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** Some fans are under the impression that this show was the first adaptation of TMNT to have the Turtles with visible iris even when they are wearing their masks, which morph into [[IrislessEyeMaskOfMystery white eyes]] during dramatic moments. The Turtles alternating between having visible iris and [[IrislessEyeMaskOfMystery blank white eyes]] even when wearing masks, depending on the mood can be traced as far back as the [[ComicBook/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesMirage original Mirage comics]], [[https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/f/ff/Decentburial.png especially in the fourth volume]], but even in the very first volume, like issue 45, which was illustrated by Dan Berger.
** The Turtles' [[DivergentCharacterEvolution unique body types]] was also something that was already done in [[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1990 the original 1990 Live-Action movie]], where Raph was the burliest, Leo was slimmer, Mike was shorter with rounder and cuter features and Don was muscular but with chubby cheeks, indicating a mix of body fat and muscle. The differences in the movie was kept subtle, while here, they are slightly exaggerated making them more pronounced.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Michelangelo is considered by the fans as being either funny or annoying. He became even more divisive with the fans after "The Croaking". Some fans felt sympathetic towards him in the episode and were happy he gained a friend while others felt like he was acting like a spoiled brat and think the punishment he received at the beginning of the episode should have increased ten fold due to his actions.
** Casey Jones is divisive among the fans. He became less so as we learned about his personality and motives. The fact that many [[DieForOurShip Apritello]] shippers jumped the ship around the time of his introduction probably helped. However, some of the fans are turned off by his antagonistic behavior towards Donatello in season three all because he likes the same girl he does. Others are put off by how often Casey seems to shrug off devasating events (such as "Annihilation: Earth!") in favor of commenting how awesome their adventures are or whining about how there's no action happening to the group at a given moment.
** Donatello himself became divisive among the fans due to his crush on April. Fans either considered his crush on April to be cute or {{Squick}}. His crush on April was initially viewed as cute and even endearing during the early part of the first season before it suddenly stopped being referenced to for a few episodes and then it came back and became extremely flanderized. More focus starts getting put on it and we get to see [[TheSmartGuy Donnie]] makes less than [[IdiotBall rational]] choices because of it. Then, there was "Operation: Breakout"; Raph tells Donnie to leave him out of his attempts to impress April (Raph clearly didn't like being used like that and was offering some [[SincerityMode advice he seemed to think was helpful]]). So what does Donnie do? He basically goes [[spoiler:on a VERY dangerous rescue mission [[TooDumbToLive by himself without telling anybody]] to get April's dad away from the Kraang. Not only that, but he almost gets himself and Mr. O'Neil killed multiple times.]] All to impress April.
** Raphael is divisive with the fans due to being a bigger jerk in this series than he's usually depicted. This has cooled off a bit though, thanks to getting HiddenDepths and toning down his behavior in later episodes.
** The Shredder is divisive among the fans for his personality in this adaptation, where his sole motivation is to kill Splinter. Some love the portrayal and how ruthless and determined he is to the point where [[spoiler:he literally stabbed Splinter in the back even though it meant the end of the world]], while others feel the show has heavily flanderized his character and miss how he was in the previous adaptations where he had other villainous ambitions in addition to wanting to destroy the Turtles and Splinter.
** The Kraang are either an interesting part of the BigBadDuumvirate, due to their connection to the Turtles' creation and their HiddenDepths, or they're just [[GenericDoomsdayVillain boring and generic]] with an [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment annoying speech impediment]]. There is also a third group who argues that they were interesting on paper, but suffered too much from MotiveDecay over the course of the show.
** April is either [[AdaptationalBadass one of the most (if not the most) badass versions of the character]] and a major {{woobie}} with interesting powers or an UnintentionallyUnsympathetic brat with an insufferable self-righteous attitude whose psychic abilities are overpowered.
** You can like Tiger Claw for being a [[PantheraAwesome badass villain]] with a [[EvenEvilHasStandards code of honor]], or getting bored at how much [[SpotlightStealingSquad he's overused]], resulting in [[DemotedToExtra demoting to extra]] Bradford/Rahzar and Xever/Fishface, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012 resulting in their characters being underveloped]].
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* CreatorsPet: Although in theory the four turtles are meant to share the role of main character together, the writers have a clear favoritism towards Leonardo because many stories have him as the protagonist, which tends to come at the other three's expense. He gets to learn techniques the others don't, is the only one to regularly take on [[BigBad the Shredder]] solo, his and Raph's [[TeethClenchedTeamwork oft-fraught relationship]] is a major element of the show, and there are ''several'' episodes wherein his brothers are taken out by the MonsterOfTheWeek so Leo can save everyone on his own. It's also noticeable that, [[{{Foil}} of the traits the turtles share with]] [[BigBad the Shredder]], Leo is the ''only'' one whose trait is even somewhat positive (them both being {{Determinator}}s) in sharp contrast to the actual negative traits Shredder shares with his brothers[[note]]Raph's violent and aggressive nature, Donnie's bordering-on-entitlement obsession with April, and Mikey's refusal to admit when anything is his fault[[/note]].

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** Rahzar and Tigerclaw strike up a friendship in "The Legend of the Kuro Kabuto" via bonding over the fact they both hate Fishface and agreeing to not let their difference in species get in the way. This is never touched on again despite the potential for an interesting VillainousFriendship.

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** The scattered mutagen supply storyline at the start of Season 2. It only lasts for 7 episodes before receiving an offhand mention in "Mazes & Mutants". Sure, there didn't have to be an adventure with every single canister and they all could've been gathered up offscreen (as pointed out in Headscratchers), but it still would've been nice to see that plotline properly resolved.
** Rahzar and Tigerclaw Tiger Claw strike up a friendship in "The Legend of the Kuro Kabuto" via bonding over the fact they both hate Fishface and agreeing to not let their difference in species get in the way. This is never touched on again despite the potential for an interesting VillainousFriendship.
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* IKnewIt:
** People have guessed that [[spoiler:Spike, Raphael's pet turtle, due to his name and being a Turtle, would wind up being mutated himself. [[http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=43592 This thread]], featuring concept art from Nick Magazine, confirms that Spike will become Slash.]]
** The revelation that [[spoiler:Karai is in fact Miwa, Splinter's biological daughter]]. The fact that character bios (likely when the series was still in development) were leaked and indicated [[spoiler:Shredder had a daughter named "Miwa", and that Splinter seemingly also had a daughter, without naming her,]] likely helped this process.
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* MagnificentBastard:
** [[EvilSorceror Savanti Romero]] is a brilliant, suave former TimeMaster who seeks control of all of time and space. Attempting to seize control of the Time Scepter, Savanti causes chaos to lure the turtles into a trap and seize it. Defeated, Savanti lays a trap to attack Renet and take her time travel device to recruit all of history's most famous supernatural monsters and help reshape humanity into monsters. Savanti manipulates the Pharaoh into his service and later preys on the emotions of both DrFrankenstein and FrankensteinsMonster to get them to do his bidding. Forcing Count {{Dracula}} under his wing, Savanti ultimately plans to transform all of humanity into monsters like himself.
** Count {{Dracula}} is the vampire lord himself, who allies with Savanti to conquer all of time. Having reigned over Transylvania for ages, Dracula agrees to an alliance with Savanti Romero and turns Raphael into his thrall, using him to outwit the rest of the Turtles regularly. After hypnotizing Frankenstein's Monster into joining them, Dracula turns Casey and April into vampires and begins spreading his vampirism across New York, using his servants' knowledge of the Turtles to ambush their hideout. Dracula schemes to betray Savanti and turn all of humankind into vampires, and he nearly succeeds, before deciding to instead put aside their differences and destroy the Turtles together.
** "The Tale of Tiger Claw": Alopex is Tiger Claw's long lost sister who seeks revenge on her sibling for their past. Mutated into her current form by Utroms, Alopex was pressured by Tiger Claw into becoming a criminal for years, until her conscience pushed her to betray and nearly murder her brother, slicing off his tail in the process. Years later, Alopex returns to New York to finish Tiger Claw off, stealing the Cursed Blades of Vengeance and testing them out on Casey with plans to curse Tiger Claw with them. Though initially an enemy of the Turtles as well, Alopex winds up teaming with them to take down Tiger Claw and save Casey's life, and though Alopex ultimately lets go of her hatred for Tiger Claw, she nonetheless slices his arm off when he tries to take advantage of her mercy.

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** [[spoiler:Kraang Prime's]] voice was this for many fans. Perhaps inevitable, considering that they were voiced by Roseanne Barr, who is known as a comedian first and the casting choice [[WTHCastingAgency was considered pretty strange to begin with.]]

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** [[spoiler:Kraang Prime's]] voice was this for many fans. Perhaps inevitable, considering that they were voiced by Roseanne Barr, who is known as a comedian first and the casting choice [[WTHCastingAgency [[QuestionableCasting was considered pretty strange to begin with.]]



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** Roseanne Barr being cast as [[spoiler:Kraang Prime]]. It may well have been intentional casting a comedian considering how ridiculous the Kraang are. Oddly enough, she and Creator/GilbertGottfried play their roles completely straight.
** Some fans are wondering this about the showing having Creator/KevinMichaelRichardson provide the voice the 1987 Shredder for the crossover in the fifth season. While it's understandable that James Avery, Shredder's primary voice for most of the 1987 series' run, could not return due to passing away a few years prior, some 1987 fans are wondering why one of his surviving voice actors, such as Dorian Harewood, Townsend Coleman, or Creator/JimCummings, was not used instead.
** Seth Green as Leonardo. While Dominic Catrambone replacing Jason Biggs was also initially controversial, he at least sounded nearly identical to him while Green sounds far too different from Biggs. The series does at least give an InUniverse explanation of [[spoiler:Leo's vocal cords being damaged]].
** The Greek dub has Michelangelo [[CrossDressingVoices voiced by]] [[Creator/VoulaKosta a woman]] using a boyish tone [[note]]akin to her roles as [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Ash Ketchum]] and [[WesternAnimation/{{Recess}} T.J. Detweiler]][[/note]]. Given that Mike, unlike the actress' other roles that use that tone, is a teenager, this can come off as really unfitting and {{Narm}}y.



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** Roseanne Barr being cast as [[spoiler:Kraang Prime]]. It may well have been intentional casting a comedian considering how ridiculous the Kraang are. Oddly enough, she and Creator/GilbertGottfried play their roles completely straight.
** Some fans are wondering this about the showing having Creator/KevinMichaelRichardson provide the voice the 1987 Shredder for the crossover in the fifth season. While it's understandable that James Avery, Shredder's primary voice for most of the 1987 series' run, could not return due to passing away a few years prior, some 1987 fans are wondering why one of his surviving voice actors, such as Dorian Harewood, Townsend Coleman, or Creator/JimCummings, was not used instead.
** Seth Green as Leonardo. While Dominic Catrambone replacing Jason Biggs was also initially controversial, he at least sounded nearly identical to him while Green sounds far too different from Biggs. The series does at least give an InUniverse explanation of [[spoiler:Leo's vocal cords being damaged]].
** The Greek dub has Michelangelo [[CrossDressingVoices voiced by]] [[Creator/VoulaKosta a woman]] using a boyish tone [[note]]akin to her roles as [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Ash Ketchum]] and [[WesternAnimation/{{Recess}} T.J. Detweiler]][[/note]]. Given that Mike, unlike the actress' other roles that use that tone, is a teenager, this can come off as really unfitting and {{Narm}}y.
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** Mikey himself gets this treatment too. First, a Kraang lands on his face akin to a [[Franchise/Alien Face-Hugger]], and then he ends up being [[BrokenPedestal manipulated by the very person he admired]].

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** Mikey himself gets this treatment too. treatment. First, a Kraang lands on his face akin to a [[Franchise/Alien Face-Hugger]], and then he ends up being [[BrokenPedestal manipulated by the very person he admired]].his idol Chris Bradford]].
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** Mikey himself gets this treatment too. First, a Kraang lands on his face akin to a [[Franchise/Alien Face-Hugger]], and then he ends up being [[BrokenPedestal manipulated by the very person he admired]].
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* ShipToShipCombat: There’s a lot of hostility between Casey/April and Donatello/April shippers. Capril shippers often point to them being an OfficialCouple in other incarnations and Donnie’s StalkerWithACrush moments, some even arguing it’d be {{Squick}}y for April to end up with a mutant. Apritello shippers usually argue that it’d be more fresh for April to end up with someone besides Casey, as well as point out that Donnie eventually outgrows his stalking, and claim it sends a bad message to say April shouldn’t get with Donnie because he’s different. Both sides [[AntiShippingGoggles will refuse to acknowledge anytime April shows interest in the other guy]].

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* ShipToShipCombat: There’s a lot of hostility between Casey/April and Donatello/April shippers. Capril shippers often point to them being an OfficialCouple in other incarnations and Donnie’s StalkerWithACrush moments, some even arguing it’d be {{Squick}}y for April to end up with a mutant. Apritello shippers usually argue that it’d be more fresh for April to end up with someone besides Casey, as well as point out that Donnie eventually outgrows his stalking, and claim it sends a bad message to say April shouldn’t get with Donnie because he’s different. Both sides [[AntiShippingGoggles will refuse to acknowledge anytime April shows interest in the other guy]].guy.
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** You can like Tiger Claw for being a [[PantheraAwesome badass villain]] with a [[EvenEvilHasStandards code of honor]], or getting bored at how much [[SpotlightStealingSquad he's overused]], resulting in [[DemotedToExtra demoting to extra]] Bradford/Rahzar and Xever/Fishface, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012 resulting in their characters being underveloped]].
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*** Likewise, [[https://www.bitchmedia.org/post/behind-the-yellow-jumpsuit-a-retrospective-of-april-o’neil-1984-—-2014 this article]] analyses how April goes from a passive character to a competent badass in this show. The article doesn't even acknowledge the existence of the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003 the 2003 animated series]], where April started training in martial arts and TookALevelInBadass by the third season.
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** Lord Dregg, the antagonist of the largely disliked final two seasons of the 1987 ''TMNT'' series, is one of the {{Arc Villain}}s of the fourth season.
** The fifth season, ''Tales of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'', features a reinvention of Tatsu from the [[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1990 1990 film]], who hadn't shown up in the franchise since the 1992 ''Hyperstone Heist'' video game.

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season. Also, who was expecting to get Bellybomb from the Archie comic series of all people as a MonsterOfTheWeek? Pizza Face, a ToylineExclusiveCharacter, was another deep cut.
** The fifth season, ''Tales of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'', features a reinvention of Tatsu from the [[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1990 1990 film]], who not only hadn't shown up in the franchise since the 1992 ''Hyperstone Heist'' video game.game, but had previously been assumed to be ExiledFromContinuity due to rights issues with Golden Harvest.

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* [[Monster/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles Complete Monster]]


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* CompleteMonster:
** [[HiveQueen Kraang Prime]] is a demented, [[TheUnfettered relentless]] Utrom scientist and the main antagonist for the first three seasons. After being exposed to mutagen, Kraang Prime developed psychic powers and used said powers to brainwash millions of peaceful Utroms, renaming them all "[[Characters/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012TheKraang The Kraang]]". Seeking to conquer the universe, Kraang Prime [[TheManBehindTheMan used the Kraang]] to invade or destroy planets before targeting Earth. Kraang Prime then spent thousands of years experimenting on and torturing human beings in an attempt to terraform Earth into another Dimension X. Using New York City as a petri dish, Kraang Prime repeatedly attacked and tried to turn the city into a giant colony of mutants, and eventually succeeded and transported millions of mutated citizens to Dimension X. Kraang Prime later tried to mutate the entire planet with a giant missile full of mutagen; after this attempt failed, Kraang Prime tried one final time to TakeOverTheWorld with the remaining Kraang soldiers.
** "[[Recap/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012S4E4TheOutlawArmaggon The Outlaw Armaggon!]]": [[AIIsACrapshoot Overmind]] is a malicious AI [[{{Pride}} convinced of his own superiority]], who overthrew and killed off most of his factory's crew upon gaining sapience. When reactivated by the BountyHunter Armaggon, Overmind immediately overrides Professor Honeycutt's mind to assume control of his body and attempts to [[UnwillingRoboticisation forcibly roboticize the Turtles and their friends]]. Eventually, Overmind betrays even Armaggon, revealing his plan to use an army of Warbots to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out all organic life across the galaxy]] and pave the way for Overmind's own technological rule, trying to simply kill Honeycutt and the Turtles when they stand in his way.
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** Michelangelo's tendency to overlook the obvious while noticing inane details, his [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny short attention span]], his [[CordonBleughChef unusual palette]] (the various unusual toppings he includes in his pizza), his tendency to forget basic things in-spite having a PhotographicMemory and [[BunnyEarsLawyer his ability to adapt to strange and unusual things faster than his brothers]] (like how to handle a feral Leatherhead and Dimension X's bizarro nature) all imply that he could have some form of autism.

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** Michelangelo's tendency to overlook the obvious while noticing inane details, his [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny short attention span]], his [[CordonBleughChef unusual palette]] palate]] (the various unusual toppings he includes in his pizza), his tendency to forget basic things in-spite of having a PhotographicMemory and [[BunnyEarsLawyer his ability to adapt to strange and unusual things faster than his brothers]] (like how to handle a feral Leatherhead and Dimension X's bizarro nature) all imply that he could have some form of autism. autism.
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** The changes to Bishop's character tend to be pretty divisive for fans of [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003 his original self]] (who was a EnsembleDarkHorse in his original incarnation).

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** The changes to Bishop's character tend to be pretty divisive for fans of [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003 his original self]] (who was a EnsembleDarkHorse in his original incarnation). Ditto Hun, who was a [[TheBigGuy huge]] GeniusBruiser in the 2003 series, is turned into an InNameOnly BruceLeeClone here.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs:
** "Pizza Face" is this trope in a nutshell.
** The (obviously non-canon) Ice Cream Kitty Official Music Video (viewable [[https://youtu.be/s0h5jUYLV8I here]]) has some rather trippy visuals and features the turtles and April having a dance off with Shredder and a plethora of enemies from the rogues gallery.
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* LoveToHate: Dr. Falco is batshit insane and will hurt anyone for his own goals, but fans adore him for his darkness and being voiced by Creator/JeffreyCombs.

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* LoveToHate: Dr. Falco is batshit insane and will hurt anyone for his own goals, but fans adore him for his darkness how terrifyingly dark he is and being voiced by Creator/JeffreyCombs.
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* LoveToHate: Dr. Falco is batshit insane and will hurt anyone for his own goals, but fans adore him for his darkness and being voiced by Creator/JeffreyCombs.
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** The fifth season, ''Tales of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'', features a reinvention of Tatsu from the [[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles 1990 film]], who hadn't shown up in the franchise since the 1992 ''Hyperstone Heist'' video game.

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** The fifth season, ''Tales of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'', features a reinvention of Tatsu from the [[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles [[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1990 1990 film]], who hadn't shown up in the franchise since the 1992 ''Hyperstone Heist'' video game.
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** In their [[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles first appearance in the franchise]], Tokka and Rahzar were considered to be [[ReplacementScrappy Replacement Scrappies]] for Bebop and Rocksteady. In this adaptation, Tokka gets a large case of AdaptationalBadass and Rahzar becomes a fleshed out character with a different backstory and more personality.

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** In their [[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles [[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesIITheSecretOfTheOoze first appearance in the franchise]], Tokka and Rahzar were considered to be [[ReplacementScrappy Replacement Scrappies]] for Bebop and Rocksteady. In this adaptation, Tokka gets a large case of AdaptationalBadass and Rahzar becomes a fleshed out character with a different backstory and more personality.

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* FanDislikedExplanation: A lot of fans regard the "Raphael: Mutant Apocalypse" three-parter, which was originally intended to feature the final chronological events in the series ([[WordOfGod according]] to showrunner Ciro Nieli), as more of an "{{Elseworld}}" take on a possible future for the Turtles rather than the canonical future for the series due to how it renders a lot of the series' events and many of the struggles the Turtles have faced [[ShaggyDogStory pointless]]. Not to mention the serious [[SeriesContinuityError continuity errors]] and the disposal of the main female characters. At least two of the other crew members and even Nickelodeon themselves [[https://twitter.com/TMNT/status/912354814402744322 seem to agree]] with the [[WordOfGod latter advertising the arc]] as [[https://twitter.com/TMNT/status/911251308409212928 "a 'Tale' from Beyond"]] before officially stating it as being [[https://web.archive.org/web/20180411044724/http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Tales-V3-Final-Chapters/23776 another dimension]] and [[https://twitter.com/TMNT/status/1046829886667730945 "alternate possibilities."]] [[WordOfGod Brandon Auman]] even chimed in by saying that it was [[https://twitter.com/auman_brandon/status/955529834192502784 "for the audience to decide"]] whether it was an AU or canon, and that it [[https://twitter.com/auman_brandon/status/958767414342172672 could be regarded as an AU]].


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* FanonDiscontinuity: A lot of fans regard the "Raphael: Mutant Apocalypse" three-parter, which was originally intended to feature the final chronological events in the series ([[WordOfGod according]] to showrunner Ciro Nieli), as more of an "{{Elseworld}}" take on a possible future for the Turtles rather than the canonical future for the series due to how it renders a lot of the series' events and many of the struggles the Turtles have faced [[ShaggyDogStory pointless]]. Not to mention the serious [[SeriesContinuityError continuity errors]] and the disposal of the main female characters. At least two of the other crew members and even Nickelodeon themselves [[https://twitter.com/TMNT/status/912354814402744322 seem to agree]] with the [[WordOfGod latter advertising the arc]] as [[https://twitter.com/TMNT/status/911251308409212928 "a 'Tale' from Beyond"]] before officially stating it as being [[https://web.archive.org/web/20180411044724/http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Tales-V3-Final-Chapters/23776 another dimension]] and [[https://twitter.com/TMNT/status/1046829886667730945 "alternate possibilities."]] [[WordOfGod Brandon Auman]] even chimed in by saying that it was [[https://twitter.com/auman_brandon/status/955529834192502784 "for the audience to decide"]] whether it was an AU or canon, and that it [[https://twitter.com/auman_brandon/status/958767414342172672 could be regarded as an AU]].
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** A lot of fans jumped the Leonardo/Karai ship when it was revealed in-universe that Karai is in fact Splinter's long-lost daughter. While the two weren't raised together, and it's not entirely clear in canon if the turtles' human DNA came from a pre-mutation Splinter or not, the implication of an incestrous relationship, even simply an emotional one, was disliked by a rather large portion of the fanbase. While the ShipTease between the two [[FlirtyStepSiblings continues unabated]] despite the reveal, and they never eacknowledge each other as siblings, Mikey ''does'' refer to her as their sister several times. As a result the relationship causes no end of squick for those who abandoned the ship. Meanwhile, some fans point out that Karai's flirtations with Leo often comes off as a manipulation tactic rather than anything genuine, making the ship feel too one-sided to support for those who aren't already turned off by the potential incestrous nature of the ship.

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** A lot of fans jumped the Leonardo/Karai ship when it was revealed in-universe that Karai is in fact Splinter's long-lost daughter. While the two weren't raised together, and it's not entirely clear in canon if the turtles' human DNA came from a pre-mutation Splinter or not, the implication of an incestrous relationship, even simply an emotional one, was disliked by a rather large portion of the fanbase. While the ShipTease between the two [[FlirtyStepSiblings continues unabated]] despite the reveal, and they never eacknowledge acknowledge each other as siblings, Mikey ''does'' refer to her as their sister several times. As a result the relationship causes no end of squick for those who abandoned the ship. Meanwhile, some fans point out that Karai's flirtations with Leo often comes off as a manipulation tactic rather than anything genuine, making the ship feel too one-sided to support for those who aren't already turned off by the potential incestrous nature of the ship.

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* [[MoralEventHorizon/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles Moral Event Horizon]]



* MoralEventHorizon: See the right section of [[MoralEventHorizon/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles this page]] for the examples.

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* TheWoobie:
** Poor, poor Kirby. The guy just can't catch a break.
** April. In season one, the worst thing that happens to her is her dad getting kidnapped. Things get even worse for her starting in season two.



* TheWoobie:
** Poor, poor Kirby. The guy just can't catch a break.
** April. In season one, the worst thing that happens to her is her dad getting kidnapped. Things get even worse for her starting in season two.
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*** In the fourth season, Karai gains a friend and partner in the form of Shinigami and cares enough about her that even her [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge anger and hate]] for Shredder isn't enough for her to risk Shinigami's life. Calling each other [[AffectionateNickname "Shini"]] and [[SenpaiKohai Sempai]] makes it very clear they mean a lot to each other, either platonically or romantically.

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*** In the fourth season, Karai gains a friend and partner in the form of Shinigami and cares enough about her that even her [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge anger and hate]] for Shredder isn't enough for her to risk Shinigami's life. Calling each other [[AffectionateNickname "Shini"]] and [[SenpaiKohai [[UsefulNotes/JapaneseHonorifics Sempai]] makes it very clear they mean a lot to each other, either platonically or romantically.
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** One of the arcs in this series includes April procuring an ancient crystal housing the soul of an evil Aeon try to possess her. This is actually the ''second'' time this has happened in the franchise, her [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 1987]] counterpart being possessed by the Queen of Atlantis via a necklace in "[[Recap/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987S07E06RingOfFire Ring of Fire]]".

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* CaptainObviousReveal: Just about every fan guessed at one point that Karai was really Miwa, Splinter's biological daughter. This stems from the fact that Karai has never been biologically related to the Shredder in any adaptation and her status as his adoptive daughter is a relatively new concept for TMNT adaptations (it originated from the 2003 series). Plus, Karai was in the general age range of how old Miwa would be had she survived to the present day. The excessive {{foreshadowing}} (for example, having Karai use the name "Harmony" as an alias since "Miwa" means "beautiful harmony") sealed the deal for most fans, thus there was little shock when it was eventually confirmed in "Showdown".

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* CaptainObviousReveal: Just about every fan guessed at one point that Karai was really Miwa, Splinter's biological daughter. This stems from the fact that Karai has never been biologically related to the Shredder in any adaptation and her status as his adoptive daughter is a relatively new concept for TMNT adaptations (it originated from the 2003 series). Plus, Karai was in the general age range of how old Miwa would be had she survived to the present day. The excessive {{foreshadowing}} (for example, having Karai use the name "Harmony" as an alias since "Miwa" means "beautiful harmony") sealed the deal for most fans, thus there was little shock fans; if anything, this played out more like an InternalReveal when it was eventually confirmed in "Showdown"."Showdown".
** Even without knowing any Japanese or about any of the other iterations of Karai in the franchise, her actual origins weren't that difficult to surmise from the circumstantial evidence: after the LoveTriangle between Splinter, his wife, and Shredder ended in her death and the revival of the deadly ancient rivalry between their clans, Shredder is demonstrated to be absolutely obsessed with revenge on his rival and never shown to be the least bit interested in having any other women as a potential LoveInterest in his life. There's essentially no obvious reason why he would adopt ''anyone'' as his own child other than as a means of getting a twisted kind of revenge on his enemy, and who else but Splinter's daughter Miwa [[NeverFoundTheBody (never actually shown to have perished in the blaze that consumed her family's home)]] would fit those criteria?

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