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If people are allowed to cite already harsh things as being similar to the Patriot Act when it came out years later in the Harsher In Hindsight article, this certainly can and should be mentioned as well. And besides, just listen to the two speeches between Palpatine and Obama about reorganizing the Executive Branch to consolidate power in that area. They\'re so similar that Obama almost copied Palpatine word for word.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Nearing the end of the movie, Palpatine declares his intent to reorganize the Galactic Republic into the Galactic Empire. The already horrifying prospect is made even more harsh recently after Barack Obama declared to reorganize the government to make the Executive Branch the most powerful and unquestioned position, under eerily similar reasons to Palpatine, during his 2012 State of the Union address.
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This seems like it\'s just going to start flame wars at best.


* HarsherInHindsight: Nearing the end of the movie, Palpatine declares his intent to reorganize the Galactic Republic into the Galactic Empire. The already horrifying prospect is made even more harsh recently after Barack Obama declared to reorganize the government to make the Executive Branch the most powerful and unquestioned position, under eerily similar reasons to Palpatine, during his 2012 State of the Union address.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Nearing the end of the movie, Palpatine declares his intent to reorganize the Galactic Republic into the Galactic Empire. The already horrifying prospect is made even more harsh recently after Barack Obama declared to reorganize the government to make the Executive Branch the most powerful and unquestioned position, under eerily similar reasons to Palpatine, during his 2012 State of the Union address.
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** To be fair, Ewan [=McGregor=] delivered his lines well. But then we get "In my opinion the Jedi are evil." That line alone pretty much sums up the movie. When your Dark Lord of the Sith sounds like the slow member of the debate team, you've got problems.

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** To be fair, Ewan [=McGregor=] delivered his lines well. But then we get "In "From my opinion point of view, the Jedi are evil." evil!" That line alone pretty much sums up the movie. When your Dark Lord of the Sith sounds like the slow member of the debate team, you've got problems.
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* CompleteMonster: Palpatine, of course.

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* CompleteMonster: Palpatine, of course. Add-on materials including the novelization reveal [[spoiler:he was angry at Anakin for losing to Obi-wan and considered leaving him for dead since he was crippled both physically and in his strength with the Force. The only thing that convinced him otherwise was that Anakin would still be powerful even in this state]].
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* IdiotPlot: Much of the reason Anakin loses trust in the Jedi and eventually betrays them is due to ''them'' not trusting ''him'', thus giving him good reason to do the same. In the end, Anakin's betrayal of the Jedi was as much them pushing him away as him turning his back on them.
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Had he truly been a complete monster, he wouldn\'t have been redeemed in Episode VI.


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** To be fair, Ewan McGregor delivered his lines well. But then we get "In my opinion the Jedi are evil." That line alone pretty much sums up the movie. When your Dark Lord of the Sith sounds like the slow member of the debate team, you've got problems.

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** To be fair, Ewan McGregor [=McGregor=] delivered his lines well. But then we get "In my opinion the Jedi are evil." That line alone pretty much sums up the movie. When your Dark Lord of the Sith sounds like the slow member of the debate team, you've got problems.
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** AlternateCharacterInterpritation: Anakin.
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** To be fair, Ewan McGregor delivered his lines well. But then we get "In my opinion the Jedi are evil." That line alone pretty much sums up the movie. When your Dark Lord of the Sith sounds like the slow member of the debate team, you've got problems.

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** To be fair, Ewan McGregor McGregor delivered his lines well. But then we get "In my opinion the Jedi are evil." That line alone pretty much sums up the movie. When your Dark Lord of the Sith sounds like the slow member of the debate team, you've got problems.
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** To be fair, Ewan McGregor delivered his lines well. But then we get "In my opinion the Jedi are evil." That line alone pretty much sums up the movie. When your Dark Lord of the Sith sounds like the slow member of the debate team, you've got problems.
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* {{Narm}}: All of the dialogue between Anakin and Obi-Wan right before and during their duel. Seriously, it's like the writers were ''trying'' to make the lines as bad and cheesy as possible.
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* CompleteMonster: Palpatine, of course.
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** Obi-Wan after defeating Anakin and leaving him to die. There's a shot of him [[AchillesInHisTent sitting in the cockpit of his ship]] pondering what he's just done.

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** Obi-Wan after defeating Anakin and leaving him to die. There's a shot of him [[AchillesInHisTent sitting in the cockpit of his ship]] pondering [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone what he's just done.]]
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** Mace's survival is at least somewhat plausible. He loses his hand, gets zapped by lightning, and tossed from a significant height, all of which Jedi are shown to be able to survive throughout the saga (although never all at once.) Secura however, gets shot in the back by at least a dozen troops at near point-blank range, and her body ''continues to be shot'' as the camera pans out.

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*** During her funeral procession, there is a shot of her casket that shows she's holding the necklace Anakin gave her as a child. Bawwww.

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*** During her funeral procession, there is a shot of her casket that shows she's holding the necklace Anakin gave her as a child. Bawwww.



** "[[ChildrenAreInnocent Master Skywalker, there are too many of them. What are we going to do?]]"

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** "[[ChildrenAreInnocent Master Skywalker, there are too many of them. What are we going to do?]]"do?]]"
** The final shot of the film, Owen and Beru, holding baby Luke, and [[CallForward watching the suns set over Tatooine]] while Luke's theme from [[ANewHope the original film]] plays.
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* MemeticMutation: Vader's "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!" has since been used as a way (mostly in jest) to show great disapproval over things on forums and message boards.
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* MostlyNarmless: Take out the BigNo, and Darth Vader's first scene is actually quite powerful.

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* MostlyNarmless: Take out the BigNo, and Darth Vader's first scene in armor is actually quite powerful.
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* HesJustHiding: Was done to Mace Windu and Aayla Secura, even though they're both killed onscreen.
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Those who hated the first two movies generally consider the third to be this. Those who enjoyed the first two regard it as an EvenBetterSequel.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Some people felt that Padme's "This is how democracy dies... with thunderous applause" line was a blatant jab at things like the Patriot Act and the overall culture of post-9/11 America. For what it's worth, GeorgeLucas has implied that it was actually supposed to be referencing Nazi Germany.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: Some people felt that Padme's "This "So this is how democracy liberty dies... with thunderous applause" line was a blatant jab at things like the Patriot Act and the overall culture of post-9/11 America. For what it's worth, GeorgeLucas has implied that it was actually supposed to be referencing Nazi Germany.
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*** [[DramaticIrony "Where is Padme? Is she safe"]]

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*** [[DramaticIrony "Where is Padme? Is she safe"]]safe?"]]
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** Youngling Zett Jukassa being mercilessly gunned down by the clone troops before a mortified Bail Organa's eyes.

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** Youngling Zett Jukassa being mercilessly gunned down by the clone troops before a mortified horrified Bail Organa's eyes.
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* MostlyNarmless: Take out the BigNo, and Darth Vader's first scene is actually quite powerful.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Some people felt that Padme's "This is how democracy dies... with thunderous applause" line was a blatant jab at things like the Patriot Act and the overall culture of post-9/11 America. For what it's worth, GeorgeLucas has implied that it was actually supposed to be referencing Nazi Germany.
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* AntiVillain: Vader, at least in comparison to Palpatine.
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** Obi-Wan after defeating Anakin and leaving him to die. There's a shot of him [[AchillesInHisTent sitting in the cockpit of his ship]] pondering what he's just done.
** The {{Narm}}ful BigNo aside, Anakin's painful transformation into Darth Vader.
*** [[DramaticIrony "Where is Padme? Is she safe"]]

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* TearJerker: Order 66, especially when you see Yoda's anguish at [[spoiler: feeling the death of nearly every Jedi in the galaxy.]]

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* TearJerker: [[KillEmAll Order 66, 66]], especially when you see Yoda's anguish at [[spoiler: feeling the death of nearly every Jedi in the galaxy.]]



*** During her funeral procession, there is a shot of her casket that shows she's holding the necklace Anakin gave her as a child. Bawwww.



** "Master Skywalker, there are too many of them. What are we going to do?"

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** "Master "[[ChildrenAreInnocent Master Skywalker, there are too many of them. What are we going to do?"do?]]"
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** Vader walking into a room full of Jedi children and [[spoiler: slaughtering every one of them, albeit offscreen]], anyone?

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** Vader walking into a room full "Master Skywalker, there are too many of Jedi children and [[spoiler: slaughtering every one of them, albeit offscreen]], anyone?them. What are we going to do?"
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** "You were my brother, Anakin! I loved you!"

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** "You were my brother, Anakin! I loved you!"you!"
** Vader walking into a room full of Jedi children and [[spoiler: slaughtering every one of them, albeit offscreen]], anyone?

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