The Batman takes place in the same universe as Teen Titans, Batman goes through 2 more Robins, and Red X (Teen Titans character) is Jason Todd.OK, this is partially based on the fact that it would all make sense. In this universe, Dick goes through the path he is seen to have gone through in Artifacts. However, in the 20 years between that and the present, Batman goes through 2 more Robins. First, Todd. However, in this universe, he doesn't die. He blames Batman for him ALMOST dying, and becomes a crook. Soon after, Batman gets a new Robin, Tim Drake. Batman trains him for a bit, and he goes to form the Titans shortly before "Artifacts". Jason was at the time a small-time crook, until he found out about the Red X suit. Then he stole it for revenge, money, and the lulz. Also, rumor was an experimental Slade bot, hence the voice.
- Killer Moth was married and had already had a daughter before he was mutated.
- Green Arrow eventually gets a sidekick, Speedy (Roy Harper).
- Flash (Barry Allen) eventually gets a sidekick, Kid Flash (Wally West).
- Rumor is not a Slade bot, but Slade may have stolen the technology in order to create them.
The thefts committed by Mr. Freeze are to finance research into restoring his wife.
- Implied, but never outright stated. He may not be doing the Science himself this time, but perhaps his motive is the same as his Batman: The Animated Series counterpart. It would undo some of Freeze's perceived Adaptation Decay.
- Where exactly is it implied?
- In Freeze's origin episode, when pre-accident Freeze is fleeing from Batman in his car, there are photographs of him and a young woman attatched to his dashboard. However, she's never brought up throughout the rest of the series.
- Perhaps because she had already died by the time Victor became Mr. Freeze.
- If so, this creates some dark implications.
- Where exactly is it implied?
Chief Rojas left the force not long after Gordon became Commissioner.It would explain after after "Night and the City" he was never seen again, and unlike Yin, he was never mentioned again. As for why he left, here's two theories.
- Theory One: He resigned. Gordon setting up relations between the police and Batman probably clashed with his views of Batman as a vigilante who should be thrown in jail, and he resigned the force in protest and/or disgust of it.
- He was also disappointed that Ellen was working with Batman. He thought she was different from Ethan. And wasn't happy Gordon allowed Ellen back in the force.
- He must also dislikes the Justice League as well. And every metahuman for that matter.
- Alternatively, maybe he is fine with metahumans....so long as said metahumans are not vigilantes.
- He was likely displeased that Ethan is back on the force. He still holds a grudge for his pro-Batman stance and for trying to kill him.
- He's very likely disgusted when the villains are allowed to fight the Joining. He'd rather die in the hands of the aliens than be helped by the likes of the Joker.
- Theory Two: Gordon or Mayor Grange fired him. Let's be honest: Rojas was an idiot who shouldn't have been able to get very far in the force, let alone become the second-in-command of the GCPD. I mean, for God's sake, some of the Riddler's riddles were so easy, as Yin said, a two year-old could've solved them and he got a headache trying to figure them out and couldn't (the museum one comes to mind). Then again, he could also have been a Dirty Cop, too. The comment about Ethan not being able "to play ball" could very well mean Rojas was corrupt and when Rojas partnered up Ethan and Ellen, his comment about he deciding "two heads are better than one" and deciding to do so after Rupert Throne went to jail could mean that like Commissioner Loeb in Batman: Year One, Rojas began to get antsy that Batman might bust him, too.
- Or, like in the first part of Theory Two, Rojas was simply fired for being a moron so incompetent, that it practically made Cash Tankenson look smart in comparison.
This takes place in a divergent timeline after Batman Begins, that ignores The Dark Knight, Or was intended to be an interquel.
- So, I dunno how to really explain this one, but there are A LOT of similarities in the characters and things. A Young Gordon with reddish hair, a Batman who's still fairly inexperienced, a public that doesn't know if he's real or not, it adds up pretty quickly. I say divergent because the Joker appearing in the first episode quickly shunts TDK out of the way.
- Those factors date back decades in comics to at least Batman Year One. Some are even older.
- This may be the reason Scarecrow never showed up
- Also, there was no mention of Carmine Falcone in the series. Before the costumed villains showed up, the only major crime lord shown was Rubert Thorne. Then again, in this timeline, Thorne took over as boss of Carmine Falcone's crime family instead of Sal Maroni.
- Several online descriptions for DVD sales of season one would describe the series as taking place after Batman Begins. Here's one of them.
In the episode "Artifacts", Old!Batman was using Bane's Venom drug.
- He does have a tube running from his arm to his cowl, and he is awfully bulked-up. He seems to have avoided the side-effects, though, so either it's a derivation of the drug or it's a low dose.
Penguin's Kabuki twins, Peri and Gale, are androids.They never speak, they never revealed what they look like out of their skin-tight suits and they've seemed to have survived from some situations where survival seems highly unlikely. As to how Penguin obtained them, ther are three possibilities:
- 1: He found these two on one of his heists during his "tour of the Orient," stole them and had them both shipped in boxes over to Gotham where he promptly made some adjustments to them so that they would become obedient to him.
- 2: He made a deal with someone to build them for him in exchange for a large portion of the riches that he had stolen during his "tour of the Orient." (Possibly even the same person who taught him martial arts.) Afterwards, he ended up just taking them.
- 3: He built them himself. After all, he made his own trick umbrellas; it's possible that he did, but somewhat unlikeky. However, it's not entirely impossible since he's smarter than you think.
- Alternate theory: They were human until he gave them cybernetic implants, and became mute as a result.
Katar Hol is married.Hawkwoman either remained on Midway City while her husband heads to Gotham to capture Shadow Thief, or she's currently on Thanagar.
Batman lied about Clayface 1's power driving him insaneWhen Ethan makes his first aborted attempt at pulling a Heel–Face Turn, while he admits the time in Arkham has helped him overcome the trauma of being turned into Clayface, he confesses he would like to try and keep his powers so that he can use them to serve the law. Batman immediately shoots this down by insisting that Ethan will go insane whenever he uses his powers. However, at this point in time, Ethan is shown morphing his body with great skill, implying he's been practicing while still being perfectly calm and rational. Furthermore, in a future episode, he uses his power to subdue Joker without hurting him, turns him over to Batman, and then calmly turns himself in. There aren't any scenes supporting Batman's claim that Ethan using his powers would drive him insane — even in the episode in question, his final breakdown can be attributed to simple paranoia as things just kept escalating beyond his control, all because he accidentally used his powers once and would have gone right back to Arkham if the police found out. Of course, why Batman would lie to Clayface about his powers negatively affecting his mental state is another WMG.
Chief Rojas had a hand in Francis Grey's prison terms.And to make him even more of jerkass, Rojas doesn't care that he was poor and desperate to help his family, and told him "Well, that's your problem, isn't it?".
Batman is the alternate persona, and the Joker is the real Bruce Wayne, or what's left of him.Hugo Strange does some digging inside the Joker's head and while Batman is distracting clownshoes, Hugo tracks and speaks with a creepy child with Joker's face. It's easy to assume that it was just another twisted part of the Joker toying with Hugo, but when we next see the two of them they're in a hall of mirrors and its apparently been talking to Hugo, because he asks it how it coped with its parents not paying attention to it. The "Normal Guy" part of the Joker is stuck labelling everything as "INSANE" with a stamp, like a typical office drone. Perhaps it's the last rational vestige of the man left but is still convinced everything about the world is wrong and mad, and he quips that being the Joker's last piece of sanity left is his "day job", and wistfully says all he really wants is to make people laugh. Unlike most of his incarnations, this Joker actually makes a lot of puns and jokes that can be genuinely funny, and uses a gas to make people wear big smiles on their faces. Nonlethal, provided you get an antidote, just painful and paralysing. To make matters worse, the Joker came out of absolutely nowhere and, with almost no prompting, claims he and Batman are two sides to the same coin, despite only just having met each other. It's because while Batman is fooling himself, Joker knows better; they're two distinct personalities tied to the same mortal man. Occasionally Bruce and even Batman crack a joke here or there, and it seems to be when they're at their happiest. In Strange Minds, Batman is out to save Detective Yin, whom the Joker has captured and hidden somewhere. While in the Joker's mind, Batman is constantly taunted with psychic visions of Yin, some of which ask Batman why he didn't save her... just like how he feels about his parents. How would Joker know to tug on those strings? When Hugo is speaking to the child, Batman enters scene left and Hugo abruptly abandons the child and starts to question Batman. Why would he do this? Because he knows Batman and the Joker are the same person, and is curious to know what the caused the Batman persona and why it exists. The biggest piece of evidence has got to be the end of the episode, where Batman has apparently imprisoned the Joker within his batty mind for a while, and we see the Joker cowering in the corner of his cell and sobbing dreadfully as Hugo recalls his studies and findings of the Joker before remarking that he has many more roads to cross before reaching "the other side", punctuated by pushing the Joker psyche file out of the way and revealing one for Batman as well. Batman is the other side of Joker's "unique form of madness". Another interesting footnote is that when Batman takes over and fools the Joker into thinking the mindtrip is over and they rescued Yin, Batman!Hugo comments that when he was fishing through Joker's mind, "(There were) So many sad clowns..." Why would Batman think the Joker was really sad... unless he knows deep down just how sad he really is.
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