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** [[spoiler: Kaien]] attacks Ichigo on ''Aizens advice''. He knows that Aizen is the BigBad, and he still listens to him.

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** [[spoiler: Kaien]] attacks Ichigo on ''Aizens ''Aizen's advice''. He knows that Aizen is the BigBad, and he still listens to him.



** Did Needles really think he was going to get away with [[spoiler: [[AttemptedRape attempting to rape]] Orihime or convince Ichigo to join in on the action? And then trying to spinelessly back out of it]]? The man is lucky Ichigo left him breathing.
** Talbumosuke sending [[spoiler: Gantebainne into town to test Segunda Etapa, and getting curb-stomped by Yoruichi; all it did was tip off Lelouch as to one of his best trump cards. Surely a supervised intra Espada battle]] would have been more productive; while it's explained in story that Tally didn't want to [[spoiler: risk damaging his Espada in such an exercise, Ganty's abject performance]] sort of belies his argument.

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** Did Needles really think he was going to get away with [[spoiler: [[AttemptedRape [[spoiler:[[AttemptedRape attempting to rape]] Orihime or convince Ichigo to join in on the action? And then trying to spinelessly back out of it]]? The man is lucky Ichigo left him breathing.
** Talbumosuke sending [[spoiler: Gantebainne [[spoiler:Gantebainne into town to test Segunda Etapa, and getting curb-stomped by Yoruichi; all it did was tip off Lelouch as to one of his best trump cards. Surely a supervised intra Espada battle]] would have been more productive; while it's explained in story that Tally didn't want to [[spoiler: risk [[spoiler:risk damaging his Espada in such an exercise, Ganty's abject performance]] sort of belies his argument.



** If Aizen's such a hassle, why not just forcibly reincarnate him? End of problem; could even considered a FateWorseThanDeath to someone like Aizen.

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** If Aizen's such a hassle, why not just forcibly reincarnate him? End of problem; could even be considered a FateWorseThanDeath to for someone like Aizen.
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Tsukishima]] crossed it for every [=YoruSoi=] fan when he [[spoiler: Made Soifon completely forget about Yoruichi]]
** [[spoiler: Guinevere su Britannia]] crossed it by [[spoiler:setting up a trap to have Cornelia to become a War Criminal with a mission that caused her to unintentionally kill innocent Britannian civilians knowing well of her mental condition.]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Tsukishima]] crossed it for every [=YoruSoi=] fan when he [[spoiler: Made [[spoiler:made Soifon completely forget about Yoruichi]]
** [[spoiler: Guinevere [[spoiler:Guinevere su Britannia]] crossed it by [[spoiler:setting up a trap to have Cornelia to become a War Criminal with a mission that caused her to unintentionally kill innocent Britannian civilians knowing well of her mental condition.]]
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** o Unohana letting down her braid, being an absolute terror on the battlefield and her DarkAndTroubledPast are a downplayed version of this given [[Manga/{{Bleach}} canon]].

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** o Unohana letting down her braid, being an absolute terror on the battlefield and her DarkAndTroubledPast are a downplayed version of this given [[Manga/{{Bleach}} canon]].
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*** Kenpachi's admiration for Yachiru Hekira; now we know who the ''real'' first Yachiru was...and also [[spoiler: Kenny's LotusEaterMachine dream, with Unohana as part of a BigBadassFamily; we now know the two hate each other's guts.]]

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*** Kenpachi's admiration for Yachiru Hekira; now we know who the ''real'' first Yachiru was...and also [[spoiler: Kenny's LotusEaterMachine dream, with Unohana as part of a BigBadassFamily; BadassFamily; we now know the two hate each other's guts.]]

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* DracoInLeatherPants: While the author himself admits knows that his fabricated backstory for Cornelia doesn't excuse what she does, making this a subversion for him, since his intentions were to just show how [[FourStarBadass Cornelia]] {{b|reakTheCutie}}ecame [[TheStoic what]] [[IronLady she]] [[TragicHero is]], there are fans see [[TheWoobie the effect]] [[HeroicBSOD this is]] [[BreakTheCutie having on]] [[IronWoobie Cornelia]] and giving her this treatment.
** It is easy to give [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Kasumi]] this treatment as well considering her DarkAndTroubledPast, but one must not forget that her reasons may or may not justify her actions. And there are still some who might forget that she's not the nicest person in the world.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: [[TheQuietOne Vera]], much to the author's own surprise.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: While the author himself admits knows that his fabricated backstory for Cornelia doesn't excuse what she does, making this a subversion for him, since his intentions were to just show how [[FourStarBadass Cornelia]] {{b|reakTheCutie}}ecame [[TheStoic what]] [[IronLady she]] [[TragicHero is]], there are fans see [[TheWoobie the effect]] [[HeroicBSOD this is]] [[BreakTheCutie having on]] [[IronWoobie Cornelia]] and giving her this treatment.
** It is easy to give [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Kasumi]] this treatment as well considering her DarkAndTroubledPast, but one must not forget that her reasons may or may not justify her actions. And there are still some who might forget that she's not the nicest person in the world.
%% * EnsembleDarkhorse: [[TheQuietOne Vera]], much to the author's own surprise.



** Rita and Kasumi.

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%% ** Rita and Kasumi.



* NightmareFuel:
** [[spoiler: Unohana’s Bankai]]
** [[spoiler: Don’t break the rules of Shunsui’s Bankai. The end result is not pretty]].
** [[spoiler:Zero torturing Viletta before going ahead and killing her. In fact that whole scene at the beginning of 175 was like something straight out of a horror flick]].
*** [[spoiler:Only that? How about his attack on poor Nunnally?]]

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%% * NightmareFuel:
%% ** [[spoiler: Unohana’s Bankai]]
%% ** [[spoiler: Don’t break the rules of Shunsui’s Bankai. The end result is not pretty]].
%% ** [[spoiler:Zero torturing Viletta before going ahead and killing her. In fact that whole scene at the beginning of 175 was like something straight out of a horror flick]].
*** [[spoiler:Only that? How about his attack on poor Nunnally?]]
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* TheScrappy: Guinevere to some. She’s just about everything we hate about the empire [[RichBitch stuck up]] arrogant and [[MagnificentBastard downright]] [[ManipulativeBastard diabolical]]. In a CrapsackWorld she makes [[IronLady Cor]][[TheStoic nel]][[SpoiledSweet ia]] such the lesser of two evils (if you don’t find her to be the IronWoobie) that, for some, it goes right to making a case of BlackAndWhiteMorality between the two sisters. Yeesh.



** Subverted when [[spoiler:Lelouch fights Aizen head on, by himself. It was all part of his plan]].
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Marianne, Inoue of the Black Knights and Cornelia are all given this treatment.
** Cornelia is portrayed as a [[PluckyGirl plucky]] [[WideEyedIdealist youth]] who [[BreakTheCutie suffers]] and [[HeroicBSOD suffers]] [[TookALevelInJerkass until]] she [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids sees the world for what it is]]. This is instead of her being [[PerpetualFrowner all iron]] from day one, Cornelia here is shown to have [[SheIsAllGrownUp grown into]] [[LadyOfWar how she's shown]] [[IronLady in canon]]. [[WordOfGod According to draconichero]] Cornelia's backstory was based from the simple facts that she [[TheKnightsWhoSaySquee adored Marianne]] and actually [[RebelliousPrincess left the empire]] in the second season ''just'' to clear [[ApocalypseMaiden Euphemia's name]]. He said that before that Cornelia was nothing more to him than just another [[TheBaroness cool villain]]. And the rest is history.
** Inoue [[spoiler:is really a mentally troubled [[NamesTheSame Inoue]] Orihime using a false alias to work with the Black Knights to look for Ichigo]].
** Marianne [[spoiler:actually loves her children, did not approve of Charles’ war with Japan and]] shares in Lelouch’s [[CrazyPrepared crazy-preparedness]] and backup planning, showing those fancy genetics, [[spoiler:and, unlike Charles, was prepared for a backup plan in case the Ragnarok Connection failed. She believes in the end result Charles was trying to bring about, but did not share his motivations. She believed the Ragnarok Connection would save the world from itself]]. [[spoiler:Her parents also died when she was little, creating a FreudianExcuse and showing that CC was her OnlyFriend for a time. Someone like this would certainly think mankind needed to be saved from itself. When she tells Lelouch she put up a facade in front of him and Nunnally [[StepfordSmiler she wasn't kidding]]]].
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* PossessionSue: One could argue a case of this for [[spoiler: [[TookALevelInBadass Captain]] [[AdaptationalBadass of Squad 10]]]] [[GuileHero Lelouch]] [[TheChessmaster Lamperouge]]; the author has denied this.
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* JustHereForGodzilla: Several fans are harping on the point in the story where [[spoiler: [[FishOutOfTemporalWater Lelouch]] will go to the World of Living during CodeGeass canon]] some of which, upon inquiry even admitted they would stop reading if the author aborted that arc.

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* JustHereForGodzilla: Several fans are harping on the point in the story where [[spoiler: [[FishOutOfTemporalWater Lelouch]] will go to the World of Living during CodeGeass Anime/CodeGeass canon]] some of which, upon inquiry even admitted they would stop reading if the author aborted that arc.

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*** Ichigo and Orihime 's [[spoiler: RelationshipUpgrade. Took them a while, but now ''official'' OfficialCouple, with a son Kazui!]]



** Unohana letting down her braid, being an absolute terror on the battlefield and her DarkAndTroubledPast are a downplayed version of this given [[Manga/{{Bleach}} canon]].

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** **o Unohana letting down her braid, being an absolute terror on the battlefield and her DarkAndTroubledPast are a downplayed version of this given [[Manga/{{Bleach}} canon]].



*** Kenpachi's zanpakuto spirit being a huge manly Chick Norris expy. Now we know it's actually [[spoiler: the cute little girl Yachiru Kusajishi.]]



** Rukia trying to get bankai. [[spoiler: HAKKA NO TOGAME!!!]] Also, Renji being the ButtMonkey....just look at him now.
** [[spoiler: Yhwach, and by extension the entire Vandenreich,]] being a nice guy. The more we learn about him, the more and more unlikely it looks. The Stinger also gains a certain value of funny given recent developments.
** [[spoiler: Aizen managing to kill Yhwach, who had help.]] At present, the two aren't even comparable.
** Kenpachi's zanpakuto spirit being a huge manly Chick Norris expy. Now we know it's actually [[spoiler: the cute little girl Yachiru Kusajishi.]]

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** Rukia trying to get bankai. [[spoiler: HAKKA NO TOGAME!!!]] Also, Renji being the ButtMonkey....just look at him now.
ButtMonkey [[spoiler: who DidNotGetTheGirl. In the last arc he TookALevelInBadass, and as of canon's epilogue has a RelationshipUpgrade with [[OfficialCouple Rukia]], and is the father of her daughter Ichika.]]
** [[spoiler: Yhwach, and by extension the entire Vandenreich,]] being a nice guy. The more we learn about him, the more and more unlikely it looks. In retrospect, the idea that Lelouch was able to convince them to pull a HeelFaceTurn becomes this when we find out just how far back it goes.
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The Stinger also gains a certain value of funny given recent developments.
** [[spoiler: Aizen managing to kill Yhwach, who had help.]] At present, the two aren't even comparable.
** Kenpachi's zanpakuto spirit being a huge manly Chick Norris expy. Now we know it's actually
comparable. [[spoiler: In canon, when the cute little girl Yachiru Kusajishi.two do cross swords, while Aizen probably does better than anyone else in the story against Godbach, he still loses quite handily.]]
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* EarWorm: Shuren’s incantation: Fire burn and fire roar, total destruction from mountain to shore. Does not help that it sounds very similar to the line [[TheSmurfs Gargamel]] spouts in the opening sequence.
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* PossessionSue: One could argue a case of this for [[spoiler: [[TookALevelInBadass Captain]] [[AdaptationalBadass of Squad 10]]]] [[GuileHero Lelouch]] [[TheChessmaster Lamperouge]]; the author has denied this. While not a complete Sue, he does have moments of Sue-dom, particularly as a product of 'Sue-by-association' with Aizen and Lelouch's constant desire to one-up him.

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* PossessionSue: One could argue a case of this for [[spoiler: [[TookALevelInBadass Captain]] [[AdaptationalBadass of Squad 10]]]] [[GuileHero Lelouch]] [[TheChessmaster Lamperouge]]; the author has denied this. While not a complete Sue, he does have moments of Sue-dom, particularly as a product of 'Sue-by-association' with Aizen and Lelouch's constant desire to one-up him.

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** Kenpachi's zanpakuto spirit being a huge manly Chick Norris expy. Now we know it's actually [[spoiler: the cute little girl Yachiru Kusajishi.]]



** Surely the idea was for everyone to fight Aizen together for the final battle; he did Ichigo the service of waiting for everyone else after him to show up. Kenpachi, being a BloodKnight, you can understand, but why did Stefan, Yhwach and Kensei, who have a bit more sense, try to fight him before the rest arrived?

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** Surely the idea was for everyone to fight Aizen together for the final battle; he did Ichigo the service of waiting for everyone else after him to show up. Kenpachi, being a BloodKnight, you can understand, but why did Stefan, Yhwach and Kensei, who have a bit more sense, try to fight him before the rest arrived? arrived?

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* DracoInLeatherPants: While the author himself admits knows that his fabricated backstory for Cornelia doesn't excuse what she does, making this a subversion for him, since his intentions were to just show how [[FourStarBadass Cornelia]] [[BreakTheCutie became]] [[TheStoic what]] [[IronLady she]] [[TragicHero is]], there are fans see [[TheWoobie the effect]] [[HeroicBSOD this is]] [[BreakTheCutie having on]] [[IronWoobie Cornelia]] and giving her this treatment.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: While the author himself admits knows that his fabricated backstory for Cornelia doesn't excuse what she does, making this a subversion for him, since his intentions were to just show how [[FourStarBadass Cornelia]] [[BreakTheCutie became]] {{b|reakTheCutie}}ecame [[TheStoic what]] [[IronLady she]] [[TragicHero is]], there are fans see [[TheWoobie the effect]] [[HeroicBSOD this is]] [[BreakTheCutie having on]] [[IronWoobie Cornelia]] and giving her this treatment.



* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In chapter 31, Rukia draws [[spoiler:her and Hisana attacking Byakuya]]. Come chapter 34, this becomes decidedly less amusing. [[spoiler:[[ChekhovsGun It also came back to bite]] Byakuya during Lelouch's trial.]]

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: In chapter 31, Rukia draws [[spoiler:her and Hisana attacking Byakuya]]. Come chapter 34, this becomes decidedly less amusing. [[spoiler:[[ChekhovsGun It also came back to bite]] Byakuya during Lelouch's trial.]]trial]].



** In the omake of chapter 71, Tatsuki uses [[StreetFighter Shoryuken]] to defeat [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason]]. In chapter 80 [[spoiler: her alternate persona slash sort of kind of Zanpakuto spirit, but not really]] Kaibun uses the move against [[spoiler: Uryu]]

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** In the omake of chapter 71, Tatsuki uses [[StreetFighter Shoryuken]] Franchise/{{S|treetFighter}}horyuken to defeat [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason]]. In chapter 80 [[spoiler: her alternate persona slash sort of kind of Zanpakuto spirit, but not really]] Kaibun uses the move against [[spoiler: Uryu]]



*** Following up on this [[spoiler:Yamamoto dies in this fic too and now via the latest chapter as of this edit he's now Dead in {{Canon}} as well.]]
** [[spoiler:When Ichigo [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome is later revealed to be alive]] he tells Cornelia that he would have helped her if she had tried to talk to him]].

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*** Following up on this [[spoiler:Yamamoto dies in this fic too and now via the latest chapter as of this edit he's now Dead in {{Canon}} as well.]]
well]].
** [[spoiler:When Ichigo [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome is later revealed to be alive]] he tells Cornelia that he would have helped her if she had tried to talk to him]].



** The name of the first Soul Reaper in existence is Feluca Tetelra Sharaimyn. In the omake of ch 134 the Soul King’s true form is [[spoiler:[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Fluttershy]]]]. Look at the name long enough, you’ll notice the [[MeaningfulName meaning]] and that [[spoiler:this makes Feluca and the Soul King one in the same]]. This then begs the question: [[spoiler:[[NoodleIncident how did Feluca become a pony]]?]]

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** The name of the first Soul Reaper in existence is Feluca Tetelra Sharaimyn. In the omake of ch 134 the Soul King’s true form is [[spoiler:[[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Fluttershy]]]]. Look at the name long enough, you’ll notice the [[MeaningfulName meaning]] {{meaning|fulName}} and that [[spoiler:this makes Feluca and the Soul King one in the same]]. This then begs the question: [[spoiler:[[NoodleIncident how did Feluca become a pony]]?]]



** Rukia trying to get bankai. [[spoiler: HAKKA NO TOGAME!!!]]. Also, Renji being the ButtMonkey....just look at him now.

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** Rukia trying to get bankai. [[spoiler: HAKKA NO TOGAME!!!]]. TOGAME!!!]] Also, Renji being the ButtMonkey....just look at him now.



** [[spoiler: Aizen managing to kill Yhwach, who had help]]. At present, the two aren't even comparable.

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** [[spoiler: Aizen managing to kill Yhwach, who had help]]. help.]] At present, the two aren't even comparable.



** On the female side, Cornelia and Nonette tend to come across as more than friends very often. Even when she was a teenager, Nonette would make flirtatious comments.
** Kallen and Inoue have this Big sister/Little sister going on between them that has led to fans seeing them as more than just friends.
** Yuna and Mari
** Yoruichi and Soifon, [[spoiler:who become an OfficialCouple]].



** The same can now be extended to the two arcs that comprised of R1 and [[OddlyNamedSequel R2]] of Anime/CodeGeass since the whole point of them is to show what's in the background. There were several scenes that are noticable to give the reader a hint as to where in the series the scenes are taking place, but ultimately nothing that you can't just go to the anime and watch is used unless it can be, in the author's own words, changed or modified to add new information.

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** The same can now be extended to the two arcs that comprised of R1 and [[OddlyNamedSequel [[OddlyNamedSequel2ElectricBoogaloo R2]] of Anime/CodeGeass since the whole point of them is to show what's in the background. There were several scenes that are noticable to give the reader a hint as to where in the series the scenes are taking place, but ultimately nothing that you can't just go to the anime and watch is used unless it can be, in the author's own words, changed or modified to add new information.



* LesYay: Cornelia and Nonette tend to come across as more than friends very often. Even when she was a teenager, Nonette would make flirtatious comments.
** Kallen and Inoue have this Big sister/Little sister going on between them that has led to fans seeing them as more than just friends.
** Yuna and Mari
** Yoruichi and Soifon, [[spoiler:who become an OfficialCouple]].



* TheScrappy: Guinevere to some. She’s just about everything we hate about the empire [[RichBitch stuck up]] arrogant and [[MagnificentBitch downright]] [[ManipulativeBitch diabolical]]. In a CrapsackWorld she makes [[IronLady Cor]][[TheStoic nel]][[SpoiledSweet ia]] such the lesser of two evils (if you don’t find her to be the IronWoobie) that, for some, it goes right to making a case of BlackAndWhiteMorality between the two sisters. Yeesh.

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* TheScrappy: Guinevere to some. She’s just about everything we hate about the empire [[RichBitch stuck up]] arrogant and [[MagnificentBitch [[MagnificentBastard downright]] [[ManipulativeBitch [[ManipulativeBastard diabolical]]. In a CrapsackWorld she makes [[IronLady Cor]][[TheStoic nel]][[SpoiledSweet ia]] such the lesser of two evils (if you don’t find her to be the IronWoobie) that, for some, it goes right to making a case of BlackAndWhiteMorality between the two sisters. Yeesh.



** Subverted when [[spoiler:Lelouch fights Aizen head on, by himself. It was all part of his plan.]]

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** Subverted when [[spoiler:Lelouch fights Aizen head on, by himself. It was all part of his plan.]]plan]].



** Did Needles really think he was going to get away with [[spoiler: [[AttemptedRape attempting to rape]] Orihime or convince Ichigo to join in on the action. And then trying to spinelessly back out of it?]] The man is lucky Ichigo left him breathing.

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** Did Needles really think he was going to get away with [[spoiler: [[AttemptedRape attempting to rape]] Orihime or convince Ichigo to join in on the action. action? And then trying to spinelessly back out of it?]] it]]? The man is lucky Ichigo left him breathing.



** In the same vein, Tally had less of a numerical disadvantage in the first battle (2-to-1 vs 3-to-1), yet played completely into Lelouch's hands by sacraficing his mooks basically for nothing in the first.

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** In the same vein, Tally had less of a numerical disadvantage in the first battle (2-to-1 vs 3-to-1), yet played completely into Lelouch's hands by sacraficing sacrificing his mooks basically for nothing in the first.

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** Isshin being captain of the tenth division and being a member of the Shiba clan

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** Isshin being captain of the tenth division and being a member of the Shiba clanclan. Slight miss about how they are related (uncle and nephew, not cousins), but it's immaterial for the most part.
** Rukia trying to get bankai. [[spoiler: HAKKA NO TOGAME!!!]]. Also, Renji being the ButtMonkey....just look at him now.
** [[spoiler: Yhwach, and by extension the entire Vandenreich,]] being a nice guy. The more we learn about him, the more and more unlikely it looks. The Stinger also gains a certain value of funny given recent developments.
** [[spoiler: Aizen managing to kill Yhwach, who had help]]. At present, the two aren't even comparable.
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** Some of the author's decisions have been amazingly prophetic, while others have been hilariously wide of the mark...


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*** Some of Minazuki Zenmetsu's abilities aren't that far removed from her canon bankai's abilities.


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*** Kenpachi's admiration for Yachiru Hekira; now we know who the ''real'' first Yachiru was...and also [[spoiler: Kenny's LotusEaterMachine dream, with Unohana as part of a BigBadassFamily; we now know the two hate each other's guts.]]
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* DracoInLeatherPants: While the author himself admits knows that his fabricated backstory for Cornelia doesn't excuse what she does, making this a subversion for him, since his intentions were to just show how [[FourStarBadass Cornelia]] [[BreakTheCutie became]] [[TheStoic what]] [[IronLady she]] [[TragicHero is]], there are [[FanDumb fans]] see [[TheWoobie the effect]] [[HeroicBSOD this is]] [[BreakTheCutie having on]] [[IronWoobie Cornelia]] and giving her this treatment.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: While the author himself admits knows that his fabricated backstory for Cornelia doesn't excuse what she does, making this a subversion for him, since his intentions were to just show how [[FourStarBadass Cornelia]] [[BreakTheCutie became]] [[TheStoic what]] [[IronLady she]] [[TragicHero is]], there are [[FanDumb fans]] fans see [[TheWoobie the effect]] [[HeroicBSOD this is]] [[BreakTheCutie having on]] [[IronWoobie Cornelia]] and giving her this treatment.
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* AuthorFilibuster: The author's admiration for Lelouch is well known; he lists him as his favourite animanga charater after all. In this, it seems the story goes out of its way to try and make a lot of the cast be like him, with liberal helpings of DarkAndTroubledPast, DespairEventHorizon, and so on to try and explain the change. While not up to Terumi's standards, for instance, Lelouch's belief that the world is full of lies does come become kind of evangelical, particularly with regards to Momo, who laps it up. The characters themselves seem glad that they been through this, a they feel stronger for it, and considering the results [[spoiler:(Momo's Bankai, for instance)]] it's probably well founded, though while obviously intended to sound {{Badass}}, the way it's said can come across as kind of Narmy, which is apt given it's Lelouch, who is pretty famous among fans for his fabulously narmy facial expressions. This does come at the cost of individuality though, as some of the character's defining features have been lost as a result of the change.



* HandWave: A pretty bad one; If Yuna was never really in love with Lelouch like she said long after they decided they were BetterAsFriends, then how did they perform Synergy strike back when they fought against Tally-chan, something only [[HappilyMarried Byakuya and Hisana]] have also been seen doing? Especially when such a bond was stated to be a requirement. Surely, having had several decades to sort out her feelings for him even before the fight with Hoshima, she'd know if she truly loved him or not. The simple 'You're not the same guy I fell in love with' she told him back when they broke up was fine as it was.

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* {{Fandumb}}: Too many people ask if the [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Thousand Year Blood arc]] is going to be used when the author has specifically stated, more than once, that he is not using it for the series' purposes.
** Back when the series was still relatively new, people thought Tosen would betray Lelouch. [[LateArrivalSpoiler He did not]].
** There are also people who skim too quickly through chapters and miss the WhamLine regarding [[spoiler:Susanna's ConvenientMiscarriage]].
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* AuthorFilibuster: The author's admiration for Lelouch is well known; he lists him as his favourite animanga charater after all. In this, it seems the story goes out of its way to try and make a lot of the cast be like him, with liberal helpings of DarkAndTroubledPast, DespairEventHorizon, and so on to try and explain the change. While not up to Terumi's standards, for instance, Lelouch's belief that the world is full of lies does come become kind of evangelical, particularly with regards to Momo, who laps it up. The characters themselves seem glad that they been through this, a they feel stronger for it, and considering the results [[spoiler:(Momo's Bankai, for instance)]] it's probably well founded, though while obviously intended to sound {{Badass}}, the way it's said can come across as kind of Narmy, which is apt given it's Lelouch, who is pretty famous among fans for his fabulously narmy facial expressions. This does come at the cost of individuality though, as some of the character's defining features have been lost as a result of the change.

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** Three words; 'I must atone'. Yuna wasn't the only one who wanted to punch Leouch after that one.
** Momo announcing to the world that she'd be the new Zero; so if we see Zero in town doing vigilante-esque things, we all know it's really 4th division taicho Hinamori, and now we know who to write to and complain. Also, great way of painting a huge bullseye on your back Momo (Civil War, anyone?). For someone who's supposed to be Lelouch's protege, and a lot less naive than Canon Momo, that was pretty thick in the opinion of this troper.
** Free Lelouch: [[spoiler: Lelouch gets put on trial by the captains for being Zero; long story short, he's acquitted unanimously. Shunsui and Ukitake, who both also did some technically illegal things during Eye Of The Storm, and Tosen, who's outed himself as Lelouch's partner in crime, you can understand backing him to the hilt, even Sajin, who respects what he's trying to do, but Yamamoto also agrees, which kind of flies in the face of what he stands for; he can't have known Lelouch long enough to be as loyal as that to him, and he's not the sort to be swayed by stories like Lelouch's. Byakuya may be Lelouch's BFF, but again, is his friendship more important than his belief in the system? Yes, Byakuya is much less extreme here, and possibly had Hisana in his ear which helped, but I still find it a little hard to swallow that he'd side with Lelouch so completely. And finally Mayuri, who also acquits him, despite finding out Lelouch mind raped him, and has the personality that he'd more likely give a guilty verdict just for petty revenge. Even Stefan, for much the same reasons as Byakuya, only not being anything like as close to Lelouch. It also makes the complete about face many of them perform after Zero Requiem, despite HAVING ALREADY BEEN TOLD WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, all the more jarring.]]
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* TakeThatScrappy: A lot of Nina haters [[AndTheFandomRejoiced probably liked]] [[spoiler:Zero devouring her soul.]]

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* TakeThatScrappy: A lot of Nina haters [[AndTheFandomRejoiced probably liked]] liked [[spoiler:Zero devouring her soul.]]
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** Kasumi not keeping a closer eye on Aizen; she knew he couldn't be trusted, yet did nothing to stop him from pulling a fast one and taking the power himself.
** If Aizen's such a hassle, why not just forcibly reincarnate him? End of problem; could even considered a FateWorseThanDeath to someone like Aizen.
** Surely the idea was for everyone to fight Aizen together for the final battle; he did Ichigo the service of waiting for everyone else after him to show up. Kenpachi, being a BloodKnight, you can understand, but why did Stefan, Yhwach and Kensei, who have a bit more sense, try to fight him before the rest arrived?
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* TakeThatScrappy: A lot of Nina haters probably liked [[spoiler:Zero devouring her soul.]]

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* TakeThatScrappy: A lot of Nina haters [[AndTheFandomRejoiced probably liked liked]] [[spoiler:Zero devouring her soul.]]



* TheWoobie: Orihime takes this trope UpToEleven in the Within Zero’s Shadow arc. Seriously get that girl some help...or committed.

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* TheWoobie: Orihime takes this trope UpToEleven in the Within Zero’s Shadow arc. Seriously get that girl some help...or committed. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot Such a pity then that nothing was really done]] with the TakingALevelInBadass that resulted.

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* MarySue: Lelouch has been accused of this in a few quarters; the author has denied this. While not a complete Sue, he does have moments of Sue-dom, particularly as a product of 'Sue-by-association' with Aizen and Lelouch's constant to desire to one-up him.



* PossessionSue: One could argue a case of this for [[spoiler: [[TookALevelInBadass Captain]] [[AdaptationalBadass of Squad 10]]]] [[GuileHero Lelouch]] [[TheChessmaster Lamperouge]].

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* PossessionSue: One could argue a case of this for [[spoiler: [[TookALevelInBadass Captain]] [[AdaptationalBadass of Squad 10]]]] [[GuileHero Lelouch]] [[TheChessmaster Lamperouge]].Lamperouge]]; the author has denied this. While not a complete Sue, he does have moments of Sue-dom, particularly as a product of 'Sue-by-association' with Aizen and Lelouch's constant desire to one-up him.
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* HandWave: A pretty bad one; If Yuna was never really in love with Lelouch like she said long after they decided they were BetterAsFriends, then how did they perform Synergy strike back when they fought against Tally-chan, something only [[HappilyMarried Byakuya and Hisana]] have also been seen doing? Especially when such a bond was stated to be a requirement. Surely, having had several decades to sort out her feelings for him even before the fight with Hoshima, she'd know if she truly loved him or not. The simple 'You're not the same guy I fell in love with' she told him back when they broke up was fine as it was.
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* MarySue: Lelouch has been accused of this in a few quarters; the author has denied this. While not a complete Sue, he does have moments of Sue-dom, particularly as a product of 'Sue-by-association' with Aizen and Lelouch's constant to desire to one-up him.
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** Free Lelouch: [[spoiler: Lelouch gets put on trial by the captains for being Zero; long story short, he's acquitted unanimously. Shunsui and Ukitake, who both also did some technically illegal things during Eye Of The Storm, and Tosen, who's outed himself as Lelouch's partner in crime, you can understand backing him to the hilt, even Sajin, who respects what he's trying to do, but Yamamoto also agrees, which kind of flies in the face of what he stands for; he can't have known Lelouch long enough to be as loyal as that to him, and he's not the sort to be swayed by stories like Lelouch's. Byakuya may be Lelouch's BFF, but again, is his friendship more important than his belief in the system? Yes, Byakuya is much less extreme here, and possibly had Hisana in his ear which helped, but I still find it a little hard to swallow that he'd side with Lelouch so completely. And finally Mayuri, who also acquits him, despite finding out Lelouch mind raped him, and has the personality that he'd more likely give a guilty verdict just for petty revenge. Even Stefan, for much the same reasons as Byakuya, only not being anything like as close to Lelouch. It also makes the complete about face many of them perform after Zero Requiem, despite [[RantInducingSight HAVING ALREADY BEEN TOLD WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN]], all the more jarring.

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** Free Lelouch: [[spoiler: Lelouch gets put on trial by the captains for being Zero; long story short, he's acquitted unanimously. Shunsui and Ukitake, who both also did some technically illegal things during Eye Of The Storm, and Tosen, who's outed himself as Lelouch's partner in crime, you can understand backing him to the hilt, even Sajin, who respects what he's trying to do, but Yamamoto also agrees, which kind of flies in the face of what he stands for; he can't have known Lelouch long enough to be as loyal as that to him, and he's not the sort to be swayed by stories like Lelouch's. Byakuya may be Lelouch's BFF, but again, is his friendship more important than his belief in the system? Yes, Byakuya is much less extreme here, and possibly had Hisana in his ear which helped, but I still find it a little hard to swallow that he'd side with Lelouch so completely. And finally Mayuri, who also acquits him, despite finding out Lelouch mind raped him, and has the personality that he'd more likely give a guilty verdict just for petty revenge. Even Stefan, for much the same reasons as Byakuya, only not being anything like as close to Lelouch. It also makes the complete about face many of them perform after Zero Requiem, despite [[RantInducingSight HAVING ALREADY BEEN TOLD WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN]], HAPPEN, all the more jarring.]]
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** Momo announcing to the world that she'd be the new Zero; so if we see Zero in town doing vigilante-esque things, we all know it's really 4th division taicho Hinamori, and now we know who to write to and complain. Also, great way of painting a huge bullseye on your back Momo (Civil War, anyone?). For someone who's supposed to be Lelouch's protege, and a lot less naive than Canon Momo, that was pretty thick in the opinion of this troper.

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** Momo announcing to the world that she'd be the new Zero; so if we see Zero in town doing vigilante-esque things, we all know it's really 4th division taicho Hinamori, and now we know who to write to and complain. Also, great way of painting a huge bullseye on your back Momo (Civil War, anyone?). For someone who's supposed to be Lelouch's protege, and a lot less naive than Canon Momo, that was pretty thick in the opinion of this troper.troper.
** Free Lelouch: [[spoiler: Lelouch gets put on trial by the captains for being Zero; long story short, he's acquitted unanimously. Shunsui and Ukitake, who both also did some technically illegal things during Eye Of The Storm, and Tosen, who's outed himself as Lelouch's partner in crime, you can understand backing him to the hilt, even Sajin, who respects what he's trying to do, but Yamamoto also agrees, which kind of flies in the face of what he stands for; he can't have known Lelouch long enough to be as loyal as that to him, and he's not the sort to be swayed by stories like Lelouch's. Byakuya may be Lelouch's BFF, but again, is his friendship more important than his belief in the system? Yes, Byakuya is much less extreme here, and possibly had Hisana in his ear which helped, but I still find it a little hard to swallow that he'd side with Lelouch so completely. And finally Mayuri, who also acquits him, despite finding out Lelouch mind raped him, and has the personality that he'd more likely give a guilty verdict just for petty revenge. Even Stefan, for much the same reasons as Byakuya, only not being anything like as close to Lelouch. It also makes the complete about face many of them perform after Zero Requiem, despite [[RantInducingSight HAVING ALREADY BEEN TOLD WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN]], all the more jarring.

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** Talbumosuke sending [[spoiler: Gantebainne into town to test Segunda Etapa, and getting curb-stomped by Yoruichi; all it did was tip off Lelouch as to one of his best trump cards. Surely a supervised intra Espada battle]] would have been more productive...

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** Talbumosuke sending [[spoiler: Gantebainne into town to test Segunda Etapa, and getting curb-stomped by Yoruichi; all it did was tip off Lelouch as to one of his best trump cards. Surely a supervised intra Espada battle]] would have been more productive...productive; while it's explained in story that Tally didn't want to [[spoiler: risk damaging his Espada in such an exercise, Ganty's abject performance]] sort of belies his argument.



** Three words; 'I must atone'. Yuna wasn't the only one who wanted to punch Leouch after that one.

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** Three words; 'I must atone'. Yuna wasn't the only one who wanted to punch Leouch after that one.one.
** Momo announcing to the world that she'd be the new Zero; so if we see Zero in town doing vigilante-esque things, we all know it's really 4th division taicho Hinamori, and now we know who to write to and complain. Also, great way of painting a huge bullseye on your back Momo (Civil War, anyone?). For someone who's supposed to be Lelouch's protege, and a lot less naive than Canon Momo, that was pretty thick in the opinion of this troper.
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** In the same vein, Tally had less of a numerical disadvantage in the first battle (2-to-1 vs 3-to-1), yet played completely into Lelouch's hands by sacraficing his mooks basically for nothing in the first.

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** In the same vein, Tally had less of a numerical disadvantage in the first battle (2-to-1 vs 3-to-1), yet played completely into Lelouch's hands by sacraficing his mooks basically for nothing in the first.first.
** Three words; 'I must atone'. Yuna wasn't the only one who wanted to punch Leouch after that one.

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