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** The transgender girl blackmailing Tommy Wheeler feels eerily similar to a [[http://celebs.walla.co.il/?w=/3600/2715621 case that took place in Israel]]. No details were given, other than that a trans woman blackmailed a local famous singer for several thousand shekels with a picture of them together, but backed down after a few conversations between them.

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HarsherInHindsight: The transgender girl blackmailing Tommy Wheeler feels eerily similar to a [[http://celebs.walla.co.il/?w=/3600/2715621 case that took place in Israel]]. No details were given, other than that a trans woman blackmailed a local famous singer for several thousand shekels with a picture of them together, but backed down after a few conversations between them.
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** Cis man Alex Saxon playing trans woman Chloe has become particularly unfortunate since Saxon came out as gender-critical, unlike star Creator/LievSchreiber, the proud father of a trans daughter.
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** Alex Saxon playing trans woman Chloe has become particularly unfortunate since Saxon came out as gender-critical, unlike star Creator/LievSchreiber, the proud father of a trans daughter.

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** Cis man Alex Saxon playing trans woman Chloe has become particularly unfortunate since Saxon came out as gender-critical, unlike star Creator/LievSchreiber, the proud father of a trans daughter.

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* HarsherInHindsight: The transgender girl blackmailing Tommy Wheeler feels eerily similar to a [[http://celebs.walla.co.il/?w=/3600/2715621 case that took place in Israel]]. No details were given, other than that a trans woman blackmailed a local famous singer for several thousand shekels with a picture of them together, but backed down after a few conversations between them.

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The transgender girl blackmailing Tommy Wheeler feels eerily similar to a [[http://celebs.walla.co.il/?w=/3600/2715621 case that took place in Israel]]. No details were given, other than that a trans woman blackmailed a local famous singer for several thousand shekels with a picture of them together, but backed down after a few conversations between them.them.
** Alex Saxon playing trans woman Chloe has become particularly unfortunate since Saxon came out as gender-critical, unlike star Creator/LievSchreiber, the proud father of a trans daughter.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: In "SUCK, [[spoiler: Frank kills the InnocentBystander obviously on a LeaveNoWitnesses menatliy.]] Or [[spoiler: [[MercyKill just kills them because Tiny's dead body fell on him and it was crushing his legs and probably his whole body]].]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: In "SUCK, "SUCK", [[spoiler: Frank kills the InnocentBystander obviously on a LeaveNoWitnesses menatliy.mentality.]] Or [[spoiler: [[MercyKill just kills them because Tiny's dead body fell on him and it was crushing his legs and probably his whole body]].]]



* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: While Jon Voight is an oscar-winning actor, he's been getting supporting and generic roles for the past decade, but as Mickey Donovan he showed Critics and audiences that he can still knock it out of the park with flying colors.

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* SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: While Jon Voight is an oscar-winning Oscar-winning actor, he's been getting supporting and generic roles for the past decade, but as Mickey Donovan he showed Critics critics and audiences that he can still knock it out of the park with flying colors.
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* HarsherInHindsight: The transsexual girl blackmailing Tommy Wheeler feels eerily similar to a [[http://celebs.walla.co.il/?w=/3600/2715621 recent case that took place in Israel]]. No details were given, other than that a transwoman blackmailed a local famous singer for several thousand shekels with a picture of them together, but backed down after a few conversations between them.

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* HarsherInHindsight: The transsexual transgender girl blackmailing Tommy Wheeler feels eerily similar to a [[http://celebs.walla.co.il/?w=/3600/2715621 recent case that took place in Israel]]. No details were given, other than that a transwoman trans woman blackmailed a local famous singer for several thousand shekels with a picture of them together, but backed down after a few conversations between them.
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* {{Squick}}: Ray’s new client, a man who wrote self-help books and gives pep talks about ‘radical honesty’, tells him he once [[ADateWithRosiePalms masturbated]] to the image of [[ParentalIncest his own mother]] breastfeeding his [[PaedoHunt baby sister]] when he was [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior twelve years old]] to encourage Ray to talk more openly about his secrets.

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* {{Squick}}: Ray’s new client, a man who wrote self-help books and gives pep talks about ‘radical honesty’, tells him he once [[ADateWithRosiePalms masturbated]] masturbated to the image of [[ParentalIncest his own mother]] breastfeeding his [[PaedoHunt baby sister]] when he was [[TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior twelve years old]] to encourage Ray to talk more openly about his secrets.
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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: Van Miller seems to have OCD or some variation of thereof considering his odd mannerisms, cleanliness obsession and tendency to arrange everything in perfect order, but the show never confirms or denies this.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Mickey has gained this reaction from some fans due to his actions that just keep landing him and others around him into deeper trouble in Season 2. There was the time when he attacked Alan, screwing up his movie dream as a consequence, [[spoiler: seriously considering to give the 14 year old Conor a car and even worse, seriously considering to perform a heist on a marijuana dispensary safe with the assistance of a cancer ridden Vietnam veteran constantly high on oxygen and weed that he gets from said marijuana dispensary. He then recruits his parole officer who predictably tries to sell him out to Ray and lets the normally law abiding Terry in on it with minimal resistance. He even asks Daryl ''right to his face in Terry's gym'' to assist him despite Daryl making it clear on more than one occasion he's disowned him. Even if he did eventually go along with it]], and for much of the season he only really succeeds in alienating his sons even more.
** It gets worse in Season 3. [[spoiler: After killing an abusive redneck pimp, he takes over his operation, and gets funding for it from the Minassian Family of the Armenian Mafia (roping Daryll and Bunchie into it as well). Naturally he blows most of the money, and tries to get one over on the Family by paying them back with fake money and then "tries" to beat them with a pipe (Daryll and Bunchie also get involved in the fight). They blow up his car in retaliation. Later, the Family find out he was involved with the cops in a sting operation to bust one of their human trafficking deals (or face prison again for his pimping), prompting them to shoot up his apartment while he's having a party (killing Daryll's new girlfriend and very nearly killing Terry). What makes it worse is that Ray tried to force Mickey to move to Nevada for being such an instigator of doom (in particular because he tried to talk the Minassians into letting Mickey go himself, and got a gun pointed at his head for his troubles; also because Bunchie's involvement in his operation gets him arrested on his wedding day because Mickey tried to run out on the sting operation), but he refused at the last second, meaning he was home for the Minassians to target.]]
** Even before all of this, Mickey tries to [[spoiler: strong arm Terry's judge into letting him out of prison for his part in the heist, but accidentally causes him to have a fatal heart attack mere seconds before Ray and Detective Barnes arrive to do the same their way. This ends up forcing Ray to get Andrew Finney's help in the matter, in exchange for signing himself and his company over to the Finneys]]. Mickey finally seems to realize how much shit he's caused for everyone at the end of Season 3 [[spoiler: as he's last shown driving into Nevada.]]
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* MagnificentBastard: Mickey in Season 1. Not so much to some fans in Seasons 2 and 3. See WhatAnIdiot below.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Hasmig's song in "One Night in Yerevan" (S3 [=EP10=]) is actually "''[=PreGomesh=]''" by Music/{{Sirusho}}.
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* HeartwarmingMoments: [[NotSoStoic Ray]] goofily dancing with his son to Aerosmith at the end of "Walk This Way".

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* HeartwarmingMoments: SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: [[NotSoStoic Ray]] goofily dancing with his son to Aerosmith at the end of "Walk This Way".
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* HeartwarmingMoments: [[NotSoStoic Ray]] goofily dancing with his son to Aerosmith at the end of "Walk This Way".
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* CruelMercy: [[spoiler: In "Poker", despite all the trouble Cochran has caused for Ray to get back at him in season 3, the latter lets him live.]]
-->'''Ray:''' You got the rest of your life to look forward to.

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* FunnyMoments: Mick’s observation about masturbation in ‘Handshake Deal’.
* HeReallyCanAct: While Jon Voight is an oscar-winning actor, he's been getting supporting and generic roles for the past decade, but as Mickey Donovan he showed Critics and audiences that he can still knock it out of the park with flying colors.

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* FunnyMoments: SugarWiki/FunnyMoments: Mick’s observation about masturbation in ‘Handshake Deal’.
* HeReallyCanAct: SugarWiki/HeReallyCanAct: While Jon Voight is an oscar-winning actor, he's been getting supporting and generic roles for the past decade, but as Mickey Donovan he showed Critics and audiences that he can still knock it out of the park with flying colors.



** Even before all of this, Mickey tries to [[spoiler: strong arm Terry's judge into letting him out of prison for his part in the heist, but accidentally causes him to have a fatal heart attack mere seconds before Ray and Detective Barnes arrive to do the same their way. This ends up forcing Ray to get Andrew Finney's help in the matter, in exchange for signing himself and his company over to the Finneys]]. Mickey finally seems to realize how much shit he's caused for everyone at the end of Season 3 [[spoiler: as he's last shown driving into Nevada.]]

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** Even before all of this, Mickey tries to [[spoiler: strong arm Terry's judge into letting him out of prison for his part in the heist, but accidentally causes him to have a fatal heart attack mere seconds before Ray and Detective Barnes arrive to do the same their way. This ends up forcing Ray to get Andrew Finney's help in the matter, in exchange for signing himself and his company over to the Finneys]]. Mickey finally seems to realize how much shit he's caused for everyone at the end of Season 3 [[spoiler: as he's last shown driving into Nevada.]]]]
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* StalkerWithACrush: Some fans noted this behavior in Bridget falling for her teacher.
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-->'''Mickey:''' What’s the difference between [[RiseOfZitboy acne]] and a [[PedophilePriest priest]]? Acne [[JailbaitWait waits till the boy is 14]] to [[DoubleEntendre come on his face]].

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-->'''Mickey:''' What’s the difference between [[RiseOfZitboy acne]] acne and a [[PedophilePriest priest]]? priest? Acne [[JailbaitWait waits till the boy is 14]] 14 to [[DoubleEntendre come on his face]].face.



-->'''Ray:''' [[YouWillBeSpared You got the rest of your life to look forward to.]]

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-->'''Ray:''' [[YouWillBeSpared You got the rest of your life to look forward to.]]

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* CruelMercy: [[spoiler: In "Poker", despite all the trouble he has caused for Ray to get back at him, the latter lets him live.]]

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* CruelMercy: [[spoiler: In "Poker", despite all the trouble he Cochran has caused for Ray to get back at him, him in season 3, the latter lets him live.]]
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* StalkerWithACrush: Some fans noted this behavior in Bridget falling for her teacher.
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-->'''Ray:''' [[YouWillBeSpared Don't worry, [[spoiler: Cochran]]. You got the rest of your life to look forward to.]]

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-->'''Ray:''' [[YouWillBeSpared Don't worry, [[spoiler: Cochran]]. You got the rest of your life to look forward to.]]
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-->'''Ray:''' [[YouWillBeSpared Don't worry, Cochran. You got the rest of your life to look forward to.]]

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-->'''Ray:''' [[YouWillBeSpared Don't worry, Cochran.[[spoiler: Cochran]]. You got the rest of your life to look forward to.]]
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* CruelMercy: [[spoiler In "Poker", despite all the trouble he has caused for Ray to get back at him, the latter lets him live.]]

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* CruelMercy: [[spoiler [[spoiler: In "Poker", despite all the trouble he has caused for Ray to get back at him, the latter lets him live.]]
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* CruelMercy: [[spoiler In "Poker", despite all the trouble he has caused for Ray to get back at him, the latter lets him live.]]
-->'''Ray:''' [[YouWillBeSpared Don't worry, Cochran. You got the rest of your life to look forward to.]]
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* MagnificentBastard: Mickey in Season 1. Not so much to some fans in Season 2. See WhatAnIdiot below.

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* MagnificentBastard: Mickey in Season 1. Not so much to some fans in Season 2.Seasons 2 and 3. See WhatAnIdiot below.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Mickey has gained this reaction from some fans due to his actions that just keep landing him and others around him into deeper trouble in Season 2. There was the time when he attacked Alan, screwing up his movie dream as a consequencem, [[spoiler: seriously considering to give the 14 year old Conor a car and even worse, seriously considering to perform a heist on a marijuana dispensary safe with the assistance of a cancer ridden Vietnam veteran constantly high on oxygen and weed that he gets from said marijuana dispensary. He then recruits his parole officer who predictably tries to sell him out to Ray and lets the normally law abiding Terry in on it with minimal resistance. He even asks Daryl ''right to his face in Terry's gym'' to assist him despite Daryl making it clear on more than one occasion he's disowned him. Even if he did eventually go along with it.]] and for much of the season he only really succeeds in alienating his sons even more.
** It gets worse in Season 3. [[spoiler: After killing an abusive redneck pimp, he takes over his operation, and gets funding for it from the Minassian Family of the Armenian Mafia (roping Daryll and Bunchie into it as well). Naturally he blows most of the money, and tries to get one over on the Family by paying them back with fake money and then "tries" to beat them with a pipe (Daryll and Bunchie also get involved in the fight). They blow up his car in retaliation. Later, the Family find out he was involved with the cops in a sting operation to bust a human trafficking deal (or face prison again for his pimping operation), prompting them to shoot up his apartment while he's having a party (killing Daryll's new girlfriend and very nearly killing Terry). What makes it worse is that Ray tried to force Mickey to move to Nevada for being such an instigator of doom (in particular because he tried to talk the Minassians into letting Mickey go himself, and got a gun pointed at his head for his troubles; also because Bunchie's involvement in his operation gets him arrested on his wedding day), but he refused at the last second, meaning he was home for the Minassians to target.]]
** Even before all of this, Mickey tries to [[spoiler: strong arm Terry's judge into letting him out of prison for his part in the heist, but accidentally causes him to have a fatal heart attack mere seconds before Ray and Detective Barnes arrive to do the same their way. This ends up forcing Ray to get Andrew Finney's help in the matter, in exchange for signing himself and his company over to the Finneys. Mickey finally seems to realize how much shit he's caused for everyone at the end of Season 3 as he's last shown driving into Nevada.]]

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* WhatAnIdiot: Mickey has gained this reaction from some fans due to his actions that just keep landing him and others around him into deeper trouble in Season 2. There was the time when he attacked Alan, screwing up his movie dream as a consequencem, consequence, [[spoiler: seriously considering to give the 14 year old Conor a car and even worse, seriously considering to perform a heist on a marijuana dispensary safe with the assistance of a cancer ridden Vietnam veteran constantly high on oxygen and weed that he gets from said marijuana dispensary. He then recruits his parole officer who predictably tries to sell him out to Ray and lets the normally law abiding Terry in on it with minimal resistance. He even asks Daryl ''right to his face in Terry's gym'' to assist him despite Daryl making it clear on more than one occasion he's disowned him. Even if he did eventually go along with it.]] it]], and for much of the season he only really succeeds in alienating his sons even more.
** It gets worse in Season 3. [[spoiler: After killing an abusive redneck pimp, he takes over his operation, and gets funding for it from the Minassian Family of the Armenian Mafia (roping Daryll and Bunchie into it as well). Naturally he blows most of the money, and tries to get one over on the Family by paying them back with fake money and then "tries" to beat them with a pipe (Daryll and Bunchie also get involved in the fight). They blow up his car in retaliation. Later, the Family find out he was involved with the cops in a sting operation to bust a one of their human trafficking deal deals (or face prison again for his pimping operation), pimping), prompting them to shoot up his apartment while he's having a party (killing Daryll's new girlfriend and very nearly killing Terry). What makes it worse is that Ray tried to force Mickey to move to Nevada for being such an instigator of doom (in particular because he tried to talk the Minassians into letting Mickey go himself, and got a gun pointed at his head for his troubles; also because Bunchie's involvement in his operation gets him arrested on his wedding day), day because Mickey tried to run out on the sting operation), but he refused at the last second, meaning he was home for the Minassians to target.]]
** Even before all of this, Mickey tries to [[spoiler: strong arm Terry's judge into letting him out of prison for his part in the heist, but accidentally causes him to have a fatal heart attack mere seconds before Ray and Detective Barnes arrive to do the same their way. This ends up forcing Ray to get Andrew Finney's help in the matter, in exchange for signing himself and his company over to the Finneys. Finneys]]. Mickey finally seems to realize how much shit he's caused for everyone at the end of Season 3 [[spoiler: as he's last shown driving into Nevada.]]
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** It gets worse in Season 3. [[spoiler: After killing an abusive redneck pimp, he takes over his operation, and gets funding for it from the Minassian Family of the Armenian Mafia (roping Daryll and Bunchie into it as well). Naturally he blows most of the money, and tries to get one over on the Family by giving them fake money and then "tries" to beat them with a pipe (Daryll and Bunchie also get involved in the fight). They blow up his car in retaliation. Later, the Family find out he was involved with the cops in a sting operation to bust a human trafficking deal, prompting them to shoot up his apartment while he's having a party (killing Daryll's new girlfriend and very nearly killing Terry). What makes it worse is that Ray tried to force Mickey to move to Nevada for being such an instigator of doom (in particular because he tried to talk the Minassians into letting Mickey go himself, and got a gun pointed at his head for his troubles; also because Bunchie's involvement in his operation gets him arrested on his wedding day), but he refused at the last second, meaning he was home for the Minassians to target.]]

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** It gets worse in Season 3. [[spoiler: After killing an abusive redneck pimp, he takes over his operation, and gets funding for it from the Minassian Family of the Armenian Mafia (roping Daryll and Bunchie into it as well). Naturally he blows most of the money, and tries to get one over on the Family by giving paying them back with fake money and then "tries" to beat them with a pipe (Daryll and Bunchie also get involved in the fight). They blow up his car in retaliation. Later, the Family find out he was involved with the cops in a sting operation to bust a human trafficking deal, deal (or face prison again for his pimping operation), prompting them to shoot up his apartment while he's having a party (killing Daryll's new girlfriend and very nearly killing Terry). What makes it worse is that Ray tried to force Mickey to move to Nevada for being such an instigator of doom (in particular because he tried to talk the Minassians into letting Mickey go himself, and got a gun pointed at his head for his troubles; also because Bunchie's involvement in his operation gets him arrested on his wedding day), but he refused at the last second, meaning he was home for the Minassians to target.]]

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