History WMG / TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask

14th Mar '16 8:36:57 AM TrixiePixie
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[[WMG: The Happy Mask Salesman is the [[spoiler: Soul of the Moon]]]]
We know that the moon has some sort of life, as it speaks while [[spoiler: attempting to fall on Termina under Majora's influence]]. But if it's so convinced to destroy all life, then why is it raining moon TEARS? When it speaks, it merely states that it wants to consume all. It's portrayed as a mindless entity, a slave to Majora. So if Majora is controlling it, and it's become mindless, what happened to its consciousness? That's where the Happy Mask Salesman comes in. A mysterious man who instantly knows your situation, moves in erratic, inhuman ways, and has a grudge against Majora? Seems kind of suspicious. The guise of the Happy Mask Salesman isn't his actual appearance, it's just AFormYouAreComfortableWith. He pretends to be after Majora's Mask, but really he's after Majora itself. This is evidenced by simply fading away after Majora's defeat, and when the moon is freed from its influence.

The Happy Mask Salesman is also the only entity in the game who remains after the Moon crushes Termina in a game over, though we don't see his physical form. And who else would be left on the planet? Maybe Majora, and the Moon. However, the HMS is only a fraction of the Moon's Soul. The rest of it, embodied by the Moon Children, has been sealed away in the bosses, which gives them their power. And due to their being sealed away with a mask by a masked Skull Kid, they've come to associate masks with evil, which explains their obsession with obtaining them. They want to take them and destroy them.

So, to recap, HMS is actually the Moon's disembodied soul manipulating you into freeing it to return to its body. The intellectual part, or Ego, split and disguised itself as the Happy Mask Salesman, taking the idea out of Link's Memory. The rest of its mind is sealed away in the Moon Children (Superego) and the Moon itself (Id). Defeating Majora frees them and allows them to control themselves again. HMS never had any intention of reclaiming the mask, he just wanted you to destroy it.
26th Feb '16 9:49:17 AM Morgenthaler
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Majora's Mask is [[Persona2EternalPunishment Nyarlathotep]], The Moon is Nyx, The Happy Mask Salesman is either Philemon or Igor, and almost everyone in Termina is a Persona User, which would make Link a Wild Card. The Happy Mask Salesman does give you what it essentially your first mask, or in this case, Persona. The themes of Major's Mask and Persona 3 do fit with each other, knowing that death is inescapable.


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Majora's Mask is [[Persona2EternalPunishment [[VideoGame/Persona2EternalPunishment Nyarlathotep]], The Moon is Nyx, The Happy Mask Salesman is either Philemon or Igor, and almost everyone in Termina is a Persona User, which would make Link a Wild Card. The Happy Mask Salesman does give you what it essentially your first mask, or in this case, Persona. The themes of Major's Mask and Persona 3 do fit with each other, knowing that death is inescapable.

21st Feb '16 9:29:30 PM Slammurai
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[[WMG: Majora's Mask is happening in the Persona Universe]]
Majora's Mask is [[Persona2EternalPunishment Nyarlathotep]], The Moon is Nyx, The Happy Mask Salesman is either Philemon or Igor, and almost everyone in Termina is a Persona User, which would make Link a Wild Card. The Happy Mask Salesman does give you what it essentially your first mask, or in this case, Persona. The themes of Major's Mask and Persona 3 do fit with each other, knowing that death is inescapable.

21st Feb '16 9:16:28 PM Slammurai
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[[WMG: Major's Mask takes place in [[ChronoCross El Nido]] in the FAR FAR future]]
Termina has now become the name of the land in place of El Nido. Majora's Mask is actually the face of the Mammon Machine from Zeal that broke off when it was stabbed by the Ruby Knife during Trigger. Furthermore, the dark corruption that tainted the Masamune during Cross was the same dark magic that corrupts the mask's wearer.

Alternatively, Majora's Mask and the Frozen Flame may even be connected. Finally, the Ocarina of Time is either Lucca's Gate Key or another Chrono Trigger created by Belthasaur.

With that WMG in mind, one realizes that every time Link returns to the Dawn of the First Day, he sends the previous three day cycle to The Darkness Beyond Time. Imagine how many Majora's Masks must be floating around from all the aborted cycles.... The Time Devourer is probably the least of everyone's worries.
25th Jan '16 6:15:42 PM 666metalupyourass
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**So, the non-canon version? (I agree on the rest of the WMG tho).




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**So, the non-canon version? (I agree on the rest of the WMG tho).




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*Beause Skull Kid IS a harmless little punk as far as they are aware. Him attacking one of the sisters is all they know he did.
3rd Jan '16 11:41:26 AM nombretomado
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* So Termina is a suburb of [[SoulEater Death City]]?

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* So Termina is a suburb of [[SoulEater [[Manga/SoulEater Death City]]?
23rd Oct '15 5:10:59 PM nombretomado
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I know, it's the most wild of the wild mass guesses on this site, but think about it. There's nothing in any of the games that he's appeared in that suggests that he is evil. (Granted, I've only played Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time, if there's a game he appeared in that did have him as evil, feel free to correct me.) People always assume that he'd evil due to his creepy nature, but not all creepy people are evil. Heck, [[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor]] has a folder to himself on that series's [[NightmareFuel/DoctorWho Nightmare Fuel page]], but no one's going to say he's evil. The only thing that he does that even comes close to evil is when he shakes Link around like a rag doll, but a) he was in the middle of a monumental freakout due to the idea that Termina's ultimate evil might return, I think we can forgive him for a brief moment of losing control, and b) [[PhantomHourglass Link getting shaken like that]] [[SkywardSword is nothing new.]] Aside from that, yeah, he gets that creepy face, but both times it appears, it's justified. In Ocarina of Time, Link has taken his products without giving him his money back. What kind of business would it be if he just let that slide? Compared to what others might do, a little nightmare face seems benign. The second time, in Majora's Mask, is during the aforementioned monumental freakout, when he was afraid that Termina's ultimate evil would bring about the apocalypse, and learned that Link hadn't followed through on his promise to get the mask back. A little anger there wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility, and he cools down as soon as Link swears to get the mask back at all costs. And finally, when he says that Link's met with a terrible fate, the first time is when Link's been robbed completely, transformed into a Deku Scrub, and trapped in another dimention due for apocolypse in 3 days, and the only other time is when the moon crashes down, in which case Link is ''experiencing'' the apocolypse. That's not evil, that's stating the obvious. If anything, he seems relatively benign from some of his lines at the ending. No real proof of evil.

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I know, it's the most wild of the wild mass guesses on this site, but think about it. There's nothing in any of the games that he's appeared in that suggests that he is evil. (Granted, I've only played Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time, if there's a game he appeared in that did have him as evil, feel free to correct me.) People always assume that he'd evil due to his creepy nature, but not all creepy people are evil. Heck, [[Series/DoctorWho The Doctor]] has a folder to himself on that series's [[NightmareFuel/DoctorWho Nightmare Fuel page]], but no one's going to say he's evil. The only thing that he does that even comes close to evil is when he shakes Link around like a rag doll, but a) he was in the middle of a monumental freakout due to the idea that Termina's ultimate evil might return, I think we can forgive him for a brief moment of losing control, and b) [[PhantomHourglass [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaPhantomHourglass Link getting shaken like that]] [[SkywardSword [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword is nothing new.]] Aside from that, yeah, he gets that creepy face, but both times it appears, it's justified. In Ocarina of Time, Link has taken his products without giving him his money back. What kind of business would it be if he just let that slide? Compared to what others might do, a little nightmare face seems benign. The second time, in Majora's Mask, is during the aforementioned monumental freakout, when he was afraid that Termina's ultimate evil would bring about the apocalypse, and learned that Link hadn't followed through on his promise to get the mask back. A little anger there wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility, and he cools down as soon as Link swears to get the mask back at all costs. And finally, when he says that Link's met with a terrible fate, the first time is when Link's been robbed completely, transformed into a Deku Scrub, and trapped in another dimention due for apocolypse in 3 days, and the only other time is when the moon crashes down, in which case Link is ''experiencing'' the apocolypse. That's not evil, that's stating the obvious. If anything, he seems relatively benign from some of his lines at the ending. No real proof of evil.



*** [[PhantomHourglass The realm of the Ocean King]] is implied to be a parallel universe...[[EpilepticTrees maybe]] the apocalypse-by-moon, not prevented in this timeline because Link was busy being sealed in the Master Sword, resulted in some sort of nuclear winter [[note]]Okay, maybe [[ArtisticLicense it would fail science forever[[/note]], but that's not exactly new in the [[AWizardDidIt Zelda 'verse]]]], causing a [[TheGreatFlood Great Flood]]? Different reasons, same outcome: a destroyed world covered in water, populated by the legacies of a few survivors, some looking [[{{Expy}} strangely similar]] but apparently different people (I'm looking at you, Beedle).

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*** [[PhantomHourglass [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaPhantomHourglass The realm of the Ocean King]] is implied to be a parallel universe...[[EpilepticTrees maybe]] the apocalypse-by-moon, not prevented in this timeline because Link was busy being sealed in the Master Sword, resulted in some sort of nuclear winter [[note]]Okay, maybe [[ArtisticLicense it would fail science forever[[/note]], but that's not exactly new in the [[AWizardDidIt Zelda 'verse]]]], causing a [[TheGreatFlood Great Flood]]? Different reasons, same outcome: a destroyed world covered in water, populated by the legacies of a few survivors, some looking [[{{Expy}} strangely similar]] but apparently different people (I'm looking at you, Beedle).
23rd Oct '15 5:00:09 PM nombretomado
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** The theory also suggests that Link himself goes through the five stages of grief due to his self-exile that resulted from his friend Navi having bid him farewell (and according to Hyrule Historia and the confirmation that he eventually became the Hero's Shade in ''[[TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]'', he is unable to reach the stage of acceptance until that very game, after his descendant learns all of the Hidden Skills).

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** The theory also suggests that Link himself goes through the five stages of grief due to his self-exile that resulted from his friend Navi having bid him farewell (and according to Hyrule Historia and the confirmation that he eventually became the Hero's Shade in ''[[TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]'', he is unable to reach the stage of acceptance until that very game, after his descendant learns all of the Hidden Skills).
6th Sep '15 1:44:49 PM cillianflood
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*** It is quite possible that this is something the developers intended but I think it should be noted that the famed five stages of grief are actually specifically about the grief one feels with a terminal illness and don't commonly apply to other forms of grief. It's still mistaken enough that the developers could have intended it to be relate to Link but I think it's unlikely.
6th Sep '15 1:39:48 PM Summonwind
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** Just a thought, does Link even know that the Dead Deku Tree is the Deku Bulter's son? Does he even know that he that the mask he possesses could possibly contain the Deku Bulter's son spirit? For all he knows he was cursed to become a Deku and when the Song of Healing was played, he could have simply thought the mask was a aftereffect of the song? Deku Bulter did say he reminds him of his son, but Link doesn't have to be wearing the Deku Mask to race him and/or receive the mask of scents so it could it mean anything.
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