History YMMV / SupermanVSTheElite

*** However, the Elite don't understand global politics, and that where would the Elite stop if the people of a nation insist on having the same rulers? Kill the people? The Elite are astoundingly [[DidntThinkThisThrough short-sighted]].

** This is also what Superman believes he would cross over if he behaved like the Elite do. And judging by ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', he's right.

** Manchester Black is portrayed in the wrong for arguing MightMakesRight. However, Superman only succeeds because he manages to overpower the Elite his his superior powers.

*** However, the Elite don't care about collateral damage. They also don't understand global politics, and that where would the Elite stop if the people of a nation insist on having the same rulers? Kill the people? The Elite are astoundingly [[DidntThinkThisThrough short-sighted]].

** Manchester Black argues MightMakesRight. However, Superman only succeeds because he manages to overpower the Elite his his superior powers.

* HarsherInHindsight: Superman's disapproval of the Elite's means in light of ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' which has [[spoiler:an alternate Superman using similar methods after a FaceHeelTurn after the Joker tricked him into killing Lois Lane and their unborn child, which in turn led to Metropolis being nuked]]. The fact that Creator/GeorgeNewbern reprised the role again in the game adds to the harshness. Not only that, but Newbern did it in the voice of one of the most well-known examples of FallenHero ever: [[FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth.]]

* BetterThanCanon: Widely preferred to the comic book storyline it's based on.

** You can simply call it NarmCharm, but yes. Because that's the entire point of the movie. Superman is the ultimate idealist, and he says those words with utmost sincerity. Which make them something ''more'' than just a 'cheesy' coda. They're a statement of belief, of utter idealism against the utter cynicism The Elite have been espousing for the entire movie.

* BrokenAesop: Some feel that [[spoiler: Superman depowering the Elite]] goes against the moral of the story (it also did not happen in the comics) since he either couldn't or didn't use such a solution on any of the other hundreds of superhuman homicidal maniacs he's went up against over the years; it might work on ''them'', but they could still be right about most other villains in the [=DC=] universe. Furthermore, the fact that Superman could have [[spoiler: depowered Black at any time in their final fight]], means he fought a highly destructive [[spoiler: if partially staged]] battle in Metropolis just to make a point and a speech also goes against what he was saying- he won precisely by terrifying everyone on the planet into doing things "his way", even if his way was the path of non-violence.

* StrawmanHasAPoint/ RootingForTheEmpire: Manchester Black may be a WellIntentionedExtremist [[WhatTheHellHero lambasted]] by Superman for his unethical and amoral methods, but it's also shown that some of his questionable actions have prevented worse harm in the future.

*** FalseDichotomy: Superman's job isn't to govern. In fact, Black proves Superman right when Black decides ''he's'' going to be judge, jury and executioner. How is he going to force governments to do what he wants? What if the ''populace'' doesn't want to follow his lead? Can you say "genocide"?

-->'''Superman:''' You can't murder people and call yourselves heroes!
-->'''Manchester Black:''' Why not? Your government does it all the time.

** This debate is very old. Both sides present valid arguments, but both sides views are also flawed as well. Superman's side was deconstructed in the first half, The Elite's side deconstructed in the second half. While the film does pick Superman's side, in the end, the movie presents valid arguments from both sides for viewers to interpret for themselves. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And let's leave it at that]].

** Most likely this is because this is just a one-shot movie of a popular story and not an episode of a TV-Show, so it's not that expected to make another movie based on these characters.

** [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped Yes]], especially since he did so in the original story.

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: A lot of fans dislike the change of [[spoiler:Superman actually depowering the Elite (he only had them imprisonned in the comic)]], as they felt it kinda went against his point.

* HarsherInHindsight: Superman's disapproval of the Elite's means in light of ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' which has [[spoiler:an alternate Superman using similar methods after a FaceHeelTurn after the Joker tricked him into killing Lois Lane and their unborn child, which in turn led to Metropolis being nuked]]. The fact that Creator/GeorgeNewbern reprised the role again in the game adds to the harshness.

* FauxSymbolism: More subtle than most with the Superman-as-Christ symbolism, but Clark tells Lois that someone has to show them that killing and violence at any cost. Lois responds that it means dying for them to understand.

* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Like the story it's based on, the film, the film seemingly hand-waved the ideal that killing is wrong regardless of how justified within the first half, but later on when Superman pretends to adopt the take-no-prisoners approach, everyone's initial reaction was "This isn't right". The true anvil was that society does not always know what's best for it and that they need guidance, not the threat of punishment to progress.

** You might want to consider The Elite '''''forcibly enslaved a sentient being to their will''''', and said being was suffering AndIMustScream. Superman freed the creature from its torment.
** There's also this:
--->'''Superman:''' You can't kill people and continue to call yourselves heroes.
--->'''Manchester Black:''' Why not? [[NotSoDifferent Your government does it all the time.]]
*** However, that's a classic strawman point. Superman never pretended to write laws, or govern a populace.
** Manchester also says that the Elite will be safe from Superman if they are with "the sheep" (that is, innocent people). They're counting on Superman not causing the collateral damage that ''they'' have no problem with.