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Please present all Complete Monster candidates in this thread.


* CompleteMonster: Considering that he's one of the [[DesignatedHero protagonists]], Joey is an unintentional example. A narcissistic, selfish, conceited, callous, dishonest, and insensitive little prick, he will stop at nothing to get his way. He seems like a normal {{Jerkass}} at first, but the fact that he disowned and laughed off his ''own aunt dying of cancer'' as a perfect timing to go to Maradonia seals the deal on what a little prick this kid truly is.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: Tesch unintentionally made Apollyon more sympathetic than [[DesignatedHero Maya and Joey.]] It doesn't help that he has a [[MemeticMutation 'Club Of Evil']] and [[EvilVirtues believes in teamwork.]] And has a water park.

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Tesch unintentionally made Apollyon more sympathetic than [[DesignatedHero Maya and Joey.]] It doesn't help that he has a [[MemeticMutation 'Club Of Evil']] and [[EvilVirtues believes in teamwork.]] And has a water park. And likes to sing "Mother Earth songs".
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: This book is apparently marketed to young children. And has Joey calling Maya a "dumb shit" and saying "get yo' ass over the damn fence!" [[http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad39/Kawnliee/maradonia1.jpg No, seriously.]]
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* CompleteMonster: Considering that he's one of the [[DesignatedHero proyagonists]], Joey is an unintentional example. A narcissistic, selfish, conceited, callous, dishonest, and insensitive little prick, he will stop at nothing to get his way. He seems like a normal {{Jerkass}} at first, but the fact that he disowned and laughed off his ''own aunt dying of cancer'' as a perfect timing to go to Maradonia seals the deal on what a little prick this kid truly is.

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* CompleteMonster: Considering that he's one of the [[DesignatedHero proyagonists]], protagonists]], Joey is an unintentional example. A narcissistic, selfish, conceited, callous, dishonest, and insensitive little prick, he will stop at nothing to get his way. He seems like a normal {{Jerkass}} at first, but the fact that he disowned and laughed off his ''own aunt dying of cancer'' as a perfect timing to go to Maradonia seals the deal on what a little prick this kid truly is.
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* CompleteMonster: Joey. A narcissistic, selfish, conceited, callous, dishonest, and insensitive little prick, he will stop at nothing to get his way. He seems like a normal {{Jerkass}} at first, but the fact that he disowned and laughed off his ''own aunt dying of cancer'' as a perfect timing to go to Maradonia seals the deal on what a little prick this kid truly is.

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* CompleteMonster: Joey.Considering that he's one of the [[DesignatedHero proyagonists]], Joey is an unintentional example. A narcissistic, selfish, conceited, callous, dishonest, and insensitive little prick, he will stop at nothing to get his way. He seems like a normal {{Jerkass}} at first, but the fact that he disowned and laughed off his ''own aunt dying of cancer'' as a perfect timing to go to Maradonia seals the deal on what a little prick this kid truly is.
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* CompleteMonster: Joey. A narcissistic, selfish, conceited, callous, dishonest, and insensitive little prick, he will stop at nothing to get his way. He seems like a normal {{Jerkass}} at first, but the fact that he disowned and laughed off his ''own aunt dying of cancer'' as a perfect timing to go to Maradonia seals the deal on what a little prick this kid truly is.
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* Didn'tDoTheResearch: One of the main enemies in the series is named Abaddon, and is the son of Apollyon. Both Apollyon and Abaddon are names for the Biblical fiend that will bring about the end times, as the famed lord of the bottomless pit. Now for the fun part: Both names are for the same fiend, just in different languages.
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* SoBadItsGood: Readers have been known to laugh at its quality (or lack thereof)

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* SoBadItsGood: Readers have been known to laugh at its quality (or lack thereof)thereof)
* Didn'tDoTheResearch: One of the main enemies in the series is named Abaddon, and is the son of Apollyon. Both Apollyon and Abaddon are names for the Biblical fiend that will bring about the end times, as the famed lord of the bottomless pit. Now for the fun part: Both names are for the same fiend, just in different languages.
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* CanonSue: Even before they went to Maradonia and became [[BlackHoleSues Black Hole Sues]], Maya and Joey both were pretty bad:

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* CanonSue: Even before they went to Maradonia and became [[BlackHoleSues [[BlackHoleSue Black Hole Sues]], Maya and Joey both were pretty bad:
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* CanonSue: Even before they went to Maradonia and became BlackHoleSues, Maya and Joey both were pretty bad:

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* CanonSue: Even before they went to Maradonia and became BlackHoleSues, [[BlackHoleSues Black Hole Sues]], Maya and Joey both were pretty bad:
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* CanonSue:

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* CanonSue: Even before they went to Maradonia and became BlackHoleSues, Maya and Joey both were pretty bad:



* ProtectionFromEditors: Tesch only writes one draft of each book and ignores all types of criticism.
* RootingForTheEmpire: Tesch unintentionally made Apollyon more sympathetic than [[DesignatedHero Maya and Joey.]] It doesn't help that he has a [[MemeticMutation 'Club Of Evil']] and [[EvilVirtues believes in teamwork.]]
* SoBadItsGood: Readers have been known to laugh at it's quality (or lack thereof)

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* ProtectionFromEditors: Tesch evidently only writes one draft of each book and ignores all types of criticism.
* RootingForTheEmpire: Tesch unintentionally made Apollyon more sympathetic than [[DesignatedHero Maya and Joey.]] It doesn't help that he has a [[MemeticMutation 'Club Of Evil']] and [[EvilVirtues believes in teamwork.]]
]] And has a water park.
* SoBadItsGood: Readers have been known to laugh at it's its quality (or lack thereof)
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* SoBadItsGood / SoBadItsHorrible: Readers have been known to either laugh or cry at it's quality (or lack thereof)

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* SoBadItsGood/SoBadItsHorrible: Readers have been known to either laugh or cry at it's quality (or lack thereof)

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* SoBadItsGood/SoBadItsHorrible: SoBadItsGood / SoBadItsHorrible: Readers have been known to either laugh or cry at it's quality (or lack thereof)
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* SoBadItsGood

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* SoBadItsGoodSoBadItsGood/SoBadItsHorrible: Readers have been known to either laugh or cry at it's quality (or lack thereof)
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this page is ymmv


* SoBadItsGood: {{YMMV}}, of course.

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* SoBadItsGood: {{YMMV}}, of course.SoBadItsGood
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* RootingForTheEmpire: Tesch unintentionally made Apollyon more sympathetic than [[DesignatedHero Maya and Joey.]] It doesn't help that he has a [[MemeticMutation 'Club Of Evil']] and [[EvilVirtues believes in teamwork.]]

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Tesch unintentionally made Apollyon more sympathetic than [[DesignatedHero Maya and Joey.]] It doesn't help that he has a [[MemeticMutation 'Club Of Evil']] and [[EvilVirtues believes in teamwork.]]]]
* SoBadItsGood: {{YMMV}}, of course.
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Non-YMMV put to edit request thread. The Rootin G For The Empire subbullet does not seem to belong there


* RootingForTheEmpire: Tesch unintentionally made Apollyon more sympathetic than [[DesignatedHero Maya and Joey.]] It doesn't help that he has a [[MemeticMutation 'Club Of Evil']] and [[EvilVirtues believes in teamwork.]]
** Don't forget the Mother Earth Hymn Apollyon and his minions sing together at the end of their council sessions.
* SchizoTech: Flying saucers that fire blindness-causing rays and ocean liners co-exist with pre-gunpowder weaponry, horse-drawn vehicles, and a general vaguely late-Medieval/Renaissance atmosphere. Actually, gunpowder (Schwartz Pulver) has been invented by the Big Bads and is used to collapse the walls of castles, but there are no cannons, and the good guys make no attempt to make their own gunpowder. No attempt is made to rationalize any of this.
* TheHighQueen: In the second book, Maradonia and the Gold of Ophir (pre-split edition), Maya becomes Queen of Maradonia and is intended to be this, but her fondness for mass executions without trial puts her more in [[GodSaveUsFromtheQueen God Save Us From the Queen ]]territory.

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Tesch unintentionally made Apollyon more sympathetic than [[DesignatedHero Maya and Joey.]] It doesn't help that he has a [[MemeticMutation 'Club Of Evil']] and [[EvilVirtues believes in teamwork.]]
** Don't forget the Mother Earth Hymn Apollyon and his minions sing together at the end of their council sessions.
* SchizoTech: Flying saucers that fire blindness-causing rays and ocean liners co-exist with pre-gunpowder weaponry, horse-drawn vehicles, and a general vaguely late-Medieval/Renaissance atmosphere. Actually, gunpowder (Schwartz Pulver) has been invented by the Big Bads and is used to collapse the walls of castles, but there are no cannons, and the good guys make no attempt to make their own gunpowder. No attempt is made to rationalize any of this.
* TheHighQueen: In the second book, Maradonia and the Gold of Ophir (pre-split edition), Maya becomes Queen of Maradonia and is intended to be this, but her fondness for mass executions without trial puts her more in [[GodSaveUsFromtheQueen God Save Us From the Queen ]]territory.
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** Don't forget the Mother Earth Hymn Apollyon and his minions sing together at the end of their council sessions.
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Do I really have to say that?! This is about Maradonia Saga, not about Gloria Tesch!


* JerkAss: Gloria herself. ''Come on''. She sneers at a fellow author of her same age in Florida, continually spams Yahoo! answers with lies, [[{{Hypocrite}} steals people's art off of various websites and complains about plagiarism]], and this lovely quote: [[AlphaBitch "Sorry guys, I can't here you over the sound of how awesome I am."]]
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* JerkAss: Gloria herself. ''Come on''. She sneers at a fellow author of her same age in Florida, continually spams Yahoo! answers with lies, [[{{Hypocrite}} steals people's art off of various websites and complains about plaigarism]], and this lovely quote: [[AlphaBitch "Sorry guys, I can't here you over the sound of how awesome I am."]]

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* JerkAss: Gloria herself. ''Come on''. She sneers at a fellow author of her same age in Florida, continually spams Yahoo! answers with lies, [[{{Hypocrite}} steals people's art off of various websites and complains about plaigarism]], plagiarism]], and this lovely quote: [[AlphaBitch "Sorry guys, I can't here you over the sound of how awesome I am."]]
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* ShizoTech: Flying saucers that fire blindness-causing rays and ocean liners co-exist with pre-gunpowder weaponry, horse-drawn vehicles, and a general vaguely late-Medieval/Renaissance atmosphere. Actually, gunpowder (Schwartz Pulver) has been invented by the Big Bads and is used to collapse the walls of castles, but there are no cannons, and the good guys make no attempt to make their own gunpowder. No attempt is made to rationalize any of this.

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* ShizoTech: SchizoTech: Flying saucers that fire blindness-causing rays and ocean liners co-exist with pre-gunpowder weaponry, horse-drawn vehicles, and a general vaguely late-Medieval/Renaissance atmosphere. Actually, gunpowder (Schwartz Pulver) has been invented by the Big Bads and is used to collapse the walls of castles, but there are no cannons, and the good guys make no attempt to make their own gunpowder. No attempt is made to rationalize any of this.
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* ShizoTech: Flying saucers that fire blindness-causing rays and ocean liners co-exist with pre-gunpowder weaponry, horse-drawn vehicles, and a general vaguely late-Medieval/Renaissance atmosphere. Actually, gunpowder (Schwartz Pulver) has been invented by the Big Bads and is used to collapse the walls of castles, but there are no cannons, and the good guys make no attempt to make their own gunpowder. No attempt is made to rationalize any of this.

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* TheHighQueen:
** In the second book, Maradonia and the Gold of Ophir (pre-split edition), Maya becomes Queen of Maradonia and is intended to be this, but her fondness for mass executions without trial puts her more in [[GodSaveUsFromtheQueen God Save Us From the Queen ]]territory.

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* TheHighQueen:
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TheHighQueen: In the second book, Maradonia and the Gold of Ophir (pre-split edition), Maya becomes Queen of Maradonia and is intended to be this, but her fondness for mass executions without trial puts her more in [[GodSaveUsFromtheQueen God Save Us From the Queen ]]territory.
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For completeness.


* JerkAss: Gloria herself. ''Come on''. She sneers at a fellow author of her same age in Florida, continually spams Yahoo! answers with lies, [[{{Hypocrite}} steals people's art off of various websites and complains about plaigarism]], and this lovely quote: [[AlphaBitch "Sorry guys, I can't here you over the sound of how awesome I am."]]

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* JerkAss: Gloria herself. ''Come on''. She sneers at a fellow author of her same age in Florida, continually spams Yahoo! answers with lies, [[{{Hypocrite}} steals people's art off of various websites and complains about plaigarism]], and this lovely quote: [[AlphaBitch "Sorry guys, I can't here you over the sound of how awesome I am."]]"]]
* TheHighQueen:
** In the second book, Maradonia and the Gold of Ophir (pre-split edition), Maya becomes Queen of Maradonia and is intended to be this, but her fondness for mass executions without trial puts her more in [[GodSaveUsFromtheQueen God Save Us From the Queen ]]territory.
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* CanonSue: And how.

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* CanonSue: And how.



* JerkAss: Gloria herself. ''Come on''. She sneers at a fellow author of her same age in Florida, continually spams Yahoo! answers with lies, [[{{Hypocrite}} steals people's art off of various websites and complains about plaigarism]], and this lovely quote: [[TheLibby "Sorry guys, I can't here you over the sound of how awesome I am."]]

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* JerkAss: Gloria herself. ''Come on''. She sneers at a fellow author of her same age in Florida, continually spams Yahoo! answers with lies, [[{{Hypocrite}} steals people's art off of various websites and complains about plaigarism]], and this lovely quote: [[TheLibby [[AlphaBitch "Sorry guys, I can't here you over the sound of how awesome I am."]]
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* Jerk Ass: Gloria herself. ''Come on''. She sneers at a fellow author of her same age in Florida, continually spams Yahoo! answers with lies, [[{{Hypocrite}} steals people's art off of various websites and complains about plaigarism]], and this lovely quote: [[TheLibby "Sorry guys, I can't here you over the sound of how awesome I am."]]

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* Jerk Ass: JerkAss: Gloria herself. ''Come on''. She sneers at a fellow author of her same age in Florida, continually spams Yahoo! answers with lies, [[{{Hypocrite}} steals people's art off of various websites and complains about plaigarism]], and this lovely quote: [[TheLibby "Sorry guys, I can't here you over the sound of how awesome I am."]]
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* RootingForTheEmpire: Tesch unintentionally made Apollyon more sympathetic than [[DesignatedHero Maya and Joey.]] It doesn't help that he has a [[MemeticMutation 'Club Of Evil']] and [[EvilVirtues believes in teamwork.]]

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Tesch unintentionally made Apollyon more sympathetic than [[DesignatedHero Maya and Joey.]] It doesn't help that he has a [[MemeticMutation 'Club Of Evil']] and [[EvilVirtues believes in teamwork.]]]]
* Jerk Ass: Gloria herself. ''Come on''. She sneers at a fellow author of her same age in Florida, continually spams Yahoo! answers with lies, [[{{Hypocrite}} steals people's art off of various websites and complains about plaigarism]], and this lovely quote: [[TheLibby "Sorry guys, I can't here you over the sound of how awesome I am."]]

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* ProtectionFromEditors

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* ProtectionFromEditorsDesignatedHero: Maya and Joey are deemed heroic despite, at best, [[PinballProtagonist doing nothing,]] and at worst, acting sociopathic.
* ProtectionFromEditors: Tesch only writes one draft of each book and ignores all types of criticism.
* RootingForTheEmpire: Tesch unintentionally made Apollyon more sympathetic than [[DesignatedHero Maya and Joey.]] It doesn't help that he has a [[MemeticMutation 'Club Of Evil']] and [[EvilVirtues believes in teamwork.]]
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** Joey, who won an artistic contest and got a visit from a senator.

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** Joey, who won an artistic contest and got a visit from a senator.senator.
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