History YMMV / RaveMaster

19th Jun '17 3:23:41 PM FateStayWho
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** [[AxCrazy Ogre]] is a psychopathic [[TheBrute brute]] defined by his violence, lust and thirst for power. He steals a giant battleship called the Silver Ray, destroyes the reputation of its creator and uses it to try to annihilate a continent. The [[HairTriggerTemper hot-tempered]] Ogre will frequently fly into a rage and go on killing sprees of anyone in sight, as well as [[BadBoss sacrificing his minions]] without a second thought. Additionally, he plans to turn every women in the world into a sex slave, and [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty kidnaps Elie to rape her]].
** [[AxCrazy Shakuma Raregroove]] is the former [[SorcerousOverlord sorcerer-king]] of Raregroove and by far the most [[{{Sadist}} evil member]] of his family. He started a war with the kingdom of Symphonia [[ForTheEvulz purely for fun]], destroying both countries and all their citizens. He killed Haru's grandfather, the king of Symphonia, with a deadly curse. He abondoned his son (King) Gale so he would spend his life enduring so much suffering until he became a world-destroying nihilist. He allows his magical student Haja to initially believe that he merely wants to take over the world, before killing him and revealing that his true plan is to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy all of reality]] out of nothing more than hatred and [[{{sadist}} sadism]].

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** [[AxCrazy Ogre]] is a psychopathic [[TheBrute brute]] defined by his violence, lust and thirst for power. He steals a giant battleship called the Silver Ray, destroyes destroys the reputation of its creator and uses it to try to annihilate a continent. The [[HairTriggerTemper hot-tempered]] Ogre will frequently fly into a rage and go on killing sprees of anyone in sight, as well as [[BadBoss sacrificing his minions]] without a second thought. Additionally, he plans to turn every women in the world into a sex slave, and [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty kidnaps Elie to rape her]].
** [[AxCrazy Shakuma Raregroove]] is the former [[SorcerousOverlord sorcerer-king]] of Raregroove and by far the most [[{{Sadist}} evil member]] of his family. He started a war with the kingdom of Symphonia [[ForTheEvulz purely for fun]], destroying both countries and all their citizens. He killed Haru's grandfather, the king of Symphonia, with a deadly curse. He abondoned his son (King) Gale so he would spend his life enduring so much suffering until he became a world-destroying nihilist. He allows his magical student Haja to initially believe that he merely wants to take over the world, before killing him and revealing that his true plan is to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy all of reality]] out of nothing more than hatred and [[{{sadist}} sadism]]. On top of all this, unlike most villains in the series, he was never influenced by a Dark Bring and did everything of his own free will.
25th May '17 8:41:17 PM Eagal
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* CrazyAwesome: Let [[spoiler: turning into a massive dragon during the FinalBattle.]]

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* CrazyAwesome: CrazyAwesome:
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Let [[spoiler: turning into a massive dragon during the FinalBattle.]]



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The English Opening Theme, as mentioned below.



* HoYay: Two words: Mermen Harem.

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* HoYay: Two words: Mermen Harem.HoYay:



%%** Mermen Harem.



* {{Macekre}}: Not as bad as, say, a 4Kids dub (they didn't do this one), but yeah, the English dub has a few unnecessary edits, painfully unfunny puns and ad-libs.
** SoBadItsGood: The inevitable result.

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* {{Macekre}}: Not as bad as, say, a 4Kids dub (they didn't do this one), but yeah, the The English dub has a few unnecessary edits, painfully unfunny puns and ad-libs.
** SoBadItsGood: The inevitable result.
ad-libs.



** Asura's OneWingedAngel form.
** The Bug Monster sent by Blue Guardians.
*** The Blue Guardians in general. Not only are they AxCrazy [[TortureTechnician torturers]], they're [[{{Sadist}} sadism]] incarnate.
** The Endless. [[CosmicHorror Just... The Endless.]]

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** Asura's OneWingedAngel form.
** The Bug Monster sent by Blue Guardians.
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The Blue Guardians in general. Not only are they AxCrazy [[TortureTechnician torturers]], they're [[{{Sadist}} sadism]] incarnate.
** %%** Asura's OneWingedAngel form.
%%**
The Endless. [[CosmicHorror Just... Bug Monster sent by Blue Guardians.
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The Endless.]]



* SoBadItsGood: Many find the macekred English dub endearing because of its low quality.



* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler: Gale Glory, King, Reina, and Sieg Hart, to name a few.]]

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* %%* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler: Gale Glory, King, Reina, and Sieg Hart, to name a few.]]



* TheWoobie: Poor, poor Elie a.k.a [[spoiler: Resha]].
** Gale Glory, too.

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* TheWoobie: Poor, poor %%* TheWoobie:
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Elie a.k.a [[spoiler: Resha]].
** %%** Gale Glory, too.
16th May '17 8:06:26 PM creader
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* AmericanKirbyIsHardcore: The Japanese cover of the first volume has Plue eating a candy with several characters beside him. The North American and European box art has Haru wielding the Ten Commandments. Almost the opposite of what happened with the anime.
2nd Mar '17 1:41:10 PM ElSquibbonator
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* ClicheStorm: One of the main criticisms of Rave Master is that, poltwise, it's a pretty bog-standard shonen series.

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* ClicheStorm: One of the main criticisms of Rave Master is that, poltwise, plotwise, it's a pretty bog-standard shonen series.
2nd Mar '17 1:40:57 PM ElSquibbonator
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* ClicheStorm: One of the main criticisms of Rave Master is that, poltwise, it's a pretty bog-standard shonen series.
3rd Jan '17 3:20:14 AM Morgenthaler
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* ReplacementScrappy: Lucia for King. While the latter was EvilIsCool incarnate of {{Badass}} who was very LoveToHate [[spoiler: especially to what he did to Gale Glory after killing his wife]], the former combined with some heavy heaps of VillainDecay comes across as whiny brat with a huge SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum because mommy's not there anymore.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Lucia for King. While the latter was EvilIsCool incarnate of {{Badass}} badass who was very LoveToHate [[spoiler: especially to what he did to Gale Glory after killing his wife]], the former combined with some heavy heaps of VillainDecay comes across as whiny brat with a huge SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum because mommy's not there anymore.
8th Mar '15 2:19:02 PM ACW
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** Ogre is a psychopathic [[TheBrute brute]] defined by his violence, lust and thirst for power. He steals a giant battleship called the Silver Ray, destroying the reputation of its creator and using it to try to annihilate an entire continent. The [[HairTriggerTemper hot-tempered]] Ogre will frequently fly into a rage and go on killing sprees of anyone in sight, as well as [[BadBoss sacrifice his minions]] without a second thought. Additionally, he plans to turn every women in the world into a sex slave, as well as [[IhaveYouNowMyPretty kidnaps Elie to rape her]].
** Shakuma Raregroove is the former [[SorcerousOverlord sorcerer-king]] of Raregroove and by far the most evil member of his family. He started a war with the kingdom of Symphonia [[ForTheEvulz purely for fun]], destroying both countries and all their citizens. He killed Haru's grandfather, the king of Symphonia, with a deadly curse. He abondoned his son (King) Gale so he would spend his life enduring so much suffering until he became a world-destroying nihilist. He allows his magical student Haja to initially believe that he merely wants to take over the world, before killing him and revealing that his true plan is to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy all of reality]] out of nothing more than hatred and sadism.

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** Ogre [[AxCrazy Ogre]] is a psychopathic [[TheBrute brute]] defined by his violence, lust and thirst for power. He steals a giant battleship called the Silver Ray, destroying destroyes the reputation of its creator and using uses it to try to annihilate an entire a continent. The [[HairTriggerTemper hot-tempered]] Ogre will frequently fly into a rage and go on killing sprees of anyone in sight, as well as [[BadBoss sacrifice sacrificing his minions]] without a second thought. Additionally, he plans to turn every women in the world into a sex slave, as well as [[IhaveYouNowMyPretty slave, and [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty kidnaps Elie to rape her]].
** [[AxCrazy Shakuma Raregroove Raregroove]] is the former [[SorcerousOverlord sorcerer-king]] of Raregroove and by far the most [[{{Sadist}} evil member member]] of his family. He started a war with the kingdom of Symphonia [[ForTheEvulz purely for fun]], destroying both countries and all their citizens. He killed Haru's grandfather, the king of Symphonia, with a deadly curse. He abondoned his son (King) Gale so he would spend his life enduring so much suffering until he became a world-destroying nihilist. He allows his magical student Haja to initially believe that he merely wants to take over the world, before killing him and revealing that his true plan is to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy all of reality]] out of nothing more than hatred and sadism.[[{{sadist}} sadism]].
8th Aug '14 4:19:55 PM Morgenthaler
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* CompleteMonster: Ogre, the only BigBad character who didn't have a FreudianExcuse. [[spoiler: He stole the Silver Ray, reveling in the fact he ruined its creator, Reina's father's reputation and made her life hell as a result]]. Plus his lust for women is portrayed very negatively.
** Slade even moreso. Remember him? He was that guy who was introduced during King's StartOfDarkness and died by the end of the flashback. Yeah. He's personally responsible for both King and Lucia's BigBad status. In other words, for a ''[[AmbitionIsEvil promotion]]'' (which he doesn't even live to enjoy, thankfully) he screwed over a decent guy who happened to have turned to the wrong source, and a ''six year old child'' whose only crime was being the former's son.
** Shakuma. While, given that [[spoiler: he's a Raregroove]], he probably had a FreudianExcuse, we never got to hear it. Instead, all we know is that he's personally responsible for [[spoiler: the destruction of Raregroove and Symphonia, as well as all the citizens. He also placed a curse on Haru's grandfather out of spite, a curse that to an unsuspecting victim is an incurable disease out of spite, and deeply enjoyed it, and the reason he went to war with the Symphonians is because it was a game]]. Like most of the later villains, he views the universe he lives in [[spoiler: one that was created by the time warping of an apocalypse survivor who is ironically his ancestor]] to be false and must destroyed. Also, he was never there when King [[spoiler: his own son]] was suffering, and you'd think he would be more protective of his [[spoiler: family]].

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* CompleteMonster: Ogre, the only BigBad character who didn't have CompleteMonster:
** Ogre is
a FreudianExcuse. [[spoiler: psychopathic [[TheBrute brute]] defined by his violence, lust and thirst for power. He stole steals a giant battleship called the Silver Ray, reveling in destroying the fact he ruined its creator, Reina's father's reputation of its creator and made her life hell using it to try to annihilate an entire continent. The [[HairTriggerTemper hot-tempered]] Ogre will frequently fly into a rage and go on killing sprees of anyone in sight, as a result]]. Plus well as [[BadBoss sacrifice his lust for minions]] without a second thought. Additionally, he plans to turn every women is portrayed very negatively.
** Slade even moreso. Remember him? He was that guy who was introduced during King's StartOfDarkness and died by
in the end of world into a sex slave, as well as [[IhaveYouNowMyPretty kidnaps Elie to rape her]].
** Shakuma Raregroove is
the flashback. Yeah. He's personally responsible for both King and Lucia's BigBad status. In other words, for a ''[[AmbitionIsEvil promotion]]'' (which he doesn't even live to enjoy, thankfully) he screwed over a decent guy who happened to have turned to the wrong source, and a ''six year old child'' whose only crime was being the former's son.
** Shakuma. While, given that [[spoiler: he's a Raregroove]], he probably had a FreudianExcuse, we never got to hear it. Instead, all we know is that he's personally responsible for [[spoiler: the destruction
former [[SorcerousOverlord sorcerer-king]] of Raregroove and Symphonia, as well as by far the most evil member of his family. He started a war with the kingdom of Symphonia [[ForTheEvulz purely for fun]], destroying both countries and all the their citizens. He also placed a curse on killed Haru's grandfather out of spite, a curse that to an unsuspecting victim is an incurable disease out of spite, and deeply enjoyed it, and grandfather, the reason he went to war king of Symphonia, with the Symphonians is because it was a game]]. Like most of the later villains, he views the universe he lives in [[spoiler: one that was created by the time warping of an apocalypse survivor who is ironically deadly curse. He abondoned his ancestor]] to be false and must destroyed. Also, he was never there when King [[spoiler: his own son]] was suffering, and you'd think son (King) Gale so he would be spend his life enduring so much suffering until he became a world-destroying nihilist. He allows his magical student Haja to initially believe that he merely wants to take over the world, before killing him and revealing that his true plan is to [[OmnicidalManiac destroy all of reality]] out of nothing more protective of his [[spoiler: family]]. than hatred and sadism.
19th May '14 12:59:33 AM Discontent
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* NeedsMoreLove



** Also the Ten Commandments > the Ten Powers. Less grand, but more fitting.

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** Also the Ten Commandments > the Ten Powers. Less grand, but more fitting.fitting.
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16th Feb '14 9:55:35 AM Ecclytennysmithylove
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* NeedsMoreLove



* TheProducerThinksOfEverything: The first volume's cover already had King and Lucia. Futhermore, in the first chapter Shiba wonders where he first heard Haru's name. Thirty volumes later... [[spoiler:Haru travels to the past and Elie yells his name in front of a young Shiba.]]



* TheScrappy: Griff has no skills except being a navigator, which is by itself is useless since they travel to areas [[spoiler: and later other realms]] that makes those skills useless. Aside from his CovertPervert traits, he [[TheLoad has no skills to offer the group]]. And [[spoiler: [[SenselessSacrifice ruins a villainous moment for Julius by returning to life which just screams Ass Pull]]]].



* TheScrappy: Griff has no skills except being a navigator, which is by itself is useless since they travel to areas [[spoiler: and later other realms]] that makes those skills useless. Aside from his CovertPervert traits, he [[TheLoad has no skills to offer the group]]. And [[spoiler: [[SenselessSacrifice ruins a villainous moment for Julius by returning to life which just screams Ass Pull]]]].



* TheProducerThinksOfEverything: The first volume's cover already had King and Lucia. Futhermore, in the first chapter Shiba wonders where he first heard Haru's name. Thirty volumes later... [[spoiler:Haru travels to the past and Elie yells his name in front of a young Shiba.]]
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