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** The revelation of a new group of Autobots calling themselves ''[[TransformersLastStandOfTheWreckers The Wreckers]]'' was quite exciting, since they have never had a real presense in any TF media except for the comics. In addition, MichaelBay stated that they "Don't really hide who they are." and we see NASCAR vehicles ''outfitted with lots of guns''.
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** According to ''Tales of the Fallen #6'', their processors were screwed around with by Decepticon Flatline, essentially implying ''that they're brain damaged''.
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* MoralEventHorizon: In the ''Dark of the Moon'' prequel comics, Shockwave starts ''Foundation'' 2 off by killing Chromia ([[HeGotBetter she got better]]) and then crosses it again when [[spoiler: he kills Elita-1, then mocks Optimus. [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge He didn't think the last part through]].]]
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** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Agent Simmons in ''Revenge of the Fallen'', for being the most heroic (if still crazy) character of the film. So of course they create around half a dozen characters to take the honor.
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** A recent article claims that Bay said the Twins aren't coming back. Oh thank you, God!
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** The comics published by IDW would go on to explain that the Fallen had been displeased with this rule for some time, and had been preparing to betray the other Primes over it. This was simply when he chose to do so.
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* UnpleasableFanbase: The first film focused on portraying Megatron as a vicious and very dangerous Transformer, which resulted in a fairly one-way fight with him pounding on Optimus. Fans complained. The sequel turns Optimus into a near unstoppable force who spends most of the movie pounding on Megatron. Fans complained. This may be because the "traditional" Megatron[=/=]Optimus is two fairly equal enemies beating on each other, [[TransformersAnimated albeit with occasional variation,]] rather than one completely able to own the other.
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Values Dissonance is just too debatable of an example, there might be some misogny in the films regarding Arcee\'s death but that\'s not the trope to use
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** So MeganFox is gone, who's this Rosie chick gonna play? Wait... '''''Carly?????'''''
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** So MeganFox is gone, who's this Rosie chick gonna play? Wait... '''''Carly?????''''''''''[[TransformersGeneration1 Carly]]?????'''''
** As far as Jazz's death is concerned Optimus did show a degree of sorrow when he was handed his friends' body, it's just that the movie didn't dwell on it particularly long.
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* BadassDecay: Megatron in ROTF. See TheWorfEffect, below. Also Starscream.
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* CriticalBacklash / CriticalDissonance: Big time with the second movie. Other than [[{{FanDumb}} GEEWUNNERS]], fans in general received ''ROTF'' more warmly than critics, as indicated by its rating of 6.0 on IMDB as opposed to its abysmal Rotten Tomatoes score.
** Although it should be noted that IMDB has been experiencing some serious grade inflation recently, particularly with newer movies. The mean vote across the entire website is up to 6.9, up from 6.5 only a couple of years ago. So a 6.0 is actually well below average for a movie from the last few years.
** Although it should be noted that IMDB has been experiencing some serious grade inflation recently, particularly with newer movies. The mean vote across the entire website is up to 6.9, up from 6.5 only a couple of years ago. So a 6.0 is actually well below average for a movie from the last few years.
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* CriticalBacklash / CriticalDissonance: Big time with the second movie. Other than [[{{FanDumb}} GEEWUNNERS]], fans in general received ''ROTF'' more warmly than critics, as indicated by its audience polls and IMDb rating of 6.0 on IMDB as opposed to versus its abysmal Rotten Tomatoes score.
** Although it should be noted that IMDB has been experiencing some serious grade inflation recently, particularly with newer movies. The mean vote across the entire website is up to 6.9, up from 6.5 only a couple of years ago. So a 6.0 is actually well below average for a movie from the last few years.or Metacritic score.
** Although it should be noted that IMDB has been experiencing some serious grade inflation recently, particularly with newer movies. The mean vote across the entire website is up to 6.9, up from 6.5 only a couple of years ago. So a 6.0 is actually well below average for a movie from the last few years.
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* IdiotPlot: The plot of the entire second second half of ROTF would have been derailed if the humans had been smart enough to check Jetfire for a faction symbol ''before'' waking him up.
** Not to mention that the entire reason the civil war between the Autobots and the Decepticons happened was that they didn't want to destroy the sun for Energon... why not use... oh, any solar system without life?
*** [[SarcasmMode Because there aren't a lot of those around.]]
*** The Fallen wanted to specifically wipe out humanity. Sure, it's VillainBall, but it's still a reason. The real question is, the original Primes clearly defeated the Fallen...why didn't they just ''kill him'' too?
**** It's actually not stated that they defeated him. In fact, the movie seems to point in the other direction that the Fallen was winning.
** Not to mention that the entire reason the civil war between the Autobots and the Decepticons happened was that they didn't want to destroy the sun for Energon... why not use... oh, any solar system without life?
*** [[SarcasmMode Because there aren't a lot of those around.]]
*** The Fallen wanted to specifically wipe out humanity. Sure, it's VillainBall, but it's still a reason. The real question is, the original Primes clearly defeated the Fallen...why didn't they just ''kill him'' too?
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* IdiotPlot: IdiotBall: The plot of the entire second second half of ROTF would have been derailed if the humans had been smart enough to check Jetfire for a faction symbol ''before'' waking him up.
** Not to mention that the entire reason the civil war between the Autobots and the Decepticons happened was that they didn't want to destroy the sun for Energon... why not use... oh, any solar system without life?
*** [[SarcasmMode Because there aren't a lot of those around.]]
*** The Fallen wanted to specifically wipe out humanity. Sure, it's VillainBall, but it's still a reason. The real question is, the original Primes clearly defeated the Fallen...why didn't they just ''kill him'' too?
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** Not to mention that the entire reason the civil war between the Autobots and the Decepticons happened was that they didn't want to destroy the sun for Energon... why not use... oh, any solar system without life?
*** [[SarcasmMode Because there aren't a lot of those around.]]
*** The Fallen wanted to specifically wipe out humanity. Sure, it's VillainBall, but it's still a reason. The real question is, the original Primes clearly defeated the Fallen...why didn't they just ''kill him'' too?
**** It's actually not stated that they defeated him. In fact, the movie seems to point in the other direction that the Fallen was winning.
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* MisBlamed: Type 5. Among other things, this is why we call them Bayformers and not ILMformers.
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** Reedman (The combined form of Ravage's nanobots) is a razor-thin 'Con who killed a man by jumping through his torso and bisecting him. Given the right lighting conditions and viewing angle, he's basically invisble, even if he was, say, [[spoiler:standing on your keyboard right now]].
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** Reedman (The combined form of Ravage's nanobots) is a razor-thin 'Con who killed a man by jumping through his torso and bisecting him. Given the right lighting conditions and viewing angle, he's basically invisble, even if he was, say, [[spoiler:standing on your keyboard right now]].invisble.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The first film in the series was received fairly well as a fun SummerBlockbuster. ''Revenge of the Fallen'' is a LoveItOrHateIt affair. And with the third in production, there's already heated discussion of whether or not it will completely suck. Though to be fair, "heated discussion of whether or not it will completely suck" is the standard reaction to upcoming new ''Transformers'' fiction.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The first film in the series was received fairly well as a fun SummerBlockbuster. ''Revenge of the Fallen'' is a LoveItOrHateIt affair. And with the third in production, there's already heated discussion of whether or not it will completely suck. Though to be fair, "heated discussion of whether or not it will completely suck" is the standard reaction to upcoming new ''Transformers'' fiction.fiction, and really just about any [[RuinedForever franchise out there anyway]].
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* UnfortunateImplications: The twins in the second movie can easily be interpreted as such. Whether it was knowing or not is very hotly debated, but at the absolute least a large number of people walked away feeling offended, black or otherwise, at what has been seen as racial caricatures due to facial designs and speech patterns that resemble negative stereotypes. While the official words is that they were intended to mimic "wiggers"[[hottip:*:white people acting like stereotypes of black people because they think it's cool]], it's worth noting that for a period of time after the movie was first released, Michael Bay's most frequently voiced response to the criticism was that the movie was "for kids" or to say it was the actors' improvisation. If that was the reason all along, why not say it from the very beginning?
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* UnfortunateImplications: The twins in the second movie can easily be interpreted as such. Whether it was knowing or not is very hotly debated, but at the absolute least a large number of people walked away feeling offended, black or otherwise, at what has been seen as racial caricatures due to facial designs and speech patterns that resemble negative stereotypes. While the official words is that they were intended to mimic "wiggers"[[hottip:*:white people acting like stereotypes of black people because they think it's cool]], it's worth noting that for a period of time after the movie was first released, Michael Bay's most frequently voiced response to the criticism was that the movie was "for kids" or to say it was the actors' improvisation. If that was the reason all along, why not say it from the very beginning?cool]].
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* ValuesDissonance: Every female in these movie that's not an extra or Mikaela is either useless, evil, or too busy worrying about romance to focus on the task on hand.
** ROTF does introduce Arcee, or rather a set of Arcees (Supplementary material suggests that they're bound by a single consciousness) on the side of the Autobots, although she's mostly in the background. The sum total of their role in the movie consists of chasing Sideways (who gets killed by another character), shooting two puny shots at Demolishor (who gets killed by another character), yelling "RUN" at Sam's party, then two of their number getting shot in the face and screaming pathetically.
*** Which only makes sense, considering that they're ''motorcycles'', and can hardly be expected to have the armour or firepower to slug it out with the larger bots, hence they're basically relegated to reconnaissance and pursuit. Hell, Arcee's online profile makes it very clear that she is a ''spy'', not a warrior; she and her components probably only came along because they were some of the only Autobots on hand. It makes sense from a meta standpoint as well: Bay has gone on record as saying he hated the character for not being awesome enough, and took a particular pleasure in having her killed.
*** Indeed, it's not as though he as the director had the option of, say, ''making her MORE awesome'', rather than cackling with glee while plotting her demise.
*** According to an unused character design, Arcee and her sisters were intended to combine into a single robot, possibly making her/them of similar size to most car-mode 'bots like Sideswipe. That could've easily been their [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moment of Awesome]] in the climax.
** However, in the department of evil women we have Alice, who in addition to molesting Sam and encouraging him to cheat on Mikaela [[spoiler:turned out to be a Decepticon.]]
** Of course, by the time the sequel rolls around, Mikaela is arguably more competent than ''Sam''.
*** The sequel? Have you seen the ''first'' movie? Particularly [[spoiler:the bit where Frenzy attacks? Sam's reaction is to lose his pants. Mikaela's reaction is to take a drill to his head.]]
** ROTF does introduce Arcee, or rather a set of Arcees (Supplementary material suggests that they're bound by a single consciousness) on the side of the Autobots, although she's mostly in the background. The sum total of their role in the movie consists of chasing Sideways (who gets killed by another character), shooting two puny shots at Demolishor (who gets killed by another character), yelling "RUN" at Sam's party, then two of their number getting shot in the face and screaming pathetically.
*** Which only makes sense, considering that they're ''motorcycles'', and can hardly be expected to have the armour or firepower to slug it out with the larger bots, hence they're basically relegated to reconnaissance and pursuit. Hell, Arcee's online profile makes it very clear that she is a ''spy'', not a warrior; she and her components probably only came along because they were some of the only Autobots on hand. It makes sense from a meta standpoint as well: Bay has gone on record as saying he hated the character for not being awesome enough, and took a particular pleasure in having her killed.
*** Indeed, it's not as though he as the director had the option of, say, ''making her MORE awesome'', rather than cackling with glee while plotting her demise.
*** According to an unused character design, Arcee and her sisters were intended to combine into a single robot, possibly making her/them of similar size to most car-mode 'bots like Sideswipe. That could've easily been their [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moment of Awesome]] in the climax.
** However, in the department of evil women we have Alice, who in addition to molesting Sam and encouraging him to cheat on Mikaela [[spoiler:turned out to be a Decepticon.]]
** Of course, by the time the sequel rolls around, Mikaela is arguably more competent than ''Sam''.
*** The sequel? Have you seen the ''first'' movie? Particularly [[spoiler:the bit where Frenzy attacks? Sam's reaction is to lose his pants. Mikaela's reaction is to take a drill to his head.]]
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* ValuesDissonance: Every female in these movie that's not an extra or Mikaela is either useless, evil, or too busy worrying about romance to focus on VillainBall: To build a Solar Harvester the task on hand.
** ROTF does introduce Arcee, or rather a set of Arcees (Supplementary material suggestsPrimes demanded to use solar systems that they're bound by a single consciousness) on did not support life, Earth was originally believed to be uninhabited and the side of the Autobots, although she's mostly in the background. Solar Harvester was already complete when humanity was discovered. The sum total of their role in the movie consists of chasing Sideways (who gets killed by Fallen refused to look for another character), shooting two puny shots at Demolishor (who gets killed by another character), yelling "RUN" at Sam's party, then two of planet and tried to activate the Havester without their number getting shot in the face and screaming pathetically.
*** Which only makes sense, considering that they're ''motorcycles'', and can hardly be expected to have the armour or firepower to slug it out with the larger bots, hence they're basically relegated to reconnaissance and pursuit. Hell, Arcee's online profile makes it very clear that she is a ''spy'', not a warrior; she and her components probably only came alongconsent, just because they were some of the only Autobots on hand. It makes sense from a meta standpoint as well: Bay has gone on record as saying he hated the character for not being awesome enough, and took a particular pleasure in didn't like having her killed.
*** Indeed, it's not as though he as the director had the option of, say, ''making her MORE awesome'', rather than cackling with glee while plotting her demise.
*** Accordingto an unused character design, Arcee and her sisters were intended to combine into a single robot, possibly making her/them of similar size to most car-mode 'bots like Sideswipe. That could've easily been their [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moment of Awesome]] in the climax.
** However, in the department of evil women we have Alice, who in addition to molesting Sam and encouraging him to cheat on Mikaela [[spoiler:turned out to be a Decepticon.]]
** Of course, by the time the sequel rolls around, Mikaela is arguably more competent than ''Sam''.
*** The sequel? Have you seen the ''first'' movie? Particularly [[spoiler:the bit where Frenzy attacks? Sam's reaction is to lose his pants. Mikaela's reaction is to take a drill to his head.]]start over.
** ROTF does introduce Arcee, or rather a set of Arcees (Supplementary material suggests
*** Which only makes sense, considering that they're ''motorcycles'', and can hardly be expected to have the armour or firepower to slug it out with the larger bots, hence they're basically relegated to reconnaissance and pursuit. Hell, Arcee's online profile makes it very clear that she is a ''spy'', not a warrior; she and her components probably only came along
*** Indeed, it's not as though he as the director had the option of, say, ''making her MORE awesome'', rather than cackling with glee while plotting her demise.
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** However, in the department of evil women we have Alice, who in addition to molesting Sam and encouraging him to cheat on Mikaela [[spoiler:turned out to be a Decepticon.]]
** Of course, by the time the sequel rolls around, Mikaela is arguably more competent than ''Sam''.
*** The sequel? Have you seen the ''first'' movie? Particularly [[spoiler:the bit where Frenzy attacks? Sam's reaction is to lose his pants. Mikaela's reaction is to take a drill to his head.]]
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** So, CoreyBurton isn't reprising his role as Shockwave. Bummer. I wonder who they're considering as a replacement... wait, '''DavidWarner?!'''
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** So, CoreyBurton isn't reprising his role as Shockwave. Bummer. I wonder who they're considering as a replacement... wait, '''DavidWarner?!''''''[[{{TRON}} David Warner]]?!'''
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* CompleteMonster: The Fallen. He didn't ''have'' to destroy a populated solar system, the other Primes didn't want to and had a law against it. At least from the perspective of the movie, he didn't need to do so and could've just continued using uninhabited solar systems along with the other Primes. He chose to destroy Earth's system because he wanted to. The best motive the guy could actually have is spite for the other Primes for making a rule, the worst is just being AxeCrazy and wanting to commit genocide for no reason, which isn't a stretch as he's litterally the original Decepticon and inspired all the others. Not to mention that he started the civil war that destroyed Cybertron and cost billions of lives and feels no remorse about it.
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* YourMileageMayVary: The first film was generally considered shallow but entertaining if you don't set your standards too high. The second film was critically savaged, but still made a fortune at the box office and has many fans hailing it as the best action film of all time (while [[BrokenBase many others]] [[{{Hatedom}} deride it as the]] ''[[{{Hatedom}} worst]]'' [[{{Hatedom}} action film of all time, sometime extending that to worst]] ''[[{{Hatedom}} film]]'' [[{{Hatedom}} of all time)]]. Your opinion will mainly depend on what you expect to get from an action film.
** The same goes for both movies' stabs at humor: it's either hilarious comic gold that will leave you teary with laughter, painfully unfunny crap that will leave you teary with frustration, or simply a noble but misguided effort to liven up the script that made a long movie even longer and left you teary with boredom. The point is, it probably made you cry.
*** On that note, the Twins, Skids and Mudflap are either funny, not funny, or [[UnfortunateImplications downright racist.]]
*** Or just incredibly [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] [[TheScrappy annoying]].
** The same goes for both movies' stabs at humor: it's either hilarious comic gold that will leave you teary with laughter, painfully unfunny crap that will leave you teary with frustration, or simply a noble but misguided effort to liven up the script that made a long movie even longer and left you teary with boredom. The point is, it probably made you cry.
*** On that note, the Twins, Skids and Mudflap are either funny, not funny, or [[UnfortunateImplications downright racist.]]
*** Or just incredibly [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] [[TheScrappy annoying]].
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** The same goes for both movies' stabs at humor: it's either hilarious comic gold that will leave you teary with laughter, painfully unfunny crap that will leave you teary with frustration, or simply a noble but misguided effort to liven up the script that made a long movie even longer and left you teary with boredom. The point is, it probably made you cry.
*** On that note, the Twins, Skids and Mudflap are either funny, not funny, or [[UnfortunateImplications downright racist.]]
*** Or just incredibly [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] [[TheScrappy annoying]].
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***** Those who ''dis''like the movies, meanwhile, often exaggerate such things into a systematic persecution of dissenting opinions. And thus the cycle continues.
* MisBlamed: Type 5. Among other things, this is why we call them Bayformers and not ILMformers.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The first film in the series was received fairly well as a fun SummerBlockbuster. ''Revenge of the Fallen'' is a LoveItOrHateIt affair. And with the third in production, there's already heated discussion of whether or not it will completely suck.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The first film in the series was received fairly well as a fun SummerBlockbuster. ''Revenge of the Fallen'' is a LoveItOrHateIt affair. And with the third in production, there's already heated discussion of whether or not it will completely suck. Though to be fair, "heated discussion of whether or not it will completely suck" is the standard reaction to upcoming new ''Transformers'' fiction.
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* AngstWhatAngst: Optimus Prime has occasionally been criticized by certain viewers and fans for not showing as much emotion as expected when some of his closest friends (like Jazz) are killed in battle. Although, Optimus has been fighting in a war that has lasted more than 10,000 years, that destroyed their planet and has cost countless many friends, allies and innocents. Optimus even makes a point in the sequel that whole generations of their species had been lost because of the war.
* AwardSnub: The CGI (see DoingItForTheArt below) lost to ''TheGoldenCompass'' at the Oscars.
** ''ROTF'' wasn't even ''nominated'' for visual effects at the Oscars, possibly as a result of the film's negative buzz.
* BadassDecay: Megatron in ROTF. See TheWorfEffect, below. Also Starscream.
* CriticalBacklash / CriticalDissonance: Big time with the second movie. Other than [[{{FanDumb}} GEEWUNNERS]], fans in general received ''ROTF'' more warmly than critics, as indicated by its rating of 6.0 on IMDB as opposed to its abysmal Rotten Tomatoes score.
** Although it should be noted that IMDB has been experiencing some serious grade inflation recently, particularly with newer movies. The mean vote across the entire website is up to 6.9, up from 6.5 only a couple of years ago. So a 6.0 is actually well below average for a movie from the last few years.
* AwardSnub: The CGI (see DoingItForTheArt below) lost to ''TheGoldenCompass'' at the Oscars.
** ''ROTF'' wasn't even ''nominated'' for visual effects at the Oscars, possibly as a result of the film's negative buzz.
* BadassDecay: Megatron in ROTF. See TheWorfEffect, below. Also Starscream.
* CriticalBacklash / CriticalDissonance: Big time with the second movie. Other than [[{{FanDumb}} GEEWUNNERS]], fans in general received ''ROTF'' more warmly than critics, as indicated by its rating of 6.0 on IMDB as opposed to its abysmal Rotten Tomatoes score.
** Although it should be noted that IMDB has been experiencing some serious grade inflation recently, particularly with newer movies. The mean vote across the entire website is up to 6.9, up from 6.5 only a couple of years ago. So a 6.0 is actually well below average for a movie from the last few years.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Jetfire and Agent Simmons (though the latter only becomes one in the second movie)
** Some minor characters with a following include Sideswipe (an ''awesome'' opening scene but nothing else in ROTF), Demolishor (mainly because he's ''an evil unicycle'') and Breakaway (who is just a toy and not in the film itself), due to his unique robot mode and big round eyes has become Transformers' Greatest [[TheWoobie Woobie]].
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Jetfire and Agent Simmons (though the latter only becomes one in the second movie)
** Some minor characters with a following include Sideswipe (an ''awesome'' opening scene but nothing else in ROTF), Demolishor (mainly because he's ''an evil unicycle'') and Breakaway (who is just a toy and not in the film itself), due to his unique robot mode and big round eyes has become Transformers' Greatest [[TheWoobie Woobie]].
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** The human/Transformer hybrid known as The Pretender is being called [[spoiler:"Deceptislut".]]
** "Bayformers," while starting as a DetractorNickname (and to some still is) has gone on to be an affectionate name for the series and the robot designs in general.
*** Sadly, the designs are one of the main reasons why some people hate the movies, from FanDumb (Prime having a mouth, and the robots not looking exactly the same as G1), to good reasons (many minor Decepticons look the same, although minor Mooks in Transformers always have).
** Due to Optimus' dramatic [[spoiler:sacrifice and resurrection]], many have been calling him "Optimus Christ". [[http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=95801867252 There is even a Facebook group devoted to his honor.]] And why not? He died for our sins.
** In the first movie, Bumblebee projecting an Autobot signal into the clouds = the [[{{Batman}} Bot-signal]].
* FirstInstallmentWins: The first film of this series has received far better praise than the sequel did, which was panned.
** The human/Transformer hybrid known as The Pretender is being called [[spoiler:"Deceptislut".]]
** "Bayformers," while starting as a DetractorNickname (and to some still is) has gone on to be an affectionate name for the series and the robot designs in general.
*** Sadly, the designs are one of the main reasons why some people hate the movies, from FanDumb (Prime having a mouth, and the robots not looking exactly the same as G1), to good reasons (many minor Decepticons look the same, although minor Mooks in Transformers always have).
** Due to Optimus' dramatic [[spoiler:sacrifice and resurrection]], many have been calling him "Optimus Christ". [[http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=95801867252 There is even a Facebook group devoted to his honor.]] And why not? He died for our sins.
** In the first movie, Bumblebee projecting an Autobot signal into the clouds = the [[{{Batman}} Bot-signal]].
* FirstInstallmentWins: The first film of this series has received far better praise than the sequel did, which was panned.
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* GannonBanned: The Decepticon tank in the first movie referred to himself as being "Devastator" in a subtitle conversation. It was only a working name and should have been named "Brawl." The reasons for the mistake is that it wasn't a mistake, Michael Bay simply prefered "Devastator" despite that it is supposed to reference the Constructicon Combiner robot. The toy and supplimental materials all refer to him as Brawl and fans treat the movie as just being an editing error, with a MemeticMutation that Brawl was having an identity crisis. The combiner robot later shows up in ''Revenge of the Fallen'' and takes on that name officially in all materials.
* {{Hatedom}}: Let's just say that one exists. When the first movie came out, the {{Hatedom}} was just as vicious as ever but fairly small (and mostly consisted of [[{{FanDumb}} GEEWUNNERS]]), but when ''[[{{Sequelitis}} ROTF]]'' came out, hoo boy...
* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Megatron. Good lord, MEGATRON.
* HilariousInHindsight: Try watching Megan Fox in ''JennifersBody'' [[spoiler:while keeping in mind Alice's real nature.]]
** See MostlyNarmless below: the whole "I can smell you" thing brings to mind a line from the infamous 'Backstroke Of The West' BlindIdiotTranslation of ''RevengeOfTheSith'', where Grievous supposedly says "Smelly boy", referring to Anakin.
** Anthony Anderson's cousin seems to think DanceDanceRevolution can detect you doing 'TheMatrix'... or did his hacker connections get him the world's first {{Kinect}}?
* {{Hatedom}}: Let's just say that one exists. When the first movie came out, the {{Hatedom}} was just as vicious as ever but fairly small (and mostly consisted of [[{{FanDumb}} GEEWUNNERS]]), but when ''[[{{Sequelitis}} ROTF]]'' came out, hoo boy...
* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Megatron. Good lord, MEGATRON.
* HilariousInHindsight: Try watching Megan Fox in ''JennifersBody'' [[spoiler:while keeping in mind Alice's real nature.]]
** See MostlyNarmless below: the whole "I can smell you" thing brings to mind a line from the infamous 'Backstroke Of The West' BlindIdiotTranslation of ''RevengeOfTheSith'', where Grievous supposedly says "Smelly boy", referring to Anakin.
** Anthony Anderson's cousin seems to think DanceDanceRevolution can detect you doing 'TheMatrix'... or did his hacker connections get him the world's first {{Kinect}}?
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* InternetBackdraft: There are still many fans who scream RuinedForever.
** Even more so after ''Revenge of the Fallen'', now with more Michael Bay hate.
* JustHereForGodzilla: Many people who went to the movie watched it solely to see giant robots beat the crap out of each other...and for Megan Fox.
** ...So...Megan Fox is...Godzilla?
*** There's plenty of folks who wouldn't mind seeing Megan Fox in a [[FetishFuel rubber suit]].
* LoveItOrHateIt: In addition to the divided fanbase, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' was slammed ''hard'' by critics who liked the first movie (currently 19% on Rotten Tomatoes), but audiences loved it better than the first movie and went back for more. It's on its way to becoming the worst-rated $400 million earner in film history.
** Even Shia Labeouf hates the film, saying it confused him and he didn't agree with some parts of the plot, but unlike the critics and everyone else who attacked the film, he [[http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/shia-labeouf-confused-by-transformers_1137755 blames the Writers' Strike, saying the production had basically nothing to work with.]]
* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Malaysians Love Transformers]]: Oh so very much. No, [[http://www.screendaily.com/malaysian-box-office-boom-continues-as-transformers-sets-new-record/4033877.article seriously]].
* MemeticMutation: Bonecrusher hates everything. (Taken from his toy biography.)
** Optimus Prime: '''GIVE ME YOUR FACE'''.
** '''SHUT UP, GRANDMA!'''
*** '''DRINK YOUR PRUNE JUICE!'''
** Even more so after ''Revenge of the Fallen'', now with more Michael Bay hate.
* JustHereForGodzilla: Many people who went to the movie watched it solely to see giant robots beat the crap out of each other...and for Megan Fox.
** ...So...Megan Fox is...Godzilla?
*** There's plenty of folks who wouldn't mind seeing Megan Fox in a [[FetishFuel rubber suit]].
* LoveItOrHateIt: In addition to the divided fanbase, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' was slammed ''hard'' by critics who liked the first movie (currently 19% on Rotten Tomatoes), but audiences loved it better than the first movie and went back for more. It's on its way to becoming the worst-rated $400 million earner in film history.
** Even Shia Labeouf hates the film, saying it confused him and he didn't agree with some parts of the plot, but unlike the critics and everyone else who attacked the film, he [[http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/shia-labeouf-confused-by-transformers_1137755 blames the Writers' Strike, saying the production had basically nothing to work with.]]
* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Malaysians Love Transformers]]: Oh so very much. No, [[http://www.screendaily.com/malaysian-box-office-boom-continues-as-transformers-sets-new-record/4033877.article seriously]].
* MemeticMutation: Bonecrusher hates everything. (Taken from his toy biography.)
** Optimus Prime: '''GIVE ME YOUR FACE'''.
** '''SHUT UP, GRANDMA!'''
*** '''DRINK YOUR PRUNE JUICE!'''
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* MostlyNarmless: The line "I CAN SMELL YOU, BOY!" has great potential for Narm, but the delivery made it ''terrifying''.
* NauseaFuel: The little interrogation thingy that Scalpel shoves down Sam's throat.
* ParanoiaFuel: Anything could be a Transformer. That car, that toaster, that cell phone, that policeman in his car, [[spoiler:the [[ArtificialHuman hot chick]] who can't keep her hands off you (You better hope she just wants to rape you)]]...
** Reedman (The combined form of Ravage's nanobots) is a razor-thin 'Con who killed a man by jumping through his torso and bisecting him. Given the right lighting conditions and viewing angle, he's basically invisble, even if he was, say, [[spoiler:standing on your keyboard right now]].
** At the end of the sequel [[spoiler:Soundwave is still there, hooked into a military satellite...what if he gets bored?]]
*** Not helped at all by his toy bio which states that Soundwave can pretty much ''destroy civilization'' if he wanted to, due to all the satellite's he's hacked.
** The paranoia factor arguably isn't played up nearly as much as it should be in such a scenario, but then, Transformers is an action movie, not a horror film.
* RuinedFOREVER: Hey it's the Transformers {{Fandom}}.
* TheScrappy: Sam (Shia [=LeBeouf=] seems to naturally play Scrappies). In his defense, the fandom [[RuinedFOREVER usually reacts this way to any human main.]]
** The sequel introduces [[SiblingYinYang Skids and Mudflap]] for basically the same reason. Bay described them as being "goofy and stupid but still heroic." Yeah, they're mostly just stupid. But at least they can fight, if their ColossusClimb is any indication.
** Also from the second film: Sam's mom and Wheelie. Combined, these two and the Twins make up two-thirds of the groaner humor and three fourths of the padding in ROTF.
*** And yet, Wheelie was ''still'' less annoying than the version in the 1986 animated movie.
** And Leo. Some audiences erupted with applause when Agent Simmons tasered him.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The first film in the series was received fairly well as a fun SummerBlockbuster. ''Revenge of the Fallen'' is a LoveItOrHateIt affair. And with the third in production, there's already heated discussion of whether or not it will completely suck.
* {{Squick}}: [[spoiler:Imagine an entire room filled with rotting Decepticon fetuses, covered in hideous slimy green goop. Now, imagine seeing that in IMAX format!]]
** Also, [[spoiler:Bumblebee's defeat of Ravage]].
** Let's not forget [[spoiler:Sam being pinned down, whilst a small Decepticon enters and exits his head]]!
* TearJerker: [[spoiler:Optimus Prime's death, but [[IGotBetter he gets better]].]]
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TRUKK NOT MUNKY in full force, or rather, GUN NOT JET.
** Megatron's new tank form has been better received, if anything because it is the more acceptable non-gun form ''and'' he has the traditional cannon arm. And, in the film, can still fly.
** Even though this is Megatron's 2nd or 3rd time as a plane (and his 3rd as a tank.)
** Also, the designs. Oh, god, the reaction to the designs...
* TrappedByMountainLions: Reams of this. The movies really don't have to be as long as they are. The hackers from the first film stand out, in particular.
* UglyCute: Wheelie. Voiced by TomKenny, as well.
* NauseaFuel: The little interrogation thingy that Scalpel shoves down Sam's throat.
* ParanoiaFuel: Anything could be a Transformer. That car, that toaster, that cell phone, that policeman in his car, [[spoiler:the [[ArtificialHuman hot chick]] who can't keep her hands off you (You better hope she just wants to rape you)]]...
** Reedman (The combined form of Ravage's nanobots) is a razor-thin 'Con who killed a man by jumping through his torso and bisecting him. Given the right lighting conditions and viewing angle, he's basically invisble, even if he was, say, [[spoiler:standing on your keyboard right now]].
** At the end of the sequel [[spoiler:Soundwave is still there, hooked into a military satellite...what if he gets bored?]]
*** Not helped at all by his toy bio which states that Soundwave can pretty much ''destroy civilization'' if he wanted to, due to all the satellite's he's hacked.
** The paranoia factor arguably isn't played up nearly as much as it should be in such a scenario, but then, Transformers is an action movie, not a horror film.
* RuinedFOREVER: Hey it's the Transformers {{Fandom}}.
* TheScrappy: Sam (Shia [=LeBeouf=] seems to naturally play Scrappies). In his defense, the fandom [[RuinedFOREVER usually reacts this way to any human main.]]
** The sequel introduces [[SiblingYinYang Skids and Mudflap]] for basically the same reason. Bay described them as being "goofy and stupid but still heroic." Yeah, they're mostly just stupid. But at least they can fight, if their ColossusClimb is any indication.
** Also from the second film: Sam's mom and Wheelie. Combined, these two and the Twins make up two-thirds of the groaner humor and three fourths of the padding in ROTF.
*** And yet, Wheelie was ''still'' less annoying than the version in the 1986 animated movie.
** And Leo. Some audiences erupted with applause when Agent Simmons tasered him.
* {{Sequelitis}}: The first film in the series was received fairly well as a fun SummerBlockbuster. ''Revenge of the Fallen'' is a LoveItOrHateIt affair. And with the third in production, there's already heated discussion of whether or not it will completely suck.
* {{Squick}}: [[spoiler:Imagine an entire room filled with rotting Decepticon fetuses, covered in hideous slimy green goop. Now, imagine seeing that in IMAX format!]]
** Also, [[spoiler:Bumblebee's defeat of Ravage]].
** Let's not forget [[spoiler:Sam being pinned down, whilst a small Decepticon enters and exits his head]]!
* TearJerker: [[spoiler:Optimus Prime's death, but [[IGotBetter he gets better]].]]
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TRUKK NOT MUNKY in full force, or rather, GUN NOT JET.
** Megatron's new tank form has been better received, if anything because it is the more acceptable non-gun form ''and'' he has the traditional cannon arm. And, in the film, can still fly.
** Even though this is Megatron's 2nd or 3rd time as a plane (and his 3rd as a tank.)
** Also, the designs. Oh, god, the reaction to the designs...
* TrappedByMountainLions: Reams of this. The movies really don't have to be as long as they are. The hackers from the first film stand out, in particular.
* UglyCute: Wheelie. Voiced by TomKenny, as well.
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* ValuesDissonance: Every female in these movie that's not an extra or Mikaela is either useless, evil, or too busy worrying about romance to focus on the task on hand.
** ROTF does introduce Arcee, or rather a set of Arcees (Supplementary material suggests that they're bound by a single consciousness) on the side of the Autobots, although she's mostly in the background. The sum total of their role in the movie consists of chasing Sideways (who gets killed by another character), shooting two puny shots at Demolishor (who gets killed by another character), yelling "RUN" at Sam's party, then two of their number getting shot in the face and screaming pathetically.
*** Which only makes sense, considering that they're ''motorcycles'', and can hardly be expected to have the armour or firepower to slug it out with the larger bots, hence they're basically relegated to reconnaissance and pursuit. Hell, Arcee's online profile makes it very clear that she is a ''spy'', not a warrior; she and her components probably only came along because they were some of the only Autobots on hand. It makes sense from a meta standpoint as well: Bay has gone on record as saying he hated the character for not being awesome enough, and took a particular pleasure in having her killed.
*** Indeed, it's not as though he as the director had the option of, say, ''making her MORE awesome'', rather than cackling with glee while plotting her demise.
*** According to an unused character design, Arcee and her sisters were intended to combine into a single robot, possibly making her/them of similar size to most car-mode 'bots like Sideswipe. That could've easily been their [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moment of Awesome]] in the climax.
** However, in the department of evil women we have Alice, who in addition to molesting Sam and encouraging him to cheat on Mikaela [[spoiler:turned out to be a Decepticon.]]
** Of course, by the time the sequel rolls around, Mikaela is arguably more competent than ''Sam''.
*** The sequel? Have you seen the ''first'' movie? Particularly [[spoiler:the bit where Frenzy attacks? Sam's reaction is to lose his pants. Mikaela's reaction is to take a drill to his head.]]
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Bay knows how to film cars and taught everything he knew to the CGI animators. With only mild exceptions every shot of the robots look like they somehow animated these things live on the set with actual car parts.
** One of the computers being used to animate Devastator actually ''melted''. Also, Devastator reportedly got ''StevenSpielberg'' to drop a PrecisionFStrike when he first saw it.
* TheWoobie: Toyline-only jet Breakaway, thanks mostly to his robot mode's face (which looks sort of forlorn) and some help from at least one image board's toy board.
** Interesting when you consider the character's young, hot-shot sort of portrayal in the video game. When faced with this new development, many fans decided to [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation give the darker brown variant of the action figure the canonical game persona and keep the lighter brown variant as]] [[FanNickname the Sadjet]].
** ROTF does introduce Arcee, or rather a set of Arcees (Supplementary material suggests that they're bound by a single consciousness) on the side of the Autobots, although she's mostly in the background. The sum total of their role in the movie consists of chasing Sideways (who gets killed by another character), shooting two puny shots at Demolishor (who gets killed by another character), yelling "RUN" at Sam's party, then two of their number getting shot in the face and screaming pathetically.
*** Which only makes sense, considering that they're ''motorcycles'', and can hardly be expected to have the armour or firepower to slug it out with the larger bots, hence they're basically relegated to reconnaissance and pursuit. Hell, Arcee's online profile makes it very clear that she is a ''spy'', not a warrior; she and her components probably only came along because they were some of the only Autobots on hand. It makes sense from a meta standpoint as well: Bay has gone on record as saying he hated the character for not being awesome enough, and took a particular pleasure in having her killed.
*** Indeed, it's not as though he as the director had the option of, say, ''making her MORE awesome'', rather than cackling with glee while plotting her demise.
*** According to an unused character design, Arcee and her sisters were intended to combine into a single robot, possibly making her/them of similar size to most car-mode 'bots like Sideswipe. That could've easily been their [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Crowning Moment of Awesome]] in the climax.
** However, in the department of evil women we have Alice, who in addition to molesting Sam and encouraging him to cheat on Mikaela [[spoiler:turned out to be a Decepticon.]]
** Of course, by the time the sequel rolls around, Mikaela is arguably more competent than ''Sam''.
*** The sequel? Have you seen the ''first'' movie? Particularly [[spoiler:the bit where Frenzy attacks? Sam's reaction is to lose his pants. Mikaela's reaction is to take a drill to his head.]]
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Bay knows how to film cars and taught everything he knew to the CGI animators. With only mild exceptions every shot of the robots look like they somehow animated these things live on the set with actual car parts.
** One of the computers being used to animate Devastator actually ''melted''. Also, Devastator reportedly got ''StevenSpielberg'' to drop a PrecisionFStrike when he first saw it.
* TheWoobie: Toyline-only jet Breakaway, thanks mostly to his robot mode's face (which looks sort of forlorn) and some help from at least one image board's toy board.
** Interesting when you consider the character's young, hot-shot sort of portrayal in the video game. When faced with this new development, many fans decided to [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation give the darker brown variant of the action figure the canonical game persona and keep the lighter brown variant as]] [[FanNickname the Sadjet]].
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* YourMileageMayVary: The first film was generally considered shallow but entertaining if you don't set your standards too high. The second film was critically savaged, but still made a fortune at the box office and has many fans hailing it as the best action film of all time (while [[BrokenBase many others]] [[{{Hatedom}} deride it as the]] ''[[{{Hatedom}} worst]]'' [[{{Hatedom}} [[strike:action]] film of all time]]). Your opinion will mainly depend on what you expect to get from an action film.
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* YourMileageMayVary: The first film was generally considered shallow but entertaining if you don't set your standards too high. The second film was critically savaged, but still made a fortune at the box office and has many fans hailing it as the best action film of all time (while [[BrokenBase many others]] [[{{Hatedom}} deride it as the]] ''[[{{Hatedom}} worst]]'' [[{{Hatedom}} [[strike:action]] action film of all time]]).time, sometime extending that to worst]] ''[[{{Hatedom}} film]]'' [[{{Hatedom}} of all time)]]. Your opinion will mainly depend on what you expect to get from an action film.
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* YourMileageMayVary: The first film was generally considered shallow but entertaining if you don't set your standards too high. The second film was critically savaged, but still made a fortune at the box office and has many fans hailing it as the best action film of all time (while [[BrokenBase many others]] [[{{Hatedom}} deride it as the]] ''[[{{Hatedom}} worst]]'' [[{{Hatedom}} action [[strike:action]] film of all time]]). Your opinion will mainly depend on what you expect to get from an action film.
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** Actually, the theme "Prime" from ROTF's score could refer to the other Primes and not just Optimus (minus The Fallen, obviously). On the brutalness, there's debate in that in the first film, Optimus is trying to lessen collateral damages (humans and buildings), whereas in the forest fight for ROTF, he can go full out. Regarding the Shanghai chase, IDW's "[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Tales_of_the_Fallen_issue_2 Tales of the Fallen #2]]" shows Demolishor deliberately hiding to bait any large forces to go after him just so he could kill them kinda justifies this trope on Optimus' part.
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** Actually, the theme "Prime" from ROTF's score could refer to the other Primes and not just Optimus (minus The Fallen, obviously). On the brutalness, there's debate in that in the first film, Optimus is trying to lessen collateral damages (humans and buildings), whereas in the forest fight for ROTF, he can go full out. Regarding the Shanghai chase, IDW's "[[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Tales_of_the_Fallen_issue_2 Tales of the Fallen #2]]" shows Demolishor deliberately hiding to bait any large forces to go after him just so he could kill them kinda justifies this trope on Optimus' part.
