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14th Jan '17 1:52:29 AM overman2099
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** The fact that Shredder constantly beats down the Turtles without them gaining a single victory over him has made some fans tired of how the TMNT in this incarnation CantCatchUp with the Shredder even after four seasons. It's gotten to the point where he's considered a VillainSue who's surpassed even the previous Shredder Ch'rell in being an InvincibleVillain who wins almost all the time and can never be stopped.
11th Jan '17 6:32:34 PM jameygamer
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** Back when the show first started there was a lot of support for Donnie/April. This was due to many people finding Donnie's crush endearing and him being a borderline woobie. However, near the middle of the first season he went from attention seeking to what can be considered down right {{stalk|erWithACrush}}ing. This is the first thing that caused people to jump ship. Then near the end of season one he starts making increasingly [[TookALevelInDumbass stupid]] [[LoveMakesYouDumb decisions]]. Cue more people jumping ship. Then there's the fact that whenever April [[ADayInTheLimeLight gets an episode for herself]] Donnie's crush [[StrangledByTheRedString comes to the forefront]] when said [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot episode]] could [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter have taken a lot of time to develop her character]]. This caused EVEN more people to jump ship. To make things worse in season two Donnie has a rather [[DependingOnTheWriter inconsistent]] [[ItsAllAboutMe its all about me attitude]]. (Which only seems to be around when [[DerailingLoveInterests April shows up]].)

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** Back when the show first started there was a lot of support for Donnie/April. This was due to many people finding Donnie's crush endearing and him being a borderline woobie. However, near the middle of the first season he went from attention seeking to what can be considered down right {{stalk|erWithACrush}}ing. This is the first thing that caused people to jump ship. Then near the end of season one he starts making increasingly [[TookALevelInDumbass stupid]] [[LoveMakesYouDumb decisions]]. Cue more people jumping ship. Then there's the fact that whenever April [[ADayInTheLimeLight gets an episode for herself]] Donnie's crush [[StrangledByTheRedString comes to the forefront]] when said [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot episode]] could [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter have taken a lot of time to develop her character]]. This caused EVEN more people to jump ship. To make things worse in season two Donnie has a rather [[DependingOnTheWriter inconsistent]] [[ItsAllAboutMe its all about me attitude]]. (Which only seems to be around when [[DerailingLoveInterests April shows up]].) up]]).
27th Dec '16 4:30:39 AM Tyk5919
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** The various [[ScheduleSlip hiatuses]], especially in Season 4. Fans are starting to lose their patience and beginning to wonder if the show's even worth waiting for considering the sheer amount of times they happen. Not helping the fact is that sometimes only four or three episodes will air before the show takes a break for well over ''two months''. Other fans, however, don't mind the various breaks; given the quality of the show and how much time and effort it takes for each episode, some people assume the hiatuses are necessary for the sake of ironing out any errors. Said fans also realize that as the show progresses, more characters are introduced and more fight scenes occur, thus resulting in more time for animation for said scenes and characters. Then there are the fans who do have a problem with the hiatuses, but put up with them [[BetterOnDVD and just binge-watch each season after they're complete]].



** ''Triple'' subversion with [[spoiler:the Rat King]]. Some fans didn't believe that he fell to his death and expected him to show up again. And after being absent from the show for over a year, he does...[[spoiler:until we find out that he was DeadAllAlong, and Splinter was merely seeing a hallucination of him]].



** Nobody believed for a second that [[spoiler:Master Splinter and Super Shredder]] fell to their deaths in "The Super Shredder." The very next episode reveals that they survived, with the former only suffering from a broken leg.



** The 1987 Turtles from "Trans-Dimensional Turtles." They look fine in the 2-D world, but when they adventure into the 3-D realm, their wide smiles, combined with their giant eyeballs, makes them look more disturbing than cute.

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** The 1987 Turtles from "Trans-Dimensional Turtles." They look fine in the 2-D world, but when they adventure venture into the 3-D realm, their wide smiles, combined with their giant eyeballs, makes them look more disturbing than cute.
25th Dec '16 3:26:11 AM Morgenthaler
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** Shinigami, a {{badass}} ActionGirl who's working with Karai. Her design, fighting style, and personality, along with how well she and Karai work together, quickly earned her plenty of fans right out of the gate.

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** Shinigami, a {{badass}} badass ActionGirl who's working with Karai. Her design, fighting style, and personality, along with how well she and Karai work together, quickly earned her plenty of fans right out of the gate.
23rd Nov '16 12:11:03 PM jameygamer
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** Slash, as a villain. In his first appearance, Slash is without a doubt, a villain. By his second appearance, he had a very brief (albeit awesome) team up with the turtles and other mutants against the Kraang and in his third episode, Slash is still an enemy of the turtles, but shows [[EvenEvilHasStandards there are some lines he will not cross like blowing a building when there could be people in the vicinity of the explosion]]. At the end, he fights against both the Kraang and the Newtralizer and his grudge against the turtles disappears when Raph saves him from being crushed by the Kraang walker. What's really jarring is the fact that Slash appears alongside the other villains in the third version of the theme song.
** April also qualifies. She's being trained as a kunoichi, is now confirmed to be [[spoiler:half-Kraang and half-human]], is [[spoiler:immune to Mutagen]] and has empathy/telepathy powers. Although this makes her cliche to some, the writers could have actually done something with it. Instead, everything is completely tossed over. Despite her training, she's kidnapped or in danger in almost every episode. The [[spoiler:half-Kraang, half-human idea]] is hardly ever mentioned again. Her immunity is understandable, but her powers make her the source of last-minute solutions to problem. As of the love triangle between her, Casey, and Donny, she's little more than a plot device only there to be kidnapped and ignore Donny's affections.

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** Slash, as a villain. In his first appearance, Slash is without a doubt, a villain. By his second appearance, he had a very brief (albeit awesome) team up with the turtles and other mutants against the Kraang and in his third episode, Slash is still an enemy of the turtles, but shows [[EvenEvilHasStandards there are some lines he will not cross like blowing a building when there could be people in the vicinity of the explosion]]. At the end, he fights against both the Kraang and the Newtralizer and his grudge against the turtles disappears when Raph saves him from being crushed by the Kraang walker. What's really jarring is the fact that Slash appears alongside the other villains in the third version of the theme song.
song. He ends up becoming the leader of the Mighty Mutanimals and his character does a complete 180 on his evil traits.
** April also qualifies. She's being trained as a kunoichi, is now confirmed to be [[spoiler:half-Kraang and half-human]], is [[spoiler:immune to Mutagen]] and has empathy/telepathy powers. Although this makes her cliche to some, the writers could have actually done something with it. Instead, everything is completely tossed over. Despite her training, she's kidnapped or in danger in almost every episode. The [[spoiler:half-Kraang, half-human idea]] is hardly ever mentioned again. Her immunity is understandable, but her powers make her the source of last-minute solutions to problem. As of the love triangle between her, Casey, and Donny, she's little more than a plot device only there to be kidnapped and ignore Donny's affections. This is somewhat fixed by the "City at War" arc, where she graduates to full kunoichi and eventually fights Shredder to save Karai. Plus she gets an episode as the central character.
22nd Nov '16 11:25:18 PM emillang1000
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*** Season 4 made a lot of steps towards fixing the tumor. While there are still a ''lot'' of Donnie/April vibes in episodes focusing on either Donnie and April together, it comes across as a much more natural & cute mutual crush. Donnie completely ditching the StalkerWithACrush tendencies, combined with Casey becoming more HeterosexualLifePartners with Raph than a LoveInterest to April certainly help. (And the few times Casey still ''does'' hit on April, April appears somewhat annoyed at his CasanovaWannabe antics, rather than flirt back as in previous seasons)

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*** Season 4 made a lot of steps towards fixing the tumor. While there are still a ''lot'' of Donnie/April vibes in episodes focusing on either Donnie and April together, it comes across as a much more natural & cute mutual crush. Donnie completely ditching the StalkerWithACrush tendencies, combined with Casey becoming more HeterosexualLifePartners with Raph than a LoveInterest to April certainly help. (And the few times Casey still ''does'' hit on April, April appears somewhat annoyed at his CasanovaWannabe antics, rather than flirt back as in previous seasons)
22nd Nov '16 11:23:40 PM emillang1000
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*** Season 4 made a lot of steps towards fixing the tumor. While there are still a ''lot'' of Donnie/April vibes in episodes focusing on either Donnie and April together, it comes across as a much more natural & cute mutual crush. Donnie completely ditching the StalkerWithACrush tendencies, combined with Casey becoming more HeterosexualLifePartners with Raph than a LoveInterest to April certainly help. (And the few times Casey still ''does'' hit on April, April appears somewhat annoyed at his CasanovaWannabe antics, rather than flirt back as in previous seasons)
22nd Nov '16 8:56:04 PM Angeldeb82
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** The ship was almost abandoned after [[DarkIsNotEvil Casey]] [[BloodKnight Jones]] has showed up. Due to A.) Being April's [[OneTruePairing most consistent love interest in the franchise.]] B.) [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Becoming]] a [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorite]] within a few episodes. ([[DieForOurShip Even by many Donnie/April fans who once wished for his death.]]) C.) Seemingly having [[HiddenDepths having more to him than you'd think upon first meeting,]] and D.) has much more natural [[UnresolvedSexualTension chemistry with April than Donnie does]], seeming to like April for who she is instead of [[LovingAShadow the idealized beauty Donnie loves]].

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** The ship was almost abandoned after [[DarkIsNotEvil Casey]] [[BloodKnight Jones]] has showed up. Due to A.) Being April's [[OneTruePairing most consistent love interest in the franchise.]] franchise]]. B.) [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Becoming]] a [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorite]] within a few episodes. ([[DieForOurShip Even by many Donnie/April fans who once wished for his death.]]) C.) Seemingly having [[HiddenDepths having more to him than you'd think upon first meeting,]] meeting]], and D.) has much more natural [[UnresolvedSexualTension chemistry with April than Donnie does]], seeming to like April for who she is instead of [[LovingAShadow the idealized beauty Donnie loves]].
22nd Nov '16 8:55:07 PM Angeldeb82
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** Back when the show first started there was a lot of support for Donnie/April. This was due to many people finding Donnie's crush endearing and him being a borderline woobie. However, near the middle of the first season he went from attention seeking to what can be considered down right [[StalkerWithACrush stalking.]] This is the first thing that caused people to jump ship. Then near the end of season one he starts making increasingly [[TookALevelInDumbass stupid]] [[LoveMakesYouDumb decisions.]] Cue more people jumping ship. Then there's the fact that whenever April [[ADayInTheLimeLight gets an episode for herself]] Donnie's crush [[StrangledByTheRedString comes to the forefront]] when said [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot episode]] could [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter have taken a lot of time to develop her character.]] This caused EVEN more people to jump ship. To make things worse in season two Donnie has a rather [[DependingOnTheWriter inconsistent]] [[ItsAllAboutMe its all about me attitude.]] (Which only seems to be around when [[DerailingLoveInterests April shows up.]])
** The ship was almost abandoned after [[DarkIsNotEvil Casey]] [[BloodKnight Jones]] has showed up. Due to A.) Being April's [[OneTruePairing most consistent love interest in the franchise.]] B.) [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Becoming]] a [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorite]] within a few episodes. ([[DieForOurShip Even by many Donnie/April fans who once wished for his death.]]) C.) Seemingly having [[HiddenDepths having more to him than you'd think upon first meeting,]] and D.) has much more natural [[UnresolvedSexualTension chemistry with April than Donnie does]], seeming to like April for who she is instead of [[LovingAShadow the idealized beauty Donnie loves.]]

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** Back when the show first started there was a lot of support for Donnie/April. This was due to many people finding Donnie's crush endearing and him being a borderline woobie. However, near the middle of the first season he went from attention seeking to what can be considered down right [[StalkerWithACrush stalking.]] {{stalk|erWithACrush}}ing. This is the first thing that caused people to jump ship. Then near the end of season one he starts making increasingly [[TookALevelInDumbass stupid]] [[LoveMakesYouDumb decisions.]] decisions]]. Cue more people jumping ship. Then there's the fact that whenever April [[ADayInTheLimeLight gets an episode for herself]] Donnie's crush [[StrangledByTheRedString comes to the forefront]] when said [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot episode]] could [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter have taken a lot of time to develop her character.]] character]]. This caused EVEN more people to jump ship. To make things worse in season two Donnie has a rather [[DependingOnTheWriter inconsistent]] [[ItsAllAboutMe its all about me attitude.]] attitude]]. (Which only seems to be around when [[DerailingLoveInterests April shows up.]])
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** The ship was almost abandoned after [[DarkIsNotEvil Casey]] [[BloodKnight Jones]] has showed up. Due to A.) Being April's [[OneTruePairing most consistent love interest in the franchise.]] B.) [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Becoming]] a [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorite]] within a few episodes. ([[DieForOurShip Even by many Donnie/April fans who once wished for his death.]]) C.) Seemingly having [[HiddenDepths having more to him than you'd think upon first meeting,]] and D.) has much more natural [[UnresolvedSexualTension chemistry with April than Donnie does]], seeming to like April for who she is instead of [[LovingAShadow the idealized beauty Donnie loves.]]loves]].



* AlasPoorScrappy: When the Pulverizer [[spoiler: mutates into Mutagen Man.]]
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** Does April care about Donnie, OR Casey on a romantic level at all? Does she [[MasterOfTheMixedMessage not realize what some of her actions towards Donnie implies through his eyes?]] Did she have a thing for Casey during season 2 and backtracked due to the [[TraumaCongaLine traumatic events during said season's finale?]] Or is she leading BOTH of them on, only to to turn them down, [[JerkassWoobie because it's the only thing]] [[TheWoobie she can control about her life anymore?]]

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* AlasPoorScrappy: When the Pulverizer [[spoiler: mutates into Mutagen Man.]]
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** Does April care about Donnie, OR Casey on a romantic level at all? Does she [[MasterOfTheMixedMessage not realize what some of her actions towards Donnie implies through his eyes?]] eyes]]? Did she have a thing for Casey during season 2 and backtracked due to the [[TraumaCongaLine traumatic events during said season's finale?]] finale]]? Or is she leading BOTH of them on, only to to turn them down, [[JerkassWoobie because it's the only thing]] [[TheWoobie she can control about her life anymore?]]anymore]]?



** Is Mikey really as stupid and irrational as he seems, or is he insecure about being compared to his brothers and being "just" [[KidAppealCharacter the funny guy,]] and said stupid and irrational actions are just his misguided way of trying to prove himself. [[labelnote:explanation]] The show itself has implied the latter on a few occasions. [[/labelnote]]
** Is Raph's [[TheBeastMaster skill with animals]] just a result of [[NotGoodWithPeople not being good with people,]] or is he inherently more animalistic than his brothers and father.
*** Another one would have to be on whether or not he's a StepfordSmiler in season 3 due to the events of the season 2 finale. Was he able to cope with the situation during the seasons' three month time skip, or is he just putting on a brave face because he's the TeamDad [[PromotedToParent now,]] and doesn't want the others to worry to much.
*** Yet another Raph one. (Although this one is at least partially due to [[FanPreferredCouple shipping.)]] Is Raph's negative attitude towards Donnie's crush (on April) due to his BrutallyHonest nature and being realistic over the situation (and not wanting Donnie to get hurt), or does he also have a crush on April as well but doesn't act on it because both his brother and best friend are already pursuing her, and the comments he makes are meant to dissuade himself as well. Is it just one of these, [[TakeAThirdOption or all of them?]]

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** Is Mikey really as stupid and irrational as he seems, or is he insecure about being compared to his brothers and being "just" [[KidAppealCharacter the funny guy,]] guy]], and said stupid and irrational actions are just his misguided way of trying to prove himself. himself? [[labelnote:explanation]] The show itself has implied the latter on a few occasions. [[/labelnote]]
** Is Raph's [[TheBeastMaster skill with animals]] just a result of [[NotGoodWithPeople not being good with people,]] people]], or is he inherently more animalistic than his brothers and father.
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*** Another one would have to be on whether or not he's a StepfordSmiler in season 3 due to the events of the season 2 finale. Was he able to cope with the situation during the seasons' three month time skip, or is he just putting on a brave face because he's the TeamDad [[PromotedToParent now,]] now]], and doesn't want the others to worry to much.
*** Yet another Raph one. (Although this one is at least partially due to [[FanPreferredCouple shipping.)]] shipping]].) Is Raph's negative attitude towards Donnie's crush (on April) due to his BrutallyHonest nature and being realistic over the situation (and not wanting Donnie to get hurt), or does he also have a crush on April as well but doesn't act on it because both his brother and best friend are already pursuing her, and the comments he makes are meant to dissuade himself as well. well? Is it just one of these, [[TakeAThirdOption or all of them?]] them]]?



** After the much DarkerAndEdgier second season finale, the third season completely dropped the plot regarding [[spoiler: the Kraang's ongoing invasion and mutation of the Earth]] in favor of several filler episodes that are either gratiutous ShoutOut's to horror films ("Dream Beavers", "Within the Woods", "Buried Secrets"), bizarre episodes mostly focused on humor ("The Croaking", "A Foot Too Big"), or a mixture of both. Absolutely ''no'' mention of what's going on in the outside world [[spoiler: let alone the missing Splinter or their allies, or Kirby being mutated again]] is made, and overall despite the odd darker moment the show has taken a much more bizarre, lighter approach.

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** After the much DarkerAndEdgier second season finale, the third season completely dropped the plot regarding [[spoiler: the Kraang's ongoing invasion and mutation of the Earth]] in favor of several filler episodes that are either gratiutous ShoutOut's gratuitous {{Shout Out}}s to horror films ("Dream Beavers", "Within the Woods", "Buried Secrets"), bizarre episodes mostly focused on humor ("The Croaking", "A Foot Too Big"), or a mixture of both. Absolutely ''no'' mention of what's going on in the outside world [[spoiler: let alone the missing Splinter or their allies, or Kirby being mutated again]] is made, and overall despite the odd darker moment the show has taken a much more bizarre, lighter approach.



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** Slash went from beating the turtles to near death in his debut and as soon as he [[HeelFaceTurn turns over a new leaf]], gets curbstomped by Tiger Claw and Zog.

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** Slash went from beating the turtles to near death in his debut and as soon as he [[HeelFaceTurn turns over a new leaf]], gets curbstomped curb-stomped by Tiger Claw and Zog.



** [[spoiler: Karai's]] mutation. Some fans hate it due to the fact that it came up simply to keep [[spoiler: her and Splinter]] apart per the [[StatusQuoIsGod status quo]]. Others hate it due to it being a heavy change to the show's canon since [[spoiler: Karai]] has never been a mutant in any other iteration of the series, with some feeling it's a cheap gimmick of adding yet another mutant to the [[MerchandiseDriven toyline]], not helped by the fact that a figure was indeed announced not long after the change happened. Others are fine with it, as long as they feel it can be eventually cured down the line, and a few other like her new form because it's [[SnakesAreSexy surprisingly]] [[CuteMonsterGirl cute,]] and puts her in the same acceptance club that the Turtles and her [[spoiler: father Splinter]] are in.
** Tiger Claw is either awesome or a VillainSue depending on who you ask.

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** [[spoiler: Karai's]] mutation. Some fans hate it due to the fact that it came up simply to keep [[spoiler: her and Splinter]] apart per the [[StatusQuoIsGod status quo]].{{status quo|IsGod}}. Others hate it due to it being a heavy change to the show's canon since [[spoiler: Karai]] has never been a mutant in any other iteration of the series, with some feeling it's a cheap gimmick of adding yet another mutant to the [[MerchandiseDriven toyline]], not helped by the fact that a figure was indeed announced not long after the change happened. Others are fine with it, as long as they feel it can be eventually cured down the line, and a few other like her new form because it's [[SnakesAreSexy surprisingly]] [[CuteMonsterGirl cute,]] {{s|nakesAreSexy}}urprisingly {{cute|MonsterGirl}}, and puts her in the same acceptance club that the Turtles and her [[spoiler: father Splinter]] are in.
** Tiger Claw is either awesome or a VillainSue Villain Sue depending on who you ask.



*** April manages to do it again just two episodes later in “The Croaking" in which she acts as an instigator towards Mikey's bad behaviour. Kid trashes the house multiple times (making a mess with thrown around food, waisting said food, AND breaking furniture) in which his brothers understandably get mad and [[TeamDad Raph leaves him to clean up the mess.]] When Mikey [[spoiler: runs away from the group]] April blames every other member but herself, trying to claim the event was caused by mistreatment that [[UnreliableNarrator was never shown onscreen.]] She then takes it a step further and unrightfully yells at Raph for being “inconsiderate", despite the fact he had to take up a lot of responsibility after [[WhamEpisode the season two finale]] and was acting as a ReasonableAuthorityFigure when he decided to make Mikey clean up his mess. All of this and the fact that her words seemed to genuinely hurt Raph has caused... negative reactions to say the least.

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*** April manages to do it again just two episodes later in “The "The Croaking" in which she acts as an instigator towards Mikey's bad behaviour. Kid trashes the house multiple times (making a mess with thrown around food, waisting wasting said food, AND breaking furniture) in which his brothers understandably get mad and [[TeamDad Raph leaves him to clean up the mess.]] mess]]. When Mikey [[spoiler: runs away from the group]] April blames every other member but herself, trying to claim the event was caused by mistreatment that [[UnreliableNarrator was never shown onscreen.]] onscreen]]. She then takes it a step further and unrightfully yells at Raph for being “inconsiderate", "inconsiderate", despite the fact he had to take up a lot of responsibility after [[WhamEpisode the season two finale]] and was acting as a ReasonableAuthorityFigure when he decided to make Mikey clean up his mess. All of this and the fact that her words seemed to genuinely hurt Raph has caused... negative reactions to say the least.



** While fans rejoiced that Bebop and Rocksteady are finally appearing, they are heavily divided over 2 things. The first is their [[http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140501013812/tmnt/images/a/ab/Bebop%26Rocksteady.jpg drastically different character designs]]. The second thing is the fact that they're completely different characters from the other versions. Basically, instead of the loveable idiots from the 80's and comics universes, Bebop is an eccentric hi-tech thief who speaks in slang, and Rocksteady is a Russian arms dealer, who is also a collector of antique military weapons, and is after Shredder's helmet.

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** While fans rejoiced that Bebop and Rocksteady are finally appearing, they are heavily divided over 2 things. The first is their [[http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140501013812/tmnt/images/a/ab/Bebop%26Rocksteady.jpg drastically different character designs]]. The second thing is the fact that they're completely different characters from the other versions. Basically, instead of the loveable lovable idiots from the 80's and comics universes, Bebop is an eccentric hi-tech thief who speaks in slang, and Rocksteady is a Russian arms dealer, who is also a collector of antique military weapons, and is after Shredder's helmet.



** As per usual fans jokingly ship the turtles with their [[WeaponofChoice weapons of choice.]] However this series has provided multiple new ones.

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** As per usual fans jokingly ship the turtles with their [[WeaponofChoice [[WeaponOfChoice weapons of choice.]] choice]]. However this series has provided multiple new ones.



** Donnie seemingly gets some CharacterDevelopment in ''A Foot Too Big'' (Season 3, episode 2), and, as of Season 3, Episode 8, it seems to be ''sticking'': After Donnie promises to not bug April anymore and [[spoiler: April kisses Donnie, telling him that he's not just "a mutant", he's "her mutant"]] his [[StalkerWithACrush more stalker-y]] tendencies all but disappear, and he reverts back to his early-Season-1 persona in regards to her, if not more subdued, making the attraction cute again. He does still have occasional moments of jealousy towards Casey, but he noticeably pulls back much more and lets April do her own thing.

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** Donnie seemingly gets some CharacterDevelopment in ''A Foot Too Big'' (Season 3, episode 2), and, as of Season 3, Episode 8, it seems to be ''sticking'': After Donnie promises to not bug April anymore and [[spoiler: April kisses Donnie, telling him that he's not just "a mutant", he's "her mutant"]] mutant"]], his [[StalkerWithACrush more stalker-y]] tendencies all but disappear, and he reverts back to his early-Season-1 persona in regards to her, if not more subdued, making the attraction cute again. He does still have occasional moments of jealousy towards Casey, but he noticeably pulls back much more and lets April do her own thing.



* CompleteMonster: This continuity’s Rat King, [[Main/MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Dr. Victor Falco]], started off as just a [[SmugSnake smug]] {{mad scientist}}. The Turtles first meet him while investigating the disappearance of another scientist, with Falco [[Main/BitchInSheepsClothing seeming very friendly, helpful and concerned with his colleague's well being]]. However it is soon revealed that Falco himself kidnapped his colleague, mutating him into a gorilla creature and is using his mutated DNA to create a serum that gives himself PsychicPowers. After his initial defeat by the Turtles, Falco loses his job and continues his experiments on rats. An accident leaves him blind and deformed, but also grants him the ability to [[Main/TheBeastmaster control rats]]. Falco becomes [[Main/MisanthropeSupreme disgusted with humanity]], adopts the name Rat King and seeks to have his rats take over the city by driving the humans away. Rat King also [[MindRape mind rapes]] Splinter several times, in order to break his spirit and turn him into his slave. After another defeat, Rat King later returns again, kidnaps several civilians, [[WouldHurtAChild including a couple of teenagers and a small girl]] and plans to experiment on them, trying to turn them into human rat hybrids. However his first attempt results in a creature that is deformed, immobile and in constant pain, but that does not deter him from continuing his experiments. Also despite his supposed kinship with his rats, [[{{Hypocrite}} he has no problem experimenting on them and is willing sacrifice them to gain an advantage over one of his enemies]]. [[spoiler:He's notably the first major villain to get killed, and by Splinter, who would normally advise a ThouShallNotKill attitude and actually let Shredder live in "Earth's Last Stand" (though Shredder was grievously injured). Falco's also the only villain who is virtually confirmed to be dead when his corpse shows up in "Darkest Plight" (the fates of Dregg and Armaggon are somewhat ambiguous and they could possibly return), but this same episode takes his MindRape and lack of regard for rats even further.]]

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* CompleteMonster: This continuity’s Rat King, [[Main/MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate Dr. Victor Falco]], started off as just a [[SmugSnake smug]] {{smug|Snake}} {{mad scientist}}. The Turtles first meet him while investigating the disappearance of another scientist, with Falco [[Main/BitchInSheepsClothing [[BitchInSheepsClothing seeming very friendly, helpful and concerned with his colleague's well being]]. However it is soon revealed that Falco himself kidnapped his colleague, mutating him into a gorilla creature and is using his mutated DNA to create a serum that gives himself PsychicPowers. After his initial defeat by the Turtles, Falco loses his job and continues his experiments on rats. An accident leaves him blind and deformed, but also grants him the ability to [[Main/TheBeastmaster [[TheBeastmaster control rats]]. Falco becomes [[Main/MisanthropeSupreme [[MisanthropeSupreme disgusted with humanity]], adopts the name Rat King and seeks to have his rats take over the city by driving the humans away. Rat King also [[MindRape mind rapes]] {{mind rape}}s Splinter several times, in order to break his spirit and turn him into his slave. After another defeat, Rat King later returns again, kidnaps several civilians, [[WouldHurtAChild including a couple of teenagers and a small girl]] and plans to experiment on them, trying to turn them into human rat hybrids. However his first attempt results in a creature that is deformed, immobile and in constant pain, but that does not deter him from continuing his experiments. Also despite his supposed kinship with his rats, [[{{Hypocrite}} he has no problem experimenting on them and is willing sacrifice them to gain an advantage over one of his enemies]]. [[spoiler:He's notably the first major villain to get killed, and by Splinter, who would normally advise a ThouShallNotKill attitude and actually let Shredder live in "Earth's Last Stand" (though Shredder was grievously injured). Falco's also the only villain who is virtually confirmed to be dead when his corpse shows up in "Darkest Plight" (the fates of Dregg and Armaggon are somewhat ambiguous and they could possibly return), but this same episode takes his MindRape and lack of regard for rats even further.]]



* CriticalResearchFailure: In ''Turtles in Time'', the knights from Arthurian times confuse the Turtles for [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Orcs]]. Not only are orcs ''not'' part of medieval legends from that era, [[NewerThanTheyThink they are not from any real world mythology at all, having been entirely invented by Tolkien long after Medieval times, meaning there is no way the word could have even existed back then]].

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* CriticalResearchFailure: In ''Turtles in Time'', the knights from Arthurian times confuse the Turtles for [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Orcs]].{{O|urOrcsAreDifferent}}rcs. Not only are orcs ''not'' part of medieval legends from that era, [[NewerThanTheyThink they are not from any real world mythology at all, having been entirely invented by Tolkien long after Medieval times, meaning there is no way the word could have even existed back then]].



** Any moment between [[spoiler: Raphael and his pet turtle, Spike,]] become this after [[spoiler: Spike mutates into Slash.]]

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** Any moment between [[spoiler: Raphael and his pet turtle, Spike,]] become becomes this after [[spoiler: Spike mutates into Slash.]] Slash]].



* HeReallyCanAct: While CoreyFeldman isn't a ''bad'' actor, nobody expected how intimidating he was as Slash.

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* HeReallyCanAct: SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: While CoreyFeldman Creator/CoreyFeldman isn't a ''bad'' actor, nobody expected how intimidating he was as Slash.



** Arguably [[spoiler:Spike, while he did try and murder the turtles he genuinely believed he was helping Raph... it's kinda hard NOT to feel bad for him when Raph calls him a monster.]]

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** Arguably [[spoiler:Spike, while he did try and murder the turtles he genuinely believed he was helping Raph... it's kinda hard NOT to feel bad for him when Raph calls him a monster.]]monster]].



* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Raphael. Dear god, Raphael. He's been shipped with [[CargoShip his weapon, a wooden spoon,]] [[FanPreferredCouple April]], [[IncestIsRelative his brothers,]] [[HoYay Casey]], [[FoeYay Bradford, Xever, Slash, Karai,]] [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight Irma]], [[UpToEleven and even characters who haven't even appeared yet like Mona Lisa, Venus, and Ninjara.]] To make things better he has shown absolutely no romantic interest in any of these characters that he's actually met, effectively making each and every one of these [[CrackPairing crack pairings.]] It got to a point where even ''cleaning supplies'' were added to this list. By Season 4, however, [[spoiler:Mona Lisa]] turns out to be the canonical winner.

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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Raphael. Dear god, God, Raphael. He's been shipped with [[CargoShip his weapon, a wooden spoon,]] spoon]], [[FanPreferredCouple April]], [[IncestIsRelative his brothers,]] brothers]], [[HoYay Casey]], [[FoeYay Bradford, Xever, Slash, Karai,]] Karai]], [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight Irma]], [[UpToEleven and even characters who haven't even appeared yet like Mona Lisa, Venus, and Ninjara.]] Ninjara]]. To make things better he has shown absolutely no romantic interest in any of these characters that he's actually met, effectively making each and every one of these [[CrackPairing crack pairings.]] {{crack pairing}}s. It got to a point where even ''cleaning supplies'' were added to this list. By Season 4, however, [[spoiler:Mona Lisa]] turns out to be the canonical winner.



** [[spoiler:Earth is destroyed in the Season 3 finale]]. It's brought back five minutes into the Season 4 premiere.

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** [[spoiler:Earth is destroyed in the Season 3 finale]]. finale.]] It's brought back five minutes into the Season 4 premiere.



** '''''"I NEVER WANT TO SEE YOU AGAIN!!!"'''''[[labelnote:explanation]][[DarkerAndEdgier April to the Turtles after they (accidentally)]] [[{{Deconstruction}} caused her father to become a mutant]].[[/labelnote]]

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** '''''"I NEVER WANT TO SEE YOU AGAIN!!!"'''''[[labelnote:explanation]][[DarkerAndEdgier April to the Turtles after they (accidentally)]] [[{{Deconstruction}} caused her father to become a mutant]].[[/labelnote]]mutant.]][[/labelnote]]



*** [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Turtles and Strawberries.]]
*** The fact that the anon is [[http://asktmnt.tumblr.com/post/89095200320/with-all-the-love-confessions-boyfriend-requests seriously considering keeping a tally of all the fangirls who try to ask Leo and Raph out as a contest between the two.]]
*** Depicting the boys dressing up as [[spoiler: April]], as seen [[http://asktmnt.tumblr.com/post/64979578571/we-could-totally-be-twins-april-mikey-do here.]]

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*** [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments Turtles and Strawberries.]]
*** The fact that the anon is [[http://asktmnt.tumblr.com/post/89095200320/with-all-the-love-confessions-boyfriend-requests seriously considering keeping a tally of all the fangirls who try to ask Leo and Raph out as a contest between the two.]]
two]].
*** Depicting the boys dressing up as [[spoiler: April]], as seen [[http://asktmnt.tumblr.com/post/64979578571/we-could-totally-be-twins-april-mikey-do here.]]here]].



** "Don't Casetello me, bro!", "My Casetello vibes are tingling", and it's variants to a lesser agree. [[labelnote:explanation]] Casetello is the ship name for Casey/Donnie. Since both characters are [[MemeticMolester memetic molesters]] these phrases are often used between fans to indicate that a second party is doing/acting/saying something creepy. [[/labelnote]]

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** "Don't Casetello me, bro!", "My Casetello vibes are tingling", and it's its variants to a lesser agree. [[labelnote:explanation]] Casetello is the ship name for Casey/Donnie. Since both characters are [[MemeticMolester memetic molesters]] {{memetic molester}}s these phrases are often used between fans to indicate that a second party is doing/acting/saying something creepy. [[/labelnote]]



** How did he build that? [[labelnote:explanation]] First used in reference to Casey's seeimingly endless ability to macguyver house hold objects into deadly weapons, and brought back to life when Raphael somehow managed to make duo flamethrowers with junk he found in the woods.[[/labelnote]]

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** How did he build that? [[labelnote:explanation]] First used in reference to Casey's seeimingly seemingly endless ability to macguyver house hold objects into deadly weapons, and brought back to life when Raphael somehow managed to make duo flamethrowers with junk he found in the woods.[[/labelnote]]



** [[BadFuture SAINW]], [[BigNo nooooooooo!]] [[labelnote:explanation]] The show has seemingly referenced the infamously sad/traumatizing 2K3 episode, "Same As It Never Was" several times. Fans have reacted appropriately. [[/labelnote]]

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** [[BadFuture SAINW]], SAINW,]] [[BigNo nooooooooo!]] [[labelnote:explanation]] The show has seemingly referenced the infamously sad/traumatizing 2K3 episode, "Same As It Never Was" several times. Fans have reacted appropriately. [[/labelnote]]



** [[spoiler:Krang, of the original series, crosses this territory in "Trans-Dimensional Turtles", where he sets bombs in the Earths of 2012, 1987 and original Mirage Turtles in a plan get rid of the Turtles forever while lying to his cousin, Kraang Sub-Prime, that he was helping them conquer their worlds]].

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** [[spoiler:Krang, of the original series, crosses this territory in "Trans-Dimensional Turtles", where he sets bombs in the Earths of 2012, 1987 and original Mirage Turtles in a plan get rid of the Turtles forever while lying to his cousin, Kraang Sub-Prime, that he was helping them conquer their worlds]].worlds.]]



** Mikey calling [[spoiler: Kirby "Wing Nut" after he's been mutated into a bat and the turtles are trying to trap him.]] Which is lampshaded by Donnie.
-->'''Donnie''': You are not giving [[spoiler: Mr. O'Neil a monster name!]]

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** Mikey calling [[spoiler: Kirby "Wing Nut" after he's been mutated into a bat and the turtles are trying to trap him.]] him]]. Which is lampshaded by Donnie.
-->'''Donnie''': You are not giving [[spoiler: Mr. O'Neil a monster name!]]name]]!



** April's [[spoiler:attack on Mom-Thing in ''Buried Secrets''.]]

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** April's [[spoiler:attack on Mom-Thing in ''Buried Secrets''.]]Secrets'']].
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** The Rat King/Dr. Victor Falco, due to the fact that, outside of the Shredder and the Kraang, he's the most personal enemy of the Turtles, and a major threat, putting out a lot of interesting story ideas (including possible encounters with his former partner Dr. Rockwell, setting up a battle between the monkey and the Rat King. He only ever appears three times, [[spoiler:fell to his death in the third, and then his corpse shows up in a fourth appearance in Season 4, leaving it unlikely he's ever going to return; he also never runs into Rockwell as the Rat King and his relationship with him is thrown out the window from his mutation into the Rat King on, with Splinter taking Rockwell's place as his torture target]].

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** The Rat King/Dr. Victor Falco, due to the fact that, outside of the Shredder and the Kraang, he's the most personal enemy of the Turtles, and a major threat, putting out a lot of interesting story ideas (including possible encounters with his former partner Dr. Rockwell, setting up a battle between the monkey and the Rat King.King). He only ever appears three times, [[spoiler:fell to his death in the third, and then his corpse shows up in a fourth appearance in Season 4, leaving it unlikely he's ever going to return; he also never runs into Rockwell as the Rat King and his relationship with him is thrown out the window from his mutation into the Rat King on, with Splinter taking Rockwell's place as his torture target]].
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