History YMMV / HALLOWEEN

* MotiveDecay: Inverted: Michael's motives are actually fleshed out in Rob Zombie's reboot. However, it turns out the fans liked it more when Michael was a soulless, mysterious psychopath, probably because the "motive" explained in the remake pretty much boils down to a FreudianExcuse.

** During the commentary for ''Film/FreddyVsJason'', the director mentioned that the studios were in talks to include Micheal in a possible sequel (said talks didn't go anywhere). The director suggested the plot would have involved [[Franchise/ANightmareOnElmStreet Freddy Kruger]] and [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards teaming up to beat Michael, implicitly saying that Michael is worse than either of them.]] To put that in perspective, Freddy is a ''child rapist'' and Jason has the highest body count of any slasher movie villain.

* YMMV/{{Halloween 1978}}''

* AssPull: The Man In Black of ''Halloween 5''. WordOfGod claims that they didn't even know who he should be before the sixth film was made.
** John Carpenter himself admits that while writing ''Halloween II'', the idea of Laurie being Michael's sister came to him "at 2:00 in the morning in front of a typewriter with a six pack of beer."
** The whole "Michael replaces an ambulance worker for himself at the end of ''H20''" move at the start of ''Resurrection''. Even hardcore fans of the series didn't buy that one.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Take a wild guess.
** Also, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6DjIm82J2U The Shape Stalks Again]].
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J82gFhtMdmE The main theme]] is considered one of the most bone-chilling pieces ever put on screen.
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In ''The Curse of Michael Myers'', the lead pipe wielding Tommy Doyle begins beating the crap out of Michael in a scene involving a near seizure inducing strobe light effect. Tommy hits Michael over and over again, eventually causing some kind of viscous green slime to begin oozing out of Michael's mask. Later, when Michael's mask is found abandoned, its completely clean, with no weird sludge coating it.
** Several of Michael and Laurie's fantasy sequences in ''Halloween 2'' (2009) border on this, especially the one with the pumpkinheaded aristocrats.
** ''Season of the Witch'' is one giant BLAM for the series since it has absolutely no relation to the rest of the franchise other than something evil happening around October 31st.

** During the commentary for ''Film/FreddyVsJason'', the director mentioned that the studios were in talks to include Micheal in a possible sequal(said talks didn't go anywhere). The director suggested the plot would involved [[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet Freddy Kruger]] and [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards teaming up to beat Michael, implicitly saying that Michael is worse than either of them.]] To put that in perspective, Freddy is a ''child rapist'' and Jason has the highest body count of any slasher movie villain.
*** Unlike {{F|orTheEvulz}}reddy or [[CrazySurvivalist Jason]], Michael doesn't have ''any'' reason or motivation for his killing, or a life outside his murders. Killing people is all he does.
* ContestedSequel: The second movie, though it's certainly one of the better received sequels.
* EvilIsSexy: When he's unmasked in the first film, Michael is surprisingly attractive.
* FanonDiscontinuity: Many fans prefer to regard Halloween: H20 as the ending to the original series, and because of Halloween: Resurrection's failure, they try to ignore it.
* FauxSymbolism: Rob Zombie's ''Halloween II'' is ''LOADED'' with this.

* HesJustHiding: Jimmy of ''Halloween II''.
* HellIsThatNoise: The main theme. Seriously, after watching the movie, try listening to it without getting the chills. ''Just try it.''
* MagnificentBastard: Oddly (and infuriatingly) enough, Dr. Loomis was turned into one of these in the ''Halloween 2'' remake.

* {{Narm}}: In the original film, Laurie runs across the street with Michael stalking her. She runs up to the door of the house and reaches into her pocket to find the keys. Her line?
--> '''Laurie:''' ''The keys?'' '''''THE KEEEEYS?!'''''
** The theme is a bit overplayed in the beginning of the movie as well.
** In the Zombie remake, we have Michael bursting through a car windshield followed by Dr. Loomis shouting "MICHAEL! JESUS CHRIST!" as if he were reacting to someone spilling coffee on the floor. The line even became a meme in the Dread Central podcast and forums, usually used whenever Malcolm [=McDowell=] is mentioned.
** There's a bit in ''Halloween 5'' where Jamie screams out Cookie Woman after gaining a vision of Tina in trouble. The line wouldn't the narm, but its the fact Dr. Loomis, being half-crazed, pretty much is forcing Jamie in screaming out where Tina was, leading to the Cookie Woman line.
* NarmCharm: The original film has equal measures of IdiotPlot, PurpleProse, and MundaneMadeAwesome RuleOfScary overshadows them so much that they're all excused.
* NightmareFuel: Let's start with [[http://www.artofthetitle.com/2008/10/31/halloween/ the creepy floating jack-o-lantern]] in the original's opening credits and go from there...
* OneSceneWonder: Ken Foree in the remake - ''"I'M BIG JOE GRIZZLY, BITCH!"''
* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Covered by WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0G_8gHDsL8 his review of the video game version]].
* RetroactiveRecognition: The original Michael Myers would become a director and made films such as ''TheLastStarfighter'' and ''ComicStrip/{{Dennis the Menace|US}}''.
* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Even though Michael Myers came first, in the later sequels, he ends up seeming like a rip-off of [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]]. Also since all the cliches ''Halloween'' created (or in some cases popularized) have now become cliches they are no longer frightnening.

* SpecialEffectFailure: When Michael smashes one of Marion's car windows in the original, he obviously has a wrench taped to his hand.
** He's just CrazyPrepared. Would YOU use your bare hands to smash glass?
** Michael's CG mask, in the scene where he confronts Charlie in ''H20''.
* {{Squick}}: The implication in ''The Curse of Michael Myers'' that Baby Stephen is the result of Michael raping Jamie, his young niece.

* TearJerker: Annie's death in New ''II'', especially Sheriff Brackett's reaction to it.
** YMMV, but [[spoiler: Laurie's]] DyingDream from the director's cut of the same movie.
*** Also possibly NightmareFuel, because of Laurie's PsychoSmirk.
* ToughActToFollow: Subverted with the original for John Carpenter. Most of his films released afterward (''Film/TheThing'', ''EscapeFromNewYork'' and ''BigTroubleInLittleChina'' among them) were not critical or commercial successes but have had second life on home video and cable going on to become classics and VindicatedByHistory.
* VillainDecay: Some felt the revelation that [[spoiler:Laurie was Michael's sister]] took away the menacing mystery that made Michael such an effective villain.
** Your mileage may vary, because it's not unheard of for slashers to have somewhat of a redeeming quality in their love for their family members, and Michael's obsession with killing his family members may make him out to be one of the more brutal or irredeemable slashers. Besides, it gives a reason for him targeting Laurie, but not a reason for being a CompleteMonster.

*** Laurie, especially in Zombie's ''2''. Not only does she lose her friends but, going by canon, [[spoiler:she loses her daughter to Michael (''Thorn'' canon), loses her family (H20/HR canon), and either ends up becoming that she is a Myers or becoming crazy and getting shot dead by the police (Zombieverse)]].

** During the commentary for ''Film/FreddyVsJason'', the director mentioned that the studios were in talks to include Micheal in a possible sequal(said talks didn't go anywhere). The director suggested the plot would involved [[Film/ANightmareOnElmStreet Freddy Kruger]] and [[Film/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards teaming up to beat Michael, implicitly saying that Michael is worse than either of them.]] To put that in perspective, Freddy is a ''child rapist'' and Jason has the highest body count of any slasher movie villain.

* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Even though Michael Myers came first, in the later sequels, he ends up seeming like a rip-off of [[Film/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]]. Also since all the cliches ''Halloween'' created (or in some cases popularized) have now become cliches they are no longer frightnening.

* SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced: The casting of MalcolmMcDowell as Doctor Loomis in the remake was well-received for the most part.
** Danielle Harris' casting as Annie also earned some praise.

* AndTheFandomRejoiced: The casting of MalcolmMcDowell as Doctor Loomis in the remake was well-received for the most part.

* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J82gFhtMdmE The main theme]] is considered one of the most bone-chilling pieces ever put on screen.

* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Let's start with [[http://www.artofthetitle.com/2008/10/31/halloween/ the creepy floating jack-o-lantern]] in the original's opening credits and go from there...

* NarmCharm: The original film has equal measures of IdiotPlot, PurpleProse, and "WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome" RuleOfScary overshadows them so much that they're all excused.

* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Covered by WebOriginal/TheAngryVideoGameNerd in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0G_8gHDsL8 his review of the video game version]].

* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: Covered by TheAngryVideoGameNerd in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0G_8gHDsL8 his review of the video game version]].

* AndTheFandomRejoiced: The casting of MalcolmMcDowell as Doctor Loomis in the remake was well-recieved for the most part.

* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J82gFhtMdmE The main theme]] is considered one of the most bone-chilling pieces ever put on screen.

** During the commentary for ''FreddyVsJason'', the director mentioned that the studios were in talks to include Micheal in a possible sequal(said talks didn't go anywhere). The director suggested the plot would involved [[NightmareOnElmStreet Freddy Kruger]] and [[Film/FridayThe13th Jason Voorhees]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards teaming up to beat Michael, implicitly saying that Michael is worse than either of them.]] To put that in perspective, Freddy is a ''child rapist'' and Jason has the highest body count of any slasher movie villain.

* DyingMomentOfAwesome: "It's time, Michael..."

* FanonDiscontinuity: Many fans prefer to regard Halloween: H20 as the ending to the original series, and because of Halloween: Resurrection's faliure, they try to ignore it.

* RetroactiveRecognition: The original Michael Myers would become a director and made films such as ''TheLastStarfighter'' and ''DennisTheMenace''.

* SpecialEffectsFailure: When Michael smashes one of Marion's car windows in the original, he obviously has a wrench taped to his hand.

** In the Zombie remake, we have Michael bursting through a car windshield followed by Dr. Loomis shouting "MICHAEL! JESUS CHRIST!" as if he were reacting to someone spilling coffee on the floor. The line even became a meme in the Dread Central podcast and forums, usually used whenever Malcom [=McDowell=] is mentioned.

** The whole "Michael replaces an ambulance worker for himself" move at the start of ''Resurrection''. Even hardcore fans of the series didn't buy that one.

* EarWorm: [[strike:London Bridge]] The Silver Shamrock song.

* AndTheFandomRejoiced: The casting of MalcolmMcDowell as Doctor Loomis was well-recieved for the most part.

*** Laurie, especially in Zombie's ''2''.

*** Unlike [[ForTheEvulz Freddy]] or [[CrazySurvivalist Jason]], Michael doesn't have ''any'' reason or motivation for his killing, or a life outside his murders. Killing people is all he does.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Take a wild guess.
** Also, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6DjIm82J2U The Shape Stalks Again]].

* NarmCharm: The original film has equal measures of IdiotPlot, PurpleProse, and WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome. RuleOfScary overshadows them so much that they're all excused.

* TearJerker - Annie's death in New ''II'', especially Sheriff Brackett's reaction to it.

** Your milage may vary, because it's not unheard of for slashers to have somewhat of a redeeming quality in their love for their family members, and Michael's obsession with killing his family members may make him out to be one of the more brutal or irredeemable slashers. Besides, it gives a reason for him targeting Laurie, but not a reason for being a CompleteMonster.

*** Laurie, especially in Zombie's ''2''.
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Michael in the Zombie directed films.

* {{Sequelitis}}: Most of the sequels are generally regarded as low quality.