History YMMV / Cinderella

11th Mar '17 4:40:25 PM ElSquibbonator
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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Cinderella is generally used as the UrExample of the "weak, passive" DamselInDistress PrincessClassic that gets bashed in this post-feminist era. While [[SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs Snow White]] and [[SleepingBeauty Aurora]] are also pretty meek, they get at least some leeway since there's action ''in'' their films, even if they don't participate in it (the dwarves chasing the Evil Queen off a cliff; Philip battling Maleficint). Cinderella gets no such leeway.

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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Cinderella is generally used as the UrExample of the "weak, passive" DamselInDistress PrincessClassic that gets bashed in this post-feminist era. While [[SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs Snow White]] and [[SleepingBeauty Aurora]] are also pretty meek, they get at least some a little bit of leeway since there's action ''in'' their films, even if they don't participate in it (the dwarves chasing the Evil Queen off a cliff; Philip battling Maleficint). Cinderella gets no such leeway.
9th Mar '17 7:43:34 AM dsneybuf
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* SpecialEffectFailure: Cinderella's flying carriage in the 1965 version looks like a cel or cut-out puppet with a painted background sliding behind it.
** During the shots of Cinderella inside the carriage, the "countryside" seen in her window looks like it was added with a chroma key effect.

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* SpecialEffectFailure: Cinderella's flying carriage in the 1965 version looks like a cel or cut-out puppet with a painted background sliding behind it.
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it. During the shots of Cinderella inside the carriage, the "countryside" seen in her window looks like it was added with a chroma key effect.
8th Mar '17 8:17:46 PM Give1Take2
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Some, like [[TheNostalgiaCritic Doug Walker]], see Cinderella as a broken down victim of domestic abuse who's been so conditioned since early childhood by her [[AbusiveParents abusive stepmother]] to think she doesn't deserve better that she starts off believing it, until her taste of life and happiness away from her abusive family (at the ball, with the prince) convinces her that she ''is'' worth it, and that she needs to ''get out''.



* MisBlamed: Fans of the {{Grimmifi|cation}}ed version of ''Cinderella'' tend to accuse Disney of toning the story down by skipping over the gory scenes. Actually, the version Disney chose to adapt, the original story by Creator/CharlesPerrault, didn't have any gore to begin with, and the Grimm's version is based off of Perrault's. In reality, the original Cinderella is most likely the Chinese version of the story, Yeh-Shen, and that is debated.

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* MisBlamed: Fans of the {{Grimmifi|cation}}ed version of ''Cinderella'' tend to accuse Disney of toning the story down by skipping over the gory scenes. Actually, the version Disney chose to adapt, adapt is the original story version written by Creator/CharlesPerrault, which didn't have any gore to begin with, and the with. The Grimm's version is based off of Perrault's. In reality, the original Cinderella is most likely the Chinese version of the story, Yeh-Shen, and that is debated.was also written over a century after Perrault's.


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* NeverLiveItDown: The Prince for being in the film for [[SmallRoleBigImpact thirty seconds despite his big role in the story]], and for trying to find his true love via shoe size rather than facial recognition. (Though most viewers who accuse him of this seem to forget that the King, who was so desperate to get his son hitched to ''any girl'' ASAP so [[IWantGrandkids he could start giving him grand kids ASAP]], [[LoopholeAbuse deliberately misconstrued the prince's vow]] and used his ExactWords[[note]]The context makes it clear that what the Prince meant was that he would not rest until he found the girl who ''owned'' the slipper, but the king chose to zero in on the words "fits this slipper"[[/note]] to force the Prince to marry the first girl to fit the slipper, that the King himself sent out behind the Prince's back.)


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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Cinderella is generally used as the UrExample of the "weak, passive" DamselInDistress PrincessClassic that gets bashed in this post-feminist era. While [[SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs Snow White]] and [[SleepingBeauty Aurora]] are also pretty meek, they get at least some leeway since there's action ''in'' their films, even if they don't participate in it (the dwarves chasing the Evil Queen off a cliff; Philip battling Maleficint). Cinderella gets no such leeway.
23rd Feb '17 8:26:24 AM dsneybuf
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* GirlShowGhetto: The Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise pushed several Disney movies into this, but ''Cinderella'' might have fallen the most deeply. The [[WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyPlatinumEditions Platinum Edition]] DVD has a girlier set of games than any other movie in the collection, and the ''Cinderella'' Trilogy Blu-Ray/DVD Boxset released in conjunction with the movies' [[WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyDiamondEditions Blu-Ray/Digital HD debuts]] comes packaged in a pink jewelry box. In the UK, ''Cinderella'' [=DVDs=] actually got pulled out of the Disney Vault for a few weeks of 2011, so families anticipating the Royal Wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton could share them with their daughters.

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* GirlShowGhetto: The Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise pushed several Disney movies into this, but ''Cinderella'' might have fallen the most deeply. The [[WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyPlatinumEditions Platinum Edition]] Edition DVD has a girlier set of games than any other movie in the collection, and the ''Cinderella'' Trilogy Blu-Ray/DVD Boxset released in conjunction with the movies' [[WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyDiamondEditions Blu-Ray/Digital HD debuts]] comes packaged in a pink white jewelry box. In the UK, ''Cinderella'' [=DVDs=] actually got pulled out of the Disney Vault for a few weeks of 2011, so families anticipating the Royal Wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton could share them with their daughters.
14th Feb '17 4:18:08 AM Tightwire
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* WhatAnIdiot: Sadly, Cinderella picks up the Idiot Ball in the climax, when the Grand Duke is coming. She, of course, was the mysterious girl that the prince danced and fell in love with, and is the owner of the glass slipper they are bringing. At this point, the stepfamily is rushing to get ready for the Duke's arrival and shoe-fitting, and don't know about Cinderella being at the ball, having torn up the original dress she was going to wear. Lady Tremaine and the stepsisters, as usual, charge Cinderella with cleaning up and doing chores.
** '''You'd Expect''' For Cinderella to go about her chores like any other day and keep a low profile, knowing that only she can fit the slipper, and, having dealt with the Tremaines most of her life, also knowing that they will be hell-bent on stopping her from getting out from under their feet, and will take action if something even seems remotely off about her.
** '''Instead''' Upon hearing that the Duke is coming with the other slipper, Cinderella immediately zones out, drops a tray full of tea, and then hands the stepsisters' laundry back to them and softly dances back upstairs to get ready for her new life, singing "So This Is Love." It only takes 3 seconds of musing for Lady Tremaine to realize that Cinderella was the mystery girl at the ball, and wicked as ever, she follows her upstairs and locks her in her room, forcing the mice to retrieve the key in the film's climax.
*** Doubles as a happy BSOD.

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* WhatAnIdiot: Sadly, You could say that Cinderella picks up the Idiot Ball IdiotBall in the climax, when she goes completely dizzy over the Grand Duke is coming. She, of course, was touring the houses, looking for the mysterious girl that who danced with the prince danced and fell in love with, and is the owner of the glass slipper they are bringing. At this point, the stepfamily is rushing to get ready for the Duke's arrival and shoe-fitting, and don't know about Cinderella being at the ball, having torn up the original dress she was going to wear. all night. It's what makes Lady Tremaine suspect her and the stepsisters, as usual, charge Cinderella with cleaning up and doing chores.
** '''You'd Expect''' For Cinderella to go about her chores like any other day and keep a low profile, knowing that only she can fit the slipper, and, having dealt with the Tremaines most of her life, also knowing that they will be hell-bent on stopping her from getting out from under their feet, and will take action if something even seems remotely off about her.
** '''Instead''' Upon hearing that the Duke is coming with the other slipper, Cinderella immediately zones out, drops a tray full of tea, and then hands the stepsisters' laundry back to them and softly dances back upstairs to get ready for her new life, singing "So This Is Love." It only takes 3 seconds of musing for Lady Tremaine to realize that Cinderella was the mystery girl at the ball, and wicked as ever, she follows her upstairs and locks
lock her in her room, forcing the mice after all. But is it stupid, or is it just a perfectly understandable reaction to retrieve the key in the film's climax.
*** Doubles as
learning that you could be marrying a prince?
** Whatever your opinion, you have to admit you wouldn't get your
happy BSOD.BSOD without it.
** Was Cinderella an idiot to come downstairs in her new dress, even though her step-mother was doing everything possible to keep her from the ball? Or a case of GoodCannotComprehendEvil, with her being ''too kind'' to see Lady Tremaine's treachery coming when she'd held up her own end of the deal so diligently?
14th Feb '17 2:19:04 AM Tightwire
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** Cinderella has received criticism for acting subservient to her stepfamily, and depending on others to help her achieve her dreams, as well as praise for maintaining faith in the face of abuse, and taking more steps towards achieving her dreams than Disney/{{Snow White| and the Seven Dwarfs}} and [[Disney/SleepingBeauty Aurora]] did.

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** Cinderella has received criticism for acting subservient to her stepfamily, and depending on others to help her achieve her dreams, as well as praise for maintaining faith in the face of abuse, and taking more steps towards achieving her dreams than Disney/{{Snow White| and the Seven Dwarfs}} and [[Disney/SleepingBeauty Aurora]] did. She has become far more assertive and confident in the more recent sequels.



* GirlShowGhetto: The Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise pushed several Disney movies into this, but ''Cinderella'' might have fallen the most deeply. The [[WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyPlatinumEditions Platinum Edition]] DVD has a girlier set of games than any other movie in the collection, and the ''Cinderella'' Trilogy Blu-Ray/DVD Boxset released in conjunction with the movies' [[WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyDiamondEditions Blu-Ray/Digital HD debuts]] comes packaged in a jewelry box. In the UK, ''Cinderella'' [=DVDs=] actually got pulled out of the Disney Vault for a few weeks of 2011, so families anticipating the Royal Wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton could share them with their daughters.

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* GirlShowGhetto: The Franchise/DisneyPrincess franchise pushed several Disney movies into this, but ''Cinderella'' might have fallen the most deeply. The [[WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyPlatinumEditions Platinum Edition]] DVD has a girlier set of games than any other movie in the collection, and the ''Cinderella'' Trilogy Blu-Ray/DVD Boxset released in conjunction with the movies' [[WaltDisneyHomeVideo/WaltDisneyDiamondEditions Blu-Ray/Digital HD debuts]] comes packaged in a pink jewelry box. In the UK, ''Cinderella'' [=DVDs=] actually got pulled out of the Disney Vault for a few weeks of 2011, so families anticipating the Royal Wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton could share them with their daughters.



** Cinderella plans to wear a pink dress to the ball, but ends up wearing a different one. Although it's white in the film, it's coloured blue in the merchandise. This is hilarious when one thinks of the [[Disney/SleepingBeauty next Disney Princess]] - whose fairy godmothers had a war over whether her dress should be blue or pink. And the one who changes her dress from pink in this film is voiced by Verna Felton - who voices the fairy that wants to keep Aurora's dress pink.

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** Cinderella plans to wear a pink dress to the ball, but ends up wearing a different white one. Although it's shades of white in the film, it's coloured blue in the merchandise. This is hilarious when one thinks of the [[Disney/SleepingBeauty next Disney Princess]] - whose fairy godmothers had a war over whether her dress should be blue or pink. And the one who changes her dress from pink in this film is voiced by Verna Felton - who voices the fairy that wants to keep Aurora's dress pink.



* IronWoobie: Cinderella. Even with all the abuse and hate her stepmother put her through, be it by herself or through her daughters, she never lost hope that someday things would look up for her...at least not until the stepsisters destroy the dress she wanted to wear to the ball (and said dress was made from clothes belonging to ''her mother'', so it makes sense that she'd be upset).

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* IronWoobie: Cinderella. Even with all the abuse and hate her stepmother put her through, be it by herself or through her daughters, she never lost hope that someday things would look up for her... at least not until the stepsisters destroy the dress she wanted to wear to the ball (and said dress was made from clothes belonging to ''her mother'', so it makes sense that she'd be upset).



* MoralEventHorizon: Lady Tremaine starts to cross it when she locks Cinderella in her room, knowing full well that she's the girl the prince loves. What pushes her definitively over the line is the moment when she trips the Grand Duke and breaks the slipper out of sheer spite. ''Then'' she does nothing more than smirk at the Grand Duke's panic and Cinderella's dashed hopes -- until Cinderella pulls out the other glass slipper. [[KarmaHoudini She does not suffer any consequences for this in the film itself]], although [[FridgeHorror she DID directly interfere with a royal decree by the King, and we've seen what he's capable of when it comes to perceived betrayal.]] (Notice that her last appearance in the film is the OhCrap face she makes at Cinderella's trump card.)

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* MoralEventHorizon: You can understand Lady Tremaine starts wanting her own daughters to cross it come first, and even keeping the more beautiful Cinderella from going to the ball because she would outshine the Sisters. But when she actually locks Cinderella in the tower even though her room, knowing full well that she's own daughters can't ''possibly'' fit the girl slipper, it's nothing but pure spite, even though her step-daughter marrying the prince loves. What pushes her definitively over the line is the moment when she trips the Grand Duke and breaks would be a fine way to enter high society. Breaking the slipper out of sheer spite. ''Then'' she does nothing more than smirk at the Grand Duke's panic and Cinderella's dashed hopes -- until Cinderella pulls out the other glass slipper. [[KarmaHoudini She does not suffer any consequences for this in the film itself]], although [[FridgeHorror she DID directly interfere with a royal decree is just icing on her ruthless cake by the King, and we've seen what he's capable of when it comes to perceived betrayal.]] (Notice that her last appearance in the film is the OhCrap face she makes at Cinderella's trump card.)point.



** Drizella and Anastasia, especially the latter.

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** Drizella and Anastasia, especially Anastasia. Anastasia's cuteness increases subtly in the latter. sequels with her HeelFaceTurn.



* ValuesDissonance: [[TextileWorkIsFeminine "Leave the sewing to the women".]] What's weird is that it's a ''female'' mouse who says this after Jaq happily ''volunteers'' to do the sewing! Then some male mice are clearly shown sewing later on anyway, making the line even weirder. The only way this scene makes sense is an excuse to keep Jaq away from the sewing, if they thought he was particularly bad at it. Given his lack of stealth and sometimes carelessness (as seen during the sewing scene where he and Gus nearly cut off another mouse's tail), it's a reasonable fear.

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* ValuesDissonance: [[TextileWorkIsFeminine "Leave the sewing to the women".]] What's weird is that it's a ''female'' ''lady'' mouse who says this after Jaq happily ''volunteers'' to do the sewing! Then some male mice are clearly shown sewing later on anyway, making the line even weirder. The only way this scene line can makes sense is an excuse to keep Jaq away from if the sewing, if they lady mice thought he was particularly the men would be bad at it. Given his lack of stealth and sometimes carelessness (as seen during the sewing scene where he and Gus nearly cut off another mouse's tail), it's a reasonable fear.



** '''Instead''' Upon hearing that the Duke is coming with the other slipper, Cinderella immediately zones out, drops a tray full of tea, and then hands the stepsisters' laundry back to them and softly dances back upstairs to get ready for her new life, singing "So This Is Love." It only takes 3 seconds of watching for Lady Tremaine to realize that Cinderella was the mystery girl at the ball, and, still determined to keep Cinderella from a happy life, she follows her upstairs and locks her in her room, forcing the mice to retrieve the key in the film's climax.

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** '''Instead''' Upon hearing that the Duke is coming with the other slipper, Cinderella immediately zones out, drops a tray full of tea, and then hands the stepsisters' laundry back to them and softly dances back upstairs to get ready for her new life, singing "So This Is Love." It only takes 3 seconds of watching musing for Lady Tremaine to realize that Cinderella was the mystery girl at the ball, and, still determined to keep Cinderella from a happy life, and wicked as ever, she follows her upstairs and locks her in her room, forcing the mice to retrieve the key in the film's climax.



** She also grabs it earlier when she puts on her dress that the mice and birds made for her and runs downstairs where Lady Tremaine and her stepsisters are about to leave.
** '''You'd Expect''' After living with them since childhood, Cinderella is aware enough of what {{Jerkass}}es they are that even with all her chores done, they'd find some reason to keep her from going to the ball, so instead waits upstairs and heads to the ball by herself in secret, thus ensuring they don't interfere and giving her a chance to sneak back afterwards.
** '''Instead''' Cinderella comes rushing down to meet her horrible family and starts gushing about her dress and asking them if they like it. Lady Tremaine then goads Anastasia and Drizella to tear her dress to pieces, while Cinderella actually seems [[GenreBlindness shocked]] at this and tearfully begs them to stop. The sisters ruin her dress, all of them leave and Cinderella runs outside to cry, which is when the Fairy Godmother intervenes.
1st Feb '17 9:01:58 PM Angeldeb82
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** '''You'd Expect''' After living with them since childhood, Cinderella is aware enough of what [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]] they are that even with all her chores done, they'd find some reason to keep her from going to the ball, so instead waits upstairs and heads to the ball by herself in secret, thus ensuring they don't interfere and giving her a chance to sneak back afterwards.
** '''Instead''' Cinderella comes rushing down to meet her horrible family and starts gushing about her dress and asking them if they like it. Lady Tremaine then goads Anastasia and Drizella to tear her dress to pieces, while Cinderella actually seems [[GenreBlind shocked]] at this and tearfully begs them to stop. The sisters ruin her dress, all of them leave and Cinderella runs outside to cry, which is when the Fairy Godmother intervenes.

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** '''You'd Expect''' After living with them since childhood, Cinderella is aware enough of what [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]] {{Jerkass}}es they are that even with all her chores done, they'd find some reason to keep her from going to the ball, so instead waits upstairs and heads to the ball by herself in secret, thus ensuring they don't interfere and giving her a chance to sneak back afterwards.
** '''Instead''' Cinderella comes rushing down to meet her horrible family and starts gushing about her dress and asking them if they like it. Lady Tremaine then goads Anastasia and Drizella to tear her dress to pieces, while Cinderella actually seems [[GenreBlind [[GenreBlindness shocked]] at this and tearfully begs them to stop. The sisters ruin her dress, all of them leave and Cinderella runs outside to cry, which is when the Fairy Godmother intervenes.



* OlderThanYouThink: As progressive as the 1997 script appears to be, in reality it is closer to the 1950's script than it would like to admit.


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* OlderThanTheyThink: As progressive as the 1997 script appears to be, in reality it is closer to the 1950's script than it would like to admit.
10th Jan '17 8:07:39 PM rememberthehood1941
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* ValuesDissonance: [[TextileWorkIsFeminine "Leave the sewing to the women".]] What's weird is that it's a ''female'' mouse who says this after Jaq happily ''volunteers'' to do the sewing! Then some male mice are clearly shown sewing later on anyway, making the line even weirder. The only way this scene makes sense is an excuse to keep Jaq away from the sewing, if they thought he was particularly bad at it. Given his lack of stealth, it's a reasonable fear.

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* ValuesDissonance: [[TextileWorkIsFeminine "Leave the sewing to the women".]] What's weird is that it's a ''female'' mouse who says this after Jaq happily ''volunteers'' to do the sewing! Then some male mice are clearly shown sewing later on anyway, making the line even weirder. The only way this scene makes sense is an excuse to keep Jaq away from the sewing, if they thought he was particularly bad at it. Given his lack of stealth, stealth and sometimes carelessness (as seen during the sewing scene where he and Gus nearly cut off another mouse's tail), it's a reasonable fear.
9th Dec '16 9:02:28 PM CJCroen1393
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* IronWoobie: Cinderella. Even with all the abuse and hate her stepmother put her through, be it by herself or through her daughters, she never lost hope that someday things would look up for her...at least not until the stepsisters destroy the dress she wanted to wear to the ball (and said dress was made from clothes belonging to ''her mother'', so it makes sense that she'd be upset).
19th Nov '16 6:39:26 AM SatoshiBakura
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* EndingFatigue: Cinderella being locked in her room and the mice having to rescue her...ironically it is partially a reference to the Grimm's version (with the animals having to expose the stepmother's tricks)..though it is undeniably just an excuse to give the mice even more screen-time. According to ''The Mouse Under Glass'', to make the scene even weirder, it actually came from an attempt to make Cinderella more proactive. Walt actually hired a writer named Maurice Rapf in order to help the film come off as "progressive." He suggested a scene in which one day, "they're ordering her around and she throws the stuff back at them. She revolts, so they lock her up in the attic." This idea was clearly used for the ending.
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