History YMMV / TheMuppetsTakeManhattan

* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Kermit and Piggy's wedding real, or just part of the play? The [[BrokenBase flame wars that have raged over this]]... The official answer from WordOfGod is that [[TakeAThirdOption it's a bit of both]], with Kermit intending it to just be part of the play, while Miss Piggy attempted to hijack it and turn it into a real wedding by using a real minister behind Kermit's back, which is a big part for why the two are estranged in ''Film/TheMuppets2011''

* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Was Kermit and Piggy's wedding real, or just part of the play? The flame wars that have raged over this...

*** And of course there's ''Theatre/AvenueQ''.[[note]]A DeconstructiveParody of Series/SesameStreet that was created specifically for older viewers.[[/note]]

*** Don't forget the similarly-named Phil Phillips from ''Film/TheHappytimeMurders''.

** After ''Film/TheMuppets'' came out in 2011 there was a lot of debate about "depressed Kermit" and whether the character had become more downbeat in the post-Creator/JimHenson era. It was even cited as a factor in Steve Whitmire's dismissal from the Muppet organization in 2016. But Kermit is quite glum and pessimistic for much of this film, especially the famous meltdown scene where he yells at the other Muppets.

* {{Sequelitis}}: Although the film is generally well-liked, there are also some Muppet fans who feel it's one of the weaker installments due to most of the cast being OutOfFocus and the realistic, un-Muppet-like tone. Even fans who like it still think ''The Muppet Movie'' was a case of FirstInstallmentWins, and that ''The Great Muppet Caper'' was more ambitious.

* OlderThanTheyThink: After ''Film/TheMuppets'' came out in 2011 there was a lot of debate about "depressed Kermit" and whether the character had become more downbeat in the post-Creator/JimHenson era. It was even cited as a factor in Steve Whitmire's dismissal from the Muppet organization in 2016. But Kermit is quite glum and pessimistic for much of this film, especially the famous meltdown scene where he yells at the other Muppets.

* {{Sequelitis}}: Although the film is generally well-liked, there are also some Muppet fans who feel it's one of the weaker installments due to most of the cast being OutOfFocus and the very sombre, un-Muppet tone. Even among fans who liked it more, it is near-universally considered inferior to the first two installments.

* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Was Kermit and Piggy's wedding real, or just part of the play? The flame wars that have raged over this...

* ContestedSequel: Although the film is well-liked, there are also some Muppet fans who feel it's one of the weaker installments due to most of the cast being OutOfFocus and the very sombre, un-Muppet tone.
* EnsembleDarkhorse / OneSceneWonder: The song with the Baby versions of the Muppets was such a hit it led to the [[WesternAnimation/MuppetBabies1984 cartoon]].

* TearJerker: "Saying Goodbye". Just...all of it. From the soft, acoustic music to the shots of Muppets hugging and leaving on various modes of transport. Sure, they reunite later, but the montage really makes you worried that, even if it was for their own good for now, the Muppets are split forever, maybe never meeting each other again. And don't get us started on the lyrics, which includes such [[SarcasmMode lovely gems]] as:
--> ''Saying goodbye; why is it sad?\\
Makes us remember the good times we've had\\
Much more to say; foolish to try\\
It's time for saying goodbye''
** And:
--> ''Somehow, I know we'll meet again\\
Not sure quite where, and I don't know just when\\
You're in my heart, so until then\\
Wanna smile, wanna cry\\
Saying goodbye...''
** The first three lines of the latter verse are sung twice: first by Rowlf and Floyd in an uncertain but optimistic tone, hoping that one day, they'll be able to reunite with their friends. The second is sung by Fozzie, and from the tone of his voice, he's almost ''praying'' he can come back to Kermit, and is clearly missing his longtime friends as he's now stuck on his own journey away from Manhattan.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m890FFwO0aY "He'll Make Me Happy"]]. Just try to keep your eyes dry.
** Kermit apologized for snapping at them and hoping to put it behind them, but by that point they unanimously decided to go their separate ways thinking it's for the best.
** When the Muppets go their separate ways, they are so miserable without each other and stuck at their lousy jobs. For explanation, Fozzie is hibernating in Maine with other, bigger bears; Rowlf is working at a pet shop; The Electric Mayhem is playing polka in Pittsburgh; Scooter is a movie theater usher selling popcorn ([[Film/TheMuppetMovie it seems he really]] [[Film/TheGreatMuppetCaper likes doing that]]), and Gonzo is performing stunts with several chickens in Michigan. Their happiness (and relief) at the news that Kermit has finally found someone willing to put their musical on Broadway is, to say the least, not an act!

*** The first three lines of the latter verse are sung twice: first by Rowlf and Floyd in an uncertain but optimistic tone, hoping that one day, they'll be able to reunite with their friends. The second is sung by Fozzie, and from the tone of his voice, he's almost ''praying'' he can come back to Kermit, and is clearly missing his longtime friends as he's now stuck on his own journey away from Manhattan.

* And:

** When the Muppets go their separate ways, they are so miserable without each other and stuck at their lousy jobs. For explanation, Fozzie is hibernating in Maine with other, bigger bears; Rowlf is working at a pet shop; The Electric Mayhem is [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal playing polka in Pittsburgh]]; Scooter is a movie theater usher selling popcorn ([[Film/TheMuppetMovie it seems he really]] [[Film/TheGreatMuppetCaper likes doing that]]), and Gonzo is performing stunts with several chickens in Michigan. Their happiness (and relief) at the news that Kermit has finally found someone willing to put their musical on Broadway is, to say the least, not an act!

--> Saying goodbye; why is it sad?\\

It's time for saying goodbye

--> Somehow, I know we'll meet again\\

Saying goodbye...

And:

* TearJerker: "Saying Goodbye"

** When the Muppets go their separate ways, they are so miserable without each other and stuck at their lousy jobs. For explanation, Fozzie is hibernating in Maine with other, bigger bears; Rowlf is working at a pet shop; The Electric Mayhem is [[AddedAlliterativeAppeal playing polka in Pittsburgh]]; Scooter is a movie theater usher selling popcorn ([[Film/TheMuppetMovie it seems he really]] [[Film/TheGreatMuppetCaper likes doing that]]), and Gonzo is performing stunts with several chickens in Michigan.

** When the Muppets go their separate ways, they are so miserable without each other and stuck at their lousy jobs. For explanation, Fozzie is hibernating in Maine with other, bigger bears; Rowlf is working at a pet shop; The Electric Mayhem is [[AlliterativeAppeal playing polka in Pittsburgh]]; Scooter is a movie theater usher selling popcorn ([[Film/TheMuppetMovie it seems he really]] [[Film/TheGreatMuppetCaper likes doing that]]), and Gonzo is performing stunts with several chickens in Michigan.

** When the Muppets go their separate ways, they are so miserable without each other and stuck at their lousy jobs.

** Scooter sings a whole verse by himself. After Richard Hunt died, Scooter made no notable performances for over a decade.

* BrokenBase: Although the film is well-liked, there are also some Muppet fans who feel it's one of the weaker installments due to most of the cast being OutOfFocus and the very sombre, un-Muppet tone.

* BrokenBase: Although the film is well-liked, there are also some Muppet fans who feel it's one of the weaker installments due to most of the cast being OutOfFocus.

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: "Gonna Always Love You". Piggy wonders, out of nowhere, what things would have been like if she and Kermit had known each other ever since they were little... cue an ImagineSpot featuring an entire musical number sung by, well, Muppet babies. When Piggy is snapped out of her imaginings, it never comes up again. As cute and adorable as it is, its existence makes very little sense except as a PoorlyDisguisedPilot for ''WesternAnimation/MuppetBabies'' (and even that wasn't actually why it was made, as the cartoon was created in direct response to how popular the scene was).

* EnsembleDarkhorse / OneSceneWonder: The song with the Baby versions of the Muppets was such a hit it led to the [[WesternAnimation/MuppetBabies cartoon]].