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* CharacterRerailment: Knuckles in this game has gone back to his stoic, independent portrayal from the ''Adventure'' games as opposed to the hotheaded DumbMuscle he was portrayed as in the mid-2000s.
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* BrokenBase: The game's story. Is it a creative and interesting addition to the ''Sonic'' lore, with fun characterization and dialogue? Or is
* CharacterRerailment: Knuckles in this game hasgone back to taken more elements from his stoic, independent portrayal from the ''Adventure'' games as opposed to the hotheaded DumbMuscle he was portrayed as in the mid-2000s.
* CharacterRerailment: Knuckles in this game has
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: The 3D gameplay models for the characters look ''very'' cluttered and uncanny (especially compared to what the ''VideoGame/SonicRushSeries'' had to offer), with their lack of detail and disproportionately-sized eyes, and the other visuals alongside them don't look too good, either. The 2D in-game artwork is relatively better, but the animated cutscenes especially tend to look OffModel relatively frequently.
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* AntiClimaxBoss: The FinalBoss fight, Super Sonic vs. Imperator Ix, comes down to a series of easy ActionCommands not unlike the ones you've been using for the entire game. Even if you mess Super Sonic's attack up (Ix fully heals if he isn't beaten in one turn with a perfect attack), the battle just gets locked into a stalemate with a low chance of you losing
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* AntiClimaxBoss: The FinalBoss fight, Super Sonic vs. Imperator Ix, comes down to a series of easy ActionCommands not unlike the ones you've been using for the entire game. Even if you mess Super Sonic's attack up (Ix fully heals if he isn't beaten in one turn with a perfect attack), the battle just gets locked into a stalemate with a low chance of you losinglosing.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The aliens of the Twilight Cage are interesting even if they mostly take traits from standard sci-fi races, as [[NonStandardCharacterDesign their designs are unique for the series]]. Unfortunately, the game starts rushing through the plot during the Twilight Cage section, so they don't get much focus and two of them (the N'rrgal and Zoah) have to share a chapter.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
** The aliens of the Twilight Cage are interesting even if they mostly take traits from standard sci-fi races, as [[NonStandardCharacterDesign their designs are unique for the series]]. Unfortunately, the game starts rushing through the plot during the Twilight Cage section, so they don't get much focus and two of them (the N'rrgal and Zoah) have to share achapter.chapter.
** The playable cast with the exception of Knuckles stops having meaningful story content once they arrive at the Twilight Cage around chapter 6. Team Dark in specific have nothing going on for them once they enter the Twilight Cage besides an optional side-quest with Rouge; and one interaction of Shadow running around if he is not in your team, which is ultimately pointless. [[OptionalPartyMember Omega nor Cream have anything going on for them.]]
** While the concept of Shade as a former member of the Nocturnus Clan has potential, Shade doesn't have an arc of her own once she joins the team. She is mostly around to [[InfoDump provide information to the cast about the Twilight Cage]], and to talk with Knuckles a bit during the last chapter on his feelings on their kind. The game doesn't expand upon her feelings of leaving the Twilight Zone in the last act, nor how she feels about leaving behind her kingdom. At best, we have internal regrets of betraying Ix during one boss fight, but nothing comes out of this.
** The aliens of the Twilight Cage are interesting even if they mostly take traits from standard sci-fi races, as [[NonStandardCharacterDesign their designs are unique for the series]]. Unfortunately, the game starts rushing through the plot during the Twilight Cage section, so they don't get much focus and two of them (the N'rrgal and Zoah) have to share a
** The playable cast with the exception of Knuckles stops having meaningful story content once they arrive at the Twilight Cage around chapter 6. Team Dark in specific have nothing going on for them once they enter the Twilight Cage besides an optional side-quest with Rouge; and one interaction of Shadow running around if he is not in your team, which is ultimately pointless. [[OptionalPartyMember Omega nor Cream have anything going on for them.]]
** While the concept of Shade as a former member of the Nocturnus Clan has potential, Shade doesn't have an arc of her own once she joins the team. She is mostly around to [[InfoDump provide information to the cast about the Twilight Cage]], and to talk with Knuckles a bit during the last chapter on his feelings on their kind. The game doesn't expand upon her feelings of leaving the Twilight Zone in the last act, nor how she feels about leaving behind her kingdom. At best, we have internal regrets of betraying Ix during one boss fight, but nothing comes out of this.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Some have considered ''Chronicles''' portrayal of certain characters as [[TookALevelInJerkass more mean-spirited]], as seen with available dialogue options ([[NiceGuy Sonic]] in particular has the option to [[KickTheDog outright throw insults]] at characters like Amy). Thus, some people tend to be put off by the rest of the plot as a result.
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* DancingBear: A lot of the hype the game got in development and upon release was purely because it was ''Creator/{{Bioware}}'', best known for ''Franchise/MassEffect'' and ''Franchise/DragonAge'' franchises, making an RPG ''Sonic'' game.
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* DancingBear: A lot of the hype the game got in development and upon release was purely because it was ''Creator/{{Bioware}}'', Creator/BioWare, best known for the ''Franchise/MassEffect'' and ''Franchise/DragonAge'' franchises, making an RPG ''Sonic'' game.
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* MisBlamed: SEGA received plenty of criticism for the game's shortcomings, even though the game was made by Bioware, who ran into a lot of TroubledProduction regarding it.
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* MisBlamed: SEGA received plenty of criticism for the game's shortcomings, even though the game was made by Bioware, [=BioWare=], who ran into a lot of TroubledProduction regarding it.
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* ThatOneBoss: Better hope you grinded to the point of invincibility before the penultimate fight with Ix. If you're not leveled up enough, don't have a good enough character combination, or if the equally annoying battles with Scylla and Charybdis drained your supplies, you're gonna get your ass kicked hard.
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* ThatOneBoss: Better hope you grinded to the point of invincibility before the penultimate fight with Ix. If you're not leveled up enough, don't have a good enough character combination, or if the equally annoying battles with Scylla and Charybdis Charyb drained your supplies, you're gonna get your ass kicked hard.hard.
* ThatOneLevel:
** Chapter 5 is one of the longest chapters in the game and forces the party to split into two groups to handle it. The party with Sonic and Knuckles has to reach Angel Island to deal with the Marauders and fight Ix, while the party with Tails and Eggman needs to continually fight through Metropolis' robots to assist them. Enemies are very tough especially in Metropolis (though Eggman is ATasteOfPower and can carry his team well enough), and you have to choose which teams get the stronger party members like Cream and Big, leaving both unoptimized. This chapter is also the only chance to get Omega, who can be hard to find if you don't know where to look because of how tricky it is to navigate Metropolis.
** Chapter 10 has the same challenges as Chapter 5 because the party has to split up again, but its most infamous point is when it recreates a typical ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' [[DownTheDrain underwater level]] in an RPG. Charyb floods part of Nocturne while Sonic's team is going through it, which drains their PP until it's empty and then drains their HP. Air pockets restore PP, but not HP, so Sonic has to rush through the area and avoid underwater fights (which lock out POW moves and fleeing) to reach Charyb.
* ThatOneLevel:
** Chapter 5 is one of the longest chapters in the game and forces the party to split into two groups to handle it. The party with Sonic and Knuckles has to reach Angel Island to deal with the Marauders and fight Ix, while the party with Tails and Eggman needs to continually fight through Metropolis' robots to assist them. Enemies are very tough especially in Metropolis (though Eggman is ATasteOfPower and can carry his team well enough), and you have to choose which teams get the stronger party members like Cream and Big, leaving both unoptimized. This chapter is also the only chance to get Omega, who can be hard to find if you don't know where to look because of how tricky it is to navigate Metropolis.
** Chapter 10 has the same challenges as Chapter 5 because the party has to split up again, but its most infamous point is when it recreates a typical ''Sonic the Hedgehog'' [[DownTheDrain underwater level]] in an RPG. Charyb floods part of Nocturne while Sonic's team is going through it, which drains their PP until it's empty and then drains their HP. Air pockets restore PP, but not HP, so Sonic has to rush through the area and avoid underwater fights (which lock out POW moves and fleeing) to reach Charyb.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Despite ''Chronicles'' following up on the story of ''VideoGame/SonicBattle'', Emerl (and his Eggman-allied form from ''[[VideoGame/SonicAdvanceTrilogy Advance 3]]'', Gemerl) does not appear. The story only compares the Gizoids with Emerl in a scene.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: The aliens of the Twilight Cage are interesting even if they mostly take traits from standard sci-fi races, as [[NonStandardCharacterDesign their designs are unique for the series]]. Unfortunately, the game starts rushing through the plot during the Twilight Cage section, so they don't get much focus and two of them (the N'rrgal and Zoah) have to share a chapter.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** Despite ''Chronicles'' following up on the story of ''VideoGame/SonicBattle'', Emerl (and his Eggman-allied form from ''[[VideoGame/SonicAdvanceTrilogy Advance 3]]'', Gemerl) does not appear. The story only compares the Gizoids with Emerl in ascene.scene.
** The game takes advantage of both Tails and Eggman being {{Gadgeteer Genius}}es by having them strike up an OddFriendship while having to work together during Chapters 4 and 5. This had a lot of potential (as did Eggman being a permanent party member, just like Bowser in a few ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' [=RPGs=]), but he leaves after the halfway point [[spoiler:so that he can instigate the SequelHook]].
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** Despite ''Chronicles'' following up on the story of ''VideoGame/SonicBattle'', Emerl (and his Eggman-allied form from ''[[VideoGame/SonicAdvanceTrilogy Advance 3]]'', Gemerl) does not appear. The story only compares the Gizoids with Emerl in a
** The game takes advantage of both Tails and Eggman being {{Gadgeteer Genius}}es by having them strike up an OddFriendship while having to work together during Chapters 4 and 5. This had a lot of potential (as did Eggman being a permanent party member, just like Bowser in a few ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' [=RPGs=]), but he leaves after the halfway point [[spoiler:so that he can instigate the SequelHook]].
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* AntiClimaxBoss: The FinalBoss fight - Super Sonic vs. Imperator Ix - comes down to a series of easily pressed Action Commands not unlike the ones you've been using for the entire game. Get enough of them right and you can beat Ix in ''one turn''!
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* AntiClimaxBoss: The FinalBoss fight - fight, Super Sonic vs. Imperator Ix - Ix, comes down to a series of easily pressed Action Commands easy ActionCommands not unlike the ones you've been using for the entire game. Get enough of them right and Even if you can beat Ix mess Super Sonic's attack up (Ix fully heals if he isn't beaten in ''one turn''!one turn with a perfect attack), the battle just gets locked into a stalemate with a low chance of you losing
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* CharacterRerailment: Knuckles in this game has gone back to his stoic, independent portrayal from the ''Adventure'' games as opposed to the hotheaded DumbMuscle he's was portrayed as in the mid-2000s.
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* CharacterRerailment: Knuckles in this game has gone back to his stoic, independent portrayal from the ''Adventure'' games as opposed to the hotheaded DumbMuscle he's he was portrayed as in the mid-2000s.
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* DancingBear: A lot of the hype the game got in development and upon release was purely because it was ''Creator/{{Bioware}}'', best know for ''Franchise/MassEffect'' and ''Franchise/DragonAge'' franchises, making an RPG Sonic game.
* DemonicSpiders: Nearly ''every'' enemy during the second half of the game if you don't grind on the first playthrough. Their ability to take and give damage rises spectacularly.
* DisappointingLastLevel: The first half of the game starts off somewhat decent enough, but then the rest of it gets rather tedious and downright excruciating. You're still learning everything, the game chucks a bunch of high defense or high-dodge enemies you can't kill by melee attacking at you, [[spoiler:Eggman]] only helps one team at once, etc.
* DemonicSpiders: Nearly ''every'' enemy during the second half of the game if you don't grind on the first playthrough. Their ability to take and give damage rises spectacularly.
* DisappointingLastLevel: The first half of the game starts off somewhat decent enough, but then the rest of it gets rather tedious and downright excruciating. You're still learning everything, the game chucks a bunch of high defense or high-dodge enemies you can't kill by melee attacking at you, [[spoiler:Eggman]] only helps one team at once, etc.
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* DancingBear: A lot of the hype the game got in development and upon release was purely because it was ''Creator/{{Bioware}}'', best know known for ''Franchise/MassEffect'' and ''Franchise/DragonAge'' franchises, making an RPG Sonic ''Sonic'' game.
*DemonicSpiders: Nearly ''every'' enemy during the second half of the game if you don't grind on the first playthrough. Their ability DemonicSpiders:
** The Kron can be a major pain totake and give bring down, since they're particularly resilient to damage rises spectacularly.
unless you have certain POW Moves that can pierce their defense or hit their elemental weakness. Considering how finicky the commands for POW Moves can be, their fights can take quite a while.
** The N'rrgal. Their leech attack doesn't damage you that much (especially if your team is leveled up enough), but they can steal health from one of your party members if it connects. No matter how much they actually end up damaging you, they can fully heal themselves and stunt your luck, meaning that all the damage you did to them could potentially be undone in an instant if they succeed in attacking you. Even worse, it's their default basic attack.
* DisappointingLastLevel:The first half of After a standard opening and a difficult middle portion in Metropolis, the end-game in the Twilight Cage is underwhelming due to the game's rushed development cycle. Chapters 7 through 9 are short without much side content, with the game starts off somewhat decent enough, rushing to introduce all of the alien races as fast as it can. Chapter 10 is more climactic, but then the rest of it gets rather tedious also marks a big DifficultySpike and downright excruciating. You're still learning everything, the game chucks leads into a bunch of high defense or high-dodge enemies you can't kill by melee attacking at you, [[spoiler:Eggman]] only helps one team at once, etc.sudden ending that is unlikely to get followed up on.
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** The Kron can be a major pain to
** The N'rrgal. Their leech attack doesn't damage you that much (especially if your team is leveled up enough), but they can steal health from one of your party members if it connects. No matter how much they actually end up damaging you, they can fully heal themselves and stunt your luck, meaning that all the damage you did to them could potentially be undone in an instant if they succeed in attacking you. Even worse, it's their default basic attack.
* DisappointingLastLevel:
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** Cream is by far the best healer in the game, especially if you give her the Chao that allows all of her special techniques to work without fail. Level her up enough, and Cream's POW restoring move recovers more for the entire party than it costs her to cast it, allowing you to spam everyone else's strongest techniques without fear of running out of POW.
** Knuckles + [[spoiler:Shade]] makes for a ridiculously strong team. A few perfectly executed Echidna Rushes is usually enough to take out almost anything.
** Shadow has an attack that has a 50% chance of completely [=KOing=] an enemy. Equip him with a Unique chao that can give you a chance for an instant KO, and use his bonus level up points on his luck stat, and you have a force to be reckoned with.
** The "Immortal Big" set up, especially against bosses. There is a rare Chao that forces enemies to attack its user. Combine with Taunt and Feel No Pain, and watch that boss be forced to attack something it can barely hit, and only scratches even when they do connect. Combine with Cream's POW restoring abilities, and most bosses are reduced to a joke.
** Omega's cannon can do 200+ damage per hit: the FinalBoss has 800 hp in his normal mode.
* HilariousInHindsight: One of Tails's most often used and helpful healing skills? The [[LetsPlay/SonicTheHedgehog2006 Medibot]].
** Knuckles + [[spoiler:Shade]] makes for a ridiculously strong team. A few perfectly executed Echidna Rushes is usually enough to take out almost anything.
** Shadow has an attack that has a 50% chance of completely [=KOing=] an enemy. Equip him with a Unique chao that can give you a chance for an instant KO, and use his bonus level up points on his luck stat, and you have a force to be reckoned with.
** The "Immortal Big" set up, especially against bosses. There is a rare Chao that forces enemies to attack its user. Combine with Taunt and Feel No Pain, and watch that boss be forced to attack something it can barely hit, and only scratches even when they do connect. Combine with Cream's POW restoring abilities, and most bosses are reduced to a joke.
** Omega's cannon can do 200+ damage per hit: the FinalBoss has 800 hp in his normal mode.
* HilariousInHindsight: One of Tails's most often used and helpful healing skills? The [[LetsPlay/SonicTheHedgehog2006 Medibot]].
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** Cream is by far the best healer in the game, especially if you give her the Chao that allows all of her special techniques to work without fail. Level her up enough, and Cream's POW restoring PP-restoring move recovers more for the entire party than it costs her to cast it, allowing you to spam everyone else's strongest techniques without fear of running out of POW.
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** Knuckles + [[spoiler:Shade]] makes for a ridiculously strong team. A few perfectly executed Echidna Rushesis are usually enough to take out almost anything.
** Shadow has an attack that has a 50% chance of completely [=KOing=] an enemy. Equip him with aUnique chao unique Chao that can give you a chance for an instant KO, and use his bonus level up points on his luck stat, and you have a force to be reckoned with.
** The "Immortal Big" set up, especially against bosses. There is a rare Chao that forces enemies to attack its user. Combine with Taunt and Feel No Pain, andwatch that boss bosses will be forced to attack something that it can barely hit, and only scratches even when they do connect. rarely hit or deal notable damage to. Combine with Cream's POW restoring PP-restoring abilities, and most bosses are reduced to a joke.
** Omega's cannon can do 200+ damage per hit: the FinalBoss has 800hp HP in his normal mode.
* HilariousInHindsight: One of Tails's most often used and helpful healingskills? The skills is the [[LetsPlay/SonicTheHedgehog2006 Medibot]].
** Knuckles + [[spoiler:Shade]] makes for a ridiculously strong team. A few perfectly executed Echidna Rushes
** Shadow has an attack that has a 50% chance of completely [=KOing=] an enemy. Equip him with a
** The "Immortal Big" set up, especially against bosses. There is a rare Chao that forces enemies to attack its user. Combine with Taunt and Feel No Pain, and
** Omega's cannon can do 200+ damage per hit: the FinalBoss has 800
* HilariousInHindsight: One of Tails's most often used and helpful healing
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** [=QUALITY BIOWARE SOUNDTRACK=]The game's generally poor/weird soundtrack (which is the subject of many [[PopCultureUrbanLegends urban legends]] over how it ended up that was) became a meme over time, with the theme for [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o47N-aYd08 Central City]] (a high-pitched and dinky remix of Diamond Dust Zone from ''VideoGame/Sonic3DBlast'') being the most notorious.
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* MisBlamed: A lot of people felt it was SoOkayItsAverage and said "SEGA really shouldn't make an RPG again". Actually, this was ''Bioware''.
* OvershadowedByControversy: If the development issues with Sonic Chronicles (such as inexperience in working on the Nintendo DS, appointing less workers than usual, having less development time than usual due to the impending buyout by Electronic Arts, losing Mark Darrah, and legal issues with the soundtrack) and subsequent failure to sell more than one million copies didn't cause the death of the series then ''Ken Penders did''.
* OvershadowedByControversy: If the development issues with Sonic Chronicles (such as inexperience in working on the Nintendo DS, appointing less workers than usual, having less development time than usual due to the impending buyout by Electronic Arts, losing Mark Darrah, and legal issues with the soundtrack) and subsequent failure to sell more than one million copies didn't cause the death of the series then ''Ken Penders did''.
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* MisBlamed: A SEGA received plenty of criticism for the game's shortcomings, even though the game was made by Bioware, who ran into a lot of people felt it was SoOkayItsAverage and said "SEGA really shouldn't make an RPG again". Actually, this was ''Bioware''.
TroubledProduction regarding it.
* OvershadowedByControversy:If Ken Penders, a writer for the development issues with Sonic Chronicles (such as inexperience in working on original ''Sonic the Nintendo DS, appointing less workers than usual, having less development time than usual Hedgehog'' [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics comic series]], filed a lawsuit due to the impending buyout by Electronic Arts, losing Mark Darrah, and legal issues game's usage of many elements from the comics [[SerialNumbersFiledOff in slightly altered forms]]. Given Penders' general infamy with the soundtrack) and subsequent failure to sell ''Sonic'' fans, this lawsuit is more well-known than one million copies didn't cause the death of the series then ''Ken Penders did''.game itself.
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** How you execute the POW moves, which require EBA-style rhythm minigames. Sometimes it's OK, most of the time it's bad and other times it's ''horribly unfair''. Doesn't help on how nice some of the POW moves' effects can be - because if you mess up even a ''little'' bit, oops, you just wasted a turn and a nice ton of PP! It certainly doesn't help that this is the ONLY way you can counter enemy's attacks and execute your own. And what if you don't have a stylus or a very good touch screen?
** The defense of most enemies. It can be ridiculously hard to hit them at the best of times, but then most of them will go on defense, making it either impossible to hit them or you can only knock off one point of damage at a time.
** Any time an enemy flashes "Evasive" Be prepared to spend an entire round watching your character fall flat on their faces turn after turn after turn...
** The "chase fleeing enemies" minigame wastes a lot of time at the beginning of the battle, and there's no option to just let them flee -- other than deliberately failing, which ''still'' wastes a lot of time.
** The defense of most enemies. It can be ridiculously hard to hit them at the best of times, but then most of them will go on defense, making it either impossible to hit them or you can only knock off one point of damage at a time.
** Any time an enemy flashes "Evasive" Be prepared to spend an entire round watching your character fall flat on their faces turn after turn after turn...
** The "chase fleeing enemies" minigame wastes a lot of time at the beginning of the battle, and there's no option to just let them flee -- other than deliberately failing, which ''still'' wastes a lot of time.
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** How you execute Executing POW moves and defending against attacks requires completing ''VideoGame/EliteBeatAgents''-style commands with the POW moves, which require EBA-style rhythm minigames. Sometimes it's OK, most of touch screen. Depending on the time it's bad move, the prompts range from manageable to extremely tricky, and other times it's ''horribly unfair''. Doesn't help on how nice some of the POW moves' effects can be - because if you mess for some, messing up even a ''little'' bit, oops, you just wasted a turn little bit causes the move to whiff and waste HP. Likewise, many enemies can easily wipe out a nice ton of PP! It certainly doesn't help that this is party member if the ONLY way you can counter enemy's attacks and execute your own. And what if you don't have defense prompt is failed. They're especially bad for players without a good stylus or a very good touch screen?
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**The defense of most enemies. It Certain enemies can be ridiculously hard randomly choose to hit them at the best of times, but then most of them will go on defense, defensive or evasive for a turn, making it either impossible to hit them or you can only knock off one point of damage at a time.
** Any time an enemy flashes "Evasive" Be prepared to spend an entire round watching your character fall flat on their faces turn after turn after turn...
making all attacks deal ScratchDamage.
** The "chase fleeing enemies" minigame wastes a lot of time at the beginning of the battle, and there's no option to just let them flee-- other than deliberately failing, which ''still'' still wastes a lot of time.
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** Any time an enemy flashes "Evasive" Be prepared to spend an entire round watching your character fall flat on their faces turn after turn after turn...
** The "chase fleeing enemies" minigame wastes a lot of time at the beginning of the battle, and there's no option to just let them flee
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* ThatOneBoss:
** Better hope you grinded to the point of invincibility before the penultimate fight with Ix. If you're not leveled up enough, don't have a good enough character combination, or if the equally annoying battle with Scylla and Charybdis drained your supplies, you're gonna get your ass kicked ''hard''.
** The Kron enemies can be a major pain to bring down, since they're particularly resilient to damage unless you have certain POW Moves that can do the trick. But, considering the above mentioned stylus controls, expect these fights to take quite a while.
** The N'rrgal are arguably the worst enemies to fight against in the entire game. Their leech attack don't even damage you that much (especially if your team is leveled up enough), but they can steal health from one of your party members if it connects. No matter how much they actually end up damaging you, they can fully heal themselves and stunt your luck. Meaning that all the damage you did to them could potentially be undone in an instant if they succeed in attacking you. Even worse, it's their default basic attack.
* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Ken Penders played this card ''hard'' on Bioware and Archie for using expies of several Archie Sonic characters, further destroying his reputation and putting the planned sequel in prolonged DevelopmentHell. For the record, Archie Sonic fans themselves ''invert'' this trope, loving the fact that ''Chronicles'' is the closest thing to canonizing beloved characters from the comic.
** Better hope you grinded to the point of invincibility before the penultimate fight with Ix. If you're not leveled up enough, don't have a good enough character combination, or if the equally annoying battle with Scylla and Charybdis drained your supplies, you're gonna get your ass kicked ''hard''.
** The Kron enemies can be a major pain to bring down, since they're particularly resilient to damage unless you have certain POW Moves that can do the trick. But, considering the above mentioned stylus controls, expect these fights to take quite a while.
** The N'rrgal are arguably the worst enemies to fight against in the entire game. Their leech attack don't even damage you that much (especially if your team is leveled up enough), but they can steal health from one of your party members if it connects. No matter how much they actually end up damaging you, they can fully heal themselves and stunt your luck. Meaning that all the damage you did to them could potentially be undone in an instant if they succeed in attacking you. Even worse, it's their default basic attack.
* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: Ken Penders played this card ''hard'' on Bioware and Archie for using expies of several Archie Sonic characters, further destroying his reputation and putting the planned sequel in prolonged DevelopmentHell. For the record, Archie Sonic fans themselves ''invert'' this trope, loving the fact that ''Chronicles'' is the closest thing to canonizing beloved characters from the comic.
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* ThatOneBoss:
**ThatOneBoss: Better hope you grinded to the point of invincibility before the penultimate fight with Ix. If you're not leveled up enough, don't have a good enough character combination, or if the equally annoying battle battles with Scylla and Charybdis drained your supplies, you're gonna get your ass kicked ''hard''.
** The Kron enemies can be a major pain to bring down, since they're particularly resilient to damage unless you have certain POW Moves that can do the trick. But, considering the above mentioned stylus controls, expect these fights to take quite a while.
** The N'rrgal are arguably the worst enemies to fight against in the entire game. Their leech attack don't even damage you that much (especially if your team is leveled up enough), but they can steal health from one of your party members if it connects. No matter how much they actually end up damaging you, they can fully heal themselves and stunt your luck. Meaning that all the damage you did to them could potentially be undone in an instant if they succeed in attacking you. Even worse, it's their default basic attack.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks:Ken Penders played this card ''hard'' on Bioware and While ''Sonic Chronicles'' stays within the main series' story, much of its plot is heavily inspired by the [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics Archie for using expies of several Archie Sonic characters, further destroying his reputation and putting Comics continuity]], especially with regards to the planned sequel in prolonged DevelopmentHell. For the record, Archie Sonic echidnas. While some fans themselves ''invert'' this trope, loving love the fact that ''Chronicles'' is the closest thing to canonizing beloved characters from the comic.comic, others find it uninspired or unfitting with the main series.
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** The Kron enemies can be a major pain to bring down, since they're particularly resilient to damage unless you have certain POW Moves that can do the trick. But, considering the above mentioned stylus controls, expect these fights to take quite a while.
** The N'rrgal are arguably the worst enemies to fight against in the entire game. Their leech attack don't even damage you that much (especially if your team is leveled up enough), but they can steal health from one of your party members if it connects. No matter how much they actually end up damaging you, they can fully heal themselves and stunt your luck. Meaning that all the damage you did to them could potentially be undone in an instant if they succeed in attacking you. Even worse, it's their default basic attack.
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** [[spoiler:Shade]] defects from Ix's service after learning he wants to conquer Earth. Except the Nocturnus were conquerers before they were sealed in the Twilight Cage, and they conquered everyone ''within'' the Cage, so it's a wonder how the aspiration to keep conquering would be so much a shock.
** In hindsight: '''[[UpToEleven everyone]]''' [[spoiler:for leaving [[IdiotBall Eggman unattended outside of the Twilight Cage]], which sets up the {{Cliffhanger}}]].
** In hindsight: '''[[UpToEleven everyone]]''' [[spoiler:for leaving [[IdiotBall Eggman unattended outside of the Twilight Cage]], which sets up the {{Cliffhanger}}]].
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** [[spoiler:Shade]] defects from Ix's service after learning he wants to conquer Earth. Except the Nocturnus were conquerers conquerors before they were sealed in the Twilight Cage, and they conquered everyone ''within'' within the Cage, so it's a wonder how the aspiration to keep conquering would be so much a shock.
** In hindsight:'''[[UpToEleven everyone]]''' everyone [[spoiler:for leaving [[IdiotBall Eggman unattended outside of the Twilight Cage]], which sets up the {{Cliffhanger}}]].
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Some have considered ''Chronicles''' portrayal of certain characters as [[TookALevelInJerkass more mean-spirited]], as seen with available dialogue options ([[NiceGuy Sonic]] in particular has the option to [[KickTheDog outright throw insults]] at characters like Knuckles or Amy). As a result, some people tend to be put off by the rest of the plot as a result.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Some have considered ''Chronicles''' portrayal of certain characters as [[TookALevelInJerkass more mean-spirited]], as seen with available dialogue options ([[NiceGuy Sonic]] in particular has the option to [[KickTheDog outright throw insults]] at characters like Knuckles or Amy). As a result, Thus, some people tend to be put off by the rest of the plot as a result.
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Yes, really. This page overall tends to ignore some of the more negative opinions towards this game, this being one in particular.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Some have considered ''Chronicles''' portrayal of certain characters as [[TookALevelInJerkass more mean-spirited]], as seen with available dialogue options ([[NiceGuy Sonic]] in particular has the option to [[KickTheDog outright throw insults]] at characters like Knuckles or Amy). As a result, some people tend to be put off by the rest of the plot as a result.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Although a major character in this game, [[spoiler:Shade]] has become this for the overall franchise primarily due to her design, role in the story and [[spoiler: the fact she's another named Echidna character.]] Even some who didn't like this game wish she could appear in a future game in some form.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Although a major character in this game, [[spoiler:Shade]] has become this for the overall franchise primarily due to her design and [[spoiler: being another named Echidna character.]] Even some who didn't like this game wish she could appear in a future game in some form.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Although a major character in this game, [[spoiler:Shade]] has become this for the overall franchise primarily due to her design design, role in the story and [[spoiler: being the fact she's another named Echidna character.]] Even some who didn't like this game wish she could appear in a future game in some form.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Although a major character in this game, [[spoiler:Shade]] has become this for the overall franchise primarily due to her design and [[spoiler: being another named Echidna character.]] Even some who didn't like this game wish she could appear in a future game in some form.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: If the development issues with Sonic Chronicles (such as inexperience in working on the Nintendo DS, appointing less workers than usual, having less development time than usual due to the impending buyout by Electronic Arts, losing Mark Darrah, and legal issues with the soundtrack) and failure to sell more than one million copies didn't cause the death of the series then ''Ken Penders did''.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: If the development issues with Sonic Chronicles (such as inexperience in working on the Nintendo DS, appointing less workers than usual, having less development time than usual due to the impending buyout by Electronic Arts, losing Mark Darrah, and legal issues with the soundtrack) and subsequent failure to sell more than one million copies didn't cause the death of the series then ''Ken Penders did''.
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* OvershadowedByControversey: If the development issues with Sonic Chronicles (such as inexperience in working on the Nintendo DS, appointing less workers than usual, having less development time than usual due to the impending buyout by Electronic Arts, losing Mark Darrah, and legal issues with the soundtrack) and failure to sell more than one million copies didn't cause the death of the series then ''Ken Penders did''.
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* OvershadowedByControversey: OvershadowedByControversy: If the development issues with Sonic Chronicles (such as inexperience in working on the Nintendo DS, appointing less workers than usual, having less development time than usual due to the impending buyout by Electronic Arts, losing Mark Darrah, and legal issues with the soundtrack) and failure to sell more than one million copies didn't cause the death of the series then ''Ken Penders did''.
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* OvershadowedByControversey: If the development issues with Sonic Chronicles (such as inexperience in working on the Nintendo DS, appointing less workers than usual, having less development time than usual due to the impending buyout by Electronic Arts, losing Mark Darrah, and legal issues with the soundtrack) and failure to sell more than one million copies didn't cause the death of the series then ''Ken Penders did''.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Despite ''Chronicles'' following up on the story of ''Videogame/SonicBattle'', Emerl (or, as he is known now, Gemerl from ''Advanced 3'') does not appear or is mentioned. The story only compares the Gizoids with Emerl in a scene.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Despite ''Chronicles'' following up on the story of ''Videogame/SonicBattle'', ''VideoGame/SonicBattle'', Emerl (or, as he is known now, Gemerl (and his Eggman-allied form from ''Advanced 3'') ''[[VideoGame/SonicAdvanceTrilogy Advance 3]]'', Gemerl) does not appear or is mentioned.appear. The story only compares the Gizoids with Emerl in a scene.
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** In hindsight: '''[[UpToEleven everyone]]''' [[spoiler: for leaving [[IdiotBall Eggman unattended outside of the Twilight Cage]], which sets up the {{Cliffhanger}}]].
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** In hindsight: '''[[UpToEleven everyone]]''' [[spoiler: for [[spoiler:for leaving [[IdiotBall Eggman unattended outside of the Twilight Cage]], which sets up the {{Cliffhanger}}]].
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** [[spoiler:Shade]] defects from Ix's service after learning he wants to conquer Earth. Except the Nocturnus were conquerers before they were sealed in the Twilight Cage, and they conquered everyone ''within'' the Cage, so it's a wonder how the aspiration to keep conquering would be so much a shock.
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* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler:Shade]] defects from Ix's service after learning he wants to conquer Earth. Except the Nocturnus were conquerers before they were sealed in the Twilight Cage, and they conquered everyone ''within'' the Cage, so it's a wonder how the aspiration to keep conquering would be so much a shock.
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* WhatAnIdiot: [[spoiler:Shade]] TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Despite ''Chronicles'' following up on the story of ''Videogame/SonicBattle'', Emerl (or, as he is known now, Gemerl from ''Advanced 3'') does not appear or is mentioned. The story only compares the Gizoids with Emerl in a scene.
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**[[spoiler:Shade]] defects from Ix's service after learning he wants to conquer Earth. Except the Nocturnus were conquerers before they were sealed in the Twilight Cage, and they conquered everyone ''within'' the Cage, so it's a wonder how the aspiration to keep conquering would be so much a shock.
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**[[spoiler:Shade]] defects from Ix's service after learning he wants to conquer Earth. Except the Nocturnus were conquerers before they were sealed in the Twilight Cage, and they conquered everyone ''within'' the Cage, so it's a wonder how the aspiration to keep conquering would be so much a shock.
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* AntiClimaxBoss: The FinalBoss fight - Super Sonic vs. Imperator Ix - comes down to a series of easily pressed Action Commands not unlike the ones you've been using for the entire game. Get enough of them right and you can beat Ix in ''one turn''!
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It cannot take place after Sonic X. At best, is just a Mythology Gag.
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* {{Fanon}}: That the potted plant visible in Tails' workshop is [[spoiler:Cosmo's seed]], meaning that the game takes place after the events of ''Anime/SonicX''. Even the Sonic wiki acknowledged this possibility.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The game's mostly remembered for the lawsuit that occurred over former Archie Comics writer Ken Penders suing Bioware and Archie over perceived similarities to characters he created for the comics, eventually resulting in all of said characters being ExiledFromContinuity and forcing a reboot for the [[ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog comic series]] before it eventually got cancelled and would also result in SEGA themselves forcing increased mandates on all following media.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The game's mostly remembered for the lawsuit that occurred over former Archie Comics writer Ken Penders suing Bioware and Archie over perceived similarities to characters he created for the comics, eventually resulting in all of said characters being ExiledFromContinuity and forcing a reboot for the comic series before it eventually got cancelled, and would also result in SEGA themselves forcing increased mandates on all following media.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The game's mostly remembered for the lawsuit that occurred over former Archie Comics writer Ken Penders suing Bioware and Archie over perceived similarities to characters he created for the comics, eventually resulting in all of said characters being ExiledFromContinuity and forcing a reboot for the [[ComicBook/ArchieComicsSonicTheHedgehog comic series series]] before it eventually got cancelled, cancelled and would also result in SEGA themselves forcing increased mandates on all following media.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The game's mostly remembered for the lawsuit that occurred over former Archie Comics writer Ken Penders suing Bioware and Archie over perceived similarities to characters he created for the comics, eventually resulting in all of said characters being ExiledFromContinuity and forcing a reboot for the comic series before it eventually got cancelled.
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The game's mostly remembered for the lawsuit that occurred over former Archie Comics writer Ken Penders suing Bioware and Archie over perceived similarities to characters he created for the comics, eventually resulting in all of said characters being ExiledFromContinuity and forcing a reboot for the comic series before it eventually got cancelled.cancelled, and would also result in SEGA themselves forcing increased mandates on all following media.
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** Omega, his cannon can do 200+ damage a hit (the last boss has 800 hp in his normal mode)
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** OlderThanTheyThink: Even if it was Sega, it wouldn't have been [[VideoGame/PhantasyStar their]] [[Franchise/ShiningSeries first]] [[VideoGame/SkiesOfArcadia rodeo.]]
* ScrappyMechanic: How you execute the POW moves, which require EBA-style rhythm minigames. Sometimes it's OK, most of the time it's bad and other times it's ''horribly unfair''. Doesn't help on how nice some of the POW moves' effects can be - because if you mess up even a ''little'' bit, oops, you just wasted a turn and a nice ton of PP! It certainly doesn't help that this is the ONLY way you can counter enemy's attacks and execute your own. And what if you don't have a stylus or a very good touch screen?
* ScrappyMechanic: How you execute the POW moves, which require EBA-style rhythm minigames. Sometimes it's OK, most of the time it's bad and other times it's ''horribly unfair''. Doesn't help on how nice some of the POW moves' effects can be - because if you mess up even a ''little'' bit, oops, you just wasted a turn and a nice ton of PP! It certainly doesn't help that this is the ONLY way you can counter enemy's attacks and execute your own. And what if you don't have a stylus or a very good touch screen?
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* OvershadowedByControversy: The game's mostly remembered for the lawsuit that occurred over former Archie Comics writer Ken Penders suing Bioware and Archie over perceived similarities to characters he created for the comics, eventually resulting in all of said characters being ExiledFromContinuity and forcing a reboot for the comic series before it eventually got cancelled.
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**OlderThanTheyThink: Even if it was Sega, it wouldn't have been [[VideoGame/PhantasyStar their]] [[Franchise/ShiningSeries first]] [[VideoGame/SkiesOfArcadia rodeo.]]
* ScrappyMechanic:How you execute the POW moves, which require EBA-style rhythm minigames. Sometimes it's OK, most of the time it's bad and other times it's ''horribly unfair''. Doesn't help on how nice some of the POW moves' effects can be - because if you mess up even a ''little'' bit, oops, you just wasted a turn and a nice ton of PP! It certainly doesn't help that this is the ONLY way you can counter enemy's attacks and execute your own. And what if you don't have a stylus or a very good touch screen?
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* ThatOneBoss: Better hope you grinded to the point of invincibility before the penultimate fight with Ix. If you're not leveled up enough, don't have a good enough character combination, or if the equally annoying battle with Scylla and Charybdis drained your supplies, you're gonna get your ass kicked ''hard''.
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** Better hope you grinded to the point of invincibility before the penultimate fight with Ix. If you're not leveled up enough, don't have a good enough character combination, or if the equally annoying battle with Scylla and Charybdis drained your supplies, you're gonna get your ass kicked ''hard''.
** Better hope you grinded to the point of invincibility before the penultimate fight with Ix. If you're not leveled up enough, don't have a good enough character combination, or if the equally annoying battle with Scylla and Charybdis drained your supplies, you're gonna get your ass kicked ''hard''.
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* AngstWhatAngst: Subverted. At first it seems that none of Sonic's pals seem too annoyed about him just abandoning them all at the drop of a hat to run off on adventures once Eggman is beaten. But through some dialogue options later, it becomes pretty clear that there's plenty of resentment bubbling just underneath the surface. Knuckles finally flat out says it after the party rescues him, while Tails and Amy are too polite to say anything and try (poorly) to pass off the question.
-->'''Knuckles''': You're not the boss anymore, Sonic.
-->'''Sonic''': (In disbelief) Do the rest of you think this?
-->'''Tails''': ...You were gone a long time, Sonic...
-->'''Knuckles''': You're not the boss anymore, Sonic.
-->'''Sonic''': (In disbelief) Do the rest of you think this?
-->'''Tails''': ...You were gone a long time, Sonic...
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* {{Fanon}}: That the potted plant visible in Tails' workshop is [[spoiler:Cosmo's seed]], meaning that the game takes place after the events of ''Anime/SonicX''. Even the Sonic wiki acknowledged this possibility.
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** The N'rrgal are arguably the worst enemies to fight against in the entire game. They don't even damage you that much with their attacks, but they can steal health from one of your party members. No matter how much they end up damaging you, they can fully heal themselves and stunt your luck. Meaning that all the damage you did to them could potentially be undone in an instant if they succeed in attacking you. Even worse, it's their standard attack.
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** The N'rrgal are arguably the worst enemies to fight against in the entire game. They Their leech attack don't even damage you that much with their attacks, (especially if your team is leveled up enough), but they can steal health from one of your party members. members if it connects. No matter how much they actually end up damaging you, they can fully heal themselves and stunt your luck. Meaning that all the damage you did to them could potentially be undone in an instant if they succeed in attacking you. Even worse, it's their standard default basic attack.
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** The Kron enemies can be a major pain to bring down, since they're particularly resilient to damage unless you have certain POW Moves that can do the trick. But, considering the above mentioned stylus controls, expect these fights to take quite a while.
** The N'rrgal are arguably the worst enemies to fight against in the entire game. They don't even damage you that much with their attacks, but they can steal health from one of your party members. No matter how much they end up damaging you, they can fully heal themselves and stunt your luck. Meaning that all the damage you did to them could potentially be undone in an instant if they succeed in attacking you. Even worse, it's their standard attack.
** The N'rrgal are arguably the worst enemies to fight against in the entire game. They don't even damage you that much with their attacks, but they can steal health from one of your party members. No matter how much they end up damaging you, they can fully heal themselves and stunt your luck. Meaning that all the damage you did to them could potentially be undone in an instant if they succeed in attacking you. Even worse, it's their standard attack.
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* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: General consensus is that the game has some of the best dialogue and story elements of a ''Sonic'' title in years due to Bioware's characterization, but its gameplay, particularly the battle system and world, leave a lot to be desired.
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* EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame: General consensus is that the game has some of the best dialogue and story elements of a ''Sonic'' title in years due to Bioware's characterization, but its gameplay, particularly the battle system and world, overworlds, leave a lot to be desired.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: E-123 Omega wants to [[http://d-author.tumblr.com/post/153271826717/this-whole-dialogue-is-a-gift destroy]] [[https://hunnidpisanenchilada.tumblr.com/post/146826694186/aww-shadow-cares-about-omega Eggman]] but Tails states that Eggman is an ally and Omega only backed down on his closest friends, Shadow and Rouge's behalf. Then ''VideoGame/SonicForces'' has Shadow allying himself with Eggman to spread panic and disorder throughout the world.
--> '''E-123 Omega''': "ORANGE FOREST CREATURE GONE MAD. RECOMMEND IMMEDIATE DESTRUCTION."
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--> '''E-123 Omega''': "ORANGE FOREST CREATURE GONE MAD. RECOMMEND IMMEDIATE DESTRUCTION."
** [[spoiler:Averted, since that Shadow was actually an illusion created by the Phantom Ruby.]]
