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Come on, Dumbledore even says in his commentary that one of the reasons the Fountain of Fair Fortune play turned out so badly was because of a LoveTriangle with the actors, and pretty much the entire point of the SchoolPlay fanfic is to force the author's favorite ship together by making them play characters who fall in love.

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Come on, Dumbledore even says in his commentary that one of the reasons the Fountain of Fair Fortune play turned out so badly was because of a LoveTriangle with the actors, and pretty much the entire point of the SchoolPlay fanfic is to force the author's favorite ship together by making them play characters who fall in love.love.
* The actors for the romantic couple actually were going out until an hour before the curtain rose, when the guy playing Sir Luckless broke up with the girl playing Amata because he was attracted to the actor who played the sick witch. Immediately after the Ashwinder exploded, the two girls attacked one another with spells and the whole thing just went downhill from there.
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* {{Jossed}}. [[JKRowling JK Rowling]] said on her website that it was a Thestral hair, though if the below theory is correct, then this theory lives on to another day!

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* {{Jossed}}. [[JKRowling JK Rowling]] Creator/JKRowling said on her website that it was a Thestral hair, though if the below theory is correct, then this theory lives on to another day!
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** {{Jossed}}. In POA Harry uses the cloak to hide from Hagrid, =McGonagall= and Fudge.

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** {{Jossed}}. In POA Harry uses the cloak to hide from Hagrid, =McGonagall= [=McGonagall=] and Fudge.
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**{{Jossed}}. In POA Harry uses the cloak to hide from Hagrid, =McGonagall= and Fudge.
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[[WMG: Beatrix Bloxam's uncle Nobby is the local equivalent to {{Discworld}}'s Corporal Cecil Wormsborough St. John Nobbs, aka Nobby.]]
Nobby himself is already unpleasant to look at when fully clothed, but having to imagine him naked with an old crone and ComicSutra implements? Little wonder she was traumtized by the "ghastly details of the dreadfully unsavory affair of my uncle Nobby, the local hag and a sack of Bouncing Bulbs".

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[[WMG: Beatrix Bloxam's uncle Nobby is the local equivalent to {{Discworld}}'s Literature/{{Discworld}}'s Corporal Cecil Wormsborough St. John Nobbs, aka Nobby.]]
Nobby himself is already unpleasant to look at when fully clothed, but having to imagine him naked with an old crone and ComicSutra implements? Little wonder she was traumtized traumatized by the "ghastly details of the dreadfully unsavory affair of my uncle Nobby, the local hag and a sack of Bouncing Bulbs".
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* Um... The book very clearly explained how the Elder Wand changes masters. At least, it was pretty clear to me. In case it wasn't, here it is: In order for the Elder Wand to recognize a new master, its current master must be defeated, but "defeated" does ''not'' mean "killed". It could mean something as simple as Disarming, as [[spoiler: Harry]] did to the real master of the Elder Wand as of the end of HalfBloodPrince, [[spoiler: Draco Malfoy]] (also: the master doesn't have to be using the Elder Wand for it to be defeated). So there's the first link in the progression broken: Snape was never the master of the Elder Wand, because [[spoiler: he killed Dumbledore as per a prior agreement; Dumbledore more or less forfeited his mastery of the wand to Draco]]. The second link in the chain has a very low probability of being able to mutter an incantation (she'd have to hold the wand in her mouth, and proper word choice and pronunciation is kind of a big deal in the Potterverse), and she never defeated any of the wand's true masters. Neville, while [[TookALevelInBadass taking a level in badass]], ''also'' never defeated any of the wand's masters, but hey, come on. He ended up being master of a big fucking sword that can only be mastered by a true Gryffindor; he's no less {{badass}} for not being a master of the Elder Wand (which, as [[spoiler: Harry]] pointed out later, is a lot more hassle than most people want to deal with).

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* Um... The book very clearly explained how the Elder Wand changes masters. At least, it was pretty clear to me. In case it wasn't, here it is: In order for the Elder Wand to recognize a new master, its current master must be defeated, but "defeated" does ''not'' mean "killed". It could mean something as simple as Disarming, as [[spoiler: Harry]] did to the real master of the Elder Wand as of the end of HalfBloodPrince, ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheHalfBloodPrince Half-Blood Prince]]'', [[spoiler: Draco Malfoy]] (also: the master doesn't have to be using the Elder Wand for it to be defeated). So there's the first link in the progression broken: Snape was never the master of the Elder Wand, because [[spoiler: he killed Dumbledore as per a prior agreement; Dumbledore more or less forfeited his mastery of the wand to Draco]]. The second link in the chain has a very low probability of being able to mutter an incantation (she'd have to hold the wand in her mouth, and proper word choice and pronunciation is kind of a big deal in the Potterverse), and she never defeated any of the wand's true masters. Neville, while [[TookALevelInBadass taking a level in badass]], ''also'' never defeated any of the wand's masters, but hey, come on. He ended up being master of a big fucking sword that can only be mastered by a true Gryffindor; he's no less {{badass}} for not being a master of the Elder Wand (which, as [[spoiler: Harry]] pointed out later, is a lot more hassle than most people want to deal with).
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[[WMG: J.K. Rowling included the ban on theatrical productions at Hogwarts as a TakeThat at SchoolPlay fanfiction.]]
Come on, Dumbledore even says in his commentary that one of the reasons the Fountain of Fair Fortune play turned out so badly was because of a LoveTriangle with the actors, and pretty much the entire point of the SchoolPlay fanfic is to force the author's favorite ship together by making them play characters who fall in love.
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The stone dias is the last remaining piece of the ancient bridge the Peverells made to cross the river Styx (obviously related to the above WMG about the river). Somehow, somewhere down the line, he was caught by the Wizards' Council, and with a complex series of spells, trapped between the realms of the living and the dead, leaving only the last of his tattered veil. The Department of Mysteries, and consequently, the Ministry of Magic, was developed to keep an eye on Death's cage, and scientifically benefit from this hole in reality.

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The stone dias is the last remaining piece of the ancient bridge the Peverells made to cross the river Styx (obviously related to the above WMG about the river). Somehow, somewhere down the line, he was caught by the Wizards' Council, and with a complex series of spells, trapped between the realms of the living and the dead, leaving only the last of his tattered veil. The Department of Mysteries, and consequently, the Ministry of Magic, was developed to keep an eye on Death's cage, and scientifically benefit from this hole in reality.reality.

[[WMG: Beatrix Bloxam's uncle Nobby is the local equivalent to {{Discworld}}'s Corporal Cecil Wormsborough St. John Nobbs, aka Nobby.]]
Nobby himself is already unpleasant to look at when fully clothed, but having to imagine him naked with an old crone and ComicSutra implements? Little wonder she was traumtized by the "ghastly details of the dreadfully unsavory affair of my uncle Nobby, the local hag and a sack of Bouncing Bulbs".
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*** They did, in the Ministry of Magic. It's implied , however that [[TheChessmaster Dumbledore]] was intentionally battling to a draw for a number of possible reasons.
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**How exactly does that confirm that the encounter with death happened. I thought it was pretty clearly meant to be the case that it hadn't happened and that while the Peverell Brothers existed they had simply made the Hallows with their own skills.
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**However Voldemort uses the Disillusionment Charm on himself in book 6. Draco, Crabbe and Goyle all use the Disillusionment Charm on themselves in Book 7. As to why Draco assumes he was attacked by ghost might be because he was being attacked right by "the most severely haunted building in Britain".
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**To be fair Harry had seen pictures of both Lupin and Sirius as post-Hogwarts members of the Order of the Phoenix. He had also seen both as students in the Pensieve.
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**** Jossed. JK Rowling said that silver do not work on Harry Potter werewolves.

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**** Jossed. To the silver cane idea, JK Rowling said mentioned that silver do does not work on Harry Potter werewolves.
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*I thought that the book implied that owners of the Elder Wand lost due to arrogance; that having possession of an unbeatable wand made them lazy and unintelligent when it came to using it.

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*** But then...why does the illustration show her walking with a cane? Oh! I got an idea!
*** The cane was silver. If she was transformed and couldn't stop herself, someone could use the silver cane to beat her into submission.
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* Um... The book very clearly explained how the Elder Wand changes masters. [[YourMileageMayVary At least, it was pretty clear to me]]. In case it wasn't, here it is: In order for the Elder Wand to recognize a new master, its current master must be defeated, but "defeated" does ''not'' mean "killed". It could mean something as simple as Disarming, as [[spoiler: Harry]] did to the real master of the Elder Wand as of the end of HalfBloodPrince, [[spoiler: Draco Malfoy]] (also: the master doesn't have to be using the Elder Wand for it to be defeated). So there's the first link in the progression broken: Snape was never the master of the Elder Wand, because [[spoiler: he killed Dumbledore as per a prior agreement; Dumbledore more or less forfeited his mastery of the wand to Draco]]. The second link in the chain has a very low probability of being able to mutter an incantation (she'd have to hold the wand in her mouth, and proper word choice and pronunciation is kind of a big deal in the Potterverse), and she never defeated any of the wand's true masters. Neville, while [[TookALevelInBadass taking a level in badass]], ''also'' never defeated any of the wand's masters, but hey, come on. He ended up being master of a big fucking sword that can only be mastered by a true Gryffindor; he's no less {{badass}} for not being a master of the Elder Wand (which, as [[spoiler: Harry]] pointed out later, is a lot more hassle than most people want to deal with).

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* Um... The book very clearly explained how the Elder Wand changes masters. [[YourMileageMayVary At least, it was pretty clear to me]].me. In case it wasn't, here it is: In order for the Elder Wand to recognize a new master, its current master must be defeated, but "defeated" does ''not'' mean "killed". It could mean something as simple as Disarming, as [[spoiler: Harry]] did to the real master of the Elder Wand as of the end of HalfBloodPrince, [[spoiler: Draco Malfoy]] (also: the master doesn't have to be using the Elder Wand for it to be defeated). So there's the first link in the progression broken: Snape was never the master of the Elder Wand, because [[spoiler: he killed Dumbledore as per a prior agreement; Dumbledore more or less forfeited his mastery of the wand to Draco]]. The second link in the chain has a very low probability of being able to mutter an incantation (she'd have to hold the wand in her mouth, and proper word choice and pronunciation is kind of a big deal in the Potterverse), and she never defeated any of the wand's true masters. Neville, while [[TookALevelInBadass taking a level in badass]], ''also'' never defeated any of the wand's masters, but hey, come on. He ended up being master of a big fucking sword that can only be mastered by a true Gryffindor; he's no less {{badass}} for not being a master of the Elder Wand (which, as [[spoiler: Harry]] pointed out later, is a lot more hassle than most people want to deal with).
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* Death is a shape-shifter who can take ANY form.
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[[WMG: Death is a Thestral Animagus.]]
An invisible creature that is strongly associated with the afterlife... sounds like Death. So, when the Peverells made the bridge, and Death created the hallows, he used one of his tail hairs to make the Elder Wand, transferred the invisiblity factor of the Thestral to his cloak, and used some random rock for resurrection stone, maybe a brooch or cut gem.
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** Because he was never resurrected? Also, I think he only destroys it in the movie.
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** In this theory, either he found the Stone shortly before Christmas 1991, or had been Master of Death for quite some time at this point and only "accepted Death as an old friend" during this very year, after considering Voldemort's mistakes and/or talking with Flamel.

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** In this theory, either he found the Stone shortly before Christmas 1991, or had been Master of Death for quite some time at this point and only "accepted Death as an old friend" during this very year, after considering Voldemort's mistakes and/or talking with Flamel.
Flamel -becoming the Dumbledore we all love only at the beginning of the saga.
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In this theory, either he found the Stone shortly before Christmas 1991, or had been Master of Death for quite some time at this point and only "accepted Death as an old friend" during this very year, after considering Voldemort's mistakes and/or talking with Flamel.

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** In this theory, either he found the Stone shortly before Christmas 1991, or had been Master of Death for quite some time at this point and only "accepted Death as an old friend" during this very year, after considering Voldemort's mistakes and/or talking with Flamel.
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* I love this theory because it's somewhat less far-fetched than some other dei ex machina involved in the final battle, and because it's totally consistent with Dumbledore's character: with all three Hallows, he found himself Master of Death and became afraid of his own power, because he knows what the darkness inside him -the one that believed in "the greater good", the one he keeps fighting against- is capable of; and thus gave one of the Hallows to Harry as soon as he can. Of course, James' will helped him to regain his reason, but I like to imagine him tempted.
In this theory, either he found the Stone shortly before Christmas 1991, or had been Master of Death for quite some time at this point and only "accepted Death as an old friend" during this very year, after considering Voldemort's mistakes and/or talking with Flamel.
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* The tree itself doesn't have to be more resistant as long as it's ''Death himself'' who carves it.

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* Actually no. Dumbledore owned the Elder Wand, and at one point had borrowed the Cloak from James. But by the time he got his hands on the stone, Harry had had the cloak for some time. Since anyone would have been able to claim the Stone by that point one could argue Dumbledore was the 'owner' of that Hallow as well, though he later bequeathed it to Harry. Only the Elder Wand genuinely belonged to Dumbledore since he outright won it. The other two weren't truly his and he never had all three at once.
** Isn't this what the original poster just said!?



[[spoiler: I actually had this thought while the movie played but assuming Nagini whom can't cast magic due to not being human and or have magical properties than this theory falls apart.]]



* DEATH cannot see through Harry's cloak. DD, Moody, Crouch, Snape, Norris and such Gryffindors '''can''' see through. The Cloak only works versus children, squibs and Slyths.
** Out of all the people you mentioned, only DD is a confirmed Gryffindor. Snape, and possibly Crouch, is a Slytherin. Also, Mrs. Norris is a CAT.

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* DEATH cannot see through Harry's cloak. DD, Moody, Crouch, Snape, Norris and such Gryffindors '''can''' see through. The Cloak only works versus children, squibs and Slyths.
** Out of all the people you mentioned, only DD is a confirmed Gryffindor. Snape, and possibly Crouch, is a Slytherin. Also, Mrs. Norris is a CAT.
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I, of course, express skepticism that the Peverell brothers actually met Death after crossing a deadly river. It is my opinion that Antioch crafted the Elder Wand, but was having issues with controlling it, as Thestral hair is very difficult to incorporate into a wand. Seeking power and control over the wand, Antioch murdered the rival wizard with the immature wand, and used the murder of his rival to seal a piece of his own soul into the Elder Wand. Euphoric from the new found power of the wand, Antioch went to the bar bragging of how he bested death (by placing his own soul into his own wand!), but did not count on being killed by non-magical means. Without any loyal followers to restore his body, his soul fragment lives on in the wand, accounting for its power, the ability to do magic considered impossible, and the unusual characteristic of transferring loyalty to the wizard who overpowers the previous owner.

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I, of course, express skepticism that the Peverell brothers actually met Death after crossing a deadly river. It is my opinion that Antioch crafted the Elder Wand, but was having issues with controlling it, as Thestral hair is very difficult to incorporate into a wand. Seeking power and control over the wand, Antioch murdered the rival wizard with the immature wand, and used the murder of his rival to seal a piece of his own soul into the Elder Wand. Euphoric from the new found power of the wand, Antioch went to the bar bragging of how he bested death (by placing his own soul into his own wand!), but did not count on being killed by non-magical means. Without any loyal followers to restore his body, his soul fragment lives on in the wand, accounting for its power, the ability to do magic considered impossible, and the unusual characteristic of transferring loyalty to the wizard who overpowers the previous owner.owner.
* But then, why was Harry able to [[spoiler: destroy it]] so easily, unlike Voldemort's many Horcruxes?

[[WMG: The Veil in the Department of Mysteries is the last of Death's mortal presence.]]
The stone dias is the last remaining piece of the ancient bridge the Peverells made to cross the river Styx (obviously related to the above WMG about the river). Somehow, somewhere down the line, he was caught by the Wizards' Council, and with a complex series of spells, trapped between the realms of the living and the dead, leaving only the last of his tattered veil. The Department of Mysteries, and consequently, the Ministry of Magic, was developed to keep an eye on Death's cage, and scientifically benefit from this hole in reality.
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If the Deathly Hallows are real, then by theend of the book Harry is the master of all three -

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** Isn't this what the original poster just said!?



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*** Slytherin =/= evil. Besides, despite their apparent HeelFaceTurn (or rather, they went from working for the BigBad to being neutral), Malfoy was still somewhat of a coward, although also somewhat intelligent - he was implied to be able to pick up new skills rather easily. Of course, all of that talent was hidden under his JerkAss personality and a laundry list of other character flaws. If he had been sorted anywhere else, it probably would have been Ravenclaw.

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*** Slytherin =/= evil. Besides, despite their apparent HeelFaceTurn (or rather, they went from working for the BigBad to being neutral), Malfoy was still somewhat of a coward, although also somewhat intelligent - he was implied to be able to pick up new skills rather easily. Of course, all of that talent was hidden under his JerkAss personality and a laundry list of other character flaws. If he had been sorted anywhere else, it probably would have been Ravenclaw.Ravenclaw.

[[WMG: The Elder Wand is a Horcrux of Antioch Peverell.]]
I, of course, express skepticism that the Peverell brothers actually met Death after crossing a deadly river. It is my opinion that Antioch crafted the Elder Wand, but was having issues with controlling it, as Thestral hair is very difficult to incorporate into a wand. Seeking power and control over the wand, Antioch murdered the rival wizard with the immature wand, and used the murder of his rival to seal a piece of his own soul into the Elder Wand. Euphoric from the new found power of the wand, Antioch went to the bar bragging of how he bested death (by placing his own soul into his own wand!), but did not count on being killed by non-magical means. Without any loyal followers to restore his body, his soul fragment lives on in the wand, accounting for its power, the ability to do magic considered impossible, and the unusual characteristic of transferring loyalty to the wizard who overpowers the previous owner.
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* When did Voldemort ever duel Dumbledore to a draw? As far as i know, they never actually fought at all.

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* When did Voldemort ever duel Dumbledore to a draw? As far as i I know, they never actually fought at all.
** I believe they dueled in the fifth book.

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** Um, wasn't that Rita Skeeter saying that's what ''could have'' happened?




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* When did Voldemort ever duel Dumbledore to a draw? As far as i know, they never actually fought at all.

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