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** Hei will die. But his soul will choose to go back in time, the time when he was happiest, and he will be at season 1 first episode. Suou who loves Hei wants to be with him too and wants to be in a time when Hei'd love her, but since he already loves Yin she'll go back in time before Hei is born, and became his mother.
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** Hei will die. But his soul will choose to go back in time, the time when he was happiest, and he will be at season 1 first episode. Suou who loves Hei wants to be with him too and wants to be in a time when Hei'd love her, but since he already loves Yin she'll go back in time before Hei is born, and became become his mother.[[hottip:*:Said meme is a copypasta that jokingly places Hei, Suou, and Yin in the roles of three primary characters in the ShadowHearts series. Said explanation is a HotTip because it's also the [[spoiler: ending to the ''second game.'']]
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** And then you have the people who think that second season ''did'' stagnate the plot, and that Suou's spotlight stealing made it ''even worse''.
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YMMV sinkhole
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* LeaveThePlotThreadsHanging: The complete lack of explanation for the [[EldritchLocation Gates]], AlienSky, and the like generally works well enough that resolving exactly what's going on would probably be a bit of a letdown. YourMileageMayVary on the second season.
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* LeaveThePlotThreadsHanging: The complete lack of explanation for the [[EldritchLocation Gates]], AlienSky, and the like generally works well enough that resolving exactly what's going on would probably be a bit of a letdown. YourMileageMayVary on the second season.
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* {{Sequelitis}} / SeasonalRot: [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]], of course (and boy does it ever!), but a solid few of the fanbase are very and vocally dissatisfied with the new tone.
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* {{Sequelitis}} / SeasonalRot: [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]], of course (and boy does it ever!), but a A solid few of the fanbase are very and vocally dissatisfied with the new tone.
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: To the second season. [[YourMileageMayVary Insert appropriate refrain here]].
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: To the second season. [[YourMileageMayVary Insert appropriate refrain here]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[YourMileageMayVary Not everyone agrees with this]]. Those who do agree are generally the same people who think that Suou [[SpotlightStealingSquad gets way too much screen-time]] and therefore like to call her [[MarySue "Mary-Suou"]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[YourMileageMayVary Not everyone agrees with this]]. Those who do agree are generally the same people who think that Suou [[SpotlightStealingSquad gets way too much screen-time]] and therefore like to call her [[MarySue "Mary-Suou"]].
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Some people ignore the second season entirely.
* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Izanami's awakening.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Some people ignore the second season entirely.
* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Izanami's awakening.entirely
* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Izanami's awakening.
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* NightmareFuel: Nika and cockroaches - just... ''gah!''
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* NightmareFuel: NightmareFuel:
** Nika and cockroaches - just...''gah!''''gah!''
** Izanami's awakening.
** Nika and cockroaches - just...
** Izanami's awakening.
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** Havock, before we meet her.
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** Havock, Havoc, before we meet her.
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--->"I can't let that writer live!" * Pulls out pen with an [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome over-the-top]] sword sound effect* "[[DeathNote I'm writing his name in my notebook!]]"
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--->"I can't let that writer live!" * Pulls out pen with an [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome over-the-top]] sword sound effect* "[[DeathNote "[[Manga/DeathNote I'm writing his name in my notebook!]]"
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* CreatorsPet: This seems to be a common view of Suo; some fans even think that her [[SpotlightStealingSquad spotlight stealing]] is ''entirely'' responsible for [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot ruining an otherwise decent plot]].
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* CreatorsPet: This seems to be a common view of Suo; Suou; some fans even think that her [[SpotlightStealingSquad spotlight stealing]] is ''entirely'' responsible for [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot ruining an otherwise decent plot]].plot]].
** Of course, Suou also has her fans, who thought that she gave the season a fresh approach which it sorely needed, since season 1 all over again (just substituting Amber with [[spoiler: Yin/Izanami]] would have stagnated the plot.
** Of course, Suou also has her fans, who thought that she gave the season a fresh approach which it sorely needed, since season 1 all over again (just substituting Amber with [[spoiler: Yin/Izanami]] would have stagnated the plot.
** Amber isn't evil. She's an antagonist, but she is never shown to be evil.
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* ToyShip: Suo/[[spoiler:July,]] who's [[EmotionlessGirl somehow]] fond of her.
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* HoYay: Shichi enjoys [[MasterOfIllusion pretending to be a woman]] who was in love with Hei a little too much.
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* FoeYay: Misaki and Hei, ever so much. In the second season, Mina jokes that she's saving her virginity for him.
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* LesYay: Buckets aimed at Misaki. She doesn't reciprocate much, though. In all fairness, pretty much every character has at least a little attraction for her, not just the women.
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** Despite being a major MindScrew, [[spoiler: what happens to Nick in episode 12 is also oddly emotional, especially when you remember what his dream was.]]
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* [[spoiler: Also November 11 and Huang.]]
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* CrackPairing: Hei/Hazuki. [[spoiler:Hilariously enough, the only shipping pair to actually get any action.
[[IntimateHealing That remuneration]] sure is awkward, huh?]]
[[IntimateHealing That remuneration]] sure is awkward, huh?]]
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* CrackPairing: Hei/Hazuki. [[spoiler:Hilariously enough, the only shipping pair to actually get any action.
action. [[IntimateHealing That remuneration]] sure is awkward, huh?]]
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* SpotLightStealingSquad: Suou
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** Claude really has no redeeming qualities to speak of.
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** Claude really has no redeeming qualities to speak of. He ends up slaughtering an entire building full of contractors who wished to live peacefully. All while wearing that [[PsychoticSmirk evil bastard smile]], no doubt.
* EverybodyRemembersTheStripper: In retrospect, it probably wasn't the most brilliant idea to make the episode where [[InnocentFanserviceGirl November 11 lounges around naked]] be [[spoiler:the same one where he dies]] -- otherwise, you end up with fan memorials that [[http://community.livejournal.com/darker_than/115727.html#cutid1 get a little mixed up]].
**Claude's massacre of a group of Contractors who just wanted to live in peace. Particularly since given [[MasterOfIllusion his powers]], he had [[ForTheEvulz no real reason to do it]].
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* CrackPairing: Hei/Hazuki. [[spoiler:Hilariously enough, the only shipping pair to actually get any action. [[IntimateHealing That remuneration]] sure is awkward, huh?]]
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* CrackPairing: Hei/Hazuki. [[spoiler:Hilariously enough, the only shipping pair to actually get any action.action.
[[IntimateHealing That remuneration]] sure is awkward, huh?]]
[[IntimateHealing That remuneration]] sure is awkward, huh?]]
* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: Izanami's awakening.
* SelectiveSquick: In general, the more {{squick}}y you find {{lolicon}}, the less you'll like the second season. If you can ignore the subtext completely and don't mind Hei's [[TookALevelInJerkass jerkification]], it's actually quite good, but for others... [[{{Sequelitis}} yeah]].
* {{Sequelitis}} / SeasonalRot: [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]], of course (and boy does it ever!), but a solid few of the fanbase are very and vocally dissatisfied with the new tone.
** Though many were somewhat mollified towards the end, when the {{lolicon}} subtext was turned down and [[HesBack Hei stopped acting so obnoxious]].
* {{Sequelitis}} / SeasonalRot: [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]], of course (and boy does it ever!), but a solid few of the fanbase are very and vocally dissatisfied with the new tone.
** Though many were somewhat mollified towards the end, when the {{lolicon}} subtext was turned down and [[HesBack Hei stopped acting so obnoxious]].
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: To the second season. [[YourMileageMayVary Insert appropriate refrain here]].
* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: To the second season. [[YourMileageMayVary Insert appropriate refrain here]].
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** Hei's NotSoStoic moment in the Gaiden. The worst part is that [[spoiler:if you've watched the second season, you know she ''does''.]]
** Yin's nightmare. She keeps quietly saying Hei's name... which you quickly realize is the EmotionlessGirl equivalent of screaming for help.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[YourMileageMayVary Not everyone agrees with this]]. Those who do agree are generally the same people who think that Suou [[SpotlightStealingSquad gets way too much screen-time]] and therefore like to call her [[MarySue "Mary-Suou"]].
** Yin's nightmare. She keeps quietly saying Hei's name... which you quickly realize is the EmotionlessGirl equivalent of screaming for help.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[YourMileageMayVary Not everyone agrees with this]]. Those who do agree are generally the same people who think that Suou [[SpotlightStealingSquad gets way too much screen-time]] and therefore like to call her [[MarySue "Mary-Suou"]].
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* CreatorsPet: This seems to be a common view of Suo; some fans even think that her [[SpotlightStealingSquad spotlight stealing]] is ''entirely'' responsible for [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot ruining an otherwise decent plot]].
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* TheWesley: This seems to be a common view of Suo; some fans even think that her [[SpotlightStealingSquad spotlight stealing]] is ''entirely'' responsible for [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot ruining an otherwise decent plot]].
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* MoralEventHorizon: If you [[LaughablyEvil somehow]] still harbored any sympathy for Genma, the throwaway comment in the last episode that [[spoiler:he was the one who killed Youko]] pushes him straight into CompleteMonster territory.
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* MoralEventHorizon: If you [[LaughablyEvil somehow]] still harbored any sympathy for Genma, the throwaway comment in the last episode that [[spoiler:he was the one who killed Youko]] Youko and the implications of having raped her prior or even worse; after her death]] pushes him straight into CompleteMonster territory.
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** Ilya Sokoloff.
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** Ilya Sokoloff.
** Claude really has no redeeming qualities to speak of.
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** Then there's the time when Hei was infiltrating a restaurant and a violent, drunk customer decided he had a problem with the waiter. Result: Huge tough guy trying to beat up a cute, skinny little waiter who [[AwkwardAbility isn't doing that great of a job of hiding his epic ninja skills]].
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** Then there's the time when Hei was infiltrating a restaurant and a violent, drunk customer decided he had a problem with the waiter. Result: Huge tough guy trying to beat up a cute, skinny little waiter who [[AwkwardAbility [[CoverBlowingSuperpower isn't doing that great of a job of hiding his epic ninja skills]].
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* MoralEventHorizon: If you [[EvillyAffable somehow]] still harbored any sympathy for Genma, the throwaway comment in the last episode that [[spoiler:he was the one who killed Youko]] pushes him straight into CompleteMonster territory.
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* MoralEventHorizon: If you [[EvillyAffable [[LaughablyEvil somehow]] still harbored any sympathy for Genma, the throwaway comment in the last episode that [[spoiler:he was the one who killed Youko]] pushes him straight into CompleteMonster territory.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Some people ignore the second season entirely.
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!! Season 1
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!! Season 1Seasons 1 and 2
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler:Yoko]]
* CompleteMonster:
** [[spoiler: It's pretty clear that Genma is one by the end of the series.]]
** Havock, before we meet her.
** Daisuke does an impressive number of horrible things in the [[spoiler: short]] time we see him. He sleeps with his charges ([[spoiler:including his ''cousin'']]), posts [[DigitalPiracyIsEvil web-porn of his conquests]], tries to deny it when confronted about it and when that fails, tries to blame his lovers for his wandering eye and refuses to apologize for anything he did. He apparently gets a teacher to agree to sleep with him by drugging her, hires a gang to "take care" of one of his mouthier lovers, and tasers his would-be [[spoiler:and eventual]] killer [[UngratefulBastard after she decides to spare him.]]
* EnsembleDarkhorse: November 11 was [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff quite popular with North American fans]], at least partly due to his [[JamesBond classy bearing]] and sense of humour.
* EvilIsSexy: Amber
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The American fanbase loves November 11.
* IronWoobie: Havock
* MagnificentBastard: Amber. No surprise considering her powers to [[spoiler: travel through time]] gives her the upper hand to manipulate people and events.
* MemeticBadass: Hei, definitely.
* MemeticSexGod: Hei. C'mon, just [[EvenTheGuysWantHim check out]] those ''[[MemeticMutation collar]][[FemaleGaze bones]]''.
* {{Moe}}:
** Yin. Seems to come with the territory when you're an EmotionlessGirl.
** Amber, played up deliberately.
** Meena
* MoralEventHorizon:
** Daisuke posting web porn of his conquests whilst they remain ignorant of it. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking With badly blocked out faces.]] [[spoiler: Then hiring a gang to rape Azusa '''AND''' Kyouko, with Kyouko as an unwitting accomplice, just so he can "rescue Azusa" or so she can't tell on him.]]
** [[spoiler: The callous and horrible way in which Tanya kills her other best friend/crush Nika.]]
* StoicWoobie: It sucks to be Yin.
* TooCoolToLive: [[spoiler:August 7. Or so we thought.]]
* ToyShip: Suo/[[spoiler:July,]] who's [[EmotionlessGirl somehow]] fond of her.
* TheWesley: This seems to be a common view of Suo; some fans even think that her [[SpotlightStealingSquad spotlight stealing]] is ''entirely'' responsible for [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot ruining an otherwise decent plot]].
!! Season 1
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Missed Moment Of Awesome (now Offscreen Moment Of Awesome) is not \"they SHOULD have done it, it\'d be cool.\" It\'s \"they DID do it, but offscreen where you couldn\'t see it\"
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* MissedMomentOfAwesome: All the buildup to the fight near the end [[spoiler:between Hei and Wei]], and it's over that quickly? Absolutely criminal.
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** Why oh why wasn't [[TimeMaster Amber]] code-named [[MeaningfulName January]] by the SIS?
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* CompleteMonster: Ilya Sokolov, a creepy motherfucker even by Contractor standards. Just in case he wasn't horrifying enough, he casually revealed that he had been a SerialKiller '''before''' he became a Contractor. [[spoiler:''The guy who hired him'' thanks Hei for killing the psycho.]]
** [[spoiler:Genma, arguably, crossed into this territory.]]
* CrackPairing: Hei/Hazuki. [[spoiler:Hilariously enough, the only shipping pair to actually get any action. [[IntimateHealing That remuneration]] sure is awkward, huh?]]
* CrazyAwesome: Playing chicken with an ''airplane''.[[spoiler: Hei. Genma. Episode 9.]]
** [[spoiler:Genma, arguably, crossed into this territory.]]
* CrackPairing: Hei/Hazuki. [[spoiler:Hilariously enough, the only shipping pair to actually get any action. [[IntimateHealing That remuneration]] sure is awkward, huh?]]
* CrazyAwesome: Playing chicken with an ''airplane''.[[spoiler: Hei. Genma. Episode 9.]]
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** Although we really don't know what [[PutOnABus happens to]] [[spoiler:Nick]]. Stupid MindScrew-inducing [[EldritchLocation Gate]].* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: See TakingYouWithMe and DyingMomentOfAwesome. Since Hei lives and breathes pure awesome, though, it can be hard to pick out specifics.
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** Although we really don't know what [[PutOnABus happens to]] [[spoiler:Nick]]. Stupid MindScrew-inducing [[EldritchLocation Gate]].Gate]].
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: See TakingYouWithMe and DyingMomentOfAwesome. Since Hei lives and breathes pure awesome, though, it can be hard to pick out specifics.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: See TakingYouWithMe and DyingMomentOfAwesome. Since Hei lives and breathes pure awesome, though, it can be hard to pick out specifics.
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** Why oh why wasn't [[TimeMaster Amber]] code-named [[MeaningfulName January]] by the SIS?
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* AdaptationDecay[=/=]AdaptationDistillation: It's AnimeFirst, so both manga series are spinoffs. The first is nowhere near as dark as the main series usually is, to the point where it's closer to {{shoujo}} than {{seinen}}. The art is more stylized as well (among other things, Hei goes from "hawt" to "[[{{bishonen}} pretty]]"). The {{interquel}} is a good deal darker, with a more realistic style that looks a lot more like the anime.
