History YMMV / Transformers

23rd Jun '17 9:39:08 PM HamburgerTime
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** The "Ask Vector Prime" feature, which ran on the official Website/{{Facebook}} page from April 2015 to February 2016. The feature allowed fans to ask questions of writer Jim Sorenson, in-character as GuardianOfTheMultiverse Vector Prime, with the answers becoming part of official ''Transformers'' canon. Fans are split on if it was a clever way to resolve mysteries that likely would have no answers otherwise (like the names and fates of minor characters) or a sad excuse for fans to add their own FanWank to canon by adding leading questions of Vector Prime.

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** The "Ask Vector Prime" feature, which ran on the official Website/{{Facebook}} page from April 2015 to February 2016. The feature allowed fans to ask questions of writer Jim Sorenson, in-character as GuardianOfTheMultiverse Vector Prime, with the answers becoming part of official ''Transformers'' canon. Fans are split on if it was a clever way to resolve mysteries that likely would have no answers otherwise (like the names and fates of minor characters) or a sad excuse for fans to add their own FanWank to canon by adding asking leading questions of Vector Prime.Prime. In particular, a large edit war erupted on Wiki/TFWikiDotNet when Vector Prime was asked a series of questions that resulted in ''WesternAnimation/ChallengeOfTheGoBots'' (an old competitor of the Transformers brand that it later bought out) being officially added to ''Transformers'' canon, and how the Wiki should address this.
23rd Jun '17 6:56:45 AM Larkmarn
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** Alpha Bravo, Offroad, and Rook. Many fans see them as [[ReplacementScrappy Replacement Scrappies]] for Slingshot, Wildrider, and Groove of the Aerialbots, Stunticons, and Protectobots respectively while others believe that they bring variety to the teams in Alpha Bravo and Offroad's case.[[note]]Being the sole helicopter on a team of jets and the 2nd truck on a team of (mostly) cars respectively.[[/note]] In Rook's case, many of his defenders state that it is more logical for a [=SWAT=] vehicle than a motorcycle (that has to be made larger) to make up a limb of a gestalt, despite not usually being a problem otherwise. Further, unlike Alpha Bravo and Offroad, Rook only replaces a limb, as Groove is still on the team, just relegated to a chest piece.
*** While this is averted with the Combiner Wars version of the Combaticons, many fans are not happy with Blastoff's appearance as a retool of Firefly instead of his iconic appearance as a space shuttle. Others argue that his new appearance is more practical for someone who is part of the ''Combat''icons, again, despite not being an issue otherwise.
*** Even if some fans don't mind Blastoff's alt-mode, others have found contention with the use of Slingshot's head instead of Firefly's despite the two of them being mold mates and Firefly's head being closer to Blastoff's in appearance.

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** Alpha Bravo, Offroad, and Rook. Many fans see them as [[ReplacementScrappy Replacement Scrappies]] for Slingshot, Wildrider, and Groove of the Aerialbots, Stunticons, and Protectobots respectively while others believe that they bring variety to the teams in Alpha Bravo and Offroad's case.[[note]]Being the sole helicopter on a team of jets and the 2nd truck on a team of (mostly) cars respectively.[[/note]] In Rook's case, many of his defenders state that it is more logical for a [=SWAT=] vehicle than a motorcycle (that has to be made larger) to make up a limb of a gestalt, despite not usually being a problem otherwise. Further, unlike Alpha Bravo and Offroad, Rook only replaces a limb, as Groove is still on the team, just relegated to a chest piece.
piece. Not to mention Rook is considered one of the best Combiner Wars molds in his own right.
*** While this is averted with the Combiner Wars version of the Combaticons, many fans are not happy with Blastoff's Blast Off's appearance as a retool redeco of Firefly Quickslinger (aka Slingshot) instead of his iconic appearance as a space shuttle.shuttle and that the low-flying AV-8B Harrier jet in particular is a poor fit for the character, since his entire personality and name is about being physically and in his mind metaphorically above other robots. Others argue that his new appearance is more practical for someone who is part of the ''Combat''icons, again, despite not being an issue otherwise.
*** Even if some fans don't mind Blastoff's Blast Off's alt-mode, others have found contention with the use of Slingshot's head instead of Firefly's despite the two of them being mold mates and Firefly's head being closer to Blastoff's in appearance.appearance due to having a mouthplate. Others think the Quickslinger's visor is a better approximation of Blast Off's visor, and that is the more important feature.


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** The Masterpiece line has created a few major broken bases:
*** The first is MP-01 Optimus Prime vs. MP-10 Optimus Prime. Proponents of MP-01 consider it the best Transformer ever, loaded with gimmicks, articulation, and a great deal of die-cast giving it a fantastic heft. Those that like MP-10 more think MP-01 is overrated, the die-cast detracts from the figure, its alt-mode is terrible, and MP-10's proportions are better.
*** Beginning with MP-27 Ironhide, Takara's design philosophy on Masterpieces have torn the fandom asunder. Basically, Takara has begun making the figures look as animation-accurate as possible. While you wouldn't think that this would be contentious, detractors lament the fact that in doing so they make the figures look flat and dull, with large portions of completely undetailed plastic. Others like the "straight from the screen" look.
14th May '17 3:58:07 PM nombretomado
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** In the ''TransformersWarForCybertron'' continuity, Megatron was initially a gladiator who rebelled against an oppressive, caste-based society ruled by the Autobots, so initially it was the Autobots themselves who were the Empire and you should have rooted against. But Megatron became too prideful and ruthless, to the point his ideal of a caste-less society was buried by his desire to rule. Transformers seems to have been moving over the years from "Decepticons evil, Autobots good" to an almost ''StarWars''-like setup, where Cybertronian society badly needed shaking up but the Cons went too far and the necessities of war turned the Autobots into the casteless society the Decepticons wanted, while the Decepticons [[TheDarkSideWillMakeYouForget became too obsessed to remember their original intentions]].

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** In the ''TransformersWarForCybertron'' ''VideoGame/TransformersWarForCybertron'' continuity, Megatron was initially a gladiator who rebelled against an oppressive, caste-based society ruled by the Autobots, so initially it was the Autobots themselves who were the Empire and you should have rooted against. But Megatron became too prideful and ruthless, to the point his ideal of a caste-less society was buried by his desire to rule. Transformers seems to have been moving over the years from "Decepticons evil, Autobots good" to an almost ''StarWars''-like setup, where Cybertronian society badly needed shaking up but the Cons went too far and the necessities of war turned the Autobots into the casteless society the Decepticons wanted, while the Decepticons [[TheDarkSideWillMakeYouForget became too obsessed to remember their original intentions]].
6th May '17 12:00:31 PM nombretomado
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*** In fact, the creators of ''[[TransformersAnimated Animated]]'' vyed for Hot Shot (in a main role, at least), but since execs wanted 'Bee instead, they had to [[LeeroyJenkins comp]][[MotorMouth romise]]. And for all his charm, he has a ''lot'' of screentime and is intentionally annoying.

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*** In fact, the creators of ''[[TransformersAnimated ''[[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated Animated]]'' vyed for Hot Shot (in a main role, at least), but since execs wanted 'Bee instead, they had to [[LeeroyJenkins comp]][[MotorMouth romise]]. And for all his charm, he has a ''lot'' of screentime and is intentionally annoying.



** Given a bit more weight in ''TransformersAnimated'' in which the ''Autobots'' are the ruling empire led by someone who's just a bit too willing to do bad things to achieve victory for comfort while the Decepticons are the scrappy rebels, albeit vicious and ruthless ones.

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** Given a bit more weight in ''TransformersAnimated'' ''WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated'' in which the ''Autobots'' are the ruling empire led by someone who's just a bit too willing to do bad things to achieve victory for comfort while the Decepticons are the scrappy rebels, albeit vicious and ruthless ones.
14th Mar '17 4:04:18 AM Killerikala
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Some have noted that Warpath would perfectly fit into the live-action films, due to his love of explosions and action.
23rd Dec '16 12:57:48 PM datadoggieein
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** TropesAreTools: ...and created a well-loved and more memorable franchise the later went on to produce it own toys.
10th Dec '16 11:06:50 PM DrPsyche
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** The Classics Seeker Mold. When the Classics launched to Fan acclaim, the Classics Seeker mold was considered the de-facto mold for the Seekers, updating the animation models with modern technology to produce Starscream and the rest of his posse, the retools even giving the Coneheads accurate functional toys. However now fans question if the mold has been overused (and also prone to producing more easily broken figures as is the unfortunate fate of molds kept in circulation for long periods of time), and if it should be ditched in favor of the more articulate and sleeker Fall of Cybertron Seeker mold (a design that's also divisive). Such debate has been put to rest with the retiring of the mold come Nacelle and the G2 Starscream.

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** The Classics Seeker Mold. When the Classics launched to Fan acclaim, the Classics Seeker mold was considered the de-facto mold for the Seekers, updating the animation models with modern technology to produce Starscream and the rest of his posse, the retools even giving the Coneheads accurate functional toys. However now fans question if the mold has been overused overused; with Hasbro churning out figure after figure of obscure Seekers or special edition Starscreams (and also prone to producing more easily broken figures as is the unfortunate fate of molds kept in circulation for long periods of time), and if it should be ditched in favor of the more articulate and sleeker Fall of Cybertron Seeker mold (a design that's also divisive). Such debate has been put to rest with not getting into the retiring accusations of mold degradation from repeated uses). While the mold come Nacelle and was eventually retired fans are split between the G2 Starscream.argument over whether it was one of the best uses of a mold with so many G1 accurate figures from it, or whether it was an overdone mold who's age shows in its mid 2000s tooling.
6th Dec '16 12:52:57 AM DrPsyche
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** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: His portrayal in ''[[TheTransformersDarkCybertron Dark Cybertron]]'', however, is better received for [[spoiler:being called out by Prowl, the Dinobots, and Soundwave over [[TakeThatScrappy his incompetent leadership]] back in [[ComicBook/TheTransformersRobotsInDisguise RID]], [[TookALevelInBadass Taking A Level In Badass]], and [[MoralityPet his involvement]] in Megatron's [[HeelFaceTurn change of heart]]. Too bad [[AlasPoorScrappy he gets killed off]] in the end.]]
6th Dec '16 12:50:59 AM DrPsyche
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** Simon Furman has Grimlock, Thunderwing and Bludgeon.
*** While there are more than a few who complain about how he overuses Big Grim, few seem to have any problem with Furman's take on Thunderwing. And as for Bludgeon? The guy's a friggin' EnsembleDarkHorse, proving that even [[CreatorsPet Creators' Pets]] [[TropesAreNotBad don't have to suck]].

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** Simon Furman has Grimlock, Thunderwing As the franchise marches on many start to view Grimlock as one, feeling he's overused, overpowered, and Bludgeon.
*** While there are more than a few who complain about how he overuses Big Grim, few seem
overhyped. They feel his stories just involve "Grimlock shows up and beats up everyone to have any problem with Furman's take on Thunderwing. And as for Bludgeon? The guy's be a friggin' EnsembleDarkHorse, proving that even [[CreatorsPet Creators' Pets]] [[TropesAreNotBad don't have to suck]].badass" and prefer his less powerful incarnations.


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* CreatorsFavorite: Simon Furman had Thunderwing and Bludgeon. He managed to revamp two characters from the Pretender line into legitimate fan favorite powerhouses. Even as the rest of the line fell to obscurity these two survived on and continued playing major roles in future fiction, with Furman himself happily bringing them back for more roles in his stories.
2nd Dec '16 3:30:54 PM MasterHero
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* SacredCow: Optimus, as an icon of popular culture since TheEighties. Many of his fans strongly believe that he's a universally-loved character, and will adamantly defend him from outright criticism.
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