History YMMV / House

18th Feb '18 12:10:15 PM KizunaTallis
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is House a soulless {{Jerkass}} misanthrope, who's only in it for the puzzle, or a doctor profoundly committed to saving his patients regardless of the law, traditional medical ethics or common sense? He argues that the non-compassionate approach is more successful as shown by this quote: "What would you prefer-a doctor who holds your hand while you die or one who ignores you while you get better?".

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Is House a soulless {{Jerkass}} misanthrope, who's only in it for the puzzle, or a JerkWithAHeartOfGold doctor profoundly committed to saving his patients regardless of the law, traditional medical ethics or common sense? He argues that the non-compassionate approach is more successful as shown by this quote: "What would you prefer-a prefer - a doctor who holds your hand while you die or one who ignores you while you get better?".



** The Volger arc in season one was disliked for similar reasons. Having a megalomaniacal hospital administrator harass House did not exactly endear fans. In later interviews, [[WordOfGod David Shore]] admitted that [[ExecutiveMeddling he was forced to write the plotline to appease Fox executives]], mainly because House struggled in the ratings during season one. Fortunately, by the time that sideplot ended, ratings were healthy enough for renewal, so Shore was able to get rid of the character.

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** The Volger arc in season one was disliked for similar reasons. Having a megalomaniacal hospital administrator harass House did not exactly endear fans. In later interviews, [[WordOfGod David Shore]] admitted that [[ExecutiveMeddling he was forced to write the plotline to appease Fox executives]], mainly because House struggled in the ratings during season one. Fortunately, by the time that sideplot side plot ended, ratings were healthy enough for renewal, so Shore was able to get rid of the character.



** A big and often used is if you are a genius who other people have to depend on, you can basically be a dick to everyone without many consequences. Though this is more of a TruthInTelevision variety because often those who don't have to deal with you constantly will let you get away with being an ass if you are good for the bottom line. However, the verse Aesop is also given which is much more family friendly. To wit:
*** 1 House will often intentionally behave like even more of a complete and utter dick than his own natural personality would be, simply because he can. While often it's played for laughs, his cavalier/antisocial/sociopathic tendencies have more than once lead to a patient ending up with lifelong injuries that wouldn't have happened if everyone had just done their job right the first time, at which points he usually feels legitimate remorse and sometimes contemplates (however briefly) if he should really keep doing things that way.
*** 2 nod to realism early on, when Cuddy mentions that she got him for a steal, salary-wise, because his rampant JerkAss tendencies meant that no one else would ever hire him.

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** A big and often used is if you are a genius who other people have to depend on, you can basically be a dick to everyone without many with little to no consequences. Though this is more of a TruthInTelevision variety because often those who don't have to deal with you constantly will let you get away with being an ass if you are good for the bottom line. However, the verse Aesop is also given which is much more family friendly. To wit:
*** 1 1) House will often intentionally behave like even more of a complete and utter dick than his own natural personality would be, simply because he can. While often it's played for laughs, his cavalier/antisocial/sociopathic tendencies have more than once lead to a patient ending up with lifelong injuries that wouldn't have happened if everyone had just done their job right the first time, at which points he usually feels legitimate remorse and sometimes contemplates (however briefly) if he should really keep doing things that way.
*** 2 2) In a nod to realism early on, when Cuddy mentions that she got him for a steal, salary-wise, because his rampant JerkAss tendencies meant that no one else would ever hire him.



** Season eight episode "Parents" has a virginal 16 year old male get symptoms of partial paralysis that wound up being caused by syphilis. Since the disease wasn't given by his mother through child birth, House realized that the patient got it from his estranged father, the one he idolized to the point of wanting to be a clown (his dad's profession) to make kids happy. Pretty unsettling to begin with, but given the Penn State sex scandal still fresh on everyone's minds (the episode first aired on November 14th, 2011), even more so.

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** Season eight episode "Parents" has a virginal 16 year old 16-year-old male get symptoms of partial paralysis that wound up being caused by syphilis. Since the disease wasn't given by his mother through child birth, childbirth, House realized that the patient got it from his estranged father, the one he idolized to the point of wanting to be a clown (his dad's profession) to make kids happy. Pretty unsettling to begin with, but given the Penn State sex scandal still fresh on everyone's minds (the episode first aired on November 14th, 2011), even more so.



** In "Informed Consent" and "Lines in the sand" a girl played by Leighton Meester develops an infatuation with House. Both Hugh Laurie and Leighton Meester were in 'The Oranges' in which their characters engaged in affair.

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** In "Informed Consent" and "Lines in the sand" a girl played by Leighton Meester develops an infatuation with House. Both Hugh Laurie and Leighton Meester were in 'The Oranges' in which their characters engaged in an affair.



* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: House chewing out some idiot vegan parents for forcing their baby to live on almond milk, tofu, and raw vegetables [[spoiler: (subverted when it turns out they hired a nutritionist to make sure the diet was appropriate for a baby, cluing House in there was another reason for her illness)]]:
---> '''House:''' Raw food. If only our ancestors had mastered the secret of ''fire''. Babies need fat, proteins, calories. Less important, sprouts and hemp. Starving babies is ''bad''. Not to mention ''illegal'' in many cultures. I'm having her admitted.
** The overall theme of the show is that it's better to be completely honest with your doctor, even if it's at severe emotional cost, than it is to die.

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The overall theme of the show is that it's better to be completely honest with your doctor, even if it's at severe emotional cost, than it is to die.
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House chewing out some idiot vegan parents for forcing their baby to live on almond milk, tofu, and raw vegetables [[spoiler: (subverted when it turns out they hired vegetables. Although [[spoiler:they did consult a nutritionist to make sure the diet was appropriate for a baby, cluing House in there was another reason for her illness)]]:
---> '''House:'''
illness]], the point nonetheless stands.
-->'''House:'''
Raw food. If only our ancestors had mastered the secret of ''fire''. Babies need fat, proteins, calories. Less important, sprouts and hemp. Starving babies is ''bad''. Not to mention ''illegal'' in many cultures. I'm having her admitted.
** The overall theme of On a similar note, there's the show is that it's better to be completely honest with your doctor, even if it's at severe emotional cost, than it is to die.scene where [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urZLTobAfJc House calls out a mother who isn't vaccinating her baby daughter]].
-->'''House:''' You know what's a good business? Teeny tiny baby coffins.



** The writers seem to have some weird ideas on communicating with children about sex... one episode featured a mother who never lied to her 10 year old-ish daughter. As such, the daughter NATURALLY knew the mother's sexual preferences and how they have changed ("She used to like being on top, but now she likes being face-down") and an older brother PromotedToParent telling Foreman it's fine for him to speak about anallingus... in front of his two underage siblings. Huh.
** Given the regular appearance of things that would gross out a police coroner, they're included for the obvious reason of presenting a gross-out factor to the audience; while the apparent pretense is "realism," this is contradicted by the fact that doctors are ''used'' to it. This is lampshaded in at least once instance, in which House is, as usual, trying to mooch off of Wilson's lunch; Wilson responds "if you're trying to gross me out," and relates what he deals with daily as the head of the Oncology department.

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** The writers seem to have some weird ideas on communicating with children about sex... one sex. One episode featured a mother who never lied to her 10 year old-ish 10-year-old-ish daughter. As such, the daughter NATURALLY ''naturally'' knew the mother's sexual preferences and how they have changed ("She used to like being on top, but now she likes being face-down") and an older brother PromotedToParent telling Foreman it's fine for him to speak about anallingus...analingus... in front of his two underage siblings. Huh.
** Given the regular appearance of things that would gross out a police coroner, they're included for the obvious reason of presenting a gross-out factor to the audience; while the apparent pretense is "realism," this is contradicted by the fact that doctors are ''used'' to it. This is lampshaded in at least once one instance, in which House is, as usual, trying to mooch off of Wilson's lunch; Wilson responds "if you're trying to gross me out," and relates what he deals with daily as the head of the Oncology department.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: A rare case where the strawman is the lead character. In Fetal Position, Cuddy takes a risky course of action, motivated by her desire to save a woman's fetus, when House wants to terminate the pregnancy. The show makes it clear that Cuddy is supposed to be considered right but House's course of action was probably much more advisable. As he himself points out at the end of the episode, 9.9 times out of 10, Cuddy's course of action would have killed both mother and child, whereas House's would save the mother 10 out of 10 times.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: A rare case where the strawman is the lead character. In Fetal Position, "Fetal Position", Cuddy takes a risky course of action, motivated by her desire to save a woman's fetus, when House wants to terminate the pregnancy. The show makes it clear that Cuddy is supposed to be considered right but House's course of action was probably much more advisable. As he himself points out at the end of the episode, 9.9 times out of 10, Cuddy's course of action would have killed both mother and child, whereas House's would save the mother 10 out of 10 times.



* UnfortunateImplications: The episode ''Better Half'' sent the message that asexuals are all either in denial or have a hormone imbalance, accusations real-life asexuals have to deal with from people who don't realise it's a legitimate orientation. [[http://skepticsplay.blogspot.ca/2012/01/house-did-not-do-research.html The]] [[http://www.salon.com/2012/01/31/house_gets_asexuality_wrong/ asexual]] [[https://equal-writes.org/2012/02/07/house-tackles-asexuality/ community]] [[http://queereka.com/2012/01/24/asexuality-on-house-m-d/ was]] ''[[http://asexuality.livejournal.com/871977.html not]]'' [[https://writingfromfactorx.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/this-is-not-my-better-half/ pleased]] [[http://meganchristopher.net/asexuality-on-house-youre-doing-it-wrong/ by]] [[https://kinseyconfidential.org/illness-deception-asexuality-house-md/ this.]]
* UnintentionallySympathetic: The ''very'' divorced parents of the [[IllGirl little]] [[TheWoobie girl]] in "Finding Judas" are dismissed as being as being worthless and annoying by all medical personal they meet to the point where they temporarily ''lose custody'' of their child simply because they argued a lot while going through what can only be described as [[AdultFear every parents worst nightmare]] i.e their child is slowly ''burning to death'' and not even the doctors know why. Even when they agree with advice from the doctors they are still treated as though they clearly don't care about their child and are unworthy of being parents!

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* UnfortunateImplications: The episode ''Better Half'' "Better Half" sent the message that asexuals are all either in denial or have a hormone imbalance, accusations real-life asexuals have to deal with from people who don't realise realize it's a legitimate orientation. [[http://skepticsplay.blogspot.ca/2012/01/house-did-not-do-research.html The]] [[http://www.salon.com/2012/01/31/house_gets_asexuality_wrong/ asexual]] [[https://equal-writes.org/2012/02/07/house-tackles-asexuality/ community]] [[http://queereka.com/2012/01/24/asexuality-on-house-m-d/ was]] ''[[http://asexuality.livejournal.com/871977.html not]]'' [[https://writingfromfactorx.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/this-is-not-my-better-half/ pleased]] [[http://meganchristopher.net/asexuality-on-house-youre-doing-it-wrong/ by]] [[https://kinseyconfidential.org/illness-deception-asexuality-house-md/ this.]]
* UnintentionallySympathetic: The ''very'' divorced parents of the [[IllGirl little]] [[TheWoobie girl]] in "Finding Judas" are dismissed as being as being worthless and annoying by all medical personal personnel they meet to the point where they temporarily ''lose custody'' of their child simply because they argued a lot while going through what can only be described as [[AdultFear every parents parents' worst nightmare]] i.e their child is slowly ''burning to death'' and not even the doctors know why. Even when they agree with advice from the doctors they are still treated as though they clearly don't care about their child and are unworthy of being parents!



** In season 5 House effectively cures his chronic pain with methadone. He voluntarily goes back to using vicodin and his pain because it makes him a better doctor. This makes any subsequent pain or drug-related angst hard to take seriously.

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** In season 5 House effectively cures his chronic pain with methadone. He voluntarily goes back to using vicodin Vicodin and his pain because it makes him a better doctor. This makes any subsequent pain or drug-related angst hard to take seriously.



* WTHCastingAgency: Misanthropic American doctor... Creator/HughLaurie? (oh... right, then. Carry on.)
** Though Bryan Singer was genuinely fooled by his accent in the audition.

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* WTHCastingAgency: Misanthropic American doctor... Creator/HughLaurie? (oh... right, then. Carry on.)
** Though
doctor being played by British comedian Creator/HughLaurie (though Bryan Singer was genuinely fooled by his accent in the audition.audition)? This later led to HeReallyCanAct.
15th Jan '18 2:22:46 AM AdamC
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** A another example is the Tritter arc in season three. Seven episodes of a grumpy cop harassing and arresting House and his interns, [[DisproportionateRetribution primarily motivated by a poor meeting with House leading to him fishing for evidence to imprison him.]] For most fans, these episodes were insufferable, made even worse when [[StatusQuoIsGod there was no permanent consequences that resulted from making House and his co-workers unhinged during that time]]. This and the Volger arc above were such disasters that the show never attempted to write an ArcVillain again, and instead just focused on personal drama and medical mysteries.
10th Jan '18 10:41:51 PM Polokun
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* InformedWrongness: In the first season's Vogler arc, everybody is pissed off with House because he wouldn't give official praise to a drug produced by Vogler's firm, which is just an "improved" version of an older drug, only much more expensive. First, Vogler was ''forcing a doctor'' into praising his ''commercial'' product. Second, tricking patients into paying more than necessary for a ''medicine'' they ''need'' is still unethical even if the expensive version also works. Third, House initially agreed to do it, but in the end couldn't bring himself to, which was shown to be not out of spite but out of moral obligation. Vogler was not just being bossy or annoying, he was being downright ''immoral''. And had House gone along, this would not have been the last time Vogler would have forced him to lie to further Vogler's professional interests. House was acting according to his professional integrity (for once) by standing up to him, but he got smacked for it. (Compare and contrast season three's Tritter arc, where the antagonist is similarly petty and unfair, but House is actually making it worse by being an actual selfish prick, and actually brought the problems on himself by being a JerkAss in the first place; Tritter was wrong only because he was extracting DisproportionateRetribution.)

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* InformedWrongness: In the first season's Vogler arc, everybody is pissed off with House because he wouldn't give official praise to a drug produced by Vogler's firm, which is just an "improved" version of an older drug, only much more expensive. First, Vogler was ''forcing a doctor'' into praising his ''commercial'' product. Second, tricking patients into paying more than necessary for a ''medicine'' they ''need'' is still unethical even if the expensive version also works. Third, House initially agreed to do it, but in the end couldn't bring himself to, which was shown to be not out of spite but out of moral obligation. Vogler was not just being bossy or annoying, he was being downright ''immoral''. And had House gone along, this would not have been the last time Vogler would have forced him to lie to further Vogler's professional interests. House was acting according to his professional integrity (for once) by standing up to him, but he got smacked for it. (Compare and contrast season three's Tritter arc, where the antagonist is similarly petty and unfair, but House is actually making it worse by being an actual selfish prick, and actually brought the problems on himself by being a JerkAss in the first place; Tritter was wrong only because he was extracting DisproportionateRetribution.) place.
10th Jan '18 10:39:13 PM Polokun
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** A more specific example is the Tritter arc in season three. Seven episodes of a grumpy cop harassing and arresting House and his interns, [[DisproportionateRetribution only because Tritter didn't like how the good doctor treated him during his visit]]. For most fans, these episodes were insufferable, made even worse when [[StatusQuoIsGod there was no permanent consequences that resulted from making House and his co-workers unhinged during that time]].
25th Dec '17 3:02:48 AM juniperlove15
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: The ''very'' divorced parents of the [[IllGirl little]] [[TheWoobie girl]] in "Finding Judas" are dismissed as being as being worthless and annoying by all medical personal they meet to the point where they temporarily ''lose custody'' of their child simply because they argued a lot while going through what can only be described as [[AdultFear every parents worst nightmare]] i.e their child is slowly ''burning to death'' and not even the doctors know why. Even when they agree with advice from the doctors they are still treated as though they clearly don't care about their child and are unworthy of being parents!
18th Dec '17 12:22:55 AM ApeAccount
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** It's not enough for House to [[spoiler: cure a patient just so the man will give him money to refund his diagnostics department so House could get his offices back]], and to do so, the man had to [[spoiler: move his factories to China, resulting in hundreds of jobs lost]]. No, House also decides to [[spoiler: buy $5000 in stock options from the man's company before the move, resulting in a $200,000 net gain for House, which he simply pockets]]. Yes, we all know House is a selfish ManipulativeBastard, but to [[spoiler: ruin the lives of hundreds just so he could have his offices back ''and'' pocket 200 grand he doesn't even need]] pushes House from mere {{Jerkass}} to full-on DiabolicalMastermind territory.
12th Dec '17 10:05:33 AM Anddrix
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** The Series Finale, which seems to have entered LoveItOrHateIt territory.

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** The Series Finale, which seems to have entered LoveItOrHateIt territory.Finale.
31st Oct '17 12:01:08 PM Larkmarn
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** Season 7: "Jan Martin just won first place in the Chili Cook-off. Congratulations, Jan! That cocoa powder really did it!" Also counts as a MoodWhiplash, because the announcement happens right after an intense emotional scene between House and Thirteen.
31st Oct '17 11:55:19 AM justthefactsmaam
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** Bobbin Bergstrom, who plays Evil Nurse Brenda and was originally one of the show's on-set medical advisers, has appeared more than any character other than the main six as a nurse. This includes the new team - she's been in 69 episodes to Taub and 13's 39.

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** Bobbin Bergstrom, who plays Evil Nurse Brenda and Bergstrom was originally one of the show's on-set medical advisers, advisers and has appeared more than any character other than the main six as a nurse. This includes the new team - she's been in 69 episodes to Taub and 13's 39.



** In "No More Mr. Nice Guy," also in season 4, Chase tells House, "[Amber's] good. At being bad. You might not be able to destroy her." Ouch.

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** In "No More Mr. Nice Guy," also in season 4, Chase tells House, "[Amber's] good. At [[spoiler: "Amber's]] good...at being bad. You might not be able [[spoiler: to destroy her." Ouch."]] ''Ouch.''
31st Oct '17 11:44:01 AM justthefactsmaam
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** In "No More Mr. Nice Guy," also in season 4, Chase tells House, "[Amber's] good. At being bad. You might not be able to destroy her." Ouch.
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