History YMMV / Fallout3

14th Sep '17 2:43:10 AM sinndogg
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** ''Fallout 3'' was produced by a separate company to the original games, and, unlike the earlier, pure RPG, titles, was an action RPG. A subset of veteran Fallout fans felt that the "sequel" wasn't a sequel in the sense of "being the same sort of game," as well as certain continuity errors and "dumbed-down" mechanical elements. Some supporters of the game countered by calling the opposition FanDumb, and claiming that their criticisms were a case of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.

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** ''Fallout 3'' was produced by a separate company to the original games, and, unlike the earlier, pure RPG, earlier pure-RPG titles, was an action RPG. A subset of veteran Fallout fans felt that the "sequel" wasn't a sequel in the sense of "being the same sort of game," as well as certain game", and called it out for a number of continuity errors and "dumbed-down" mechanical elements.elements (see the entry for OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight below). Some supporters of the game countered by calling the opposition FanDumb, and claiming that their criticisms were a case of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
14th Sep '17 2:38:59 AM sinndogg
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** Special nod goes to The Roach King. Literally in the middle of no where, he sits on a throne made of random junk, while wielding a mini-gun, surrounded by his "army" of Rad Roaches. Since he and by extension his roaches attack you on sight [[note]] Though since much stronger enemies spawn in that area, he may be dead when you find him. [[/note]], there is no way of figuring out ''anything'' about him.

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** Special nod goes to The Roach King. Literally in the middle of no where, he sits on a throne made of random junk, junk while wielding a mini-gun, surrounded by his "army" of Rad Roaches. Since he and by extension his roaches attack you on sight [[note]] Though since much stronger enemies spawn in that area, he may be dead when you find him. [[/note]], there is no way of figuring out ''anything'' about him.



** ''Fallout 3'' was produced by a separate company to the original games, and, unlike the earlier titles, was an action RPG. Fans of the Fallout franchise were split over the fact that the "sequel" wasn't a sequel in the sense of "being the same sort of game," as well as certain continuity errors and "dumbed down" mechanical elements. While supporters of the game countered with calling the opposition fandumb and claiming that their criticisms were a case of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
** Fans were divided for a long time over Fawkes' gender, due to the Vault 87 super mutants' lack of secondary sexual characteristics, and the fact that the cell the player finds him in was originally occupied by a female, according to an entry on a nearby terminal. WordOfGod eventually put the debate to rest, confirming him as male.
** Some players love the game's green ColorWash, considering it to be one of its most distinctive, memorable features, not to mention a fitting reference to the TechnicolorScience association between [[ILoveNuclearPower radioactivity]] and a SicklyGreenGlow. Others find it ugly, blame it for making the game's environments look repetitive, or even claim that looking at it for too long gives them headaches or nausea.

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** ''Fallout 3'' was produced by a separate company to the original games, and, unlike the earlier earlier, pure RPG, titles, was an action RPG. Fans A subset of the veteran Fallout franchise were split over the fact fans felt that the "sequel" wasn't a sequel in the sense of "being the same sort of game," as well as certain continuity errors and "dumbed down" "dumbed-down" mechanical elements. While Some supporters of the game countered with by calling the opposition fandumb FanDumb, and claiming that their criticisms were a case of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
** Fans were divided for a long time over Fawkes' gender, due to the Vault 87 super mutants' [[NoBiologicalSex lack of secondary sexual characteristics, characteristics]], and the fact that the cell the player finds him in was was, according to the computer terminal outside, originally occupied by a female, according to an entry on a nearby terminal.female test subject. WordOfGod eventually put the debate to rest, confirming him as male.
** Some players love are fond of the game's green ColorWash, considering it to be one of its most distinctive, memorable features, not to mention and a fitting reference to the TechnicolorScience association between idea that [[ILoveNuclearPower radioactivity]] nuclear power and a SicklyGreenGlow. radiation]] equals [[SicklyGreenGlow green]]. Others find it ugly, blame it for making contributing to the game's environments look repetitive, repetitive feel of the game world, or even claim that looking at it for too long gives them headaches or and nausea.
12th Sep '17 1:24:23 AM sinndogg
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** Some players love the game's green ColorWash, consider it to be one of its most distinctive, memorable features, and consider it a fitting reference to the TechnicolorScience association between [[ILoveNuclearPower radioactivity]] and a SicklyGreenGlow. Others find it ugly, blame it for making the game's environments look repetitive, or even claim that looking at it for too long gives them headaches or nausea.

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** Some players love the game's green ColorWash, consider considering it to be one of its most distinctive, memorable features, and consider it not to mention a fitting reference to the TechnicolorScience association between [[ILoveNuclearPower radioactivity]] and a SicklyGreenGlow. Others find it ugly, blame it for making the game's environments look repetitive, or even claim that looking at it for too long gives them headaches or nausea.
12th Sep '17 1:19:56 AM sinndogg
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* BrokenBase: A few examples:
** ''Fallout 3'' was produced by a separate company to the original games, and, unlike the earlier titles, was an action RPG. Fans of the Fallout franchise were split over the fact that the "sequel" wasn't a sequel in the sense of "being the same sort of game," as well as certain continuity errors and "dumbed down" mechanical elements. While supporters of the game countered with calling the opposition fandumb and claiming that their criticisms were a case of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
** Fans were divided for a long time over Fawkes' gender, due to the Vault 87 super mutants' lack of secondary sexual characteristics, and the fact that the cell the player finds him in was originally occupied by a female, according to an entry on a nearby terminal. WordOfGod eventually put the debate to rest, confirming him as male.
** Some players love the game's green ColorWash, consider it to be one of its most distinctive, memorable features, and consider it a fitting reference to the TechnicolorScience association between [[ILoveNuclearPower radioactivity]] and a SicklyGreenGlow. Others find it ugly, blame it for making the game's environments look repetitive, or even claim that looking at it for too long gives them headaches or nausea.
10th Sep '17 3:00:28 AM sinndogg
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* ContestedSequel: Points of debate include the shift in gameplay from turn-based to real-time (among numerous other changes), the quality of writing, both in the main quest and in secondary quests and locations, some [[RecycledScript recycling of plot elements]] from previous games, and the change of location resulting in almost nothing carrying over from the first two games aside from the Enclave, Brotherhood of Steel, Ghouls, a number of items, and (in an altered form) Super Mutants and Centaurs. Some of the things that were carried over, including the two major factions, were also criticised for being [[AssPull shoehorned]] into a setting that arguably didn't call for them them.

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* ContestedSequel: Points of debate include the shift in gameplay from turn-based to real-time (among numerous other changes), the quality and/or sparseness of the writing, both in the main quest and in secondary quests and locations, some [[RecycledScript recycling of key plot elements]] from previous games, and the change of location resulting in almost nothing carrying over from the first two games aside from the Enclave, Brotherhood of Steel, Ghouls, a number of items, and (in an altered form) Super Mutants and Centaurs. Some of the things that were carried over, including the two major factions, were also criticised for being [[AssPull shoehorned]] into a setting that arguably didn't call for them them.them, or for being used in ways that contradicted previous canon.
23rd Aug '17 5:47:17 PM Sullytofu
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The game was hugely influential for the seventh generation of consoles, for many reasons- it's incredibly large and detailed open world, it's adaption of traditional RPG mechanics into a first-person perspective with VATS and dialogue trees as well as it being the first introduction to the world of ''Fallout'' for many gamers that missed it on PC. Nowadays, while it's still beloved, it's sequels ''New Vegas'' and ''Fallout 4'' are more appreciated for being major improvements to the standard that ''3'' set. Quest design is improved in ''New Vegas'' as well as having a more dynamic story, and ''4'' is a massive improvement in the gameplay department with updated shooting and looting mechanics. This leaves ''3'' as the weakest of the three of the games, though it's still appreciated for it's own merits as being a fun game and for the popularization of WideOpenSandbox and it's subsequent evolution with games like Videogame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim, Videogame/FarCry3, and Franchise/AssassinsCreed during the latter half of the seventh generation of consoles.
21st Aug '17 1:24:49 PM mkmlp
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* TheWoobie:
** Gob and Harold.
** If you decide to be a terrible person, you can make Amata's life hell growing up. Teaching bullies to mock her weight, killing her dad, destroying her home, and causing [[spoiler:her to be captured by the Enclave and shot to death for not revealing where Vault 101 is.]]
** Bessie Lynn. While Michael Masters and Roy Phillips deserve to die for various reasons and revel in slaughtering the residents of Tenpenny Tower, Bessie is implied to not know what Roy's plan is, or at least may not approve of it, and her entire schtick is IJustWantToBeLoved, wanting to recapture the sense of self-respect and beauty she had as a human and following Roy because he makes her feel that way. If you choose to kill Roy and his followers and tell Bessie you're there to kill her, she barely fights back.
20th Aug '17 12:35:28 PM nombretomado
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* JustForFun/XMeetsY: The game has been described as ''[[VideoGame/TheElderscrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'' with guns. Depending on [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation who]] you talk to, ''[[TropesAreNotBad this is not necessarily a bad thing]]''.
14th Aug '17 2:27:39 AM infernape612
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** With ''Broken Steel'', Dogmeat, Fawkes, and RL-3 are subject to a [[GoodBadBugs glitch]] that turns them into [[NighInvulnerability bullet sponges]].[[note]]They gain HP every time the player levels up: Dogmeat and Fawkes have 30,000 HP when the player hits level 30 with RL-3 not far behind.[[/note]] Charon and Cross are fairly tough compared to other followers[[note]]Charon is good at Sneak while Cross is above average with ''all'' weapons.[[/note]]. Butch, Clover, and Jericho are fairly frail but remain usable as pack mules.

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** With ''Broken Steel'', Dogmeat, Fawkes, and RL-3 are subject to a [[GoodBadBugs glitch]] that turns them into [[NighInvulnerability bullet sponges]].[[note]]They gain HP every time the player levels up: Dogmeat and Fawkes have 30,000 HP when the player hits level 30 with RL-3 not far behind.[[/note]] Charon and Cross are fairly tough compared to other followers[[note]]Charon followers.[[note]]Charon is good at Sneak while Cross is above average with ''all'' weapons.[[/note]]. [[/note]] Butch, Clover, and Jericho are fairly frail but remain usable as pack mules.
25th Jul '17 6:28:04 PM nombretomado
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* JustForFun/XMeetsY: The game has been described as ''[[VideoGame/TheElderscrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'' with guns. Depending on [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation who]] you talk to, ''[[TropesAreNotBad this is not necessarily a bad thing]]''.
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