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* InvincibleHero: Now that he has the powers of The One, Neo is simply too overpowered for there to be much real tension in any action scene involving him. He ''opens'' the film effortlessly fighting off three Agents, and only shows off greater powers from there. The biggest action scene actually doesn't involve him at all, with the tension shifted to whether he can get there in time to save the day.



** The film insisted on acting like Bullet Time was still just as fresh and cool as it was in the first movie...while ignoring how [[DeadHorseTrope it had become a tired cliché]] in the years between ''The Matrix'' and ''Reloaded''.

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** The film insisted on acting like Bullet Time BulletTime was still just as fresh and cool as it was in the first movie...while ignoring how [[DeadHorseTrope it had become a tired cliché]] in the years between ''The Matrix'' and ''Reloaded''.



** For ''Series/{{Mystery Science Theater 3000}}'' fans, the agent Morpheus fights on the truck is Daniel Bernhardt, aka "Jean-Claude Gosh Darn" from ''Film/FutureWar''.

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** For ''Series/{{Mystery Science Theater 3000}}'' ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'' fans, the agent Morpheus fights on the truck is Daniel Bernhardt, aka "Jean-Claude Gosh Darn" from ''Film/FutureWar''.
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* BoringInvincibleHero: Now that he has the powers of The One, Neo is simply too overpowered for there to be much real tension in any action scene involving him. He ''opens'' the film effortlessly fighting off three Agents, and only shows off greater powers from there. The biggest action scene actually doesn't involve him at all, with the tension shifted to whether he can get there in time to save the day.


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* InvincibleHero: Now that he has the powers of The One, Neo is simply too overpowered for there to be much real tension in any action scene involving him. He ''opens'' the film effortlessly fighting off three Agents, and only shows off greater powers from there. The biggest action scene actually doesn't involve him at all, with the tension shifted to whether he can get there in time to save the day.

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* ContestedSequel: While it'
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* ContestedSequel: While it's action scenes such as the highway chase are highly praised, it's often debatable how well it holds up to the original film. With time however, this film's reception has dwindled.

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* HilariousInHindsight: The comparison between Neo and Superman become this now that [[WesternAnimation/TheLEGOBatmanMovie Agent Smith is a prisoner in the Phantom Zone]]. Also, Creator/LaurenceFishburne and Creator/HarryLennix were both in the FranchiseDCExtendedUniverse.

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* HilariousInHindsight: The comparison between Neo and Superman become this now that [[WesternAnimation/TheLEGOBatmanMovie Agent Smith is a prisoner in the Phantom Zone]]. Also, Creator/LaurenceFishburne and Creator/HarryLennix were both in the FranchiseDCExtendedUniverse.Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The comparison between Neo and Superman become this now that [[WesternAnimation/TheLEGOBatmanMovie Agent Smith is a prisoner in the Phantom Zone]]. Also, Creator/LaurenceFishburne and Creator/HarryLennix were both in ''Film/ManOfSteel''.

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* HilariousInHindsight: The comparison between Neo and Superman become this now that [[WesternAnimation/TheLEGOBatmanMovie Agent Smith is a prisoner in the Phantom Zone]]. Also, Creator/LaurenceFishburne and Creator/HarryLennix were both in ''Film/ManOfSteel''.the FranchiseDCExtendedUniverse.

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* RewatchBonus: People will never see the monitors the same way in the first film after [[spoiler:the Architect's appearance]].



** Morpheus when he learns [[spoiler:the prophecy was a lie]]. He doesn't want to accept it, but you can tell from his face that his entire world just came crashing down on him. Things get worse for him soon afterwards, as [[spoiler:he mourns the destruction of his ship]].

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** Morpheus when he learns [[spoiler:the prophecy was a lie]]. He doesn't want to accept it, but you can tell from his face that his entire world just came crashing down on him. Things get worse for him soon afterwards, as [[spoiler:he mourns the destruction of his ship]].ship]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: The comparison between Neo and Superman become this now that [[WesternAnimation/TheLEGOBatmanMovie Agent Smith is a prisoner in the Phantom Zone]]. Also, Creator/LaurenceFishburne and Creator/HenryLennix were both in ''Film/ManOfSteel''.

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* HilariousInHindsight: The comparison between Neo and Superman become this now that [[WesternAnimation/TheLEGOBatmanMovie Agent Smith is a prisoner in the Phantom Zone]]. Also, Creator/LaurenceFishburne and Creator/HenryLennix Creator/HarryLennix were both in ''Film/ManOfSteel''.
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* HilariousInHindsight: The comparison between Neo and Superman become this now that [[WesternAnimation/TheLEGOBatmanMovie Agent Smith is a prisoner in the Phantom Zone]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: The comparison between Neo and Superman become this now that [[WesternAnimation/TheLEGOBatmanMovie Agent Smith is a prisoner in the Phantom Zone]]. Also, Creator/LaurenceFishburne and Creator/HenryLennix were both in ''Film/ManOfSteel''.

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* SpoiledByTheFormat: According to the prophecy, the war will end when The One enters the door to the Source. Neo does that with about a half-hour left in the runtime, so first-time viewers are likely to expect things to go sideways. It was also known at the time of release that another movie had been shot back-to-back with this one.



* TheWoobie: Persephone, a beautiful and lonely woman stuck married to, in her own words, a "pompous prick" who treats her like crap and slips away from dinner to cheat on her with a random patron he likes the look of. And it's pretty heavily implied this isn't the first time he's done it.

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Persephone, a beautiful and lonely woman stuck married to, in her own words, a "pompous prick" who treats her like crap and slips away from dinner to cheat on her with a random patron he likes the look of. And it's pretty heavily implied this isn't the first time he's done it.it.
** Morpheus when he learns [[spoiler:the prophecy was a lie]]. He doesn't want to accept it, but you can tell from his face that his entire world just came crashing down on him. Things get worse for him soon afterwards, as [[spoiler:he mourns the destruction of his ship]].
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* VindicatedByHistory: Inverted. It was well-received by fans and critics during its initial release, and was financially successful enough that it held the title of the highest grossing R-rated film at the box office, until it was dethroned a year later by ''Film/ThePassionOfTheChrist'' and in 2016 by ''Film/{{Deadpool}}''. However, both critical and fan opinion soured after the release of ''[[Film/TheMatrixRevolutions Revolutions,]]'' and the general perception today is that both films are pretentious and bloated. Although ''[[Film/TheMatrixRevolutions Reloaded,]]'' is still considered the better of the two by a fair margin.

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* VindicatedByHistory: Inverted. It was well-received by fans and critics during its initial release, and was financially successful enough that it held the title of the highest grossing R-rated film at the box office, until it was dethroned a year later by ''Film/ThePassionOfTheChrist'' and in 2016 by ''Film/{{Deadpool}}''.''Film/{{Deadpool|2016}}''. However, both critical and fan opinion soured after the release of ''[[Film/TheMatrixRevolutions Revolutions,]]'' and the general perception today is that both films are pretentious and bloated. Although ''[[Film/TheMatrixRevolutions Reloaded,]]'' is still considered the better of the two by a fair margin.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Most of the hovercraft captains and crews given how they were KilledOffscreen. They were fairly interesting given their brief screen-tie and could have at least warranted a scene of their final battle (although that might have been more than the budget allowed for). It doesn't take much effort to hope that HesJustHiding! for some of them.
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** Persephone heavily implies that stories of creatures like werewolves and vampires come from old programs with unusual abilities and weaknesses. This seems like it is foreshadowing a major fight with such things, but nothing really comes from it. Once again, this idea was relegated to the video game ''Enter the Matrix'', where Niobe and Ghost fight vampires and werewolves in the Merovingian's mansion.

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** Persephone The Oracle heavily implies that stories of creatures like werewolves and vampires come from old programs with unusual abilities and weaknesses. This seems like it is foreshadowing a major fight with such things, but nothing really comes from it. Once again, this idea was relegated to the video game ''Enter the Matrix'', where Niobe and Ghost fight vampires and werewolves in the Merovingian's mansion.

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** Neo dominating them is hardly badass decay. He's the One; look how effortlessly he beats Smith up at the end of the first movie. If anything he has a much harder time fighting them than he should have. Morpheus and Trinity is fair enough.
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**Neo dominating them is hardly badass decay. He's the One; look how effortlessly he beats Smith up at the end of the first movie. If anything he has a much harder time fighting them than he should have. Morpheus and Trinity is fair enough.
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* FanService or FetishRetardant: The rave/sex scene. The humans are variously dirty and sweaty as they dance in a highly sexual manner, and we see Neo and Trinity having sex with the plugs on their bodies in full view as they do so. May only appeal to a subset of the population.

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* FanService or FetishRetardant: The rave/sex scene. The humans are variously dirty and sweaty as they dance in a highly sexual manner, and we see Neo and Trinity having sex with the plugs on their bodies in full view as they do so. May only appeal to a subset of the population.
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* Fanservice or FetishRetardant: The rave/sex scene. The humans are variously dirty and sweaty as they dance in a highly sexual manner, and we see Neo and Trinity having sex with the plugs on their bodies in full view as they do so. May only appeal to a subset of the population.

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* Fanservice FanService or FetishRetardant: The rave/sex scene. The humans are variously dirty and sweaty as they dance in a highly sexual manner, and we see Neo and Trinity having sex with the plugs on their bodies in full view as they do so. May only appeal to a subset of the population.
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* FetishRetardant: The rave/sex scene. The humans are variously dirty and sweaty as they dance in a highly sexual manner, and we see Neo and Trinity having sex with the plugs on their bodies in full view as they do so. Odds are no one is going to be aroused by this.

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* Fanservice or FetishRetardant: The rave/sex scene. The humans are variously dirty and sweaty as they dance in a highly sexual manner, and we see Neo and Trinity having sex with the plugs on their bodies in full view as they do so. Odds are no one is going May only appeal to be aroused by this.a subset of the population.
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* NightmareFuel: "There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept." Zion has always been in danger, but this is the first time it becomes clear that the ''entire'' human race has no secure stake in this world, and its continued existence has hung on the mercy of the Machines.

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* NightmareFuel: TheReveal that the machines have destroyed Zion repeatedly in the past, and it only exists as a BatmanGambit to bring those who deny the Matrix together, and the machines can periodically get rid of them once their numbers get too great. And if Neo doesn't comply with this cycle, the Matrix will be destroyed too, destroying the ''entire'' human race. When Neo claims they need humans to survive and wouldn't let that happen, the Arcitect coldly tells him "There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept." This scene turns the franchise on its head -- there was never really a war. Zion has always been in danger, but this is and the first rebellion only exists because Zion allows it to, they have the full capacity to wipe it out any time it becomes clear that the ''entire'' human race has no secure stake in this world, they want, and its continued existence has hung on the it's only by their mercy of the Machines.that our species is allowed to exist as a fuel for them, and even then they see us as expendible if we don't get in line.
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** Persephone heavily implies that stories of creatures like werewolves and vampires come from old programs with unusual abilities and weaknesses. This seems like it is foreshadowing a major fight with such things, but nothing really comes from it.

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** Persephone heavily implies that stories of creatures like werewolves and vampires come from old programs with unusual abilities and weaknesses. This seems like it is foreshadowing a major fight with such things, but nothing really comes from it. Once again, this idea was relegated to the video game ''Enter the Matrix'', where Niobe and Ghost fight vampires and werewolves in the Merovingian's mansion.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The rave scene. Almost five minutes of highly sexually suggestive dancing intercut with Neo and Trinity having sex. And it serves no purpose whatsoever. Though given that the film runs on RuleOfSymbolism, it likely symbolized freedom of sexuality and life.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The rave scene. Almost five Several minutes of highly sexually suggestive dancing intercut with Neo and Trinity having sex. And it serves no purpose whatsoever. Though given that It has little plot relevance except to show the film runs on RuleOfSymbolism, it likely symbolized freedom human vitality of sexuality Zion and life.characterize it as something worth saving.



** Not enough time is given to Smith!Bane, even though it's his first time in the real world and he's become the thing he despises. It would have been interesting to see Smith!Bane's reactions to a real body; you can see a little bit when he's staring at his own cut hand.

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** Not enough time is given to Smith!Bane, Smith as Bane, even though it's his first time in the real world and he's become the thing he despises. It would have been interesting to see Smith!Bane's his reactions to a real body; you can see a little bit when he's staring at his own cut hand.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Although it was used in the film very briefly, Rob Dougan's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qWePX39R40&t=92s "Furious Angels"]]. While not as well known as his other contribution to ''The Matrix'', "Clubbed to Death", it's still a ''super'' badass song.
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Despite it having literally nothing in common with any other plot points? This is stretching, seriously. And there are other things happening in the movie, the Smith v. Neo fight scene is not the whole point.


* SlowPacedBeginning: The battle between Smith and Neo doesn't start until forty minutes later.



* SpiritualAdaptation: Seen by some people as a live-action version of ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'' thanks to the usage of magical doors and keys that are important to the plot.
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* SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound: The Architect's voice.
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* MostWonderfulSound: The Architect's voice.

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* MostWonderfulSound: SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound: The Architect's voice.


* HypeBacklash: The first one was so beloved that everyone got pumped up for the sequels, everything was hyped to hell and back... and when ''[[Film/TheMatrixReloaded Reloaded]]'' came up, it made loads of cash but left many disappointed. (So much that ''[[Film/TheMatrixRevolutions Revolutions]]'' couldn't even match the first film's box office.)
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* ContestedSequel: While it's action scenes such as the highway chase are high praised, it's often debatable how well it holds up to the original film. With time however, this film's reception has dwindled.

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* ContestedSequel: While it's action scenes such as the highway chase are high highly praised, it's often debatable how well it holds up to the original film. With time however, this film's reception has dwindled.
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* ContestedSequel: ''[[Film/TheMatrixReloaded Reloaded]]'' and ''[[Film/TheMatrixRevolutions Revolutions]]'' probably count as the second greatest examples after the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels.

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* ContestedSequel: ''[[Film/TheMatrixReloaded Reloaded]]'' and ''[[Film/TheMatrixRevolutions Revolutions]]'' probably count While it's action scenes such as the second greatest examples after highway chase are high praised, it's often debatable how well it holds up to the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels.original film. With time however, this film's reception has dwindled.
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** Had the trilogy come out ten years later, there would be a lot of jokes about Smith singing [[Series/LazyTown "We Are Number One" to his clones.]]
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* HypeBacklash: The first one was so beloved that everyone got pumped up for the sequels, everything was hyped to hell and back... and when ''Reloaded'' came up, it made loads of cash but left many disappointed. (So much that ''Revolutions'' couldn't even match the first film's box office.)

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* HypeBacklash: The first one was so beloved that everyone got pumped up for the sequels, everything was hyped to hell and back... and when ''Reloaded'' ''[[Film/TheMatrixReloaded Reloaded]]'' came up, it made loads of cash but left many disappointed. (So much that ''Revolutions'' ''[[Film/TheMatrixRevolutions Revolutions]]'' couldn't even match the first film's box office.)

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