Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* IAmNotShazam: Miguel is not actually named or even called "Spider-Man 2099", he is just referred to as Spider-Man who happens to be from the year 2099, long after Peter Parker has passed away.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Approved by the thread
.
.Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* CompleteMonster: [[LegacyCharacter Vulture 2099]] is one of the vilest of villains Spidey had to face in the 2099 era. After saving Spider-Man from members of the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Public Eye]], Vulture offers Spider-Man membership in his gang, the Freakers. However Spider-Man soon discovers that the Vulture is a [[ImAHumanitarian cannibal]]. Vulture killed the Public Eye officers chasing Spider-Man and cooked them up for dinner. Disgusted, Spider-Man refuses to join the Vulture's gang and Vulture attacks him. While Spider-Man is fighting Vulture, Spider-Man discovers Vulture's [[CannibalLarder meat locker]], containing several corpses on meat hooks that Vulture intended to eat later. After his initial defeat Vulture later returned and convinced a group of Thorites, a group that worships Thor to have a Spiderite, a group that worships Spider-Man burned alive. In his last appearance, Vulture discovers that Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara and attempts to murder one of his friends. After Spider-Man foils Vulture, he sets off several bombs at the [[MegaCorp Alchemax]] building--Miguel is a high-level employee at Alchemax--intending to destroy it and not caring how many civilians are in the building.
to:
* CompleteMonster: [[LegacyCharacter CompleteMonster:
**[[LegacyCharacter Vulture 2099]] is one of the vilest of villains Spidey had to face in the 2099 era. After saving Spider-Man from members of the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Public Eye]], Vulture offers Spider-Man membership in his gang, the Freakers. However Spider-Man soon discovers that the Vulture is a [[ImAHumanitarian cannibal]]. Vulture killed the Public Eye officers chasing Spider-Man and cooked them up for dinner. Disgusted, Spider-Man refuses to join the Vulture's gang and Vulture attacks him. While Spider-Man is fighting Vulture, Spider-Man discovers Vulture's [[CannibalLarder meat locker]], containing several corpses on meat hooks that Vulture intended to eat later. After his initial defeat Vulture later returned and convinced a group of Thorites, a group that worships Thor to have a Spiderite, a group that worships Spider-Man burned alive. In his last appearance, Vulture discovers that Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara and attempts to murder one of his friends. After Spider-Man foils Vulture, he sets off several bombs at the [[MegaCorp Alchemax]] building--Miguel is a high-level employee at Alchemax--intending to destroy it and not caring how many civilians are in thebuilding.building.
** [[AxCrazy Kron Stone]] is the 2099 incarnation of Venom, the son of the equally-sociopathic Alchemax executive Tyler Stone, and a monster who plays a role in the origins of both the [[ComicBook/ThePunisher2099 2099 Punisher]] and the [[ComicBook/SpiderMan2099 2099 Spider-Man]]. Twisted since he was a kid, Kron was guilty of attempted murder in his youth, and graduated to slaughtering entire families at a time, even the kids, punishing random innocents to vent frustration about his own unhappy childhood. When put down by the Punisher, Jake Gallows--whose entire family Kron considered cheaper than one of his suits--Kron barely survived and bonded to the Venom symbiote, killing a random bum to disguise the corpse as his own. Taking the mantle of Venom, Kron attacked a hospital and attempted to kill his comatose father, killing dozens of innocents in the process, and takes the life of Miguel O'Hara's ex-lover Dana after forcing Miguel into a SadisticChoice involving Dana's life and his other girlfriend, Xina. Both Jake and Miguel [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse reject Kron's attempt to foist all the blame for his evil on his troubled childhood]], and beneath his excuses Kron is a savage who kills because he loves it.
**[[LegacyCharacter Vulture 2099]] is one of the vilest of villains Spidey had to face in the 2099 era. After saving Spider-Man from members of the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Public Eye]], Vulture offers Spider-Man membership in his gang, the Freakers. However Spider-Man soon discovers that the Vulture is a [[ImAHumanitarian cannibal]]. Vulture killed the Public Eye officers chasing Spider-Man and cooked them up for dinner. Disgusted, Spider-Man refuses to join the Vulture's gang and Vulture attacks him. While Spider-Man is fighting Vulture, Spider-Man discovers Vulture's [[CannibalLarder meat locker]], containing several corpses on meat hooks that Vulture intended to eat later. After his initial defeat Vulture later returned and convinced a group of Thorites, a group that worships Thor to have a Spiderite, a group that worships Spider-Man burned alive. In his last appearance, Vulture discovers that Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara and attempts to murder one of his friends. After Spider-Man foils Vulture, he sets off several bombs at the [[MegaCorp Alchemax]] building--Miguel is a high-level employee at Alchemax--intending to destroy it and not caring how many civilians are in the
** [[AxCrazy Kron Stone]] is the 2099 incarnation of Venom, the son of the equally-sociopathic Alchemax executive Tyler Stone, and a monster who plays a role in the origins of both the [[ComicBook/ThePunisher2099 2099 Punisher]] and the [[ComicBook/SpiderMan2099 2099 Spider-Man]]. Twisted since he was a kid, Kron was guilty of attempted murder in his youth, and graduated to slaughtering entire families at a time, even the kids, punishing random innocents to vent frustration about his own unhappy childhood. When put down by the Punisher, Jake Gallows--whose entire family Kron considered cheaper than one of his suits--Kron barely survived and bonded to the Venom symbiote, killing a random bum to disguise the corpse as his own. Taking the mantle of Venom, Kron attacked a hospital and attempted to kill his comatose father, killing dozens of innocents in the process, and takes the life of Miguel O'Hara's ex-lover Dana after forcing Miguel into a SadisticChoice involving Dana's life and his other girlfriend, Xina. Both Jake and Miguel [[FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse reject Kron's attempt to foist all the blame for his evil on his troubled childhood]], and beneath his excuses Kron is a savage who kills because he loves it.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 2 (click to see context) :
* HilariousInHindsight: With a hint of {{irony}}. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer Creator/PeterDavid, working on the advice of fellow writers and editors[[note]]Stern had quit before revealing the identity of the Goblin, he told his solution to his successor Tom [=DeFalco=] who revealed that he didn't like it, and so spun wheels on other candidates and encouraged other writers to do so[[/note]] "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Creator/RogerStern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't. [[spoiler:And much like Stern with Roderick Kingsley, Peter David did ultimately reveal that Jennifer was indeed the Goblin.]]
Added DiffLines:
* HilariousInHindsight: With a hint of {{irony}}. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer Creator/PeterDavid, working on the advice of fellow writers and editors[[note]]Stern had quit before revealing the identity of the Goblin, he told his solution to his successor Tom [=DeFalco=] who revealed that he didn't like it, and so spun wheels on other candidates and encouraged other writers to do so[[/note]] "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Creator/RogerStern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't. [[spoiler:And much like Stern with Roderick Kingsley, Peter David did ultimately reveal that Jennifer was indeed the Goblin.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* HilariousInHindsight - With a hint of {{irony}}. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer Creator/PeterDavid, working on the advice of fellow writers and editors[[note]]Stern had quit before revealing the identity of the Goblin, he told his solution to his successor Tom [=DeFalco=] who revealed that he didn't like it, and so spun wheels on other candidates and encouraged other writers to do so[[/note]] "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Creator/RogerStern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't. [[spoiler:And much like Stern with Roderick Kingsley, Peter David did ultimately reveal that Jennifer was indeed the Goblin.]]
to:
* HilariousInHindsight - HilariousInHindsight: With a hint of {{irony}}. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer Creator/PeterDavid, working on the advice of fellow writers and editors[[note]]Stern had quit before revealing the identity of the Goblin, he told his solution to his successor Tom [=DeFalco=] who revealed that he didn't like it, and so spun wheels on other candidates and encouraged other writers to do so[[/note]] "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Creator/RogerStern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't. [[spoiler:And much like Stern with Roderick Kingsley, Peter David did ultimately reveal that Jennifer was indeed the Goblin.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3 (click to see context) from:
* FanonDiscontinuity: The Marvel Comics Database wiki does not consider the Miguel O'Hara introduced in 2013 to be the same character as the Miguel O'Hara of Volume 1, labelling the 2099 seen in ''Superior Spider-Man'' and ''Spider-Verse'' "Earth-[=TRN588=]" to distinguish between it and Earth-928. The reason for this is discrepancies arising from Peter David [[{{Retcon}} disregarding everything]] that happened in Volume 1 after he'd left, though Marvel maintains that all the versions of 2099 are Earth-928 except for the one introduced in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'', which was labelled Earth-23291.
to:
* FanonDiscontinuity: FanonDiscontinuity:
** The Marvel Comics Database wikidoes originally did not consider the Miguel O'Hara introduced in 2013 to be the same character as the Miguel O'Hara of Volume 1, labelling the 2099 seen in ''Superior Spider-Man'' and ''Spider-Verse'' "Earth-[=TRN588=]" to distinguish between it and Earth-928. The reason for this is discrepancies arising from Peter David [[{{Retcon}} disregarding everything]] that happened in Volume 1 after he'd left, though Marvel maintains that all the versions of 2099 are Earth-928 except for the one introduced in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'', which was labelled Earth-23291. In 2019 this was amended following the revelation that the post-Peter David issues of ''Spider-Man 2099'' Vol. 1 were set in an alternate timeline called "Earth-96943", and the "Earth-[=TRN588=]" page was merged with Earth-928.
** Owing to Marvel's former stance regarding "possible future" timelines, established in the wake of ''Days of Future Past'' and ''Age of Apocalypse'' -- that they are actually alternate universes and that people traveling back in time are actually dimension-hopping to Earth-616 instead of their own universe's past -- the Marvel Comics Database wiki rejects that Earth-928 -- and by extension other possible future timelines such as the one seen in Jason Aaron's ''Thor'' run -- are part of the same continuity as Earth-616.
** The Marvel Comics Database wiki
** Owing to Marvel's former stance regarding "possible future" timelines, established in the wake of ''Days of Future Past'' and ''Age of Apocalypse'' -- that they are actually alternate universes and that people traveling back in time are actually dimension-hopping to Earth-616 instead of their own universe's past -- the Marvel Comics Database wiki rejects that Earth-928 -- and by extension other possible future timelines such as the one seen in Jason Aaron's ''Thor'' run -- are part of the same continuity as Earth-616.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
The main character can't count
Deleted line(s) 2 (click to see context) :
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Miguel was this in the 2099 run, to the point where he was brought back for ''[[VideoGame/SpiderManShatteredDimensions Shattered Dimensions]]'', ''[[VideoGame/SpiderManEdgeOfTime Edge of Time]]'' and eventually got a new solo comic in 2014.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Cut trope
Deleted line(s) 2 (click to see context) :
* CounterpartComparison: Miguel's upgraded suit, with jet thrusters, glider-capability, HUD, explosive "spider-rangs" along with working with the first Spider-Man who's pretty much extended the identity into a complete Spider-Family, is reminiscent of [[{{WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond}} Batman Beyond]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* CounterpartComparison: Miguel's upgraded suit, with jet thrusters, glider-capability, HUD, explosive "spider-rangs" along with working with the first Spider-Man whose pretty much extended the identity into a complete Spider-Family, is reminiscent of [[{{WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond}} Batman Beyond]].
to:
* CounterpartComparison: Miguel's upgraded suit, with jet thrusters, glider-capability, HUD, explosive "spider-rangs" along with working with the first Spider-Man whose who's pretty much extended the identity into a complete Spider-Family, is reminiscent of [[{{WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond}} Batman Beyond]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* HilariousInHindsight - With a hint of {{irony}}. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer Creator/PeterDavid, working on the advice of fellow writers and editors[[note]]Stern had quit before revealing the identity of the Goblin, he told his solution to his successor Tom [=DeFalco=] who revealed that he didn't like it, and so spun wheels on other candidates and encouraged other writers to do so[[/note]] "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Roger Stern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't. [[spoiler:And much like Stern with Roderick Kingsley, Peter David did ultimately reveal that Jennifer was indeed the Goblin.]]
to:
* HilariousInHindsight - With a hint of {{irony}}. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer Creator/PeterDavid, working on the advice of fellow writers and editors[[note]]Stern had quit before revealing the identity of the Goblin, he told his solution to his successor Tom [=DeFalco=] who revealed that he didn't like it, and so spun wheels on other candidates and encouraged other writers to do so[[/note]] "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Roger Stern, Creator/RogerStern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't. [[spoiler:And much like Stern with Roderick Kingsley, Peter David did ultimately reveal that Jennifer was indeed the Goblin.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* HilariousInHindsight - With a hint of {{irony}}. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer Creator/PeterDavid "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Roger Stern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't. [[spoiler:And much like Stern with Roderick Kingsley, Peter David did ultimately reveal that Jennifer was indeed the Goblin.]]
to:
* HilariousInHindsight - With a hint of {{irony}}. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer Creator/PeterDavid Creator/PeterDavid, working on the advice of fellow writers and editors[[note]]Stern had quit before revealing the identity of the Goblin, he told his solution to his successor Tom [=DeFalco=] who revealed that he didn't like it, and so spun wheels on other candidates and encouraged other writers to do so[[/note]] "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Roger Stern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't. [[spoiler:And much like Stern with Roderick Kingsley, Peter David did ultimately reveal that Jennifer was indeed the Goblin.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* CompleteMonster: [[LegacyCharacter Vulture 2099]] is one of the vilest of villains Spidey had to face in the DarkerAndEdgier [[CyberPunk 2099 era]]. After [[VillainousRescue saving]] Spider-Man from members of the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Public Eye]], Vulture offers Spider-Man membership in his gang, the Freakers. However Spider-Man soon discovers that the Vulture is a [[ImAHumanitarian cannibal]]. Vulture killed the Public Eye officers chasing Spider-Man and cooked them up for dinner. Disgusted, Spider-Man refuses to join the Vulture's gang and Vulture attacks him. While Spider-Man is fighting Vulture, Spider-Man discovers Vulture's [[CannibalLarder meat locker]], containing several corpses on meat hooks that Vulture intended to eat later. After his initial defeat Vulture later returned and convinced a group of Thorites, a group that worships Thor to have a Spiderite, a group that worships Spider-Man [[ManOnFire burned alive]]. In his last appearance, Vulture discovers that Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara and attempts to murder one of his friends. After Spider-Man foils Vulture, he sets off several bombs at the [[MegaCorp Alchemax]] building--Miguel is a high-level employee at Alchemax--intending to destroy it and not caring how many civilians are in the building.
to:
* CompleteMonster: [[LegacyCharacter Vulture 2099]] is one of the vilest of villains Spidey had to face in the DarkerAndEdgier [[CyberPunk 2099 era]]. era. After [[VillainousRescue saving]] saving Spider-Man from members of the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Public Eye]], Vulture offers Spider-Man membership in his gang, the Freakers. However Spider-Man soon discovers that the Vulture is a [[ImAHumanitarian cannibal]]. Vulture killed the Public Eye officers chasing Spider-Man and cooked them up for dinner. Disgusted, Spider-Man refuses to join the Vulture's gang and Vulture attacks him. While Spider-Man is fighting Vulture, Spider-Man discovers Vulture's [[CannibalLarder meat locker]], containing several corpses on meat hooks that Vulture intended to eat later. After his initial defeat Vulture later returned and convinced a group of Thorites, a group that worships Thor to have a Spiderite, a group that worships Spider-Man [[ManOnFire burned alive]].alive. In his last appearance, Vulture discovers that Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara and attempts to murder one of his friends. After Spider-Man foils Vulture, he sets off several bombs at the [[MegaCorp Alchemax]] building--Miguel is a high-level employee at Alchemax--intending to destroy it and not caring how many civilians are in the building.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Not YMMV.
Deleted line(s) 1 (click to see context) :
* CanonDiscontinuity: Following Spider-Man 2099 returning after the ''ComicBook/AgeOfUltron'', Peter David {{retconned}} everything that happened after he left the team behind Volume 1 when writing Volume 2 and Volume 3.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* CanonDiscontinuity: Following Spider-Man 2099 returning after the ''ComicBook/AgeOfUltron'', Peter David {{retconned}} everything that happened after he left the team behind Volume 1 when writing Volume 2 and Volume 3.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* FanonDiscontinuity: The Marvel Comics Database wiki does not consider the Miguel O'Hara introduced in 2013 to be the same character as the Miguel O'Hara of Volume 1, labelling the 2099 seen in ''Superior Spider-Man'' and ''Spider-Verse'' "Earth-[=TRN588=]" to distinguish between it and Earth-928. The reason for this is discrepancies arising from Peter David [[{{Retcon}} disregarding everything]] that happened in Volume 1 after he'd left, though Marvel maintains that all the versions of 2099 are Earth-928 except for the one introduced in ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'', which was labelled Earth-23291.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* HilariousInHindsight - With a hint of {{irony}}. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer Creator/PeterDavid "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Roger Stern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't.
to:
* HilariousInHindsight - With a hint of {{irony}}. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer Creator/PeterDavid "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Roger Stern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't. [[spoiler:And much like Stern with Roderick Kingsley, Peter David did ultimately reveal that Jennifer was indeed the Goblin.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 4 (click to see context) from:
* HilariousInHindsight - With a hint of {{irony}}. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer PeterDavid "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Roger Stern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't.
to:
* HilariousInHindsight - With a hint of {{irony}}. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer PeterDavid Creator/PeterDavid "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Roger Stern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't.doesn't.
----
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* CounterpartComparison: Miguel's upgraded suit, with jet thrusters, glider-capability, HUD, explosive "spider-rangs" along with working with the first Spider-Man whose pretty much extended the identity into a complete Spider-Family, is reminiscent of [[{{WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond}} Batman Beyond]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* CompleteMonster: [[LegacyCharacter Vulture 2099]] is one of the vilest of villains Spidey had to face in the DarkerAndEdgier [[CyberPunk 2099 era]]. After [[VillainousRescue saving]] Spider-Man from members of the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Public Eye]], Vulture offers Spider-Man membership in his gang, the Freakers. However Spider-Man soon discovers that the Vulture is a [[ImAHumanitarian cannibal]]. Vulture killed the Public Eye officers chasing Spider-Man and cooked them up for dinner. Disgusted, Spider-Man refuses to join the Vulture's gang and Vulture attacks him. While Spider-Man is fighting Vulture, Spider-Man discovers Vulture's [[CannibalLarder meat locker]], containing several corpses on meat hooks that Vulture intended to eat later. After his initial defeat Vulture later returned and convinced a group of Thorites (a group that worships Thor) to have a Spiderite (a group that worships Spider-Man) [[ManOnFire burned alive]]. In his last appearance, Vulture discovers that Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara and attempts to murder one of his friends. After Spider-Man foils him, Vulture sets off several bombs at the [[MegaCorp Alchemax]] building (where Miguel is a high-level employee), not caring how many civilians are in the building.
to:
* CompleteMonster: [[LegacyCharacter Vulture 2099]] is one of the vilest of villains Spidey had to face in the DarkerAndEdgier [[CyberPunk 2099 era]]. After [[VillainousRescue saving]] Spider-Man from members of the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Public Eye]], Vulture offers Spider-Man membership in his gang, the Freakers. However Spider-Man soon discovers that the Vulture is a [[ImAHumanitarian cannibal]]. Vulture killed the Public Eye officers chasing Spider-Man and cooked them up for dinner. Disgusted, Spider-Man refuses to join the Vulture's gang and Vulture attacks him. While Spider-Man is fighting Vulture, Spider-Man discovers Vulture's [[CannibalLarder meat locker]], containing several corpses on meat hooks that Vulture intended to eat later. After his initial defeat Vulture later returned and convinced a group of Thorites (a Thorites, a group that worships Thor) Thor to have a Spiderite (a Spiderite, a group that worships Spider-Man) Spider-Man [[ManOnFire burned alive]]. In his last appearance, Vulture discovers that Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara and attempts to murder one of his friends. After Spider-Man foils him, Vulture Vulture, he sets off several bombs at the [[MegaCorp Alchemax]] building (where Miguel building--Miguel is a high-level employee), employee at Alchemax--intending to destroy it and not caring how many civilians are in the building.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* CompleteMonster: [[LegacyCharacter Vulture 2099]] is one of the vilest of villains Spidey had to face in the DarkerAndEdgier [[CyberPunk 2099 era]]. After [[VillainousRescue saving]] Spider-Man from members of the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Public Eye]], Vulture offers Spider-Man membership in his gang, the Freakers. However Spider-Man soon discovers that the Vulture is a [[ImAHumanitarian cannibal]]. Vulture killed the Public Eye officers chasing Spider-Man and cooked them up for dinner. Disgusted, Spider-Man refuses to join the Vulture's gang and Vulture attacks him. While Spider-Man is fighting Vulture, Spider-Man discovers Vulture's [[CannibalLarder meat locker]], containing several corpses on meat hooks that Vulture intended to eat later. After his initial defeat Vulture later returned and convinced a group of Thorites (a group that worships Thor) to have a Spiderite (a group that worships Spider-Man) [[ManOnFire burned alive]]. In his last appearance, Vulture discovers that Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara and attempts to murder one of his friends. After Spider-Man foils Vulture, he sets off several bombs at the [[MegaCorp Alchemax]] building (Miguel is a high-level employee at Alchemax), intending to destroy it and not caring how many civilians are in the building.
to:
* CompleteMonster: [[LegacyCharacter Vulture 2099]] is one of the vilest of villains Spidey had to face in the DarkerAndEdgier [[CyberPunk 2099 era]]. After [[VillainousRescue saving]] Spider-Man from members of the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Public Eye]], Vulture offers Spider-Man membership in his gang, the Freakers. However Spider-Man soon discovers that the Vulture is a [[ImAHumanitarian cannibal]]. Vulture killed the Public Eye officers chasing Spider-Man and cooked them up for dinner. Disgusted, Spider-Man refuses to join the Vulture's gang and Vulture attacks him. While Spider-Man is fighting Vulture, Spider-Man discovers Vulture's [[CannibalLarder meat locker]], containing several corpses on meat hooks that Vulture intended to eat later. After his initial defeat Vulture later returned and convinced a group of Thorites (a group that worships Thor) to have a Spiderite (a group that worships Spider-Man) [[ManOnFire burned alive]]. In his last appearance, Vulture discovers that Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara and attempts to murder one of his friends. After Spider-Man foils Vulture, he him, Vulture sets off several bombs at the [[MegaCorp Alchemax]] building (Miguel (where Miguel is a high-level employee at Alchemax), intending to destroy it and employee), not caring how many civilians are in the building.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Miguel was this in the 2099 run, to the point where he was brought back for ''[[VideoGame/SpiderManShatteredDimensions Shattered Dimensions]]'', ''[[VideoGame/SpiderManEdgeOfTime Edge of Time]]'' and is now going to head a solo comic featuring him in the present day.
to:
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Miguel was this in the 2099 run, to the point where he was brought back for ''[[VideoGame/SpiderManShatteredDimensions Shattered Dimensions]]'', ''[[VideoGame/SpiderManEdgeOfTime Edge of Time]]'' and is now going to head eventually got a new solo comic featuring him in the present day.2014.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 2 (click to see context) :
** Kron Stone[=/=]Venom 2099, who like the present day Spidey villain Carnage, was a sadistic serial[=/=]spree killer even before acquiring superpowers. He also possessed unlimited wealth, which meant that he could commit any heinous crime he wanted to (publically, even) and get away with it; seemingly the only reason he even bothered to appear at his innumerable trials was to mock his surviving victims, and their loved ones ("Human life—cheap, isn't it? I paid more for this suit"). Backup stories set in the past also reveal that he was always rotten, attempting (and possibly succeeding at) acts like rape and murder as far back as middle school. He at one point tries to justify his actions to [[ComicBook/{{The Punisher 2099}} the new Punisher]] (who caught him in the midst of massacring an amusement park full of children) by spinning an over-the-top origin story about negligent parents who left him to be raised by a robot nanny that thought he was a dog. Jake is unimpressed, calling him just another "crazy with a sob story".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
** Kron Stone[=/=]Venom 2099, who like the present day Spidey villain Carnage, was a sadistic serial[=/=]spree killer even before acquiring superpowers. He also possessed unlimited wealth, which meant he could commit any heinous crime he wanted (publically, even) and get away with it; seemingly the only reason he even bothered to appear at his innumerable trials was to mock his surviving victims, and their loved ones ("Human life—cheap, isn't it? I paid more for this suit"). Backup stories set in the past also reveal he was always rotten, attempting (and possibly succeeding at) acts like rape and murder as far back as middle school. He at one point tries to justify his actions to [[ComicBook/{{Punisher 2099}} the new Punisher]] (who caught him in the midst of massacring an amusement park full of children) by spinning an over-the-top origin story about negligent parents who left him to be raised by a robot nanny that thought he was a dog. Jake is unimpressed, calling him just another "crazy with a sob story".
to:
** Kron Stone[=/=]Venom 2099, who like the present day Spidey villain Carnage, was a sadistic serial[=/=]spree killer even before acquiring superpowers. He also possessed unlimited wealth, which meant that he could commit any heinous crime he wanted to (publically, even) and get away with it; seemingly the only reason he even bothered to appear at his innumerable trials was to mock his surviving victims, and their loved ones ("Human life—cheap, isn't it? I paid more for this suit"). Backup stories set in the past also reveal that he was always rotten, attempting (and possibly succeeding at) acts like rape and murder as far back as middle school. He at one point tries to justify his actions to [[ComicBook/{{Punisher [[ComicBook/{{The Punisher 2099}} the new Punisher]] (who caught him in the midst of massacring an amusement park full of children) by spinning an over-the-top origin story about negligent parents who left him to be raised by a robot nanny that thought he was a dog. Jake is unimpressed, calling him just another "crazy with a sob story".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Kron Stone[=/=]Venom 2099, who like the present day Spidey villain Carnage, was a sadistic serial[=/=]spree killer even before acquiring superpowers. He also possessed unlimited wealth, which meant he could commit any heinous crime he wanted (publically, even) and get away with it; seemingly the only reason he even bothered to appear at his innumerable trials was to mock his surviving victims, and their loved ones ("Human life—cheap, isn't it? I paid more for this suit"). Backup stories set in the past also reveal he was always rotten, attempting (and possibly succeeding at) acts like rape and murder as far back as middle school. He at one point tries to justify his actions to [[ComicBook/{{Punisher 2099}} the new Punisher]] (who caught him in the midst of massacring an amusement park full of children) by spinning an over-the-top origin story about negligent parents who left him to be raised by a robot nanny that thought he was a dog. Jake is unimpressed, calling him just another "crazy with a sob story".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3 (click to see context) from:
** HilariousInHindsight - With a hint of {{irony}}. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer PeterDavid "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Roger Stern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't.
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 3 (click to see context) from:
HilariousInHindsight - With a hint of [[{{Irony}} irony]]. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer PeterDavid "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Roger Stern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't.
to:
** HilariousInHindsight - With a hint of [[{{Irony}} irony]].{{irony}}. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer PeterDavid "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Roger Stern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Miguel was this in the 2099 run, to the point where he was brought back for ''Shattered Dimensions'', ''Edge of Time'' and is now going to head a solo comic featuring him in the present day.
to:
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Miguel was this in the 2099 run, to the point where he was brought back for ''Shattered Dimensions'', ''Edge ''[[VideoGame/SpiderManShatteredDimensions Shattered Dimensions]]'', ''[[VideoGame/SpiderManEdgeOfTime Edge of Time'' Time]]'' and is now going to head a solo comic featuring him in the present day.day.
HilariousInHindsight - With a hint of [[{{Irony}} irony]]. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer PeterDavid "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Roger Stern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't.
HilariousInHindsight - With a hint of [[{{Irony}} irony]]. During his early Spider-Man works, ''Spider-Man 2099'' writer PeterDavid "revealed" that Ned Leeds was the original Hobgoblin--which several fans thought was questionable given how Leeds died and the original Hobgoblin mystery writer, Roger Stern, came back and revealed that it wasn't the case. [[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.peter-david/msg/4e9186e3c4855006?hl=en& David had intended Father Jennifer to be the (Green) Goblin 2099]], but it was revealed that [[spoiler: Gabriel O'Hara was Goblin 2099 (though this was later retconned to be an imposter)]]. Someone had to appreciate the irony, even if (as the link shows) David himself doesn't.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* CompleteMonster: [[LegacyCharacter Vulture 2099]] is one of the vilest of villains Spidey had to face in the DarkerAndEdgier [[CyberPunk 2099 era]]. After [[VillainousRescue saving]] Spider-Man from members of the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Public Eye]], Vulture offers Spider-Man membership in his gang, the Freakers. However Spider-Man soon discovers that the Vulture is a [[ImAHumanitarian cannibal]]. Vulture killed the Public Eye officers chasing Spider-Man and cooked them up for dinner. Disgusted, Spider-Man refuses to join the Vulture's gang and Vulture attacks him. While Spider-Man is fighting Vulture, Spider-Man discovers Vulture's [[CannibalLarder meat locker]], containing several corpses on meat hooks that Vulture intended to eat later. After his initial defeat Vulture later returned and convinced a group of Thorites (a group that worships Thor) to have a Spiderite (a group that worships Spider-Man) [[ManOnFire burned alive]]. In his last appearance, Vulture discovers that Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara and attempts to murder one of his friends. After Spider-Man foils Vulture, he sets off several bombs at the [[MegaCorp Alchemax]] building (Miguel is a high-level employee at Alchemax), intending to destroy it and not caring how many civilians are in the building.
to:
* CompleteMonster: [[LegacyCharacter Vulture 2099]] is one of the vilest of villains Spidey had to face in the DarkerAndEdgier [[CyberPunk 2099 era]]. After [[VillainousRescue saving]] Spider-Man from members of the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Public Eye]], Vulture offers Spider-Man membership in his gang, the Freakers. However Spider-Man soon discovers that the Vulture is a [[ImAHumanitarian cannibal]]. Vulture killed the Public Eye officers chasing Spider-Man and cooked them up for dinner. Disgusted, Spider-Man refuses to join the Vulture's gang and Vulture attacks him. While Spider-Man is fighting Vulture, Spider-Man discovers Vulture's [[CannibalLarder meat locker]], containing several corpses on meat hooks that Vulture intended to eat later. After his initial defeat Vulture later returned and convinced a group of Thorites (a group that worships Thor) to have a Spiderite (a group that worships Spider-Man) [[ManOnFire burned alive]]. In his last appearance, Vulture discovers that Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara and attempts to murder one of his friends. After Spider-Man foils Vulture, he sets off several bombs at the [[MegaCorp Alchemax]] building (Miguel is a high-level employee at Alchemax), intending to destroy it and not caring how many civilians are in the building.building.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Miguel was this in the 2099 run, to the point where he was brought back for ''Shattered Dimensions'', ''Edge of Time'' and is now going to head a solo comic featuring him in the present day.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Miguel was this in the 2099 run, to the point where he was brought back for ''Shattered Dimensions'', ''Edge of Time'' and is now going to head a solo comic featuring him in the present day.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* CompleteMonster: [[LegacyCharacter Vulture 2099]] is one of the vilest of villains Spidey had to face in the DarkerAndEdgier [[CyberPunk 2099 era]]. After [[VillainousRescue saving]] Spider-Man from members of the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Public Eye]], Vulture offers Spider-Man membership in his gang, the Freakers. However Spider-Man soon discovers that the Vulture is a [[IAmAHumanitarian cannibal]]. Vulture killed the Public Eye officers chasing Spider-Man and cooked them up for dinner. Disgusted, Spider-Man refuses to join the Vulture's gang and Vulture attacks him. While Spider-Man is fighting Vulture, Spider-Man discovers Vulture's [[CannibalLarder meat locker]], containing several corpses on meat hooks that Vulture intended to eat later. After his initial defeat Vulture later returned and convinced a group of Thorites (a group that worships Thor) to have a Spiderite (a group that worships Spider-Man) [[ManOnFire burned alive]]. In his last appearance, Vulture discovers that Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara and attempts to murder one of his friends. After Spider-Man foils Vulture, he sets off several bombs at the [[MegaCorp Alchemax]] building (Miguel is a high-level employee at Alchemax), intending to destroy it and not caring how many civilians are in the building.
to:
* CompleteMonster: [[LegacyCharacter Vulture 2099]] is one of the vilest of villains Spidey had to face in the DarkerAndEdgier [[CyberPunk 2099 era]]. After [[VillainousRescue saving]] Spider-Man from members of the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Public Eye]], Vulture offers Spider-Man membership in his gang, the Freakers. However Spider-Man soon discovers that the Vulture is a [[IAmAHumanitarian [[ImAHumanitarian cannibal]]. Vulture killed the Public Eye officers chasing Spider-Man and cooked them up for dinner. Disgusted, Spider-Man refuses to join the Vulture's gang and Vulture attacks him. While Spider-Man is fighting Vulture, Spider-Man discovers Vulture's [[CannibalLarder meat locker]], containing several corpses on meat hooks that Vulture intended to eat later. After his initial defeat Vulture later returned and convinced a group of Thorites (a group that worships Thor) to have a Spiderite (a group that worships Spider-Man) [[ManOnFire burned alive]]. In his last appearance, Vulture discovers that Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara and attempts to murder one of his friends. After Spider-Man foils Vulture, he sets off several bombs at the [[MegaCorp Alchemax]] building (Miguel is a high-level employee at Alchemax), intending to destroy it and not caring how many civilians are in the building.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
*CompleteMonster: [[LegacyCharacter Vulture 2099]] is one of the vilest of villains Spidey had to face in the DarkerAndEdgier [[CyberPunk 2099 era]]. After [[VillainousRescue saving]] Spider-Man from members of the [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Public Eye]], Vulture offers Spider-Man membership in his gang, the Freakers. However Spider-Man soon discovers that the Vulture is a [[IAmAHumanitarian cannibal]]. Vulture killed the Public Eye officers chasing Spider-Man and cooked them up for dinner. Disgusted, Spider-Man refuses to join the Vulture's gang and Vulture attacks him. While Spider-Man is fighting Vulture, Spider-Man discovers Vulture's [[CannibalLarder meat locker]], containing several corpses on meat hooks that Vulture intended to eat later. After his initial defeat Vulture later returned and convinced a group of Thorites (a group that worships Thor) to have a Spiderite (a group that worships Spider-Man) [[ManOnFire burned alive]]. In his last appearance, Vulture discovers that Spider-Man is Miguel O'Hara and attempts to murder one of his friends. After Spider-Man foils Vulture, he sets off several bombs at the [[MegaCorp Alchemax]] building (Miguel is a high-level employee at Alchemax), intending to destroy it and not caring how many civilians are in the building.
