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[[WMG: ''The Batman'' takes place in the same universe as ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'', Batman goes through 2 more Robins, and Red X (Teen Titans character) is Jason Todd.]]

** He was also disappointed that Ellen was working with Batman. He thought she was different from Ethan.

** He was likely displeased that Ethan is back on the first. He still holds a grudge for his pro-Batman stance and for trying to kill him.

OK, this is partially based on the fact that it would all make sense. In this universe, Dick goes through the path he is seen to have gone through in Artifacts. However, in the 20 years between that and the present, Batman goes through 2 more Robins. First, Todd. However, in this universe, he doesn't die. He blames Batman for him ALMOST dying, and becomes a crook. Soon after, Batman gets a new Robin, Tim Drake. Batman trains him for a bit, and he goes to form the Titans shortly before "Artifacts". Jason was at the time a small-time crook, until he found out about the Red X suit. Then he stole it for revenge, money, and the lulz. Also, Rumor was an experimental Slade bot, hence the voice.

Also, compare Dick/ Robin's costume to that of Robin of the ''Teen Titans''. Notice a huge similarity? Apparently, the Robin we know from the Titans is Grayson himself, as per several hints scattered throughout the show.

Ok, this is partially based on the fact that it would all make sense. Ok, in this universe, Dick goes through the path he is seen to have gone through in Artifacts. However, in the 20 years between that and the present, Batman goes through 2 more Robins. First, Todd. However, in this universe, he doesn't die. He blames Batman for him ALMOST dying, and becomes a crook. Soon after, Batman gets a new Robin, Tim Drake. Batman trains him for a bit, and he goes to form the Titans shortly before "Artifacts". Jason was at the time a small-time crook, until he found out about the Red X suit. Then he stole it for revenge, money, and the lulz. Also, Rumor was an experimental Slade bot, hence the voice.

* Theory Two: Gordon or Mayor Grange fired him. Let's be honest: Rojas was an idiot who shouldn't have been able to get very far in the force, let alone become the second-in-command of the GCPD. I mean, for God's sake, some of the Riddler's riddles were so easy, as Yin said, a two year-old could've solved them and he got a headache trying to figure them out and couldn't (the museum one comes to mind). Then again, he could also have been a DirtyCop, too. The comment about Ethan not being able "to play ball" could very well mean Rojas was corrupt and when Rojas partnered up Ethan and Ellen, his comment about he deciding "two heads are better than one" and deciding to do so after Rupert Throne went to jail could mean that like Commissioner Loeb in ''BatmanYearOne'', Rojas began to get antsy that Batman might bust him, too.

* Implied, but never outright stated. He may not be doing the Science himself this time, but perhaps his motive is the same as his ''BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' counterpart. It would undo some of Freeze's perceived AdaptationDecay.

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When Ethan makes his first aborted attempt at pulling a HeelFaceTurn, while he admits the time in Arkham has helped him overcome the trauma of being turned into Clayface, he confesses he would like to try and keep his powers so that he can [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility use them to serve the law]]. Batman immediately shoots this down by insisting that Ethan[[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity will go insane whenever he uses his powers]]. However, at this point in time, Ethan is shown morphing his body with great skill, implying he's been practicing while still being perfectly calm and rational. Furthermore, in a future episode, he uses his power to subdue Joker without hurting him, turns him over to Batman, and then calmly turns himself in. There aren't any scenes supporting Batman's claim that Ethan using his powers would drive him insane -- even in the episode in question, his final breakdown can be attributed to simple paranoia as things just kept escalating beyond his control, all because he accidentally used his powers ''once'' and would have gone right back to Arkham if the police found out. Of course, ''why'' Batman would lie to Clayface about his powers negatively affecting his mental state is another WMG.

** Also, there was no mention of Carmine Falcone in the series. Before the costumed villains showed up, the only major crime lord shown was Rubert Thorne.

** He must also dislikes the Justice League as well.

Ok, this is partially based on the fact that it would all make sense. Ok, in this universe, Dick goes through the path he is seen to have gone through in Artifacts. However, in the 20 years between that and the present, Batman goes through 2 more Robins. First, Todd. However, in this universe, he doesn't die. He blames Batman for him ALMOST dying, and becomes a crook. Soon after, Batman gets a new Robin, Tim Drake. Batman trains him for a bit, and he goes to form the Titans shortly before "Artifacts". Jason was at the time a small-time crook, until he found out about the Red X suit. The he stole it for revenge, money, and the lulz. Also, Rumor was an experimental Slade bot, hence the voice.

[[WMG: The Joker in this continuity is black.]]
From what I remember he's voiced at one point by a black guy, and it'd be a brilliant twist on the character. Who'd notice?
** The pre-Joker Joker is seen in a flashback in "The Rubber Face of Comedy" as well as inside Joker's mind in "Strange Minds", and he's not black.
*** Well, we can't really trust his mind, and he could have found a way to look white.
*** He could just be light-skinned. Maybe he's one of the [[TheCosbyShow Huxtable kids]] grown up...
**** Alternatively, the flashback is Bennett's ImagineSpot to the Joker's retelling of his origins.

**** Perhaps because she has already died by the time Victor becomes Mr. Freeze.
**** If so, [[FridgeHorror this creates]] [[MoralityPet dark]] [[DespairEventHorizon implications]] on this version.

* I like to think he stayed in the force long enough to participate in the fight against the Joining. And Batman saved him at point, but Rojas is ''still'' ungrateful and tells him "it doesn't change a thing". He may have also gotten help from Robin, Batgirl, Ellen Yin, or even Ethan Bennett. He's also not happy with Gordon's decision of letting the criminals help in fight.

[[WMG: This takes place in a divergent timeline after ''Batman Begins'', that ignores The Dark Knight, Or was INTENDED to be an interquel.]]

When Clayface 1 makes his first aborted attempt at pulling a HeelFaceTurn, while he admits the time in Arkham has helped him overcome the trauma of being turned into Clayface, he confesses he would like to try and keep his powers so that he can [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility use them to serve the law]]. Bruce immediately shoots this down by insisting that Clayface [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity will go insane whenever he uses his powers]]. However, at this point in time, Clayface is shown morphing his body with great skill, implying he's been practicing, while still being perfectly calm and rational. Furthermore, in a future episode, he uses his power to subdue Joker without hurting him, turns him over to Batman, and then calmly turns himself in. There aren't any scenes supporting Bruce Wayne's claim that using his ElementalShapeshifting would drive Clayface nuts -- even in the episode in question, his final breakdown can be attributed to simple paranoia as things just keep escalating beyond his control, all because he accidentally used his powers ''once'' and would have gone right back to Arkham if the police found out. Of course, ''why'' Batman would lie to Clayface about his powers negatively affecting his mental state is another WMG.

**** Perhaps because she has already died buy the time Victor becomes Mr. Freeze.

** ''Alternate theory:'' They are cyborgs and became mute.

[[WMG: ''The Batman'' takes place in the same universe as ''TeenTitans'', Batman goes through 2 more Robins, and Red X (Teen Titans character) is Jason Todd.]]

[[WMG: The Batman takes place in the same universe as TeenTitans, Batman goes through 2 more Robins, and Red X (Teen Titans character) is Jason Todd.]]
Ok, this is partially based on the fact that it would all make sense. Ok, in this universe, Dick goes through the path he is seen to have gone through in Artifacts. However, in the 20 years between that and the present, Batman goes through 2 more Robins. First, Todd. However, in this universe, he doesn't die. He blames Batman for him ALMOST dying, and becomes a crook. Soon after, Batman gets a new Robin, Tim Drake. Batman trains him for a bit, and he goes to form the Titians shortly before Artifacts. Jason was at the time a small time crook, until he found out about the Red X suit. The he stole it for revenge, money, and the lulz. Also, Rumor was an experimental Slade bot, hence the voice.

[[WMG: TheBatman takes place in the same universe as TeenTitans.]]
* Killer Moth was married and had already had a daughter before he was mutated.
* Green Arrow eventually gets a sidekick, Speedy (Roy Harper).
* Flash (Barry Allen) eventually gets a sidekick, Kid Flash (Wally West).

[[WMG: The thefts committed by Mr Freeze are to finance research into restoring his wife.]]
* Implied, but never outright stated. He may not be doing the Science himself this time, but perhaps his motive is the same as his BatmanTheAnimatedSeries counterpart. It would undo some of Freeze's perceived AdaptationDecay.

[[WMG: This takes place in a divergent timeline after Batman Begins, that ignores The Dark Knight, Or was INTENDED to be an interquel.]]

** He's Batman, he most likely to have made a much better and safe version

* They never speak, they never revealed what they look like out of their skin-tight suits and they've seemed to have survived from some situations where survival seems highly unlikely. As to how Penguin obtained them, ther are three possibilities:
** 1: He found these two on one of his heists during his "tour of the Orient," stole them and had them both shipped in boxes over to Gotham where he promptly made some adjustments to them so that they would become obedient to him.
** 2: He made a deal with someone to build them for him in exchange for a large portion of the riches that he had stolen during his "tour of the Orient." (Possibly even the same person who [[{{Acrofatic}} taught him martial arts]].) Afterwards, he ended up just taking them.
** 3: He built them himself. After all, he made his own trick umbrellas; it's possible that he did, but somewhat unlikeky. However, it's not entirely impossible since he's [[SmarterThanYouLook smarter than you think]].

** 3: He built them himself. After all, he made his own trick umbrellas; it's possible that he did, but somewhat unlikeky. However, it's not entirely impossible since he's SmarterThanYouThink.

** Those factors date back decades in comics to at least ''Batman Year One''.