Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* AssPull: Regardless of it being first being brought up in [[ComicBook/RatchetAndClankComic the preceding comic]], the reveal that Lawrence teleported Dr. Nefarious away before his space station exploded at the end of ''[[VideoGame/RatchetAndClankFutureACrackInTime A Crack in Time]]'' is still a huge retcon that didn't sit well even with the fans who were excited to see him return. Not only was it not foreshadowed in the prior game at all, it also [[OutOfCharacterMoment doesn't even make sense]] considering it had been well-established that Lawrence held great disdain for the doctor and only stuck around to collect a paycheck (something that's even brought up in this very game). Series writer T.J. Fixman ''did'' write the previous game's ending with Nefarious' death in mind, but ExecutiveMeddling forced him to undo it regardless.
to:
* AssPull: Regardless of it being first being brought up in [[ComicBook/RatchetAndClankComic the preceding comic]], the reveal that Lawrence teleported Dr. Nefarious away before his space station exploded at the end of ''[[VideoGame/RatchetAndClankFutureACrackInTime A Crack in Time]]'' is still a huge retcon that didn't sit well even with the fans who were excited to see him return. Not only was it not foreshadowed in the prior game at all, it also [[OutOfCharacterMoment doesn't even make sense]] considering it had been well-established that Lawrence held great disdain for the doctor and only stuck around to collect a paycheck (something that's even brought up in this very game). Series Unfortunately this was an unavoidable outcome as series writer T.J. Fixman ''did'' write the previous game's ending with Nefarious' death in mind, but ExecutiveMeddling forced him to undo it regardless.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* AssPull: Regardless of it being first being brought up in [[ComicBook/RatchetAndClankComic the preceding comic]], the reveal that Lawrence teleported Dr. Nefarious away before his space station exploded at the end of ''[[VideoGame/RatchetAndClankFutureACrackInTime A Crack in Time]]'' is still a huge retcon that didn't sit well even with the fans who were excited to see him return. Not only was it not foreshadowed in the prior game at all, it also [[OutOfCharacterMoment doesn't even make sense]] considering it had been well-established that Lawrence held great disdain for the doctor and only stuck around to collect a paycheck (something that's even brought up in this very game). Unfortunately a JustifiedTrope, however, as series writer T.J. Fixman ''did'' write the previous game's ending with Nefarious' death in mind, but ExecutiveMeddling forced him to undo it regardless.
to:
* AssPull: Regardless of it being first being brought up in [[ComicBook/RatchetAndClankComic the preceding comic]], the reveal that Lawrence teleported Dr. Nefarious away before his space station exploded at the end of ''[[VideoGame/RatchetAndClankFutureACrackInTime A Crack in Time]]'' is still a huge retcon that didn't sit well even with the fans who were excited to see him return. Not only was it not foreshadowed in the prior game at all, it also [[OutOfCharacterMoment doesn't even make sense]] considering it had been well-established that Lawrence held great disdain for the doctor and only stuck around to collect a paycheck (something that's even brought up in this very game). Unfortunately a JustifiedTrope, however, as series Series writer T.J. Fixman ''did'' write the previous game's ending with Nefarious' death in mind, but ExecutiveMeddling forced him to undo it regardless.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added example(s)
Added DiffLines:
* AssPull: Regardless of it being first being brought up in [[ComicBook/RatchetAndClankComic the preceding comic]], the reveal that Lawrence teleported Dr. Nefarious away before his space station exploded at the end of ''[[VideoGame/RatchetAndClankFutureACrackInTime A Crack in Time]]'' is still a huge retcon that didn't sit well even with the fans who were excited to see him return. Not only was it not foreshadowed in the prior game at all, it also [[OutOfCharacterMoment doesn't even make sense]] considering it had been well-established that Lawrence held great disdain for the doctor and only stuck around to collect a paycheck (something that's even brought up in this very game). Unfortunately a JustifiedTrope, however, as series writer T.J. Fixman ''did'' write the previous game's ending with Nefarious' death in mind, but ExecutiveMeddling forced him to undo it regardless.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Foe Yay has been cut
Deleted line(s) 2 (click to see context) :
* FoeYay: There seems to be some between Qwark and Nefarious, and Clank seems awfully eager to work with the good doctor as well.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* CompleteMonster: [[TheDogWasTheMastermind The Loki Master]] is the true mastermind of the Collectors. Hailing from a destroyed planet, the Loki Master arrived on planet Magnus and possessed the body of Mr. Dinkles, the eventual pet of Dr. Frumpus Croid. Betraying Croid, the Master took his colleague Nevo as a hostage, threatening his life to have him work for the Loki Master. Stealing dangerous creatures from throughout the galaxy, the Loki Master dumped them on Magnus, altering various habitats to suit them better, devastating the ecosystem while also having its Collectors terrorize the inhabitants of the planet to keep them in line for over a hundred years. Its master plan is to use Croid's technology to force its own and its fellow Lokis beings into more dangerous creatures with the goal of leaving Magnus and [[OmnicidalManiac ripping the universe apart]] until there is only dust left.
to:
* CompleteMonster: [[TheDogWasTheMastermind [[spoiler:[[TheDogWasTheMastermind The Loki Master]] is the true mastermind of the Collectors. Hailing from a destroyed planet, the Loki Master arrived on planet Magnus and possessed the body of Mr. Dinkles, the eventual pet of Dr. Frumpus Croid. Betraying Croid, the Master took his colleague Nevo as a hostage, threatening his life to have him work for the Loki Master. Stealing dangerous creatures from throughout the galaxy, the Loki Master dumped them on Magnus, altering various habitats to suit them better, devastating the ecosystem while also having its Collectors terrorize the inhabitants of the planet to keep them in line for over a hundred years. Its master plan is to use Croid's technology to force its own and its fellow Lokis beings into more dangerous creatures with the goal of leaving Magnus and [[OmnicidalManiac ripping the universe apart]] until there is only dust left.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad The Loki Master]] is the [[TheDogWasTheMastermind true mastermind]] of the Collectors. Hailing from a destroyed planet, the Loki Master arrived on planet Magnus and possessed the body of Mr. Dinkles, the eventual pet of Dr Croid. Betraying Croid, the Master took his colleague Nevo as a hostage, threatening his life to have him work for the Master. Stealing dangerous creatures from throughout the galaxy, the Loki Master dumped them on Magnus, altering various habitats to suit them better, devastating the ecosystem while also having its Collectors terrorize the inhabitants of the planet to keep them in line for over a hundred years. Its master plan is to use Croid's technology to force its own and its fellow Loki's beings into more dangerous creatures with the goal of leaving Magnus and [[OmnicidalManiac ripping the universe apart]] until there is only dust left.
to:
* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad [[TheDogWasTheMastermind The Loki Master]] is the [[TheDogWasTheMastermind true mastermind]] mastermind of the Collectors. Hailing from a destroyed planet, the Loki Master arrived on planet Magnus and possessed the body of Mr. Dinkles, the eventual pet of Dr Dr. Frumpus Croid. Betraying Croid, the Master took his colleague Nevo as a hostage, threatening his life to have him work for the Loki Master. Stealing dangerous creatures from throughout the galaxy, the Loki Master dumped them on Magnus, altering various habitats to suit them better, devastating the ecosystem while also having its Collectors terrorize the inhabitants of the planet to keep them in line for over a hundred years. Its master plan is to use Croid's technology to force its own and its fellow Loki's Lokis beings into more dangerous creatures with the goal of leaving Magnus and [[OmnicidalManiac ripping the universe apart]] until there is only dust left.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* CompleteMonster: The Loki Master is the true mastermind of the Collectors. Hailing from a destroyed planet, the Loki Master arrived on planet Magnus possessed the body of Mr Dinkles, the eventual pet of Dr Croid. Betraying Croid, the Master took his colleague Nevo as a hostage, threatening his life to have him work for the Master. Stealing dangerous creatures from throughout the galaxy, the Loki Master dumped them on Magnus, altering various habitats to suit them better, devastating the ecosystem while also having its Collectors terrorise the inhabitants of the planet to keep them in line for over a hundred years. Its master plan is to use Croid's technology to force its own and its fellow Loki's beings into more dangerous creatures with the goal of leaving Magnus and ripping the universe apart until there is only dust left.
to:
* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad The Loki Master Master]] is the [[TheDogWasTheMastermind true mastermind mastermind]] of the Collectors. Hailing from a destroyed planet, the Loki Master arrived on planet Magnus and possessed the body of Mr Mr. Dinkles, the eventual pet of Dr Croid. Betraying Croid, the Master took his colleague Nevo as a hostage, threatening his life to have him work for the Master. Stealing dangerous creatures from throughout the galaxy, the Loki Master dumped them on Magnus, altering various habitats to suit them better, devastating the ecosystem while also having its Collectors terrorise terrorize the inhabitants of the planet to keep them in line for over a hundred years. Its master plan is to use Croid's technology to force its own and its fellow Loki's beings into more dangerous creatures with the goal of leaving Magnus and [[OmnicidalManiac ripping the universe apart apart]] until there is only dust left. left.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Approved by the thread.
Added DiffLines:
*CompleteMonster: The Loki Master is the true mastermind of the Collectors. Hailing from a destroyed planet, the Loki Master arrived on planet Magnus possessed the body of Mr Dinkles, the eventual pet of Dr Croid. Betraying Croid, the Master took his colleague Nevo as a hostage, threatening his life to have him work for the Master. Stealing dangerous creatures from throughout the galaxy, the Loki Master dumped them on Magnus, altering various habitats to suit them better, devastating the ecosystem while also having its Collectors terrorise the inhabitants of the planet to keep them in line for over a hundred years. Its master plan is to use Croid's technology to force its own and its fellow Loki's beings into more dangerous creatures with the goal of leaving Magnus and ripping the universe apart until there is only dust left.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* FridgeBrilliance: When Ratchet asks [[AlmightyJanitor The Plumber]] if he has any CrypticAdvice on how to beat [[spoiler: Nevo]], he say he doesn't have that kind of advice, and then gives a knowing wink. [[spoiler: This is {{Foreshadowing}} of who the [[BaitAndSwitchBoss real villain]] is]].
to:
* FridgeBrilliance: When Ratchet asks [[AlmightyJanitor The Plumber]] if he has any CrypticAdvice cryptic advice on how to beat [[spoiler: Nevo]], he say he doesn't have that kind of advice, and then gives a knowing wink. [[spoiler: This is {{Foreshadowing}} of who the [[BaitAndSwitchBoss real villain]] is]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Has nothing to do with familiarity with in-universe fiction.
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* FridgeBrilliance: When [[GenreSavvy Ratchet]] asks [[AlmightyJanitor The Plumber]] if he has any CrypticAdvice on how to beat [[spoiler: Nevo]], he say he doesn't have that kind of advice, and then gives a knowing wink. [[spoiler: This is {{Foreshadowing}} of who the [[BaitAndSwitchBoss real villain]] is]].
to:
* FridgeBrilliance: When [[GenreSavvy Ratchet]] Ratchet asks [[AlmightyJanitor The Plumber]] if he has any CrypticAdvice on how to beat [[spoiler: Nevo]], he say he doesn't have that kind of advice, and then gives a knowing wink. [[spoiler: This is {{Foreshadowing}} of who the [[BaitAndSwitchBoss real villain]] is]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* FridgeBrilliance: When [[GenreSavvy Ratchet]] asks [[AlmightyJanitor The Plumber]] if he has any CrypticAdvice on how to beat [[spoiler: Nevo]], he say he doesn't have that kind of advice, and then gives a knowing wink. [[spoiler: This is a {{Foreshadowing}} of who the [[BaitAndSwitchBoss real villain]] is]].
to:
* FridgeBrilliance: When [[GenreSavvy Ratchet]] asks [[AlmightyJanitor The Plumber]] if he has any CrypticAdvice on how to beat [[spoiler: Nevo]], he say he doesn't have that kind of advice, and then gives a knowing wink. [[spoiler: This is a {{Foreshadowing}} of who the [[BaitAndSwitchBoss real villain]] is]].
Added DiffLines:
* SoOkayItsAverage: General consensus appears to be that it's actually not bad and is fairly funny, but the plot is cliche and it doesn't feel very much like a ''Ratchet & Clank'' game due to the drastically different gameplay style.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* FridgeBrilliance: When [[GenreSavvy Ratchet]] asks [[AlmightyJanitor The Plumber]] if he has any CrypticAdvice on how to beat [[spoiler: Nevo]], he say he doesn't have that kind of advice, and then gives a knowing wink. [[spoiler: This is a {{Foreshadowing}} of who the [[BaitAndSwitchBoss real villain]] is]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* {{Sequelitis}}: ''All 4 One'' isn't well-loved among fans for focusing on multiplayer and a smaller plot compared to all the games preceding it, and being the first game released [[ToughActToFollow after]] ''A Crack in Time''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Alphabetical order.
Changed line(s) 1,2 (click to see context) from:
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The co-op focus and lack of camera controls and proper platforming sections may very well offend long-time fans of the series.
* FoeYay: There seems to be some between Qwark and Nefarious, and Clank seems awfully eager to work with the good doctor as well.
* FoeYay: There seems to be some between Qwark and Nefarious, and Clank seems awfully eager to work with the good doctor as well.
to:
* FoeYay: There seems to be some between Qwark and Nefarious, and Clank seems awfully eager to work with the good doctor as well.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The co-op focus and lack of camera controls and proper platforming sections may very well offend long-time fans of theseries.
* FoeYay: There seems to be some between Qwark and Nefarious, and Clank seems awfully eager to work with the good doctor as well.series.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The co-op focus and lack of camera controls and proper platforming sections may very well offend long-time fans of the
* FoeYay: There seems to be some between Qwark and Nefarious, and Clank seems awfully eager to work with the good doctor as well.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1 (click to see context) from:
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The co-op focus and lack of camera controls and proper platforming sections may very well offend long-time fans of the series.
to:
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The co-op focus and lack of camera controls and proper platforming sections may very well offend long-time fans of the series.series.
* FoeYay: There seems to be some between Qwark and Nefarious, and Clank seems awfully eager to work with the good doctor as well.
* FoeYay: There seems to be some between Qwark and Nefarious, and Clank seems awfully eager to work with the good doctor as well.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1,3 (click to see context) from:
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The co-op focus and lack of camera controls and proper platforming sections may very well offend long-time fans of the series.
* JumpedTheShark / BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Ratchet and Clank have both [[ChronicHeroSyndrome saved the galaxy something like 6 times]]. And then the game is making a ButtMonkey out of Ratchet with a [[CloudCuckooLander senile doctor]] who claims to be a [[BlatantLies Lombax Whisperer]], despite both speaking perfectly intelligible English or in-universe Common. It's supposed to be funny, but [[FridgeLogic consider the fact that Ratchet doesn't speak Lombax]] on account of being [[ParentalAbandonment sent away from his home planet Fastoon when the Cragmites invaded]].
** This definitely belongs in the YMMV tab, but those are the wrong tropes. KickTheDog doesn't exactly fit since Croid didn't really mean anything by it (and we can respect the fact that he's insane), but the only other thing that comes to mind is TheWoobie, and that's not right either.
* JumpedTheShark / BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Ratchet and Clank have both [[ChronicHeroSyndrome saved the galaxy something like 6 times]]. And then the game is making a ButtMonkey out of Ratchet with a [[CloudCuckooLander senile doctor]] who claims to be a [[BlatantLies Lombax Whisperer]], despite both speaking perfectly intelligible English or in-universe Common. It's supposed to be funny, but [[FridgeLogic consider the fact that Ratchet doesn't speak Lombax]] on account of being [[ParentalAbandonment sent away from his home planet Fastoon when the Cragmites invaded]].
** This definitely belongs in the YMMV tab, but those are the wrong tropes. KickTheDog doesn't exactly fit since Croid didn't really mean anything by it (and we can respect the fact that he's insane), but the only other thing that comes to mind is TheWoobie, and that's not right either.
to:
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The co-op focus and lack of camera controls and proper platforming sections may very well offend long-time fans of the series.
* JumpedTheShark / BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Ratchet and Clank have both [[ChronicHeroSyndrome saved the galaxy something like 6 times]]. And then the game is making a ButtMonkey out of Ratchet with a [[CloudCuckooLander senile doctor]] who claims to be a [[BlatantLies Lombax Whisperer]], despite both speaking perfectly intelligible English or in-universe Common. It's supposed to be funny, but [[FridgeLogic consider the fact that Ratchet doesn't speak Lombax]] on account of being [[ParentalAbandonment sent away from his home planet Fastoon when the Cragmites invaded]].
** This definitely belongs in the YMMV tab, but those are the wrong tropes. KickTheDog doesn't exactly fit since Croid didn't really mean anything by it (and we can respect the fact that he's insane), but the only other thing that comes to mind is TheWoobie, and that's not right either.series.
* JumpedTheShark / BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Ratchet and Clank have both [[ChronicHeroSyndrome saved the galaxy something like 6 times]]. And then the game is making a ButtMonkey out of Ratchet with a [[CloudCuckooLander senile doctor]] who claims to be a [[BlatantLies Lombax Whisperer]], despite both speaking perfectly intelligible English or in-universe Common. It's supposed to be funny, but [[FridgeLogic consider the fact that Ratchet doesn't speak Lombax]] on account of being [[ParentalAbandonment sent away from his home planet Fastoon when the Cragmites invaded]].
** This definitely belongs in the YMMV tab, but those are the wrong tropes. KickTheDog doesn't exactly fit since Croid didn't really mean anything by it (and we can respect the fact that he's insane), but the only other thing that comes to mind is TheWoobie, and that's not right either.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 2 (click to see context) from:
* JumpedTheShark / BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Ratchet and Clank have both [[ChronicHeroSyndrome saved the galaxy something like 6 times]]. And then the game is making a ButtMonkey out of Ratchet with a [[CloudCuckooLander senile doctor]] who claims to be a [[BlatantLies Lombax Whisperer]], despite both speaking perfectly intelligible English or in-universe Common. It's supposed to be funny, but [[FridgeLogic consider the fact that Ratchet doesn't speak Lombax]] on account of being [[ParentalAbandonment sent away from his home planet Fastoon when the Cragmites invaded]].
to:
* JumpedTheShark / BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Ratchet and Clank have both [[ChronicHeroSyndrome saved the galaxy something like 6 times]]. And then the game is making a ButtMonkey out of Ratchet with a [[CloudCuckooLander senile doctor]] who claims to be a [[BlatantLies Lombax Whisperer]], despite both speaking perfectly intelligible English or in-universe Common. It's supposed to be funny, but [[FridgeLogic consider the fact that Ratchet doesn't speak Lombax]] on account of being [[ParentalAbandonment sent away from his home planet Fastoon when the Cragmites invaded]].invaded]].
** This definitely belongs in the YMMV tab, but those are the wrong tropes. KickTheDog doesn't exactly fit since Croid didn't really mean anything by it (and we can respect the fact that he's insane), but the only other thing that comes to mind is TheWoobie, and that's not right either.
** This definitely belongs in the YMMV tab, but those are the wrong tropes. KickTheDog doesn't exactly fit since Croid didn't really mean anything by it (and we can respect the fact that he's insane), but the only other thing that comes to mind is TheWoobie, and that's not right either.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 1,2 (click to see context) from:
TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The co-op focus and lack of camera controls and proper platforming sections may very well offend long-time fans of the series.
JumpedTheShark / BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Ratchet and Clank have both [[ChronicHeroSyndrome saved the galaxy something like 6 times]]. And then the game is making a ButtMonkey out of Ratchet with a [[CloudCuckooLander senile doctor]] who claims to be a [[BlatantLies Lombax Whisperer]], despite both speaking perfectly intelligible English or in-universe Common. It's supposed to be funny, but [[FridgeLogic consider the fact that Ratchet doesn't speak Lombax]] on account of being [[ParentalAbandonment sent away from his home planet Fastoon when the Cragmites invaded]].
JumpedTheShark / BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Ratchet and Clank have both [[ChronicHeroSyndrome saved the galaxy something like 6 times]]. And then the game is making a ButtMonkey out of Ratchet with a [[CloudCuckooLander senile doctor]] who claims to be a [[BlatantLies Lombax Whisperer]], despite both speaking perfectly intelligible English or in-universe Common. It's supposed to be funny, but [[FridgeLogic consider the fact that Ratchet doesn't speak Lombax]] on account of being [[ParentalAbandonment sent away from his home planet Fastoon when the Cragmites invaded]].
to:
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The co-op focus and lack of camera controls and proper platforming sections may very well offend long-time fans of the series.
* JumpedTheShark / BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Ratchet and Clank have both [[ChronicHeroSyndrome saved the galaxy something like 6 times]]. And then the game is making a ButtMonkey out of Ratchet with a [[CloudCuckooLander senile doctor]] who claims to be a [[BlatantLies Lombax Whisperer]], despite both speaking perfectly intelligible English or in-universe Common. It's supposed to be funny, but [[FridgeLogic consider the fact that Ratchet doesn't speak Lombax]] on account of being [[ParentalAbandonment sent away from his home planet Fastoon when the Cragmites invaded]].
* JumpedTheShark / BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Ratchet and Clank have both [[ChronicHeroSyndrome saved the galaxy something like 6 times]]. And then the game is making a ButtMonkey out of Ratchet with a [[CloudCuckooLander senile doctor]] who claims to be a [[BlatantLies Lombax Whisperer]], despite both speaking perfectly intelligible English or in-universe Common. It's supposed to be funny, but [[FridgeLogic consider the fact that Ratchet doesn't speak Lombax]] on account of being [[ParentalAbandonment sent away from his home planet Fastoon when the Cragmites invaded]].