History YMMV / WitchAndWizard

15th Aug '17 10:31:20 PM Nicoaln
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* SeasonalRot: Some feel that the series should have ''stayed'' as a trilogy and that the fourth and fifth books were nowhere near as good as the first three.

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* SeasonalRot: Some feel that the series should have ''stayed'' as a trilogy and that the fourth and fifth books were nowhere near as good as the first three.three.
* {{Squick}}: Invoked. The IncurableCoughOfDeath that spreads through the society targeting dissents is designed to cause this when people cough up a black ooze.
15th Aug '17 10:30:09 PM Nicoaln
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* FunnyMoments:
** When Whit and Wisty are put in a mental hospital, Wisty rationalises it as her being insane. The manga makes it even ''funnier'' by showcasing Wisty with a really ''really'' cuckoolander looking face, while Whit just stares at her like he cannot believe what she is doing.
** When Wisty tries to turn Byron into a pumpkin, she turns him into a lion instead. She says "No! I meant pumpkin!"
** Whit and Wisty are ordered to clean their cell toilet with a toothbrush. The manga shows an absolute ''pristine'' toilet room that the guard still says is filthy.
15th Aug '17 10:23:31 PM Nicoaln
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* AwesomeArt: The manga gives it a rather animeseque style that some feels really befits the series, making it seem almost like a CrapSaccharineWorld.
14th Aug '17 8:41:07 PM Anddrix
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* AdaptationDecay: Despite the rather pragmatic nature of the manga (filling in plotholes), others felt that the manga series exchanges these plothole fills for ''new'' plotholes, namely the fact that Pearce appears out of nowhere.
14th Aug '17 8:34:17 PM Nicoaln
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* CompleteMonster: [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment The One Who Is The One]] is the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName brutal dictator of the New Order]], and the [[BigBad ultimate evil in the story]]. Deciding all life was meant to cow before him after being shunned for his affinity of magic, The One established the New Order as his dictatorship, and quickly turned his new kingdom into a hellish realm for all the inhabitants. Proclaiming all forms of art, including magic, to be sinful, The One has any and all practitioners of these, along with their family members, brutally tortured and executed, with most of his victims being [[WouldHurtAChild children]]. Along with personally vaporizing dozens of children at a time to relieve boredom, subjecting hundreds of adults and children to vivisections, and interfering with the afterlife to [[AndIMustScream leave countless spirits wandering in purgatory]], The One spares no expense in quashing any rebellions against him, from bombing entire cities to unleashing terrible plagues onto the public, all of which claim more innocent victims than rebels. [[BadBoss His own minions]] faring no better, The One sadistically executes [[YouHaveFailedMe those who fail him]] [[labelnote: through such means as]] freezing them in place and leaving them to be eaten alive over numerous days by birds, turning them into inanimate objects, and exploding them from the inside. [[/labelnote]], and has no concern for them getting caught in the crossfire of his plans. As the ArchEnemy of the Allgood siblings, The One tortures and murders their friends, [[spoiler:vaporizes their parents]] in front of them, and razes their neighborhood to the ground all solely to torture them. Nearly dying after failing to kill the millions of innocents who refused his rule, The One latches onto his [[AbusiveParents abused son]], Pearce's, soul, [[TheCorrupter corrupting the already wicked teen into a sadistic monster]] that he uses to torment the Allgood siblings further. Assuming full control of Pearce, The One attempts to unleash the undead onto the world to devour all in their path, then rule over whatever is left of humanity as a god. A hypocritical [[note]]as he was willing to use magic himself and owned works of art[[/note]] psychopath who hated everything that he wasn't in full control of, The One is one of the most wicked Young Adult Novel villains to have ever been conceived.

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* AdaptationDecay: Despite the rather pragmatic nature of the manga (filling in plotholes), others felt that the manga series exchanges these plothole fills for ''new'' plotholes, namely the fact that Pearce appears out of nowhere.
* AssPull: A common criticism of the series is that many of the solutions and prophecies seem to be [[NewRulesAsThePlotDemands improvised]].
* CompleteMonster: [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment The One Who Is The One]] is the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName brutal dictator of the New Order]], and the [[BigBad ultimate evil in the story]]. Deciding all life was meant to cow before him after being shunned for his affinity of magic, The One established the New Order as his dictatorship, and quickly turned his new kingdom into a hellish realm for all the inhabitants. Proclaiming all forms of art, including magic, to be sinful, The One has any and all practitioners of these, along with their family members, brutally tortured and executed, with most of his victims being [[WouldHurtAChild children]]. Along with personally vaporizing dozens of children at a time to relieve boredom, subjecting hundreds of adults and children to vivisections, and interfering with the afterlife to [[AndIMustScream leave countless spirits wandering in purgatory]], The One spares no expense in quashing any rebellions against him, from bombing entire cities to unleashing terrible plagues onto the public, all of which claim more innocent victims than rebels. [[BadBoss His own minions]] faring no better, The One sadistically executes [[YouHaveFailedMe those who fail him]] [[labelnote: through such means as]] freezing them in place and leaving them to be eaten alive over numerous days by birds, turning them into inanimate objects, and exploding them from the inside. [[/labelnote]], and has no concern for them getting caught in the crossfire of his plans. As the ArchEnemy of the Allgood siblings, The One tortures and murders their friends, [[spoiler:vaporizes their parents]] in front of them, and razes their neighborhood to the ground all solely to torture them. Nearly dying after failing to kill the millions of innocents who refused his rule, The One latches onto his [[AbusiveParents abused son]], Pearce's, soul, [[TheCorrupter corrupting the already wicked teen into a sadistic monster]] that he uses to torment the Allgood siblings further. Assuming full control of Pearce, The One attempts to unleash the undead onto the world to devour all in their path, then rule over whatever is left of humanity as a god. A hypocritical [[note]]as he was willing to use magic himself and owned works of art[[/note]] psychopath who hated everything that he wasn't in full control of, The One is one of the most wicked Young Adult Novel villains to have ever been conceived.conceived.
* SeasonalRot: Some feel that the series should have ''stayed'' as a trilogy and that the fourth and fifth books were nowhere near as good as the first three.
23rd Oct '16 9:23:23 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment The One Who Is The One]] is the [[BigBad root of nearly every problem in the story]], and by far the most wicked villain. Growing up shunned by his peers due to his affinity for magic, The One became power-hungry and created the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName New Order]] to take power. Proclaiming all forms of art to be sinful, The One has anyone practicing any art form hunted down and exterminated. After establishing the New Order as the leading power in the world, The One has any teens or [[WouldHurtAChild children]] with the potential for magic hunted down and thrown into nightmarish prisons where they either await execution, are [[MindRape brainwashed]] into becoming members of his army, or are [[ColdBloodedTorture subjected to horrific experiments]]. The ArchEnemy of the Allgood siblings, The One goes to incredible lengths to ruin their lives, from fatally strangling the girlfriend of Whit, the older sibling, to [[spoiler:vaporizing the children's parents in front of them and razing their neighborhood to the ground]]. Attempting to eliminate Resistance fighters and sympathizers, The One has cities bombed, innocent teens burned at the stake, and later releases the Blood Plague, a virus that excruciatingly kills all it infects, in an attempt to wipe out rebels. Seeing all of his soldiers, including [[AbusiveParents his own abused son]], [[BadBoss as expendable]], The One murders them, turns them into inanimate objects, and nearly wiped out hundreds of them in an attempt to kill the Allgood siblings. After interfering with the Afterlife, leaving thousands of tortured souls [[AndIMustScream wandering Purgatory for years]], The One [[spoiler:rips out Wisty Allgood's magical Gift of Fire]], then reveals he plans to "cull" all humans who resist his rule across the planet with his new godlike powers. Psychopathic, [[StrawHypocrite hypocritical]] [[note]]as he was willing to use magic himself and owned works of art[[/note]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe megalomaniacal]], The One was willing to ruin countless lives for nothing more than to satisfy his [[AGodAmI god complex]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment The One Who Is The One]] is the [[BigBad root of nearly every problem in the story]], and by far the most wicked villain. Growing up shunned by his peers due to his affinity for magic, The One became power-hungry and created the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName brutal dictator of the New Order]] Order]], and the [[BigBad ultimate evil in the story]]. Deciding all life was meant to take power. cow before him after being shunned for his affinity of magic, The One established the New Order as his dictatorship, and quickly turned his new kingdom into a hellish realm for all the inhabitants. Proclaiming all forms of art art, including magic, to be sinful, The One has anyone practicing any art form hunted down and exterminated. After establishing the New Order as the leading power in the world, The One has any teens or all practitioners of these, along with their family members, brutally tortured and executed, with most of his victims being [[WouldHurtAChild children]] children]]. Along with personally vaporizing dozens of children at a time to relieve boredom, subjecting hundreds of adults and children to vivisections, and interfering with the potential for magic hunted down afterlife to [[AndIMustScream leave countless spirits wandering in purgatory]], The One spares no expense in quashing any rebellions against him, from bombing entire cities to unleashing terrible plagues onto the public, all of which claim more innocent victims than rebels. [[BadBoss His own minions]] faring no better, The One sadistically executes [[YouHaveFailedMe those who fail him]] [[labelnote: through such means as]] freezing them in place and thrown leaving them to be eaten alive over numerous days by birds, turning them into nightmarish prisons where they either await execution, are [[MindRape brainwashed]] into becoming members inanimate objects, and exploding them from the inside. [[/labelnote]], and has no concern for them getting caught in the crossfire of his army, or are [[ColdBloodedTorture subjected to horrific experiments]]. The plans. As the ArchEnemy of the Allgood siblings, The One goes to incredible lengths to ruin tortures and murders their lives, from fatally strangling the girlfriend of Whit, the older sibling, to [[spoiler:vaporizing the children's parents friends, [[spoiler:vaporizes their parents]] in front of them them, and razing razes their neighborhood to the ground]]. Attempting ground all solely to eliminate Resistance fighters and sympathizers, torture them. Nearly dying after failing to kill the millions of innocents who refused his rule, The One has cities bombed, innocent teens burned at the stake, and later releases the Blood Plague, a virus that excruciatingly kills all it infects, in an attempt to wipe out rebels. Seeing all of latches onto his soldiers, including [[AbusiveParents his own abused son]], [[BadBoss as expendable]], The One murders them, turns them Pearce's, soul, [[TheCorrupter corrupting the already wicked teen into inanimate objects, and nearly wiped out hundreds of them in an attempt a sadistic monster]] that he uses to kill torment the Allgood siblings. After interfering with the Afterlife, leaving thousands siblings further. Assuming full control of tortured souls [[AndIMustScream wandering Purgatory for years]], Pearce, The One [[spoiler:rips out Wisty Allgood's magical Gift of Fire]], attempts to unleash the undead onto the world to devour all in their path, then reveals he plans to "cull" all humans who resist his rule across the planet with his new godlike powers. Psychopathic, [[StrawHypocrite hypocritical]] over whatever is left of humanity as a god. A hypocritical [[note]]as he was willing to use magic himself and owned works of art[[/note]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe megalomaniacal]], psychopath who hated everything that he wasn't in full control of, The One was willing is one of the most wicked Young Adult Novel villains to ruin countless lives for nothing more than to satisfy his [[AGodAmI god complex]].have ever been conceived.
20th Mar '16 8:43:50 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment The One Who Is The One]] is the [[BigBad root of nearly every problem in the story]], and by far the most wicked villain. Growing up shunned by his peers due to his affinity for magic, The One became power-hungry and created the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName New Order]] to take power. Proclaiming all forms of art to be sinful, The One has anyone practicing any art form hunted down and exterminated. After establishing the New Order as the leading power in the world, The One has any teens or [[WouldHurtAChild children]] with the potential for magic hunted down and thrown into nightmarish prisons where they either await execution, are [[MindRape brainwashed]] into becoming members of his army, or are [[ColdBloodedTorture subjected to horrific experiments]]. The ArchEnemy of the Allgood siblings, The One goes to incredible lengths to ruin their lives, from fatally strangling the girlfriend of Whit, the older sibling, to [[spoiler:vaporizing the children's parents in front of them and razing their neighborhood to the ground]]. Attempting to eliminate Resistance fighters and sympathizers, The One has cities bombed, innocent teens burned at the stake, and later releases the Blood Plague, a virus that excruciatingly kills all it infects, in an attempt to wipe out rebels. Seeing all of his soldiers, including [[AbusiveParents his own abused son]], [[BadBoss as expendable]], The One murders them, turns them into inanimate objects, and nearly wiped out hundreds of them in an attempt to kill the Allgood siblings. After interfering with the Afterlife, leaving thousands of tortured souls [[AndIMustScream wandering Purgatory for years]], The One [[spoiler:rips out Wisty Allgood's magical Gift of Fire]], then reveals he plans to "cull" all humans who resist his rule across the planet with his new godlike powers]]. Psychopathic, [[StrawHypocrite hypocritical]]—as he was willing to use magic himself and owned works of art--and megalomaniacal, [[ItsAllAboutMe The One]] was willing to ruin countless lives for nothing more than to satisfy his [[AGodAmI god complex]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment The One Who Is The One]] is the [[BigBad root of nearly every problem in the story]], and by far the most wicked villain. Growing up shunned by his peers due to his affinity for magic, The One became power-hungry and created the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName New Order]] to take power. Proclaiming all forms of art to be sinful, The One has anyone practicing any art form hunted down and exterminated. After establishing the New Order as the leading power in the world, The One has any teens or [[WouldHurtAChild children]] with the potential for magic hunted down and thrown into nightmarish prisons where they either await execution, are [[MindRape brainwashed]] into becoming members of his army, or are [[ColdBloodedTorture subjected to horrific experiments]]. The ArchEnemy of the Allgood siblings, The One goes to incredible lengths to ruin their lives, from fatally strangling the girlfriend of Whit, the older sibling, to [[spoiler:vaporizing the children's parents in front of them and razing their neighborhood to the ground]]. Attempting to eliminate Resistance fighters and sympathizers, The One has cities bombed, innocent teens burned at the stake, and later releases the Blood Plague, a virus that excruciatingly kills all it infects, in an attempt to wipe out rebels. Seeing all of his soldiers, including [[AbusiveParents his own abused son]], [[BadBoss as expendable]], The One murders them, turns them into inanimate objects, and nearly wiped out hundreds of them in an attempt to kill the Allgood siblings. After interfering with the Afterlife, leaving thousands of tortured souls [[AndIMustScream wandering Purgatory for years]], The One [[spoiler:rips out Wisty Allgood's magical Gift of Fire]], then reveals he plans to "cull" all humans who resist his rule across the planet with his new godlike powers]]. powers. Psychopathic, [[StrawHypocrite hypocritical]]—as hypocritical]] [[note]]as he was willing to use magic himself and owned works of art--and megalomaniacal, art[[/note]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe megalomaniacal]], The One]] One was willing to ruin countless lives for nothing more than to satisfy his [[AGodAmI god complex]].
20th Mar '16 8:42:39 AM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment The One Who Is The One]] is the [[BigBad root of nearly every problem in the story]], and by far the most wicked villain. Growing up shunned by his peers due to his affinity for magic, The One became power-hungry and created the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName New Order]] to take power. Proclaiming all forms of art to be sinful, The One has anyone practicing any art form hunted down and exterminated. After establishing the New Order as the leading power in the world, The One has any teens or [[WouldHurtAChild children]] with the potential for magic hunted down and thrown into nightmarish prisons where they either await execution, are [[MindRape brainwashed]] into becoming members of his army, or are [[ColdBloodedTorture subjected to horrific experiments]]. The ArchEnemy of the Allgood siblings, The One goes to incredible lengths to ruin their lives, from fatally strangling the girlfriend of Whit, the older sibling, to [[spoiler:vaporizing the children's parents in front of them and razing their neighborhood to the ground]]. Attempting to eliminate Resistance fighters and sympathizers, The One has cities bombed, innocent teens burned at the stake, and later releases the Blood Plague, a virus that excruciatingly kills all it infects, in an attempt to wipe out rebels. Seeing all of his soldiers, including [[AbusiveParents his own abused son]], [[BadBoss as expendable]], The One murders them, turns them into inanimate objects, and nearly wiped out hundreds of them in an attempt to kill the Allgood siblings. After interfering with the Afterlife, leaving thousands of tortured souls [[AndIMustScream wandering Purgatory for years]], The One [[spoiler:rips out Wisty Allgood's magical Gift of Fire]], then reveals he plans to "cull" all humans who resist his rule across the planet with his new godlike powers]]. Psychopathic, [[StrawHypocrite hypocritical]]—as he was willing to use magic himself and owned works of art--and megalomaniacal, [[ItsAllAboutMe The One]] was willing to ruin countless lives for nothing more than to satisfy his [[AGodAmI god complex]].
27th Nov '12 5:52:05 PM TVRulezAgain
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* CompleteMonster: ''Pearce''. Dear '''GOD''', Pearce.
2nd May '12 7:59:57 PM Meta5
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*CompleteMonster: ''Pearce''. Dear '''GOD''', Pearce.
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