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** ''Film/{{Doctor Strange|2016}}'': Kaecilius is a delusional psychopath, but his intentions are pure. He seeks to use Dormammu to rid the world of time and [[MortalityPhobia ultimately death]], a view he gained after his wife and son died. When confronting Strange about it he claims the end justify the means and reveals that [[spoiler:Strange's mentor the [[OldMaster Ancient One]] has been using energy from Dormammu's Dark Dimension to keep herself young for decades [[{{Hypocrite}} despite forbidding]] her students from tapping into that [[TheDarkArts power]]]]. This is what [[FaceHeelTurn caused]] Kaecilius to reject their teachings and serve Dormamu, [[spoiler: however his goals come back to bite him in the ass as gaining immortality is actually a FateWorseThanDeath]].

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** ''Film/{{Doctor Strange|2016}}'': Kaecilius is a delusional psychopath, but his intentions are pure. He seeks to use Dormammu to rid the world of time and [[MortalityPhobia ultimately death]], a view he gained after his wife and son died. When confronting Strange about it he claims the end justify the means and reveals that [[spoiler:Strange's mentor the [[OldMaster Ancient One]] has been using energy from Dormammu's Dark Dimension to keep herself young for decades [[{{Hypocrite}} despite forbidding]] her students from tapping into that [[TheDarkArts power]]]]. This is what [[FaceHeelTurn caused]] Kaecilius to reject their teachings [[spoiler:reject her teachings]] and serve Dormamu, [[spoiler: however his goals come back to bite him in the ass as gaining immortality is actually a FateWorseThanDeath]].
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** ''Film/{{Doctor Strange|2016}}'': Kaecilius is a delusional psychopath, but his intentions are pure. He seeks to use Dormammu to rid the world of time and [[MortalityPhobia ultimately death]], a view he gained after his wife and son died. When confronting Strange about it he claims the end justify the means and reveals that Strange's mentor the [[OldMaster Ancient One]] has been using energy from Dormammu's Dark Dimension to keep herself young for decades [[{{Hypocrite}} despite forbidding]] her students from tapping into that [[TheDarkArts power]]. This is what [[FaceHeelTurn caused]] Kaecilius to reject her teachings and serve Dormamu, [[spoiler: however his goals come back to bite him in the ass as gaining immortality is actually a FateWorseThanDeath]].

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** ''Film/{{Doctor Strange|2016}}'': Kaecilius is a delusional psychopath, but his intentions are pure. He seeks to use Dormammu to rid the world of time and [[MortalityPhobia ultimately death]], a view he gained after his wife and son died. When confronting Strange about it he claims the end justify the means and reveals that Strange's [[spoiler:Strange's mentor the [[OldMaster Ancient One]] has been using energy from Dormammu's Dark Dimension to keep herself young for decades [[{{Hypocrite}} despite forbidding]] her students from tapping into that [[TheDarkArts power]]. power]]]]. This is what [[FaceHeelTurn caused]] Kaecilius to reject her their teachings and serve Dormamu, [[spoiler: however his goals come back to bite him in the ass as gaining immortality is actually a FateWorseThanDeath]].
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** In ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut'', Anger basically instigates the central conflict of the film when he suggests Riley the idea of running away back to Minnesota. This is because he believes that since most of Riley's happy memories were made in Minnesota, they can make more of them there, ignoring the fact that her old house has been sold and Riley's parents are not going anywhere, meaning there is ''nothing'' to return to.
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* Creator/{{Pixar}} has some examples -- Pete Docter, director of ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'', even said what he thinks is a "true" villain ("I'm gonna wake up and do evil!") is an unrealistic character.
** Waternoose from ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'' is a father-like figure to Sulley and his motto "We Scare Because We Care" is genuine, as he really does wish to maintain the Monster World through providing energy from children's screams. He also honestly believes that children are harder to scare than they used to be, and is determined to find a way to get them screaming at any cost. So, to this end, he has Randall build a horrifying machine that will suck the screams out of children and, [[EngineeredPublicConfession as he says to Sulley]], is willing to "kidnap a THOUSAND children before I let this company die...and silence anyone who gets in my way!"

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* Creator/{{Pixar}} has some examples -- Pete Docter, director of ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'', ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc1'', even said what he thinks is a "true" villain ("I'm gonna wake up and do evil!") is an unrealistic character.
** Waternoose from ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'' ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc1'' is a father-like figure to Sulley and his motto "We Scare Because We Care" is genuine, as he really does wish to maintain the Monster World through providing energy from children's screams. He also honestly believes that children are harder to scare than they used to be, and is determined to find a way to get them screaming at any cost. So, to this end, he has Randall build a horrifying machine that will suck the screams out of children and, [[EngineeredPublicConfession as he says to Sulley]], is willing to "kidnap a THOUSAND children before I let this company die...and silence anyone who gets in my way!"
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* In ''Film/BootCamp'', Dr. Hail honestly believes his program is a way to help troubled teens and their families. His zealotry blinds him to the fact that his program is essentially a prison camp where teens are brainwashed, and sometimes even killed.

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* In ''Film/BootCamp'', ''Film/{{Boot Camp|2008}}'', Dr. Hail honestly believes his program is a way to help troubled teens and their families. His zealotry blinds him to the fact that his program is essentially a prison camp where teens are brainwashed, and sometimes even killed.
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* ''Film/NoGodNoMaster'': This is how Emma Goldman views Galleani and his followers-their bombings only hurt their cause. She had previously learned this the hard way by engaging in it on a lesser scale once by helping her lover Alexander Berkman's attempted killing of Henry Clay Frick. This only got him imprisoned after he was stopped by the very workers in whose name they did it.
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* ''Film/{{Serenity}}'': The Operative is very extremist but still fits in this category. He attempts to paint himself as NecessarilyEvil, however.

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* ''Film/{{Serenity}}'': ''Film/Serenity2005'': The Operative is very extremist but still fits in this category. He attempts to paint himself as NecessarilyEvil, however.
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** ''Film/ManOfSteel'': General Zod's coup de etat was provoked by desperation, as he genuinely wanted to remove the ruling council who foolishly mined Krypton's core for energy causing the seismic calamity that ultimately led to Krypton's destruction. He expressed remorse but desperation with his mentor Jor-El. His attempted genocide and terraforming of Earth into Krypton again wasn't inspired by malice towards the humans but a desperate attempt to save the Kryptonian race, as he was bred as a warrior to protect his race.

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** ''Film/ManOfSteel'': General Zod's coup de etat was provoked by desperation, as he genuinely wanted to remove the ruling council who foolishly mined Krypton's core for energy causing the seismic calamity that ultimately led to Krypton's destruction. He expressed remorse but desperation with his mentor Jor-El. His attempted genocide and [[HostileTerraforming terraforming of Earth into Krypton Krypton]] again wasn't inspired by malice towards the humans but a desperate attempt to save the Kryptonian race, as he was bred as a warrior to protect his race.
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** ''Film/WonderWoman2017'': From a certain (at least his own) point of view, [[spoiler: [[BigBad Ares]]]] isn't evil. According to him, he just wants to brings humans' [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters true nature]], and/if when humanity [[InYourNatureToDestroyYourself destroys evil]], Earth will become peaceful once more.

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** ''Film/WonderWoman2017'': From a certain (at least his own) point of view, [[spoiler: [[BigBad Ares]]]] isn't evil. According to him, he just wants to brings humans' [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters true nature]], and/if when humanity [[InYourNatureToDestroyYourself [[InYourNatureToDestroyYourselves destroys evil]], Earth will become peaceful once more.

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** ''Film/WonderWoman2017'': From a certain (at least his own) point of view, [[spoiler: [[BigBad Ares]]]] isn't evil. According to him, he just wants to brings humans' [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters true nature]], and/if when humanity [[InYourNatureToDestroyYourself destroys evil]], Earth will become peaceful once more.
** ''Film/ManOfSteel'': General Zod's coup de etat was provoked by desperation, as he genuinely wanted to remove the ruling council who foolishly mined Krypton's core for energy causing the seismic calamity that ultimately led to Krypton's destruction. He expressed remorse but desperation with his mentor Jor-El. His attempted genocide and terraforming of Earth into Krypton again wasn't inspired by malice towards the humans but a desperate attempt to save the Kryptonian race, as he was bred as a warrior to protect his race.
--->'''Zod:''' No matter how violent, how cruel, every action I take is for the greater good of my people.



* ''Film/ManOfSteel'': General Zod's coup de etat was provoked by desperation, as he genuinely wanted to remove the ruling council who foolishly mined Krypton's core for energy causing the seismic calamity that ultimately led to Krypton's destruction. He expressed remorse but desperation with his mentor Jor-El. His attempted genocide and terraforming of Earth into Krypton again wasn't inspired by malice towards the humans but a desperate attempt to save the Kryptonian race, as he was bred as a warrior to protect his race.
-->'''Zod:''' No matter how violent, how cruel, every action I take is for the greater good of my people.
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[[WellIntentionedExtremist Well-Intentioned Extremists]] in AnimatedFilms and LiveActionFilms.
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* Creator/{{Pixar}} has some examples -- Pete Docter, director of ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'', even said what he thinks is a "true" villain ("I'm gonna wake up and do evil!/CardCarryingVillain") is an unrealistic character.

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* Creator/{{Pixar}} has some examples -- Pete Docter, director of ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'', even said what he thinks is a "true" villain ("I'm gonna wake up and do evil!/CardCarryingVillain") evil!") is an unrealistic character.
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* Creator/{{Pixar}} has some examples -- Pete Docter, director of ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'', even said what he thinks is a "true" villain ("CardCarryingVillain/I'm gonna wake up and do evil!") is an unrealistic character.

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* Creator/{{Pixar}} has some examples -- Pete Docter, director of ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'', even said what he thinks is a "true" villain ("CardCarryingVillain/I'm ("I'm gonna wake up and do evil!") evil!/CardCarryingVillain") is an unrealistic character.
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* Creator/{{Pixar}} has some examples -- Pete Docter, director of ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'', even said what he thinks is a "true" villain ("I'm gonna wake up and do evil!") is an unrealistic character.

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* Creator/{{Pixar}} has some examples -- Pete Docter, director of ''WesternAnimation/{{Up}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/MonstersInc'', even said what he thinks is a "true" villain ("I'm ("CardCarryingVillain/I'm gonna wake up and do evil!") is an unrealistic character.
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%%* * ''Film/FallingDown'': D-FENS.VillainProtagonist Bill Foster was a WorkingClassHero and JerkWithAHeartOfGold, with the film revolving around him on a GoingPostal rampage against those he felt responsible for the decline of modern society (i.e. [[AssholeVictim people without basic human decency]]) on his way to his [[TakingTheKids estranged daughter]]'s birthday party. Despite terrorizing dozens of people with his [[RecklessGunUsage gun-toting tirades]] towards those who wronged him, he tries to reassure bystanders that he doesn't want to harm anyone and he only directly kills one man [[ThoseWackyNazis who was a Neo-Nazi]]. Bill was designed to be a relatable figure for the audience to identify with, which only serves to make his ProtagonistJourneyToVillain all the more tragic as his emotional instability grows.
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* ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'': Poison Ivy, though she does make her extremist ways known from the outset, as well as the version of the character from ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''. In fact, most of the animated Bat-villains are sympathetic in their first appearance, then less so as their [[MotiveDecay motivation shifts]] to "revenge on Batman". A similar thing happened with the version from ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'', who was set up as even more sympathetic due to being a teenager, but, in subsequent appearances, becomes simply a villain. Subverted in the show's spin-off comic "The Batman Strikes", in which her sympathetic aspects and good intentions are retained.

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* ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'': Poison Ivy, though she does make her extremist ways known from the outset, as well as the version of the character from ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''. In fact, most of the animated Bat-villains are sympathetic in their first appearance, then less so as their [[MotiveDecay motivation shifts]] to "revenge on Batman". A similar thing happened with the version from ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'', who was set up as even more sympathetic due to being a teenager, but, in subsequent appearances, becomes simply a villain. Subverted in the show's spin-off comic "The Batman Strikes", ''ComicBook/TheBatmanStrikes'', in which her sympathetic aspects and good intentions are retained.
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* ''Film/WarForThePlanetOfTheApes'': Colonel [=McCullough=] wants to save humanity from extinction and believes the only way to do so is by wiping out the apes since they were partly responsible for the Simian Flu pandemic. He even kills humans infencted with the virus to prevents its further spreading including [[OffingTheOffspring his son]], [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes which he greatly regrets doing]], [[spoiler: [[DriivenToSuicide and eventually himself.]]]]

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* ''Film/WarForThePlanetOfTheApes'': Colonel [=McCullough=] wants to save humanity from extinction and believes the only way to do so is by wiping out the apes since they were partly responsible for the Simian Flu pandemic. He even kills humans infencted infected with the virus to prevents its further spreading including [[OffingTheOffspring his son]], [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes which he greatly regrets doing]], [[spoiler: [[DriivenToSuicide and eventually himself.]]]]
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* ''Film/WarForThePlanetOfTheApes'': Colonel [=McCullough=] wants to save humanity from extinction and believes the only way to do so is by wiping out the apes since they were partly responsible for the Simian Flu pandemic. He even kills humans infencted with the virus to prevents its further spreading including [[OffingTheOffspring his son]], [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes which he greatly regrets doing]], [[spoiler: [[DriivenToSuicide and eventually himself.]]]]]

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* ''Film/WarForThePlanetOfTheApes'': Colonel [=McCullough=] wants to save humanity from extinction and believes the only way to do so is by wiping out the apes since they were partly responsible for the Simian Flu pandemic. He even kills humans infencted with the virus to prevents its further spreading including [[OffingTheOffspring his son]], [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes which he greatly regrets doing]], [[spoiler: [[DriivenToSuicide and eventually himself.]]]]]]]]]
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* ''Film/WarForThePlanetOfTheApes'': Colonel McCullough wants to save humanity from extinction and believes the only way to do so is by wiping out the apes since they were partly responsible for the Simian Flu pandemic. He even kills humans infencted with the virus to prevents its further spreading including [[OffingTheOffspring his son]] [[spoiler: [[DriivenToSuicide and eventually himself.]]]]]

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* ''Film/WarForThePlanetOfTheApes'': Colonel McCullough [=McCullough=] wants to save humanity from extinction and believes the only way to do so is by wiping out the apes since they were partly responsible for the Simian Flu pandemic. He even kills humans infencted with the virus to prevents its further spreading including [[OffingTheOffspring his son]] son]], [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes which he greatly regrets doing]], [[spoiler: [[DriivenToSuicide and eventually himself.]]]]]
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* ''Film/WarForThePlanetOfTheApes'': Colonel McCullough wants to save humanity from extinction and believes the only way to do so is by wiping out the apes since they were partly responsible for the Simian Flu pandemic. He even kills humans infencted with the virus to prevents its further spreading including [[OffingTheOffspring his son]] [[spoiler: [[DriivenToSuicide and eventually himself.]]]]]
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* Dr. Phillium Benedict from ''WesternAnimation/RecessSchoolsOut'' wants to raise standardized test scores among American children, which he sees recess and summer vacation as obstacles to achieve that goal. His plan to remove these obstacles is to create a tractor beam to pull the moon into a different orbit, thereby eliminating summer and with it summer vacation. Ignoring the ecological disaster plunging Earth into a new Ice Age would cause, [=TJ=] points out that summer vacation doesn't work like that and the kids would still get their allotted breaks regardless of the weather, but Benedict is too far gone to listen to reason.
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His Motive Rant indicates it was more of Its All About Me, given how he also insulted Woody during it.


** ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory2'''s Stinky Pete wants Woody to go to Japan with him, Jessie and Bullseye because he believes that he is saving them from being destroyed by children. However, his methods of trying to convince Woody (framing Jessie for turning on the TV when he was the one who did it, screwing the vent shut before Woody can leave through it and ripping open Woody's arm) are really not the nicest ways he could have done it.
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* General Hemmer, the BigBad of ''WesternAnimation/BattleForTerra'', intends to commit genocide in the Terran population so humans can take over the planet. However, he does so because the last remnants of humanity are trapped on a ColonyShip that is slowly failing, and they have only two months before it ceases to function entirely, which would leave the entire species extinct. Thus, he's decided to ensure humanity survives [[TheUnfettered by any means necessary]].
--> '''Hemmer:''' If I sin, let future generations judge me. [[IDidWhatIHadToDo But mark this: only thanks to me will there be any future generations!]]

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