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* SpiritualPredecessor: To its non-furry successor, ''VideoGame/ChildrenOfADeadEarth'' for being a hard SF setting that deals with the social and political consequences of interplanetary warfare.
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* IKnewIt: Toki being lesbian or at least bisexual was already a common joke in the ''Albedo'' fandom since the 80s, due of her LovableSexManiac tendences, and it was not until 2016 when Gallacci finally confirmed this.
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** '''Teka Ardehad''': She appears in a way completely ''out of the blue'' for both Erma and the readers, not only because she appears for the first time in the [[spoiler:DistantFinale as an adult woman]] but also because [[spoiler:she's Erma's [[CloningBlues cloned daughter]] without any explanation on how the hell the Ardehads got [[spoiler:Erma's DNA]], other than they need an heir since they can't bear one. This is even more egregious because Erma never bothers to ask Teka about that and [[DullSurprise she doesn't look surprised at all after finding out the truth]] and she even believes her story, something even more egregious if you take into account she is supposed to be a professional soldier '''first''' and a person second, and she was supposed to be working as a spy in an enemy planet, and Teka almost blows out her cover. Even worse she appears in the regular continuity [[spoiler:as a kid]] meaning [[spoiler:she and Erma will not ever meet until decades later]]. According with WordOfGod in a recent statement in his [=FurAffinity=]'s page, [[spoiler: The Net was the one who brought out Erma's DNA to the Ardehads when Erma was a teen, off-screen]].

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** '''Teka Ardehad''': She appears in a way completely ''out of the blue'' for both Erma and the readers, not only because she appears for the first time in the [[spoiler:DistantFinale as an adult woman]] but also because [[spoiler:she's Erma's [[CloningBlues cloned daughter]] daughter without any explanation on how the hell the Ardehads got [[spoiler:Erma's DNA]], other than they need an heir since they can't bear one. This is even more egregious because Erma never bothers to ask Teka about that and [[DullSurprise she doesn't look surprised at all after finding out the truth]] and she even believes her story, something even more egregious if you take into account she is supposed to be a professional soldier '''first''' and a person second, and she was supposed to be working as a spy in an enemy planet, and Teka almost blows out her cover. Even worse she appears in the regular continuity [[spoiler:as a kid]] meaning [[spoiler:she and Erma will not ever meet until decades later]]. According with WordOfGod in a recent statement in his [=FurAffinity=]'s page, [[spoiler: The Net was the one who brought out Erma's DNA to the Ardehads when Erma was a teen, off-screen]].
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** This is even referenced as a ShoutOut in the somewhat obscure Creator/{{Konami}} game, ''VideoGame/{{Nightshade}}'': If you check out the crowbar at the beginning of the game, [[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/luisedgarf/NightshadeU-0_zps37f1f074.png a very odd romantic message written by Toki (who doesn't appear in that game) addressed to Erma (who she neither appears in the game either) appears]]. This is justified as the game was scripted by the Australian writer Paul Kidd, who worked with Gallacci in some of his stories and also in ''Albedo''.

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** This is even referenced as a ShoutOut in the somewhat obscure Creator/{{Konami}} game, ''VideoGame/{{Nightshade}}'': ''VideoGame/Nightshade1992'': If you check out the crowbar at the beginning of the game, [[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/luisedgarf/NightshadeU-0_zps37f1f074.png a very odd romantic message written by Toki (who doesn't appear in that game) addressed to Erma (who she neither appears in the game either) appears]]. This is justified as the game was scripted by the Australian writer Paul Kidd, who worked with Gallacci in some of his stories and also in ''Albedo''.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: ''Albedo'' is not the first FurryComic dealing with mature themes: That privilege goes for both ''ComicBook/FritzTheCat'' (1965) and ''ComicBook/OmahaTheCatDancer'' (1978), this is especially relevant for the latter, as Erma is based in Omaha, at least design-wise, according with WordOfGod.
* PlotHole:
** One of the most notorious plot holes of all the story is regarding Teka Ardehad, as her ''own existence'' has ''no sense'' in the regular continuity: [[spoiler:she was cloned from Erma's DNA, but we never see either a member of the House Ardehad (both visually or at least explained in [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary materials or via Gallacci himself)]]]] nor we ever see Erma to travel to the [[spoiler:Kawhateena system to meet someone from that family or at least traveled to that planet so they could get her DNA from anything she could had touched there]], as the only planets, besides her own homeworld, she has visited in-story are Danet, Ekosiak and Ish-tako so far. [[spoiler:While we see a younger Teka in the regular continuity at SD 201, it's never explained in-universe this situation and even when we see her "again" (chronologically speaking, in-universe) at SD 214 in the DistantFinale, she never bothers to explains her origins other than being a clone and being a member of her planet's royalty]]. See below for details.
** Another plot hole is regarding [[spoiler:from which member of the Felna family Kala Tanaia from ''Birthright'' descends from and why Erma did it: By WordOfGod, cloning is supposely illegal in the setting and it's never explained why someone like Erma, who always tries to abide with the law, would reach that extreme of start breaking laws with the purpose of having another family]].

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* OlderThanTheyThink: ''Albedo'' is not the first FurryComic UsefulNotes/{{Furry|Fandom}} Comic dealing with mature themes: That privilege goes for both ''ComicBook/FritzTheCat'' (1965) and ''ComicBook/OmahaTheCatDancer'' (1978), this is especially relevant for the latter, as Erma is based in Omaha, at least design-wise, according with WordOfGod.
* PlotHole:
** One of the most notorious plot holes of all the story is regarding Teka Ardehad, as her ''own existence'' has ''no sense'' in the regular continuity: [[spoiler:she was cloned from Erma's DNA, but we never see either a member of the House Ardehad (both visually or at least explained in [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary materials or via Gallacci himself)]]]] nor we ever see Erma to travel to the [[spoiler:Kawhateena system to meet someone from that family or at least traveled to that planet so they could get her DNA from anything she could had touched there]], as the only planets, besides her own homeworld, she has visited in-story are Danet, Ekosiak and Ish-tako so far. [[spoiler:While we see a younger Teka in the regular continuity at SD 201, it's never explained in-universe this situation and even when we see her "again" (chronologically speaking, in-universe) at SD 214 in the DistantFinale, she never bothers to explains her origins other than being a clone and being a member of her planet's royalty]]. See below for details.
** Another plot hole is regarding [[spoiler:from which member of the Felna family Kala Tanaia from ''Birthright'' descends from and why Erma did it: By WordOfGod, cloning is supposely illegal in the setting and it's never explained why someone like Erma, who always tries to abide with the law, would reach that extreme of start breaking laws with the purpose of having another family]].
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** A more straight example would be with ''LightNovel/{{Overlord}}'', since the comic shares the same name with Albedo, one of the main characters of the novel and the animated adaptations.

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** A more straight example would be with ''LightNovel/{{Overlord}}'', ''Literature/Overlord2010'', since the comic shares the same name with Albedo, one of the main characters of the novel and the animated adaptations.
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** FlyingBrick: The name for the EDF's aerodynes, since these are almost literally flying metal bricks.
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** Also, the "Erma with a crowbar" meme is a very popular one, after an incident when a perverted fan asked the author to draw a pin-up of Erma [[ADateWithRosiePalms pleasuring herself]] with a crowbar, and refusing to do so. Oddly enough, he ''did'' some pics with Erma naked with a crowbar, but not in the way intended by that fan, at least '''not''' in a sexual way.[[note]]In reality, what really happened is something more complex: By WordOfGod, the whole meme came out when some friends of the author decided to joke with him and one of them decided to imitate the stereotypical voice of a perverted nerd asking for this. For some reason, the whole situation became an urban legend inside the UsefulNotes/FurryFandom due to the lack of reliable sources in the 80s and 90s and many claimed that event happened.[[/note]] This meme even trascended beyond the furry fandom in a way.[[note]]See LesYay above.[[/note]] This also ovelaps with NeverLiveItDown, as the author himself encourages this and his fans loves to tease him with that meme.

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** Also, the "Erma with a crowbar" meme is a very popular one, after an incident when a perverted fan asked the author to draw a pin-up of Erma [[ADateWithRosiePalms pleasuring herself]] herself with a crowbar, and refusing to do so. Oddly enough, he ''did'' some pics with Erma naked with a crowbar, but not in the way intended by that fan, at least '''not''' in a sexual way.[[note]]In reality, what really happened is something more complex: By WordOfGod, the whole meme came out when some friends of the author decided to joke with him and one of them decided to imitate the stereotypical voice of a perverted nerd asking for this. For some reason, the whole situation became an urban legend inside the UsefulNotes/FurryFandom due to the lack of reliable sources in the 80s and 90s and many claimed that event happened.[[/note]] This meme even trascended beyond the furry fandom in a way.[[note]]See LesYay above.[[/note]] This also ovelaps with NeverLiveItDown, as the author himself encourages this and his fans loves to tease him with that meme.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The [[{{Precursors}} Creators]] are subject of this: Does the Creators designed the entire civilization just as a possible misguided attempt of creating life and as a social experiment just to watch the final results from a safe distance, or the ''real reasons'' for designing new lifeforms hides an even more ''darker purpose''? Even the whole story gives many clues regarding both theories and the closest answer could be [[spoiler:a mix of both, possibly impliying the whole project could had been hijacked for another different directive by different persons using The Net to trying to help Erma and the rest of the chosen ones, while having their own plans. What kind of plans they have in mind, and what kind of role Erma has on all this is still unknown to this date]].

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The [[{{Precursors}} Creators]] are subject of this: Does the Creators designed the entire civilization just as a possible misguided attempt of creating life and as a social experiment just to watch the final results from a safe distance, or the ''real reasons'' for designing new lifeforms hides an even more ''darker purpose''? Even the whole story gives many clues regarding both theories and the closest answer could be [[spoiler:a mix of both, possibly impliying implying the whole project could had been hijacked for another different directive by different persons using The Net to trying to help Erma and the rest of the chosen ones, while having their own plans. What kind of plans they have in mind, and what kind of role Erma has on all this is still unknown to this date]].



* WhatAnIdiot: Many characters took many incredibly stupid decisions that trigger their own downfall by ignoring many of the warnings that are made to them much later in the story:
** Erma is warned by the Net that [[spoiler:Tavas was the one responsable (at least partly) for sending her to Ekosiak in order to get his revenge against her]]. Also, her younger brother Tasak [[spoiler:is in cahoots with him, thanks to having a grudge against her and her parents for [[TheUnfavorite being the unfavorite in the family]], and partly because Tavas and his goons managed to hack the Net in order to allow him in the EDF, while the Net itself tried to prevent him to do so]].
*** '''You'd Expect:''' That Erma, after returning to Dornthant, and after receiving the full control of the local military forces by her aunt, a member of the goverment, she could have gone to arrest both [[spoiler:Tavas and Tasak, or at least stop the latter from doing anything else]]. This is especially egregious considering she had a ''full whole month'' in order to do so between her return and [[spoiler:the attack on the planet by the ILR]].
*** '''Instead:''' Erma does '''nothing''' during the month between her return and the [[spoiler:attack]], allowing enough time for [[spoiler:Tavas and Tasak]] to carry out their plans unopposed.
*** '''What Ends Up Happening:''' The entire planet [[spoiler:went to hell a month later thanks to the ILR attack, Tavas and his cronies take control of the local goverment, Alfon is killed in an accident after Tavas disabled the Net in a desperate gamble to prevent Erma to stop him, her family goes missing, Tasak is betrayed by his own boss and Erma is exiled by both Tavas and the EDF]].
** A really egregious one happens at the beginning of the second arc involving the House Ardehad, as Teka's parents decided to tell both to Teka and the rest of members of the House about the fact that [[spoiler:Teka is a clone of someone else, and not their biological daughter]].
*** '''You'd Expect:''' They could had told Teka the truth in private, while the rest of the House Ardehad could had received another version of the events in order to protect her.
*** '''Instead:''' They reveal the truth about Teka's origin to her and the rest of the clan, causing anger and aggravation among the members of the entire House Ardehad.
*** '''What Ends Up Happening:''' Teka [[spoiler:is targeted for murder from someone inside the clan, and while the attempt failed, one of her friends got injured]].
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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** The DistantFinale was probably created with the sole purpose of solving a potential PlotHole in the case the comic could have finished with the first arc and taking into account what happened (at the time) with its sequel ''Birthright'': [[spoiler:In ''Birthright'', Kala turns out to be Erma's rightful descendant, except it's never explained if she descends straight from Erma's bloodline,[[note]]Taking into account Erma was cloned and she cloned herself.[[/note]] from Teka's bloodline[[note]]Who is also a clone from Erma and she also had descendants by herself.[[/note]] or from both Rojigo or his grandfathers' bloodline.[[note]]Assuming they lived by themselves until dying from natural causes and weren't killed along the way by Tavas's men or EDF and, at least in the case of Erma's parents Eda and Kanoc, being able to still produce offspring by themselves. Keep in mind neither Eda nor Kanoc aren't too old because they married too young.[[/note]] Since the fates of Rojigo, Tasak, Eda and Kanoc are still unresolved and the end of the DistantFinale explains that Erma has cloned offsprings besides Teka]], it's very possible Gallacci wanted at least give a pausible explanation why [[spoiler:Kala is Erma's descendant]] even if this creates ''another'' PlotHole. See below for details.
** ''TabletopGame/AlbedoCombatPatrol164'' will try to stay true to the essence of the comic, without adding or removing elements or trying to demonize and/or idolize either side of the conflict, which was one of the many things that alienated some fans and Gallacci himself from the ''Platinum Catalyst'' RPG game.
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* EsotericHappyEnding: If you take into account the DistantFinale as the definitive ending of Erma Felna's saga, [[spoiler:Erma managed somehow in the past to stop the war, but with a very steep price for her, as she lose her family, her boyfriend and possibly anything dear for her. The only thing that prevent the DistantFinale to becoming a complete DownerEnding is the fact at least Erma found Teka, her cloned daughter, along the way and she cloned herself just to create another family, so it wasn't a complete loss for her anyways]]. The worst part came with the fact, by WordOfGod's own words, ''another'' war broke out between the ILR and the EDF, possibly after Erma's generation, except this time it was [[UpToEleven ever worse than the previous two wars]], because both sides used everything from nuclear weapons to ''biological weapons'', [[MutuallyAssuredDestruction completely destroying each other entirely, colapsing their entire civilization]] and Erma's sacrifices turned out to be AllForNothing. [[note]]One could argue the whole point of the story, at least when the second story arc begins, has less to do with Erma trying to win a war and more with Erma trying to ''survive'' the war.[[/note]]

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* EsotericHappyEnding: If you take into account the DistantFinale as the definitive ending of Erma Felna's saga, [[spoiler:Erma managed somehow in the past to stop the war, but with a very steep price for her, as she lose her family, her boyfriend and possibly anything dear for her. The only thing that prevent the DistantFinale to becoming a complete DownerEnding is the fact at least Erma found Teka, her cloned daughter, along the way and she cloned herself just to create another family, so it wasn't a complete loss for her anyways]]. The worst part came with the fact, by WordOfGod's own words, ''another'' war broke out between the ILR and the EDF, possibly after Erma's generation, except this time it was [[UpToEleven ever worse than the previous two wars]], wars, because both sides used everything from nuclear weapons to ''biological weapons'', [[MutuallyAssuredDestruction completely destroying each other entirely, colapsing their entire civilization]] and Erma's sacrifices turned out to be AllForNothing. [[note]]One could argue the whole point of the story, at least when the second story arc begins, has less to do with Erma trying to win a war and more with Erma trying to ''survive'' the war.[[/note]]



* TheWoobie: While not as bad like [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion the Ikari family]] or [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire the House Stark]], the Felnas are possibly one of the most screwed-up families in fiction, since they are basically the main victims of many of the machinations from all the sides of the conflict: Kanoc, the patriarch, got tortured to the point of madness by the ILR while wife Eda has to endure the later's maniatic outbreaks, and trying to [[SilkHidingSteel keep a straight face]]. Their sons suffers [[UpToEleven even more than their parents]]: Tasak, the younger one, is TheUnfavorite for everyone else, including even [[MasterComputer The Net]] and he is victim of [[spoiler:Tavas's political machinations, becoming the accomplice of Tavas's FalseFlagOperation plan of letting the ILR [[OrbitalBombardment bombing his homeworld to hell]], causing his entire family being separated, possibly for good, and driving him to madness]]. The titular heroine, for obvious reasons, receives the most painful blows: Erma got shot during the Battle of Derzon, she's later KickedUpstairs to another planet, due to the EDF's StayInTheKitchen-of sorts policy. She [[spoiler:gets pregnant later and her son was born prematurely]] due to a serious unintentional MindRape from another [[spoiler:[[PsychicPowers Talent]]]]. When the things were going smooth for her and her boyfriend, [[spoiler:[[WhamEpisode her homeland got bombed, her boyfriend got killed and losing contact with her whole family and son, possibly permanently]]]]. Even Erma's own life begun in pain when [[spoiler:a terrorist attack striked in her homeland and she was also born prematurely due of her mother Eda's shock.]] The word "tragedy" is inadequate to describe everything what happened to them.

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* TheWoobie: While not as bad like [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion the Ikari family]] or [[Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire the House Stark]], the Felnas are possibly one of the most screwed-up families in fiction, since they are basically the main victims of many of the machinations from all the sides of the conflict: Kanoc, the patriarch, got tortured to the point of madness by the ILR while wife Eda has to endure the later's maniatic outbreaks, and trying to [[SilkHidingSteel keep a straight face]]. Their sons suffers [[UpToEleven even more than their parents]]: parents: Tasak, the younger one, is TheUnfavorite for everyone else, including even [[MasterComputer The Net]] and he is victim of [[spoiler:Tavas's political machinations, becoming the accomplice of Tavas's FalseFlagOperation plan of letting the ILR [[OrbitalBombardment bombing his homeworld to hell]], causing his entire family being separated, possibly for good, and driving him to madness]]. The titular heroine, for obvious reasons, receives the most painful blows: Erma got shot during the Battle of Derzon, she's later KickedUpstairs to another planet, due to the EDF's StayInTheKitchen-of sorts policy. She [[spoiler:gets pregnant later and her son was born prematurely]] due to a serious unintentional MindRape from another [[spoiler:[[PsychicPowers Talent]]]]. When the things were going smooth for her and her boyfriend, [[spoiler:[[WhamEpisode her homeland got bombed, her boyfriend got killed and losing contact with her whole family and son, possibly permanently]]]]. Even Erma's own life begun in pain when [[spoiler:a terrorist attack striked in her homeland and she was also born prematurely due of her mother Eda's shock.]] The word "tragedy" is inadequate to describe everything what happened to them.
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Surprisingly subverted between Erma and Alfon, despite Erma only knew about Alfon via Toki, other than both being from the same homeland and [[spoiler:having hot sex in the beach in the planet Ish-tako for one night, causing Erma to become pregnant with his baby]], partly because Alfon being a ''much better'' option for Erma than [[BastardBoyfriend Tavas]] after they decide to become a couple, even if Erma has very personal reasons for not hooking up with another man after her experience with Tavas, and partly because [[spoiler:Alfon's death traumatized Erma ''a lot'']]. It helps a lot the fact Alfon ''already'' knew Erma previously, but he decided not doing anything because Erma was dating Tavas previously, [[AllThereInTheManual according with Gallacci in a FAQ]].

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Surprisingly subverted between Erma and Alfon, despite Erma only knew about Alfon via Toki, other than both being from the same homeland and [[spoiler:having hot sex in the beach in the planet Ish-tako for one night, causing Erma to become pregnant with his baby]], partly because Alfon being a ''much better'' option for Erma than [[BastardBoyfriend Tavas]] Tavas after they decide to become a couple, even if Erma has very personal reasons for not hooking up with another man after her experience with Tavas, and partly because [[spoiler:Alfon's death traumatized Erma ''a lot'']]. It helps a lot the fact Alfon ''already'' knew Erma previously, but he decided not doing anything because Erma was dating Tavas previously, [[AllThereInTheManual according with Gallacci in a FAQ]].
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** In Gallacci's [=FurAffinity=]'s page, Tavas receives the [[SarcasmMode charitable]] nickname of ''[[BastardBoyfriend Former Boyfriend McAsshole]]''.

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** In Gallacci's [=FurAffinity=]'s page, Tavas receives the [[SarcasmMode charitable]] nickname of ''[[BastardBoyfriend Former ''Former Boyfriend McAsshole]]''.McAsshole''.
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** The whole scene when Capt. Arrat punches the corrupt EDF officer right in his face could have been a even much powerful scene if that officer didn't look ''[[UncannyValley too cartoony]]'' and the whole punch scene didn't look like Arrat was punching a small rag doll instead.

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** The whole scene when Capt. Arrat punches the corrupt EDF officer right in his face could have been a even much powerful scene if that officer didn't look ''[[UncannyValley too cartoony]]'' ''too cartoony'' and the whole punch scene didn't look like Arrat was punching a small rag doll instead.
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** Basically, ''Albedo'' is an English, furry adaptation of Creator/YoshikiTanaka's ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes'', with a very similar premise. Curiously enough, the comic predates the original novels by one year (''Albedo'' was published in 1983, while [=LOGH=] was published in 1982, and that without going the original prototype of the idea was published in 1978 in a fanzine) and the well-known anime adaptation by six years (1988) or thirty-five years for the ''Die Neue These'' reboot (2018).

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** Basically, ''Albedo'' is an English, furry adaptation of Creator/YoshikiTanaka's ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes'', ''Literature/LegendOfTheGalacticHeroes'', with a very similar premise. Curiously enough, the comic predates the original novels by one year (''Albedo'' was published in 1983, while [=LOGH=] was published in 1982, and that without going the original prototype of the idea was published in 1978 in a fanzine) and the well-known anime adaptation by six years (1988) or thirty-five years for the ''Die Neue These'' reboot (2018).

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Surprisingly subverted between Erma and Alfon, despite Erma only knew about Alfon via Toki, other than both being from the same homeland and [[spoiler:having hot sex in the beach in the planet Ish-tako for one night, causing Erma to become pregnant with his baby]], partly because Alfon being a ''much better'' option for Erma than [[BastardBoyfriend Tavas]] after they decide to become a couple, even if Erma has very personal reasons for not hooking up with another man after her experience with Tavas, and partly because [[spoiler:Alfon's death traumatized Erma ''a lot'']]. It helps a lot the fact Alfon ''already'' knew Erma previously, but he decided not doing anything because Erma was dating Tavas previously, [[AllThereInTheManual according with Gallacci in a FAQ]].



* StrangledByTheRedString: Surprisingly subverted between Erma and Alfon, despite Erma only knew about Alfon via Toki, other than both being from the same homeland and [[spoiler:having hot sex in the beach in the planet Ish-tako for one night, causing Erma to become pregnant with his baby]], partly because Alfon being a ''much better'' option for Erma than [[BastardBoyfriend Tavas]] after they decide to become a couple, even if Erma has very personal reasons for not hooking up with another man after her experience with Tavas, and partly because [[spoiler:Alfon's death traumatized Erma ''a lot'']]. It helps a lot the fact Alfon ''already'' knew Erma previously, but he decided not doing anything because Erma was dating Tavas previously, [[AllThereInTheManual according with Gallacci in a FAQ]].

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* SpiritualAdaptation: Basically, ''Albedo'' is an English, furry adaptation of Creator/YoshikiTanaka's ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes'', with a very similar premise. Curiously enough, the comic predates the original novels by one year (''Albedo'' was published in 1983, while [=LOGH=] was published in 1982, and that without going the original prototype of the idea was published in 1978 in a fanzine) and the well-known anime adaptation by six years (1988) or thirty-five years for the ''Die Neue These'' reboot (2018).

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Basically, ''Albedo'' is an English, furry adaptation of Creator/YoshikiTanaka's ''Anime/LegendOfGalacticHeroes'', with a very similar premise. Curiously enough, the comic predates the original novels by one year (''Albedo'' was published in 1983, while [=LOGH=] was published in 1982, and that without going the original prototype of the idea was published in 1978 in a fanzine) and the well-known anime adaptation by six years (1988) or thirty-five years for the ''Die Neue These'' reboot (2018).(2018).
** Likewise, the comic could be a spiritual adaptation of the North Korean animated series ''Animation/SquirrelAndHedgehog'', since both franchises shares more or less the same premise, through ''Squirrel and Hedgehog'' takes place in the modern era, rather than the future. Also, it also overlaps with SpiritualAntithesis, since ''Squirrel and Hedgehog'' is an unashamed propaganda piece for the North Korean regime, while ''Albedo'', on the other hand, denounce such kind of stuff, not to mention the comic is not afraid to even criticize the author's home country by using the ILR as an example of this.
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* EndingAversion: ''Twice'' for arc:
** The end of the first StoryArc could give ''[[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion The End Of Evangelion]]'' a run for its money regarding how controversial that ending was: Basically it was a [[spoiler:ShootTheShaggyDog for the sake of having a DownerEnding for the Felnas, since it basically implied Erma sacrified her family for [[TheNeedsOfTheMany the sake of saving the rest of her homeworld from complete destruction]]. Her award for doing that? Being '''exilied''' from her home by [[BastardBoyfriend the person she once loved]] and also by the army and the country she swore to serve and protect, leaving her heartbroken and in tears]]. Originally, the first arc was planned as the definitive ending of the story, but after hearing the feedback from the fans, the author decided to continue the story.
** The second arc possibly planned to answer many of the unanswered questions from the previous arc, but the comic was CutShort before the arc went into its climax.
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** And the entire Battle of Derzon is ''too gruesomely similar'' to both the Russian takeover of Ukraine's Crimea and also the Russian invasion on the whole country at 2022, including instances of the invading forces (the ILR in the comic, and Russia in real life) causing amounts of deliberate damage on civilian infrastructure and also war crimes against the civilian population.
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* ClicheStorm: Zig-zagged: [[WordOfGod Gallacci]] tries his best to avoid many of the most known sci-fi cliches, being the story in the level 3 of MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness, and he completely ''discourage'' any attempt to include fantastic or unreal elements (like lasers, teleporting, etc), to the grade this has become into some kind of BerserkButton to him. Oddly enough, that doesn't prevent him to include [[spoiler:[[PsychicPowers Newtype-wannabes]] and galaxy-destroying weapons like the [[WaveMotionGun Matter Conversion Cannon]]]].

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* ClicheStorm: Zig-zagged: [[WordOfGod Gallacci]] tries his best to avoid many of the most known sci-fi cliches, being the story in the level 3 of MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness, and he completely ''discourage'' ''discourages'' any attempt to include fantastic or unreal elements (like lasers, teleporting, etc), to the grade this has become into some kind of BerserkButton to him. Oddly enough, that doesn't prevent him to include [[spoiler:[[PsychicPowers Newtype-wannabes]] and galaxy-destroying weapons like the [[WaveMotionGun Matter Conversion Cannon]]]].
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* FanNickname: In a meta-example of this, Gallacci is nicknamed by his fans as "The American Creator/ShirowMasamune" partly because both authors have a knack for creating dystopic futuristic stories with ''lots'' of [[ShownTheirWork interesting background details]] and ''lots'' of [[{{Fanservice}} beautiful girls]].
** The ILR is sometimes nicknamed as ''Nazi Bunnies'', ''Communist Bunnies'' or ''[[Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato Space]] Literature/WatershipDown UsefulNotes/WarsawPact'', [[CowboyBebopAtHisComputer despite the ideology of the ILR has nothing to do with communism]].
** The EDF is also nicknamed as "Furry Space NATO", despite the EDF has more things in common with the Warsaw Pact than the NATO.
** Dr. Elaki Kalahahaii is sometimes nicknamed as ''Dr. K'' because [[TheUnpronounceable many fans cannot pronounce her name correctly]]. Even the author himself has used that nickname too.
** Ipcha Tankannahai also got nicknamed as ''Tank'' for the same reasons as above.
** In Gallacci's [=FurAffinity=]'s page, Tavas receives the [[SarcasmMode charitable]] nickname of ''[[BastardBoyfriend Former Boyfriend McAsshole]]''.
** Captain Barlahan is nicknamed as "The Good Captain" because he is quite a NiceGuy, along Tankannahai, compared with the rest of the ILR military forces.
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** The spaceships in the ''Albedo'' universe are infamous between the fandom for disturbingly resembling like giant ''dildos''. Cue to 2021, when Jeff Bezos' ''Blue Origin'' not only resemble ''Albedo''s ships, except painted white rather than black, but it also infamous for resembling a dildo as well.

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** The spaceships in the ''Albedo'' universe are infamous between the fandom for disturbingly resembling like giant ''dildos''. Cue to 2021, when Jeff Bezos' ''Blue Origin'' ''[[https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/16/business/blue-origin-spacex-nasa-suit-scn/index.html Blue Origin]]'' rocket not only resemble ''Albedo''s those ships, except painted white rather than black, but it also infamous for resembling a dildo as well.
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** The spaceships in the ''Albedo'' universe are infamous between the fandom for disturbingly resembling like giant ''dildos''. Cue to 2021, when Jeff Bezos' ''Blue Origin'' not only resemble ''Albedo''s ships, except painted white rather than black, but it also infamous for resembling a dildo as well.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped:
** '''[[WarIsHell WAR IS HELL]]''': No matter for whatever reason you're fighting for, any war affects everyone involved, soldier, civilians and politicians alike.
** While the fact is barely explored at its fullest, but taking into account what we know about the topic and judging how its depicted in the ''[[AllThereInTheManual Refractions]]'' anthology: [[spoiler:Mankind trying to play the role of {{God}} towards their fellow "inferior" species is not probably a very good idea at all, it's not ethical, and will possibly end backfiring against the humans sooner or later]].
** Any organization can be as good or bad as their members can be. That means neither the ILR, the antagonic force of the comic, is completely evil nor the EDF is completely good, as shown in a very graphic way during the last legs of the first arc and during the second one.
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** Regarding the ILR, the whole message is capitalism is flawed, if not ''outright evil'', albeit this is later subverted, as the EDF turns to be NotSoDifferent, despite being communists, [[spoiler:on the grounds the EDF are prepared to even carrying out genocide if that means eliminate the ILR once for all by using the [[WaveMotionGun Matter Conversion Cannon]]]].

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** Regarding the ILR, the whole message is capitalism is flawed, if not ''outright evil'', albeit this is later subverted, as the EDF turns to be NotSoDifferent, MirroringFactions, despite being communists, [[spoiler:on the grounds the EDF are prepared to even carrying out genocide if that means eliminate the ILR once for all by using the [[WaveMotionGun Matter Conversion Cannon]]]].
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* EsotericHappyEnding: If you take into account the DistantFinale as the definitive ending of Erma Felna's saga, [[spoiler:Erma managed somehow in the past to stop the war, but with a very steep price for her, as she lose her family, her boyfriend and possibly anything dear for her. The only thing that prevent the DistantFinale to becoming a complete DownerEnding is the fact at least Erma found Teka, her cloned daughter, along the way and she cloned herself just to create another family, so it wasn't a complete loss for her anyways]]. The worst part came with the fact, by WordOfGod's own words, ''another'' war broked out between the ILR and the EDF, very possible after Erma's generation, except this time it was [[UpToEleven ever worse than the previous two wars]], because both sides used from nuclear weapons to even ''biological weapons'', [[MutuallyAssuredDestruction completely destroying both sides entirely, colapsing their entire civilization]] and each sacrifice Erma did in the past went straight to the toilet. [[note]]One could argue the whole point of the story, at least when the second story arc begins, has less to do with Erma trying to win a war and more with Erma trying to ''survive'' the war.[[/note]]
* FanDislikedExplanation: A very downplayed example happens in a meta-way and used and played for both laughs and for [[TrollingCreator attacking the readers]]: Many fans complained how equine characters, like Itzak Arrat, can be able to manipulate objects with their hooves, since they don't have fingers, this is considered impausible by many fans. WordOfGod's explanation about this is that equine characters can handle objects, only that they do ''off-screen''. Obviously the fans weren't happy about that explanation, and Gallacci's answer is basically calling the fans ''idiots'' by not understanding the beauty of this "detail".

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* EsotericHappyEnding: If you take into account the DistantFinale as the definitive ending of Erma Felna's saga, [[spoiler:Erma managed somehow in the past to stop the war, but with a very steep price for her, as she lose her family, her boyfriend and possibly anything dear for her. The only thing that prevent the DistantFinale to becoming a complete DownerEnding is the fact at least Erma found Teka, her cloned daughter, along the way and she cloned herself just to create another family, so it wasn't a complete loss for her anyways]]. The worst part came with the fact, by WordOfGod's own words, ''another'' war broked broke out between the ILR and the EDF, very possible possibly after Erma's generation, except this time it was [[UpToEleven ever worse than the previous two wars]], because both sides used everything from nuclear weapons to even ''biological weapons'', [[MutuallyAssuredDestruction completely destroying both sides each other entirely, colapsing their entire civilization]] and each sacrifice Erma did in the past went straight Erma's sacrifices turned out to the toilet.be AllForNothing. [[note]]One could argue the whole point of the story, at least when the second story arc begins, has less to do with Erma trying to win a war and more with Erma trying to ''survive'' the war.[[/note]]
* FanDislikedExplanation: A very downplayed example happens in a meta-way and used and played for both laughs and for [[TrollingCreator attacking the readers]]: Many fans complained how equine characters, like Itzak Arrat, can be able to manipulate objects with their hooves, since they don't have fingers, this which is considered impausible by many fans. WordOfGod's explanation about this is that equine characters can handle objects, only that they do ''off-screen''. Obviously the fans weren't happy about that explanation, and Gallacci's answer is basically calling the fans ''idiots'' by not understanding the beauty of this "detail".

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* HarsherInHindsight: Basically, '''everything''' related with the [[EagleLand ILR]] (minus the genocide thing), especially after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the economic recession that hit the U.S. in the 2000s and UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror. Keep in mind the comic was published in the 80s and the author is a former member of the USAF, but that doesn't stop him to criticize many of the things he saw wrong about the United States, its armed forces and above all, about American society. This also became even more disturbing now that Donald Trump is currently the president of the U.S., something that Gallacci himself lampshaded. Even more harsher Trump became president thanks to the '''Republican''' Party, while the ILR is sometimes nicknamed as the ''Republicans'', by many members of the cast.
** Alfon Voga, who is Erma's boyfriend [[spoiler:dies during the ILR attack against his homeworld when Tavas disabled The Net]]. This is even more harsher if you take into account Erma is Gallacci's AuthorAvatar and the fact [[spoiler:Gallacci's wife died too, albeit she died due to cancer rather than in a "accident"]].

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Basically, '''everything''' related with the [[EagleLand ILR]] (minus the genocide thing), especially after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the economic recession that hit the U.S. in the 2000s and UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror. Keep in mind the comic was published in the 80s and the author is a former member of the USAF, but that doesn't stop him to criticize many of the things he saw wrong about the United States, its armed forces and above all, about American society. This also became even more disturbing now that Donald Trump when UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump is currently became the president of the U.S., something that Gallacci himself lampshaded. Even more harsher harsher, Trump became president thanks to the '''Republican''' Party, while the ILR is sometimes nicknamed as the ''Republicans'', by many members of the cast.
** Alfon Voga, who is Erma's boyfriend [[spoiler:dies during the ILR attack against his homeworld when Tavas disabled The Net]]. This is even more harsher if you take into account Erma is Gallacci's AuthorAvatar and the fact [[spoiler:Gallacci's wife died too, albeit she died due to cancer rather than in a "accident"]].
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* MagnificentBastard: Tavas Ikalik, '''REALLY BIG TIME''' and also overlaps with LoveToHate as well: Not only he managed to manipulate people all his way until he managed to become commander of the Dornthant's HomeGuard, he also managed to prevent Itzak's father Joseph to stop him by threating him to smear his name just like his son and he also [[spoiler:managed to destroy Erma's family and also Erma's life in a way she was never able to fully recover from it]].
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* HarsherInHindsight: Basically, '''everything''' related with the [[EagleLand ILR]] (minus the genocide thing), especially after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the economic recession that hit the U.S. in the 2000s and the WarOnTerror. Keep in mind the comic was published in the 80s and the author is a former member of the USAF, but that doesn't stop him to criticize many of the things he saw wrong about the United States, its armed forces and above all, about American society. This also became even more disturbing now that Donald Trump is currently the president of the U.S., something that Gallacci himself lampshaded. Even more harsher Trump became president thanks to the '''Republican''' Party, while the ILR is sometimes nicknamed as the ''Republicans'', by many members of the cast.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Basically, '''everything''' related with the [[EagleLand ILR]] (minus the genocide thing), especially after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the economic recession that hit the U.S. in the 2000s and the WarOnTerror.UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror. Keep in mind the comic was published in the 80s and the author is a former member of the USAF, but that doesn't stop him to criticize many of the things he saw wrong about the United States, its armed forces and above all, about American society. This also became even more disturbing now that Donald Trump is currently the president of the U.S., something that Gallacci himself lampshaded. Even more harsher Trump became president thanks to the '''Republican''' Party, while the ILR is sometimes nicknamed as the ''Republicans'', by many members of the cast.

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