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* ContestedSequel:
** The ''Raging Blast'' games. Proponents will point to the addition of customization for the actual movelists and use of WhatIf characters, while opponents criticize them for having smaller rosters and more simplistic gameplay.
** ''Ultimate Tenkaichi.'' Some people consider it better than the previous ''Raging Blast'' games, others consider it to be one of the worst DBZ games ever made with its Rock-Paper-Scissors mechanic instead of combos and strategies. It doesn't help that the plot for Hero Mode, the main attraction of DBZ, feels like a bad DBZ fanfic.

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* ContestedSequel:
** The ''Raging Blast'' games. Proponents will point to the addition of customization for the actual movelists and use of WhatIf characters, while opponents criticize them for having smaller rosters and more simplistic gameplay.
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ContestedSequel: ''Ultimate Tenkaichi.'' Some people consider it better than the previous ''Raging Blast'' games, others consider it to be one of the worst DBZ games ever made with its Rock-Paper-Scissors mechanic instead of combos and strategies. It doesn't help that the plot for Hero Mode, the main attraction of DBZ, feels like a bad DBZ fanfic.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: ''Tenkaichi 3'''s story mode is heavily condensed, often skipping fights entirely like Piccolo's first encounter with Cell and Ultimate Gohan's face-off with Super Buu, and whatever fights are included are often victims of BroadStrokes, thus featuring inaccuracies such as Goku killing Super 17 in his Super Saiyan 4 form (he reverted back to his base form and killed him with a Dragon Fist before firing a point-blank Kamehameha). Considering the changes to the gameplay engine that allows for more dynamic transitions mid-fights, as well as the lack of unique in-game cutscene animations for certain interactions (such as Goku's thumbs up at the end of the Buu Saga), it can make the entire story mode system feel underutilized and makes Dragon History more shallow compared to the Z-Battle Gate and Dragon Adventure modes.
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* BrokenBase: Which is better, ''Tenkaichi 2'' or ''Tenkaichi 3''? On one hand, the story mode for ''2'' is seen as significantly better due to being similar to the ''Budokai 3'' storymode with fun WhatIf fights that are surprisingly deeper than one would expect, while having several gameplay elements that are easier to get in to, and has superior music. On the other hand, ''3'' is seen as the best roster, fun inclusions to the story mode that are more authentic to the story of the series, while still having fun WhatIf fights, and having to some the best gameplay in a ''Dragon Ball'' for a while. The debate rages on without end. [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Except in Latin America, of course]], where the debate was settled a long time ago with ''3'' coming out on top.

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* BrokenBase: Which is better, ''Tenkaichi 2'' or ''Tenkaichi 3''? On one hand, the story mode for ''2'' is seen as significantly better due to being similar to the ''Budokai 3'' storymode story mode with fun WhatIf fights that are surprisingly deeper than one would expect, while having several gameplay elements that are easier to get in to, and has superior music. On the other hand, ''3'' is seen as the best roster, fun inclusions to the story mode that are more authentic to the story of the series, while still having fun WhatIf fights, and having to some the best gameplay in a ''Dragon Ball'' for a while. The debate rages on without end. [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Except in Latin America, of course]], where the debate was settled a long time ago with ''3'' coming out on top.



** Fusion characters have their own slots in 2. If you decide to have Gogeta or Vegito with Goku and Vegeta on the same team, you can potentially have two Gogetas and two Vegitos. You can have two Gotenkses if you have Goten, Trunks, and Gotenks in the same team as well.

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** Fusion characters have their own slots in 2.''2''. If you decide to have Gogeta or Vegito with Goku and Vegeta on the same team, you can potentially have two Gogetas and two Vegitos. You can have two Gotenkses if you have Goten, Trunks, and Gotenks in the same team as well.



* UnexpectedCharacter: There are plenty of these to go around, given how big the roster is (3's in particular is enormous) but the most notable is probably [[PosthumousCharacter Grandpa Gohan]] and Selypa/Fasha, with the latter not even having on-screen fight scenes in her only appearance, making the game's moveset original.

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* UnexpectedCharacter: There are plenty of these to go around, given how big the roster is (3's (''3'''s in particular is enormous) but the most notable is probably [[PosthumousCharacter Grandpa Gohan]] and Selypa/Fasha, with the latter not even having on-screen fight scenes in her only appearance, making the game's moveset original.
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The Game files actually has sound files slots for each form, the Game Devs and/or Funimation were just lazy


* MisBlamed:
** The bug with Cell's voice constantly switching to his imperfect form is often thought to be one that they just won't fix for some reason, when the truth is that it ''can't'' be fixed. Cell's Japanese voice actor used the same voice for all three forms -- making them distinct was thought of by the English voice actor, so the Japanese-developed game didn't feel the need to reserve slots for what would have been duplicate sounds in that version.
** During the story mode of ''Tenkaichi 3'', Omega Shenron's voice sounds just like his original Syn Shenron form when speaking outside of gameplay. This is because much like Cell, Syn Shenron and Omega Shenron retains the same voice actor in the original while the dub both has two different voice actors for both forms respectively.
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* UnexpectedCharacter: There are plenty of these to go around, given how big the roster is (3's in particular is enormous) but the most notable is probably [[PosthumousCharacter Grandpa Gohan]] and Selypa/Fasha, with the latter not even having on-screen fight scenes in her only appearance, making the game's moveset original.
* WhatAnIdiot: In the "Beautiful Treachery" WhatIf story of Tenkaichi 2, Zarbon decides to use the Dragon Balls for himself so he can gain eternal beauty.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Since he's already young ([[OlderThanTheyLook or at least looks young]]), he would wish for CompleteImmortality. It would stop him from aging and make him unable to be killed. There is no reason why he shouldn't wish for this since he's already beautiful looking. Plus, this will help him if Frieza realizes Zarbon betrayed him.\\
'''Instead''': He wishes for eternal youth, despite the fact that immortality would give him the same thing and more.\\
'''As A Result''': He ends up being killed by the end of the story. Frieza even calls him out on this stupid decision, stating "appearance means nothing when you no longer exist."

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* UnexpectedCharacter: There are plenty of these to go around, given how big the roster is (3's in particular is enormous) but the most notable is probably [[PosthumousCharacter Grandpa Gohan]] and Selypa/Fasha, with the latter not even having on-screen fight scenes in her only appearance, making the game's moveset original.
* WhatAnIdiot: In the "Beautiful Treachery" WhatIf story of Tenkaichi 2, Zarbon decides to use the Dragon Balls for himself so he can gain eternal beauty.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Since he's already young ([[OlderThanTheyLook or at least looks young]]), he would wish for CompleteImmortality. It would stop him from aging and make him unable to be killed. There is no reason why he shouldn't wish for this since he's already beautiful looking. Plus, this will help him if Frieza realizes Zarbon betrayed him.\\
'''Instead''': He wishes for eternal youth, despite the fact that immortality would give him the same thing and more.\\
'''As A Result''': He ends up being killed by the end of the story. Frieza even calls him out on this stupid decision, stating "appearance means nothing when you no longer exist."
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* UnexpectedCharacter: There are plenty of these to go around, given how big the roster is (3's in particular is enormous) but the most notable is probably [[PosthumousCharacter Grandpa Gohan.]]

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* UnexpectedCharacter: There are plenty of these to go around, given how big the roster is (3's in particular is enormous) but the most notable is probably [[PosthumousCharacter Grandpa Gohan.]]Gohan]] and Selypa/Fasha, with the latter not even having on-screen fight scenes in her only appearance, making the game's moveset original.
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** In Cell's WhatIf story from the first game, every single opponent (except Super 17) says [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnh2oQI9xUo the exact same line]] in a [[DullSurprise rather disinterested voice]] after you beat them.
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** The ''Raging Blast'' games. Proponents will point to the addition of customization for the actual movelists and use of WhatIf characters. Opponents tend to cite the lack of a large roster and less deep gameplay.

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** The ''Raging Blast'' games. Proponents will point to the addition of customization for the actual movelists and use of WhatIf characters. Opponents tend to cite the lack of a large roster characters, while opponents criticize them for having smaller rosters and less deep more simplistic gameplay.
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* UnexpectedCharacter: There are plenty of these to go around, given how big the roster is (3's in particular is enormous) but the most notable is probably [[PosthumousCharacter Grandpa Gohan.]]
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** ''Ultimate Tenkaichi.'' Some people consider it better than the previous ''Raging Blast'' games, others consider it to be one of the worst DBZ games ever made with its Rock-Paper-Scissors mechanic instead of combos and strategies. It doesn't help that Hero Mode, the main attraction of DBZ, seems to have a plot which looks like a bad DBZ fanfic.

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** ''Ultimate Tenkaichi.'' Some people consider it better than the previous ''Raging Blast'' games, others consider it to be one of the worst DBZ games ever made with its Rock-Paper-Scissors mechanic instead of combos and strategies. It doesn't help that the plot for Hero Mode, the main attraction of DBZ, seems to have a plot which looks feels like a bad DBZ fanfic.
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** Zangya's line "Don't cha wish your girlfriend was tough like me? Don't cha?" It's an obvious reference to the Pussycat Dolls song ''Don't Cha'' that was popular at the time, and firmly dates the game to the UsefulNotes/TurnOfTheMillennium.
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* Fusion characters have their own slots in 2. If you decide to have Gogeta or Vegito with Goku and Vegeta on the same team, you can potentially have two Gogetas and two Vegitos. You can have two Gotenks' if you have Goten, Trunks, and Gotenks in the same team as well.

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* ** Fusion characters have their own slots in 2. If you decide to have Gogeta or Vegito with Goku and Vegeta on the same team, you can potentially have two Gogetas and two Vegitos. You can have two Gotenks' Gotenkses if you have Goten, Trunks, and Gotenks in the same team as well.
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* AccidentalInnuendo: In "Budokai Tenkaichi 3", Babidi's strongest attack has him holding his lamp in front of him and... er... [[ADateWithRosiePalms rubbing it vigorously until a laser shoots out of it...]] Okay...

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* AccidentalInnuendo: In "Budokai ''Budokai Tenkaichi 3", 3'', Babidi's strongest attack has him holding his lamp in front of him and... er... [[ADateWithRosiePalms rubbing it vigorously until a laser shoots out of it...]] Okay...
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* Fusion characters have their own slots in 2. If you decide to have Gogeta or Vegito with Goku and Vegeta on the same team, you can potentially have two Gogetas and two Vegitos. You can have two Gotenks' if you have Goten, Trunks, and Gotenks in the same team as well.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The Japanese version of the games featured Shunsuke Kikuchi's score from the anime. Due to licensing issues, the international versions did not keep this. This irritated some fans. On the other hand, most people will agree that the score for ''Tenkaichi 2'' was quite good.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The Japanese version of the games featured Shunsuke Kikuchi's score from the anime. Due to licensing issues, the international versions did not keep this. This irritated some fans. On the other hand, most people will agree that the score for ''Tenkaichi 2'' was quite good.good.
* WhatAnIdiot: In the "Beautiful Treachery" WhatIf story of Tenkaichi 2, Zarbon decides to use the Dragon Balls for himself so he can gain eternal beauty.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Since he's already young ([[OlderThanTheyLook or at least looks young]]), he would wish for CompleteImmortality. It would stop him from aging and make him unable to be killed. There is no reason why he shouldn't wish for this since he's already beautiful looking. Plus, this will help him if Frieza realizes Zarbon betrayed him.\\
'''Instead''': He wishes for eternal youth, despite the fact that immortality would give him the same thing and more.\\
'''As A Result''': He ends up being killed by the end of the story. Frieza even calls him out on this stupid decision, stating "appearance means nothing when you no longer exist."
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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: All three games are considered to be competent, if simple, fighters, with many considering their gameplay to be the most faithful to classic ''DBZ'' action, and the sheer amount of content helps add to their appeal0. ''2'' and ''3'' in particular are in the running for the best ''Dragon Ball'' game ever.

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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: All three games are considered to be competent, if simple, fighters, with many considering their gameplay to be the most faithful to classic ''DBZ'' action, and the sheer amount of content helps add to their appeal0.appeal. ''2'' and ''3'' in particular are in the running for the best ''Dragon Ball'' game ever.
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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: All three games are considered to be competently made fighters, with many considering their gameplay to be the most faithful to classic ''DBZ'' action. ''2'' and ''3'' in particular are in the running for the best ''Dragon Ball'' game ever.

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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: All three games are considered to be competently made competent, if simple, fighters, with many considering their gameplay to be the most faithful to classic ''DBZ'' action.action, and the sheer amount of content helps add to their appeal0. ''2'' and ''3'' in particular are in the running for the best ''Dragon Ball'' game ever.
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* TheProblemWithLicensedGames: On the other hand, at the very long end of the developer's run with the ''Dragon Ball'' series was the infamous ''Dragon Ball Z: For Kinect''. Effectively a butchered version of ''Ultimate Tenkaichi'', using all of the same assets wholesale, it tried to sell the idea of fighting like the Z-Fighters with the Kinect's motion controls; instead you had a game that barely functioned and was just a literal exercise in frustration, on top of further mucking up a ContestedSequel in its mechanics.


* MostAnnoyingSound: Any time a character is on a menu screen they're bound to constantly speak a phrase for whatever you're doing. This gets especially annoying in ''Tenkaichi 2's'' item shop, with Baba's "Is this okay?" "We have many others!" repeated over and over if you're buying a lot of items.
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* SugarWiki/NoProblemWithLicensedGames: All three games are considered to be competently made fighters, with many considering their gameplay to be the most faithful to classic ''DBZ'' action. ''2'' and ''3'' in particular are in the running for the best ''Dragon Ball'' game ever.
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* HeartwarmingMoments: If you play Future Gohan against Goten, he is baffled to find out that he has a brother since Goku died in his timeline before Goten was conceived. If Future Gohan beats Goten, we get this little gem.

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* HeartwarmingMoments: SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: If you play Future Gohan against Goten, he is baffled to find out that he has a brother since Goku died in his timeline before Goten was conceived. If Future Gohan beats Goten, we get this little gem.

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* ScrappyMechanic: Unlike the previous and future games, ''Budokai Tenkaichi 3'''s World Tournament mode uses an in-game timer that goes up by 10 minutes if you even so much as enter and exit a menu screen. Depending on the time, a new Tournament will be open in World Tour mode (World Tournament, Cell Games, Martial Arts Big Tournament, Otherworld Tournament, and Yamcha's Game). However, while the Tournament times are pre-determined, [[RandomNumberGod the difficulty you play them on is not]], so trying to unlock that one character or stage for HundredPercentCompletion could be made unnecessarily difficult. There is a Free Mode where you can choose any tournament you want at any difficulty, [[EasyModeMockery but completing a tournament that way gets you jack squat]].

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Unlike the previous and future games, ''Budokai Tenkaichi 3'''s World Tournament mode uses an in-game timer that goes up by 10 minutes if you even so much as enter and exit a menu screen. Depending on the time, a new Tournament will be open in World Tour mode (World Tournament, Cell Games, Martial Arts Big Tournament, Otherworld Tournament, and Yamcha's Game). However, while the Tournament times are pre-determined, [[RandomNumberGod the difficulty you play them on is not]], so trying to unlock that one character or stage for HundredPercentCompletion could be made unnecessarily difficult. There is a Free Mode where you can choose any tournament you want at any difficulty, [[EasyModeMockery but completing a tournament that way gets you jack squat]].squat]].
** In the ''Budokai'' trilogy and ''Tenkaichi 1'', Ginyu's Body Change ultimate was a GameBreaker, being able to switch positions with a stronger opponent to gain the upper hand. The Body Change fell into this come ''Tenkaichi 2'' and ''3'', where it was nerfed '''horribly''' to the point where it became useless, borderlining Ginyu in the JokeCharacter zone. Rather than switching bodies with the opponent, Ginyu will randomly switch with another character off the field (mostly from the Frieza Saga). However, not only are his stats worse than before, he looses access to all of his special attacks, even from his orginal body. In ''Ultimate Tenkaichi'', his Body Change was restricted to a transformation, switching bodies with Goku and Goku only.
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* FandomRivalry: A minor one with fans of ''Budokai 3.'' Fans of ''Budokai'' cite its more polished combat engine and better balance, while seeing ''Tenkaichi'' as bloated by comparison, while fans of ''Tenkaichi'' favor it for the larger roster and better simulation of the series's combat, while claiming that ''Budokai'' isn't ''that'' much better as a fighting game. They're mostly content to say that both are good games, though.
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* ScrappyMechanic: Unlike the previous and future games, ''Budokai Tenkaichi 3'''s World Tournament mode uses an in-game timer that goes up by 10 minutes if you even so much as enter and exit a menu screen. Depending on the time, a new Tournament will be open in World Tour mode (World Tournament, Cell Games, Martial Arts Big Tournament, Otherworld Tournament, and Yamcha's Game). However, while the Tournament times are pre-determined, [[RandomNumberGod the difficulty you play them on is not]], so trying to unlock that one character or stage for HundredPercentCompletion could be made unnecessarily difficult. There is a Free Mode where you can choose any tournament you want at any difficulty, [[AWinnerIsYou but completing a tournament that way]] [[EasyModeMockery gets you jack squat]].

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* ScrappyMechanic: Unlike the previous and future games, ''Budokai Tenkaichi 3'''s World Tournament mode uses an in-game timer that goes up by 10 minutes if you even so much as enter and exit a menu screen. Depending on the time, a new Tournament will be open in World Tour mode (World Tournament, Cell Games, Martial Arts Big Tournament, Otherworld Tournament, and Yamcha's Game). However, while the Tournament times are pre-determined, [[RandomNumberGod the difficulty you play them on is not]], so trying to unlock that one character or stage for HundredPercentCompletion could be made unnecessarily difficult. There is a Free Mode where you can choose any tournament you want at any difficulty, [[AWinnerIsYou [[EasyModeMockery but completing a tournament that way]] [[EasyModeMockery way gets you jack squat]].
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* ScrappyMechanic: Unlike the previous and future games, ''Budokai Tenkaichi 3'''s World Tournament mode uses an in-game timer that goes up by 10 minutes if you even so much as enter and exit a menu screen. Depending on the time, a new Tournament will be open in World Tour mode (World Tournament, Cell Games, Martial Arts Big Tournament, Otherworld Tournament, and Yamcha's Game). However, while the Tournament times are pre-determined, [[RandomNumberGod the difficulty you play them on is not]], so trying to unlock that one character or stage for HundredPercentCompletion could be made unnecessarily difficult. There is a Free Mode where you can choose any tournament you want at any difficulty, [[AWinnerIsYou but completing a tournament that way]] [[EasyModeMockery gets you jack squat]].

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Vegeta's explanation of Tenkaichi 1's CPU vs. CPU mode.
-->'''Vegeta:''' Have the computer fight itself. [[SarcasmMode Wow. Sounds like fun.]]
** Nappa gives one if you linger in the versus menu in Tenkaichi 3.
--->'''Nappa:''' Hey, uh...you think if I went Super Saiyan, my goatee would grow?
*** According to ''Videogame/DragonBallHeroes'', yes, yes it does!!
** In ''Ultimate Tenkaichi'', picking the "Crazy" voice option for your character in Hero Mode results in some pretty hilarious lines and sound bytes from the Hero. And even when he DOES say something relatively serious, his thick New York accent makes it very difficult to take him seriously.
*** In fact, depending on which voice you pick, almost any scene can come across as comedic.
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* AccidentalInnuendo: In "Budokai Tenkaichi 3", Babidi's strongest attack has him holding his lamp in front of him and... er... [[ADateWithRosiePalms rubbing it vigorously until a laser shoots out of it...]] Okay...
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: ''Budokai Tenkaichi 3'' is considered the best "Dragon Ball" game in Europe and America (specially in Latin America), whereas, in Asia, is the worst of the Budokai Tenkaichi series that even the score it get for fans of those countires don't reach to 7.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: ''Budokai Tenkaichi 3'' is considered the best "Dragon Ball" game in Europe and America (specially in Latin America), whereas, in Asia, is the worst of the Budokai Tenkaichi series that even the score it get for fans of those countires countries don't reach to 7.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: ''Budokai Tenkaichi 3'' is beloved in Latin America, so much that a modding community to change the english dub for the Latin American dub is amazingly popular. There are also many videos changing the game code to make characters from ''Dragon Ball Super'' to appear in the game, though the quality tend to vary.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: ''Budokai Tenkaichi 3'' is beloved considered the best "Dragon Ball" game in Europe and America (specially in Latin America, so much America), whereas, in Asia, is the worst of the Budokai Tenkaichi series that a modding community to change even the english dub score it get for the Latin American dub is amazingly popular. There are also many videos changing the game code fans of those countires don't reach to make characters from ''Dragon Ball Super'' to appear in the game, though the quality tend to vary.7.

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