History YMMV / TheMuppetsTakeManhattan

** Rowlf ''literally'' getting PutOnABus. After Jim Henson's death it was almost a decade before Rowlf so much as spoke again, and ''another'' decade before he started getting actual roles again.
** A sad, forlorn Fozzie making a lonely exodus on his own, clearly missing Kermit terribly, almost seems to mirror Frank Oz's inexorable drift away from the Muppets to focus on his directing work after losing his best friend Jim.

* OlderThanTheyThink: After ''Film/TheMuppets'' came out in 2011 there was a lot of debate about "depressed Kermit" and whether the character had become more downbeat in the post-Jim Henson era. It was even cited as a factor in Steve Whitmire's dismissal from the Muppet organization in 2016. But Kermit is quite glum and pessimistic for much of this film, especially the famous meltdown scene where he yells at the other Muppets.
* RetroactiveRecognition: Gates [=McFadden=], who at the time was much more a dancer and choreographer than an actress. That would change, of course, with ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration''.

* AwesomeMusic: Every musical note in the film. Extra points for getting a Broadway orchestrator, Ralph Burns, to score the film...

* OlderThanTheyThink: After ''Film/TheMuppets'' came out in 2011 there was a lot of debate about "depressed Kermit" and whether the character had become more downbeat in the post-Jim Henson era. It was even cited as a factor in Steve Whitmire getting fired from the Muppets in 2016. But Kermit is quite glum and pessimistic for much of this film, especially the famous meltdown scene where he yells at the other Muppets.

* OlderThanTheyThink: After ''Film/TheMuppets'' came out in 2011 there was a lot of debate about "depressed Kermit" and whether the character had become more downbeat in the post-Jim Henson era. It was even cited as a factor in Steve Whitmire getting fired from the Muppet organization in 2017. But Kermit is quite glum and pessimistic for much of this film, especially the famous meltdown scene where he yells at the other Muppets.

** Kermit apologized for snapping at them and hoping to put it behind them, but by that point they unanimously decided to go their separate ways.

*** This is because Rowlf was both Jim Henson's first Muppet as well as his favorite.

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: "Gonna Always Love You". Piggy wonders, out of nowhere, what things would have been like if she and Kermit had known each other ever since they were little... cue an ImagineSpot featuring an entire musical number sung by, well, Muppet babies. When Piggy is snapped out of her imaginings, it never comes up again. As cute and adorable as it is, its existence makes very little sense except as a PoorlyDisguisedPilot for ''WesternAnimation/MuppetBabies''.

*** And of course there's ''Theatre/AvenueQ''.

* HilariousInHindsight: "Those producers looked at us like we were from outer space!", says Scooter. Several years later, we find out that [[Film/MuppetsFromSpace Gonzo IS]].

* BrokenBase: Although the film is well-liked among many Muppet fans, there are also some who feel it's one of the weaker installments due to most of the cast being OutOfFocus.

** [[{{Ratatouille}} The fact that the rats are working at a diner]].

** Also, by their part in the song, Gonzo and Camilla have already separated from their group of longtime friends and are by themselves. As it turns out, Dave Goelz and Jerry Nelson would be the last of the pre-''[[Series/TheMuppetShow Muppet Show]]'' performers to stick with the group (until Nelson's semi-retirement in 2004).

* EnsembleDarkhorse / OneSceneWonder: The song with the Baby versions of the Muppets was such a hit it lead to the [[WesternAnimation/MuppetBabies cartoon]].

* HilariousInHindsight: "Those producers looked at us like we were from outer space!", says Scooter. Several years later, we find out that [[MuppetsFromSpace Gonzo IS]].

** Also, by their part in the song, Gonzo and Camilla have already separated from their group of longtime friends and are by themselves. As it turns out, Dave Goelz and Jerry Nelson would be the last of the pre-''[[Series/TheMuppetShow Muppet Show]]'' performers to stick with the group (until Nelson's retirement in 2004).

** Also, by their part in the song, Gonzo and Camilla have already separated from their group of longtime friends and are by themselves. As it turns out, Dave Goelz and Jerry Nelson would be the last of the pre-''[[TheMuppetShow Muppet Show]]'' performers to stick with the group (until Nelson's retirement in 2004).

* HarsherInHindsight: In "Saying Goodbye," Scooter hugs Rowlf and Fozzie goodbye before going off on his own. Scooter was the signature character of Richard Hunt, who would be the first of the major Muppet performers to pass away. The fact that he's hugging two signature characters of JimHenson and Frank Oz (who would later say goodbye by passing away and retiring from Muppets, respectively) makes it sadder.
** Also, by their part in the song, Gonzo and Camilla have already separated from their group of longtime friends and are by themselves. Turned out to be prophetic, as Dave Goelz and Jerry Nelson would be the last of the pre-''[[TheMuppetShow Muppet Show]]'' performers to continue on (though Nelson would formally retire in the late-2000s).

** Steve Whitmire as the Baby Kermit puppet.

** HarsherInHindsight: Jim Henson and Richard Hunt both perform in the song.
*** Well, yeah, but give it 70 more years and (actuarily speaking) everyone involved with the entire movie will be dead. This sort of thing ''always'' becomes HarsherInHindsight ''eventually.''