History YMMV / UltimateXMen2001

* DiagnosedByTheAudience: The traumatic experiences in Rogue's life have driven her more than a bit mad and it's shown from time to time that she's teetering on the edge of complete insanity.

** Despite of their changes, Xavier and Magneto have the mainstream attitudes towards the relation between humans and mutants: Xavier proposes pacific coexistence, Magneto proposes mutant supremacy. And then it turns out that, unlike the prime earth, Mutants are not the next step of evolution, but people who got powers because of another attempt at recreating Cap's super-soldier serum. However, we never find out how Xavier or Magneto would have reacted to this. Xavier died before knowing about it, and Magneto was killed before he could get past the initial shock.

* StrawmanHasAPoint: Sure, Magneto may be an evil terrorist leader with no redeeming qualities, but some things he say make a lot of sense. "Man is alone among the animals when it comes to taking pleasure in the suffering of others". "This world is more than five billion years old, and yet, in just two hundred years, homo sapiens has created an environment which will only sustain us for another few decades. They invented war. They wrote manuals on torture".

* AuthorsSavingThrow
** The reveal in ''Ultimate Comics X-Men'' that no, Wanda is not alive, but is a hallucination pushing Pietro to commit his heinous deeds. While it does mean Wanda was still killed off for drama, it does at least explain how she supposedly "got better" from ''dying'' and apparently turned evil at the same time.
** The first issue started with Sentinels hunting and killing mutant in the streets, which established the series' tone: the stakes against mutants in general and the X-Men in particular are ''really'' high. Still, Xavier managed to make the government turn off the Sentinel initiative, and things got to a status somewhat similar to that of the mainstream series. ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'' made things awful for Ultimate mutants again, and that status remained to the end.

* ValuesDissonance: While it started as an attempt to update the X-Men for the 2000s, some of it had aged rather badly, namely, ''how'' the series depicted Wolverine as a "bad boy": by having a preference for teenaged girls, making him come across as a sexual predator in the [=#MeToo=] and "Time's Up" era. Granted, while Jean was of legal age when they slept together, he also tried to pull MurderTheHypotenuse on Cyclops after Jean stated he was with Scott. The FreakyFridayFlip in ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'' started because Logan still wouldn't take the hint Jean wasn't into him and tried to do something with Mary Jane, who (unlike Jean) ''wasn't'' of legal age during the whole affair and in the lead-up to ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'', he similarly tried to hit on MJ's classmate Liz Allan -- who, like MJ, was herself underaged. This "update" ended up aging very poorly compared to the original Wolverine.

* ValuesDissonance: While it started as an attempt to update the X-Men for the 2000s, some of it had aged rather badly, namely, ''how'' the series depicted Wolverine as a "bad boy": by having a preference for teenaged girls, making him come across as a sexual predator in the [=#MeToo=] and "Time's Up" era. Granted, while Jean was of legal age when they slept together, he also tried to pull MurderTheHypotenuse on Cyclops after Jean started he was with Scott. The FreakyFridayFlip in ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'' started because Logan still wouldn't take the hint Jean wasn't into him and tried to do something with Mary Jane, who (unlike Jean) ''wasn't'' of legal age during the whole affair and in the lead-up to ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'', he similarly tried to hit on MJ's classmate Liz Allan -- who, like MJ, was herself underaged. This "update" ended up aging very poorly compared to the original Wolverine.

* WhatAnIdiot
** Upon finding out that Magician was tapering with the X-Men's minds, Xavier confronts him about it and asks to talk. Magician is also willing to talk things through.\\
'''You'd Expect''': The X-Men cooperate, listen to Magician's story, then decide what to do with him after hearing all the facts.\\
'''Instead''': Cyclops immediately accuses him of being a traitor, and all the X-Men sans Xavier attack with the intent to kill, despite the fact that Magician is pleading for them not to.
** The US government discovers the location of the Savage Land, Magneto's hidden base. \\
'''You'd expect''': That they NukeEm before they realize what is going on, and good riddance. \\
'''Instead''': They send an army of Sentinels, who can also destroy the whole village... in due time. Time that Magneto uses to take control of them, and turn them to his own side.
** In ''Ultimate X'' issue 3, Derek Morgan grabs his brother, a cop, who hates mutants, so he can talk to him about the "being a mutant" thing.\\
'''You'd expect:''' Given they are in mid-air, that Derek's brother would do anything, literally ''anything'' other than what he does.\\
'''Instead:''' First he tells his kid brother he's going to arrest him just for being a mutant, and then points a gun at the guy ''keeping them in the air''. And then he fires it, leading them to plummet to the ground. If it weren't for SoftWater, both of them would have been pancakes.

** Add to that the death of the warden of Camp Angle. The man honestly tried to bring about unity between mutants and humans. He put a stop to his subordinate’s torturous acts. He worked with the cooperating mutates to reach a common goal only to be the first one killed after the above mentioned revelation. It should be mentioned however that The Warden ''ran a concentration camp'' complete with mutant experimentation. While he may have had good intentions, he was in no way free from any wrongdoing.

** The reveal in ''Ultimate Comics X-Men'' that no, Wanda is not alive, but is a hallucination pushing Pietro to commit his heinous deeds. While it does mean Wanda was still StuffedIntoTheFridge, it does at least explain how she supposedly "got better" from ''dying'' and apparently turned evil at the same time.

** The series ''begins'' with government-sponsored Sentinels murdering innocent people on the streets, then claiming they were mutant "terrorists". When was this issue released? February ''2001''. And the first story arc ends with Magneto, the absolutely evil leader of a terrorist anti-human group, unleashing sentinels in Washington DC, causing an untold number of deaths and destruction, laying waste to the White House and having the president George Bush (yes, the comics referenced him by name) naked and helpless before him while he delivers his NewEraSpeech. Ultimate X-Men #5, ''July 2001''.
** Kirkman's run ends with the Phoenix pulling off a big damn ResetButton, as a way of giving everyone a second chance. And then in less than a year, ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'' happens, killing off pretty much all of the X-Men. Even some of the characters in ''Ultimate Comics X-Men'' point this out.
** When Magneto returned, Nick Fury started setting up defenses in the White House. "The White House is gonna be a virtual fortress by the time I'm finished with it. Absolutely secure against both post-human and nuclear attack". And it did work... until the Maker blown up all of Washington DC.

* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy:
** The first of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel books to hit the [[CrapsackWorld GrimDark]] wall (more so than the also Millar-written ''Comicbook/TheUltimates'', which at least had a cynical edge to its humor), particularly during the "Weapon X" story arc. That, however, could be chalked up to a minor CreatorBreakdown on the part of Creator/MarkMillar - he was stuck in the hospital with chronic pain due to a debilitating illness at the time of writing. He later [[WordOfGod admitted in an interview]] that he was projecting much of the misery he was feeling onto the characters.
** Most of the stuff leading up to, and following, from ''Ultimatum'' suffers from this. The heroes are pricks, the villains are ''worse'', and the world is a crapsack one.

* HilariousInHindsight: In issue #87 the Fenris brothers mention their plans with the "[[ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel All New, All Different]]" sentinels.

* HilariousInHindsight
** In issue #87 the Fenris brothers mention their plans with the "[[ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel All New, All Different]]" sentinels.
** Issue #12 concludes the "Return to Weapon X" arc. The name of the episode? "[[Film/AvengersEndgame Endgame]]"
** Sabertooth boasts to Wolverine that he had killed his wife and son. It later turns out that Ultimate Wolverine ''does'' have a son, ComicBook/JimmyHudson.

* CriticalResearchFailure: The US federal legislature passes a law which makes it illegal to be a mutant, the penalty being summary execution. This is called a bill of attainder, twice forbidden by the US federal constitution and further forbidden by every single state constitution. And that's not even touching the other problems such a bill would face just to get to the point of being voted on.

* JerkassHasAPoint: The X-Men are a bit more abrasive in this continuity but this is because, unlike 616, they're nowhere near as numerous and are one bad day away from being the victims of a government sponsored genocide. Something which finally comes to pass after ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}''.

* NotHisSled: Beast was treated with an experimental procedure. It has not been tested in humans yet, but it gave good results in apes, except for a pair that turned blue. If you were expecting this to kickstart Beast's blue mutation, keep waiting, it just [[YouGottaHaveBlueHair made his head hair blue]]

* CompleteMonster: See [[Monster/XMen here]].

* CompleteMonster: See [[Monster/MarvelComics here]].

** Sabertooth boasts to Wolverine that he had killed his wife and son. It later turns out that Ultimate Wolverine ''does'' have a son, Jimmy Hudson.

%% TheWoobie: Colossus.

* JerkassHasAPoint: The X-Men are a bit more abrasive in this continuity but this is because, unlike 616, they're nowhere near as numerous and are one bad day away from being the victims of a government sponsored genocide. Something which finally comes to pass after ''Ultimatum''.

* JerkassHasAPoint: The X-Men are a bit more abrasive in this continuity but this is because, unlike 616, they're nowhere near as numerous and are one bad day away from being the victims of a government sponsored genocide. Something which finally comes to pass after ''ComicBook/Ultimatum''.

** Add to that the death of the warden of Camp Angle. The man honestly tried to bring about unity between mutants and humans. He put a stop to his subordinate’s torturous acts. He worked with the cooperating mutates to reach a common goal only to be the first one killed after the above mentioned revelation.
*** It should be mentioned however that The Warden ''ran a concentration camp'' complete with mutant experimentation. While he may have had good intentions, he was in no way free from any wrongdoing.