History YMMV / JakAndDaxter

* MoralEventHorizon: When exactly Baron Praxis crossed it is up for debate, but it's widely accepted that he ''crossed'' it.
** For ''Jak 3'', you easily could replace "Baron Praxis" with "Count Veger" in the above statement, though many tend to point to his [[spoiler:gloating to Jak immediately after Damas' death]].
** In TLF, [[spoiler:this is the whole reason why Phoenix does his pirating thing in the first place. He quit his military post in the Aeropan air force because it was the Aeropans who, apparently, started the hideous, mind-altering Dark Warrior Project that Haven later picked up.]]
*** [[spoiler:Even better, the source of dark eco that Aeropa used to fuel the Project was none other than the huge crystal core of their planet, meaning that they were destroying their entire world in the process.]]
** As for Erol, there are only "[[{{WesternAnimation/Hercules}} two words]]" that can describe that he's crossed the line: "[[spoiler:I win, Jak!]]"
*** [[spoiler:And this was in the second game...]]

* FanonDiscontinuity: Fans tend to ignore the characters' canon ages, largely becuse everyone looks way older than what they've meant to be, and this also avoids some UnfortunateImplications such as Keira's sexualization (She's ''14'' in the first game, and only turns 18 in Jak X) and the ShipTease that 22-year old Ashelin had with 17-year old Jak in ''Renegade''. Jak is usually considered to be 18 in ''TPL'', and 24 in ''Jak X'' and Keira, like in canon, is 1 year younger than him.

* FirstInstallmentWins: While all the games in the original trilogy are generally well-received, ''TPL'' sold the best in the series, and there are a large number of fans who prefer it over the sequels due to it's more traditional CollectAThonPlatformer gameplay compared to their mission based sandbox and third person shooting focus, dislike of their DarkerAndEdgier direction, and feeling like it was more focused and had a more clear identity than the other games in the series.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: While many would say the change in direction was a good thing, there are some who felt that the first game set up a pretty good platformer series, and didn't appreciate the shift in tone. These people feel there was room to expand on what the first game did rather than leaving it confined to that one game, which isn't helped by a hint towards a possible return of Gol and Maia that [[{{Fauxshadow}} ultimately doesn't amount to anything in the sequels]].

* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: It seems this way to a few fans of the original ''Jak and Daxter'', when ''Jak 2'' changed everything.

* FirstInstallmentWins: While all the games in the original trilogy are generally well-received, ''TPL'' sold the best in the series, and there are a large number of fans who prefer it over the sequels due to it's more traditional CollectAThonPlatformer gameplay compared to their mission based sandbox and third person shooting focus, dislike of their DarkerAndEdgier direction, and feel like it was more focused and had a more clear identity than them.

* FirstInstallmentWins: While all the games in the original trilogy are generally well-received, ''TPL'' sold the best in the series, and there are a sizable number of fans of it who prefer it over the sequels due to it's more traditional CollectAThonPlatformer gameplay compared to their mission based sandbox and third person shooting focus and dislike of their DarkerAndEdgier direction.

* BrokenBase: To this day, it's not uncommon to see debates over whether the series was better when it was a pure platformer like the first game and Daxter, or more Action-Oriented like the two sequels. The Lost Frontier gets this ''way'' more.

* BrokenBase: To this day, it's not uncommon to see debates over whether the series was better when it was a pure platformer like the first game and ''Daxter'', or more Action-Oriented like the two sequels. The Lost Frontier gets this ''way'' more.

* BrokenBase: To this day, it's not uncommon to see debates over whether the series was better when it was a pure platformer like the first game, or more Action-Oriented like the two sequels. The Lost Frontier gets this ''way'' more.

* FirstInstallmentWins: There are a sizable number of fans of the first game who prefer it over the sequels due to it's more traditional CollectAThonPlatformer gameplay compared to their mission based sandbox and third person shooting focus and dislike of their DarkerAndEdgier direction.

* FirstInstallmentWins: There is a sizable number of fans of the first game who prefer it over the sequels due to it's more traditional CollectAThonPlatformer gameplay compared to their mission based sandbox and third person shooting focus and dislike of their DarkerAndEdgier direction.

* FirstInstallmentWins: There is a sizable number of fans of the first game who prefer it over the sequels due to it's more traditional CollectAThonPlatformer gameplay compared to their mission based sandbox and third person shooting focus and distaste of their DarkerAndEdgier direction.

* FirstInstallmentWins: There is a sizable number of fans of the first game who prefer it over the sequels due to it's more traditional CollectAThonPlatformer gameplay compared to the mission based sandbox and third person shooting focus of the sequels and distaste of their DarkerAndEdgier direction.

* FirstInstallmentWins: There is a sizable number of fans of the first game who dislike the DarkerAndEdgier direction that the sequels took the franchise in, and prefer the more traditional CollectAThonPlatformer gameplay of it over the more mission based sandbox and third person shooting focus of the sequels.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: ''Daxter'' takes place during the 2 years Jak was captured... except it really doesn't. Even the game itself states "Almost 2 years later" near the beginning and the game seems to take place during the last few days Jak is imprisoned. While the PSP limitations are obviously an issue, what Daxter was doing during the 2 years before the game takes place is an interesting premise.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Some feel that Gol and Maia, only ''[[SequelHook probably]]'' destroyed by the dark eco in the original game, had better setup to play CoDragons to the [[GreaterScopeVillain Dark Makers]] in ''Jak 3'' over [[spoiler:Erol]], whose tenure as the [[TheHeavy main antagonist]] is generally considered a weak one.

* NightmareFuel: Has it's [[NightmareFuel/JakAndDaxter own page]]

* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: Jak II was [[EpilepticTrees claimed]] by some to be a thinly veiled protest against the 2003 invasion of Iraq and the Bush administration ([[FauxSymbolism as supposedly represented by the MetalHead War and Baron Praxis respectively]]), particularly accusations that that they are wars that were fought solely for political and/or economic gain by governments that had illegitimately gained power.[[note]]With Baron Praxis's usurpation of power supposedly paralleling the Presidential election of 2000[[/note]] There is no proof of that Creator/NaughtyDog had any sort of political agenda when they made the game and for that matter had been in development well before the controversies regarding the Iraq War began.

* NightmareFuel: The [[BorderPatrol Lurker Shark]] in the first game, and the Kraken tentacle in the third.
** The abandoned research rig from TLF with it's very unsettling soundtrack, spooky atmosphere, and rather disturbing realizations. And
** Pretty much every time we see anything corrupted by dark eco qualifies in some way as well, up to and including Jak.
** [[spoiler:Metal Kor]]'s first appearance. First, this unseen, [[EvilSoundsDeep deep]] voice says, "Finally! The last Rift Gate has been opened!" and several freaky creatures that look like giant insects come through the portal, followed by some HUGE beast that roars loudly and says, "You cannot hide from me, boy!" I'm pretty sure anyone would shit themselves if something like that happened to them.
** Dark Daxter, contrary to earlier reports, doesn't [[HulkSpeak talk like the Hulk]] and seems to be of his usual intelligence. What makes this fit the trope is that Daxter is [[OmnicidalManiac genocidal]] and [[AxCrazy bloodthirsty]] while dark, but everything he says sounds frighteningly ''in character''.
--> Aww, I broke this one. Still hungry--time for more meat-snacks!
** The boulder chase in the Tomb of Mar in the second game that at first seems to be a ShoutOut to ''VideoGame/CrashBandicoot''. What really takes the scare factor UpToEleven is when [[spoiler:a giant spider comes out of the bolder.]]
** The intro with the torture scene.
** The security tanks. The spiked ones. They roll over people. And they must have some blood cleaning mechanism.
-->Guard: We haven't had any food riots since we installed those security tanks!

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* AngstWhatAngst: [[spoiler:Keira gets over Phoenix dying almost immediately... at which point she starts [[MakeOutKids making out with Jak]]]].

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: ''Daxter'' takes place during the 2 years Jak was captured... except it really doesn't. Even the game itself states "Almost 2 years later" near the beginning and the game seems to take place during the last few days Jak is imprisoned. While the PSP limitations are obviosly an issue, what Daxter was doing during the 2 years before the game takes place is an interesting premise.

** As for Erol, there are only "[[{{Disney/Hercules}} two words]]" that can describe that he's crossed the line: "[[spoiler:I win, Jak!]]"

** To a lesser degree, the [=PS3=] ports have some issues of their own, like some minor sound and graphics issues, though for the most part, they're still perfectly playable and nowhere near as bad as the Vita versions. Unlike the Vita versions, fans generally like the [=PS3=] ports enough to recommend them to someone who never played the games.[[note]]Although the UsefulNotes/PlayStation4 ports have put that into contention, as while they are ports of the PS2 versions, they only feature minor visual issues and are even more accessible than the [=PS3=] ports simply through age[[/note]]