History YMMV / TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012

29th Mar '17 4:48:55 PM Tyk5919
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** Many people complained when [[spoiler:Rahzar]] got a nasty [[DroppedABridgeOnHim bridge-dropping]] at the end of Season 4, especially since his character [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter has been pushed to the sidelines since Season 2]]. He's immediately brought back to life in the second episode of Season 5 and given much more screentime.



** Now that "Requiem" has aired, both [[spoiler:Master Splinter]] and ''especially'' [[spoiler:Rahzar]] are getting this treatment. The former has been [[DeathIsCheap "killed off"]] three times already, so a lot of fans are expecting him to be revived or brought back somehow. Meanwhile, the latter presumably drowned off-screen, but considering that he survived having a hockey puck explode in his mouth and getting run over ''by a train'', many fans won't be surprised if he also returns as well. Fan expectations were subverted when "The Forgotten Swordsman" revealed that no, [[spoiler: Leatherhead really ''did'' drown him. Tigerclaw has to have Kavaxas bring his corpse back to life.]]

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** Now that "Requiem" has aired, both [[spoiler:Master Splinter]] and ''especially'' [[spoiler:Rahzar]] are getting this treatment. The former has been [[DeathIsCheap "killed off"]] three times already, so a lot of fans are expecting him to be revived or brought back somehow. Meanwhile, the latter presumably drowned off-screen, but considering that he survived having a hockey puck explode in his mouth and getting run over ''by a train'', many fans won't be surprised if he also returns as well. Fan expectations were This was subverted when in both cases; "Owari" revealed that yes, [[spoiler:Master Splinter is dead, was buried, had a funeral, and only his spirit returns]]. Also, "The Forgotten Swordsman" revealed that no, [[spoiler: Leatherhead yes, [[spoiler:Leatherhead really ''did'' drown him.Rahzar. Tigerclaw has to have Kavaxas bring his corpse back to life.]]



** [[spoiler: Rahzar was introduced as a major antagonist and a serious foe to the Turtles. However, he quickly suffered VillainDecay and became a pretty weak combatant on the battlefield, often getting taken out in one hit. He does little after Season 1, loses his position as TheDragon, and never gets any development before he's suddenly drowned and killed by Leatherhead in "Requiem". To make up for it, a Chris Bradford cartoon is the main cartoon show of Season 4.]]

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** [[spoiler: Rahzar was introduced as a major antagonist and a serious foe to the Turtles. However, he Hattori Tatsu quickly suffered VillainDecay established himself as a new, competent, very strong villain for both Karai and became a pretty weak combatant on the battlefield, often getting taken out in one hit. He does little after Season 1, loses his position as TheDragon, Turtles, [[BlindWeaponmaster despite being bind]]. The show seemed like it was setting up Tatsu to [[spoiler:replace Shredder]] and never gets any development before he's suddenly drowned and be an ArcVillain for Karai or a DiscOneFinalBoss in general. Instead, [[spoiler:he's killed by Leatherhead Kavaxas in "Requiem". To make up for it, a Chris Bradford cartoon is the main cartoon show same episode as his debut, thus eliminating any chance of him returning in Season 4.]]5]].
29th Mar '17 8:44:00 AM Chris116
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** Now that "Requiem" has aired, both [[spoiler:Master Splinter]] and ''especially'' [[spoiler:Rahzar]] are getting this treatment. The former has been [[DeathIsCheap "killed off"]] three times already, so a lot of fans are expecting him to be revived or brought back somehow. Meanwhile, the latter presumably drowned off-screen, but considering that he survived having a hockey puck explode in his mouth and getting run over ''by a train'', many fans won't be surprised if he also returns as well.

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** Now that "Requiem" has aired, both [[spoiler:Master Splinter]] and ''especially'' [[spoiler:Rahzar]] are getting this treatment. The former has been [[DeathIsCheap "killed off"]] three times already, so a lot of fans are expecting him to be revived or brought back somehow. Meanwhile, the latter presumably drowned off-screen, but considering that he survived having a hockey puck explode in his mouth and getting run over ''by a train'', many fans won't be surprised if he also returns as well. Fan expectations were subverted when "The Forgotten Swordsman" revealed that no, [[spoiler: Leatherhead really ''did'' drown him. Tigerclaw has to have Kavaxas bring his corpse back to life.]]
23rd Mar '17 6:00:07 PM jameygamer
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** There have been criticisms of how the Shredder [[InvincibleVillain is nearly unbeatable]] in almost every single one of his appearances, even when completely outnumbered and against people who should be even matches against him, skill-wise. [[spoiler:"Earth's Last Stand" finally features Shredder losing a fight on-screen against Splinter, without any sort of claim to victory as he did in Season 1 when revealing that he took Miwa and raised her as a weapon against Splinter. And in "Owari", he would finally lose a fight to Leonardo, with the penalty for this loss being Shredder's head and life.]]

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** There have been criticisms of how the Shredder [[InvincibleVillain is nearly unbeatable]] in almost every single one of his appearances, even when completely outnumbered and against people who should be even matches against him, skill-wise. [[spoiler:"Earth's Last Stand" finally features Shredder losing a fight on-screen against Splinter, without any sort of claim to victory as he did in Season 1 when revealing that he took Miwa and raised her as a weapon against Splinter. And in "Owari", he would finally lose a fight to Leonardo, with the penalty for this loss being Shredder's head and life.life, as Leo is very enraged about Shredder killing Splinter and does not hold back this time.]]
23rd Mar '17 5:56:42 PM jameygamer
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** There have been criticisms of how the Shredder [[InvincibleVillain is nearly unbeatable]] in almost every single one of his appearances, even when completely outnumbered and against people who should be even matches against him, skill-wise. [[spoiler:"Earth's Last Stand" finally features Shredder losing a fight on-screen against Splinter, without any sort of claim to victory as he did in Season 1 when revealing that he took Miwa and raised her as a weapon against Splinter.]]

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** There have been criticisms of how the Shredder [[InvincibleVillain is nearly unbeatable]] in almost every single one of his appearances, even when completely outnumbered and against people who should be even matches against him, skill-wise. [[spoiler:"Earth's Last Stand" finally features Shredder losing a fight on-screen against Splinter, without any sort of claim to victory as he did in Season 1 when revealing that he took Miwa and raised her as a weapon against Splinter. And in "Owari", he would finally lose a fight to Leonardo, with the penalty for this loss being Shredder's head and life.]]
23rd Mar '17 5:50:08 PM jameygamer
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** Creator/MichaelDorn of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' appears in the Season 3 finale as Mozar, and this character is the BigBad for the first half of Season 4. The last season's ShowWithinAShow is a parody of Dorn's ''The Next Generation'', which bookends the seasons after the first season parodied the original ''Star Trek''.
20th Mar '17 4:42:35 AM LadyErinNY
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* DieForOurShip: Casey Jones has been hit with this by many April/Donatello shippers. This reaches into Fandumb territory as some April/Donnie shippers have declared the show of losing "quality" and have declared they will not watch it anymore... simply for the ship teasing of the (almost always canon) Casey/April ship.
13th Mar '17 11:39:02 PM TroperBeDoper
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** Averted with [[spoiler: Zog undergoing AdaptationalVillainy.]] Several fans have pointed out that the character may not even have AdaptionalVillainy at all [[spoiler: and that past incarnations of Zog would've been just as bad had they regained their bearings]], and deconstructs one notable story arc of the mythos in an interesting, realistic way.

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** Averted with [[spoiler: Zog undergoing AdaptationalVillainy.]] Several fans have pointed out that the character may not even have AdaptionalVillainy AdaptationalVillainy at all [[spoiler: and that past incarnations of Zog would've been just as bad had they regained their bearings]], and deconstructs one notable story arc of the mythos in an interesting, realistic way.
8th Mar '17 2:16:20 PM LadyErinNY
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** The ship was almost abandoned after [[DarkIsNotEvil Casey]] [[BloodKnight Jones]] has showed up. Due to A.) Being April's [[OneTruePairing most consistent love interest in the franchise]]. B.) [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Becoming]] a [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorite]] within a few episodes. ([[DieForOurShip Even by many Donnie/April fans who once wished for his death.]]) C.) Seemingly having [[HiddenDepths having more to him than you'd think upon first meeting]], and D.) has much more natural [[UnresolvedSexualTension chemistry with April than Donnie does]], seeming to like April for who she is instead of [[LovingAShadow the idealized beauty Donnie loves]].
*** The season two finale made it seem that Donnie finally put aside his crush but season three shows the writer's insistence that the love triangle continue, although Donnie has been characterized as much less obsessive about his crush now.

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** The ship was almost abandoned after [[DarkIsNotEvil Casey]] [[BloodKnight Jones]] has showed up. Due to A.) Being April's [[OneTruePairing most consistent love interest in the franchise]]. B.) [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Becoming]] a [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorite]] within a few episodes. ([[DieForOurShip Even by many Donnie/April fans who once wished for his death.]]) C.) Seemingly having [[HiddenDepths having more to him than you'd think upon first meeting]], and D.) has much more natural [[UnresolvedSexualTension chemistry with April than Donnie does]], seeming to like April for who she is instead of [[LovingAShadow the idealized beauty Donnie loves]].
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The season two finale made it seem that Donnie finally put aside his crush but season three shows the writer's insistence that the love triangle continue, although Donnie has been characterized as much less obsessive about his crush now.
4th Mar '17 9:17:05 AM MetalMichelangelo
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** In ''Owari'', Leo calls Shredder a demon during the final confrontation. In the next season, they have to deal with an actual demon (Kavaxas) who apparently makes a deal with Tiger Claw to bring Shredder back to life. Granted, this could just be foreshadowing.
26th Feb '17 10:31:52 AM Isaac_Heller
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** What makes this even worse is that [[spoiler:he's outright shown he has not compassion at all for Karai. She's simply a means to an end. Even the fact she genuinely loves him means nothing so long as he can use her to hurt Splinter.]] The big crossing in this regard comes when he [[spoiler:responds to her asking if Splinter is her real father by saying yes and having her locked up. No show of sorrow or upset. No feelings of remorse. He just basically tells her 'yes, I used you as a living tool of revenge and discards her.]]

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** *** What makes this even worse is that [[spoiler:he's outright shown he has not compassion at all for Karai. She's simply a means to an end. Even the fact she genuinely loves him means nothing so long as he can use her to hurt Splinter.]] The big crossing in this regard comes when he [[spoiler:responds to her asking if Splinter is her real father by saying yes and having her locked up. No show of sorrow or upset. No feelings of remorse. He just basically tells her 'yes, I used you as a living tool of revenge and discards her.]]



** [[spoiler: He most certainly crossed the horizon for good in the Season 3 finale, when he throws away a chance to save the world AND Karai in favor of killing Splinter through a literal, figurative, and possibly symbolic backstab, which leads directly to the Triceratons sucking Earth into a black hole.]]

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** *** [[spoiler: He most certainly crossed the horizon for good in the Season 3 finale, when he throws away a chance to save the world AND Karai in favor of killing Splinter through a literal, figurative, and possibly symbolic backstab, which leads directly to the Triceratons sucking Earth into a black hole.]]
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