Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / KingOfThorn

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FridgeBrilliance: At first the thought of a disease that infects your psyche seems quite weird. But consider the stuff you learn about every day. What about memes? What about celebrity or gossips? Or {{EarWorm}}s? How about viral videos? Oh boy. Aren't those basically stimuli which infect human mind and have real-life consequences? Of course some people are immune to certain kinds but nevertheless these thoughts drive many people to do what they do. And sometimes it's just not very healthy. Doesn't that make such thoughts kind of a disease?

to:

* FridgeBrilliance: At first the thought of a disease that infects your psyche seems quite weird. But consider the stuff you learn about every day. What about memes? What about celebrity or gossips? Or {{EarWorm}}s? {{Ear Worm}}s? How about viral videos? Oh boy. Aren't those basically stimuli which infect human mind and have real-life consequences? Of course some people are immune to certain kinds but nevertheless these thoughts drive many people to do what they do. And sometimes it's just not very healthy. Doesn't that make such thoughts kind of a disease?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FridgeBrilliance: At first the thought of a disease that infects your psyche seems quite weird. But consider the stuff you learn about every day. What about memes? What about celebrity or gossips? Or EarWorms? How about viral videos? Oh boy. Aren't those basically stimuli which infect human mind and have real-life consequences? Of course some people are immune to certain kinds but nevertheless these thoughts drive many people to do what they do. And sometimes it's just not very healthy. Doesn't that make such thoughts kind of a disease?

to:

* FridgeBrilliance: At first the thought of a disease that infects your psyche seems quite weird. But consider the stuff you learn about every day. What about memes? What about celebrity or gossips? Or EarWorms? {{EarWorm}}s? How about viral videos? Oh boy. Aren't those basically stimuli which infect human mind and have real-life consequences? Of course some people are immune to certain kinds but nevertheless these thoughts drive many people to do what they do. And sometimes it's just not very healthy. Doesn't that make such thoughts kind of a disease?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FridgeBrilliance: At first the thought of a disease that infects your psyche seems quite weird. But consider the stuff you learn about every day. What about memes? What about celebrity or gossips? Or EarWorms? How about viral videos? Oh boy. Aren't those basically stimuli which infect human mind and have real-life consequences? Of course some people are immune to certain kinds but nevertheless these thoughts drive many people to do what they do. And sometimes it's just not very healthy. Doesn't that make such thoughts kind of a disease?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Most positive reviews of the film gave this note about Sunrise's animation (except by some of the vines, which were noted to be [[ThreeDEffectsTwoDCartoon conspicuous CGI]]).

to:

* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Most positive reviews of the film gave this note about Sunrise's animation (except by some of the vines, which were noted to be [[ThreeDEffectsTwoDCartoon [[TwoDVisualsThreeDEffects conspicuous CGI]]).
Tabs MOD

Changed: 31

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Most positive reviews of the film gave this note about Sunrise's animation (except by some of the vines, which were noted to be ConspicuousCG).

to:

* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Most positive reviews of the film gave this note about Sunrise's animation (except by some of the vines, which were noted to be ConspicuousCG).[[ThreeDEffectsTwoDCartoon conspicuous CGI]]).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* MagnificentBastard: Zeus.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** In the movie, Marco's claim to belong to the "infantery military". ElitesAreMoreGlamorous? Nah, just send a plain soldier to an infiltration mission to save the world.

to:

** In the movie, Marco's claim to belong to the "infantery "infantry military". ElitesAreMoreGlamorous? Nah, just send a plain soldier to an infiltration mission to save the world.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AssPull: In the manga, the revelation that [[spoiler:Kasumi is a Medusa construct created by Shizuki]] comes basically from nowhere. As this was one of the most controversial points of the manga, the movie utilized more {{Foreshadowing}} before revealing it.

to:

* AssPull: In the manga, the revelation that [[spoiler:Kasumi is a Medusa construct created by Shizuki]] Shizuku]] comes basically from nowhere. As this was one of the most controversial points of the manga, series, the movie utilized more {{Foreshadowing}} before revealing it.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Renamed some tropes.


* AwesomeMusic: Toshihiko Sahashi's soundtrack was acknowledged as one of the best points of the movie. The closing theme, "End of the World" by Misia, stands out.

to:

* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Toshihiko Sahashi's soundtrack was acknowledged as one of the best points of the movie. The closing theme, "End of the World" by Misia, stands out.



* CompleteMonster: [[AGodAmI Zeus]], head of security for [[{{cult}} Venus Gate Labs]], is a chaos-loving maniac who gleefully participates in the Venus Gate’s twisted human experiments to harness the power of Medusa. When [[RealityWarper Shizuku's]] powers go out of control, Zeus ensures said powers kill as many people as possible. Zeus then proceeds to turn himself into data, download part of his code into Shizuku, manipulate her powers to murder everyone on the island the Lab is located, then releases an army of monsters onto the Earth to destroy anything they come across. After his old rival, Marco Owens, confronts him, Zeus has him beaten to death and reveals he plans to turn most of humanity into his own "[[MasterRace Zeus Race]]", and then kill any humans left. Zeus then captures [[TheHero Kasumi]] and forces her to watch as he painfully transforms her friends, one of which is a [[WouldHurtAChild child]], into more Zeus Race beasts.

to:

* CompleteMonster: [[AGodAmI Zeus]], head of security for [[{{cult}} [[{{Cult}} Venus Gate Labs]], is a chaos-loving maniac who gleefully participates in the Venus Gate’s twisted human experiments to harness the power of Medusa. When [[RealityWarper Shizuku's]] powers go out of control, Zeus ensures said powers kill as many people as possible. Zeus then proceeds to turn himself into data, download part of his code into Shizuku, manipulate her powers to murder everyone on the island the Lab is located, then releases an army of monsters onto the Earth to destroy anything they come across. After his old rival, Marco Owens, confronts him, Zeus has him beaten to death and reveals he plans to turn most of humanity into his own "[[MasterRace Zeus Race]]", and then kill any humans left. Zeus then captures [[TheHero Kasumi]] and forces her to watch as he painfully transforms her friends, one of which is a [[WouldHurtAChild child]], into more Zeus Race beasts.



* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Most positive reviews of the film gave this note about Sunrise's animation (except by some of the vines, which were noted to be ConspicuousCGI).

to:

* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Most positive reviews of the film gave this note about Sunrise's animation (except by some of the vines, which were noted to be ConspicuousCGI).ConspicuousCG).



** [[BreakTheCutie Kasumi]].

to:

** [[BreakTheCutie Kasumi]].Kasumi.]]

Added: 1557

Changed: 1279

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AssPull: In the manga, the revelation that [[spoiler:Kasumi is a Medusa construct created by Shizuki]] comes basically from nowhere. As this was one of the most controversial points of the manga, the movie utilized more {{Foreshadowing}} before revealing it.
* AwesomeMusic: Toshihiko Sahashi's soundtrack was acknowledged as one of the best points of the movie. The closing theme, "End of the World" by Misia, stands out.
* BrokenBase: Most viewers and critics opined the ''King of Thorn'' anime adaptation was a great film in its own right, with some even pointing out that it resembled more a Hollywood flick than your typical anime movie. However, how it compares to the manga is a breaking point: while some think its synthesized plot is both faithful to and less erratic than the manga's, others believe it doesn't make the manga justice and ruins a few of its highlights by changing so many character backstories and fates.



* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The movie was internationally praised as got nominated as the 2010 Asia Pacific Screen Award for Best Animated Feature Film (although it lost to ''Piercing I'').
* InferredHolocaust: The state of the world outside the island is left deliberately vague, though there is at least ''some'' hope: [[spoiler:Marco points out that other people infected with Medusa would be able to create their own monsters to fight Zeus'.]]
* MagnificentBastard: Zeus
* {{Narm}}: [[spoiler:Catherine transformation. Can you say "chicken breasts?"]]

to:

* CriticalDissonance: Critics praised the movie in plenty, while casual audiences tend to consider it mostly SoOkayItsAverage. This is coincidentally an echo from the original manga, which got some high reviews while never being overtly popular.
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The movie was internationally praised as very well received at the Sitges Film Festival in Spain and got nominated as at the 2010 Asia Pacific Screen Award for Best Animated Feature Film in Australia (although it lost to ''Piercing I'').
* InferredHolocaust: The In the manga, the state of the world outside the island is left deliberately vague, though there is at least ''some'' hope: [[spoiler:Marco points out that other people infected with Medusa would be able to create their own monsters to fight Zeus'.]]
* MagnificentBastard: Zeus
Zeus.
* {{Narm}}: [[spoiler:Catherine {{Narm}}:
** From the manga, [[spoiler:Katherine's
transformation. Can you say "chicken breasts?"]]A giant bird might have do it, and a full fledged harpy monster would have been CreepyAwesome. However, a ''giant bird with human breasts'' is pretty much impossible not to laugh at.]]
** [[spoiler:Zeus, the manga's BigBad, spending all of his scenes wearing a Hawaiian shirt, shorts and flip-flops. His face being drawn in a rather strange style doesn't help.]]
** In the movie, Marco's claim to belong to the "infantery military". ElitesAreMoreGlamorous? Nah, just send a plain soldier to an infiltration mission to save the world.



* TheUntwist: Although it still not easy to guess, the movie uses more {{Foreshadowing}} for [[spoiler:Kasumi's TomatoSurprise revelation]], which in the manga came almost from nowhere.
* TheWoobie: [[BreakTheCutie Kasumi]].

to:

* TheUntwist: Although it still not easy to guess, VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Most positive reviews of the movie uses more {{Foreshadowing}} for [[spoiler:Kasumi's TomatoSurprise revelation]], film gave this note about Sunrise's animation (except by some of the vines, which in the manga came almost from nowhere.
were noted to be ConspicuousCGI).
* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
**
[[BreakTheCutie Kasumi]].

Added: 191

Changed: 260

Removed: 627

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: TheMovie takes quite a few creative liberties with the cast.
** Not only is Marco's motivation and backstory drastically different, but he has the personality of a BoisterousBruiser.
** Likewise, Peter's religious beliefs were never mentioned in the manga, while the movie makes him a devout Christian who's always wearing a [[CreepyCoolCrosses cross pendant]].
** And then there's Tim, a fearful but plucky kid in the manga who is rightfully terrified of the monsters trying to kill him, but in the movie he is barely fazed by all the violence and compares the whole thing to a video game.



* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The movie was internationally praised as got nominated as the 2010 Asia Pacific Screen Award for Best Animated Feature Film (although it lost to ''Piercing I'').



* {{Narm}}: [[spoiler: Catherine transformation, can you say "chicken breasts?"]]

to:

* {{Narm}}: [[spoiler: Catherine transformation, can [[spoiler:Catherine transformation. Can you say "chicken breasts?"]]



* TheUntwist: In the manga, [[spoiler:Kasumi]]'s TomatoSurprise is less set-up and comes across as a lot more surprising. TheMovie uses more {{Foreshadowing}}, so some viewers guessed the twist ahead of time.

to:

* TheUntwist: In Although it still not easy to guess, the manga, [[spoiler:Kasumi]]'s movie uses more {{Foreshadowing}} for [[spoiler:Kasumi's TomatoSurprise is less set-up and comes across as a lot more surprising. TheMovie uses more {{Foreshadowing}}, so some viewers guessed revelation]], which in the twist ahead of time.manga came almost from nowhere.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Approved by the thread.

Added DiffLines:

*CompleteMonster: [[AGodAmI Zeus]], head of security for [[{{cult}} Venus Gate Labs]], is a chaos-loving maniac who gleefully participates in the Venus Gate’s twisted human experiments to harness the power of Medusa. When [[RealityWarper Shizuku's]] powers go out of control, Zeus ensures said powers kill as many people as possible. Zeus then proceeds to turn himself into data, download part of his code into Shizuku, manipulate her powers to murder everyone on the island the Lab is located, then releases an army of monsters onto the Earth to destroy anything they come across. After his old rival, Marco Owens, confronts him, Zeus has him beaten to death and reveals he plans to turn most of humanity into his own "[[MasterRace Zeus Race]]", and then kill any humans left. Zeus then captures [[TheHero Kasumi]] and forces her to watch as he painfully transforms her friends, one of which is a [[WouldHurtAChild child]], into more Zeus Race beasts.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* InferredHolocaust: The state of the world outside the island is left deliberately vague, though there is at least ''some'' hope: [[spoiler:Marco points out that other people infected with Medusa would be able to create their own monsters to fight Zeus's.]]

to:

* InferredHolocaust: The state of the world outside the island is left deliberately vague, though there is at least ''some'' hope: [[spoiler:Marco points out that other people infected with Medusa would be able to create their own monsters to fight Zeus's.Zeus'.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* {{Narm}}: [[spoiler: Catherine transformation, can you say "chicken breasts?"]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TheUntwist: The manga made [[spoiler:Kasumi]]'s TomatoSurprise a lot more surprising, but TheMovie uses so much {{Foreshadowing}} that the surprise is ruined.

to:

* TheUntwist: The manga made In the manga, [[spoiler:Kasumi]]'s TomatoSurprise is less set-up and comes across as a lot more surprising, but surprising. TheMovie uses more {{Foreshadowing}}, so much {{Foreshadowing}} that some viewers guessed the surprise is ruined.twist ahead of time.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* InferredHolocaust: The state of the world outside the island is left deliberately vague, though there is at least ''some'' hope: [[spoiler:Marco points out that other people infected with Medusa would be able to create their own monsters to fight Zeus's.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Not only is Marco's entire motivation and backstory drastically different, but he has the personality of a BoisterousBruiser.

to:

** Not only is Marco's entire motivation and backstory drastically different, but he has the personality of a BoisterousBruiser.



* TheWoobie: [[BreakTheCutie Kasumi]], [[TraumaCongaLine of course]].
** [[IronWoobie Marco]] also qualifies, and special mentions go to [[StoicWoobie Alice]] and [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Shizuku]].

to:

* TheWoobie: [[BreakTheCutie Kasumi]], [[TraumaCongaLine of course]].
Kasumi]].
** [[IronWoobie Marco]] also qualifies, and special mentions go to [[StoicWoobie Alice]] and [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Shizuku]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** For instance, not only is Marco's entire motivation and backstory drastically different, but his personality is more HotBlooded with some LargeHam mixed in.

to:

** For instance, not Not only is Marco's entire motivation and backstory drastically different, but his he has the personality is more HotBlooded with some LargeHam mixed in.of a BoisterousBruiser.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* TheUnreveal: The manga made [[spoiler:Kasumi]]'s TomatoSurprise a lot more surprising, but TheMovie uses so much {{Foreshadowing}} and tosses around so many clues before TheReveal isn't nearly as shocking as it could have been.

to:

* TheUnreveal: TheUntwist: The manga made [[spoiler:Kasumi]]'s TomatoSurprise a lot more surprising, but TheMovie uses so much {{Foreshadowing}} and tosses around so many clues before TheReveal isn't nearly as shocking as it could have been.that the surprise is ruined.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* TheUnreveal: The manga made [[spoiler:Kasumi]]'s TomatoSurprise a lot more surprising, but TheMovie uses so much {{Foreshadowing}} and tosses around so many clues before TheReveal isn't nearly as shocking as it could have been.

Added: 198

Changed: 62

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Likewise, Peter's religious beliefs were never mentioned in the manga, he the movie makes him a devout Christian.

to:

** Likewise, Peter's religious beliefs were never mentioned in the manga, he while the movie makes him a devout Christian.Christian who's always wearing a [[CreepyCoolCrosses cross pendant]].



* NightmareFuel: Copious amounts of {{Gorn}}, CruelAndUnusualDeath, characters being chased by one SuperPersistentPredator after another and sometimes EatenAlive, plus Kasumi's nightmares and suicidal tendencies. Then there's Medusa itself causing all kinds of BodyHorror. And this is all within the first book!

to:

* NightmareFuel: Copious amounts of {{Gorn}}, CruelAndUnusualDeath, characters being chased by one SuperPersistentPredator after another and sometimes EatenAlive, plus Kasumi's nightmares and suicidal tendencies. Then there's Medusa itself causing all kinds of BodyHorror. And this is all within the first book!book!
* TheWoobie: [[BreakTheCutie Kasumi]], [[TraumaCongaLine of course]].
** [[IronWoobie Marco]] also qualifies, and special mentions go to [[StoicWoobie Alice]] and [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Shizuku]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: "[[HeroicSacrifice This...]] [[TookALevelInBadAss is...]] [[MamaBear MY]] [[DeadlyUpgrade IMAGE]]!!"
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Marco [[spoiler:comes back from the dead]] because he wants to protect Kasumi.
** "Believe in me, Kasumi..."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: TheMovie takes quite a few creative liberties with the cast.
**For instance, not only is Marco's entire motivation and backstory drastically different, but his personality is more HotBlooded with some LargeHam mixed in.
**Likewise, Peter's religious beliefs were never mentioned in the manga, he the movie makes him a devout Christian.
**And then there's Tim, a fearful but plucky kid in the manga who is rightfully terrified of the monsters trying to kill him, but in the movie he is barely fazed by all the violence and compares the whole thing to a video game.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* HighOctaneNightmareFuel
* MagnificentBastard: Zeus

to:

* HighOctaneNightmareFuel
* MagnificentBastard: ZeusZeus
* NightmareFuel: Copious amounts of {{Gorn}}, CruelAndUnusualDeath, characters being chased by one SuperPersistentPredator after another and sometimes EatenAlive, plus Kasumi's nightmares and suicidal tendencies. Then there's Medusa itself causing all kinds of BodyHorror. And this is all within the first book!

Top