History YMMV / Lucifer2016

* SeasonalRot: Season 3 saw a drop in quality, with [[EnsembleDarkhorse Maze]] suddenly becoming UnintentionallyUnsympathetic and seeing Chloe and Marcus being StrangledByTheRedString.

** Te scene where Lucifer talked to Richard in "Et tu, Doctor?" appeared to be done on a green screen.

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Downplayed with Maze, who was only a BaseBreakingCharacter during Season 3's airing, but the treatment her character got in Season 4 and 5 was much better received, with genuinely tragic storylines regarding her abandonment issues, need for affection, and bringing a deeper level of worldbuilding and characterisation thanks to [[TheSoulless her]] [[MissingMom backstory]].

** With {{Series/Constantine}}. Both are Vertigo properties with morally ambiguous leads [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold (who are, ultimately, not all bad)]]. It's not at all unusual to see Lucifer/Constantine as a CrossoverShip, complete with BelligerentSexualTension. It became more notable when Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019 had the two meet face to face to reveal they had some kind of history.
** In a broader sense, the UsefulNotes/FurryFandom likes this show if only because of the episode "Boo Normal" which portrayed furries fairly realistically and didn't go for the low-hanging fruit of calling the fandom a bunch of fetish-y freaks like many other shows do, especially in comparision to another Creator/JerryBruckheimer show, Series/{{CSI}} and its much-maligned "Fur and Loathing" episode that did just that.

* CryForTheDevil: Literally, in this case. While he is confident, snarky, and well-off economically, it is implied that his carefree, hedonistic lifestyle is a cover for his history of crippling, existential loneliness over the thousands of years of his existence. This can even be blamed on [the scorn he receives from his angel kin, silence and abandonment from his omnipotent father, and humanity's tendency to blame and demonize him for their own shortcomings.

** The series finale appears to have created another Broken Base. Some fans are content with the Star-CrossedLovers BittersweetEnding; others are disturbed by the YouCan'tFightFate decision made during the last episode(which creates some disturbing implications given the series' debate on God's plan vs. free will) and consider the conclusion a CruelTwistEnding.

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** In a broader sense, the UsefulNotes/FurryFandom likes this show if only because of the episode "Boo Normal" which portrayed furries fairly realistically and didn't go for the low-hanging fruit of calling the fandom a bunch of fetish-y freaks like many other shows do.

* BrokenAesop: From the series finale: It's okay to [[spoiler:abandon your kid, your family and your loved ones to pursue your "calling" (i.e., career)]]. In fact, it's a good thing.

* AcceptableTargets: In "My Brother's Keeper," Lucifer compels a crooked jewellery store owner to tell him her greatest desire, and she reveals that it's to punch every single Millennial in the face. Lucifer admits that he sympathises with that wish.

** [[spoiler:ArchangelMichael, the EvilTwin of [[Characters/Lucifer2016LuciferMorningstar Lucifer Morningstar]], seeks to ruin the latter's life out of petty envy. Michael is the true mastermind behind many actions in Lucifer's life, which include his rebellion against God; visit to the Garden of Eden; and retirement to Los Angeles, having [[ManipulativeBastard manipulated Lucifer into these actions]]. Michael would [[{{Gaslighting}} gaslight]] his father into believing he's losing control of his powers so that he could retire, allowing Michael to [[GodhoodSeeker replace him as God]]. Coming down to Earth to impersonate Lucifer and ruin his life, Michael gives his infant nephew a common cold to exploit his brother Amenadiel's fears about his son's mortality. Assembling the Flaming Sword to force his siblings into helping him become God, Michael would [[SiblingMurder kill his sister Remiel]] with it, [[DeaderThanDead not giving her any afterlife in the process]]. Afterwards, Michael would order the murder of Lucifer's friend Dan so that his ex-wife Chloe would feel guilty about it and go to Hell after her death, which would also make Lucifer return down there for her. In his final battle, Michael would temporarily kill Chloe and try to erase his brother from existence with the Flaming Sword.]]

* EvilIsSexy: Lucifer and Maze, of course, but the former is not quite as evil as he used to be.

* LoveToHate: Michael, whenever fans don't [[DracoInLeatherPants give him a pair of leather pants]]. Despite being a gigantic HateSink, he's pretty much agreed to be one of the best and most enjoyable antagonists in the series, with his slight LaughablyEvil moments definetely helping him claim this status.

* CryForTheDevil: Literally, in this case. While he is confident, snarky, and well-off economically, it is implied that his carefree, hedonistic lifestyle is a cover for his [[spoiler:history of crippling, existential loneliness over the thousands of years of his existence]]. This can even be blamed on [[spoiler:the scorn he receives from his angel kin]], [[spoiler:silence and abandonment from his omnipotent father]], and [[spoiler:humanity's tendency to blame and demonize him for their own shortcomings]].
* DracoInLeatherPants: Michael, in some spaces. Despite having essentially no redeeming qualities displayed, he still gathered some fans which hope for a HeelFaceTurn in Season 6.

* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Lucifer has been shipped with every main character (including Amenadiel) and also with Constantine since his appearance on Series/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths2019.

** Still waiting for Season 5B.[[labelnote:Explanation]]The first half of Season 5 released on August 2020. Since then, the fans started joking about how they are still waiting for the release of the second half.[[/labelnote]]

** [[spoiler:Malcolm Graham]] crosses it when [[spoiler:he kidnaps Trixie and threatens to kill her if he won't get his money]].
** [[spoiler:Goddess]] crosses it when she [[spoiler:unleashes Azrael's Blade into the human populace, ''knowing'' that the Blade would compel all who hold it to violently murder anyone who even ''slightly'' crossed them]]. Then, to make absolutely sure she stays over the line, she [[spoiler:tries to murder Chloe]].

** Julian [=McCaffrey=] crosses it when it's revealed he runs a human trafficking ring.
** After already doing many heinous things throughout the series, [[spoiler:Michael]] officially crosses the line when he [[spoiler:orders Dan's death just so Chloe would feel guilty and go to Hell upon death]].

* BrokenAesop: From the series finale: [[spoiler: It's okay to abandon your kid, your family and your loved ones to pursue your "calling" (i.e., career).]] In fact, it's a good thing.

** [[spoiler:Ella and Dan]] randomly get attracted to one another within the span of a few episodes. It's especially ridiculous because the latter is still [[spoiler:grieving for Charlotte]]. Tellingly, the entire incident appears to have been quietly dropped as it was not mentioned in season five with Ella instead being involved with Pete Daily.

** [[spoiler:Abel]] provided a lot of story opportunities, new and unique dynamics with the cast, and himself had the potential to be an interesting and entertaining character. He's killed off after one episode. The source comics even [[OnlyICanKillHim provide a valid excuse]] to how he could be allowed to stick around, but nope, he's just gone.
** Some viewers believe the show wasted the potential of introducing Michael; instead of the heroic character from the DC comic who's reluctantly opposed to his twin, or the spiritual warrior of Jewish and Christian faith, he's a twisted and scheming plotter who hates Lucifer and wants to ruin his life out of spite. Alternatively other viewers felt that though Michael worked fine as a villain in theory, he simply isn't in enough of Season 5A; [[spoiler:He first shows up at the end of the season premiere and Chloe sees through his deception by the climax of the very next episode; we don't really see him interact with Mazikeen and Dan even as he's turning them against Lucifer; and even in "Spoiler Alert" where his master plan starts coming into play, he's barely in the episode.]]

* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler: [[GoodShepherd Father Frank.]] ]] The man had a ''piano duel with Lucifer'', for crying out loud!

** Rory in Season 6. [[spoiler: Despite the fact that everyone tells her repeatedly that Lucifer is a great person she still decides they all must be lying and that he abandoned her. She then goes back and time to kill him and even as everyone comes up with perfectly reasonable reasons why Lucifer disappeared she still angrily insults Lucifer and everyone for defending him. Not helped that even though she is 40 to 60 years old she acts like a BrattyTeenager for most of the season. Then, just when she realizes her father is a good man, she forces him to abandon her past self and prevent him the joy of being there for her all because she wants to preserve a time loop only she cares about.]]

** Chloe during the fourth season. [[spoiler:After seeing Lucifer's true form,]] she's left reeling and desperately searching for answers. When answers appear to come from [[BitchInSheepsClothing Father Kinley]], she does as he asks in hopes that it will help. However, not only does this involve lying to her partner's face, but also [[spoiler: essentially spying on him and trying to exorcise him and ''send him to Hell'']], despite the fact that Lucifer has been up-front about his identity (human credulity notwithstanding) from the very start. And while Lucifer definitely has a sinister side, he also qualifies as a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who has helped her on her cases since he first met her. Instead of [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-meant]], Chloe comes off as someone who [[spoiler:refused to see the truth until it was quite literally staring her in the face, and then decided to listen to a perfect stranger over someone she had considered a good friend up to that point.]] Then, when she's confronted about her actions, she tries to excuse herself by saying it was [[NeverMyFault only "for a moment".]] Not helping her case is the fact that [[spoiler:Dr. Linda Martin found out earlier (as Maze points out), and ''her'' HeroicBSOD didn't start off a chain of plot-related DisasterDominoes that ultimately found Lucifer back in Hell, a place he ''loathed'' running.]] Her statement in the season finale of being afraid to [[spoiler: lose Lucifer because she loves him]] is another nail in the coffin, given that she decides to tell him about it while a [[spoiler:demon invasion and an attempted babynapping]] is going on, despite the fact that she now knows [[spoiler:she makes Lucifer vulnerable]]. Never mind that a lone, unarmed woman is running around with a baby in a dangerous situation, [[SkewedPriorities that's what really matters!]]

** The series finale appears to be creating one of these. Some fans are content with the StarCrossedLovers BittersweetEnding; others are disturbed by [[spoiler:the YouCantFightFate decision made during the last episode (which creates some disturbing implications given the series' debate on God's plan vs. free will)]] and consider the conclusion a CruelTwistEnding for the protagonists.

** The series finale appears to be creating one of these. Some fans are content with the StarCrossedLovers BittersweetEnding; others are disturbed by the YouCantFightFate decision made during the last episode (which creates some disturbing implications given the series' debate on God's plan vs. free will) and consider the conclusion a CruelTwistEnding for the protagonists.

* GeniusBonus: Tommy Stompanato from "It Never Ends Well for the Chicken" is named after real life gangster Johnny Stompanato, best known for his ignominious death stabbed by the daughter of his girlfriend Lana Turner.

* AuthorsSavingThrow: After all the issues with Chloe mentioned under BaseBreakingCharacter and UnintentionallyUnsympathetic, in Season 5 [[spoiler:she is at long last on top of things from the start, immediately detecting that Michael's performance as Lucifer isn't quite right and just playing along until she finally exposes him after just one episode.]]

** Chloe during the fourth season. [[spoiler:After seeing Lucifer's true form,]] she's left reeling and desperately searching for answers. When answers appear to come from [[BitchInSheepsClothing Father Kinley]], she does as he asks in hopes that it will help. However, not only does this involve lying to her partner's face, but also [[spoiler: essentially spying on him and trying to exorcise him and ''send him to Hell'']], despite the fact that Lucifer has been up-front about his identity (human credulity notwithstanding) from the very start. And while Lucifer definitely has a sinister side, he also qualifies as a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who has helped her on her cases since he first met her. Instead of [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-meant]], Chloe comes off as someone who [[spoiler:refused to see the truth until it was quite literally staring her in the face, and then decided to listen to a perfect stranger over someone she had considered a good friend up to that point.]] Then, when she's confronted about her actions, she tries to excuse herself by saying it was [[NeverMyFault only "for a moment".]] Not helping her case is the fact that [[spoiler:Dr. Linda Martin found out earlier (as Maze points out), and ''her'' HeroicBSOD didn't start off a chain of plot-related DisasterDominoes that ultimately found Lucifer back in Hell, a place he ''loathed'' running.]] Her statement in the Season Finale of being afraid to [[spoiler: lose Lucifer because she loves him]] is another nail in the coffin, given that she decides to tell him about it while a [[spoiler:demon invasion and an attempted babynapping]] is going on, despite the fact that she now knows [[spoiler:she makes Lucifer vulnerable]]. Never mind that a lone, unarmed woman is running around with a baby in a dangerous situation, [[SkewedPriorities that's what really matters!]]
** During season 5b, [[spoiler: Lucifer himself.]] While everything turned out alright in the end, the events orchestrated by [[spoiler:him]] in episode [[spoiler:12 "Daniel Espinoza: Naked and Afraid"]] are far and beyond what can be written off as [[spoiler:a mere prank]] or be justified with [[spoiler:"Payback because my brother tricked you into shooting me once." Dan]]'s reaction to finding out the truth could have realistically been anything from psychotic fury to commiting suicide at the earliest convenience. It's only through sheer luck that [[spoiler:Lucifer]] doesn't end up having to carry around [[spoiler:"accidentally breaking an innocent man's mind entirely out of spite"]] for the rest of [[spoiler:his]] life.

** Chloe during the fourth season. [[spoiler:After seeing Lucifer's true form,]] she's left reeling and desperately searching for answers. When answers appear to come from [[BitchInSheepsClothing Father Kinley]], she does as he asks in hopes that it will help. However, not only does this involve lying to her partner's face, but also [[spoiler: essentially spying on him and trying to exorcise him and ''send him to Hell'']], despite the fact that Lucifer has been up-front about his identity (human credulity notwithstanding) from the very start. And while Lucifer definitely has a sinister side, he also qualifies as a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who has helped her on her cases since he first met her. Instead of [[WellIntentionedExtremist well-meant]], Chloe comes off as someone who [[spoiler:refused to see the truth until it was quite literally staring her in the face, and then decided to listen to a perfect stranger over someone she had considered a good friend up to that point.]] Then, when she's confronted about her actions, she tries to excuse herself by saying it was [[NeverMyFault only "for a moment".]] Not helping her case is the fact that [[spoiler:Dr. Linda Martin found out earlier (as Maze points out), and ''her'' HeroicBSOD didn't start off a chain of plot-related DisasterDominoes that ultimately found Lucifer back in Hell, a place he ''loathed'' running.]] Her statement in the Season Finale of being afraid to [[spoiler: lose Lucifer because she loves him]] is another nail in the coffin, given that she decides to tell him about it while a [[spoiler:demon invasion and an attempted babynapping]] is going on, despite the fact that she now knows [[spoiler:she makes Lucifer vulnerable]]. Never mind that a lone, unarmed woman is running around with a baby in a dangerous situation, [[SkewedPriorities that's what really matters!]]