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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: [[CrowningMusic/{{Pokemon}} Has its own page]].

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: [[CrowningMusic/{{Pokemon}} [[AwesomeMusic/{{Pokemon}} Has its own page]].
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: [[CrowningMusic/{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} Has its own page]].

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* ''[[YMMV/{{Ptitlemo68jh26}} Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]''

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* ''[[YMMV/{{Ptitlemo68jh26}} Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]''
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** Fighting is strong against Dark. They light up the dark with their ''[[HotBlooded burning hot PASSIOOOOOOOON!!]]''
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** Reshiram and Zekrom are rapidly shaping up to be this in their own right (Kyurem, however, seems to be held back by its typing.) Reshiram in particular teams up with Groudon in much the same way that Palkia teams up with Kyogre (read: the opposing team gets nuked to oblivion.) Meanwhile, Zekrom takes advantage of its physically-biased stats (and Electric-type STAB) to rip the specially-oriented Ubers metagame a new @$$hole.

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** Reshiram and Zekrom are rapidly shaping up to be this in their own right (Kyurem, however, seems to be held back by its typing.) Reshiram in particular teams up with Groudon in much the same way that Palkia teams up with Kyogre (read: the opposing team gets nuked to oblivion.) Meanwhile, Zekrom takes advantage of its physically-biased stats (and Electric-type STAB) to rip the specially-oriented Ubers metagame a new @$$hole.asshole.
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** Zigzagoon. They can learn [[AnIcePerson Icy Wind]], [[ShockAndAwe Thunderbolt]], [[GreenThumb Grass Knot]], [[SoulPower Shadow Ball]], and [[BulletSeed Bullet Seed]]/[[MoreDakka Seed Bomb]]. But don't expect to see people using any of the first four moves in an actual fight, seeing as they operate off of Zigzagoon's far inferior Special Attack stat.

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** Zigzagoon. They can learn [[AnIcePerson Icy Wind]], [[ShockAndAwe Thunderbolt]], [[GreenThumb Grass Knot]], [[SoulPower Shadow Ball]], and [[BulletSeed Bullet Seed]]/[[MoreDakka Seed Bomb]]. But don't expect to see people using any of the first four moves in an actual fight, seeing as they operate off of Zigzagoon's far inferior crappy Special Attack stat.

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** Like Mewtwo, genderless Darkrai is often referred to as male because of its telepathic voice in the anime, and because its counterpart Cresselia is female. Even the [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Darkrai_(movie_10) dubbers of the 10th movie]] were not immune, although Darkrai is clearly labeled as male (along with other legendaries) in the ''[[{{ptitlecm0ohq79}} Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]'' series.

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** Like Mewtwo, genderless Darkrai is often referred to as male because of its telepathic voice in the anime, and because its counterpart Cresselia is female. Even the [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Darkrai_(movie_10) dubbers of the 10th movie]] were not immune, although Darkrai [[KnightofCerebus Darkrai]] is clearly labeled as male (along with other legendaries) in the ''[[{{ptitlecm0ohq79}} Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]'' series.


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** Both Gardevoir and Gothitelle wear "dresses."
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: All of the [[UpdatedRerelease updated rereleases]] and [[VideoGameRemake remakes]] (and to a lesser extent, the first titles in any given generation) have run into a certain amount of these complaints.
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*** This troper thought he looked like Groucho Marx. [[DidNotDoTheResearch Oh wait, Groucho WAS Jewish.]]
*** This troper just thought they look like Mario...

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* DemonicSpiders: Watchog. The entire genus is a walking middle finger to Nuzlockers.

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** It's difficult (if not impossible) to flee from wild Pokémon with high Speed stats without a special item or ability.
** During the first generation, trapping moves like Wrap prevented the opponent from taking ''any'' action, meaning a fast Pokémon could inflict it regularly with the opponent unable to take any action whatsoever. The same applies to Pokémon who could inflict Sleep.
** "Selfdestruct" and "Explosion" actually inflict twice their stated attack power in damage, making them very likely to KO the opponent. There goes your chance for catching it, and all the experience you would have otherwise earned. Are you in an area populated by wild Voltorb or Geodudes? Hope you brought plenty of Revives!
** The Rock-type move "Rollout" hits 3-5 turns in a row and doubles in power every time it hits (85% of the time). Rock is one of the best offensive types, inflicting an additional double damage against the (very common) Flying and Bug types, and resisted only by the (less common) Ground, Fighting, and Steel types.
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Watchog. The entire genus is a walking middle finger to Nuzlockers.



*** AndTheFandomRejoiced: In Gen IV, fan-favorite Blaziken was outclassed competitively by newcomer Infernape in both [[strike:power]] speed and versatility. Come Gen V, Blaziken's Dream World ability, Speed Boost, and a large damage buff to the previously spoony Hi Jump Kick attack, and it's able to ''easily'' surpass Infernape in physical offense capabilities.
**** Blaziken's always been stronger than Infernape, but Infernape's way faster. Speed is crucial in the metagame, so Blaziken usually wound up on the sidelines.

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*** AndTheFandomRejoiced: In Gen IV, fan-favorite Blaziken was outclassed competitively by newcomer Infernape in both [[strike:power]] speed and versatility. Come Gen V, Blaziken's Dream World ability, Speed Boost, and a large damage buff to the previously spoony Hi Jump Kick attack, and it's able to ''easily'' surpass Infernape in physical offense capabilities.
**** *** Blaziken's always been stronger than Infernape, but Infernape's way faster. Speed is crucial in the metagame, so Blaziken usually wound up on the sidelines.



*** Genesect. See CrazyAwesome above.

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*** Genesect. See CrazyAwesome above.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Flareon. It's a literal Firefox!
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** Some Exeggcute have their shells cracked open. In other words, you can see their ''insides''...

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** Even SeriesMascot Pikachu is not immune. Outside of its intended demographic of young children, it has a huge number of fans who love the thing to death, but also [[{{PeripheryHatedom}} has a legion of haters]] who criticize its [[{{TheWesley}} overexposure]] and [[{{TastesLikeDiabetes}} saccharine cuteness]]. A recent IGN Pokémon popularity poll placed Pikachu in a surprising ''48th place'' out of all creatures in the series (to be fair, IGN's demographic consists mostly of young adult male gamers).

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** Even SeriesMascot Pikachu is not immune. Outside of its intended demographic of young children, it has a huge number of fans who love the thing to death, but also [[{{PeripheryHatedom}} has a legion of haters]] who criticize its [[{{TheWesley}} [[{{SpotlightStealingSquad}} overexposure]] and [[{{TastesLikeDiabetes}} saccharine cuteness]]. A recent IGN Pokémon popularity poll placed Pikachu in a surprising ''48th place'' out of all creatures in the series (to be fair, IGN's demographic consists mostly of young adult male gamers).gamers).
** Conkeldurr. While it's an ''extremely'' powerful and useful Pokémon (even competitively), it's generally viewed as (and possibly [[{{Gonk}} designed to be]]) ''extremely'' ugly.
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** Charizard is one of the most recognized and popular Pokémon [[{{GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff}} the Western world]], having recently nabbed 1st place in the IGN popularity poll mentioned above (indicating that it could be the most popular Pokémon among the older male fandom).

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** Charizard is one of the most recognized and popular Pokémon [[{{GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff}} in the Western world]], having recently nabbed 1st place in the IGN popularity poll mentioned above (indicating that it could be the most popular Pokémon among the older male fandom).

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* EnsembleDarkhorse[=/=]GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Charizard is one of the most recognized and popular Pokémon in the Western world, having recently nabbed 1st place in the IGN popularity poll mentioned above (indicating that it could be the most popular Pokémon among the older male fandom).

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* EnsembleDarkhorse[=/=]GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: EnsembleDarkhorse: [[{{LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters}} Naturally]], the series is full of these.
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Charizard is one of the most recognized and popular Pokémon in [[{{GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff}} the Western world, world]], having recently nabbed 1st place in the IGN popularity poll mentioned above (indicating that it could be the most popular Pokémon among the older male fandom).



** Blaziken.

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** Blaziken.Blaziken in Gen III, much like Charizard in Gen I.



** Snivy family. Also known as "Smugleaf".
** Zekrom, ever since ''Black'' and ''White'' were released stateside. So far they're the third pair of games (besides ''Gold''/''Silver'' and their remakes) in which the second version outsold the first, thanks to the second cover-art mascot [[{{YourMileageMayVary}} just being plain]] ''[[{{RuleOfCool}} cooler]].''
** Genesect. See CrazyAwesome above.
** Haxorus is one of the most generally liked non-legendary Pokémon from Generation V.



** Many Pseudo-Legendaries are darkhorses, but the big ones are Tyranitar, metagross, and Garchomp.
** In the first Gen, there were only two useful Bug-types: [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot Ninja raptor mantis]] Scyther and Pinsir. Scyther eventually got an evolution, [[{{Samurai}} Scizor]], which is AwesomeYetPractical.
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** Many Pseudo-Legendaries are darkhorses, but the big ones are Tyranitar, metagross, Metagross, and Garchomp.
Garchomp. Dragonite is a strange case; it seems to be ''more'' popular than the others with fans who grew up with the original games, but ''less'' popular with other fans who deem it too cuddly for a pseudo-legend.
** In the first Gen, there were only two useful Bug-types: [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot Ninja raptor mantis]] Scyther and Pinsir. Pinsir, the former becoming a pretty big darkhorse. Scyther eventually got an evolution, [[{{Samurai}} Scizor]], which is AwesomeYetPractical.
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*** Snivy family. Also known as "Smugleaf".
*** Zekrom, ever since ''Black'' and ''White'' were released stateside. So far they're the third pair of games (besides ''Gold''/''Silver'' and their remakes) in which the second version outsold the first, thanks to the second cover-art mascot [[{{YourMileageMayVary}} just being plain]] ''[[{{RuleOfCool}} cooler]].''
*** Genesect. See CrazyAwesome above.
*** Haxorus is one of the most generally liked non-legendary Pokémon from Generation V. Same goes for Chandelure, especially in Japan (where it recently won a popularity poll). Both are powerful and useful Pokémon with absurdly strong offensive prowess (physical in Haxorus' case, special in Chandelure's case).
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** Many Pseudo-Legendaries are darkhorses, but the big ones are Tyranitar, metagross, and Garchomp.
** In the first Gen, there were only two useful Bug-types: [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot Ninja raptor mantis]] Scyther and Pinsir. Scyther eventually got an evolution, [[{{Samurai}} Scizor]], which is AwesomeYetPractical.
** Black and White introduced a few, as well.
*** A LOT of fans wish [[RidiculouslyCuteCritter Joltik]] was the most well-known Electric-type.
*** Golurk is a freaking SuperRobot!
*** And Braviary is A TRUE AMERICAN EAGLE.

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** Mew. Like Mewtwo. While it doesn't speak, its cute, pink design and the fact that it is referred to as "giving birth" is enough (completely reasonably) to cause a large number of fans to think of it as female.

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** Mew. Like Mewtwo. While it doesn't speak, its cute, pink design and the fact that it is referred to as "giving birth" is enough (completely reasonably) to cause a large number of fans to think of it as female. (A small number of fans also think of it as male due to the masculinity of its clone and also due to its [[{{KoichiYamadera}} voice actor]].)


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** Ash's Pikachu was struck with the biggest case of this, with heated debate over its gender until it was finally confirmed as male 15 years after its debut.
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It\'s called I Liked It Better When It Sucked. No-one liked the imbalances as a Narm Charm or Camp factor, they genuinely enjoyed it.


* ILikedItBetterWhenItSucked: Happens with the FanDumb. There are [[{{Understatement}} some people]] who claim that Generation I had the best gameplay in the series, despite how it had more bugs than Viridian Forest and its gameplay was far from balanced. Remember when [[GameBreaker Psychic and Ice types]] curbstomped everyone because their weaknesses were either broken or uncommon? Yeah... when they were rebalanced and glitches removed, people came up and said they liked the bugs and imbalances ''better'', since it's apparently no fun to play the game without exploiting bugs.
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** Reshiram and Zekrom are genderless, but both of them have masculine voices in the anime, which undoubtedly means they'll be referred to (and thought of) as male. Adding to this confusion, both of them are also thought of as female on occasion; Reshiram has a feminine design according to WordOfGod, while Zekrom has HartmanHips and "cleavage" and also represents ''yin'', which is feminine in mythology.

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** Reshiram and Zekrom are genderless, but both of them have masculine voices in the anime, which undoubtedly means they'll be referred to (and thought of) as male. Adding to this confusion, both of them are also thought of as female on occasion; Reshiram has a feminine design according to WordOfGod, while Zekrom has HartmanHips wide hips and "cleavage" and also represents ''yin'', which is feminine in mythology.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Variation and played straight. ''[[{{Ptitled53fvupl}} Pokémon Special]]'' is far more well-known than any other Pokémon manga, even in its native country ([[NoExportForYou where most manga stay]]), to the point where many consider it to be the official Pokémon manga. Thanks to the late [[{{TheNineties}} 90's Pokémon craze]], the [[Anime/{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} anime]] (specifically the first season) is more well known than the games even to this day, despite the games being one of {{Nintendo}} and Game Freak's biggest franchises and the second biggest gaming franchise '''ever''' and despite the anime having become less ''popular'' than the games.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: Variation and played straight. ''[[{{Ptitled53fvupl}} Pokémon Special]]'' is far more well-known than any other Pokémon manga, even in its native country ([[NoExportForYou where most manga stay]]), to the point where many consider it to be the official Pokémon manga. Thanks to the late [[{{TheNineties}} 90's Pokémon craze]], the [[Anime/{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} anime]] (specifically the first season) is more well known than the games even to this day, despite the games being one of {{Nintendo}} and Game Freak's biggest franchises and the second biggest gaming franchise '''ever''' '''ever''', and despite the anime having become less ''popular'' than the games. games.[[hottip:*:Specifically, the current fandom for the games is bigger than for the anime, but the games haven't even come close to the anime's popularity at its peak. As a result, most mainstream parodies tend to revolve around the anime rather than the games.]]
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Variation and played straight. ''[[{{Ptitled53fvupl}} Pokémon Special]]'' is far more well-known than any other Pokémon manga, even in its native country ([[NoExportForYou where most manga stay]]), to the point where many consider it to be the official Pokémon manga. Thanks to the late 90's Pokémon craze, the [[Anime/{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} anime]] (specifically the first season) is more well known than the games even to this day, despite the games being one of {{Nintendo}} and Game Freak's biggest franchises and the second biggest gaming franchise '''ever''' and despite the anime having become less ''popular'' than the games.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: Variation and played straight. ''[[{{Ptitled53fvupl}} Pokémon Special]]'' is far more well-known than any other Pokémon manga, even in its native country ([[NoExportForYou where most manga stay]]), to the point where many consider it to be the official Pokémon manga. Thanks to the late [[{{TheNineties}} 90's Pokémon craze, craze]], the [[Anime/{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} anime]] (specifically the first season) is more well known than the games even to this day, despite the games being one of {{Nintendo}} and Game Freak's biggest franchises and the second biggest gaming franchise '''ever''' and despite the anime having become less ''popular'' than the games.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Variation and played straight. ''[[{{Ptitled53fvupl}} Pokémon Special]]'' is far more well-known than any other Pokémon manga, even in its native country ([[NoExportForYou where most manga stay]]), to the point where many consider it to be the official Pokémon manga. The [[Anime/{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} anime]] (specifically the first season) is more well known than the games even to this day, despite the games being one of {{Nintendo}} and Game Freak's biggest franchises and the second biggest gaming franchise '''ever''' and despite the anime having become less ''popular'' than the games.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: Variation and played straight. ''[[{{Ptitled53fvupl}} Pokémon Special]]'' is far more well-known than any other Pokémon manga, even in its native country ([[NoExportForYou where most manga stay]]), to the point where many consider it to be the official Pokémon manga. The Thanks to the late 90's Pokémon craze, the [[Anime/{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} anime]] (specifically the first season) is more well known than the games even to this day, despite the games being one of {{Nintendo}} and Game Freak's biggest franchises and the second biggest gaming franchise '''ever''' and despite the anime having become less ''popular'' than the games.
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Variation and played straight. ''[[{{Ptitled53fvupl}} Pokémon Special]]'' is far more well-known than any other Pokémon manga, even in its native country ([[NoExportForYou where most manga stay]]), to the point where many consider it to be the official Pokémon manga. The [[Anime/{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} anime]] is more well known than the games even to this day, despite the games being one of {{Nintendo}} and Game Freak's biggest franchises and the second biggest gaming franchise '''ever'''.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: Variation and played straight. ''[[{{Ptitled53fvupl}} Pokémon Special]]'' is far more well-known than any other Pokémon manga, even in its native country ([[NoExportForYou where most manga stay]]), to the point where many consider it to be the official Pokémon manga. The [[Anime/{{ptitlei015gc004kw4}} anime]] (specifically the first season) is more well known than the games even to this day, despite the games being one of {{Nintendo}} and Game Freak's biggest franchises and the second biggest gaming franchise '''ever'''.'''ever''' and despite the anime having become less ''popular'' than the games.
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** Mr. Mime, Jynx, Probopass and Garbodor are all generally hated by the fandom because of their rather disturbing and unorthodox designs.
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** Gardevoir is a RuleThirtyFour magnet and would often place high in popularity polls.
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** Reshiram and Zekrom are genderless, but both of them have masculine voices in the anime, which undoubtedly means they'll be referred to (and thought of) as male. Adding to this confusion, both of them are also thought of as female on occasion; Reshiram has a feminine design according to WordOfGod, while Zekrom has HartmanHips and "cleavage" and also represents ''yin'', which is feminine in mythology.
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* ''[[YMMV/{{Ptitlem5qiqwn8}} Ruby and Sapphire]]''

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*** What the **** is ''up'' with the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWVbrjVqkBo Tao trio battle theme?!?!?]] Compared to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdmQGeX1NNc previous]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mv8AxBTlJ0 mascot]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db1XootTkRQ&feature=related legendary]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vdXjkWkAg8&feature=related battle]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIt0_zg-NIk&feature=related themes]], it just sounds ''ridiculous''[[hottip:*:While other legendary themes make an effort to sound "epic" or "definitive", the Tao trio uses a dance-like mashup of musical themes from previous games, though to be fair this could have been to contrast the "heroic-ness" of the cover legendary with the sheer evilness of [[spoiler:Ghetsis]], whose boss battle theme is ''much'' more in line with past legendary battle themes]]. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5lZrDOmq9U At least it'll grow on you]] [[EarWorm after]] [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome a]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xp1yDFc8rU while.]]

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*** What the **** is ''up'' with the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWVbrjVqkBo Tao trio battle theme?!?!?]] Compared to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdmQGeX1NNc previous]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mv8AxBTlJ0 mascot]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db1XootTkRQ&feature=related legendary]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vdXjkWkAg8&feature=related battle]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIt0_zg-NIk&feature=related themes]], it just sounds ''ridiculous''[[hottip:*:While other legendary themes make an effort to sound "epic" or "definitive", the Tao trio uses a dance-like mashup of musical themes from previous games, though to be fair this could have been to contrast the "heroic-ness" of the cover legendary with the sheer evilness of [[spoiler:Ghetsis]], Ghetsis, whose boss battle theme is ''much'' more in line with past legendary battle themes]]. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5lZrDOmq9U At least it'll grow on you]] [[EarWorm after]] [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome a]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xp1yDFc8rU while.]]
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*** What the **** is ''up'' with the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWVbrjVqkBo Tao trio battle theme?!?!?]] Compared to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdmQGeX1NNc previous]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mv8AxBTlJ0 mascot]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db1XootTkRQ&feature=related legendary]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vdXjkWkAg8&feature=related battle]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIt0_zg-NIk&feature=related themes]], it just sounds ''ridiculous''. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5lZrDOmq9U At least it'll grow on you]] [[EarWorm after a while.]]

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*** What the **** is ''up'' with the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWVbrjVqkBo Tao trio battle theme?!?!?]] Compared to [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdmQGeX1NNc previous]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mv8AxBTlJ0 mascot]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db1XootTkRQ&feature=related legendary]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vdXjkWkAg8&feature=related battle]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIt0_zg-NIk&feature=related themes]], it just sounds ''ridiculous''.''ridiculous''[[hottip:*:While other legendary themes make an effort to sound "epic" or "definitive", the Tao trio uses a dance-like mashup of musical themes from previous games, though to be fair this could have been to contrast the "heroic-ness" of the cover legendary with the sheer evilness of [[spoiler:Ghetsis]], whose boss battle theme is ''much'' more in line with past legendary battle themes]]. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5lZrDOmq9U At least it'll grow on you]] [[EarWorm after a after]] [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome a]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xp1yDFc8rU while.]]



** Zekrom, ever since ''Black'' and ''White'' were released stateside. So far they're the third pair of games (besides ''Gold''/''Silver'' and their remakes) in which the second version outsold the first, thanks to the second mascot [[{{YourMileageMayVary}} just being plain]] ''[[{{RuleOfCool}} cooler]].''

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* EnsembleDarkhorse[=/=]GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Charizard is one of the most recognized and popular Pokémon in the Western world.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse[=/=]GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Charizard is one of the most recognized and popular Pokémon in the Western world.world, having recently nabbed 1st place in the IGN popularity poll mentioned above (indicating that it could be the most popular Pokémon among the older male fandom).
** Mewtwo is also extremely popular, especially among said older male demographic. Being the original ultimate Pokémon definitely helps.



** Clefairy was originally meant to be the mascot of the franchise, but Pikachu got a better reception, up to the point of becoming...
*** BaseBreaker: Yeah, it reached a point where people cannot stand the yellow rodent.

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** Pikachu, natch. Clefairy was originally meant to be the mascot of the franchise, but Pikachu got a better reception, up to the point of becoming...
*** BaseBreaker: Yeah, it reached a point where people cannot stand the yellow rodent. (See above)



** Lugia is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more popular than Ho-Oh.

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** Lugia is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more popular than its counterpart Ho-Oh.



** Zekrom, ever since ''Black'' and ''White'' were released stateside. So far they're the third pair of games (besides ''Gold''/''Silver'' and their remakes) in which the second version outsold the first, thanks to the second mascot [[{{YourMileageMayVary}} just being plain]] ''[[{{RuleOfCool}} cooler]].''



** Haxorus is one of the most generally liked non-legendary Pokémon from Generation V.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Pick almost any Pokémon in the whole series and you'll find that it has its share of devoted fans. Although some, such as Charizard, Pikachu, Lucario, and [[{{OlympusMons}} whatever the super powerful legendary of the day is]] immediately come to mind. MemeticMutation also creates quite a few darkhorses, such as Mudkip and "Smugleaf".

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