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** Many appear, but Wilson tends to stands out. He has trouble with relationships and is drawn to help anyone with a problem, yet is highly manipulative and seems to impose himself on his patients' lives even though they don't seem to want it; said patients usually don't object because they don't want to be rude to their doctor.

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** Many appear, but Wilson tends to stands out. He has trouble with relationships and is drawn to help anyone with a problem, yet is highly manipulative and seems to impose himself on his patients' lives even though they don't seem to want it; said patients usually don't object because they don't want to be rude to their doctor. Many fans speculate that he has some kind of attachment disorder.

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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: Many appear, but Wilson tends to stands out. He has trouble with relationships and is drawn to help anyone with a problem, yet is highly manipulative and seems to impose himself on his patients' lives even though they don't seem to want it; said patients usually don't object because they don't want to be rude to their doctor.

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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: DiagnosedByTheAudience:
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Many appear, but Wilson tends to stands out. He has trouble with relationships and is drawn to help anyone with a problem, yet is highly manipulative and seems to impose himself on his patients' lives even though they don't seem to want it; said patients usually don't object because they don't want to be rude to their doctor.doctor.
** House. It's never stated what exactly his issue is, but it's made very clear he has some sort of mental disorder. He has narcissistic tendencies, acts impulsively, has to constantly keep his mind active, has an addictive personality, and appears to be perpetually depressed. Then there's his social difficulties. The strongest theories point to some kind of depressive disorder, most likely PDD (Persistent-Depressive Disorder), combined with ''adult'' ADHD.
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** "The Dig" seems to be starting the rally to rescue Thirteen. Season Eight had her happier (even if still about to die), giving Olivia Wilde more to do than DullSurprise.

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** "The Dig" seems to be starting starts the rally to rescue Thirteen. Season Eight had her happier (even if still about to die), giving Olivia Wilde more to do than DullSurprise.
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Removing Flame Bait


* UnfortunateImplications: The episode "Better Half" sent the message that asexuals are all either in denial or have a hormone imbalance, accusations real-life asexuals have to deal with from people who don't believe it's a legitimate orientation. [[http://skepticsplay.blogspot.ca/2012/01/house-did-not-do-research.html The]] [[http://www.salon.com/2012/01/31/house_gets_asexuality_wrong/ asexual community]] [[http://queereka.com/2012/01/24/asexuality-on-house-m-d/ was]] ''[[http://asexuality.livejournal.com/871977.html not]]'' [[https://writingfromfactorx.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/this-is-not-my-better-half/ pleased]] [[http://meganchristopher.net/asexuality-on-house-youre-doing-it-wrong/ by]] [[https://kinseyconfidential.org/illness-deception-asexuality-house-md/ this.]]
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* HollywoodHomely: Masters.

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* %%* HollywoodHomely: Masters.
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* HollywoodHomely: Masters and Park.

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* HollywoodHomely: Masters and Park.Masters.

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** The season 2 episode "Autopsy" in which Chase ''[[ItMakesSenseInContext kisses a 9-year-old cancer patient]]''.
*** The same episode also contains a scene where a patient attempted a self-circumcision with a pair of box-cutters. Included a GoryDiscretionShot but the description and the fact that even ''House'' was horrified was enough to invoke this reaction in the audience.

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** The season 2 episode "Autopsy" in "Autopsy," which Chase ''[[ItMakesSenseInContext kisses a 9-year-old cancer patient]]''.
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contains a scene where a patient attempted a self-circumcision with a pair of box-cutters. Included a GoryDiscretionShot but the description and the fact that even ''House'' was horrified was enough to invoke this reaction in the audience.
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*** Chase/Cameron: Chameron

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** The writers seem to have some weird ideas on communicating with children about sex. One episode featured a mother who never lied to her 10-year-old-ish daughter. As such, the daughter ''naturally'' knew the mother's sexual preferences and how they have changed ("She used to like being on top, but now she likes being face-down") and an older brother PromotedToParent telling Foreman it's fine for him to speak about analingus... in front of his two underage siblings. Huh.

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** The writers seem to have some weird ideas on communicating with children about sex. One episode featured a mother who never lied to her 10-year-old-ish daughter. As such, To test this, House ask the daughter ''naturally'' knew the if she knows her mother's sexual preferences and how they have changed ("She changed, obviously as a way to prove to her that her mother doesn't tell her everything. Then, she says: "She used to like being on top, but now she likes being face-down") face-down". [[HarmfulToMinors It's treated fairly seriously]], and even House looks disturbed and saddened that such a young girl actually had an answer to his rhetorical question.
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older brother PromotedToParent telling Foreman it's fine for him to speak about analingus... in front of his two underage siblings. Huh.
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* DiagnosedByTheAudience: Many appear, but Wilson tends to stands out. He has trouble with relationships and is drawn to help anyone with a problem, yet is highly manipulative and seems to impose himself on his patients' lives even though they don't seem to want it; said patients usually don't object because they don't want to be rude to their doctor.

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Zero Context and those three are each a Base Breaking Character due to failing to be consistently hated.


* ReplacementScrappy:
** Lucas in early Season 5.
** The replacement ducklings in early Season 4.

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** Cameron, although that may just be in comparison to her replacement Thirteen.
** Taub and Kutner quickly overcame their ReplacementScrappy status after the interview/reality show of early Season 4 ended.

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** %%** Cameron, although that may just be in comparison to her replacement Thirteen.
** %%** Taub and Kutner quickly overcame their ReplacementScrappy status after the interview/reality show of early Season 4 ended.



* TheScrappy:
** Edward Vogler from Season 1 and Tritter in Season 3, both for the same reason: Being a pointless ArcVillain in a show that didn't need them.
** In the earlier seasons, Foreman during his "Foreman is the new House" and Cameron for being preachy and obnoxious.
** Thirteen for similar reasons to Cameron, for being used as a MsFanservice and getting extra screentime for personal drama rather than the medical drama of patients and solving cases.

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* TheScrappy:
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TheScrappy: Edward Vogler from Season 1 and Tritter in Season 3, both for the same reason: Being a pointless ArcVillain in a show that didn't need them.
** In the earlier seasons, Foreman during his "Foreman is the new House" and Cameron for being preachy and obnoxious.
** Thirteen for similar reasons to Cameron, for being used as a MsFanservice and getting extra screentime for personal drama rather than the medical drama of patients and solving cases.
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Too one sided towards negative and doesn't even mention anyone who likes her.


** Masters being disliked by those who thought she was a CreatorsPet SpotlightStealingSquad during her Season 7 appearances.
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The trope's been cut by TRS.


* UnintentionallySympathetic: The ''very'' divorced parents of the [[IllGirl little]] [[TheWoobie girl]] in "Finding Judas" are dismissed as being worthless and annoying by all medical personnel they meet to the point where they temporarily ''lose custody'' of their child simply because they argued a lot while going through what can only be described as every parents' worst nightmare i.e. their child is slowly ''burning to death'' and not even the doctors know why. Even when they agree with advice from the doctors they are still treated as though they clearly don't care about their child and are unworthy of being parents!

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The ''very'' divorced parents of the [[IllGirl little]] little [[TheWoobie girl]] in "Finding Judas" are dismissed as being worthless and annoying by all medical personnel they meet to the point where they temporarily ''lose custody'' of their child simply because they argued a lot while going through what can only be described as every parents' worst nightmare i.e. their child is slowly ''burning to death'' and not even the doctors know why. Even when they agree with advice from the doctors they are still treated as though they clearly don't care about their child and are unworthy of being parents!
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Tastes Like Diabetes is no longer a trope. Moving examples to other tropes when applicable.


* TastesLikeDiabetes:
** In-universe; the episode where the team is treating a teenage patient who had a heart attack before his operation to have a deformed part of his skull removed. They're filmed the entire time due to the teenager being part of a documentary, with House constantly angry at the crew for putting his team under pressure and generally mocking the crew. In the very end, the crew sends House and Cuddy an early cut of the program to be aired... which paints House as an extremely caring doctor. House reacts in horror, although it's never revealed if it was genuine or not.
** "Autopsy" skirts being this for much of its running time, and eventually crosses into it outright in the penultimate scene, when Wilson reveals that [[spoiler:House's theory that the LittlestCancerPatient's bravery was a symptom of her medical disorder was incorrect, and that she really is just that brave after all, which inspires House into buying his motorcycle]].

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* FandomSpecificPlot: A ''lot'' of fanfictions focus on House and Wilson's road trip after the series finale and how they spend Wilson's final five months of life. To get even more specific, many of these fics specifically focus on the day Wilson actually dies, what his last moments are like and what his last words and thoughts are, and how House takes his passing. (Most authors go with "[[DespairEventHorizon not]] [[DrivenToSuicide well]].") A good portion of these are shipping fics, with House and Wilson [[RelationshipUpgrade officially getting together]] during the road trip.



* GottaShipEmAll: Foreman and Taub were the only characters to avoid rampant shipping. One of the more common non-canon pairings was [[LesYay Cameron and Thirteen]], two characters whose time on the show was minimal and who [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight never spoke directly to each other]].

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* GottaShipEmAll: Foreman and Taub were the only characters to avoid rampant shipping. One of the more common non-canon pairings was [[LesYay Cameron and Thirteen]], two characters whose overlapping time on the show was minimal and who [[ShipsThatPassInTheNight never spoke directly to each other]].
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** Considering all the team changes that House's team goes through in the later seasons, it can end up feeling like a bit of a waste that none of the doctors who ended up being fired during the application game episodes didn't get to make some sort of a comeback, such as replacing the future open spots on House's team.

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** Considering all the team changes that House's team goes through in the later seasons, it can end up feeling like a bit of a waste that none of the doctors who ended up being fired during the application game episodes didn't get got to make some sort of a comeback, such as replacing the future open spots on House's team.comeback.

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** In a lesser sense, Dr. Ashka and her WorthlessForeignDegree made a decent impression among House's applicants but she was eliminated after just one episode while other less developed characters got to stay a little longer.

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** Considering all the team changes that House's team goes through in the later seasons, it can end up feeling like a bit of a waste that none of the doctors who ended up being fired during the application game episodes didn't get to make some sort of a comeback, such as replacing the future open spots on House's team.
*** Dr. Cole (Big Love) in particular got a lot of development and screen time throughout the application episodes, yet he never got to reappear after his elimination.
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In a lesser sense, Dr. Ashka and her WorthlessForeignDegree made a decent impression among House's applicants but she was eliminated after just one episode while other less developed characters got to stay a little longer.
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** There is also the argument of whether or not his time in prison and his subsequent parole violation were undue punishment, or simply karma catching up to him. We're supposed to feel sorry when his parole violation might deny him spending time with Wilson in his last few months, yet he violated it through his own willful arrogance with a dumb prank that destroyed a significant portion of the hospital and an MRI machine. Then he chooses to fake his own death to avoid the consequences. Some may argue that House should know better than to do much of what he does, considerign he doesn't feel as if he should be punished for any of it.

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** There is also the argument of whether or not his time in prison and his subsequent parole violation were undue punishment, or simply karma catching up to him. We're supposed to feel sorry when his parole violation might deny him spending time with Wilson in his last few months, yet he violated it through his own willful arrogance with a dumb prank that destroyed a significant portion of the hospital and an MRI machine. Then he chooses to fake his own death to avoid the consequences. Some may argue that House should know better than to do much of what he does, considerign considering he doesn't feel as if he should be punished for any of it.
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not an example per ATT: they were always meant to show him as an ass


** Sure, part of the fun of the show is watching House be a mouthy jerk to everyone; still, the sexual comments he makes to various women, particularly his employees and co-workers, feel a lot less harmless in the post-#[=MeToo=] era.
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** Sure, part of the fun of the show is watching House be a mouthy jerk to everyone; still, the sexual comments he makes to various women, particularly his employees and co-workers, feel a lot less harmless in the post-#[=MeToo=] era.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Season 1's "Role Model" has the patient of the week, an African-American United States senator, running for president. The episode both directly and indirectly pillories as unrealistic his odds of winning the White House. Fast forward four years and an African-American US senator being elected president suddenly doesn't seem so unrealistic anymore.

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: Season 1's "Role Model" has the patient of the week, an African-American United States senator, running for president. The episode both directly and indirectly pillories as unrealistic his odds of winning the White House. Fast forward four years and [[UsefulNotes/BarackObama an African-American US senator being elected president president]] suddenly doesn't seem so unrealistic anymore.
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Rewrites approved by the FPC thread here and here


%%* FanPreferredCouple: House/Cuddy, House/Wilson, Thirteen/Kutner. (Zero Context: Doesn't mention a creator preferred pairing for any of these characters which is required to count as a Fan-Preferred Couple)

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%%* * FanPreferredCouple: While the canon WillTheyOrWontThey, House/Cuddy, House/Wilson, Thirteen/Kutner. (Zero Context: Doesn't mention a creator preferred pairing is quite popular, an even larger group of fans ship House with his best friend Wilson. This is mainly due to the chemistry and HoYay between them, along with the fact that they were designed to mimic the dynamic of Holmes/Watson (a popular ship in its own right) from ''Franchise/SherlockHolmes''. Even the final scene reveals that House faked his death in order to spend as much time as possible with Wilson, who has cancer, before Wilson dies. On [=AO3=], for any of these characters which is required to count as a Fan-Preferred Couple)example, House/Wilson easily outranks every other pairing.
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Requires 20 years to have passed to qualify.


* ValuesDissonance: Sure, part of the fun of the show is watching House be a mouthy jerk to everyone; still, the sexual comments he makes to various women, particularly his employees and co-workers, feel a lot less harmless in the post-#[=MeToo=] era.
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* FanPreferredCouple: House/Cuddy, House/Wilson, Thirteen/Kutner.

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* %%* FanPreferredCouple: House/Cuddy, House/Wilson, Thirteen/Kutner.Thirteen/Kutner. (Zero Context: Doesn't mention a creator preferred pairing for any of these characters which is required to count as a Fan-Preferred Couple)
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** The sub-plot from "Humpty Dumpty" where Foreman calls out House for duping an African-American patient into taking blood pressure medication that he had previously rejected under the mistaken belief that it was an inferior product because it was targeted specifically at African-Americans actually comes across as quite prescient nowadays, thanks to their being greater awareness of forms of subconscious racism. However, some fans felt it was undermined by having House be the person who duped the patient, seeing how he lies all the damn time to get people to take medication or undergo procedures, and that it would have worked better had it been Cameron or Chase, which would have allowed for more discussion of how a well-intentioned but patronizing act can come across, instead of just showing House being House yet again.

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** The sub-plot from "Humpty Dumpty" where Foreman calls out House for duping an African-American patient into taking blood pressure medication that he had previously rejected under the mistaken belief that it was an inferior product because it was targeted specifically at African-Americans African-Americans. It actually comes across as quite prescient nowadays, thanks to their there being greater awareness of forms of subconscious racism. However, some fans felt it was undermined by having House be the person who duped the patient, seeing how he lies all the damn time to get people to take medication or undergo procedures, and that it would have worked better had it been Cameron or Chase, which would have allowed for more discussion of how a well-intentioned but patronizing act can come across, instead of just showing House being House yet again.
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* ValuesDissonance: Sure, part of the fun of the show is watching House be a mouthy jerk to everyone; still, the sexual comments he makes to various women, particularly his employees and co-workers, feel a lot less harmless in the post-#[=MeToo=] era.
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It hasn't been 20 years since either the series began, or either of these episodes aired. If there's a source, they can be re-added as Unfortunate Implications entries


* ValuesDissonance: The moral of the clinic patient B-plot of the 2012 episode "Better Half" is unambiguously "Anybody who claims to be asexual is either lying or suffering from a medical condition that can be cured." The episode also takes for granted claims such as "asexual men cannot achieve erection" and "only other asexuals can be in relationships with asexuals". It's infamous in the [[UsefulNotes/{{asexuality}} asexual]] community.
** House's constant sexualizing of the teenage supermodel already felt somewhat creepy but only comes off as disgusting now.
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The ''very'' divorced parents of the [[IllGirl little]] [[TheWoobie girl]] in "Finding Judas" are dismissed as being worthless and annoying by all medical personnel they meet to the point where they temporarily ''lose custody'' of their child simply because they argued a lot while going through what can only be described as [[AdultFear every parents' worst nightmare]] i.e. their child is slowly ''burning to death'' and not even the doctors know why. Even when they agree with advice from the doctors they are still treated as though they clearly don't care about their child and are unworthy of being parents!

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The ''very'' divorced parents of the [[IllGirl little]] [[TheWoobie girl]] in "Finding Judas" are dismissed as being worthless and annoying by all medical personnel they meet to the point where they temporarily ''lose custody'' of their child simply because they argued a lot while going through what can only be described as [[AdultFear every parents' worst nightmare]] nightmare i.e. their child is slowly ''burning to death'' and not even the doctors know why. Even when they agree with advice from the doctors they are still treated as though they clearly don't care about their child and are unworthy of being parents!
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* ValuesDissonance: The moral of the clinic patient B-plot of the 2012 episode "Better Half" is unambiguously "Anybody who claims to be asexual is either lying or suffering from a medical condition that can be cured." The episode also takes as granted claims such as "asexual men cannot achieve erection" and "only other asexuals can be in relationships with asexuals". It's infamous in the [[UsefulNotes/{{asexuality}} asexual]] community.

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* ValuesDissonance: The moral of the clinic patient B-plot of the 2012 episode "Better Half" is unambiguously "Anybody who claims to be asexual is either lying or suffering from a medical condition that can be cured." The episode also takes as for granted claims such as "asexual men cannot achieve erection" and "only other asexuals can be in relationships with asexuals". It's infamous in the [[UsefulNotes/{{asexuality}} asexual]] community.
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* ValuesDissonance: The moral of the clinic patient B-plot of the 2012 episode "Better Half" is unambiguously "Anybody who claims to be asexual is either lying or suffering from a medical condition that can be cured." It's infamous in the [[UsefulNotes/{{asexuality}} asexual]] community.

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* ValuesDissonance: The moral of the clinic patient B-plot of the 2012 episode "Better Half" is unambiguously "Anybody who claims to be asexual is either lying or suffering from a medical condition that can be cured." The episode also takes as granted claims such as "asexual men cannot achieve erection" and "only other asexuals can be in relationships with asexuals". It's infamous in the [[UsefulNotes/{{asexuality}} asexual]] community.

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