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* {{Narm}}: K is hardly the most imposing villain.

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* {{Narm}}: K is hardly the most imposing villain. Probably intentional, considering that Vice chose him solely because he was such a pathetic push-over.

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Ruined Forever is now Darth Wiki and not to be wicked in that way.


* BrokenBase: The amount of HoYay / FoeYay in the series, specifically between Rune and Yamato. Some find it to be a great amount of {{Squick}} and [[{{RuinedFOREVER}} unnecessary]], and other see it as crucial to the storyline.

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* BrokenBase: The amount of HoYay / FoeYay in the series, specifically between Rune and Yamato. Some find it to be a great amount of {{Squick}} and [[{{RuinedFOREVER}} unnecessary]], unnecessary, and other see it as crucial to the storyline.
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** FridgeBrilliance: Remember, Dunstan created Ultimo and chose Yamato to weild him. His takes on "good" and "evil" are pretty damn twisted, so it's no surprise that Yamato isn't your [[TheCape typical hero]].
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* DudeNotFunny: [[AttemptedRape That one scene with Rune]] was hard enough to read without the artist seemingly trying to play it for laughs

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* CompleteMonster: Rune, due to AlternateCharacterInterpretations.
* DesignatedHero: The main character has a bipolar outlook on the good of the world. The "good" characters are very enigmatic and don't seem all that attached to even each other. They also happen to be the world's last hope in being saved from an amoral scientitst's products of destruction. With the direction the series seems to be going, it is possible that Lee and Takei are trying to make a deconstruction on the BlackAndWhiteMorality of shonen and superhero manga, though it's still a bit soon to tell.

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* CompleteMonster: Rune, due to AlternateCharacterInterpretations.
* DesignatedHero: The main character has a bipolar outlook on the good of the world. The "good" characters are very enigmatic and don't seem all that attached to even each other. They also happen to be the world's last hope in being saved from an amoral scientitst's products of destruction. With Yep, Stan Lee's bringing in the direction the series seems to be going, it is possible that Lee and Takei are trying to make a deconstruction on the BlackAndWhiteMorality of shonen and superhero manga, though it's still a bit soon to tell. Marvel touch here.



* FetishFuel: The concept of the Doji.


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Things that YourMileageMayVary on in ''KarakuridoujiUltimo''. Spoilers will be unmarked.
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* CompleteMonster: {{YMMV}} on Rune, due to AlternateCharacterInterpretations.

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* CompleteMonster: {{YMMV}} on Rune, due to AlternateCharacterInterpretations.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Villainous example in Chapter 11; After licking their wounds for well over a hundred pages, Vice and K return with a vengeance replete with giant toppling blades and badass motorcycles.
** Again in Chapter 12 with the REST OF THE EVIL DOJI!!!
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* {{Moe}}: Ultimo, Sayama, Machi... Most of the girls and some of the more bishie doji are definitely designed to invoke {{moe}} vibes.
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* BaseBreaker: Fans either adore Musashi for trying to prevent a bad future while looking awful pretty doing so, but there are those who can't stand how obnoxious he can be, especially to Yamato.
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* TearJerker: Though the presentation might be a little overblown, [[spoiler:Eko's funeral in chapter 34]] is still very touching.
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removing sinkholes to Understatement per TRS


** More like it '''relies''' on it. Nothing in the series is expressed through long speeches, they're expressed through [[{{WhamEpisode}} Wham Chapters]] and [[{{Understatement}} deeply unexpected]] plot twists.

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** More like it '''relies''' on it. Nothing in the series is expressed through long speeches, they're expressed through [[{{WhamEpisode}} Wham Chapters]] and [[{{Understatement}} deeply unexpected]] unexpected plot twists.
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* DesignatedHero: The main character has a bipolar outlook on the good of the world. The "good" characters are very enigmatic and don't seem all that attached to even each other. They also happen to be the world's last hope in being saved from an amoral scientitst's products of destruction. With the direction the series seems to be going, it is possible that Lee and Takei are trying to make a deconstruction on the BlackAndWhiteMorality of shonen and superhero manga, though it's still a bit soon to tell.


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** They actually do use long speeches, usually to point out ThePowerOfLove or good and such.

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* BrokenBase: The amount of HoYay / FoeYay in the series, specifically between Rune and Yamato. Some find it to be a great amount of {{Squick}} and [[{{RuinedFOREVER}} unnecessary]], and other see it as crucial to the storyline.



* FetishFuel: Arguably the whole idea.
** You might want to elaborate on "whole idea".
** Well, the concept of the doji certainly qualifies.
* The amount of HoYay / FoeYay in the series, specifically between Rune and Yamato. Some find it to be a great amount of {{Squick}} and [[{{RuinedFOREVER}} unnecessary]], and other see it as crucial to the storyline.

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* FetishFuel: Arguably the whole idea.
** You might want to elaborate on "whole idea".
** Well, the
The concept of the doji certainly qualifies.
* The amount of HoYay / FoeYay in the series, specifically between Rune and Yamato. Some find it to be a great amount of {{Squick}} and [[{{RuinedFOREVER}} unnecessary]], and other see it as crucial to the storyline.
Doji.



* NightmareFuel:Pretty much the introduction of The Seven Deadly Sins

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* NightmareFuel:Pretty NightmareFuel: Pretty much the introduction of The Seven Deadly SinsSins.



** [[FridgeBrilliance Incompetence is the ultimate evil, and having a master who's easy to push around makes it easy for Vice to do what he wants]].
* Sayama and her friends getting doji. Although it is nice to see them [[{{AscendedExtra}} get some importance to the plot.]] It is implied that they are ''replacing'' the original Good Doji Club masters, who only had two-four (five if they were lucky) apperances.

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** [[FridgeBrilliance Incompetence is the ultimate evil, and having a master who's easy to push around makes it easy for Vice to do what he wants]].
* Sayama and her friends getting doji. Although it is nice to see them [[{{AscendedExtra}} get some importance to the plot.]] It is implied that they are ''replacing'' the original Good Doji Club masters, who only had two-four (five if they were lucky) apperances.
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** Well, the concept of the doji certainly qualifies.
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** You might want to elaborate on "whole idea".
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* FetishFuel: Arguably the whole idea.
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Jealous is programmed to be evil, so it doesn\'t really count.


** Jealous is arguable as well. It's his fault Rune is as fucked up as he is. Not to mention he is the only to kill his own master so far. Although you could say [[{{TooDumbToLive}} Iruma]] had it coming, and he ''is'' an evil doji. But still, none of the others have caused any of the things Jealous has.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Villainous example in Chapter 11; After licking their wounds for well over a hundred pages, Vice and K return with a vengeance replete with giant toppling blades and badass motorcycles.
** Again in Chapter 12 with the REST OF THE EVIL DOJI!!!



* {{Narm}}: K. Just K.

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* {{Narm}}: K. Just K.K is hardly the most imposing villain.


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* NightmareFuel:Pretty much the introduction of The Seven Deadly Sins
** That weird lipstick 12th centuary Iruma wore? ''It's blood.''


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* ParanoiaFuel: The day jobs of some of the Evil Douji Masters? Elementary School teacher, music producer, oh and PRO GOLFER.
** Not to mention the [[EnfantTerrible little girl]].
*** FridgeBrilliance, when you remember how earlier Hana tells the school guard that her ''teacher'' told her that she had no parents. This may as well mean that the evil elementary school teacher brainwashed her into becoming the master of an evil doji.


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* ViewerGenderConfusion: Lampshaded with Rune: his past life ''was'' a girl.


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** [[FridgeBrilliance Incompetence is the ultimate evil, and having a master who's easy to push around makes it easy for Vice to do what he wants]].

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Mizho.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Mizho. Rune too, depending on your opinion/view of him.



** More like it '''relies''' on it. Nothing in the series is expressed through long speeches, they're expressed through [[{{WhamEpisode}} Wham Chapters]] and [[{{Understatement}} deeply unexpected]] plot twists.



* MemeticMolester: Rune. [[{{AttemptedRape}} For obvious reasons]]. Just compare the fandom's opinion of him [[{{AllLoveIsUnrequited}} back]] [[{{LoveMakesYouEvil}} in Part I]].... [[{{LoveMakesYouCrazy}} to]] [[{{StalkerWithACrush}} now]].

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* MemeticMolester: Rune. [[{{AttemptedRape}} For obvious reasons]]. Just compare the fandom's opinion of him [[{{AllLoveIsUnrequited}} back]] [[{{LoveMakesYouEvil}} in Part Part]] [[{{TheWoobie}} I]].... [[{{LoveMakesYouCrazy}} to]] [[{{StalkerWithACrush}} now]].



** Yamato's expressions and reactions to 99% of the stuff that happen in the manga. In all fairness, this would probably be the reader's reactions too if he/she was in that situation.

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** Yamato's expressions and reactions to 99% of the stuff that happen in the manga. In all fairness, this would probably be [[{{ThisLoserIsYou}} the reader's reader's]] reactions too if he/she was in that situation.



* Sayama and her friends (possibly) getting doji. Although it is nice to see them [[{{AscendedExtra}} get some importance to the plot.]] It is implied that they are ''replacing'' the original Good Doji Club masters, who only had two-four (five if they were lucky) apperances.

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* Sayama and her friends (possibly) getting doji. Although it is nice to see them [[{{AscendedExtra}} get some importance to the plot.]] It is implied that they are ''replacing'' the original Good Doji Club masters, who only had two-four (five if they were lucky) apperances.
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* EvilIsSexy: The evil doji and their masters, since you know... they're evil. Not to mention that the doji are, well, ''robots''.

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* EvilIsSexy: The Most of the evil doji and their masters, masters (highlights including Vice, Rune, Jealous, and Desir) since you know... they're evil. Not to mention that the doji are, well, ''robots''.
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* {{HSQ}}: ''Devoted'' to this.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Mizho.
** Jealous for the doji.
** Akitsu for Sayama's friends.
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* EvilIsSexy: The evil doji and their masters, since you know... they're evil. Not to mention that the doji are, well, ''robots''.
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* MemeticMolester: Rune. [[{{AttemptedRape}} For obvious reasons]]. Just compare the fandom's opinion of him [[{{AllLoveIsUnrequited}} back]] [[{{LoveMakesYouEvil}} in Part I]].... [[{{LoveMakesYouCrazy}} to]] [[{{StalkerWithACrush}} now]].
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** Jealous is arguable as well. It's his fault Rune is as fucked up as he is. Not to mention he is the only to kill his own master so far. Although you could say [[{{TooDumbToLive}} Iruma]] had it coming, and he ''is'' an evil doji. But still, none of the others have caused any of the things Jealous has.



* VillainDecay: Is Vice truly the epitome of evil? For more than a year's worth of chapters put together, Vice hasn't been shown doing ''anything'' except eat hamburgers and yell at K while just lazily sitting around in their run-down apartment. YMMV if his [[{{DynamicEntry}} dynamic entries]] make up for this.

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* VillainDecay: Is Vice truly the epitome of evil? For more than a year's worth of chapters put together, Vice hasn't been shown doing ''anything'' except eat hamburgers and yell at K while just lazily sitting around in their run-down apartment. YMMV if his [[{{DynamicEntry}} dynamic entries]] make up for this.this.
* Sayama and her friends (possibly) getting doji. Although it is nice to see them [[{{AscendedExtra}} get some importance to the plot.]] It is implied that they are ''replacing'' the original Good Doji Club masters, who only had two-four (five if they were lucky) apperances.
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* {{Squick}}: Miyoshi Sumako, being an ''elementary school teacher'', and the master of the ''{{Lust}}'' doji. But some will find that to be rather [[{{FetishFuel}} attractive]].

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* {{Squick}}: Miyoshi Sumako, being an ''elementary school teacher'', and the master of the ''{{Lust}}'' doji.doji, and not to mention the feelings she seems to have for him. But some will find that to be rather [[{{FetishFuel}} attractive]].
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** Akira Hidaka, another master of an evil doji, is a pro golfer. Either it's reflective of the [[{{VillainWithGoodPublicity}} celebrities these days]], or it made you burst out laughing. Hell, his FanNickname seems to be the [[{{MemeticMutation}} EVIL PRO GOLFER]].

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** Akira Hidaka, another a master of an evil doji, is a pro golfer. Either it's reflective of the [[{{VillainWithGoodPublicity}} celebrities these days]], or it made you burst out laughing. Hell, his FanNickname seems to be the [[{{MemeticMutation}} EVIL PRO GOLFER]].
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* {{Narm}}: Once again... K.

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* {{Narm}}: Once again... K. Just K.



** K. He is either a CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass or the primary source of {{Squick}} in the manga.

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** Once again... K. He is either a CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass or the primary source of {{Squick}} in the manga.
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* The amount of HoYay / FoeYay in the series, specifically between Rune and Yamato. Some find it to be a great amount of {{Squick}} and unnecessary, and other see it as crucial to the storyline.

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* The amount of HoYay / FoeYay in the series, specifically between Rune and Yamato. Some find it to be a great amount of {{Squick}} and unnecessary, [[{{RuinedFOREVER}} unnecessary]], and other see it as crucial to the storyline.

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* VillainDecay: Is Vice truly the epitome of evil? For more than a year's worth of chapters put together, Vice hasn't been shown doing ''anything'' except eat hamburgers and yell at K while just lazily sitting around in their run-down apartment. YMMV if his [[{{DynamicEntry}} dynamic entries]] make up for this.

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* VillainDecay: Is Vice truly the epitome of evil? For more than a year's worth of chapters put together, Vice hasn't been shown doing ''anything'' except eat hamburgers and yell at K while just lazily sitting around in their run-down apartment. YMMV if his [[{{DynamicEntry}} dynamic entries]] make up for this.CompleteMonster: {{YMMV}} on Rune, due to AlternateCharacterInterpretations.



* JerkassWoobie: Rune. By now, it's safe to say that he's done more things to garner {{Squick}} than sympathy from the fanbase. ''Especially'' to Yamato. But in a way, it's justified, as Ultimo did kill his past self.
** Murayama Musashi. While his whole ''world'' was destroyed, his rude quips to Yamato and tendency to rather recklessly do things himself places him in this territory.
* {{Narm}}: Once again... K.
** Akira Hidaka, another master of an evil doji, is a pro golfer. Either it's reflective of the [[{{VillainWithGoodPublicity}} celebrities these days]], or it made you burst out laughing. Hell, his FanNickname seems to be the [[{{MemeticMutation}} EVIL PRO GOLFER]].
** Yamato's expressions and reactions to 99% of the stuff that happen in the manga. In all fairness, this would probably be the reader's reactions too if he/she was in that situation.



* {{Narm}}: Once again... K.
** Akira Hidaka, another master of an evil doji, is a pro golfer. Either it's reflective of the [[{{VillainsWithGoodPublicity}} celebrities these days]], or it made you burst out laughing. Hell, his FanNickname seems to be the [[{{MemeticMutation}} EVIL PRO GOLFER]].
** Yamato's expressions and reactions to 99% of the stuff that happen in the manga. In all fairness, this would probably be the reader's reactions too if he/she was in that situation.
* CompleteMonster: {{YMMV}} on Rune, due to AlternateCharacterInterpretations.



* JerkassWoobie: Rune. By now, it's safe to say that he's done more things to garner {{Squick}} than sympathy from the fanbase. ''Especially'' to Yamato. But in a way, it's justified, as Ultimo did kill his past self.
** Murayama Musashi. While his whole ''world'' was destroyed, his rude quips to Yamato and tendency to rather recklessly do things himself places him in this territory.

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* JerkassWoobie: Rune. By now, it's safe to say that he's done VillainDecay: Is Vice truly the epitome of evil? For more things to garner {{Squick}} than sympathy from the fanbase. ''Especially'' to Yamato. But a year's worth of chapters put together, Vice hasn't been shown doing ''anything'' except eat hamburgers and yell at K while just lazily sitting around in a way, it's justified, as Ultimo did kill their run-down apartment. YMMV if his past self.
** Murayama Musashi. While his whole ''world'' was destroyed, his rude quips to Yamato and tendency to rather recklessly do things himself places him in this territory.
[[{{DynamicEntry}} dynamic entries]] make up for this.

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