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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome:
** Your fight with [[spoiler:the fire Titan]] in the finale of the original game. It may be because you're [[spoiler: fighting a [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] [[PlayingWithFire fire]] [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever Titan]], or it may be because you're using [[ArmorOfInvincibility the old Titan Lord's armor]], which is absolutely badass]], but either way, it's awesome. [[BossDissonance The fight]] [[AntiClimaxBoss proper]], on the other hand...
** In Risen 2, the sequence leading up to and subsequent fight between Crowe's Earth Titan when you unlock the Titan Harpoon at the end of Act 1. Marching to the ruins with your chosen faction, destroying anything that gets in your way, then annihilating the other factions forces in a big showdown before the boss fight proper starts is an extremely satisfying payoff for the 10 or so hours spent convincing the faction to help you.
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Your [[DeadpanSnarker conversation]] with Erikson while tracking down Steelbeard's treasure chests.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome:
** Your fight with [[spoiler:the fire Titan]] in the finale of the original game. It may be because you're [[spoiler: fighting a [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] [[PlayingWithFire fire]] [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever Titan]], or it may be because you're using [[ArmorOfInvincibility the old Titan Lord's armor]], which is absolutely badass]], but either way, it's awesome. [[BossDissonance The fight]] [[AntiClimaxBoss proper]], on the other hand...
** In Risen 2, the sequence leading up to and subsequent fight between Crowe's Earth Titan when you unlock the Titan Harpoon at the end of Act 1. Marching to the ruins with your chosen faction, destroying anything that gets in your way, then annihilating the other factions forces in a big showdown before the boss fight proper starts is an extremely satisfying payoff for the 10 or so hours spent convincing the faction to help you.
* CrowningMomentOfFunny:
SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: Your [[DeadpanSnarker conversation]] with Erikson while tracking down Steelbeard's treasure chests.


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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome:
** Your fight with [[spoiler:the fire Titan]] in the finale of the original game. It may be because you're [[spoiler: fighting a [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] [[PlayingWithFire fire]] [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever Titan]], or it may be because you're using [[ArmorOfInvincibility the old Titan Lord's armor]], which is absolutely badass]], but either way, it's awesome. [[BossDissonance The fight]] [[AntiClimaxBoss proper]], on the other hand...
** In Risen 2, the sequence leading up to and subsequent fight between Crowe's Earth Titan when you unlock the Titan Harpoon at the end of Act 1. Marching to the ruins with your chosen faction, destroying anything that gets in your way, then annihilating the other factions forces in a big showdown before the boss fight proper starts is an extremely satisfying payoff for the 10 or so hours spent convincing the faction to help you.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Your fight with [[spoiler:the fire Titan]] in the finale of the original game. It may be because you're [[spoiler: fighting a [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] [[PlayingWithFire fire]] [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever Titan]], or it may be because you're using [[ArmorOfInvincibility the old Titan Lord's armor]], which is absolutely badass]], but either way, it's awesome. [[BossDissonance The fight]] [[AntiClimaxBoss proper]], on the other hand...

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: CrowningMomentOfAwesome:
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Your fight with [[spoiler:the fire Titan]] in the finale of the original game. It may be because you're [[spoiler: fighting a [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] [[PlayingWithFire fire]] [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever Titan]], or it may be because you're using [[ArmorOfInvincibility the old Titan Lord's armor]], which is absolutely badass]], but either way, it's awesome. [[BossDissonance The fight]] [[AntiClimaxBoss proper]], on the other hand...
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Has only one example (X Meets Y) which is Just For Fun and should not be listed on YMMV pages.


* JustForFun/XMeetsY: ''Series/{{CSI}}'' meets the Bible - [[HalfwayPlotSwitch for the first half, anyway]].

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* JustForFun/XMeetsY: ''Series/{{CSI}}'' meets the Bible - [[HalfwayPlotSwitch for the first half, anyway]].----
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* HilariousInHindsight: Cliff Curtis played the father of Keisha Castle-Hughes's character in ''Film/WhaleRider''. Castle-Hughes later played Mary the mother of Jesus in ''Film/TheNativityStory''.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Cliff Curtis played the father of Keisha Castle-Hughes's character in ''Film/WhaleRider''. Castle-Hughes later played Mary the mother of Jesus in ''Film/TheNativityStory''.''Film/TheNativityStory''.
* JustForFun/XMeetsY: ''Series/{{CSI}}'' meets the Bible - [[HalfwayPlotSwitch for the first half, anyway]].
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Your fight with [[spoiler:the fire Titan]] in the finale of the original game. It may be because you're [[spoiler: fighting a [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] [[PlayingWithFire fire]] [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever Titan]], or it may be because you're using [[ArmorOfInvincibility the old Titan Lord's armor]], which is absolutely BadAss]], but either way, it's awesome. [[BossDissonance The fight]] [[AntiClimaxBoss proper]], on the other hand...

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Your fight with [[spoiler:the fire Titan]] in the finale of the original game. It may be because you're [[spoiler: fighting a [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] [[PlayingWithFire fire]] [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever Titan]], or it may be because you're using [[ArmorOfInvincibility the old Titan Lord's armor]], which is absolutely BadAss]], badass]], but either way, it's awesome. [[BossDissonance The fight]] [[AntiClimaxBoss proper]], on the other hand...
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* WinBackTheCrowd: Though still a BaseBreaker, Risen 3 has been considered a ''huge'' improvement over Risen 2, mainly due to the re-addition of magic and just having that ''VideoGame/{{Gothic}}'' feeling many felt Risen 2 lacked.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: Though still a BaseBreaker, divisive, Risen 3 has been considered a ''huge'' improvement over Risen 2, mainly due to the re-addition of magic and just having that ''VideoGame/{{Gothic}}'' feeling many felt Risen 2 lacked.
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* GoodBadBugs: Due to the way the game is programmed, [=NPCs=] can kill a defeated enemy while yelling "You die!", and moments later claim that they'll find the one responsible for the murder.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: Though still a BaseBreaker, Risen 3 has been considered a ''huge'' improvement over Risen 2, mainly due to the re-addition of magic and just having that ''VideoGame/Gothic'' feeling many felt Risen 2 lacked.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: Though still a BaseBreaker, Risen 3 has been considered a ''huge'' improvement over Risen 2, mainly due to the re-addition of magic and just having that ''VideoGame/Gothic'' ''VideoGame/{{Gothic}}'' feeling many felt Risen 2 lacked.
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** In Risen 2, the sequence leading up to and subsequent fight between Crowe's Earth Titan when you unlock the Titan Harpoon at the end of Act 1. Marching to the ruins with you're chosen faction, destroying anything that gets in your way, then annihilating the other faction in a big showdown before the boss fight proper starts is an extremely satisfying payoff for the 10 or so hours spent convincing the faction to help you.

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** In Risen 2, the sequence leading up to and subsequent fight between Crowe's Earth Titan when you unlock the Titan Harpoon at the end of Act 1. Marching to the ruins with you're your chosen faction, destroying anything that gets in your way, then annihilating the other faction factions forces in a big showdown before the boss fight proper starts is an extremely satisfying payoff for the 10 or so hours spent convincing the faction to help you.
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** In Risen 2, the sequence leading up to and subsequent fight between Crowe's Earth Titan when you unlock the Harpoon. Marching to the ruins with you're chosen faction, destroying anything that gets in your way, then annihilating the other faction in a big showdown before the boss fight proper starts is an extremely satisfying payoff for the 10 or so hours spent convincing the faction to help you.

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** In Risen 2, the sequence leading up to and subsequent fight between Crowe's Earth Titan when you unlock the Harpoon.Titan Harpoon at the end of Act 1. Marching to the ruins with you're chosen faction, destroying anything that gets in your way, then annihilating the other faction in a big showdown before the boss fight proper starts is an extremely satisfying payoff for the 10 or so hours spent convincing the faction to help you.

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** In Risen 2, the sequence leading up to and subsequent fight between Crowe's Earth Titan when you unlock the Harpoon. Marching to the ruins with you're chosen faction, destroying anything that gets in your way, then annihilating the other faction in a big showdown before the boss fight proper starts is an extremely satisfying payoff for the 10 or so hours spent convincing the faction to help you.



* IdiotPlot: Risen 3. The plot depends on Bones [[spoiler: not telling the hero that he noticed suspicious behaviour in one of their crewmates. He even tells the hero there was always "something more important" than '''telling the hero there might be a traitor on board that is sabotaging the mission'''.]] This is supposed to be funny and part of Bones' quirkiness but actually pushes your [[TheLancer Lancer]] into WhatAnIdiot territory.

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* IdiotPlot: Risen 3. The plot depends on Bones [[spoiler: not telling the hero that he noticed suspicious behaviour behavior in one of their crewmates. He even tells the hero there was always "something more important" than '''telling the hero there might be a traitor on board that is sabotaging the mission'''.]] This is supposed to be funny and part of Bones' quirkiness but actually pushes your [[TheLancer Lancer]] into WhatAnIdiot territory.



* WinBackTheCrowd: Though still a BaseBreaker, Risen 3 has been considered a ''huge'' improvement over Risen 2.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: Though still a BaseBreaker, Risen 3 has been considered a ''huge'' improvement over Risen 2.
2, mainly due to the re-addition of magic and just having that ''VideoGame/Gothic'' feeling many felt Risen 2 lacked.
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!!The film:

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!!The film:film:
* HilariousInHindsight: Cliff Curtis played the father of Keisha Castle-Hughes's character in ''Film/WhaleRider''. Castle-Hughes later played Mary the mother of Jesus in ''Film/TheNativityStory''.
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!!The video game:

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!!The movie:

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!!The video game:



* WinBackTheCrowd: Though still a BaseBreaker, Risen 3 has been considered a ''huge'' improvement over Risen 2.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: Though still a BaseBreaker, Risen 3 has been considered a ''huge'' improvement over Risen 2.2.

!!The movie:
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: When you use a Joke spell on Inquisitor Mendoza, he doesn't laugh out as loud as other characters, and at the end of it, he says "It's been too long since I laughed". He may be a real bastard most of the time, [[spoiler: and his attempts at releasing the Titan don't exactly make him any more relatable]], but who knows how much horrors he's been through? Maybe he is indeed doing what he thinks is best, instead of being the delusional old man that everyone takes him for.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Your fight with [[spoiler:the fire Titan]] in the finale of the original game. It may be because you're [[spoiler: fighting a [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] [[PlayingWithFire fire]] [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever Titan]], or it may be because you're using [[ArmorOfInvincibility the old Titan Lord's armor]], which is absolutely BadAss]], but either way, it's awesome. [[BossDissonance The fight]] [[AntiClimaxBoss proper]], on the other hand...
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* WinBackTheCrowd: Though still a BaseBreaker, Risen 3 has been considered a ''huge'' improvement over Risen 3.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: Though still a BaseBreaker, Risen 3 has been considered a ''huge'' improvement over Risen 3.2.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The first game in the series is considered to be good, and a more worthy successor to the first two ''VideoGame/{{Gothic}}'' games than the actual sequels. However, even though ''Risen 2'' and ''3'' have their fans, they haven't been as well regarded in general, mainly because of the combat.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: The first game in the series is considered to be good, and a more worthy successor to the first two ''VideoGame/{{Gothic}}'' games than the actual sequels. However, even though ''Risen 2'' and ''3'' have their fans, they haven't been as well regarded in general, mainly because of the combat.combat.
* WinBackTheCrowd: Though still a BaseBreaker, Risen 3 has been considered a ''huge'' improvement over Risen 3.
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* {{Sequelitis}}: The first game in the series is considered to be good, and a more worthy successor to the first two Gothic games than the actual sequels. However, even though Risen 2 and 3 have their fans, they haven't been as well regarded, mainly because of the combat.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: The first game in the series is considered to be good, and a more worthy successor to the first two Gothic ''VideoGame/{{Gothic}}'' games than the actual sequels. However, even though Risen 2 ''Risen 2'' and 3 ''3'' have their fans, they haven't been as well regarded, regarded in general, mainly because of the combat.
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* MagnificentBastard: Garcia. [[spoiler: He and his pirates kill Commander Corrientes and his soldiers, hide their bodies, steal their clothes and impersonate them. He convinces the natives of being their ally and even fools {{the Hero}} into doing the dirty work for him.]]

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* MagnificentBastard: Garcia. [[spoiler: He and his pirates kill Commander Corrientes and his soldiers, hide their bodies, steal their clothes and impersonate them. He convinces the natives of being their ally and even fools {{the Hero}} into doing the dirty work for him.]]]]
* {{Sequelitis}}: The first game in the series is considered to be good, and a more worthy successor to the first two Gothic games than the actual sequels. However, even though Risen 2 and 3 have their fans, they haven't been as well regarded, mainly because of the combat.
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* CharacterDerailment: Compare Risen 1!Mendoza and Risen 2!Bones to their Risen 3 incarnations, there're almost no similarities. Bones for example was a pessimistic, only mildly excentric doctor in Risen 2 and in Risen 3 he's morphed into some kind of insane CloudCuckoolander obsessed with ritual sacrifices.
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* IdiotPlot: Risen 3. The plot depends on [[spoiler: Bones not telling the hero that he noticed suspicious behaviour in one of their crewmates. He even tells the hero there was always "something more important" than '''telling the hero there might be a traitor on board that is sabotaging the mission'''.]] This is supposed to be funny and part of Bones' quirkiness but actually pushes your [[TheLancer Lancer]] into WhatAnIdiot territory.

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* IdiotPlot: Risen 3. The plot depends on Bones [[spoiler: Bones not telling the hero that he noticed suspicious behaviour in one of their crewmates. He even tells the hero there was always "something more important" than '''telling the hero there might be a traitor on board that is sabotaging the mission'''.]] This is supposed to be funny and part of Bones' quirkiness but actually pushes your [[TheLancer Lancer]] into WhatAnIdiot territory.
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Whenever I edit this I notice yet another mistake I made. *sigh* Sorry.


* IdiotPlot: Risen 3. The plot depends on [[spoiler: Bones not telling the hero that he noticed suspicious behaviour in one of their crewmates. He even tells the hero there was alsways "something more important" than '''telling the hero there might be a traitor on board that is sabotaging the mission'''.]] This is supposed to be funny and part of Bones' quirkiness but actually pushes your [[TheLancer Lancer]] into WhatAnIdiot territory.

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* IdiotPlot: Risen 3. The plot depends on [[spoiler: Bones not telling the hero that he noticed suspicious behaviour in one of their crewmates. He even tells the hero there was alsways always "something more important" than '''telling the hero there might be a traitor on board that is sabotaging the mission'''.]] This is supposed to be funny and part of Bones' quirkiness but actually pushes your [[TheLancer Lancer]] into WhatAnIdiot territory.
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* IdiotPlot: Risen 3. The plot depends on [[spoiler: Bones not telling the hero that he noticed suspicious behaviour in one of his crewmates. He even tells the hero there was alsways "something more important" than '''telling the hero there might be a traitor on board that is sabotaging their mission'''.]] This is supposed to be funny but actually pushes your [[TheLancer Lancer]] into WhatAnIdiot territory.

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* IdiotPlot: Risen 3. The plot depends on [[spoiler: Bones not telling the hero that he noticed suspicious behaviour in one of his their crewmates. He even tells the hero there was alsways "something more important" than '''telling the hero there might be a traitor on board that is sabotaging their the mission'''.]] This is supposed to be funny and part of Bones' quirkiness but actually pushes your [[TheLancer Lancer]] into WhatAnIdiot territory.
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* IdiotPlot: Risen 3. The plot depends on [[spoiler: Bones not telling the hero that he noticed suspicious behaviour in one of his crewmates. He even tells the hero there was alsways "something more important" than '''telling the hero there might be a traitor on board that is sabotaging their mission'''.]] This is supposed to be funny but actually pushes your supposed [[TheLancer Lancer]] into WhatAnIdiot territory.

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* IdiotPlot: Risen 3. The plot depends on [[spoiler: Bones not telling the hero that he noticed suspicious behaviour in one of his crewmates. He even tells the hero there was alsways "something more important" than '''telling the hero there might be a traitor on board that is sabotaging their mission'''.]] This is supposed to be funny but actually pushes your supposed [[TheLancer Lancer]] into WhatAnIdiot territory.
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* IdiotPlot: Risen 3. The plot depends on [[spoiler: Bones not telling the hero that he noticed suspicious behaviour in one of his crewmates. He even tells the hero there was alsways "something more important" than '''telling the hero there might be a traitor on board that might sabotage their mission'''.]] This is supposed to be funny but actually pushes your supposed [[TheLancer Lancer]] into WhatAnIdiot territory.

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* IdiotPlot: Risen 3. The plot depends on [[spoiler: Bones not telling the hero that he noticed suspicious behaviour in one of his crewmates. He even tells the hero there was alsways "something more important" than '''telling the hero there might be a traitor on board that might sabotage is sabotaging their mission'''.]] This is supposed to be funny but actually pushes your supposed [[TheLancer Lancer]] into WhatAnIdiot territory.
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I liked Risen 3, I really did (mostly because of the gameplay), but these are serious problems with the story that can\'t be ignored. :/

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* CharacterDerailment: Compare Risen 1!Mendoza and Risen 2!Bones to their Risen 3 incarnations, there're almost no similarities. Bones for example was a pessimistic, only mildly excentric doctor in Risen 2 and in Risen 3 he's morphed into some kind of insane CloudCuckoolander obsessed with ritual sacrifices.


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* IdiotPlot: Risen 3. The plot depends on [[spoiler: Bones not telling the hero that he noticed suspicious behaviour in one of his crewmates. He even tells the hero there was alsways "something more important" than '''telling the hero there might be a traitor on board that might sabotage their mission'''.]] This is supposed to be funny but actually pushes your supposed [[TheLancer Lancer]] into WhatAnIdiot territory.
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* GameBreaker: Guardians in Risen 3 can become ridiculously powerful. Not only do the ElementalPunch spells ludicrous damage, but Guardians also get access to two very useful support spells: [[MasterOfUnlocking Rust]] which let's you bypass lockpicking and [[HealThyself Heal]] which let's you... [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin well, guess]]. Once you [[OneStatToRuleThemAll powerlevel your magic stat]] (which isn't all that hard) you won't have problems ever again.

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* GameBreaker: Guardians in Risen 3 can become ridiculously powerful. Not only do the ElementalPunch spells ludicrous damage, but Guardians also get access to two very useful support spells: [[MasterOfUnlocking Rust]] which let's lets you bypass lockpicking and [[HealThyself Heal]] which let's lets you... [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin well, guess]]. Once you [[OneStatToRuleThemAll powerlevel your magic stat]] (which isn't all that hard) you won't have problems ever again.
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* GameBreaker: Guardians in Risen 3 can become ridiculously powerful. Not only do the ElementalPunch spells ludicrous damage, but Guardians also get access to two very useful support spells: [[MasterOfUnlocking Rust]] which let's you bypass lockpicking and [[HealThyself Heal]] which let's you... [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin well, guess]]. Once you [[OneStatToRuleThemAll powerlevel your magic stat]] (which isn't all that hard) you won't have any problems anymore.

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* GameBreaker: Guardians in Risen 3 can become ridiculously powerful. Not only do the ElementalPunch spells ludicrous damage, but Guardians also get access to two very useful support spells: [[MasterOfUnlocking Rust]] which let's you bypass lockpicking and [[HealThyself Heal]] which let's you... [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin well, guess]]. Once you [[OneStatToRuleThemAll powerlevel your magic stat]] (which isn't all that hard) you won't have any problems anymore.ever again.
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I hope the names \"Rust\" and \"Heal\" are correct. I played the german version of Risen 3 and translated the spellnames myself. I hope there\'s not too much of a difference with the English version.

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* GameBreaker: Guardians in Risen 3 can become ridiculously powerful. Not only do the ElementalPunch spells ludicrous damage, but Guardians also get access to two very useful support spells: [[MasterOfUnlocking Rust]] which let's you bypass lockpicking and [[HealThyself Heal]] which let's you... [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin well, guess]]. Once you [[OneStatToRuleThemAll powerlevel your magic stat]] (which isn't all that hard) you won't have any problems anymore.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Your [[DeadpanSnarker conversation]] with Erikson while tracking down Steelbeard's treasure chests.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Your [[DeadpanSnarker conversation]] with Erikson while tracking down Steelbeard's treasure chests.chests.
* MagnificentBastard: Garcia. [[spoiler: He and his pirates kill Commander Corrientes and his soldiers, hide their bodies, steal their clothes and impersonate them. He convinces the natives of being their ally and even fools {{the Hero}} into doing the dirty work for him.]]

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