History YMMV / TwitchPlaysPokemonCrystal

* TheScrappy: By Day 4, the stream had lost tens of thousands of viewers over what it usually had during the first generation, to the point even some of the live updaters were losing interest and not updating any longer. Some people on {{Website/Reddit}} and Website/FourChan blamed Lazorgator for being overleveled and hogging all the experience from the other team members, thus making the game too easy.

** Morty's Gym is a nightmare to the Mob. First of all, the Gym itself contains an invisible narrow pathway with turns on it, making it impossible to navigate in Anarchy. Second is the fact that he uses Ghost-type Pokémon, which has proven time and time again to be really hard to deal with. Thirdly, a Gengar with Curse, Hypnosis and Dream Eater who can stone-wall ANYTHING AJ can throw at him. In fact, Ecruteak Gym has earned its own nickname: "[[JustForPun The Elite Floor]]".

* EsotericHappyEnding: Hooray! The gods are dead! The kings are dethroned! AJ and his team can make their own destiny! But Red, a 14 year old kid, is still stuck on Mt. Silver amidst hostile wild Pokemon, assuming his disappearance after the battle means he didn't die too. He watched his friends die for something they couldn't control. And despite being kidnapped and boxed, according to Mania, [[StockholmSyndrome Shuckie doesn't seem to want to leave the team.]] ...Yay?

* TrueArtIsAngsty: A growing subset of viewers want to release Feraligatr and some other random team members, because the stream is supposedly boring without epic massacres and tragic deaths. [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor As Prince Omelette was released in a following "Gator War", they may have gotten their wish.]]
** Could apply to the meta-story as well. The stream started to become more popular once the LighterAndSofter beginning was dropped for the RageAgainstTheHeavens storyline.

** Eevee / Espeon is often thought of as female by many in the Mob, despite being male. Part of it is him being TheChick of the team.

** Karen has Gengar, made even worse as it has [[TakingYouWithMe Destiny Bond]] along with Curse. In general, more StatusEffects moves and better AI have made this Elite Four harder than before.

* GrowingTheBeard: Following the release of Lord Omlette, the story began to gradually shift away from trying to re-capture the magic from LetsPlay/TwitchPlaysPokemonRed and began to solidify its RageAgainstTheHeavens identity.

** So, the version of Pokemon Crystal being played is a hack that (among other changes) adds in all (at the time) 251 Pokemon. And on top of ''that'', Red's team from [[LetsPlay/TwitchPlaysPokemonRed the first playthrough]] was hacked in. In other words, [[WebVideo/JonTron we played a Pokemon double-hack]].

** Compared to the storyline of this LP, ''LetsPlay/TwitchPlaysPokemonEmerald'' is going to have an even bigger case of this.

** Mt. Silver. Not only does it have a quite high encounter rate, making it difficult to keep the team healthy before they go up against [[TrueFinalBoss Red]], but the first room is also [[UpToEleven PITCH BLACK]] unless Flash is used, which is difficult to activate in itself.

* EsotericHappyEnding: Hooray! The gods are dead! The kings are dethroned! AJ and his team can make their own destiny! [[AdultFear But Red, a 14 year old kid, is still stuck on Mt. Silver amidst hostile wild Pokemon]], assuming his disappearance after the battle means he didn't die too. He watched his friends die for something they couldn't control. And despite being kidnapped and boxed, according to Mania, [[StockholmSyndrome Shuckie doesn't seem to want to leave the team.]] ...Yay?

* [[RecycledInSpace Recycled in Johto]]: Many of the memes associated with Crystal are rehashes of memes from the first series, eg, the Togepi Egg being the new Helix Fossil, the new Pidgey being related to Bird Jesus, GUYS WE NEED TO BEAT MISTY becoming GUYS WE NEED TO MILK WADE and so on.
** Fortunately, as the run of Crystal wore on, it began to [[GrowingTheBeard grow its own beard]] and start to distinguish itself from [[LetsPlay/TwitchPlaysPokemonRed its predecessor.]] Interestingly, the fact that so many people kept trying to turn it into a rehash of TPP Red actually became a major theme in the lore, as the cast (including the aforementioned Pidgey) suffered identity crises due to being forced into the shadows of the TPP Red cast. One of the biggest shifts in the lore (and a big part of what helped Crystal set itself apart and become independent) occurred when the characters finally decide to seize their own destinies and make their own legends. Currently, some memes ''are'' still being recycled, but for the most part Crystal is now much more original.

** The [[{{Anime/Pokemon}} anime]] at one point featured a Youngster character named [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/AJ AJ.]]

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AJ is either a fight-happy child tortured by the voices with a goal of merely defeating Red or an embittered individual deciding to [[KillTheGod Kill The Gods]] of the previous stream and their leader. And [[http://alexisroyce.deviantart.com/art/TPP-Crystal-440353396 some even interpret him]] as ''liking'' being possessed.
** Red, on the other hand, is thought to either be saving AJ from control of the Mob by [[BeatTheCurseOutOfHim beating the voices out of him]] or to have finally gone off the deep end and kill anyone remotely associated with the voices.

*** Some have even applied it to the ReasonableAuthorityFigure Admin themselves, stating that they aren't as reasonable as they might seem.

** Morty for the same reasons as Silver but UpToEleven with the ghosts.

** Karen has Gengar, made even worse as it has [[TakingYouWithMe Destiny Bond]] along with Curse. In general, more StandardStatusEffects moves and better AI have made this Elite Four harder than before.

* FoeYay: Already there are fanworks springing up about AJ/Red.

** Fortunately, as the run of Crystal wore on, it began to [[GrowingTheBeard grow its own beard]] and start to distinguish itself from [[TwitchPlaysPokemonRed its predecessor.]] Interestingly, the fact that so many people kept trying to turn it into a rehash of TPP Red actually became a major theme in the lore, as the cast (including the aforementioned Pidgey) suffered identity crises due to being forced into the shadows of the TPP Red cast. One of the biggest shifts in the lore (and a big part of what helped Crystal set itself apart and become independent) occurred when the characters finally decide to seize their own destinies and make their own legends. Currently, some memes ''are'' still being recycled, but for the most part Crystal is now much more original.

* BaseBreaker: The change to the Anarchy/Democracy system. Democracy is initiated every hour, and Anarchy can be restored for another hour just by having it as the top-voted input. Good or bad, though, the change was inevitable; by the end of the previous stream, constant anarchy/democracy voting was overloading the chat more than anything else.
** Lord Helix and the other characters from the previous game themselves. One side is trying to force similar characters into this game, whilst the other side just wants to move on and introduce new characters. You can imagine the outrage when the former caught a Pidgey and declared it the second coming of Bird Jesus...
** The fact that the game has encountered wild Cyndaquil has caused some of the users to lose total interest in playing because the game is a Rom hack... well, further beyond what is necessary to simply play the game in this format, that is.

** King Leer the Lazorgator. One side loves having a crocodile that shoots lasers from its eyes; the other side believes that he has become overpowered and makes the game [[InvincibleHero boring]] as a result. They point to the moment in ''Twitch Plays Pokemon Red'' when Red lost his starter as the moment when the game started to become interesting. And on yet another side, there are those who love Lazorgator just fine but believe that relying on a single mon to win would come to bite them in the butt, which showed when they fought the Elite Four.

** There is also a noticeable divide in lore interpretations between those who want to interpret Lord Helix as still being the BigGood and the events of this game as a BatmanGambit by the gods of the previous instalment, and those who prefer the darker, more mortal-centred "No gods or kings only 'mon" version.
* BrokenBase: The tensions over Lazorgator boiled over during the Night of the 3rd Day, resulting in a spectacular shattering of the fanbase, a nearly hour-long war over the PC, and debate spilling into Reddit, 4Chan, and other chats dedicated to the stream. The stream's gotten 2 badges since this, but still spends hours in Pokemon Centers arguing over the fate of Lasor Gator.
** The 7 day timer caused a case of this, as some players wanted to deliberately delay progress so Red could win.

** The Anarchy vs Democracy fight has even spilled into the FanDumb section of this very page, with either side accusing the other of being afflicted with the trope.

** There is also a noticeable divide in lore interpretations between those who want to interpret Lord Helix as still being the BigGood and the events of this game as a BatmanGambit by the gods of the previous instalment, and those who prefer the darker, more mortal-centred "No gods or kings only 'mon" version where Lord Helix is the BiggerBad.

* TheScrappy: By Day 4, the stream had lost tens of thousands of viewers over what it usually had during the first generation, to the point even some of the live updaters were losing interest and not updating any longer. Some people on {{Reddit}} and Website/FourChan blamed Lazorgator for being overleveled and hogging all the experience from the other team members, thus making the game too easy.

* FreudWasRight: Wade calls A.J. wherever his [[UnusualEuphemism Caterpie]] grows. The causality between these two events is still unclear. Will Wade call AJ when it eventually evolves into a rock hard Metapod?

* TheScrappy: By Day 4, the stream had lost tens of thousands of viewers over what it usually had during the first generation, to the point even some of the live updaters were losing interest and not updating any longer. Some people on {{Reddit}} and [[ImageBoards 4Chan]] blamed Lazorgator for being overleveled and hogging all the experience from the other team members, thus making the game too easy.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: A more streamlined version of anarchy was experimented with, which took inputs for a half-second at a time and chose one at random. Democrats hated it because it replaced democracy, and Anarchists hated it because they thought it was too much like democracy. The old system was put back soon afterward, though this system is different from the one in Red and thus not very popular (see BaseBreaker).

*** [[MontyPythonsLifeOfBrian Brian]] is interpreted as an ordinary Pidgey [[UnwantedFalseFaith mistaken for the second coming of Bird Jesus]] and seeking to be recognized for what he is, and not what his ancestor was.