Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
"most people" is Weasel Words. It is also natter
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Nanoha sees the incident in Episode 3 of the original ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', in which her failing to act on a possible sighting of a Jewel Seed, resulting in damage to Uminari City, as [[MyGreatestFailure a failure]] that motivates herself to push herself as much as she can, resulting in her being a {{Workaholic}} averse to rest.
to:
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
** Nanoha sees the incident in Episode 3 of the original ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', in which her failing to act on a possible sighting of a Jewel Seed, resulting in damage to Uminari City, as [[MyGreatestFailure a failure]] that motivates herself to push herself as much as she can, resulting in her being a {{Workaholic}} averse to rest.
** Nanoha sees the incident in Episode 3 of the original ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', in which her failing to act on a possible sighting of a Jewel Seed, resulting in damage to Uminari City, as [[MyGreatestFailure a failure]] that motivates herself to push herself as much as she can, resulting in her being a {{Workaholic}} averse to rest.
Changed line(s) 5,6 (click to see context) from:
** Vivio defeating Chibi-Usa and causing her and her alternate timeline to disappear was also a controversial action, especially since it was essentially killing her. WordOfGod has clarified, however, that Picoha was the aggressor, attacking without stating her intent, and Vivio tried to defeat her non-lethally, without knowing what would happen to her.
*** However, most people in return point out that the writer did a horrible job of showing this, and the chapter itself (unrelated to the rest of the story) felt like it was created just to shit on the Sailor Moon side some more.
*** However, most people in return point out that the writer did a horrible job of showing this, and the chapter itself (unrelated to the rest of the story) felt like it was created just to shit on the Sailor Moon side some more.
to:
** Vivio defeating Chibi-Usa and causing her and her alternate timeline to disappear was also a controversial action, especially since it was essentially killing her. Furthermore, the chapter itself is unrelated to the rest of the story and felt like it was created just to shit on the Sailor Moon side some more. WordOfGod has clarified, however, clarified that Picoha was the aggressor, attacking without stating her intent, and Vivio tried to defeat her non-lethally, without knowing what would happen to her.
*** However, most people in return point out that the writer did a horrible job of showing this, and the chapter itself (unrelated to the rest of the story) felt like it was created just to shit on the Sailor Moon side some more.her.
*** However, most people in return point out that the writer did a horrible job of showing this, and the chapter itself (unrelated to the rest of the story) felt like it was created just to shit on the Sailor Moon side some more.
Changed line(s) 10,11 (click to see context) from:
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Picoha came off [[BrokenBase to most people who have seen both series]] as a girl who tried to protect her own timeline and got written out of existence in the process.
* WriterOnBoard: Bissek goes out of his way to give the Senshi the short end of the stick, using an altered canon that incorporates elements cherry-picked from both manga and anime canon with the goal of making the Senshi look as weak, useless, and morally bankrupt as possible. The whole issue with Serenity killing herself, for instance, is taken from the manga, while the Senshi themselves display abilities only on par with their heavily-nerfed anime counterparts. The villains that the Senshi struggled with for over a year are also trivially dispatched within weeks of the TSAB showing up (granted, the Senshi took out the same number of Dark Generals as the TSAB, and Nephrite only lost to Vita via a GroinAttack he didn't expect). And let's not even get started on the Picoha omake.
* WriterOnBoard: Bissek goes out of his way to give the Senshi the short end of the stick, using an altered canon that incorporates elements cherry-picked from both manga and anime canon with the goal of making the Senshi look as weak, useless, and morally bankrupt as possible. The whole issue with Serenity killing herself, for instance, is taken from the manga, while the Senshi themselves display abilities only on par with their heavily-nerfed anime counterparts. The villains that the Senshi struggled with for over a year are also trivially dispatched within weeks of the TSAB showing up (granted, the Senshi took out the same number of Dark Generals as the TSAB, and Nephrite only lost to Vita via a GroinAttack he didn't expect). And let's not even get started on the Picoha omake.
to:
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Picoha came off [[BrokenBase to most people who have seen both series]] as a girl who tried to protect her own timeline and got written out of existence in the process.
* WriterOnBoard: Bissek goes out of his way to give the Senshi the short end of the stick, using an altered canon that incorporates elements cherry-picked from both manga and anime canon with the goal of making the Senshi look as weak, useless, and morally bankrupt aspossible.possible [[note]] This diminishes after the first arc but is nonetheless present [[/note]]. The whole issue with Serenity killing herself, for instance, is taken from the manga, while the Senshi themselves display abilities only on par with their heavily-nerfed anime counterparts. The villains that the Senshi struggled with for over a year are also trivially dispatched within weeks of the TSAB showing up (granted, the Senshi took out the same number of Dark Generals as the TSAB, and Nephrite only lost to Vita via a GroinAttack he didn't expect). And let's not even get started on the Picoha omake.
* WriterOnBoard: Bissek goes out of his way to give the Senshi the short end of the stick, using an altered canon that incorporates elements cherry-picked from both manga and anime canon with the goal of making the Senshi look as weak, useless, and morally bankrupt as
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added line(s) 8 (click to see context) :
** In this series, Fate comes off as an unstable Yandere, who uses threats of the TSAB ON EARTH SOIL - forgetting that Earth is not under it's jurisdiction, all just because she's jealous of a relationship that a man had with Nanoha in a past life. The author treats this as if she's in the right.
Added line(s) 8 (click to see context) :
*** However, most people in return point out that the writer did a horrible job of showing this, and the chapter itself (unrelated to the rest of the story) felt like it was created just to shit on the Sailor Moon side some more.
Changed line(s) 8 (click to see context) from:
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Picoha came off [[BrokenBase to some]] as a girl who tried to protect her own timeline and got written out of existence in the process.
to:
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Picoha came off [[BrokenBase to some]] most people who have seen both series]] as a girl who tried to protect her own timeline and got written out of existence in the process.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 9 (click to see context) from:
* WriterOnBoard: Bissek goes out of his way to give the Senshi the short end of the stick, using an altered canon that incorporates elements cherry-picked from both manga and anime canon with the goal of making the Senshi look as weak, useless, and morally bankrupt as possible. The whole issue with Serenity killing herself, for instance, is taken from the manga, while the Senshi themselves display abilities only on par with their heavily-nerfed anime counterparts. The villains that the Senshi struggled with for over a year are also trivially dispatched within weeks of the TSAB showing up. And let's not even get started on the Picoha omake.
to:
* WriterOnBoard: Bissek goes out of his way to give the Senshi the short end of the stick, using an altered canon that incorporates elements cherry-picked from both manga and anime canon with the goal of making the Senshi look as weak, useless, and morally bankrupt as possible. The whole issue with Serenity killing herself, for instance, is taken from the manga, while the Senshi themselves display abilities only on par with their heavily-nerfed anime counterparts. The villains that the Senshi struggled with for over a year are also trivially dispatched within weeks of the TSAB showing up.up (granted, the Senshi took out the same number of Dark Generals as the TSAB, and Nephrite only lost to Vita via a GroinAttack he didn't expect). And let's not even get started on the Picoha omake.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
This is an In Universe example and should be on the main page.
Deleted line(s) 5 (click to see context) :
* CriticalResearchFailure: [[spoiler: In the final chapter, one of the [[{{Mooks}} youma]], who happens to be capable of VoluntaryShapeshifting, uses Reinforce's form to get close to Hayate and Signum. Unfortunately for her, she exposes herself by addressing them as "you two" while Signum was in a unison with Rein Zwei. Rein Zwei called her out on it, and Signum took her out.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 10 (click to see context) from:
* WriterOnBoard: Bissek goes out of his way to give the Senshi the short end of the stick, using an altered canon that incorporates elements cherry-picked from both manga and anime canon with the goal of making the Senshi look as weak, useless, and morally bankrupt as possible. The whole issue with Serenity killing herself, for instance, is taken from the manga, while the Senshi themselves display abilities only on par with their heavily-nerfed anime counterparts. The villains that the Senshi struggled with for over a year are also trivially dispatched within weeks of the TSAB showing up. And let's not even get started on [[DudeNotFunny the Picoha omake]].
to:
* WriterOnBoard: Bissek goes out of his way to give the Senshi the short end of the stick, using an altered canon that incorporates elements cherry-picked from both manga and anime canon with the goal of making the Senshi look as weak, useless, and morally bankrupt as possible. The whole issue with Serenity killing herself, for instance, is taken from the manga, while the Senshi themselves display abilities only on par with their heavily-nerfed anime counterparts. The villains that the Senshi struggled with for over a year are also trivially dispatched within weeks of the TSAB showing up. And let's not even get started on [[DudeNotFunny the Picoha omake]].omake.
----
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 9 (click to see context) from:
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Picoha came off [[BrokenBase to some]] as a girl who tried to protect her own timeline and got written out of existence in the process.
to:
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Picoha came off [[BrokenBase to some]] as a girl who tried to protect her own timeline and got written out of existence in the process.process.
* WriterOnBoard: Bissek goes out of his way to give the Senshi the short end of the stick, using an altered canon that incorporates elements cherry-picked from both manga and anime canon with the goal of making the Senshi look as weak, useless, and morally bankrupt as possible. The whole issue with Serenity killing herself, for instance, is taken from the manga, while the Senshi themselves display abilities only on par with their heavily-nerfed anime counterparts. The villains that the Senshi struggled with for over a year are also trivially dispatched within weeks of the TSAB showing up. And let's not even get started on [[DudeNotFunny the Picoha omake]].
* WriterOnBoard: Bissek goes out of his way to give the Senshi the short end of the stick, using an altered canon that incorporates elements cherry-picked from both manga and anime canon with the goal of making the Senshi look as weak, useless, and morally bankrupt as possible. The whole issue with Serenity killing herself, for instance, is taken from the manga, while the Senshi themselves display abilities only on par with their heavily-nerfed anime counterparts. The villains that the Senshi struggled with for over a year are also trivially dispatched within weeks of the TSAB showing up. And let's not even get started on [[DudeNotFunny the Picoha omake]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 8 (click to see context) from:
* StrawmanHasAPoint: At one point, Luna is stated to be far more sympathetic to Serenity committing suicide at the end of the Moon Kingdom, which rendered the sacrifices of Kamen and Mina pointless. While this is meant to show that Luna is out of touch with reality (and for the most part she is), the point she raises is perfectly correct: Nanoha had been a member of the TSAB and was trained to not sacrifice herself pointlessly, had known ''years'' of battles against the forces of evil, and held herself to such high standards that she literally worked herself into the hospital, and is judging a girl raised in a completely different environment with a completely different set of priorities up until that point by said standards, which aren't exactly fair to Serenity.
to:
* StrawmanHasAPoint: At one point, Luna is stated to be far more sympathetic to Serenity committing suicide at the end of the Moon Kingdom, which rendered the sacrifices of Kamen and Mina pointless. While this is meant to show that Luna is out of touch with reality (and for the most part she is), the point she raises is perfectly correct: Nanoha had been a member of the TSAB and was trained to not sacrifice herself pointlessly, had known ''years'' of battles against the forces of evil, and held herself to such high standards that she literally worked herself into the hospital, and is judging a girl raised in a completely different environment with a completely different set of priorities up until that point by said standards, which aren't exactly fair to Serenity.Serenity, a girl with no experience of how evil and cruel the world could be who just watched everything she had ever known and loved get murdered violently by eldritch abominations.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* StrawmanHasAPoint: At one point, Luna is stated to be far more sympathetic to Serenity committing suicide at the end of the Moon Kingdom, which rendered the sacrifices of Kamen and Mina pointless. While this is meant to show that Luna is out of touch with reality (and for the most part she is), the point she raises is perfectly correct: Nanoha had been a member of the TSAB and was trained to not sacrifice herself pointlessly, had known ''years'' of battles against the forces of evil, and held herself to such high standards that she literally worked herself into the hospital, and is judging a girl raised in a completely different environment with a completely different set of priorities up until that point by said standards, which aren't exactly fair to Serenity.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* PlotInducedStupidity: A lot of the early plot revolves around Fate and the Sailor Moon cast coming to the worst conclusions possible and being utterly unwilling to talk to each other clearly.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* CriticalResearchFailure: [[spoiler: In the final chapter, one of the [[{{Mooks}} youma]], who happens to be capable of VoluntaryShapeshifting, uses Reinforce's form to get close to Hayate and Signum. Unfortunately for her, she exposes herself by addressing them as "you two" while Signum was in a unison with Rein Zwei. Rein Zwei called her out on it, and Signum took her out.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
This isn\'t actually YMMV. Moving.
Changed line(s) 6,10 (click to see context) from:
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Picoha came off [[BrokenBase to some]] as a girl who tried to protect her own timeline and got written out of existence in the process.
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of {{Conflict Ball}}s to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role, and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of Mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
** Definitely a YMMV topic. Much like PowerCreepPowerSeep fans of one show will tend to feel that their show's characters are being maligned while the other show's characters are being [[MarySue Mary Sue'd]].
** Power is rarely the issue (I kind of agree with how the power stands up). It's usually ''plot elements'' that, when the two series are compared, the situation is usually resolved very quickly (often [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot to the detriment of any possible dramatic or emotional tension]]), and overwhelmingly in favor of Nanoha's series.
** One blatant example in the final chapter: what happened to the DD Girls, the ones who in the Sailor Moon anime [[spoiler:killed all the Inner Senshi]]? All but one died because [[spoiler:they just happened to be in the path of Nanoha's first Divine Buster (Nanoha was trying a DungeonBypass)]].
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of {{Conflict Ball}}s to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role, and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of Mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
** Definitely a YMMV topic. Much like PowerCreepPowerSeep fans of one show will tend to feel that their show's characters are being maligned while the other show's characters are being [[MarySue Mary Sue'd]].
** Power is rarely the issue (I kind of agree with how the power stands up). It's usually ''plot elements'' that, when the two series are compared, the situation is usually resolved very quickly (often [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot to the detriment of any possible dramatic or emotional tension]]), and overwhelmingly in favor of Nanoha's series.
** One blatant example in the final chapter: what happened to the DD Girls, the ones who in the Sailor Moon anime [[spoiler:killed all the Inner Senshi]]? All but one died because [[spoiler:they just happened to be in the path of Nanoha's first Divine Buster (Nanoha was trying a DungeonBypass)]].
to:
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Picoha came off [[BrokenBase to some]] as a girl who tried to protect her own timeline and got written out of existence in the process.
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of {{Conflict Ball}}s to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role, and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of Mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
** Definitely a YMMV topic. Much like PowerCreepPowerSeep fans of one show will tend to feel that their show's characters are being maligned while the other show's characters are being [[MarySue Mary Sue'd]].
** Power is rarely the issue (I kind of agree with how the power stands up). It's usually ''plot elements'' that, when the two series are compared, the situation is usually resolved very quickly (often [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot to the detriment of any possible dramatic or emotional tension]]), and overwhelmingly in favor of Nanoha's series.
** One blatant example in the final chapter: what happened to the DD Girls, the ones who in the Sailor Moon anime [[spoiler:killed all the Inner Senshi]]? All but one died because [[spoiler:they just happened to be in the path of Nanoha's first Divine Buster (Nanoha was trying a DungeonBypass)]].process.
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of {{Conflict Ball}}s to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role, and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of Mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
** Definitely a YMMV topic. Much like PowerCreepPowerSeep fans of one show will tend to feel that their show's characters are being maligned while the other show's characters are being [[MarySue Mary Sue'd]].
** Power is rarely the issue (I kind of agree with how the power stands up). It's usually ''plot elements'' that, when the two series are compared, the situation is usually resolved very quickly (often [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot to the detriment of any possible dramatic or emotional tension]]), and overwhelmingly in favor of Nanoha's series.
** One blatant example in the final chapter: what happened to the DD Girls, the ones who in the Sailor Moon anime [[spoiler:killed all the Inner Senshi]]? All but one died because [[spoiler:they just happened to be in the path of Nanoha's first Divine Buster (Nanoha was trying a DungeonBypass)]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
* MoralEventHorizon: Precia crosses this in Fate's eyes when she [[spoiler:attacks Alicia for refusing to stand aside and let her continue to torture Fate]].
to:
* MoralEventHorizon: Precia crosses this in Fate's even [[LoveMartyr Fate]]'s eyes when she [[spoiler:attacks Alicia for refusing to stand aside and let her continue to torture Fate]].Fate]].
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Picoha came off [[BrokenBase to some]] as a girl who tried to protect her own timeline and got written out of existence in the process.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: Picoha came off [[BrokenBase to some]] as a girl who tried to protect her own timeline and got written out of existence in the process.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 8 (click to see context) from:
*** Power is rarely the issue (I kind of agree with how the power stands up). It's usually ''plot elements'' that, when the two series are compared, the situation is usually resolved very quickly (often [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot to the detriment of any possible dramatic or emotional tension]]), and overwhelmingly in favor of Nanoha's series.
to:
** One blatant example in the final chapter: what happened to the DD Girls, the ones who in the Sailor Moon anime [[spoiler:killed all the Inner Senshi]]? All but one died because [[spoiler:they just happened to be in the path of Nanoha's first Divine Buster (Nanoha was trying a DungeonBypass)]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3 (click to see context) from:
** Was Nanoha justified in harshly calling the Queen out on how she raised Serenity? Additionally, was this in character for Nanoha, who is more responsible than Usagi or Serenity, or was this contrary to someone who would "befriend" her enemies?
to:
** Was Nanoha justified in harshly calling the Queen out on how she raised Serenity? Additionally, was this in character for Nanoha, who is more responsible than Usagi or Serenity, or was this contrary to someone who would "befriend" her enemies?enemies? Or was Nanoha pushed too far with memories of her past life returning and called her out due to a DespairEventHorizon?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 8 (click to see context) from:
*** Power is rarely the issue (I kind of agree with how the power stands up). It's usually ''plot elements'' that, when the two series' are compared, the situation is usually resolved very quickly (often [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot to the detriment of any possible dramatic or emotional tension]]), and overwhelmingly in favor of Nanoha's series.
to:
*** Power is rarely the issue (I kind of agree with how the power stands up). It's usually ''plot elements'' that, when the two series' series are compared, the situation is usually resolved very quickly (often [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot to the detriment of any possible dramatic or emotional tension]]), and overwhelmingly in favor of Nanoha's series.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* BrokenBase: Two in Chapter 10, surprisingly ''not'' over [[spoiler:Nanoha and Fate becoming the OfficialCouple]]
**Was Nanoha justified in harshly calling the Queen out on how she raised Serenity? Additionally, was this in character for Nanoha, who is more responsible than Usagi or Serenity, or was this contrary to someone who would "befriend" her enemies?
**Vivio defeating Chibi-Usa and causing her and her alternate timeline to disappear was also a controversial action, especially since it was essentially killing her. WordOfGod has clarified, however, that Picoha was the aggressor, attacking without stating her intent, and Vivio tried to defeat her non-lethally, without knowing what would happen to her.
**Was Nanoha justified in harshly calling the Queen out on how she raised Serenity? Additionally, was this in character for Nanoha, who is more responsible than Usagi or Serenity, or was this contrary to someone who would "befriend" her enemies?
**Vivio defeating Chibi-Usa and causing her and her alternate timeline to disappear was also a controversial action, especially since it was essentially killing her. WordOfGod has clarified, however, that Picoha was the aggressor, attacking without stating her intent, and Vivio tried to defeat her non-lethally, without knowing what would happen to her.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Nanoha sees the incident in Episode 3 of the original MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha, in which her failing to act on a possible sighting of a Jewel Seed, resulting in damage to Uminari City, as [[MyGreatestFailure a failure]] that motivates herself to push herself as much as she can, resulting in her being a {{Workaholic}} averse to rest.
to:
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Nanoha sees the incident in Episode 3 of the original MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha, ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha'', in which her failing to act on a possible sighting of a Jewel Seed, resulting in damage to Uminari City, as [[MyGreatestFailure a failure]] that motivates herself to push herself as much as she can, resulting in her being a {{Workaholic}} averse to rest.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Nanoha sees the incident in Episode 3 of the original MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha, in which her failing to act on a possible sighting of a Jewel Seed, resulting in damage to Uminari City, as [[MyGreatestFailure a failure]] that motivates herself to push herself as much as she can, resulting in her being a {{Workaholic}} averse to rest.
Deleted line(s) 2,3 (click to see context) :
* NamesTheSame: Ami Mizuno and Amy Limietta
** It should be noted that the names Ami and Amy are not pronounced in the same way at all (Ami being pronounced very much like the French word for friend. e.g. "Mon ami.") and that confusing the two would have been unlikely to say the least.
** It should be noted that the names Ami and Amy are not pronounced in the same way at all (Ami being pronounced very much like the French word for friend. e.g. "Mon ami.") and that confusing the two would have been unlikely to say the least.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 6 (click to see context) from:
*** Power is rarely the issue. It's usually ''plot elements'' that, when the two series' are compared, the situation is usually resolved very quickly (often [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot to the detriment of any possible dramatic or emotional tension]]), and overwhelmingly in favor of Nanoha's series.
to:
*** Power is rarely the issue.issue (I kind of agree with how the power stands up). It's usually ''plot elements'' that, when the two series' are compared, the situation is usually resolved very quickly (often [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot to the detriment of any possible dramatic or emotional tension]]), and overwhelmingly in favor of Nanoha's series.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 5 (click to see context) from:
** Definitely a YMMV topic. Much like PowerCreepPowerSeep fans of one show will tend to feel that their show's characters are being maligned while the other show's characters are being [[MarySue Mary Sue'd]].
to:
** Definitely a YMMV topic. Much like PowerCreepPowerSeep fans of one show will tend to feel that their show's characters are being maligned while the other show's characters are being [[MarySue Mary Sue'd]].Sue'd]].
*** Power is rarely the issue. It's usually ''plot elements'' that, when the two series' are compared, the situation is usually resolved very quickly (often [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot to the detriment of any possible dramatic or emotional tension]]), and overwhelmingly in favor of Nanoha's series.
*** Power is rarely the issue. It's usually ''plot elements'' that, when the two series' are compared, the situation is usually resolved very quickly (often [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot to the detriment of any possible dramatic or emotional tension]]), and overwhelmingly in favor of Nanoha's series.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* NamesTheSame: Ami Mizuno and the Amy [[spoiler: who won the "When will Nanoha and Fate Confess?" betting pool.]]
to:
* NamesTheSame: Ami Mizuno and the Amy [[spoiler: who won the "When will Nanoha and Fate Confess?" betting pool.]]Limietta
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role, and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of Mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
to:
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls {{Conflict Ball}}s to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role, and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of Mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role, and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of Mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
to:
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role, and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of Mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.fic.
** Definitely a YMMV topic. Much like PowerCreepPowerSeep fans of one show will tend to feel that their show's characters are being maligned while the other show's characters are being [[MarySue Mary Sue'd]].
** Definitely a YMMV topic. Much like PowerCreepPowerSeep fans of one show will tend to feel that their show's characters are being maligned while the other show's characters are being [[MarySue Mary Sue'd]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3 (click to see context) from:
** It should be noted that the names Ami and Amy are not pronounced in the same way at all (Ami being pronounced very much like the French word for friend. e.g. "Mon ami.") and that confusing the two would have been unlikely to say the least.
to:
** It should be noted that the names Ami and Amy are not pronounced in the same way at all (Ami being pronounced very much like the French word for friend. e.g. "Mon ami.") and that confusing the two would have been unlikely to say the least.least.
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role, and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of Mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role, and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of Mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Writer On Board is not a YMMV trope.
Changed line(s) 3,5 (click to see context) from:
** It should be noted that the names Ami and Amy are not pronounced in the same way at all (Ami being pronounced very much like the French word for friend. e.g. "Mon ami.") and that confusing the two would have been unlikely to say the least.
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
** Definitely a YMMV topic. Much like PowerCreepPowerSeep fans of one show will tend to feel that their show's characters are being maligned while the other show's characters are being [[MarySue Mary Sue'd]].
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
** Definitely a YMMV topic. Much like PowerCreepPowerSeep fans of one show will tend to feel that their show's characters are being maligned while the other show's characters are being [[MarySue Mary Sue'd]].
to:
** It should be noted that the names Ami and Amy are not pronounced in the same way at all (Ami being pronounced very much like the French word for friend. e.g. "Mon ami.") and that confusing the two would have been unlikely to say the least.
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
** Definitely a YMMV topic. Much like PowerCreepPowerSeep fans of one show will tend to feel that their show's characters are being maligned while the other show's characters are being [[MarySue Mary Sue'd]].least.
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
** Definitely a YMMV topic. Much like PowerCreepPowerSeep fans of one show will tend to feel that their show's characters are being maligned while the other show's characters are being [[MarySue Mary Sue'd]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3 (click to see context) from:
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: [[Flanderization Luna]]). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
to:
** It should be noted that the names Ami and Amy are not pronounced in the same way at all (Ami being pronounced very much like the French word for friend. e.g. "Mon ami.") and that confusing the two would have been unlikely to say the least.
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE:[[Flanderization Luna]]). Luna). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.fic.
** Definitely a YMMV topic. Much like PowerCreepPowerSeep fans of one show will tend to feel that their show's characters are being maligned while the other show's characters are being [[MarySue Mary Sue'd]].
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE:
** Definitely a YMMV topic. Much like PowerCreepPowerSeep fans of one show will tend to feel that their show's characters are being maligned while the other show's characters are being [[MarySue Mary Sue'd]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* NamesTheSame: Ami Mizuno and the Amy [[spoiler: who won the "When will Nanoha and Fate Confess?" betting pool.]]
to:
* NamesTheSame: Ami Mizuno and the Amy [[spoiler: who won the "When will Nanoha and Fate Confess?" betting pool.]]]]
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: [[Flanderization Luna]]). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
* WriterOnBoard: Between Chibi-Usa bashing, liberal use of ConflictBalls to force the Senshi into a HeroAntagonist role and a massively one-sided LoveTriangle among many other such signs, the author ''very obviously'' favors the Nanoha characters over the Senshi, who are portrayed as massively incompetent and wrong about ''everything'' even when they're ''not'' hideously out of character (RE: [[Flanderization Luna]]). He gives them occasional lipservice in his authors notes, but in-fic the Senshi behave and perform like a squad of mooks and struggle to take out a single [[MechaMook drone]] that mages of their rank should be able to slaughter by the dozens early in the fic.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Moral Event Horizon example
Added DiffLines:
* MoralEventHorizon: Precia crosses this in Fate's eyes when she [[spoiler:attacks Alicia for refusing to stand aside and let her continue to torture Fate]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* NamesTheSame: Ami Mizuno and the Amy [[spoiler: that won the "When will Nanoha and Fate Confess?" betting pool.]]
to:
* NamesTheSame: Ami Mizuno and the Amy [[spoiler: that who won the "When will Nanoha and Fate Confess?" betting pool.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* NamesTheSame: Ami Mizuno and the Amy [[spoiler: that set up the "When will Nanoha and Fate Confess?" betting pool.]]
to:
* NamesTheSame: Ami Mizuno and the Amy [[spoiler: that set up won the "When will Nanoha and Fate Confess?" betting pool.]]