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** The level "Relics of Kounat" gives you quests to defeat both bosses. The problem is unlike Battle for Bermesiah's Mini bosses and Xenia Border's Bosses which have similar quests, the boss you fight is random and there's no way to accurately guess which one you're going to get, meaning you can be on it much longer than you need to because you keep being matched against the wrong guy. Not helped by the rather strict time limit if you're not overpowered for the level.
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* ScrappyMechanic: Quests that require you to use specific skills. AP and Hybrid characters will always be able to just dedicate a skill slot for it for the level at worst, but MP character quests always require you to use your first class weapon. If it's not a good class compared to what you have unlocked, you're not used to their first class, or you just plain don't like playing it, you're going to have a bad time. Later quests also require very specific skills unlocked, potentially wasting your precious SP.
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** Decanee can go significantly farther in Dungeons alone than the rest of the cast due to her absurd damage output and all around survivability.
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** Ronan came before Lass and Ryan due to people whining about having to play as a girl despite the fact that Lass and Ryan are ''also guys''.
* TearJerker: Crosses into SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments but mostly TearJerker. When the game's servers being turned off for good on April 2015, the staff of KOG and the top players said their thanks and farewells in a video called: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHNBL75R0nA A Farewell From Grand Chase]]. Pretty much all of the players state that they had great memories playing the game and are sad to see it go.
* TearJerker: Crosses into SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments but mostly TearJerker. When the game's servers being turned off for good on April 2015, the staff of KOG and the top players said their thanks and farewells in a video called: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHNBL75R0nA A Farewell From Grand Chase]]. Pretty much all of the players state that they had great memories playing the game and are sad to see it go.
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** Ronan came before Lass and Ryan due to people whining about having to play as a girl despite the fact that Lass and Ryan are ''also guys''.
guys''. This was likely because the levels required to unlock Lass were not available when Ronan was introduced, though Ryan's reason is a little more confusing.
* TearJerker: Crosses into SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments but mostly TearJerker. When the game's servers being turned off for good on April 2015, the staff of KOG and the top players said their thanks and farewells in a video called: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHNBL75R0nA A Farewell From Grand Chase]]. Pretty much all of the players state that they had great memories playing the game and are sad to see it go. Somewhat more heartwarming now that the servers are officially up again.
* TearJerker: Crosses into SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments but mostly TearJerker. When the game's servers being turned off for good on April 2015, the staff of KOG and the top players said their thanks and farewells in a video called: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHNBL75R0nA A Farewell From Grand Chase]]. Pretty much all of the players state that they had great memories playing the game and are sad to see it go. Somewhat more heartwarming now that the servers are officially up again.
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* UnexpectedCharacter: A crossover character with ''VideoGame/GrandChaseDimensionalChaser'' was expected if a new character since reopening was going to happen at all, but who expected major antagonist [[VillainProtagonist Decanee]]?
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*** Post 2nd job, her new "dark" level 3 skill, Screaming Gust, is '' '''[[UpToEleven even more so.]]''' '' Not only it deals ''ludicrous'' amounts of damage, almost on par with her 4th skill, it even receives a buff in the 3rd job, allowing Rin to become invincible and cause damage after the skill, in a manner similar to Sieghart's [[ImplacableMan Mocking Blade]]!
*** Her 4th skill, Ultrasonic Hymn, is essentially Ley's Secret Passage [[UpToEleven Up to Eleven]]! And unlike the other MP characters, Lin's 4th skill is the same, no matter the job or the path you follow, in a manner similar to the AP characters.
*** Her 4th skill, Ultrasonic Hymn, is essentially Ley's Secret Passage [[UpToEleven Up to Eleven]]! And unlike the other MP characters, Lin's 4th skill is the same, no matter the job or the path you follow, in a manner similar to the AP characters.
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*** Post 2nd job, her new "dark" level 3 skill, Screaming Gust, is '' '''[[UpToEleven even '''even more so.]]''' ''' '' Not only it deals ''ludicrous'' amounts of damage, almost on par with her 4th skill, it even receives a buff in the 3rd job, allowing Rin to become invincible and cause damage after the skill, in a manner similar to Sieghart's [[ImplacableMan Mocking Blade]]!
*** Her 4th skill, Ultrasonic Hymn, is essentially Ley's Secret Passage[[UpToEleven Up up to Eleven]]! eleven! And unlike the other MP characters, Lin's 4th skill is the same, no matter the job or the path you follow, in a manner similar to the AP characters.
*** Her 4th skill, Ultrasonic Hymn, is essentially Ley's Secret Passage
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* FanNickname: "Amyzilla" for one of Amy Plie's special moves, where [[MakeMyMonsterGrow she grows in size,]] stomps the ground and breathes fire like a miniature {{Kaiju}}.
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** In Season 2, you have no more single-player quests by level 46; Season 3 has it at level 61. This means you either grind in dungeons or in PVP.
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** In Season 2, you Various patches that drastically change the gameplay have no more single-player quests by level 46; Season 3 has it at level 61. This means you either grind divided the players in dungeons or in PVP.opposing camps whenever they came out.
** Before it was patched, due to a GoodBadBug, players often cheesed the first two Hero dungeons by stripping all their gear except for their secondary weapon. Any newcomers are immediately told to go "naked" to prevent their stats from buffing the enemies. Even the room names would sometimes go by the "naked" moniker. Practically no one asked for it to be fixed as clearing them is needed to complete the 3rd and 4th job missions.
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** The Heroic Dungeon bugs, too. Specifically, when they don't account for your secondary weapon when calculating its difficulty. ''The allows players to OneHitKill every enemy in the dungeon''. Note that Tower of Disappearance doesn't have this bug. This was patched in the Eternal update.
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** The Heroic Hero Dungeon bugs, too. Specifically, when they don't ''don't'' account for your secondary weapon when calculating its difficulty. ''The allows players to OneHitKill every enemy in the as you are smuggling a level 30+ weapon into a level 10 or so dungeon''. Note that Tower of Disappearance doesn't have this bug. This was patched in the Eternal update.
* ItsShortSoItSucks: In Season 2, you have no more single-player quests by level 46; Season 3 has it at level 61. This means you have to either grind in dungeons or in PVP to level up until the next quest patch.
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** Changing from the shared inventory system, a staple since '''day one''', to an individual-based inventory with a shared warehouse system has been met with near total disdain, due to how it just makes item handling needlessly complicated among the 20 characters. Many veterans ''quit'' the game over this.
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** Changing from the shared inventory system, a staple since '''day one''', to an individual-based inventory with a shared warehouse system has been met with near total disdain, due to how it just makes item handling needlessly complicated among the 20 characters. Many veterans ''quit'' the game and refuse to play the 2021 re-release over this.this!
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* BreatherLevel: The Wyrm's Maw / Ignis Mountains. In between the annoyance that is Ashtaroth and the evil that is the Altar of (im)Balance, Ignis looks positively easy in comparison.
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* AbridgedArenaArray: PVP is dominated by matches set in Gorge of Oath due to the various crevices littered throughout, making it great for knocking opponents into them for a quick win. In fact, wins that came from ''actually'' defeating your opponent with attacks are very rare in this stage.
* BreatherLevel: The Wyrm'sMaw / Ignis Maw/Ignis Mountains. In between the annoyance that is Ashtaroth and the evil that is the Altar of (im)Balance, Ignis looks positively easy in comparison.
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: Lire players have made the Gorge of Oath their official home in PVP, along with anyone else needing wins.
* DemonicSpiders: '''EVERY MONSTER''' in the Altar of Balance (before Season 3).
** The {{mook}}s at the Temple of Cuatal / Origins / Light are no joke either: arrow deflection, high-damage bombs... and a priest can heal and resurrect them.
* DemonicSpiders: '''EVERY MONSTER''' in the Altar of Balance (before Season 3).
** The {{mook}}s at the Temple of Cuatal / Origins / Light are no joke either: arrow deflection, high-damage bombs... and a priest can heal and resurrect them.
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* ComplacentGamingSyndrome: ComplacentGamingSyndrome:
** Lire players have made the Gorge of Oath their official home in PVP, along with anyone else needing wins.
** When Mari's 4th job was released, it is so ridiculously busted that there was a surge in her players solely for that alone, to the extent that her three other jobs were left in the dirt.
*DemonicSpiders: DemonicSpiders:
** '''EVERY MONSTER''' in the Altar of Balance (before Season 3).
** The {{mook}}s at the Temple ofCuatal / Origins / Light Cuatal/Origins/Light are no joke either: arrow deflection, high-damage bombs... and a priest can heal and resurrect them.
** Lire players have made the Gorge of Oath their official home in PVP, along with anyone else needing wins.
** When Mari's 4th job was released, it is so ridiculously busted that there was a surge in her players solely for that alone, to the extent that her three other jobs were left in the dirt.
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** '''EVERY MONSTER''' in the Altar of Balance (before Season 3).
** The {{mook}}s at the Temple of
** The 4 MP/AP bar skills. They are so ridiculously powerful that KOG had eventually to lock them behind a level 70 requirement while reworking their unlocking quests. When they first came out, you can get their unlock missions as early as level ''10''.
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*** Metal Idol / Lasting Lyrics in team battles, to the point where in team games, the resident tank Elesis is frequently shoved aside for Amy because of this buff. [[DemotedToExtra Isn't it sad, Elesis?]]
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*** Metal Idol / Lasting Idol/Lasting Lyrics in team battles, to the point where in team games, the resident tank Elesis is frequently shoved aside for Amy because of this buff. [[DemotedToExtra Isn't it sad, Elesis?]]
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* MemeticBadass: [[WarmUpBoss Treant]] is unbeatable! Subverted in the first stage on Phantasmic Sector. After spending minutes defeating 3 Poisonous Mushroom (on steroid), you will be ambushed by 2 level 85 Treant (for your information: the game level cap is 75).
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* MemeticBadass: [[WarmUpBoss Treant]] is unbeatable! Subverted in the first stage on Phantasmic Sector. After spending minutes defeating 3 Poisonous Mushroom (on steroid), you will be ambushed by 2 level 85 Treant (for Treant. For your information: information, the game game's level cap is 75).75 when it was first released.
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** Ronan came before Lass and Ryan due to people whining about having to play as a girl.
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* ThatOneBoss: The game starts off easy, but then smacks you with quite a few of these. Each fully completed continent has at least one, besides Bermesiah: Ellia has the Giant Stone Golem, Silver Land has King Guang / Ness and Victor, and Xenia has Yamini / Juriore and Thanatos. Archaemedia and Alcubra/Atum haven't got their hard bosses... yet.
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* ThatOneBoss: The game starts off easy, but then smacks you with quite a few of these. Each fully completed continent has at least one, besides Bermesiah: Ellia has the Giant Stone Golem, Silver Land has King Guang / Ness Guang/Ness and Victor, and Xenia has Yamini / Juriore Yamini/Juriore and Thanatos. Archaemedia and Alcubra/Atum haven't got their hard bosses... yet.
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* ThatOneLevel: The Altar of Balance in Season 2; the Castle of Domination in Season 3.
** The Castle of Domination puts the Altar of Balance to shame, and is practically NintendoHard on Champion Mode.
** The Castle of Domination puts the Altar of Balance to shame, and is practically NintendoHard on Champion Mode.
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* ThatOneLevel: ThatOneLevel:
** The Altar of Balance in Season 2; the Castle of Domination in Season 3.
** *** The Castle of Domination puts the Altar of Balance to shame, and is practically NintendoHard on Champion Mode.
** The Altar of Balance in Season 2; the Castle of Domination in Season 3.
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** The Temple of Cuatal / Origins qualifies if you go through it using a solo Lire. Nearly all of the enemies there (including Vanessa and Samsara / Zen) have Arrow Defense.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The supposed "Ottofix" by Ntreev.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: TheyChangedItNowItSucks:
** The supposed "Ottofix" byNtreev.Ntreev.
** The raising of the level requirement of the level 4 skills to 70 has pissed off quite a few players as they are now locked out of a powerful crutch that would have helped them reach higher levels. Lime and Asin players got it even worse as they have to reach level 85 to unlock the skills, which is the game's final level cap!!
** Changing from the shared inventory system, a staple since '''day one''', to an individual-based inventory with a shared warehouse system has been met with near total disdain, due to how it just makes item handling needlessly complicated among the 20 characters. Many veterans ''quit'' the game over this.
** The supposed "Ottofix" by
** The raising of the level requirement of the level 4 skills to 70 has pissed off quite a few players as they are now locked out of a powerful crutch that would have helped them reach higher levels. Lime and Asin players got it even worse as they have to reach level 85 to unlock the skills, which is the game's final level cap!!
** Changing from the shared inventory system, a staple since '''day one''', to an individual-based inventory with a shared warehouse system has been met with near total disdain, due to how it just makes item handling needlessly complicated among the 20 characters. Many veterans ''quit'' the game over this.
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** ''Grand Chase'' was a huge hit in Brazil and easily one of the most popular [=MMOs=] in the country alongside with ''VideoGame/RagnarokOnline'' and ''VideoGame/CounterStrike''. For some years, the Brazilian server was the biggest of the world in number of players. Dio and Mari were the popular choices of the Brazilians. In 2015, Many players lamented the shut down of the servers and the even the company which ran the Brazilian version (Level Up Games) tried to buy the rights of the game for keep it running, but [=KOG=] refused the deal.
** ''Grand Chase'' was also a huge hit in the Philippines to the extent that it became the first country outside Korea chosen to have its sequel localised for them while becoming the host of its Southeast Asia Server. When the news of the sequel first came out, pre-registrations for it exceeded '''''100 thousand''''', which was quite impressive considering that it has been over 3 years since the original closed in mid-2015 and most of its original players have moved on from it.
* [[{{GoddamnedBats}} Goddamned Harpies and Goddamned Gargoyles]]
** ''Grand Chase'' was also a huge hit in the Philippines to the extent that it became the first country outside Korea chosen to have its sequel localised for them while becoming the host of its Southeast Asia Server. When the news of the sequel first came out, pre-registrations for it exceeded '''''100 thousand''''', which was quite impressive considering that it has been over 3 years since the original closed in mid-2015 and most of its original players have moved on from it.
* [[{{GoddamnedBats}} Goddamned Harpies and Goddamned Gargoyles]]
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** ''Grand Chase'' was is a huge hit in Brazil and easily one of the most popular [=MMOs=] in the country alongside with ''VideoGame/RagnarokOnline'' and ''VideoGame/CounterStrike''. For some years, In the game's early heyday, the Brazilian server was the biggest of the world in number of players.players, which KOG took account of when they relaunched the game by forming ''ten'' South America servers to connect to. Dio and Mari were the popular choices of the Brazilians. In 2015, Many players lamented fact, on the the shut down of the original servers and the even the company which ran the Brazilian version (Level in 2015, Level Up Games) Games tried to buy the rights of the game for keep it running, but [=KOG=] refused the deal.
** ''Grand Chase'' was also a huge hit in the Philippines to the extent that it became the first country outside Korea chosen to have its sequellocalised localized for them while becoming the host of its Southeast Asia Server. When the news of the sequel first came out, pre-registrations for it exceeded '''''100 thousand''''', which was quite impressive considering that it has been over 3 years since the original closed in mid-2015 and most of its original players have moved on from it.
*[[{{GoddamnedBats}} GoddamnedBats: Goddamned Harpies and Goddamned Gargoyles]]Gargoyles, for being flying enemies and infuriating to attack.
** ''Grand Chase'' was also a huge hit in the Philippines to the extent that it became the first country outside Korea chosen to have its sequel
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** It's still worthwhile to advance your job, because the Skill Trees often have passive boosts that apply to these jobs, too. Also, it's not unreasonable to assume that the second jobs onward will have Skill Trees. And in Season 4, advancing to higher jobs gives you a fixed stat bonus.
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** It's still worthwhile to advance your job, because the Skill Trees often have passive boosts that apply to these jobs, too. Also, it's not unreasonable to assume that the second jobs onward will have Skill Trees. And in Season 4, advancing to higher jobs gives you a fixed stat bonus.
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* TheScrappy: Arme and Lire in [=PvP=] in the Brazilian server. Many Brazilian players (especially Lass/Ryan/Ronan users) complained about Arme and Lire being "too broken" for [=PvP=] (especially the former for having healing abilities) because of [[LongRangeFighter their ranged attacks]]. "NO LIRE/ARME" becomes a trademark in the name of the rooms of this server.
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* TheScrappy: Arme and Lire in [=PvP=] in the Brazilian server. Many Brazilian players (especially Lass/Ryan/Ronan users) complained about Arme and Lire being "too broken" for [=PvP=] (especially the former for having healing abilities) because of [[LongRangeFighter their ranged attacks]].attacks]], such as Arme's infamous Fire Ball move (super handy for even the most inexperienced Arme players, but a pain in the neck for non-users of Arme). "NO LIRE/ARME" becomes a trademark in the name of the rooms of this server.
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Darth Wiki doesn't go on YMMV. - https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=DarthWiki.MostAnnoyingSound
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** "The Holy Light will lead us!" If the Arme has latency issues it tends to result in the sound clip spamming and overlapping.
** Amy's continuous "IT HURTS" whining whenever in Fatal status qualifies.
** Jin's heavy breathing whenever in Fatal status.
** "Your power is TRUUUEEEELLLLYYYY depressing." Worse if Veigas isn't on your team, cause that means you're losing mana too!
** "The Holy Light will lead us!" If the Arme has latency issues it tends to result in the sound clip spamming and overlapping.
** Amy's continuous "IT HURTS" whining whenever in Fatal status qualifies.
** Jin's heavy breathing whenever in Fatal status.
** "Your power is TRUUUEEEELLLLYYYY depressing." Worse if Veigas isn't on your team, cause that means you're losing mana too!
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*** Her first bar skill key moves are know to cause fits in PvP.
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* InternetBackdraft: The whole "Abyss Knight" before "Battle Mage" scheduling. It was so bad that people were getting banned from the forums for raging.
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*** Post 2nd job, her new "dark" level 3 skill, Screaming Gust, is '' '''[[UpToEleven even more so]]''' ''. Not only it deals ''ludicrous'' amounts of damage, almost on par with her 4th skill, it even recieves a buff in the 3rd job, allowing Rin to become invincible and cause damage after the skill, in a manner similar to Sieghart's [[ImplacableMan Mocking Blade]]!
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*** Post 2nd job, her new "dark" level 3 skill, Screaming Gust, is '' '''[[UpToEleven even more so]]''' ''. so.]]''' '' Not only it deals ''ludicrous'' amounts of damage, almost on par with her 4th skill, it even recieves receives a buff in the 3rd job, allowing Rin to become invincible and cause damage after the skill, in a manner similar to Sieghart's [[ImplacableMan Mocking Blade]]!
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** ''Grand Chase'' was also a huge hit in the Philippines to the extent that it became the first country outside Korea chosen to have it's sequel localised for them while becoming the host of it's Southeast Asia Server. When the news of the sequel first came out, pre-registrations for it exceeded '''''100 thousand''''', which was quite impressive considering that it has been over 3 years since the original closed in mid-2015 and most of it's original players have moved on from it.
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** ''Grand Chase'' was also a huge hit in the Philippines to the extent that it became the first country outside Korea chosen to have it's its sequel localised for them while becoming the host of it's its Southeast Asia Server. When the news of the sequel first came out, pre-registrations for it exceeded '''''100 thousand''''', which was quite impressive considering that it has been over 3 years since the original closed in mid-2015 and most of it's its original players have moved on from it.
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** The monsters in the Castle of Domination are already DemonicSpiders. [[{{HarderThanHard}} Champion Mode]] takes this to NintendoHard levels.
*** The Hera and Dark Priests can qualify as BossInMookClothing, even if you're not playing [[{{HarderThanHard}} Champion Mode]].
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** The monsters in the Castle of Domination are already DemonicSpiders. [[{{HarderThanHard}} [[HarderThanHard Champion Mode]] takes this to NintendoHard levels.
*** The Hera and Dark Priests can qualify as BossInMookClothing, even if you're not playing[[{{HarderThanHard}} [[HarderThanHard Champion Mode]].
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* TearJerker: Crosses into CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming but mostly TearJerker. When the game's servers being turned off for good on April 2015, the staff of KOG and the top players said their thanks and farewells in a video called: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHNBL75R0nA A Farewell From Grand Chase]]. Pretty much all of the players state that they had great memories playing the game and are sad to see it go.
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* TearJerker: Crosses into CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments but mostly TearJerker. When the game's servers being turned off for good on April 2015, the staff of KOG and the top players said their thanks and farewells in a video called: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHNBL75R0nA A Farewell From Grand Chase]]. Pretty much all of the players state that they had great memories playing the game and are sad to see it go.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Grand Chase was a huge hit in Brazil and easily one of the most popular [=MMOs=] in the country alongside with ''VideoGame/RagnarokOnline'' and ''VideoGame/CounterStrike''. For some years, the Brazilian server was the biggest of the world in number of players. Dio and Mari were the popular choices of the Brazilians. In 2015, Many players lamented the shut down of the servers and the even the company which ran the Brazilian version (Level Up Games) tried to buy the rights of the game for keep it running, but [=KOG=] refused the deal.
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** ''Grand Chase'' was a huge hit in Brazil and easily one of the most popular [=MMOs=] in the country alongside with ''VideoGame/RagnarokOnline'' and ''VideoGame/CounterStrike''. For some years, the Brazilian server was the biggest of the world in number of players. Dio and Mari were the popular choices of the Brazilians. In 2015, Many players lamented the shut down of the servers and the even the company which ran the Brazilian version (Level Up Games) tried to buy the rights of the game for keep it running, but [=KOG=] refused the deal.
** ''Grand Chase'' was also a huge hit in the Philippines to the extent that it became the first country outside Korea chosen to have it's sequel localised for them while becoming the host of it's Southeast Asia Server. When the news of the sequel first came out, pre-registrations for it exceeded '''''100 thousand''''', which was quite impressive considering that it has been over 3 years since the original closed in mid-2015 and most of it's original players have moved on from it.
** ''Grand Chase'' was a huge hit in Brazil and easily one of the most popular [=MMOs=] in the country alongside with ''VideoGame/RagnarokOnline'' and ''VideoGame/CounterStrike''. For some years, the Brazilian server was the biggest of the world in number of players. Dio and Mari were the popular choices of the Brazilians. In 2015, Many players lamented the shut down of the servers and the even the company which ran the Brazilian version (Level Up Games) tried to buy the rights of the game for keep it running, but [=KOG=] refused the deal.
** ''Grand Chase'' was also a huge hit in the Philippines to the extent that it became the first country outside Korea chosen to have it's sequel localised for them while becoming the host of it's Southeast Asia Server. When the news of the sequel first came out, pre-registrations for it exceeded '''''100 thousand''''', which was quite impressive considering that it has been over 3 years since the original closed in mid-2015 and most of it's original players have moved on from it.
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*** The Hera and Dark Priests can also qualify as BossInMookClothing, even if you're not playing [[{{HarderThanHard}} Champion Mode]].
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** Heroic Dungeons also qualify, unless you know the way around them.
** The Temple of Cuatal / Origins also qualifies if you go through it using a solo Lire. Nearly all of the enemies there (including Vanessa and Samsara / Zen) have Arrow Defense.
** The Temple of Cuatal / Origins also qualifies if you go through it using a solo Lire. Nearly all of the enemies there (including Vanessa and Samsara / Zen) have Arrow Defense.
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** Heroic Dungeons also qualify, unless you know the way around them.
** The Temple of Cuatal / Originsalso qualifies if you go through it using a solo Lire. Nearly all of the enemies there (including Vanessa and Samsara / Zen) have Arrow Defense.
** The Temple of Cuatal / Origins
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* BrokenBase: PVP steps into the realm of SeriousBusiness from time to time, to the point where [[StopHavingFunGuys the fan base can get really worked up over it]].
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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
** PVP steps into the realm of SeriousBusiness from time to time, to the point where [[StopHavingFunGuys the fan base can get really worked up overit]]. it]].
** PVP steps into the realm of SeriousBusiness from time to time, to the point where [[StopHavingFunGuys the fan base can get really worked up over
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* GameBreaker: The Skill Trees turn lower-tier jobs into [[{{PersonOfMassDestruction}} people of mass destruction]]. This make people even wonder why you should do the other jobs quests.
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* GameBreaker: GameBreaker:
** The Skill Trees turn lower-tier jobs into [[{{PersonOfMassDestruction}} people of mass destruction]]. This make people even wonder why you should do the other jobs quests.
** The Skill Trees turn lower-tier jobs into [[{{PersonOfMassDestruction}} people of mass destruction]]. This make people even wonder why you should do the other jobs quests.
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** Dio at the time of his release was a walking GameBreaker - while he did take a massive nerf, he is still absurdly versatile and powerful.
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Grand Chase was a huge hit in Brazil and easily one of the most popular [=MMOs=] in the country alongside with ''VideoGame/RagnarokOnline'' and ''VideoGame/CounterStrike''. For some years, the Brazilian server was the biggest of the world in number of players. Dio and Mari were the popular choices of the Brazilians. In 2015, Many players lamented the shut down of the servers and the even the company which ran the Brazilian version (Level Up Games) tried to buy the rights of the game for keep it running, but [=KOG=] refused the deal.
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Grand Chase was a huge hit in Brazil and easily one of the most popular [=MMOs=] in the country alongside with ''VideoGame/RagnarokOnline'' and ''VideoGame/CounterStrike''. For some years, the Brazilian server was the biggest of the world in number of players. Dio and Mari were the popular choices of the Brazilians. In 2015, Many players lamented the shut down of the servers and the even the company which ran the Brazilian version (Level Up Games) tried to buy the rights of the game for keep it running, but [=KOG=] refused the deal.
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** Dio at the time of his release was a walking GameBreaker - -- while he did take a massive nerf, he is still absurdly versatile and powerful.
powerful. Dio is the first character that the Korean Version dedicated a whole patch to nerfing, and it was BY FAR the biggest single nerf ever done in the 8-year history of the Korean version of the game. The size of the nerf was to the degree that it was possibly larger than every single other nerf the Korean Version has ever done put together. Using a certain tandem of moves in quick sequence will remove the "skill freeze" from the first move cast.
** Arme Glenstid is the only character who has a Cash Skill banned in tournaments (Athena's Sword).
** Though not to the degree that Gladiator Sieghart has, Ryan's Druid Skill Tree greatly improved his maneuverability '''and''' utility.
** Ronan Erudon:
*** Doubling as GoodBadBug, his (level 1) Blast Bomb skill refills his MP. Against large opponents, this allows him to cast this infinitely, in theory. Samsara is a particularly good example of this.
*** Aegis Knight's level 4 MP special -- he summons the Tempest Guardian, and gains a x2 damage multiplier while it is active.
** Amy Plie:
*** Sistina's Action Mode level 1 special move (Jack Knife) is taking to the air on a bicycle and crashing back down. This is perhaps one of the most damaging and spammable moves in PVP.
*** Metal Idol / Lasting Lyrics in team battles, to the point where in team games, the resident tank Elesis is frequently shoved aside for Amy because of this buff. [[DemotedToExtra Isn't it sad, Elesis?]]
** Ercnard Sieghart is rather good as a Gladiator, especially with his grabs. Then his Skill Tree came out, which gave him even '''more''' speed, even '''stronger''' skills, a passive buff to his defense (making him take about 30% less damage than any other character), the ability to heal, block hits like Aegis Knight (avoiding damage altogether), and very high priority on his aerial attacks. Add all those up and you'll see more than half of PVP stuffed with Gladiators. The Imperium Skill update also gave him a four-level MP special that decimates mooks with frightening ease.
** Although not to the degree Dio was, Ley received a rather substantial nerf shortly after her release. Her combo speed was lowered [Teleporting + a combo which was literally impassable for Melee characters at the speed it was fired] and a nerf to the cooldown of 'Secret Passage', an [=AoE=], instant-cast skill which had the capability to OHKO in PVP with extreme ease.
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Grand Chase was a huge hit in Brazil and easily one of the most popular [=MMOs=] in the country alongside with ''VideoGame/RagnarokOnline'' and ''VideoGame/CounterStrike''. For some years, the Brazilian server was the biggest of the world in number of players. Dio and Mari were the popular choices of the Brazilians. In 2015, Many players lamented the shut down of the servers and the even the company which ran the Brazilian version (Level Up Games) tried to buy the rights of the game for keep it running, but [=KOG=] refused thedeal. deal.
** Rin:
*** Post 2nd job, her new "dark" level 3 skill, Screaming Gust, is '' '''[[UpToEleven even more so]]''' ''. Not only it deals ''ludicrous'' amounts of damage, almost on par with her 4th skill, it even recieves a buff in the 3rd job, allowing Rin to become invincible and cause damage after the skill, in a manner similar to Sieghart's [[ImplacableMan Mocking Blade]]!
*** Her 4th skill, Ultrasonic Hymn, is essentially Ley's Secret Passage [[UpToEleven Up to Eleven]]! And unlike the other MP characters, Lin's 4th skill is the same, no matter the job or the path you follow, in a manner similar to the AP characters.
** Arme Glenstid is the only character who has a Cash Skill banned in tournaments (Athena's Sword).
** Though not to the degree that Gladiator Sieghart has, Ryan's Druid Skill Tree greatly improved his maneuverability '''and''' utility.
** Ronan Erudon:
*** Doubling as GoodBadBug, his (level 1) Blast Bomb skill refills his MP. Against large opponents, this allows him to cast this infinitely, in theory. Samsara is a particularly good example of this.
*** Aegis Knight's level 4 MP special -- he summons the Tempest Guardian, and gains a x2 damage multiplier while it is active.
** Amy Plie:
*** Sistina's Action Mode level 1 special move (Jack Knife) is taking to the air on a bicycle and crashing back down. This is perhaps one of the most damaging and spammable moves in PVP.
*** Metal Idol / Lasting Lyrics in team battles, to the point where in team games, the resident tank Elesis is frequently shoved aside for Amy because of this buff. [[DemotedToExtra Isn't it sad, Elesis?]]
** Ercnard Sieghart is rather good as a Gladiator, especially with his grabs. Then his Skill Tree came out, which gave him even '''more''' speed, even '''stronger''' skills, a passive buff to his defense (making him take about 30% less damage than any other character), the ability to heal, block hits like Aegis Knight (avoiding damage altogether), and very high priority on his aerial attacks. Add all those up and you'll see more than half of PVP stuffed with Gladiators. The Imperium Skill update also gave him a four-level MP special that decimates mooks with frightening ease.
** Although not to the degree Dio was, Ley received a rather substantial nerf shortly after her release. Her combo speed was lowered [Teleporting + a combo which was literally impassable for Melee characters at the speed it was fired] and a nerf to the cooldown of 'Secret Passage', an [=AoE=], instant-cast skill which had the capability to OHKO in PVP with extreme ease.
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Grand Chase was a huge hit in Brazil and easily one of the most popular [=MMOs=] in the country alongside with ''VideoGame/RagnarokOnline'' and ''VideoGame/CounterStrike''. For some years, the Brazilian server was the biggest of the world in number of players. Dio and Mari were the popular choices of the Brazilians. In 2015, Many players lamented the shut down of the servers and the even the company which ran the Brazilian version (Level Up Games) tried to buy the rights of the game for keep it running, but [=KOG=] refused the
** Rin:
*** Post 2nd job, her new "dark" level 3 skill, Screaming Gust, is '' '''[[UpToEleven even more so]]''' ''. Not only it deals ''ludicrous'' amounts of damage, almost on par with her 4th skill, it even recieves a buff in the 3rd job, allowing Rin to become invincible and cause damage after the skill, in a manner similar to Sieghart's [[ImplacableMan Mocking Blade]]!
*** Her 4th skill, Ultrasonic Hymn, is essentially Ley's Secret Passage [[UpToEleven Up to Eleven]]! And unlike the other MP characters, Lin's 4th skill is the same, no matter the job or the path you follow, in a manner similar to the AP characters.
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* InternetBackdraft: the whole "Abyss Knight" before "Battle Mage" scheduling.
** It was so bad that people were getting banned from the forums for raging.
* JustHereForGodzilla: [=PVP=] mostly.
** Amy's buffs to her Metal Idol dance is worth her entire Skill Tree - as usual.
* {{Macekre}}: In a ways, people do NOT like Ntreev for their [[RevenueEnhancingDevices obvious cash ploys]] and other "crimes" made into their version of the game such as Class {{Nerf}}s for the prospect of [=PVP=] having less complaints.
** It was so bad that people were getting banned from the forums for raging.
* JustHereForGodzilla: [=PVP=] mostly.
** Amy's buffs to her Metal Idol dance is worth her entire Skill Tree - as usual.
* {{Macekre}}: In a ways, people do NOT like Ntreev for their [[RevenueEnhancingDevices obvious cash ploys]] and other "crimes" made into their version of the game such as Class {{Nerf}}s for the prospect of [=PVP=] having less complaints.
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* InternetBackdraft: the The whole "Abyss Knight" before "Battle Mage" scheduling.
**scheduling. It was so bad that people were getting banned from the forums for raging.
*JustHereForGodzilla: JustHereForGodzilla:
** [=PVP=] mostly.
** Amy's buffs to her Metal Idol dance is worth her entire Skill Tree- -- as usual.
*{{Macekre}}: {{Macekre}}:
** In a ways, people do NOT like Ntreev for their [[RevenueEnhancingDevices obvious cash ploys]] and other "crimes" made into their version of the game such as Class {{Nerf}}s for the prospect of [=PVP=] having less complaints.
**
*
** [=PVP=] mostly.
** Amy's buffs to her Metal Idol dance is worth her entire Skill Tree
*
** In a ways, people do NOT like Ntreev for their [[RevenueEnhancingDevices obvious cash ploys]] and other "crimes" made into their version of the game such as Class {{Nerf}}s for the prospect of [=PVP=] having less complaints.
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* MemeticBadass: [[WarmUpBoss Treant]] is unbeatable!
** Subverted in the first stage on Phantasmic Sector. After spending minutes defeating 3 Poisonous Mushroom( on steroid), you will be ambushed by 2 level 85 Treant( for your information : the game level cap is 75)
* MostAnnoyingSound: "The Holy Light will lead us!"
** Subverted in the first stage on Phantasmic Sector. After spending minutes defeating 3 Poisonous Mushroom( on steroid), you will be ambushed by 2 level 85 Treant( for your information : the game level cap is 75)
* MostAnnoyingSound: "The Holy Light will lead us!"
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* MemeticBadass: [[WarmUpBoss Treant]] is unbeatable!
**unbeatable! Subverted in the first stage on Phantasmic Sector. After spending minutes defeating 3 Poisonous Mushroom( on Mushroom (on steroid), you will be ambushed by 2 level 85 Treant( for Treant (for your information : information: the game level cap is 75)
75).
*MostAnnoyingSound: MostAnnoyingSound:
** "The Holy Light will leadus!"us!" If the Arme has latency issues it tends to result in the sound clip spamming and overlapping.
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** "The Holy Light will lead
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* {{Narm}}: Most of Ronan's lines. '''"It's my victory!"''' is a particularly {{Narm}}-ful one. (He says it differently for his Magic Knight and Aegis Knight jobs, but both are equally as {{Narm}}-ful.)
** Some of Lire's lines can also qualify. "Oh, no... I won!"
* NarmCharm: The reason Ronan is particularly popular with the fanbase.
* PanderingToTheBase: [=PVP=] is overpromoted due to the fact that no one in the community really cares that much about dungeons.
** Some of Lire's lines can also qualify. "Oh, no... I won!"
* NarmCharm: The reason Ronan is particularly popular with the fanbase.
* PanderingToTheBase: [=PVP=] is overpromoted due to the fact that no one in the community really cares that much about dungeons.
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* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}}:
** Most of Ronan's lines. '''"It's my victory!"''' is a particularly {{Narm}}-ful one. (He says it differently for his Magic Knight and Aegis Knight jobs, but both are equally as {{Narm}}-ful.)
** Some of Lire's lines canalso qualify. qualify, such as "Oh, no... I won!"
won!".
* NarmCharm: The reason Ronan is particularly popular with thefanbase.
fanbase is his SoBadItsGood English VA.
*PanderingToTheBase: PanderingToTheBase:
** [=PVP=] is overpromoted due to the fact that no one in the community really cares that much about dungeons.
** Most of Ronan's lines. '''"It's my victory!"''' is a particularly {{Narm}}-ful one. (He says it differently for his Magic Knight and Aegis Knight jobs, but both are equally as {{Narm}}-ful.)
** Some of Lire's lines can
* NarmCharm: The reason Ronan is particularly popular with the
*
** [=PVP=] is overpromoted due to the fact that no one in the community really cares that much about dungeons.
* ThatOneAttack:
** Lire Eryuell:
*** Her first bar skill key moves are know to cause fits in PvP.
*** Her non-skill key special moves are also very dangerous, as getting hit by one point-blank means '''you will get grabbed or hit with another special move in short order'''.
*** Headshot Level 2 is a ranged version of Lass' [[{{HptoOne}} Fatal Attack]], which hits twice; for the same mana cost. And if at point blank, she can follow it up with an immediate grab for an instant kill if successful. This skill was so potent it was initially removed in NAGC.
** Everyone and Ryan Woodguard's dog who buys a cash skill key for Ryan will always, always, '''always''' get Poison Spore.
** Lire Eryuell:
*** Her first bar skill key moves are know to cause fits in PvP.
*** Her non-skill key special moves are also very dangerous, as getting hit by one point-blank means '''you will get grabbed or hit with another special move in short order'''.
*** Headshot Level 2 is a ranged version of Lass' [[{{HptoOne}} Fatal Attack]], which hits twice; for the same mana cost. And if at point blank, she can follow it up with an immediate grab for an instant kill if successful. This skill was so potent it was initially removed in NAGC.
** Everyone and Ryan Woodguard's dog who buys a cash skill key for Ryan will always, always, '''always''' get Poison Spore.
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** [[{{ThatOneBoss}} That One Miniboss]]: Vanessa and Ashtaroth are usually considered to be much harder than their end-of-level bosses Zen/Samsara and Bultaros/Mynos, respectively. To wit: Vanessa can corner-lock you with consecutive Spinning Phantom attacks when in Wolf form.
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** [[{{ThatOneBoss}} That One Miniboss]]: The minibosses Vanessa and Ashtaroth are usually considered to be much harder than their end-of-level bosses Zen/Samsara and Bultaros/Mynos, respectively. To wit: Vanessa can corner-lock you with consecutive Spinning Phantom attacks when in Wolf form.
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** See {{Macekre}} above.
