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** Part 4 in general, has it the worst despite having Josuke, both versions of Kira, Rohan, Koichi and Okuyasu, it also has significantly less likable Akira and more infamously, Shigekiyo "Fatty" Yanguu instead of...basically anyone else from the following Parts of the story
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** [[CreatorsPet Part 4 4]] in general, general has it the worst despite since in addition to having Josuke, both versions of Kira, Rohan, Koichi and Okuyasu, it also has the significantly less likable popular Akira and more infamously, Shigekiyo "Fatty" Yanguu instead of...basically of... anyone else from the following Parts of the storylater parts who has actual fans.
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* TheScrappy: Akira's presence on the roster in lieu of any number of other, more popular characters is commonly lamented
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** Shigekiyo "Fatty" Yanguu shares the same complaints as Akira, doesn't help that he's a scrappy in Part 4 as well
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** Shigekiyo "Fatty" Yanguu shares the same complaints as Akira, doesn't Akira. Doesn't help that he's a scrappy in Part 4 as wellwell.
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** Yoshikage Kira's theme has a riff of ''Killer Queen''
** Buccialleti's theme is essentially a remixed ''Brown Sugar'' by Music/TheRollingStones
** Akira's theme has a piece that borrows from ''Can't Stop'' by Music/RedHotChiliPeppers
** Buccialleti's theme is essentially a remixed ''Brown Sugar'' by Music/TheRollingStones
** Akira's theme has a piece that borrows from ''Can't Stop'' by Music/RedHotChiliPeppers
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** Yoshikage Kira's theme has a riff of ''Killer Queen''
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**Buccialleti's Buccellati's theme is essentially a remixed ''Brown Sugar'' by Music/TheRollingStones
Music/TheRollingStones.
** Akira's theme has a piece that borrows from ''Can't Stop'' byMusic/RedHotChiliPeppersMusic/RedHotChiliPeppers.
* TierInducedScrappy: "Normal" Kira. The fact that he's a limited-edition DLC character already soured a lot of players, and the fact that he's vastly inferior to the Kosaku version, who anybody can use, will either rub more salt into the wound or leave you feeling validated for not bothering with him.
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** Akira's theme has a piece that borrows from ''Can't Stop'' by
* TierInducedScrappy: "Normal" Kira. The fact that he's a limited-edition DLC character already soured a lot of players, and the fact that he's vastly inferior to the Kosaku version, who anybody can use, will either rub more salt into the wound or leave you feeling validated for not bothering with him.
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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAH9W2zhOJQ&list=PL08WrKPEpDO1_aUdkAwzsVk-ykTknNIUX Kosaku's Theme: KILL A]]
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** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAH9W2zhOJQ&list=PL08WrKPEpDO1_aUdkAwzsVk-ykTknNIUX Kosaku's Kosaku-Kira's Theme: KILL A]]
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** Esidesi's theme has a piece that sounds like Music/{{ACDC}}'s ''Back in Black''
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** Esidesi's Esidisi's theme has a piece that sounds like Music/{{ACDC}}'s ''Back in Black''
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Didn\'t know whether to place in trivia or in ymmv, so just went for latter
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**Akira's theme has a piece that borrows from ''Can't Stop'' by Music/RedHotChiliPeppers
**Akira's theme has a piece that borrows from ''Can't Stop'' by Music/RedHotChiliPeppers
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Don\'t know to put this in trivia or ymmv, just going with the recommendations
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** Shigekiyo "Fatty" Yanguu shares the same complaints as Akira, doesn't help that he's a scrappy in Part 4 as well
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** Shigekiyo "Fatty" Yanguu shares the same complaints as Akira, doesn't help that he's a scrappy in Part 4 as wellwell
*SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Appropriately enough, most of the character themes take musical cues and riffs from classic rock pieces based on their characters' inspirations. A few examples:
**Esidesi's theme has a piece that sounds like Music/{{ACDC}}'s ''Back in Black''
**Yoshikage Kira's theme has a riff of ''Killer Queen''
**Buccialleti's theme is appropriately ''Brown Sugar'' by Music/TheRollingStones
*SuspiciouslySimilarSong: Appropriately enough, most of the character themes take musical cues and riffs from classic rock pieces based on their characters' inspirations. A few examples:
**Esidesi's theme has a piece that sounds like Music/{{ACDC}}'s ''Back in Black''
**Yoshikage Kira's theme has a riff of ''Killer Queen''
**Buccialleti's theme is appropriately ''Brown Sugar'' by Music/TheRollingStones
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Oh, you better believe it. The soundtrack's so wonderful, it's hard to pick the stand-outs, so we'll just leave you with a few samples:
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElWWh5Jf1Wc&list=PL08WrKPEpDO1_aUdkAwzsVk-ykTknNIUX Caesar's Theme: Lonely Youth]]
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkSFqyw96Go&list=PL08WrKPEpDO1_aUdkAwzsVk-ykTknNIUX Wham's Theme: A True Warrior]]
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAH9W2zhOJQ&list=PL08WrKPEpDO1_aUdkAwzsVk-ykTknNIUX Kosaku's Theme: KILL A]]
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEX7SkmwfVc&list=PL08WrKPEpDO1_aUdkAwzsVk-ykTknNIUX Jolyne's Theme: I Want To See The Starlight]]
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA2lj_7xhq8&list=PL08WrKPEpDO1_aUdkAwzsVk-ykTknNIUX Buccellati's theme: Arrivederci!]]
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElWWh5Jf1Wc&list=PL08WrKPEpDO1_aUdkAwzsVk-ykTknNIUX Caesar's Theme: Lonely Youth]]
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkSFqyw96Go&list=PL08WrKPEpDO1_aUdkAwzsVk-ykTknNIUX Wham's Theme: A True Warrior]]
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAH9W2zhOJQ&list=PL08WrKPEpDO1_aUdkAwzsVk-ykTknNIUX Kosaku's Theme: KILL A]]
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEX7SkmwfVc&list=PL08WrKPEpDO1_aUdkAwzsVk-ykTknNIUX Jolyne's Theme: I Want To See The Starlight]]
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA2lj_7xhq8&list=PL08WrKPEpDO1_aUdkAwzsVk-ykTknNIUX Buccellati's theme: Arrivederci!]]
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Now that I think about it, I can\'t really prove that Fatty got in because of his status as one of Araki\'s favorites.
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* CreatorsPet: Araki [[http://images.wikia.com/jjba/images/f/fa/Araki%27s_Top_Ten_Favourite_Characters_%282000%29.jpeg listed Fatty as his 9th favorite character]] in the year 2000. Even though many years have passed since then, it would certainly explain his inclusion over [[BrokenBase less frustrating figures]], considering he liked him better than freakin' [[EvilIsCool Dio Brando]].
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* CreatorsPet: Araki [[http://images.wikia.com/jjba/images/f/fa/Araki%27s_Top_Ten_Favourite_Characters_%282000%29.jpeg listed Fatty as his 9th favorite character]] in the year 2000. Even though many years have passed since then, it would certainly explain his inclusion over [[BrokenBase less frustrating figures]], considering he liked him better than Dio Goddamn Brando.
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* CreatorsPet: Araki [[http://images.wikia.com/jjba/images/f/fa/Araki%27s_Top_Ten_Favourite_Characters_%282000%29.jpeg listed Fatty as his 9th favorite character]] in the year 2000. Even though many years have passed since then, it would certainly explain his inclusion over [[BrokenBase less frustrating figures]], considering he liked him better than freakin' [[EvilIsCool Dio Goddamn Brando.Brando]].
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* CreatorsPet: Araki [[http://images.wikia.com/jjba/images/f/fa/Araki%27s_Top_Ten_Favourite_Characters_%282000%29.jpeg listed Fatty as his 9th favorite character]] in the year 2000. If he's still got a soft spot for him, it would probably explain his inclusion over [[BrokenBase less frustrating figures.]]
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* CreatorsPet: Araki [[http://images.wikia.com/jjba/images/f/fa/Araki%27s_Top_Ten_Favourite_Characters_%282000%29.jpeg listed Fatty as his 9th favorite character]] in the year 2000. If he's still got a soft spot for him, Even though many years have passed since then, it would probably certainly explain his inclusion over [[BrokenBase less frustrating figures.]]figures]], considering he liked him better than Dio Goddamn Brando.
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* CreatorsPet: Araki [[http://images.wikia.com/jjba/images/f/fa/Araki%27s_Top_Ten_Favourite_Characters_%282000%29.jpeg listed Fatty as his top 9th favorite character]] in the year 2000. If he's still got a soft spot for him, it would probably explain his inclusion over [[BrokenBase less frustrating figures.]]
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* CreatorsPet: Araki [[http://images.wikia.com/jjba/images/f/fa/Araki%27s_Top_Ten_Favourite_Characters_%282000%29.jpeg listed Fatty as his top 9th favorite character]] in the year 2000. If he's still got a soft spot for him, it would probably explain his inclusion over [[BrokenBase less frustrating figures.]]
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** Part 4 in general, has it the worst despite having Josuke, both versions of Kira, Rohan, Koichi and Okuyasu, it also has significantly less likable Akira and more infamously, Shigekiyo "Fatty" Yanguu instead of...basically anyone else from the following Parts of the story
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** Part 4 in general, has it the worst despite having Josuke, Kira, Rohan, Rohan, Koichi and Okuyasu, it also has significantly less likable Akira and more infamously, Shigekiyo "Fatty" Yanguu instead of...basically anyone else from the following SagasParts of the story
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** Shigekiyo "Fatty" Yanguu shares the same complaints
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** The declaration that the priority would be making it a good fanservice game first, a well-balanced fighting game second. Although, players who'd rather have it the other way around probably doubt {{CyberConnect2}}'s ability when it comes to the latter anyway, so maybe it's for the best.
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** The declaration that the priority would be making it a good fanservice fan-service game first, a well-balanced fighting game second. Although, players who'd rather have it the other way around probably doubt {{CyberConnect2}}'s ability when it comes to the latter anyway, so maybe it's for the best.
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** The fact that the game runs at 30 fps, which for fighters generally means there's input lag for commands. Though it's considered to be a better option than trying to force the game to 60 fps, which would cause variable framerate issues (a criticized problem with MvC3).
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** The fact that the game runs at 30 fps, which for fighters generally means there's input lag for commands. Though it's considered to be a better option than trying to force the game to 60 fps, which would cause variable framerate frame-rate issues (a criticized problem with MvC3).
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* MemeticMutation: Diego's absence from any annoucements is starting to make him out as the new [[{{VideoGame/Touhou}} Mima]].
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* MemeticMutation: Diego's absence from any annoucements announcements is starting to make him out as the new [[{{VideoGame/Touhou}} Mima]].
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** Kakyoin is shaping up to becoming a TierInducedScrappy due to [[CurbStompBattle cruising]] through the All-Star Battle League thanks to the AI doing nothing but [[SpamAttack spamming]] [[FlechetteStorm Emerald Splash]].
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** Kakyoin is shaping up to becoming a TierInducedScrappy due to [[CurbStompBattle cruising]] through the All-Star Battle League thanks to the AI doing nothing but [[SpamAttack spamming]] [[FlechetteStorm Emerald Splash]].Splash]].
**Shigekiyo "Fatty" Yanguu shares the same complaints
**Shigekiyo "Fatty" Yanguu shares the same complaints
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** During the All-Star Battle League, any fight featuring Kakyoin will mostly feature this:
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** Kakyoin is shaping up to becoming a TierInducedScrappy due to [[CurbStompBattle cruising]] through the All-Star Battle League by thanks to the AI doing nothing but [[SpamAttack spamming]] [[FlechetteStorm Emerald Splash]].
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** Shigekiyo "Fatty" Yanguu making it into the game initially over other, more popular [=JoJo=] heroes and villains, even if he is DLC, has pretty much split the base. Doesn't help that Shigechi was yet another [[TheScrappy Scrappy]] of Part 4, making Part 4 the most bloated in terms of character representation.
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* TheScrappy: Akira's presence on the roster in lieu of any number of other, more popular characters is commonly lamented
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** During the All-Star Battle League, any fight featuring Kakyoin will mostly feature this:
-->'''Kakyoin''': Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash!
* TheScrappy: Akira's presence on the roster in lieu of any number of other, more popular characters is commonlylamentedlamented
** Kakyoin is shaping up to becoming a TierInducedScrappy due to [[CurbStompBattle cruising]] through the All-Star Battle League by doing nothing but [[SpamAttack spamming]] [[FlechetteStorm Emerald Splash]].
-->'''Kakyoin''': Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash! Emerald Splash!
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** Kakyoin is shaping up to becoming a TierInducedScrappy due to [[CurbStompBattle cruising]] through the All-Star Battle League by doing nothing but [[SpamAttack spamming]] [[FlechetteStorm Emerald Splash]].
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** The fact that the game runs at 30 fps, which for fighters generally means there's input lag for commands. Though it's considered to be a better option than trying to force the game to 60 fps, which would cause variable framerate issues (a criticized problem with MvC3).
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* MostAnnoyingSound: Emporio's wails of fear on the Kennedy Space Center stage are pretty grating.
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* TheScrappy: Akira's presence on the roster in lieu of any number of other, more popular characters is commonly lamented
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* CoolVersusAwesome: The premise of the game.
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* CoolVersusAwesome: The premise of the game.game.
* MostAnnoyingSound: Emporio's wails of fear on the Kennedy Space Center stage are pretty grating.
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*** Somewhat tempered now, due to the fact that Kira's "Ultimate" Form, his disguise as Kosaku Kawajiri, is in the game, featuring *both* Killer Queen: Bite the Dust as his Stand and Gatta with Straycat as an AssistCharacter. Since this is the version of Kira that was featured in the memorable showdown of Part 4, the base is a bit less broken, as of now.
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* Making Yoshikage Kira, one of the {{Big Bad}}s and one of the most popular villains in the series, DLC-only has ruffled quite a few feathers, despite it being free in first-print copies (to serve as a buy-it-early incentive).
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* The declaration that the priority would be making it a good fanservice game first, a well-balanced fighting game second. Although, players who'd rather have it the other way around probably doubt {{CyberConnect2}}'s ability when it comes to the latter anyway, so maybe it's for the best.
* Making Yoshikage Kira, one of the {{Big Bad}}s and one of the most popular villains in the series, DLC-only has ruffled quite a few feathers, despite it being free in first-print copies (to serve as a buy-it-early incentive).
* The declaration that the priority would be making it a good fanservice game first, a well-balanced fighting game second. Although, players who'd rather have it the other way around probably doubt {{CyberConnect2}}'s ability when it comes to the latter anyway, so maybe it's for the best.
* Making Yoshikage Kira, one of the {{Big Bad}}s and one of the most popular villains in the series, DLC-only has ruffled quite a few feathers, despite it being free in first-print copies (to serve as a buy-it-early incentive).
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