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* MemeticMutation:
** Shiony became one of the most memetic characters in franchise, rivaling [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsK Mist Rex]] for the top slot, after her appearance: look at how much fanart exists of her compared to how little there is for the other ''Hakai-hen'' originals. However, unlike Mist (who owes it due to being TheScrappy), Shiony's memetic status is due to the fanbase realizing how she acts tough while being a ShrinkingViolet, overreacting to just about anything; in turn, the fandom latched onto her personality quirks and ran with it, as opposed to being the result of an accidental rumor in Mist's case. WordOfGod even acknowledged her memetic status by using her portrait in ''Saisei-hen'' for a civilian met in-game. Some fans actually find her {{Moe}} due to being an IneffectualSympatheticVillain (she's upstaged by her villainous partners, nor is she that hard of a boss when fought against).
** If the number of fanart is considered, [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ2 Marguerite Pistail]] and her large chest come at a close second for the ''Z'' trilogy.
** Crowe's million-dollar debt[[labelnote:Explanation]]InUniverse, Crowe pilots the "Brasta" to work off his enormous financial debt; unfortunately, he continues to accumulate ''more'' debt by way of DisasterDominoes and an expensive MidSeasonUpgrade to the Brasta.[[/labelnote]]
** "Wrong Tetsujin!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]Stems from the fan reaction to the 1980s series being used over the original or 2004 one[[/labelnote]].
** Who needs complex animation when you have Anime/{{Godmars}}??[[labelnote:Explanation]]In order to preserve the animation quality as it was during the show airing, Godmars starting from ''[=Z2=]'' came off as less animated than any other series. It is still a powerful Super Robot all around, and ''much'' more powerful than its performance in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsDestiny'' where its armor couldn't help against the overly high damage of the enemies there. Cue people worshipping Godmars as an unmoving God that can solve problems without even moving a limb or at best, just using miniscule animation. [[/labelnote]]
** That one doujin [[labelnote:Explanation]] A doujinshi of [[Anime/CodeGeass Kallen]], [[Anime/DancougarNova Aoi]] and [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shinji]] having *ahem* [[PornWithoutPlot fun]] *ahem* has reached memetic levels on [[Website/FourChan /m/]], in no small part due to the two fan-favorite redheads getting interaction and being plain... [[MsFanservice steamy]]. Every once in a while, an anon would post the first page of the doujin (which has poor Shinji rather neatly sandwiched in between Kallen and Aoi) and ask something along the lines of "Translation WHEN". Eventually /m/ got sick of the wait for "the doujin" and translated it themselves thanks to a few anons who know Japanese. As of late 2020, if you look on the right places, you can find it with relative ease. [[/labelnote]]
** Shiony became one of the most memetic characters in franchise, rivaling [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsK Mist Rex]] for the top slot, after her appearance: look at how much fanart exists of her compared to how little there is for the other ''Hakai-hen'' originals. However, unlike Mist (who owes it due to being TheScrappy), Shiony's memetic status is due to the fanbase realizing how she acts tough while being a ShrinkingViolet, overreacting to just about anything; in turn, the fandom latched onto her personality quirks and ran with it, as opposed to being the result of an accidental rumor in Mist's case. WordOfGod even acknowledged her memetic status by using her portrait in ''Saisei-hen'' for a civilian met in-game. Some fans actually find her {{Moe}} due to being an IneffectualSympatheticVillain (she's upstaged by her villainous partners, nor is she that hard of a boss when fought against).
** If the number of fanart is considered, [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ2 Marguerite Pistail]] and her large chest come at a close second for the ''Z'' trilogy.
** Crowe's million-dollar debt[[labelnote:Explanation]]InUniverse, Crowe pilots the "Brasta" to work off his enormous financial debt; unfortunately, he continues to accumulate ''more'' debt by way of DisasterDominoes and an expensive MidSeasonUpgrade to the Brasta.[[/labelnote]]
** "Wrong Tetsujin!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]Stems from the fan reaction to the 1980s series being used over the original or 2004 one[[/labelnote]].
** Who needs complex animation when you have Anime/{{Godmars}}??[[labelnote:Explanation]]In order to preserve the animation quality as it was during the show airing, Godmars starting from ''[=Z2=]'' came off as less animated than any other series. It is still a powerful Super Robot all around, and ''much'' more powerful than its performance in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsDestiny'' where its armor couldn't help against the overly high damage of the enemies there. Cue people worshipping Godmars as an unmoving God that can solve problems without even moving a limb or at best, just using miniscule animation. [[/labelnote]]
** That one doujin [[labelnote:Explanation]] A doujinshi of [[Anime/CodeGeass Kallen]], [[Anime/DancougarNova Aoi]] and [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shinji]] having *ahem* [[PornWithoutPlot fun]] *ahem* has reached memetic levels on [[Website/FourChan /m/]], in no small part due to the two fan-favorite redheads getting interaction and being plain... [[MsFanservice steamy]]. Every once in a while, an anon would post the first page of the doujin (which has poor Shinji rather neatly sandwiched in between Kallen and Aoi) and ask something along the lines of "Translation WHEN". Eventually /m/ got sick of the wait for "the doujin" and translated it themselves thanks to a few anons who know Japanese. As of late 2020, if you look on the right places, you can find it with relative ease. [[/labelnote]]
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* MemeticMutation:
** Shiony became one of the most memetic characters in franchise, rivaling [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsK Mist Rex]] for the top slot, after her appearance: look at how much fanart exists of her compared to how little there is for the other ''Hakai-hen'' originals. However, unlike Mist (who owes it due to being TheScrappy), Shiony's memetic status is due to the fanbase realizing how she acts tough while being a ShrinkingViolet, overreacting to just about anything; in turn, the fandom latched onto her personality quirks and ranMemeticMutation: Now with it, as opposed to being the result of an accidental rumor in Mist's case. WordOfGod even acknowledged her memetic status by using her portrait in ''Saisei-hen'' for a civilian met in-game. Some fans actually find her {{Moe}} due to being an IneffectualSympatheticVillain (she's upstaged by her villainous partners, nor is she that hard of a boss when fought against).
** If the number of fanart is considered, [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ2 Marguerite Pistail]] and her large chest come at a close second for the ''Z'' trilogy.
** Crowe's million-dollar debt[[labelnote:Explanation]]InUniverse, Crowe pilots the "Brasta" to work off his enormous financial debt; unfortunately, he continues to accumulate ''more'' debt by way of DisasterDominoes and an expensive MidSeasonUpgrade to the Brasta.[[/labelnote]]
** "Wrong Tetsujin!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]Stems from the fan reaction to the 1980s series being used over the original or 2004 one[[/labelnote]].
** Who needs complex animation when you have Anime/{{Godmars}}??[[labelnote:Explanation]]In order to preserve the animation quality as it was during the show airing, Godmars starting from ''[=Z2=]'' came off as less animated than any other series. It is still a powerful Super Robot all around, and ''much'' more powerful thanits performance in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsDestiny'' where its armor couldn't help against the overly high damage of the enemies there. Cue people worshipping Godmars as an unmoving God that can solve problems without even moving a limb or at best, just using miniscule animation. [[/labelnote]]
** That one doujin [[labelnote:Explanation]] A doujinshi of [[Anime/CodeGeass Kallen]], [[Anime/DancougarNova Aoi]] and [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shinji]] having *ahem* [[PornWithoutPlot fun]] *ahem* has reached memetic levels on [[Website/FourChan /m/]], in no small part due to the two fan-favorite redheads getting interaction and being plain... [[MsFanservice steamy]]. Every once in a while, an anon would post the first page of the doujin (which has poor Shinji rather neatly sandwiched in between Kallen and Aoi) and ask something along the lines of "Translation WHEN". Eventually /m/ got sick of the wait for "the doujin" and translated it themselves thanks to a few anons who know Japanese. As of late 2020, if you look on the right places, you can find it with relative ease. [[/labelnote]]own [[Memes/SuperRobotWars page]].
** Shiony became one of the most memetic characters in franchise, rivaling [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsK Mist Rex]] for the top slot, after her appearance: look at how much fanart exists of her compared to how little there is for the other ''Hakai-hen'' originals. However, unlike Mist (who owes it due to being TheScrappy), Shiony's memetic status is due to the fanbase realizing how she acts tough while being a ShrinkingViolet, overreacting to just about anything; in turn, the fandom latched onto her personality quirks and ran
** If the number of fanart is considered, [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ2 Marguerite Pistail]] and her large chest come at a close second for the ''Z'' trilogy.
** Crowe's million-dollar debt[[labelnote:Explanation]]InUniverse, Crowe pilots the "Brasta" to work off his enormous financial debt; unfortunately, he continues to accumulate ''more'' debt by way of DisasterDominoes and an expensive MidSeasonUpgrade to the Brasta.[[/labelnote]]
** "Wrong Tetsujin!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]Stems from the fan reaction to the 1980s series being used over the original or 2004 one[[/labelnote]].
** Who needs complex animation when you have Anime/{{Godmars}}??[[labelnote:Explanation]]In order to preserve the animation quality as it was during the show airing, Godmars starting from ''[=Z2=]'' came off as less animated than any other series. It is still a powerful Super Robot all around, and ''much'' more powerful than
** That one doujin [[labelnote:Explanation]] A doujinshi of [[Anime/CodeGeass Kallen]], [[Anime/DancougarNova Aoi]] and [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Shinji]] having *ahem* [[PornWithoutPlot fun]] *ahem* has reached memetic levels on [[Website/FourChan /m/]], in no small part due to the two fan-favorite redheads getting interaction and being plain... [[MsFanservice steamy]]. Every once in a while, an anon would post the first page of the doujin (which has poor Shinji rather neatly sandwiched in between Kallen and Aoi) and ask something along the lines of "Translation WHEN". Eventually /m/ got sick of the wait for "the doujin" and translated it themselves thanks to a few anons who know Japanese. As of late 2020, if you look on the right places, you can find it with relative ease. [[/labelnote]]
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** On the villains' side, we have [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Asakim Dowin]] and his incredibly catchy "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O_1WNsvGZM Black Stranger]]". Likewise, there's the strangely heroic-sounding "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAl-MxsHFpk Untrue Crystal]]", as well as the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y2dL3LAstk various]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM0y7KpuauQ Ark]]-[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNusv4Wu-cY&feature=related Saber]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcwW_hYlULY&feature=related themes]], [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg plus]] "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpNYYJfHhV0&feature=relmfu The Song of the Homicidal Doll]]". Finally, [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ2 Uther Insaraum]] and "The King's Love is for His People" [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCUeVmboXtk&feature=relmfu may be one of the best]] boss {{Leitmotif}}s in [=SRW=] to date.
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** On the villains' side, we have [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Asakim Dowin]] Dowin and his incredibly catchy "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O_1WNsvGZM Black Stranger]]". Likewise, there's the strangely heroic-sounding "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAl-MxsHFpk Untrue Crystal]]", as well as the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y2dL3LAstk various]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM0y7KpuauQ Ark]]-[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNusv4Wu-cY&feature=related Saber]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcwW_hYlULY&feature=related themes]], [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg plus]] "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpNYYJfHhV0&feature=relmfu The Song of the Homicidal Doll]]". Finally, [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ2 Uther Insaraum]] and "The King's Love is for His People" [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCUeVmboXtk&feature=relmfu may be one of the best]] boss {{Leitmotif}}s in [=SRW=] to date.
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** One of the reasons for the divide of whether ''Tengoku-hen'' was worthy of a GrandFinale installment like ''Alpha 3'' or not was that many characters [[BackFromTheDead killed in previous installments returned for this game]], most without much explanation and/or HandWaving. Naturally, the latter is seen as lazy, shoddy writing, earning the writers flak for skimping out on {{Crossover}} material.
** Background information regarding [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Asakim Dowin]] had been rewritten in ''Tengoku-hen'', so much that it has little to no relation to the description seen in the character's profile back in the ''first game'', particularly [[spoiler:the "sins" he mentions throughout the saga]]. The fact that this character's final line of dialogue is [[spoiler:a parallel to the opening lyrics of "Neppu! Shippu! Cybuster!", the {{Leitmotif}} belonging to [[Characters/MasouKishin Masaki Andoh]]]], triggering an abundance of WildMassGuessing and MindScrew for many players, has led them to point towards WriterCopOut for neglecting built-up origins in favor of {{Retcon}}s.
* FanNickname: See [[FanNickname/SuperRobotWars here]] for the entries.
** One of the reasons for the divide of whether ''Tengoku-hen'' was worthy of a GrandFinale installment like ''Alpha 3'' or not was that many characters [[BackFromTheDead killed in previous installments returned for this game]], most without much explanation and/or HandWaving. Naturally, the latter is seen as lazy, shoddy writing, earning the writers flak for skimping out on {{Crossover}} material.
** Background information regarding [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Asakim Dowin]] had been rewritten in ''Tengoku-hen'', so much that it has little to no relation to the description seen in the character's profile back in the ''first game'', particularly [[spoiler:the "sins" he mentions throughout the saga]]. The fact that this character's final line of dialogue is [[spoiler:a parallel to the opening lyrics of "Neppu! Shippu! Cybuster!", the {{Leitmotif}} belonging to [[Characters/MasouKishin Masaki Andoh]]]], triggering an abundance of WildMassGuessing and MindScrew for many players, has led them to point towards WriterCopOut for neglecting built-up origins in favor of {{Retcon}}s.
* FanNickname: See [[FanNickname/SuperRobotWars here]] for the entries.
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* FanNickname: See [[FanNickname/SuperRobotWars here]] for the entries.
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* HeartwarmingInHindsight: If [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny Stella]] was obtained, she has a support attack for Shinn where she says she will protect him. [[spoiler:In the film ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDFreedom SEED Freedom]]'', Stella's spirit appears to protect Shinn from the Black Knights. Whether it is in life or death, Stella will always try and protect Shinn where she can]].
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** According to Terada in episode 527 of the ''Super Robot Wars'' radio show, Umasugi Wave, ''Anime/TheBraveExpressMightGaine'' was going to debut in ''Z'' rather than its final debut which was in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsV''.
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** According to Terada in episode 527 of the ''Super Robot Wars'' radio show, Umasugi Wave, ''Anime/TheBraveExpressMightGaine'' was going to debut in ''Z'' rather than its final ''Z''. Its actual debut which was ended up being in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsV''.
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** The ''Second Z'' duology being on a handheld attracted a large number of complaints, as well as the removal of the "TRI-Battle System". A combination of these two things has also limited returning series to their key cast members and units only. Additionally, the fact [[WhatCouldHaveBeen it was planned to be a PlayStation 2 game]] had some fans upset, as the Sony UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable is seen as a downgrade in terms of graphical capabilities.
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** The ''Second Z'' duology being on a handheld attracted a large number of complaints, as well as the removal of the "TRI-Battle System". A combination of these two things has also limited returning series to their key cast members and units only. Additionally, the fact [[WhatCouldHaveBeen it was planned to be a PlayStation 2 game]] had some fans upset, as the Sony UsefulNotes/PlayStationPortable Platform/PlayStationPortable is seen as a downgrade in terms of graphical capabilities.
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** Heine from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny'' appeared to be an intended playable character, given that his GOUF Ignited has fully animated battle sprites and that he has his own cut-in [[https://youtu.be/RdLpXu3t95c?t=215 which can be seen here]][[note]]The GOUF Ignited does make an appearance in battle albeit in a scripted one where it gets shot down[[/note]]. Heine's lack of playability is likely because of needing to hire CelebrityVoiceActor Music/TMRevolution to reprise the role as he is playable in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsK'' and ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsL L]]'' on the DS where there is no voiced lines.
** According to Terada in episode 527 of the ''Super Robot Wars'' radio show, Umasugi Wave, ''Anime/TheBraveExpressMightGaine'' was going to debut in ''Z'' rather than its final debut which was in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsV''.
** Heine from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny'' appeared to be an intended playable character, given that his GOUF Ignited has fully animated battle sprites and that he has his own cut-in [[https://youtu.be/RdLpXu3t95c?t=215 which can be seen here]][[note]]The GOUF Ignited does make an appearance in battle albeit in a scripted one where it gets shot down[[/note]]. Heine's lack of playability is likely because of needing to hire CelebrityVoiceActor Music/TMRevolution to reprise the role as he is playable in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsK'' and ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsL L]]'' on the DS where there is no voiced lines.
** According to Terada in episode 527 of the ''Super Robot Wars'' radio show, Umasugi Wave, ''Anime/TheBraveExpressMightGaine'' was going to debut in ''Z'' rather than its final debut which was in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsV''.
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** "[[JustForPun DAMONic]] [[FanNickname Spiders]]", as the case may be: "[[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ2 Dimensional Beasts]]" have high {{Hit Point}}s, barriers, can inflict StatusEffects, good accuracy/evasion rates (and will only go higher due to their "[[CriticalStatusBuff Prevail]]" pilot skill[[note]]The lower the HP, the greater the increase to accuracy/evasion/critical/armor stats[[/note]]) and HP/EN regeneration. As one user on Website/SomethingAwful put it, "It's like someone decided [[Anime/MacrossPlus the Ghost X9]] should be more annoying".
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** "[[JustForPun DAMONic]] [[FanNickname "[[FanNickname DAMONic Spiders]]", as the case may be: "[[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ2 Dimensional Beasts]]" have high {{Hit Point}}s, barriers, can inflict StatusEffects, good accuracy/evasion rates (and will only go higher due to their "[[CriticalStatusBuff Prevail]]" pilot skill[[note]]The lower the HP, the greater the increase to accuracy/evasion/critical/armor stats[[/note]]) and HP/EN regeneration. As one user on Website/SomethingAwful put it, "It's like someone decided [[Anime/MacrossPlus the Ghost X9]] should be more annoying".
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* FirstInstallmentWins: The first game is widely seen as one of the best games in the entire ''Super Robot Wars'' franchise with very few noteworthy complaints. The sequels are typically seen as good, yet lesser games for a variety of reasons, not least of which is the growing pains from swapping platforms with each numbered entry.
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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: Due to it being split between two games as well as being released only on the PSP, Z2 is ''incredibly'' difficult to get ahold of due to both the fragility of the PSP after considerably use and the uniquely-formatted mini-discs being very finicky after too much use. Even finding music or gameplay of Z2 is a challenge, entirely because both games were on the PSP.
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** Mixed alongside AuthorsSavingThrow and TookALevelInBadass: when ''Anime/TheBigO'' debuted in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsDestiny'', it was [[TierInducedScrappy near useless]] by that game's [[GameBreakingBug broken standards]] and many players were pleasantly surprised after seeing it in action in ''Z'', where it's one of the best units and becomes better through weapon management, making it a nigh-GameBreaker with its high defense, range, and high stats from [[Anime/TheBigO Roger Smith]] (more accurately, his skill set, allowing him to make use of the "Attack Again" pilot skill[[note]]If the defending enemy's skill stat is 20 points lower than the pilot's skill stat, the pilot may initiate a second attack in the same combat phase[[/note]]). It seemed like the developers were issuing an apology for its sheer shafting in ''Destiny''.
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** Mixed alongside AuthorsSavingThrow and TookALevelInBadass: when ''Anime/TheBigO'' debuted in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsDestiny'', it was [[TierInducedScrappy near useless]] useless by that game's [[GameBreakingBug broken standards]] and many players were pleasantly surprised after seeing it in action in ''Z'', where it's one of the best units and becomes better through weapon management, making it a nigh-GameBreaker with its high defense, range, and high stats from [[Anime/TheBigO Roger Smith]] (more accurately, his skill set, allowing him to make use of the "Attack Again" pilot skill[[note]]If the defending enemy's skill stat is 20 points lower than the pilot's skill stat, the pilot may initiate a second attack in the same combat phase[[/note]]). It seemed like the developers were issuing an apology for its sheer shafting in ''Destiny''.
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** The cast and story of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' received such a huge FixFic treatment that people that once reviled them now looked at them with more positive light at least in the ''Super Robot Wars'' continuity.
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** The cast and story of ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny'' received such a huge FixFic treatment that people that once reviled them now looked at them with more positive light at least in the ''Super Robot Wars'' continuity. Ironically however, the director Mitsuo Fukuda ''[[DisownedAdaptation vehemently]]'' [[DisownedAdaptation disagrees]].
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* GoodBadBugs
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* GoodBadBugsGoodBadBugs:
** The first ''Z'' has an audio glitch where certain characters' voice lines play back at incorrect pitches. By far the most notable one occurs when performing a TRI attack with [[Anime/SuperDimensionCenturyOrguss Kei, Maaie, and Lieea]], as Lieea's voice is lowered and slowed down to the extent that it sounds demonic.
** The first ''Z'' has an audio glitch where certain characters' voice lines play back at incorrect pitches. By far the most notable one occurs when performing a TRI attack with [[Anime/SuperDimensionCenturyOrguss Kei, Maaie, and Lieea]], as Lieea's voice is lowered and slowed down to the extent that it sounds demonic.
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** [[http://i.imgur.com/TylcPSK.jpg This]] {{Yonkoma}} from ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment'' features the ''[[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic Tuataa De Danaan]]''. Again, this is no longer the case in ''Jigoku-hen'' [[spoiler:as it is converted into a '''flight-capable, space-faring battleship''']].
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** [[http://i.imgur.com/TylcPSK.jpg This]] {{Yonkoma}} from ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment'' features the ''[[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic ''[[Literature/FullMetalPanic Tuataa De Danaan]]''. Again, this is no longer the case in ''Jigoku-hen'' [[spoiler:as it is converted into a '''flight-capable, space-faring battleship''']].
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** Likewise, ''Tengoku-hen'' with "[[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic Bonta-kun]]": [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUOI6zz-Yr0 most bosses]] are essentially ineffective against it.
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** Likewise, ''Tengoku-hen'' with "[[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic "[[Literature/FullMetalPanic Bonta-kun]]": [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUOI6zz-Yr0 most bosses]] are essentially ineffective against it.
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** If the number of fanart is considered, [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ2 Marguerite Pistail]] and her GagBoobs come at a close second for the ''Z'' trilogy.
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** If the number of fanart is considered, [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ2 Marguerite Pistail]] and her GagBoobs large chest come at a close second for the ''Z'' trilogy.
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** [[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic Gauron]], [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment as]] [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsW usual]] in ''Jigoku-hen''; he may be worse this time if simply due, but not limited to, the fact he has the "Ignore Size Modifier" pilot skill.
** [[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic Leonard Testarossa in the Belial]] for ''Tengoku-hen'' in Scenario 16, due to his machine's "Lambda Driver" reducing damage by a whopping ''90%'', effectively giving him more than 150000 {{Hit Point}}s. If players are on the hard difficulty, Leonard will also unlock his "Ace Bonus".
** [[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic Leonard Testarossa in the Belial]] for ''Tengoku-hen'' in Scenario 16, due to his machine's "Lambda Driver" reducing damage by a whopping ''90%'', effectively giving him more than 150000 {{Hit Point}}s. If players are on the hard difficulty, Leonard will also unlock his "Ace Bonus".
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** [[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic [[Literature/FullMetalPanic Gauron]], [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment as]] [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsW usual]] in ''Jigoku-hen''; he may be worse this time if simply due, but not limited to, the fact he has the "Ignore Size Modifier" pilot skill.
**[[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic [[Literature/FullMetalPanic Leonard Testarossa in the Belial]] for ''Tengoku-hen'' in Scenario 16, due to his machine's "Lambda Driver" reducing damage by a whopping ''90%'', effectively giving him more than 150000 {{Hit Point}}s. If players are on the hard difficulty, Leonard will also unlock his "Ace Bonus".
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* SpiritualSuccessor: The ''Z'' trilogy is one of the ''Franchise/MassEffect'' trilogy, if it took center stage for ''Super Robot Wars'' - the [[spoiler:Supreme God Sol/Z]] is a parallel to the [[EldritchAbomination Reapers]], an InUniverse force with NighInvulnerability [[spoiler:that has been wiping out civilizations for millions of years. Both entities feature a cycle of destruction and rebirth on a cosmic scale]]. The ability of [[spoiler:Advent]] to brainwash characters by being in close proximity to them is similar to Reaper "[[MoreThanMindControl Indoctrination]]" and [[spoiler:the fact that he pretends to be an ally of Z-BLUE and plans to use the Supreme God for his own agenda]] is a slight nod to "The Illusive Man".
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* SpiritualSuccessor: SpiritualSuccessor:
** The first ''Z'' to ''Alpha Gaiden'', due to similar series used (''Gundam X'', ''Turn A Gundam'', ''Xabungle''), overall difficulty and the use of a "bazaar" to purchase playable units.
** The ''Z'' trilogy is one of the ''Franchise/MassEffect'' trilogy, if it took center stage for ''Super Robot Wars'' - the [[spoiler:Supreme God Sol/Z]] is a parallel to the [[EldritchAbomination Reapers]], an InUniverse force with NighInvulnerability [[spoiler:that has been wiping out civilizations for millions of years. Both entities feature a cycle of destruction and rebirth on a cosmic scale]]. The ability of [[spoiler:Advent]] to brainwash characters by being in close proximity to them is similar to Reaper "[[MoreThanMindControl Indoctrination]]" and [[spoiler:the fact that he pretends to be an ally of Z-BLUE and plans to use the Supreme God for his own agenda]] is a slight nod to "The Illusive Man".
** The first ''Z'' to ''Alpha Gaiden'', due to similar series used (''Gundam X'', ''Turn A Gundam'', ''Xabungle''), overall difficulty and the use of a "bazaar" to purchase playable units.
** The ''Z'' trilogy is one of the ''Franchise/MassEffect'' trilogy, if it took center stage for ''Super Robot Wars'' - the [[spoiler:Supreme God Sol/Z]] is a parallel to the [[EldritchAbomination Reapers]], an InUniverse force with NighInvulnerability [[spoiler:that has been wiping out civilizations for millions of years. Both entities feature a cycle of destruction and rebirth on a cosmic scale]]. The ability of [[spoiler:Advent]] to brainwash characters by being in close proximity to them is similar to Reaper "[[MoreThanMindControl Indoctrination]]" and [[spoiler:the fact that he pretends to be an ally of Z-BLUE and plans to use the Supreme God for his own agenda]] is a slight nod to "The Illusive Man".
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* SpiritualAdaptation: The ''Z'' trilogy is one of the ''Franchise/MassEffect'' trilogy, if it took center stage for ''Super Robot Wars'' - the [[spoiler:Supreme God Sol/Z]] is a parallel to the [[EldritchAbomination Reapers]], an InUniverse force with NighInvulnerability [[spoiler:that has been wiping out civilizations for millions of years. Both entities feature a cycle of destruction and rebirth on a cosmic scale]]. The ability of [[spoiler:Advent]] to brainwash characters by being in close proximity to them is similar to Reaper "[[MoreThanMindControl Indoctrination]]" and [[spoiler:the fact that he pretends to be an ally of Z-BLUE and plans to use the Supreme God for his own agenda]] is a slight nod to "The Illusive Man".
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* SpiritualAdaptation: SpiritualSuccessor: The ''Z'' trilogy is one of the ''Franchise/MassEffect'' trilogy, if it took center stage for ''Super Robot Wars'' - the [[spoiler:Supreme God Sol/Z]] is a parallel to the [[EldritchAbomination Reapers]], an InUniverse force with NighInvulnerability [[spoiler:that has been wiping out civilizations for millions of years. Both entities feature a cycle of destruction and rebirth on a cosmic scale]]. The ability of [[spoiler:Advent]] to brainwash characters by being in close proximity to them is similar to Reaper "[[MoreThanMindControl Indoctrination]]" and [[spoiler:the fact that he pretends to be an ally of Z-BLUE and plans to use the Supreme God for his own agenda]] is a slight nod to "The Illusive Man".
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* DifficultySpike:
** Until Scenario 15 of ''Saisei-hen'' the game's a cakewalk, especially if it's imported a save data from ''Hakai-hen''. However, this stage pits the player against [[spoiler:Marilyn and her Firebug Squad]]. Not only are they powerful, accurate, and mobile, Marilyn has a high level of the "Command" pilot skill[[note]]Pilot emits an aura boosting accuracy/evasion rates to allies; the higher the level, the greater the aura, and the closer to the pilot allies are, the greater the accuracy/evasion rates[[/note]], granting adjacent enemies immense accuracy/evasion boosts. Several other scenarios also qualify, particularly ones where [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Geraud Garce Bantail]] appears.
** The space route in the first route split of ''Jigoku-hen'' offers players ''Zeta Gundam'' units (who typically are some of the weakest units in franchise history) sans the Zeta, Heero and [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Duo Maxwell]] (using [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Leos]] instead of their Gundams), Hibiki, and Shinn. One scenario in this route pits the party against a bunch of real robots with conspicuously high HP and evasion rates escorting the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Kshatriya]] (who must be defeated in a set number of turns to receive the "SR Point") and [[ThatOneBoss Haman]] with her trademark [[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Quebeley]], alongside her having the "Leadership" pilot skill, making the fight against the {{Mooks}} even harder.
** Until Scenario 15 of ''Saisei-hen'' the game's a cakewalk, especially if it's imported a save data from ''Hakai-hen''. However, this stage pits the player against [[spoiler:Marilyn and her Firebug Squad]]. Not only are they powerful, accurate, and mobile, Marilyn has a high level of the "Command" pilot skill[[note]]Pilot emits an aura boosting accuracy/evasion rates to allies; the higher the level, the greater the aura, and the closer to the pilot allies are, the greater the accuracy/evasion rates[[/note]], granting adjacent enemies immense accuracy/evasion boosts. Several other scenarios also qualify, particularly ones where [[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ Geraud Garce Bantail]] appears.
** The space route in the first route split of ''Jigoku-hen'' offers players ''Zeta Gundam'' units (who typically are some of the weakest units in franchise history) sans the Zeta, Heero and [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Duo Maxwell]] (using [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Leos]] instead of their Gundams), Hibiki, and Shinn. One scenario in this route pits the party against a bunch of real robots with conspicuously high HP and evasion rates escorting the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Kshatriya]] (who must be defeated in a set number of turns to receive the "SR Point") and [[ThatOneBoss Haman]] with her trademark [[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Quebeley]], alongside her having the "Leadership" pilot skill, making the fight against the {{Mooks}} even harder.
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** Setsuna's "YOU ARE ALSO GUNDAM" line to Ple-Twelve in Z3 Tengoku-hen now becomes this, as in SD Gundam Battle Alliance, Marida does a CallBack ("I too, was once a Gundam").
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** "[[JustForPun DAMONic]] [[FanNickname Spiders]]", as the case may be: "[[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ2 Dimensional Beasts]]" have high {{Hit Point}}s, barriers, can inflict StatusEffects, good accuracy/evasion rates (and will only go higher due to their "[[CriticalStatusBuff Prevail]]" pilot skill[[note]]The lower the HP, the greater the increase to accuracy/evasion/critical/armor stats[[/note]]) and HP/EN regeneration. As one user on Website/SomethingAwful put it, "It's like someone decided [[Anime/MacrossPlus the Ghost X9]] should be [[UpToEleven more annoying]]".
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** "[[JustForPun DAMONic]] [[FanNickname Spiders]]", as the case may be: "[[Characters/SuperRobotWarsZ2 Dimensional Beasts]]" have high {{Hit Point}}s, barriers, can inflict StatusEffects, good accuracy/evasion rates (and will only go higher due to their "[[CriticalStatusBuff Prevail]]" pilot skill[[note]]The lower the HP, the greater the increase to accuracy/evasion/critical/armor stats[[/note]]) and HP/EN regeneration. As one user on Website/SomethingAwful put it, "It's like someone decided [[Anime/MacrossPlus the Ghost X9]] should be [[UpToEleven more annoying]]".annoying".
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*** The second one is a minor, but significant bug: in the ''Second Z'', it's possible to leave space on the sub-order menu before enacting sub-orders for party members who are not sortied out into combat, thus players are allowed to go back and fill those spaces and activate orders for them if they wish to. In ''Hakai-hen'', filled rows are locked out, but in ''Saisei-hen'', it's possible to visit an unfilled row, switch to a filled row (by pressing the L or R buttons while holding down the triangle button), then swap out one pilot for another who hasn't been given orders yet. This means the player is no longer forced to choose who gets sub-orders when the [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters cast becomes too large]].
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*** The second one is a minor, but significant bug: in the ''Second Z'', it's possible to leave space on the sub-order menu before enacting sub-orders for party members who are not sortied out into combat, thus players are allowed to go back and fill those spaces and activate orders for them if they wish to. In ''Hakai-hen'', filled rows are locked out, but in ''Saisei-hen'', it's possible to visit an unfilled row, switch to a filled row (by pressing the L or R buttons while holding down the triangle button), then swap out one pilot for another who hasn't been given orders yet. This means the player is no longer forced to choose who gets sub-orders when the [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters cast becomes too large]].large.
