History YMMV / House

31st Jul '16 3:38:38 PM ApeAccount
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** Park, to a lesser extent; while quite a few fans consider her to be absolutely hilarious and easily the best thing about Season 8, others resent her for swallowing up all the character development episodes in the season, meaning that Adams ends up falling into the background once Park joins the cast.

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** Park, to a lesser extent; while quite a few fans consider her to be absolutely hilarious and easily the best thing about Season 8, others resent her for swallowing up all the character development episodes in the season, meaning that Adams ends up falling into the background once Park joins the cast. For some she falls in the category of loveably adorable, for others she fails to live up to the dramatic quality standard set by the rest of the show's characters.
30th Jul '16 5:35:38 PM supermerlin100
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is House a soulless {{Jerkass}} misanthrope, or a doctor profoundly committed to medical ethics beyond all reason?
** "Committed to medical ethics beyond all reason" must mean "committed to saving patients' lives, [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight regardless of medical or other conventional forms of ethics]]." The latter is very possible, but House violates medical ethics whenever he wants to. The positive spin on it is that he cares [[UsefulNotes/EthicalHedonism about good results rather than how they are achieved.]] One can view his ethics as better than conventional medical ethics, but he definitely doesn't care about what are viewed as "medical ethics."
*** If medical ethics aren't about preserving human life, then they aren't very ethical.
*** Then conventional medical ethics aren't very ethical. Things like breaking into patients' homes to find causes for their illnesses, making patients crash because you believe they eventually will and you want to get to the next treatment, etc., are against conventional medical ethics. [[UsefulNotes/EthicalHedonism There are good ways]] [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight to justify House's actions towards patients]], but they aren't in line with what are viewed as medical ethics. That's why Cuddy has said she gets the world's best doctor cheaply, in that House would have a hard time being employed in most hospitals.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is House a soulless {{Jerkass}} misanthrope, who's only in it for the puzzle, or a doctor profoundly committed to saving his patients regardless of the law, traditional medical ethics beyond all reason?
** "Committed to medical ethics beyond all reason" must mean "committed to saving patients' lives, [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight regardless of medical
or other conventional forms of ethics]]." The latter is very possible, but House violates medical ethics whenever he wants to. The positive spin on it is that he cares [[UsefulNotes/EthicalHedonism about good results rather than how they are achieved.]] One can view his ethics as better than conventional medical ethics, but he definitely doesn't care about what are viewed as "medical ethics."
*** If medical ethics aren't about preserving human life, then they aren't very ethical.
*** Then conventional medical ethics aren't very ethical. Things like breaking into patients' homes to find causes for their illnesses, making patients crash because you believe they eventually will and you want to get to the next treatment, etc., are against conventional medical ethics. [[UsefulNotes/EthicalHedonism There are good ways]] [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight to justify House's actions towards patients]], but they aren't in line with what are viewed as medical ethics. That's why Cuddy has said she gets the world's best doctor cheaply, in that House would have a hard time being employed in most hospitals.
common sense?
19th Jul '16 2:46:04 AM AdamC
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** During the Volger arc, House makes a speech about Volger's business practices, and how the repeatedly uses underhanded tactics to avoid dropping prices on his medications, making sure they remain as high-priced as possible. While this has always been a commonplace occurrence in pharmaceuticals, arbitrary price-hiking of vital medication became an especially hot-button issue in 2015, when a company increased the cost of an HIV-treating medicine from $13 a pill to $750 a pill. With the national scandal that arose from the action and Martin Shkreli (the man responsible) being called "The Most Hated Man In America" for the action, it's rather hard to see House in the wrong for refusing to go along with Vogler's speech.
16th Jul '16 3:36:59 AM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker:

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter:
2nd Jul '16 5:32:19 PM AdamC
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*** The same episode also contains a scene where a patient attempted a self-circumcision with a pair of box-cutters. Included a GoryDiscretionShot but the description and the fact that even ''House'' was horrified was enough to invoke this reaction in the audience.



** Season 7: "Jan Martin just won first place in the Chili Cook-off. Congratulations, Jan! That cocoa powder really did it!" Also counts as a MoodWhiplash, because the announcement happens right after an intense emotional scene between House and Thirteen.

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** Season 7: "Jan Martin just won first place in the Chili Cook-off. Congratulations, Jan! That cocoa powder really did it!" Also counts as a MoodWhiplash, because the announcement happens right after an intense emotional scene between House and Thirteen.Thirteen
10th Jun '16 12:38:39 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* InformedWrongness: In the first season's Vogler arc, everybody is pissed off with House because he wouldn't give official praise to a drug produced by Vogler's firm, which is just an "improved" version of an older drug, only much more expensive. [[WhatTheHellHero Seriously heroes, wtf?]] First, Vogler was ''forcing a doctor'' into praising his ''commercial'' product. Second, tricking patients into paying more than necessary for a ''medicine'' they ''need'' is still unethical even if the expensive version also works. Third, House initially agreed to do it, but in the end couldn't bring himself to, which was shown to be not out of spite but out of moral obligation. Vogler was not just being bossy or annoying, he was being downright ''immoral''. And had House gone along, this would not have been the last time Vogler would have forced him to lie to further Vogler's professional interests. House was acting according to his professional integrity by standing up to him, but he got smacked for it. (Compare and contrast season three's Tritter arc, where the antagonist is similarly petty and unfair, but House is actually making it worse by being an actual selfish prick, and actually brought the problems on himself by being a JerkAss in the first place; Tritter was wrong only because he was extracting DisproportionateRetribution.)

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* InformedWrongness: In the first season's Vogler arc, everybody is pissed off with House because he wouldn't give official praise to a drug produced by Vogler's firm, which is just an "improved" version of an older drug, only much more expensive. [[WhatTheHellHero Seriously heroes, wtf?]] First, Vogler was ''forcing a doctor'' into praising his ''commercial'' product. Second, tricking patients into paying more than necessary for a ''medicine'' they ''need'' is still unethical even if the expensive version also works. Third, House initially agreed to do it, but in the end couldn't bring himself to, which was shown to be not out of spite but out of moral obligation. Vogler was not just being bossy or annoying, he was being downright ''immoral''. And had House gone along, this would not have been the last time Vogler would have forced him to lie to further Vogler's professional interests. House was acting according to his professional integrity (for once) by standing up to him, but he got smacked for it. (Compare and contrast season three's Tritter arc, where the antagonist is similarly petty and unfair, but House is actually making it worse by being an actual selfish prick, and actually brought the problems on himself by being a JerkAss in the first place; Tritter was wrong only because he was extracting DisproportionateRetribution.)
24th May '16 6:29:44 AM bombadilla
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* InformedWrongness: In the first season's Vogler arc, everybody is pissed off with House because he wouldn't give official praise to a drug produced by Vogler's firm, which is just an "improved" version of an older drug, only much more expensive. [[WhatTheHellHero Seriously heroes, wtf?]] First, Vogler was ''forcing'' a doctor into praising his ''commercial'' product. Second, tricking patients into paying more than necessary for a ''medicine'' they ''need'' is still unethical even if the expensive version also works. Third, House initially agreed to do it, but in the end couldn't bring himself to, which was shown to be not out of spite but out of moral obligation. Vogler was not just being bossy or annoying, he was being downright ''immoral''. And had House gone along, this would have not been the last time Vogler would have forced him to lie to further Vogler's professional interests. House was acting according to his professional integrity by standing up to him, but he got smacked for it. (Compare and contrast season three's Tritter arc, where the antagonist is similarly petty and unfair, but House is actually making it worse by being an actual selfish prick, and actually brought the problems on himself by being a JerkAss in the first place; Tritter was wrong only because he was extracting DisproportionateRetribution.)

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* InformedWrongness: In the first season's Vogler arc, everybody is pissed off with House because he wouldn't give official praise to a drug produced by Vogler's firm, which is just an "improved" version of an older drug, only much more expensive. [[WhatTheHellHero Seriously heroes, wtf?]] First, Vogler was ''forcing'' ''forcing a doctor doctor'' into praising his ''commercial'' product. Second, tricking patients into paying more than necessary for a ''medicine'' they ''need'' is still unethical even if the expensive version also works. Third, House initially agreed to do it, but in the end couldn't bring himself to, which was shown to be not out of spite but out of moral obligation. Vogler was not just being bossy or annoying, he was being downright ''immoral''. And had House gone along, this would not have not been the last time Vogler would have forced him to lie to further Vogler's professional interests. House was acting according to his professional integrity by standing up to him, but he got smacked for it. (Compare and contrast season three's Tritter arc, where the antagonist is similarly petty and unfair, but House is actually making it worse by being an actual selfish prick, and actually brought the problems on himself by being a JerkAss in the first place; Tritter was wrong only because he was extracting DisproportionateRetribution.)
1st May '16 4:52:27 AM Adept
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: House is the ''[[UrExample ultimate]]'' example of DrJerk (and a JerkSue at that) while one of the ongoing arcs of the series is that he is an incredibly toxic influence on anybody who has to deal with him for an extended period of time (which turns ''everybody else in the cast'' into a DrJerk, and a seriously hostile and backstabbing one at that in various examples), and while many people are saved by them there is the InferredHolocaust of how much their lives will be destroyed (in the long or short term) by the secrets that House forces them to disclose... after some time it may be pretty hard to watch.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: House is the ''[[UrExample ultimate]]'' example of DrJerk (and a JerkSue at that) while one of the ongoing arcs of the series is that he is an incredibly toxic influence on anybody who has to deal with him for an extended period of time (which turns ''everybody else in the cast'' into a DrJerk, and a seriously hostile and backstabbing one at that in various examples), and while many people are saved by them there is the InferredHolocaust of how much their lives will be destroyed (in the long or short term) by the secrets that House forces them to disclose... after some time it may be pretty hard to watch.



* JerkSue: House is this to the nth power-- he's misanthropic, hateful, abusive and mean, but it's because he's such an all-knowing ''genius'' that everyone's just an idiot compared to him that he can't help it; he puts idiot-strangers in their place, plays mind-games on his friends because they deserve or need it-- and don't ask what he does to anyone unfortunate enough to get on his ''bad'' side. Whenever someone else tries to do the things House does in the show they're hit by a hard case of RealityEnsues, just because they're not House.
22nd Jan '16 1:38:58 PM marcoasalazarm
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: House is the ''[[TropeCodifier ultimate]]'' example of DrJerk (and a JerkSue at that) while one of the ongoing arcs of the series is that he is an incredibly toxic influence on anybody who has to deal with him for an extended period of time (which turns ''everybody else in the cast'' into a DrJerk, and a seriously hostile and backstabbing one at that in various examples), and while many people are saved by them there is the InferredHolocaust of how much their lives will be destroyed (in the long or short term) by the secrets that House forces them to disclose... after some time it may be pretty hard to watch.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: House is the ''[[TropeCodifier ''[[UrExample ultimate]]'' example of DrJerk (and a JerkSue at that) while one of the ongoing arcs of the series is that he is an incredibly toxic influence on anybody who has to deal with him for an extended period of time (which turns ''everybody else in the cast'' into a DrJerk, and a seriously hostile and backstabbing one at that in various examples), and while many people are saved by them there is the InferredHolocaust of how much their lives will be destroyed (in the long or short term) by the secrets that House forces them to disclose... after some time it may be pretty hard to watch.
20th Jan '16 8:24:56 PM marcoasalazarm
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: House is the ''[[TropeCodifier ultimate]]'' example of DrJerk (and a JerkSue at that) while one of the ongoing arcs of the series is that he is an incredibly toxic influence on anybody who has to deal with him for an extended period of time (which turns ''everybody else in the cast'' into a DrJerk, and a seriously hostile and backstabbing one at that in various examples), and while many people are saved by them there is the InferredHolocaust of how much their lives will be destroyed (in the long or short term) by the secrets that House forces them to disclose... after some time it may be pretty hard to watch.
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