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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: In "How the West Was One, Part 1" Mike starting a protest to save his teacher's job.
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** Jokes about death and aging are a bit bittersweet when they are directed at Jason, since Alan Thicke passed away in 2016 at the age of 69.
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* TearJerker:
** The episode where Carol's boyfriend (pre-''Friends'' Matthew Perry) dies. (Even worse, Cameron had a hand in this too, demanding that Perry be fired as he believed him to be "an agent of Satan")
** [[http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/actor-alan-thicke-dies-69-n695681 The real-life death of Alan Thicke]] from an aortic aneurysm, and the fact, not unlike Creator/JohnRitter (who died from a similar cause) that he wasn't all that old by most standards when he died.
** The suicide of Andrew Koenig, who played Boner.
** The episode where Carol's boyfriend (pre-''Friends'' Matthew Perry) dies. (Even worse, Cameron had a hand in this too, demanding that Perry be fired as he believed him to be "an agent of Satan")
** [[http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/actor-alan-thicke-dies-69-n695681 The real-life death of Alan Thicke]] from an aortic aneurysm, and the fact, not unlike Creator/JohnRitter (who died from a similar cause) that he wasn't all that old by most standards when he died.
** The suicide of Andrew Koenig, who played Boner.
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* TearJerker:
**TearJerker: The episode where Carol's boyfriend (pre-''Friends'' Matthew Perry) dies. (Even worse, Cameron had a hand in this too, demanding that Perry be fired as he believed him to be "an agent of Satan")
** [[http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/actor-alan-thicke-dies-69-n695681 The real-life death of Alan Thicke]] from an aortic aneurysm, and the fact, not unlike Creator/JohnRitter (who died from a similar cause) that he wasn't all that old by most standards when he died.
** The suicide of Andrew Koenig, who played Boner.Satan")
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** [[http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/actor-alan-thicke-dies-69-n695681 The real-life death of Alan Thicke]] from an aortic aneurysm, and the fact, not unlike Creator/JohnRitter (who died from a similar cause) that he wasn't all that old by most standards when he died.
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** The episode where Carol's boyfriend (pre-''Friends'' Matthew Perry) dies. (Even worse, Cameron had a hand in this too, demanding that Perry be fired as he believed him to be "an agent of Satan")
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Matthew Perry, years before ''Series/{{Friends}}'', played Carol's [[spoiler:doomed]] boyfriend, Sandy. Also, as mentioned above, Leonardo [=DiCaprio=] as temporary family member Luke. Brad Pitt, Jennie Garth and Hilary Swank also had small one-off roles.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Matthew Perry, Creator/MatthewPerry, years before ''Series/{{Friends}}'', played Carol's [[spoiler:doomed]] boyfriend, Sandy. Also, as mentioned above, Leonardo [=DiCaprio=] Creator/LeonardoDiCaprio as temporary family member Luke. Brad Pitt, Jennie Garth Creator/BradPitt, Creator/JennieGarth and Hilary Swank Creator/HilarySwank also had small one-off roles.
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** The suicide of Andrew Koenig, who played Boner.
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* {{Tearjerker}}: [[http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/actor-alan-thicke-dies-69-n695681 The death of Alan Thicke]] (Jason) on December 12, 2016.
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* {{Tearjerker}}: TearJerker:
** The episode where Carol's boyfriend (pre-''Friends'' Matthew Perry) dies.
** [[http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/actor-alan-thicke-dies-69-n695681 The real-life death of Alan Thicke]](Jason) on December 12, 2016.from an aortic aneurysm, and the fact, not unlike Creator/JohnRitter (who died from a similar cause) that he wasn't all that old by most standards when he died.
** The episode where Carol's boyfriend (pre-''Friends'' Matthew Perry) dies.
** [[http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/actor-alan-thicke-dies-69-n695681 The real-life death of Alan Thicke]]
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*** And pretty much ''any'' scene with Mike being a fun, normal member of the family when in fact Kirk Cameron's newfound fundamentalist tendencies made him the kind of guy who'd do things like demanding that the actress playing his character's girlfriend be fired because she was once in {{Playboy}}, or denouncing the producers as "pornographers" for having pretty much your standard family sitcom level of occasional suggestive humor. ''Far'' from [[ThemeSong sharing the laughter and love]] with anyone by this point, he pretty much singlehandedly turned it into a TroubledProduction, and it's probably not a coincidence that the show was not around for very long after. Cameron's scenes take on a very different tone upon rewatch because of this.
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*** And pretty much ''any'' scene with Mike being a fun, normal member of the family when in fact Kirk Cameron's newfound fundamentalist tendencies made him the kind of guy who'd do things like demanding that the actress playing his character's girlfriend be fired because she was once in {{Playboy}}, Magazine/{{Playboy}}, or denouncing the producers as "pornographers" for having pretty much your standard family sitcom level of occasional suggestive humor. ''Far'' from [[ThemeSong sharing the laughter and love]] with anyone by this point, he pretty much singlehandedly turned it into a TroubledProduction, and it's probably not a coincidence that the show was not around for very long after. Cameron's scenes take on a very different tone upon rewatch because of this.
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* RealLifeRelative: RobinThicke, Alan Thicke's son, appeared in three episodes. He was named "Ralph" in "Ben and Mike's Excellent Adventure."
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Bruce Willis was considered for Alan Thicke's role.
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny:
** "HE'S A WEINIE!"
** In "How the West Was One" (2-parter), Ben watches the news of a school protest and sees his siblings and dad being taken away by the police, and Maggie, who's reporting the event, [[MamaBear yells at the police to not hurt her kids]].
--->'''Maggie:''' WATCH THEIR HEADS YOU NAZIS!! [[MoodSwinger Back to you, Jerry.]]\\\
'''Ben:''' Whoa, my family's been busted!
*** "[[SarcasmMode OH NO WHAT HAVE I DONE??]]" (Mike and Jason's reaction to Carol's perfect attendance being ruined.)
*** The principal's secretary finding the chant "Heck no, he won't go!" catchy. Even Jason think so.
*** "[[ThatCameOutWrong We're just a couple of guys, cuddling on the front of a parked car.]]"
** "HE'S A WEINIE!"
** In "How the West Was One" (2-parter), Ben watches the news of a school protest and sees his siblings and dad being taken away by the police, and Maggie, who's reporting the event, [[MamaBear yells at the police to not hurt her kids]].
--->'''Maggie:''' WATCH THEIR HEADS YOU NAZIS!! [[MoodSwinger Back to you, Jerry.]]\\\
'''Ben:''' Whoa, my family's been busted!
*** "[[SarcasmMode OH NO WHAT HAVE I DONE??]]" (Mike and Jason's reaction to Carol's perfect attendance being ruined.)
*** The principal's secretary finding the chant "Heck no, he won't go!" catchy. Even Jason think so.
*** "[[ThatCameOutWrong We're just a couple of guys, cuddling on the front of a parked car.]]"
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* {{Tearjerker}}: [[ http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/actor-alan-thicke-dies-69-n695681 The death of Alan Thicke]] (Jason) on December 12, 2016.
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* {{Tearjerker}}: [[ http://www.[[http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/actor-alan-thicke-dies-69-n695681 The death of Alan Thicke]] (Jason) on December 12, 2016.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Matthew Perry, years before ''Series/{{Friends}}'', played Carol's [[spoiler:doomed]] boyfriend, Sandy. Also, as mentioned above, Leonardo [=DiCaprio=] as temporary family member Luke. Brad Pitt and Hilary Swank also had small one-off roles.
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* RealLifeRelative: RobinThicke, Alan Thicke's son, appeared in three episodes. He was named "Ralph" in "Ben and Mike's Excellent Adventure."
* RetroactiveRecognition: Matthew Perry, years before ''Series/{{Friends}}'', played Carol's [[spoiler:doomed]] boyfriend, Sandy. Also, as mentioned above, Leonardo [=DiCaprio=] as temporary family member Luke. BradPitt Pitt, Jennie Garth and Hilary Swank also had small one-off roles.
* RetroactiveRecognition: Matthew Perry, years before ''Series/{{Friends}}'', played Carol's [[spoiler:doomed]] boyfriend, Sandy. Also, as mentioned above, Leonardo [=DiCaprio=] as temporary family member Luke. Brad
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* {{Tearjerker}}: [[ http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/actor-alan-thicke-dies-69-n695681 The death of Alan Thicke]] (Jason) on December 12, 2016.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Matthew Perry, years before ''{{Friends}}'', played Carol's [[spoiler:doomed]] boyfriend, Sandy. Also, as mentioned above, Leonardo [=DiCaprio=] as temporary family member Luke. Brad Pitt and Hilary Swank also had small one-off roles.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Matthew Perry, years before ''{{Friends}}'', ''Series/{{Friends}}'', played Carol's [[spoiler:doomed]] boyfriend, Sandy. Also, as mentioned above, Leonardo [=DiCaprio=] as temporary family member Luke. Brad Pitt and Hilary Swank also had small one-off roles.
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*** "[[SarcasmMode OH KNOW WHAT HAVE I DONE??]]" (Mike and Jason's reaction to Carol's perfect attendance being ruined.)
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*** "[[SarcasmMode OH KNOW NO WHAT HAVE I DONE??]]" (Mike and Jason's reaction to Carol's perfect attendance being ruined.)
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'''Ben:''' My family is Whoa, my family's been busted!
*** "[[SarcasmMode OH KNOW WHAT HAVEI/WE DONE??]]"I DONE??]]" (Mike and Jason's reaction to Carol's perfect attendance being ruined.)
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** "My In "How the West Was One" (2-parter), Ben watches the news of a school protest and sees his siblings and dad being taken away by the police, and Maggie, who's reporting the event, [[MamaBear yells at the police to not hurt her kids]].
--->'''Maggie:''' WATCH THEIR HEADS YOU NAZIS!! [[MoodSwinger Back to you, Jerry.]]\\\
'''Ben:''' My family isbusted!"busted!
*** "[[SarcasmMode OH KNOW WHAT HAVE I/WE DONE??]]"
*** The principal's secretary finding the chant "Heck no, he won't go!" catchy. Even Jason think so.
*** "[[ThatCameOutWrong We're just a couple of guys, cuddling on the front of a parked car.]]"
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: In "How the West Was One, Part 1" Mike starting a protest to save his teacher's job.
--->'''Maggie:''' WATCH THEIR HEADS YOU NAZIS!! [[MoodSwinger Back to you, Jerry.]]\\\
'''Ben:''' My family is
*** "[[SarcasmMode OH KNOW WHAT HAVE I/WE DONE??]]"
*** The principal's secretary finding the chant "Heck no, he won't go!" catchy. Even Jason think so.
*** "[[ThatCameOutWrong We're just a couple of guys, cuddling on the front of a parked car.]]"
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: In "How the West Was One, Part 1" Mike starting a protest to save his teacher's job.
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*** And pretty much ''any'' scene with Mike being a fun, normal member of the family when in fact the actor's newfound fundie tendencies made him the kind of guy who'd do things like demanding that the actress playing his character's girlfriend be fired because she was once in {{Playboy}}, or denouncing the producers as "pornographers" for having pretty much your standard family sitcom level of occasional suggestive humor. ''Far'' from [[ThemeSong sharing the laughter and love]] with anyone by this point, he pretty much turned it into a TroubledProduction singlehandedly and it's probably not a coincidence that the show was not around for very long after. His scenes take on a very different tone upon rewatch because of this.
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*** And pretty much ''any'' scene with Mike being a fun, normal member of the family when in fact the actor's Kirk Cameron's newfound fundie fundamentalist tendencies made him the kind of guy who'd do things like demanding that the actress playing his character's girlfriend be fired because she was once in {{Playboy}}, or denouncing the producers as "pornographers" for having pretty much your standard family sitcom level of occasional suggestive humor. ''Far'' from [[ThemeSong sharing the laughter and love]] with anyone by this point, he pretty much singlehandedly turned it into a TroubledProduction singlehandedly TroubledProduction, and it's probably not a coincidence that the show was not around for very long after. His Cameron's scenes take on a very different tone upon rewatch because of this.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen : Bruce Willis was considered for Alan Thicke's role.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen : WhatCouldHaveBeen: Bruce Willis was considered for Alan Thicke's role.
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*** And pretty much ''any'' scene with Mike being a fun, normal member of the family when in fact the actor's newfound fundie tendencies made him the kind of guy who'd do things like demanding that the actress playing his character's girlfriend be fired because she was once in {{Playboy}}, or denouncing the producers as "pornographers" for having pretty much your standard family sitcom level of occasional suggestive humor. ''Far'' from being part of the "family," he pretty much turned it into a TroubledProduction singlehandedly and it's probably not a coincidence that the show was not around for very long after. His scenes take on a very different tone upon rewatch because of this.
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*** And pretty much ''any'' scene with Mike being a fun, normal member of the family when in fact the actor's newfound fundie tendencies made him the kind of guy who'd do things like demanding that the actress playing his character's girlfriend be fired because she was once in {{Playboy}}, or denouncing the producers as "pornographers" for having pretty much your standard family sitcom level of occasional suggestive humor. ''Far'' from being part of [[ThemeSong sharing the "family," laughter and love]] with anyone by this point, he pretty much turned it into a TroubledProduction singlehandedly and it's probably not a coincidence that the show was not around for very long after. His scenes take on a very different tone upon rewatch because of this.
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***And pretty much ''any'' scene with Mike being a fun, normal member of the family when in fact the actor's newfound fundie tendencies made him the kind of guy who'd do things like demanding that the actress playing his character's girlfriend be fired because she was once in {{Playboy}}, or denouncing the producers as "pornographers" for having pretty much your standard family sitcom level of occasional suggestive humor. ''Far'' from being part of the "family," he pretty much turned it into a TroubledProduction singlehandedly and it's probably not a coincidence that the show was not around for very long after. His scenes take on a very different tone upon rewatch because of this.
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: In one episode Ben learns that the morality of celebrities should not be a factor in whether or not we enjoy the art they produce. It wasn't why we became their fans in the first place.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Matthew Perry, years before ''{{Friends}}'', played Carol's [[spoiler:doomed]] boyfriend, Sandy. Also, as mentioned above, Leonardo [=DiCaprio=] as temporary family member Luke.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Matthew Perry, years before ''{{Friends}}'', played Carol's [[spoiler:doomed]] boyfriend, Sandy. Also, as mentioned above, Leonardo [=DiCaprio=] as temporary family member Luke. Brad Pitt and Hilary Swank also had small one-off roles.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen : Bruce Willis was considered for Alan Thicke's role.
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** A few early-season plots with Mike (him and Ben illegally betting on racehorses, throwing unsupervised parties) don't at all jibe with the adult, born-again Christian Kirk Cameron--or the Mike of the final season that was influenced by Cameron's newfound faith.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Coach Lubbock, who eventually got a spin-off.
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** Almost any appearance of Boner, given the actor's tragic death.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Any instance of Carol being teased about her weight. HollywoodPudgy actress Tracey Gold would go on to have a well-known (and near-fatal) battle with anorexia.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Any instance of Carol being teased about her weight. HollywoodPudgy actress Tracey Gold Gold, who played her, would go on to have a well-known (and near-fatal) battle with anorexia.
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: Any instance of Carol being teased about her weight. HollywoodPudgy actress Tracey Gold would go on to have a well-known (and near-fatal) battle with anorexia.