History YMMV / Transformers

20th Oct '17 12:20:10 PM XDiakos
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Whether if the TV show/movie is good or bad, you can always expect Creator/PeterCullen to deliver a stellar performance as Optimus Prime. Peter always gives it his all simply out of love for the character.

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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Whether if the TV show/movie is good or bad, you can always expect Creator/PeterCullen and Creator/FrankWelker to deliver a stellar performance performances as Optimus Prime. Peter Prime and Megatron. They always gives it his their all simply out of love for the character.characters.
9th Sep '17 9:01:56 PM DrPsyche
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* EvilIsCool: The Decepticons naturally. Their side contains the more military orientated vehicle forms and they were the first to debut big new gimmicks like Triple Changers and Combiners.
7th Sep '17 6:04:07 PM Whipsmart
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* HarsherInHindsight: When Mojo pees on Ironhide in the [[Film/Transformers 2007 film]], he worries about rusting. In ''[[TransformersDarkOfTheMoon Dark of the Moon]]'' [[spoiler: this is what happens to him as he dies.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: When Mojo pees on Ironhide in the [[Film/Transformers [[{{Film/Transformers}} 2007 film]], he worries about rusting. In ''[[TransformersDarkOfTheMoon Dark of the Moon]]'' [[spoiler: this is what happens to him as he dies.]]
7th Sep '17 6:02:20 PM Whipsmart
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* HarsherInHindsight: When Mojo pees on Ironhide, the latter worries about rusting. In ''[[TransformersDarkOfTheMoon Dark of the Moon]]'' [[spoiler: this is what happens to him as he dies.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: When Mojo pees on Ironhide, Ironhide in the latter [[Film/Transformers 2007 film]], he worries about rusting. In ''[[TransformersDarkOfTheMoon Dark of the Moon]]'' [[spoiler: this is what happens to him as he dies.]]
7th Sep '17 5:53:40 PM Whipsmart
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''WesternAnimation/TransformersRescueBots'' is filled with Bumblebee toys, including a large playset. Bumblebee only appears in three episodes as a guest. A lot of fans are bemoaning the oversaturation of Bumblebee, and wishing [[Anime/TransformersArmada Hot Shot]] would make a comeback. In fact, the creators of ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated Animated]]'' vyed for Hot Shot (in a main role, at least), but since execs wanted 'Bee instead, they had to [[LeeroyJenkins comp]][[MotorMouth romise]]. And for all his charm, he has a ''lot'' of screentime and is intentionally annoying.

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*** ''WesternAnimation/TransformersRescueBots'' is filled with Bumblebee toys, including a large playset. Bumblebee only appears in three episodes as a guest. A lot of fans are bemoaning the oversaturation of Bumblebee, and wishing [[Anime/TransformersArmada Hot Shot]] would make a comeback. In fact, the creators of ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated Animated]]'' vyed for Hot Shot (in a main role, at least), but since execs wanted 'Bee instead, they had to [[LeeroyJenkins comp]][[MotorMouth romise]]. And for all his charm, he has a ''lot'' of screentime and is intentionally annoying.


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* HarsherInHindsight: When Mojo pees on Ironhide, the latter worries about rusting. In ''[[TransformersDarkOfTheMoon Dark of the Moon]]'' [[spoiler: this is what happens to him as he dies.]]
23rd Jul '17 12:37:28 AM flamemario12
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** When toylines are released which makes the better figure/gives the better paint job: Hasbro or Takara?
*** Adding onto that, many opinions, both positive and negative, of the color scheme or toy designs seem to heavily depend if they're "[[NostalgiaFilter G1-Accurate]]."

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** When toylines are released which makes the better figure/gives the better paint job: Hasbro or Takara?
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Takara? Adding onto that, many opinions, both positive and negative, of the color scheme or toy designs seem to heavily depend if they're "[[NostalgiaFilter G1-Accurate]]."



* CrackIsCheaper: The Masterpiece figures. Want a G1 cartoon-accurate Soundwave or Megatron? Prepare to plonk down upwards of 100 bucks then! The third-party masterpieces aren't any cheaper too, mind you- often more expensive, actually. The "Takasa Tony" bootlegs are cheaper, though it often leads to legal or moral arguments over buying knockoffs amongst the fandom.
* CreatorsPet: Kicker.

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* CrackIsCheaper: The Masterpiece figures. Want a G1 cartoon-accurate Soundwave or Megatron? Prepare to plonk down upwards of 100 bucks then! The third-party masterpieces aren't any cheaper too, mind you- often more expensive, actually. The "Takasa Tony" bootlegs are cheaper, though it often leads to legal or moral arguments over buying knockoffs amongst the fandom.
* CreatorsPet: Kicker.



*** ''WesternAnimation/TransformersRescueBots'' is filled with Bumblebee toys, including a large playset. Bumblebee only appears in three episodes as a guest.
*** A lot of fans are bemoaning the oversaturation of Bumblebee, and wishing [[Anime/TransformersArmada Hot Shot]] would make a comeback.
*** In fact, the creators of ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated Animated]]'' vyed for Hot Shot (in a main role, at least), but since execs wanted 'Bee instead, they had to [[LeeroyJenkins comp]][[MotorMouth romise]]. And for all his charm, he has a ''lot'' of screentime and is intentionally annoying.

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*** ''WesternAnimation/TransformersRescueBots'' is filled with Bumblebee toys, including a large playset. Bumblebee only appears in three episodes as a guest.
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guest. A lot of fans are bemoaning the oversaturation of Bumblebee, and wishing [[Anime/TransformersArmada Hot Shot]] would make a comeback.
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comeback. In fact, the creators of ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated Animated]]'' vyed for Hot Shot (in a main role, at least), but since execs wanted 'Bee instead, they had to [[LeeroyJenkins comp]][[MotorMouth romise]]. And for all his charm, he has a ''lot'' of screentime and is intentionally annoying.



* CreatorsFavorite: Simon Furman had Thunderwing and Bludgeon. He managed to revamp two characters from the Pretender line into legitimate fan favorite powerhouses. Even as the rest of the line fell to obscurity these two survived on and continued playing major roles in future fiction, with Furman himself happily bringing them back for more roles in his stories.



* TheScrappy: Bumblebee in recent continuities (from 2007 onwards) is starting to develop into this, due to becoming a CreatorsPet. His less than flattering portrayal in ''Robots In Disguise'' under John Barber's pen isn't exactly helping this.
** Humans (with a few exceptions) tend to be this for those that [[{{JustHereForGodzilla}} only want to see transforming robots fighting each other]].
*** UpToEleven if the human in question is a UngratefulBastard.
3rd Jul '17 7:34:37 PM Labmit
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*** UpToEleven if the humans in question are UngratefulBastards.

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*** UpToEleven if the humans human in question are UngratefulBastards.is a UngratefulBastard.
3rd Jul '17 7:30:54 PM Labmit
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** Humans (with a few exceptions) tend to be this for those that [[{{JustHereForGodzilla}} only want to see transforming robots fighting each other]].
***UpToEleven if the humans in question are UngratefulBastards.
23rd Jun '17 9:39:08 PM HamburgerTime
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** The "Ask Vector Prime" feature, which ran on the official Website/{{Facebook}} page from April 2015 to February 2016. The feature allowed fans to ask questions of writer Jim Sorenson, in-character as GuardianOfTheMultiverse Vector Prime, with the answers becoming part of official ''Transformers'' canon. Fans are split on if it was a clever way to resolve mysteries that likely would have no answers otherwise (like the names and fates of minor characters) or a sad excuse for fans to add their own FanWank to canon by adding leading questions of Vector Prime.

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** The "Ask Vector Prime" feature, which ran on the official Website/{{Facebook}} page from April 2015 to February 2016. The feature allowed fans to ask questions of writer Jim Sorenson, in-character as GuardianOfTheMultiverse Vector Prime, with the answers becoming part of official ''Transformers'' canon. Fans are split on if it was a clever way to resolve mysteries that likely would have no answers otherwise (like the names and fates of minor characters) or a sad excuse for fans to add their own FanWank to canon by adding asking leading questions of Vector Prime.Prime. In particular, a large edit war erupted on Wiki/TFWikiDotNet when Vector Prime was asked a series of questions that resulted in ''WesternAnimation/ChallengeOfTheGoBots'' (an old competitor of the Transformers brand that it later bought out) being officially added to ''Transformers'' canon, and how the Wiki should address this.
23rd Jun '17 6:56:45 AM Larkmarn
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** Alpha Bravo, Offroad, and Rook. Many fans see them as [[ReplacementScrappy Replacement Scrappies]] for Slingshot, Wildrider, and Groove of the Aerialbots, Stunticons, and Protectobots respectively while others believe that they bring variety to the teams in Alpha Bravo and Offroad's case.[[note]]Being the sole helicopter on a team of jets and the 2nd truck on a team of (mostly) cars respectively.[[/note]] In Rook's case, many of his defenders state that it is more logical for a [=SWAT=] vehicle than a motorcycle (that has to be made larger) to make up a limb of a gestalt, despite not usually being a problem otherwise. Further, unlike Alpha Bravo and Offroad, Rook only replaces a limb, as Groove is still on the team, just relegated to a chest piece.
*** While this is averted with the Combiner Wars version of the Combaticons, many fans are not happy with Blastoff's appearance as a retool of Firefly instead of his iconic appearance as a space shuttle. Others argue that his new appearance is more practical for someone who is part of the ''Combat''icons, again, despite not being an issue otherwise.
*** Even if some fans don't mind Blastoff's alt-mode, others have found contention with the use of Slingshot's head instead of Firefly's despite the two of them being mold mates and Firefly's head being closer to Blastoff's in appearance.

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** Alpha Bravo, Offroad, and Rook. Many fans see them as [[ReplacementScrappy Replacement Scrappies]] for Slingshot, Wildrider, and Groove of the Aerialbots, Stunticons, and Protectobots respectively while others believe that they bring variety to the teams in Alpha Bravo and Offroad's case.[[note]]Being the sole helicopter on a team of jets and the 2nd truck on a team of (mostly) cars respectively.[[/note]] In Rook's case, many of his defenders state that it is more logical for a [=SWAT=] vehicle than a motorcycle (that has to be made larger) to make up a limb of a gestalt, despite not usually being a problem otherwise. Further, unlike Alpha Bravo and Offroad, Rook only replaces a limb, as Groove is still on the team, just relegated to a chest piece.
piece. Not to mention Rook is considered one of the best Combiner Wars molds in his own right.
*** While this is averted with the Combiner Wars version of the Combaticons, many fans are not happy with Blastoff's Blast Off's appearance as a retool redeco of Firefly Quickslinger (aka Slingshot) instead of his iconic appearance as a space shuttle.shuttle and that the low-flying AV-8B Harrier jet in particular is a poor fit for the character, since his entire personality and name is about being physically and in his mind metaphorically above other robots. Others argue that his new appearance is more practical for someone who is part of the ''Combat''icons, again, despite not being an issue otherwise.
*** Even if some fans don't mind Blastoff's Blast Off's alt-mode, others have found contention with the use of Slingshot's head instead of Firefly's despite the two of them being mold mates and Firefly's head being closer to Blastoff's in appearance.appearance due to having a mouthplate. Others think the Quickslinger's visor is a better approximation of Blast Off's visor, and that is the more important feature.


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** The Masterpiece line has created a few major broken bases:
*** The first is MP-01 Optimus Prime vs. MP-10 Optimus Prime. Proponents of MP-01 consider it the best Transformer ever, loaded with gimmicks, articulation, and a great deal of die-cast giving it a fantastic heft. Those that like MP-10 more think MP-01 is overrated, the die-cast detracts from the figure, its alt-mode is terrible, and MP-10's proportions are better.
*** Beginning with MP-27 Ironhide, Takara's design philosophy on Masterpieces have torn the fandom asunder. Basically, Takara has begun making the figures look as animation-accurate as possible. While you wouldn't think that this would be contentious, detractors lament the fact that in doing so they make the figures look flat and dull, with large portions of completely undetailed plastic. Others like the "straight from the screen" look.
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