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4th Sep '17 9:26:49 PM Peteman
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She was secretly planning on warping herself into an EldritchAbomination, the likes of which only seen by ''VideoGame/PathwaysIntoDarkness''. She only was staying in that store to collect scarabs. She had no intention of helping Fox out at all, she only wanted him to give her scarabs. Scarabs with which to further her perverse plan. This plan will involve taking innocent people from the Lylat system and then separating their bodies, mind, and soul from each other, twisting them into an EldritchAbomination. Their bodies will be twisted into mechanical constructs that would be worthy of an H.R. Giger or VideoGame/DarkSeed style mindscrew. (Albeit with less phallic emphasis.) Some people will have parts removed from their bodies, and she is not one to waste them. She will graft them onto the ''next'' EldritchAbomination she creates. The minds of her victims are twisted with the pain of being separated from the soul, and are sewn into other abominations of her creation... the very scarabs that Fox was giving to her in exchange for the items she had. It is a [[AndIMustScream fate worse than death]], as these scarabs will have their will removed, only being able to think about how much they must pay her. The soul, however, from the pain inflicted on it by being separated from the mind and body, are used as the building blocks of her own dimension, an EldritchLocation. From there, the evil witch plots her next move...knowing fully well that she cannot be traced into this dimension at all, and if anyone dares follow her, they will be forced to withstand the most ''brutal'' deconstruction of the NostalgiaFilter of all time. Not only will you be forced to see your own childhood, but every trauma will be replayed to you, and any joy you had when you were a child will be twisted, perverted, and demented into a tempest of incredible horror. Even when Fox enters, he will relive everything, from the fight against Andrew to Pigma twisted into a giant monster by the Aparoids. The people who are trapped in this dimension eventually lose all semblence of humanity or anthro-nity, and their sanity, too. They are reduced to a shell of their former self, almost reduced into toys or other such stuff. Fox will encounter other expeditions sent into this dimension, with only stuff like a plush toy moaning to themselves, a deflated pool toy that was once somebody else, an expedition leader turned into an {{Unobtanium}} statue out of fear, insane people who have merely frozen in place, twisted clockwork people, people who have, out of fear, been reanimated into zombies after taking their own lives, or risking a pain worse than death, forced into a quantum immortality even as their physical form is warped into that of a demented toy or worse. The evil shopkeeper by this point had merged with this dimension, becoming something that would be most comparable to Giygas or Cthulhu. She tugs at his own sanity, as well as the sanity of everyone else, as they are forced to stand up to her, separated from their friends and comrades and forced to fight the evil demented goddess of this hellish dimension all by themselves. In their mind? Fox, Krystal, Falco, Slippy and the others? They're ''dead''. DeaderThanDead. But they do not know where they truly are... And yet Fox will be bothered because, after all, he could have prevented this, if only he had just taken out that staff and ''killed that witch'' back on Dinosaur Planet. But on the plus side, [[TheScrappy Prince Tricky]] will have been twisted into a deliberately annoying abomination and will be a mid-game boss, so I guess that balances all of the horror out.

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She was secretly planning on warping herself into an EldritchAbomination, the likes of which only seen by ''VideoGame/PathwaysIntoDarkness''. She only was staying in that store to collect scarabs. She had no intention of helping Fox out at all, she only wanted him to give her scarabs. Scarabs with which to further her perverse plan. This plan will involve taking innocent people from the Lylat system and then separating their bodies, mind, and soul from each other, twisting them into an EldritchAbomination. Their bodies will be twisted into mechanical constructs that would be worthy of an H.R. Giger or VideoGame/DarkSeed style mindscrew. (Albeit with less phallic emphasis.) Some people will have parts removed from their bodies, and she is not one to waste them. She will graft them onto the ''next'' EldritchAbomination she creates. The minds of her victims are twisted with the pain of being separated from the soul, and are sewn into other abominations of her creation... the very scarabs that Fox was giving to her in exchange for the items she had. It is a [[AndIMustScream fate worse than death]], as these scarabs will have their will removed, only being able to think about how much they must pay her. The soul, however, from the pain inflicted on it by being separated from the mind and body, are used as the building blocks of her own dimension, an EldritchLocation. From there, the evil witch plots her next move...knowing fully well that she cannot be traced into this dimension at all, and if anyone dares follow her, they will be forced to withstand the most ''brutal'' deconstruction of the NostalgiaFilter of all time. Not only will you be forced to see your own childhood, but every trauma will be replayed to you, and any joy you had when you were a child will be twisted, perverted, and demented into a tempest of incredible horror. Even when Fox enters, he will relive everything, from the fight against Andrew to Pigma twisted into a giant monster by the Aparoids. The people who are trapped in this dimension eventually lose all semblence of humanity or anthro-nity, and their sanity, too. They are reduced to a shell of their former self, almost reduced into toys or other such stuff. Fox will encounter other expeditions sent into this dimension, with only stuff like a plush toy moaning to themselves, a deflated pool toy that was once somebody else, an expedition leader turned into an {{Unobtanium}} statue out of fear, insane people who have merely frozen in place, twisted clockwork people, people who have, out of fear, been reanimated into zombies after taking their own lives, or risking a pain worse than death, forced into a quantum immortality even as their physical form is warped into that of a demented toy or worse. The evil shopkeeper by this point had merged with this dimension, becoming something that would be most comparable to Giygas or Cthulhu. She tugs at his own sanity, as well as the sanity of everyone else, as they are forced to stand up to her, separated from their friends and comrades and forced to fight the evil demented goddess of this hellish dimension all by themselves. In their mind? Fox, Krystal, Falco, Slippy and the others? They're ''dead''. DeaderThanDead. But they do not know where they truly are... And yet Fox will be bothered because, after all, he could have prevented this, if only he had just taken out that staff and ''killed that witch'' back on Dinosaur Planet. But on the plus side, [[TheScrappy Prince Tricky]] will have been twisted into a deliberately annoying abomination and will be a mid-game boss, so I guess that balances all of the horror out.
14th Aug '17 6:40:51 PM Luigifan
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* Wolf's firing of Pigma may have had more to do with his greed getting in the way of his duty to the team. He seems like an efficient guy. (There might also have been a personality clash involved - Pigma doesn't look like he'd mesh well with the Main/AffablyEvil type.) Apart from that, while they may not be bloodthirsty psychopaths, there isn't much to suggest that any of team Star Wolf is actually opposed to hurting people, so long as there's a profit to be had.
** It was stated in ''Star Fox Assault'' that Pigma was kicked out because of his overwhelming greed ind distrustful nature, so obviously there's something beyond merely his lust for money and about his actual motives that got the rest of the team on edge around him. There's also Leon's (unofficial?) comments during ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'', where he gushes over the beauties of a peaceful green planet being passed by, and how he'd love to settle down and have a family or whatnot. Then again, he ''did'' also state his desire for a Main/TheMasochismTango-style relationship with Wolf, so maybe they're more tolerant of vicious bloodsports in the bed?

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* Wolf's firing of Pigma may have had more to do with his greed getting in the way of his duty to the team. He seems like an efficient guy. (There might also have been a personality clash involved - -- Pigma doesn't look like he'd mesh well with the Main/AffablyEvil type.) Apart from that, while they may not be bloodthirsty psychopaths, there isn't much to suggest that any of team Star Wolf is actually opposed to hurting people, so long as there's a profit to be had.
** It was stated in ''Star Fox Assault'' that Pigma was kicked out because of his overwhelming greed ind distrustful nature, so obviously there's something beyond merely his lust for money and about his actual motives that got the rest of the team on edge around him. There's also Leon's (unofficial?) comments during ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'', where he gushes over the beauties of a peaceful green planet being passed by, and how he'd love to settle down and have a family or whatnot. Then again, he ''did'' also state his desire for a Main/TheMasochismTango-style TheMasochismTango-style relationship with Wolf, so maybe they're more tolerant of vicious bloodsports in the bed?



This explains the extreme and unexplained changes made to the continuity in-game: Bill's personality and voice, Kat's change in color, the inexplicable return of Star Wolf, Star Fox's breakup, Panther's sudden compulsion to [[Main/ThirdPersonPerson refer to himself in the third person]], etc. The hugely diverging storylines and endings give more credence to the fact that it's not real. The final nail in the coffin, though, is the [[Main/WordOfGod developer's own hints]] that the next canonical game will take place in the ''middle'' of ''Command'', essentially making half of the game's myriad storylines (and all of its endings) moot; this could possibly be used in the form of Fox and Star Wolf breaking out of their brainwashing and nuking the Aparoid Queen, as usual.
* What I read is that the next game would make one of the endings canonical, though I also saw that it'd take place during Command. Of course, I read this over a year ago...
* Also notable is the fact that Arwings can suddenly operate underwater with no loss in performance and the red dwarf becomes a volcanic planet for no adequately explained reason. Also notable is that the Star Fox storyline is completely stupid and ridiculous for a game based on the shallow concept of blowing shit up.
** Well, Command is pretty much accepted by many as non-existent, so as far as Assault goes, the story seems fine.

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This explains the extreme and unexplained changes made to the continuity in-game: Bill's personality and voice, Kat's change in color, the inexplicable return of Star Wolf, Star Fox's breakup, Panther's sudden compulsion to [[Main/ThirdPersonPerson [[ThirdPersonPerson refer to himself in the third person]], etc. The hugely diverging storylines and endings give more credence to the fact that it's not real. The final nail in the coffin, though, is the [[Main/WordOfGod [[WordOfGod developer's own hints]] that the next canonical game will take place in the ''middle'' of ''Command'', essentially making half of the game's myriad storylines (and all of its endings) moot; this could possibly be used in the form of Fox and Star Wolf breaking out of their brainwashing and nuking the Aparoid Queen, as usual.
* What I read is that the next game would make one of the endings canonical, though I also saw that it'd take place during Command.''Command''. Of course, I read this over a year ago...
* Also notable is the fact that Arwings can suddenly operate underwater with no loss in performance and the red dwarf becomes a volcanic planet for no adequately explained reason. Also notable is that the Star Fox ''Star Fox'' storyline is completely stupid and ridiculous for a game based on the shallow concept of blowing shit up.
** Well, Command ''Command'' is pretty much accepted by many as non-existent, so as far as Assault ''Assault'' goes, the story seems fine.



* Heck, Wolf's outfit in Brawl is similar to a person who engages hot leather and BDSM.

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* Heck, Wolf's outfit in Brawl ''Brawl'' is similar to a person who engages in hot leather and BDSM.



* This troper always saw Wolf and Leon as HeterosexualLifePartners, at least from Wolf's point of view. Leon wants to be more than that, secretly having a thing for Wolf which no one else (except for Panther) is aware of. Wolf however only sees Leon as a loyal teammate and/or a close friend.

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* This troper always saw Wolf and Leon as HeterosexualLifePartners, at least from Wolf's point of view. Leon wants to be more than that, secretly having a thing for Wolf which no one else (except for Panther) is aware of. Wolf however Wolf, however, only sees Leon as a loyal teammate and/or a close friend.



[[WMG:Fox was taking something illicit to calm his nerves for the final battle in VideoGame/StarFox64, VideoGame/StarFox1 and VideoGame/StarFox2.]]
"Whoa, dude, I can totally see a monkey's head, and it has these giant hands with those gem things from Logan's Run. Look at how everything is moving in such a psychedelic way, man. And now the head is chewing my spaceship. Oh my god, dude, I'm totally freaking out. And holy crap, I can totally see my dead father." Anyone else notice that no one is around during these fights with Andross?

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[[WMG:Fox was taking something illicit to calm his nerves for the final battle in VideoGame/StarFox64, VideoGame/StarFox1 ''VideoGame/StarFox64'', ''VideoGame/StarFox1'' and VideoGame/StarFox2.''VideoGame/StarFox2''.]]
"Whoa, dude, "[[MushroomSamba Whoa, dude]], I can totally see a monkey's head, and it has these giant hands with those gem things from Logan's Run. Look at how everything is moving in such a psychedelic way, man. And now the head is chewing my spaceship. Oh my god, dude, I'm totally freaking out. And holy crap, I can totally see my dead father." Anyone else notice that no one else is around during these fights with Andross?



** A: Fox was so under the influence whilst piloting an Arwing that he caused the whole team to get lost, when they find a way to get to Venom it's not the route they started out on. In one case, nearly overshooting their destination.

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** A: Fox was so under the influence whilst piloting an Arwing that he caused the whole team to get lost, and when they find a way to get to Venom Venom, it's not the route they started out on. In one case, nearly overshooting their destination.



* Ditto: The Astoroid Belt (Hard), to the point where he has a 'white out' and comes to [[spoiler:'Out of this Dimension']]! This doesn't explain why General Pepper can't contact the other Arwings unless...
** The other wingmen were slaughtered, as the last thing you see the white out is overwhelming firepower from the enemy. An even more sinister turn of events would be that after the white out Fox killed his own wingmen.

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* Ditto: The Astoroid Belt (Hard), to the point where he has a 'white out' and comes to [[spoiler:'Out of this Dimension']]! This doesn't explain why General Pepper can't contact the other Arwings Arwings, unless...
** The other wingmen were slaughtered, as the last thing you see before the white out is overwhelming firepower from the enemy. An even more sinister turn of events would be that after the white out out, Fox killed his own wingmen.



[[WMG:A Timelord is involved somehow in Star Fox Adventures.]]
Mostly because I thought that Krozoa possession scene too similar to the snake in bed scene from "Doctor Who: the Movie" (Where a gray transparent slimy thing enters some American guy's body and makes his eyes turn funny colors); mostly because I want an alternate (Read: "less dumb") explanation for the plot instead of just "Magic".

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[[WMG:A Timelord Time Lord is involved somehow in Star ''Star Fox Adventures.Adventures''.]]
Mostly because I thought that Krozoa possession scene too similar to the snake in bed scene from "Doctor Who: the Movie" (Where (where a gray transparent slimy thing enters some American guy's body and makes his eyes turn funny colors); mostly because I want an alternate (Read: "less dumb") explanation for the plot instead of just "Magic".



The reason that game does not marry up with the rest of the series -- which takes place in an alternate universe/reality. Fox, like his father before, got lost in an uncharted anomaly, never to be seen again. What makes this ending even more of a DownerEnding is that Fox doesn't see any of his wingmen after the incident and General Pepper is unable to contact any of the other Arwings, meaning [[spoiler:each member of the Videogame/StarFox team is trapped in separate dimensions.]] As for the fate of Corneria, it's anyone's guess.
* The implication more seems to be that the 'Andross' you face is a robot created by him (referred to as the "Core Brain"), and the real Andross is out there still... That said, VideoGame/StarFox is a flight rail shooter - the story doesn't have to make complete sense! (Andross being a huge brain makes just about as much sense as him being a box inside a face made out of panels - my personal opinion is that these are both creations of Andross, at most remotely controlled by him.)

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The reason that game does not marry up with the rest of the series -- which takes place in an alternate universe/reality. Fox, like his father before, got lost in an uncharted anomaly, never to be seen again. What makes this ending even more of a DownerEnding is that Fox doesn't see any of his wingmen after the incident and General Pepper is unable to contact any of the other Arwings, meaning [[spoiler:each member of the Videogame/StarFox team is trapped in separate dimensions.]] dimensions]]. As for the fate of Corneria, it's anyone's guess.
* The implication more seems to be that the 'Andross' you face is a robot created by him (referred to as the "Core Brain"), and the real Andross is out there still... That said, VideoGame/StarFox is a flight rail shooter - -- the story doesn't have to make complete sense! (Andross being a huge brain makes just about as much sense as him being a box inside a face made out of panels - -- my personal opinion is that these are both creations of Andross, at most remotely controlled by him.)



* Alternately, Andross didn't kill James, but instead made him human and sent him to [[EarthIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse Earth]] with a new ship. He started a family and modified his ship into a race craft. He races to provide for his family, and some day, Fox will discover the truth. Whether it [[GoMadFromTheRevelation drives him insane]] or does precisely nothing has yet to be discovered.

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* Alternately, Andross didn't kill James, but instead made him human and sent him to [[EarthIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse Earth]] with a new ship. He started a family and modified his ship into a race craft. He races to provide for his family, and some day, Fox will discover the truth. Whether it [[GoMadFromTheRevelation drives him insane]] or does precisely nothing has yet to be discovered.
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As for why Andross would mess with James like this instead of [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just killing him]], well, Andross may have thought that turning James into a full-fledged human would be AFateWorseThanDeath. Sending him off to [[EarthIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse Earth]], an unfamiliar place, would have been the icing on the cake. James also had his [[LaserGuidedAmnesia memory erased]], and he only remembers his name. The squadron "Galaxy Dog" was just a cover story, implanted in his mind just to give him a reason to own the ship he was given. However, knowledge of the G-Diffuser technology has awakened some old memories, and James is now thinking to what his life was in Lylat. He will eventually uncover the truth...



Fox ends up in a strange cosmic anomaly where he is attacked by strange two dimensional creatures that ignore the normal laws of propulsion and physics. The distant alien planets and stars undulate wildly, barely comprehensible, and he is unable to get nearer to them no matter how far he flies. In the end, he fights a giant slot machine, and it is only when he scores a 'Jackpot', symbolizing his 'victory' over his own sanity, that the creatures cease to actively fight him. Simultaneously as the distant starry background solidifies to reveal smiling, peaceful faces across the planets, welcoming him, as only then does he truly 'understand'. There is no ending, though floating letters appear to taunt him with one, eternally reset both by the denizens of this universe or his own doomed attempts to right them. Fox is doomed to forever seek his end, unable to reach it as he flies through that warped dimension for eternity. Laughing...

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Fox ends up in a strange cosmic anomaly where he is attacked by strange two dimensional two-dimensional creatures that ignore the normal laws of propulsion and physics. The distant alien planets and stars undulate wildly, barely comprehensible, and he is unable to get nearer to them no matter how far he flies. In the end, he fights a giant slot machine, and it is only when he scores a 'Jackpot', symbolizing his 'victory' over his own sanity, that the creatures cease to actively fight him. Simultaneously as the distant starry background solidifies to reveal smiling, peaceful faces across the planets, welcoming him, as only then does he truly 'understand'. There is no ending, though floating letters appear to taunt him with one, eternally reset both by the denizens of this universe or his own doomed attempts to right them. Fox is doomed to forever seek his end, unable to reach it as he flies through that warped dimension for eternity. Laughing...



Andross may have thought that turning him into a full-fledged human would be AFateWorseThanDeath. Sending him off to [[EarthIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse Earth]], an unfamiliar place, would have been the icing on the cake. James also had his [[LaserGuidedAmnesia memory erased]], and he only remembers his name. The squadron "Galaxy Dog" was just a cover story, implanted in his mind just to give him a reason to own the ship he was given. However, knowledge of the G-Diffuser technology has awakened some old memories, and James is now thinking to what his life was in Lylat. He will eventually uncover the truth...

[[WMG:Star Fox and StarWars have analogous characters]]

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Andross may have thought that turning him into a full-fledged human would be AFateWorseThanDeath. Sending him off to [[EarthIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse Earth]], an unfamiliar place, would have been the icing on the cake. James also had his [[LaserGuidedAmnesia memory erased]], and he only remembers his name. The squadron "Galaxy Dog" was just a cover story, implanted in his mind just to give him a reason to own the ship he was given. However, knowledge of the G-Diffuser technology has awakened some old memories, and James is now thinking to what his life was in Lylat. He will eventually uncover the truth...

[[WMG:Star Fox and StarWars Franchise/StarWars have analogous characters]]



[[WMG:The boss of Sector X in 64 is a prototype of Andrew's Wannabe-Andross Mecha.]]

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[[WMG:The boss of Sector X in 64 ''64'' is a prototype of Andrew's Wannabe-Andross Mecha.]]



** Yes she did! She did in the default ending of Command anyway, the one you have to get before you can choose your own path.(Maybe she'll aquire a bounty too and get shot down in a new game)
* Except he really doesn't... the only feature he shares with Wolf is that his forehead streak of white hair reaches his muzzle. That's it. Otherwise he's a dead ringer for Fox, but with blue fur. Granted the game's art style did make everyone look somewhat unusual. Also, Krystal ''definitely'' [[ItsNotYouItsMyEnemies did not]] [[WomanScorned join]] [[OperationJealousy because of Panther]].

[[WMG:The Lylat System is in the same setting as F-Zero.]]
James being in F-Zero is simply because he faked his death at the hands of Andross to get a better shot at him. His son managed to do it instead, and he comes out of hiding to save him at the end of Star Fox 64. Seeing that he'd effectively passed the torch, he moved on to explore the galaxy.

As for why everyone in Star Fox is furry? Fox is mentally disturbed. Everyone is relatively humanoid, but we see the world through Fox's eyes, and he thinks everyone is an anthropomorphic animal. That's why he's a Fox named Fox, he's a human named Fox with delusions.

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** Yes she did! She did in the default ending of Command ''Command'', anyway, the one you have to get before you can choose your own path.path. (Maybe she'll aquire a bounty too and get shot down in a new game)
game.)
* Except he really doesn't... the only feature he shares with Wolf is that his forehead streak of white hair reaches his muzzle. That's it. Otherwise he's a dead ringer for Fox, but with blue fur. Granted Granted, the game's art style did make everyone look somewhat unusual. Also, Krystal ''definitely'' [[ItsNotYouItsMyEnemies did not]] [[WomanScorned join]] [[OperationJealousy because of Panther]].

[[WMG:The Lylat System is in the same setting as F-Zero.''F-Zero''.]]
James being in F-Zero is simply because he faked his death at the hands of Andross to get a better shot at him. His son managed to do it instead, and he comes out of hiding to save him at the end of Star ''Star Fox 64. 64''. Seeing that he'd effectively [[PassingTheTorch passed the torch, torch]], he moved on to explore the galaxy.

As for why everyone in Star Fox ''Star Fox'' is furry? Fox is mentally disturbed. Everyone is relatively humanoid, but we see the world through Fox's eyes, and he thinks everyone is an anthropomorphic animal. That's why he's a Fox named Fox, he's a human named Fox with delusions.



** Heck, maybe he got there using the [[CommandAndConquerRedAlert Chronosphere]]

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** Heck, maybe he got there using the [[CommandAndConquerRedAlert Chronosphere]]
[[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerRedAlert Chronosphere]].



* Perhaps the fact that Pigma, canonically the one who killed James [=McCloud=], later joined Star Wolf isn't just coincidence? While Wolf would probably have preferred to kill James himself, he probably couldn't resist the idea of bribing one of James's own teammates to backstab him. It was only after he started hanging around with Pigma that Wolf started to hate him. Remember that the WorthyOpponent stuff is mostly from Assault onwards, too, so while Star Fox 64 Wolf may have tolerated Pigma, Assault Wolf probably couldn't stand him.

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* Perhaps the fact that Pigma, canonically the one who killed James [=McCloud=], later joined Star Wolf isn't just coincidence? While Wolf would probably have preferred to kill James himself, he probably couldn't resist the idea of bribing one of James's own teammates to backstab him. It was only after he started hanging around with Pigma that Wolf started to hate him. Remember that the WorthyOpponent stuff is mostly from Assault ''Assault'' onwards, too, so while Star ''Star Fox 64 64'' Wolf may have tolerated Pigma, Assault ''Assault'' Wolf probably couldn't stand him.



In the original VideoGame/StarFox game, Pepper says that James flew into a Black Hole and was never seen again. But, in reality, James ascended after the Black Hole, he obtained new abilities, he rewrote Reality into Star Fox 64 in an attempt to raise the son he was never around, but he couldn't, so he faked his death at the hands of Andross, who tried to kill him to make sure that a RealityWarper didn't get in the way of his plot, but when Fox was in trouble, James, being his father, decided to try and help Fox in his darkest hour; afterwards, he disappeared again, trying not to make any other appearances until he's needed.

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In the original VideoGame/StarFox ''VideoGame/StarFox'' game, Pepper says that James flew into a Black Hole and was never seen again. But, in reality, James ascended after the Black Hole, he obtained new abilities, he abilities. He rewrote Reality reality into Star ''Star Fox 64 64'' in an attempt to raise the son he was never around, but he couldn't, so he faked his death at the hands of Andross, who tried to kill him to make sure that a RealityWarper didn't get in the way of his plot, but when Fox was in trouble, James, being his father, decided to try and help Fox in his darkest hour; afterwards, he disappeared again, trying not to make any other appearances until he's needed.



* Before his attack on Lylat, Andross was a neuroscientist who suffered brain damage through some sort of accident. During his career, he invented a serum that would cause the re-growth of brain cells in the hopes of curing his own brain damage by replacing his damaged cells with healthy ones without surgery. Recklessly, he gave the serum to himself. It worked; but his brain cells wouldn't stop growing, to the point where his brain would have burst out of his skull if not dealt with in time. He then had his brain removed and placed in a nutrient vat, where the isolation and artificial neuron growth made him go mad as his brain grew to massive proportions. Eventually, the serum wore off, and he had a giant robot head built to house his enormous brain, as well as a pair of hands.

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* Before his attack on Lylat, Andross was a neuroscientist who suffered brain damage through some sort of accident. During his career, he invented a serum that would cause the re-growth of brain cells in the hopes of curing his own brain damage by replacing his damaged cells with healthy ones without surgery. Recklessly, [[ProfessorGuineaPig he gave the serum to himself. himself]]. It worked; worked, [[GoneHorriblyRight but his brain cells wouldn't stop growing, growing]], to the point where his brain would have burst out of his skull if not dealt with in time. He then had his brain removed and placed in a nutrient vat, where the isolation and artificial neuron growth made him go mad as his brain grew to massive proportions. Eventually, the serum wore off, and he had a giant robot head built to house his enormous brain, as well as a pair of hands.



In the original VideoGame/StarFox, there was a bonus level called 'The Black Hole', where James appeared to died, but after the level, you get teleported to Venom. I personally think it was a WORMhole, not a BLACK hole. BLACK holes are space vacuums, and WORMholes are like intergalactic highways. So essentially, [[spoiler:James's ghost didn't help his son in VideoGame/StarFox 64, that was James IN THE FLESH. Well, more like in the fur, but still!]]

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In the original VideoGame/StarFox, ''VideoGame/StarFox'', there was a bonus level called 'The Black Hole', where James appeared to died, die, but after the level, you get teleported to Venom. I personally think it was a WORMhole, not a BLACK hole. BLACK holes are space vacuums, and WORMholes are like intergalactic highways. So essentially, [[spoiler:James's ghost didn't help his son in VideoGame/StarFox 64, that was James IN THE FLESH. Well, more like in the fur, but still!]]



* This explains why Fara supposedly resembles Fox's mother - Vixy did, at one point, cheat on James with an aspiring entrepreneur (likely while he was away for longer than it would take her to deliver). As she could not admit to the child's existence she left her to the care of her father, however built ties to the Phoenix family - explaining, for instance, why Fara was immediately recognised by Fox (he had seen her before) or why he was chosen, out of exile, to test Mr Phoenix's prototype Arwing fighters.\\
Eventually, however, Fox and Fara discovered their family status - likely by a time at which point they already had a more intimate relationship. Disgusted by the unwitting BrotherSisterIncest they agreed to part ways.\\
CanonWelding results in this occurence: Fox [=McCloud=] eventually arrives on Sauria, without a girlfriend, and leaves the planet with one that looks highly different from his mother.

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* This explains why Fara supposedly resembles Fox's mother - -- Vixy did, at one point, cheat on James with an aspiring entrepreneur (likely while he was away for longer than it would take her to deliver). As she could not admit to the child's existence existence, she left her to the care of her father, however however, built ties to the Phoenix family - -- explaining, for instance, why Fara was immediately recognised by Fox (he had seen her before) or why he was chosen, out of exile, to test Mr Mr. Phoenix's prototype Arwing fighters.\\
Eventually, however, Fox and Fara discovered their family status - -- likely by a time at which point they already had a more intimate relationship. Disgusted by the unwitting BrotherSisterIncest BrotherSisterIncest, they agreed to part ways.\\
CanonWelding results in this occurence: occurrence: Fox [=McCloud=] eventually arrives on Sauria, without a girlfriend, and leaves the planet with one that looks highly different from his mother.



[[WMG: Star Fox 64 3DS is the beginning of a series reboot.]]

They saw the complaints about Adventures and Assault, and that most of the fanbase hates Krystal. As such, they decided to retcon Krystal and the games she was in out of existence. The series is starting over.
* Agreed, Krystal is very divisive, and [[DamselScrappy pretty unpopular]] at least in Japan. But she remains [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff wildly popular]] in the West, with most [[BrokenBase anti-Krystal fans]] being pre-''Adventures'' fans, female fans and the [[LGBTFanbase gay fandom.]] The topic of Krystal is a HolyWar, where her {{Fandom}} and {{Hatedom}} [[InternetBackdraft cannot compromise and cannot coexist peacefully]]. So it seems likely that no matter what the creators decide to do, [[UnpleasableFanbase someone will be very unhappy with it]].

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[[WMG: Star ''Star Fox 64 3DS 3DS'' is the beginning of a series reboot.]]

They saw the complaints about Adventures ''Adventures'' and Assault, ''Assault'', and that most of the fanbase hates Krystal. As such, they decided to retcon Krystal and the games she was in out of existence. The series is starting over.
* Agreed, Krystal is very divisive, and [[DamselScrappy pretty unpopular]] at least in Japan. But she remains [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff wildly popular]] in the West, with most [[BrokenBase anti-Krystal fans]] being pre-''Adventures'' fans, female fans fans, and the [[LGBTFanbase gay fandom.]] The topic of Krystal is a HolyWar, where her {{Fandom}} and {{Hatedom}} [[InternetBackdraft cannot compromise and cannot coexist peacefully]]. So it seems likely that no matter what the creators decide to do, [[UnpleasableFanbase someone will be very unhappy with it]].



* I'd have to completely agree, seeing as they completely pretty much screwed over all characters in Command.
* While Starfox 64 3D is not a reboot, the next installment in the series, ''VideoGame/StarfoxZero'' is, though Yusuke Hashimoto of Creator/PlatinumGames [[https://mobile.twitter.com/PG_y_hashimoto/status/634182551439933440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw has expressed interest in bringing her back for a sequel if they make one.]]

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* I'd have to completely agree, seeing as they completely pretty much screwed over all characters in Command.
''Command''.
* While Starfox ''Star Fox 64 3D 3D'' is not a reboot, the next installment in the series, ''VideoGame/StarfoxZero'' ''VideoGame/StarFoxZero'' is, though Yusuke Hashimoto of Creator/PlatinumGames [[https://mobile.twitter.com/PG_y_hashimoto/status/634182551439933440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw has expressed interest in bringing her back for a sequel if they make one.]]]]



[[WMG:James is an Immortal]]
ala ''Highlander''. Andross killed him after he helped Peppy escape, but didn't cut his head off, so James was able to escape when no one thought to keep an eye on his body. James just lurks around Venom in his Arwing because he knows he has no way to explain why he's still alive. James uses his ''sword? what sword?'' powers (from the series if not the movie) to hide his Arwing, which is why no one can see him. And the reason Fox can sometimes see James when no one else can...well, he's an Immortal too. But he doesn't know it/hasn't died yet, so he doesn't understand why he keeps 'hallucinating' that his dad has been helping him all those times.

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[[WMG:James is an Immortal]]
Immortal ala ''Highlander''. ''Film/{{Highlander}}''.]]
Andross killed him after he helped Peppy escape, but didn't cut his head off, so James was able to escape when no one thought to keep an eye on his body. James just lurks around Venom in his Arwing because he knows he has no way to explain why he's still alive. James uses his ''sword? what sword?'' powers (from the series if not the movie) to hide his Arwing, which is why no one can see him. And the reason Fox can sometimes see James when no one else can...well, he's an Immortal too. But he doesn't know it/hasn't died yet, so he doesn't understand why he keeps 'hallucinating' that his dad has been helping him all those times.



Several thousand years before the events of the first game, a Cerinian ended up in the Lylat system and had children with one of the people there. Over time, the Cerinian traits would slowly disappear, but would still remain dormant in the ones who had it. This is how Fox is able to use Krystal's staff and be able to pass the tests of the Krazoa. It also explain how he can see James while the others can't.

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Several thousand years before the events of the first game, a Cerinian ended up in the Lylat system and had children with one of the people there. Over time, the Cerinian traits would slowly disappear, but would still remain dormant in the ones who had it. This is how Fox is able to use Krystal's staff and be able to pass the tests of the Krazoa. It also explain explains how he can see James while the others can't.




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** {{Jossed}}.



She was secretly planning on warping herself into an EldritchAbomination, the likes of which only seen by ''VideoGame/PathwaysIntoDarkness''. She only was staying in that store to collect scarabs. She had no intention of helping Fox out at all, she only wanted him to give her scarabs. Scarabs with which to further her perverse plan. This plan will involve taking innocent people from the Lylat system and then separating their bodies, mind, and soul from each other, twisting them into an EldritchAbomination. Their bodies will be twisted into mechanical constructs that would be worthy of an H.R. Giger or VideoGame/DarkSeed style mindscrew. (Albeit with less phallic emphasis). Some people will have parts removed from their bodies, and she is not one to waste them. She will graft them onto the ''next'' EldritchAbomination she creates. The minds of her victims are twisted with the pain of being separated from the soul, and are sewn into other abominations of her creation... the very scarabs that Fox was giving to her in exchange for the items she had. It is a [[AndIMustScream fate worse than death]], as these scarabs will have their will removed, only being able to think about how much they must pay her. The soul, however, from the pain inflicted on it by being separated from the mind and body, are used as the building blocks of her own dimension, an EldritchLocation. From there, the evil witch plots her next move...knowing fully well that she cannot be traced into this dimension at all, and if anyone dares follow her, they will be forced to withstand the most ''brutal'' deconstruction of the NostalgiaFilter of all time. Not only will you be forced to see your own childhood, but every trauma will be replayed to you, and any joy you had when you were a child will be twisted, perverted, and demented into a tempest of incredible horror. Even when Fox enters, he will relive everything, from the fight against Andrew to Pigma twisted into a giant monster by the Aparoids. The people who are trapped in this dimension eventually lose all semblence of humanity or anthro-nity, and their sanity, too. They are reduced to a shell of their former self, almost reduced into toys or other such stuff. Fox will encounter other expeditions sent into this dimension, with only stuff like a plush toy moaning to themselves, a deflated pool toy that was once somebody else, an expedition leader turned into an {{Unobtanium}} statue out of fear, insane people who have merely frozen in place, twisted clockwork people, people who have, out of fear, been reanimated into zombies after taking their own lives, or risking a pain worse than death, forced into a quantum immortality even as their physical form is warped into that of a demented toy or worse. The evil shopkeeper by this point had merged with this dimension, becoming something that would be most comparable to Giygas or Cthulhu. She tugs at his own sanity, as well as the sanity of everyone else, as they are forced to stand up to her, separated from their friends and comrades and forced to fight the evil demented goddess of this hellish dimension all by themselves. In their mind? Fox, Krystal, Falco, Slippy and the others? They're ''dead''. DeaderThanDead. But they do not know where they truly are... And yet Fox will be bothered because, after all, he could have prevented this, if only he had just taken out that staff and ''killed that witch'' back on Dinosaur Planet. But on the plus side, [[TheScrappy Prince Tricky]] will have been twisted into a deliberately annoying abomination and will be a mid-game boss, so I guess that balances all of the horror out.
* You seem to have thought about this for some time.... Actually, when you think of it, Star Fox Command may be part of her sick-mind games that she inflicts on Fox. Also it could also be that the Krazoa Spirits were collaborating with the shopkeeper from the start, along with General Scales, to deliberately set Fox onward on his quest on Dinosaur Planet. General Scales, as the shopkeeper's right-hand man, threatened Dinosaur Planet in order to lure the Star Fox team to Dinosaur Planet; while the Krazoa Spirits set Fox upon a complex quest to gather scarabs for there master, disguised as a quest to save Krystal and bring Dinosaur Planet back together. In the end, the shopkeeper used some of the newly amassed scarabs to draw up enough power to create a decoy enemy to avert any suspession from herself, and crafted this decoy enemy in the shape of Andross from Fox's memories. In this way, General Scales could fake his death and return back to his master alive; and later to further make sure that she would not be opposed, she created the Aparoids to weaken the Lylat system's military forces. It is still up in the air if there is any hope of stopping her now at her full power though...
*** Actually I kinda just improvised that all as I went along - but your theory makes just as much sense there, heehee.

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She was secretly planning on warping herself into an EldritchAbomination, the likes of which only seen by ''VideoGame/PathwaysIntoDarkness''. She only was staying in that store to collect scarabs. She had no intention of helping Fox out at all, she only wanted him to give her scarabs. Scarabs with which to further her perverse plan. This plan will involve taking innocent people from the Lylat system and then separating their bodies, mind, and soul from each other, twisting them into an EldritchAbomination. Their bodies will be twisted into mechanical constructs that would be worthy of an H.R. Giger or VideoGame/DarkSeed style mindscrew. (Albeit with less phallic emphasis). emphasis.) Some people will have parts removed from their bodies, and she is not one to waste them. She will graft them onto the ''next'' EldritchAbomination she creates. The minds of her victims are twisted with the pain of being separated from the soul, and are sewn into other abominations of her creation... the very scarabs that Fox was giving to her in exchange for the items she had. It is a [[AndIMustScream fate worse than death]], as these scarabs will have their will removed, only being able to think about how much they must pay her. The soul, however, from the pain inflicted on it by being separated from the mind and body, are used as the building blocks of her own dimension, an EldritchLocation. From there, the evil witch plots her next move...knowing fully well that she cannot be traced into this dimension at all, and if anyone dares follow her, they will be forced to withstand the most ''brutal'' deconstruction of the NostalgiaFilter of all time. Not only will you be forced to see your own childhood, but every trauma will be replayed to you, and any joy you had when you were a child will be twisted, perverted, and demented into a tempest of incredible horror. Even when Fox enters, he will relive everything, from the fight against Andrew to Pigma twisted into a giant monster by the Aparoids. The people who are trapped in this dimension eventually lose all semblence of humanity or anthro-nity, and their sanity, too. They are reduced to a shell of their former self, almost reduced into toys or other such stuff. Fox will encounter other expeditions sent into this dimension, with only stuff like a plush toy moaning to themselves, a deflated pool toy that was once somebody else, an expedition leader turned into an {{Unobtanium}} statue out of fear, insane people who have merely frozen in place, twisted clockwork people, people who have, out of fear, been reanimated into zombies after taking their own lives, or risking a pain worse than death, forced into a quantum immortality even as their physical form is warped into that of a demented toy or worse. The evil shopkeeper by this point had merged with this dimension, becoming something that would be most comparable to Giygas or Cthulhu. She tugs at his own sanity, as well as the sanity of everyone else, as they are forced to stand up to her, separated from their friends and comrades and forced to fight the evil demented goddess of this hellish dimension all by themselves. In their mind? Fox, Krystal, Falco, Slippy and the others? They're ''dead''. DeaderThanDead. But they do not know where they truly are... And yet Fox will be bothered because, after all, he could have prevented this, if only he had just taken out that staff and ''killed that witch'' back on Dinosaur Planet. But on the plus side, [[TheScrappy Prince Tricky]] will have been twisted into a deliberately annoying abomination and will be a mid-game boss, so I guess that balances all of the horror out.
* You seem to have thought about this for some time.... Actually, when you think of it, Star ''Star Fox Command Command'' may be part of her sick-mind games that she inflicts on Fox. Also it could also be that the Krazoa Spirits were collaborating with the shopkeeper from the start, along with General Scales, to deliberately set Fox onward on his quest on Dinosaur Planet. General Scales, as the shopkeeper's right-hand man, threatened Dinosaur Planet in order to lure the Star Fox team to Dinosaur Planet; while the Krazoa Spirits set Fox upon a complex quest to gather scarabs for there their master, disguised as a quest to save Krystal and bring Dinosaur Planet back together. In the end, the shopkeeper used some of the newly amassed scarabs to draw up enough power to create a decoy enemy to avert any suspession from herself, and crafted this decoy enemy in the shape of Andross from Fox's memories. In this way, General Scales could fake his death and return back to his master alive; and later to further make sure that she would not be opposed, she created the Aparoids to weaken the Lylat system's military forces. It is still up in the air if there is any hope of stopping her now at her full power though...
*** Actually I kinda just improvised that all as I went along - -- but your theory makes just as much sense there, heehee.



This explains why the characters differ a bit in personality and other traits such as accents. Panther being a rather good example of this. Also, they used the art work from the original Star Fox for the team members at the beginning of Command, which could be a hit toward the place of the game in canon.

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This explains why the characters differ a bit in personality and other traits such as accents. accents, Panther being a rather good example of this. Also, they used the art work artwork from the original Star Fox ''Star Fox'' for the team members at the beginning of Command, ''Command'', which could be a hit toward the place of the game in canon.



James after seeing Peppy Hare was safely away and realizing he was dead either way decided to take out as many of Andross's ships as possible and tricked them into flying into the black hole by flying close enough to the gravitational field to pull in the bigger ships chasing him. It was mostly though sheer luck he survived. After the time dilation wore off he found himself in the middle of the battle over Venom and after seeing what he assumed to be a military force sent to stop Andross's planned invasion engaging Venom's forces. He then used the confusion to enter the path to Venom's core where he arrived in time to see his son destroy Andross and then lead him out of the core. Then deciding that his son was his own man now and didn't need his father anymore, he maneuvered his Arwing into Fox's blind spot and then made a run across the surface of Venom until he was out of range. James decided to roam the galaxy as a gun for hire, eventually becoming a race car driver on a distant planet. Slight variation of the a theory above in which it was a wormhole instead of a black hole.

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James James, after seeing Peppy Hare was safely away and realizing he was dead either way way, decided to take out as many of Andross's ships as possible and tricked them into flying into the black hole by flying close enough to the gravitational field to pull in the bigger ships chasing him. It was mostly though sheer luck he survived. After the time dilation wore off off, he found himself in the middle of the battle over Venom and after Venom. After seeing what he assumed to be a military force sent to stop Andross's planned invasion engaging Venom's forces. He forces, he then used the confusion to enter the path to Venom's core core, where he arrived in time to see his son destroy Andross and then lead him out of the core. Then deciding that his son was his own man now and didn't need his father anymore, he maneuvered his Arwing into Fox's blind spot and then made a run across the surface of Venom until he was out of range. James decided to roam the galaxy as a gun for hire, eventually becoming a race car driver on a distant planet. Slight variation of the a theory above in which it was a wormhole instead of a black hole.



Wolf grew up on the streets in a similar fashion to Falco and met James [=McCloud=] (or maybe heard of him depending on how legendary James's reputation was at the time) and decided he wanted to fly with him. James turned him down for any number of reasons, ranging from Wolf being to young to James's disliking his methods. Wolf became bitter about being turned down and when he learned of James's death Wolf kept his grudge against team Star Fox as a whole. Which is why he has a rivalry with Fox.

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Wolf grew up on the streets in a similar fashion to Falco and met James [=McCloud=] (or maybe heard of him depending on how legendary James's reputation was at the time) and decided he wanted to fly with him. James turned him down for any number of reasons, ranging from Wolf being to young to James's disliking his methods. Wolf became bitter about being turned down down, and when he learned of James's death death, Wolf kept his grudge against team Star Fox as a whole. Which is why he has a rivalry with Fox.



* You know the guys who made: GunstarHeroes, ''VideoGame/{{Ikaruga}}'', Sin&Punishment? They have the skills to actually make a good Star Fox! Also, I would to see some a lot ShoutOut, like they always do.

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* You know the guys who made: GunstarHeroes, ''VideoGame/GunstarHeroes'', ''VideoGame/{{Ikaruga}}'', Sin&Punishment? ''VideoGame/SinAndPunishment''? They have the skills to actually make a good Star Fox! ''Star Fox''! Also, I would to see some a lot ShoutOut, of {{Shout Out}}s, like they always do.
** {{Jossed}}, Creator/PlatinumGames handled it instead.



It is what she does in the default ending of Star Fox Command, to be with her beloved Panther. If Star Fox does not become a power trio she'll probably be replaced by Amanda or Kat. New characters are a possibility too.
* Except she only joined because Fox disbanded Star Fox and she assumed he didn't really love her... which obviously wouldn't be the case should they make a proper follow-up (also, the suggested endings where they reunite beat those where they don't by at least a margin of one, plus the game's implied CanonDiscontinuity status). Beloved nothing, Panther only came into the picture because of OperationJealousy. That and... well the Kursed ending suggests that the only logical result of her joining Star Wolf is being branded a traitor and forced to leave, and she never seemed thrilled to be around Panther anyway (she barely acknowledges he exists despite being "his love").

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It is what she does in the default ending of Star ''Star Fox Command, Command'', to be with her beloved Panther. If Star Fox does not become a power trio trio, she'll probably be replaced by Amanda or Kat. New characters are a possibility too.
* Except she only joined because Fox disbanded Star Fox and she assumed he didn't really love her... which obviously wouldn't be the case should they make a proper follow-up (also, the suggested endings where they reunite beat those where they don't by at least a margin of one, plus the game's implied CanonDiscontinuity status). Beloved nothing, Panther only came into the picture because of OperationJealousy. That That, and... well well, the Kursed ending suggests that the only logical result of her joining Star Wolf is being branded a traitor and forced to leave, and she never seemed thrilled to be around Panther anyway (she barely acknowledges he exists despite being "his love").



* Alternatively, [[spoiler: reproductive cloning is not too uncommon in Lylat, might also explain why Slippy's mom never appears]]
* Expanding on the above: Vixy was [[spoiler:the scientist responsible for Fox Sr/James's cloning, and working at the Academy - which also explains how Andross got to know her in the first place.]]
** So basically the [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid Les Enfants Terribles]] project of the Lylat System? Now that you mention it, Wolf does have a British accent, who possibly got all of James' dominant genes while Fox got all the recessive ones, making him the Liquid Snake to Fox's Solid. That just leaves the question, who was the perfect clone of James
*** The perfect clone of James is quite possibly [[spoiler:whoever appears at the end of Star Fox 64, assuming James was KilledOffForReal.]]

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* Alternatively, [[spoiler: reproductive [[spoiler:reproductive cloning is not too uncommon in Lylat, Lylat; might also explain why Slippy's mom never appears]]
appears]].
* Expanding on the above: Vixy was [[spoiler:the scientist responsible for Fox Sr/James's cloning, and working at the Academy - -- which also explains how Andross got to know her in the first place.]]
place]].
** So basically So, basically, the [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid Les Enfants Terribles]] project of the Lylat System? Now that you mention it, Wolf does have a British accent, who possibly got all of James' dominant genes while Fox got all the recessive ones, making him the Liquid Snake to Fox's Solid. That just leaves the question, who was the perfect clone of James
James.
*** The perfect clone of James is quite possibly [[spoiler:whoever appears at the end of Star Fox 64, assuming James was KilledOffForReal.]]
KilledOffForReal]].



[[WMG: [[RuleOfThree And another alternate]]: The next star fox game will play similarly to the VideoGame/{{Hitman}} series.]]

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[[WMG: [[RuleOfThree And another alternate]]: The next star fox Star Fox game will play similarly to the VideoGame/{{Hitman}} series.]]



But some of them might get a fleshed out personality or just a drastic change altogether.

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But some of them might get a fleshed out fleshed-out personality or just a drastic change altogether.




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* Confirmed.



We're all thinking it. There are nine different endings, and there's no confirmation as to which is canon. Personally, I like Ending 2 (the one with the next-gen Star Fox, since that could provide a very good premise for a future game), but who knows if it's canon? So, Nintendo's probably gonna reboot the series with the Wii U entry and declare ''Adventures'', ''Assault'', and ''Command'' AllJustADream.

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We're all thinking it. There are nine different endings, and there's no confirmation as to which is canon. Personally, I like Ending 2 (the one with the next-gen Star Fox, ''Star Fox'', since that could provide a very good premise for a future game), but who knows if it's canon? So, Nintendo's probably gonna reboot the series with the Wii U entry and declare ''Adventures'', ''Assault'', and ''Command'' AllJustADream.



Hence why the never appear or are mentioned in any games. Venomian propoganda falsely pinned the blame for the experiment's failure on the Cornerians, supposedly to prevent Andross from realizing his true potential as ruler of Lylat. Andrew believed this and became a loyal follower of his uncle, while Dash discovered the truth and enlisted in the Cornerian Defense Force to get revenge.

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Hence why the they never appear or are mentioned in any games. Venomian propoganda falsely pinned the blame for the experiment's failure on the Cornerians, supposedly to prevent Andross from realizing his true potential as ruler of Lylat. Andrew believed this and became a loyal follower of his uncle, while Dash discovered the truth and enlisted in the Cornerian Defense Force to get revenge.



[[WMG: Falco is Asexual.]]
As confirmed in-game and in his backstory, Falco has no interest in having a girlfriend and would rather be alone. For many fans, they've taken this to mean that Falco is gay. But Falco may in fact be neither. He's not straight, but he's not homosexual either. He just doesn't have any interest in sex or relationships. After all, just because a male expresses no interest in females doesn't automatically make them gay. Falco hasn't shown or expressed any interest in guys, either. Being asexual is incredibly rare, but of the main protagonists Falco is the only one without an established love interest. And all the material featuring him not only do ''not'' give him a love interest, but they emphasize his lack of interest in general. This lack of interest overall may be a sign that Falco has other interests besides sex and relationships, this indicating asexuality.

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[[WMG: Falco is Asexual.[[{{Asexuality}} Asexual]].]]
As confirmed in-game and in his backstory, Falco has no interest in having a girlfriend and would rather be alone. For many fans, they've taken this to mean that Falco is gay. But Falco may in fact be neither. He's not straight, but he's not homosexual either. He just doesn't have any interest in sex or relationships. After all, just because a male expresses no interest in females doesn't automatically make them gay. Falco hasn't shown or expressed any interest in guys, either. Being asexual is incredibly rare, but of the main protagonists protagonists, Falco is the only one without an established love interest. And all the material featuring him not only do ''not'' give him a love interest, but they emphasize his lack of interest in general. This lack of interest overall may be a sign that Falco has other interests besides sex and relationships, this indicating asexuality.



There is a conflict that the team doesn't really like to talk about, and as a result, never told Krystal about: the Second Lylat War (the events of ''Star Fox 2''). During the conflict, Fox recruited three female pilots: Fay, Miyu, and Fara. The formed "Amazon Squadron", and flew against the reformed Venomian Army. Sadly, all three perished at the hands of Star Wolf a week after Andross' second defeat.

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There is a conflict that the team doesn't really like to talk about, and as a result, never told Krystal about: the Second Lylat War (the events of ''Star Fox 2''). During the conflict, Fox recruited three female pilots: Fay, Miyu, and Fara. The They formed "Amazon Squadron", and flew against the reformed Venomian Army. Sadly, all three perished at the hands of Star Wolf a week after Andross' second defeat.



* Considering the quick mention of Sauria in ''The Battle Begins'', it could canonically fit as a prequel depending of what happens in this game, namely if there are no Andross fight. It would also be a great opportunity to flesh-out General Scales and actually make him the BigBad of this game, without being [[HijackedByGanon Hijacked by Andross]].

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* Considering the quick mention of Sauria in ''The Battle Begins'', it could canonically fit as a prequel depending of what happens in this game, namely if there are is no Andross fight. It would also be a great opportunity to flesh-out General Scales and actually make him the BigBad of this game, without being [[HijackedByGanon Hijacked by Andross]].
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* While Starfox 64 3D is not a reboot, the next installment in the series, ''VideoGame/StarfoxZero'' is, though Yusuke Hashimoto of Creator/PlatinumGames [[https://mobile.twitter.com/PG_y_hashimoto/status/634182551439933440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw has expressed interest in bringing her back for a sequel if they make one.]]
10th Jun '17 1:48:59 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Creator/{{Treasure}} will tackle the next Star Fox game on the WiiU.]]

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[[WMG: Creator/{{Treasure}} will tackle the next Star Fox game on the WiiU.UsefulNotes/WiiU.]]
30th Jul '16 8:22:09 AM Anddrix
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* Agreed, [[BaseBreaker Krystal]] is very divisive, and [[DamselScrappy pretty unpopular]] at least in Japan. But she remains [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff wildly popular]] in the West, with most [[BrokenBase anti-Krystal fans]] being pre-''Adventures'' fans, female fans and the [[LGBTFanbase gay fandom.]] The topic of Krystal is a HolyWar, where her {{Fandom}} and {{Hatedom}} [[InternetBackdraft cannot compromise and cannot coexist peacefully]]. So it seems likely that no matter what the creators decide to do, [[UnpleasableFanbase someone will be very unhappy with it]].

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* Agreed, [[BaseBreaker Krystal]] Krystal is very divisive, and [[DamselScrappy pretty unpopular]] at least in Japan. But she remains [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff wildly popular]] in the West, with most [[BrokenBase anti-Krystal fans]] being pre-''Adventures'' fans, female fans and the [[LGBTFanbase gay fandom.]] The topic of Krystal is a HolyWar, where her {{Fandom}} and {{Hatedom}} [[InternetBackdraft cannot compromise and cannot coexist peacefully]]. So it seems likely that no matter what the creators decide to do, [[UnpleasableFanbase someone will be very unhappy with it]].



To continue the 3rd timelime initiated by ''VideoGame/StarFoxZero'', a remake of ''VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures'' will eventually be made. But this time, and partially because of the BaseBreaker status of ''Adventures'', Krystal, and sadly even ''Zero'', it will be considered a SpinOff with almost no mention of the Star Fox team. It will be closer to the original N64 ''Dinosaur Planet'' prototype, Krystal will actually be the main character this time, no more half-arsed Arwing sequence to justify the title, and only at the end would she meet Fox and the others. Consider it the beginning of the "Star Fox Videoludic Universe".

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To continue the 3rd timelime initiated by ''VideoGame/StarFoxZero'', a remake of ''VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures'' will eventually be made. But this time, and partially because of the BaseBreaker divisive status of ''Adventures'', Krystal, and sadly even ''Zero'', it will be considered a SpinOff with almost no mention of the Star Fox team. It will be closer to the original N64 ''Dinosaur Planet'' prototype, Krystal will actually be the main character this time, no more half-arsed Arwing sequence to justify the title, and only at the end would she meet Fox and the others. Consider it the beginning of the "Star Fox Videoludic Universe".
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* Even the names of their starfighters are similar. Maybe the Arwing [[WritingAroundTrademarks is supposed to be "R-Wing?"]]
3rd Jun '16 10:47:36 PM MarkWilder
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[[WMG:Fox is [[BiTheWay pansexual]] and [[{{Polyamory}} polyamorous]].]]
But not for AnythingThatMoves. He actually has a fairly passionate heart and [[UnresolvedSexualTension can fall in love rather easily]] if the chemistry is right. He probably has a separate [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend semi-casual]] [[FriendsWithBenefits non-exclusive]] [[YaoiGuys relationship]] each with Falco and Wolf, but probably [[ThePowerOfLove truly loves them]] too. There are variations of this theory with my friends -- some say just with Falco, some say just with Wolf, or some say Fox really does nail AnythingThatMoves.

[[WMG:Falco is StraightGay.]]
I mean, there are certainly many canonical details that suggest its plausibility, but [[{{Fanon}} my theory solidifies it]], so this has relatively more confidence than ordinary {{WMG}}. You see, he and Katt are more LikeBrotherAndSister, and they care about each other and love each other [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend in that capacity]] -- this is PlayedStraight. Falco is Katt's GayBestFriend, but for a long time Katt [[SingleTargetSexuality was strongly in love with Falco]], [[IncompatibleOrientation which he could never requite]]. Falco for his part just wants her to grow up and move on as a strong independent woman, and it appears she eventually does (and also begins to fall in love with [[SecondLove Cool]] instead). Falco is not interested in girls, nor is he interested in relationships in general. Now getting increasingly less canonical and more fanonical. Though he's not into relationships, Falco still forms them, but may [[SheIsNotMyGirlfriend downplay their significance]]. (What makes this different from Katt? Falco has no UnresolvedSexualTension with Katt, but Fox and Falco appear at times to have BelligerentSexualTension, probably with plenty of SlapSlapKiss.) Since Fox and Falco are the FanPreferredCouple in Japan, I'm going to say that they actually are a couple -- not formally committed, and not merely FriendsWithBenefits, but more like Best Friends With Best Benefits, LikeAnOldMarriedCouple. Falco refuses to quantify these things, and Fox doesn't even try to make him (he probably [[NotSoDifferent isn't one]] [[{{Polyamory}} to talk]]), but their relationship simply takes the paths it takes. Falco could be there all the time, or away for a long time (even years, such as after ''Farewell''), and it's not like this [[StatusQuoIsGod upsets Fox's life too much]]. The love may be epic, but the romance is not.
* This should so be said in the games somewhere. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.
** Really? On some forums I've been to, the notion that ''[[ValuesDissonance any]]'' of the characters could be gay is immediate FlameBait. Even [[ManlyGay Wolf]] and [[CampGay Leon]], even when you show them [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros proof]]. Strangely, there is little FlameBait when someone suggests that [[AmericansHateTingle Slippy]] is either gay or a woman or both, when Slippy is the one character furthest away from tripping my {{Gaydar}}. Or [[TheScrappy Andrew]]. Basically, [[UnfortunateImplications any character they don't like]]. Makes me wanna bang my head against a wall repeatedly. It appears the Japanese and [[{{Eagleland}} American]] fandoms have very, very little in common culturally.



Really. He's not a woman. He doesn't even have a high voice. And he's straight. He could even possibly be the only male member of Star Fox who ''is'' straight. And he's [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap actually fun to be around]], but his portrayals have usually been very unflattering. And he still wears that bead [[UtilityBelt Utility Necklace]], but [[AssPull artists have simply chosen not to draw it]].

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Really. He's not a woman. He doesn't even have a high voice. And he's straight. He could even possibly be the only male member of Star Fox who ''is'' straight. And he's [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap actually fun to be around]], but his portrayals have usually been very unflattering. And he still wears that bead [[UtilityBelt Utility Necklace]], but [[AssPull artists have simply chosen not to draw it]].
* The bead necklace was only seen in the SNES continuity. In the later games and comics, there's no evidence the [[UtilityBelt Utility Necklace]] exists at all.



* Agreed, [[BaseBreaker Krystal]] is very divisive, and [[DamselScrappy pretty unpopular]] at least in Japan. But she remains [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff wildly popular]] in the West, with most [[BrokenBase anti-Krystal fans]] being pre-''Adventures'' fans, female fans and the powerful [[LGBTFanbase gay fandom]]. The topic of Krystal is a HolyWar, where her {{Fandom}} and {{Hatedom}} [[InternetBackdraft cannot compromise and cannot coexist peacefully]]. So it seems likely that no matter what the creators decide to do, [[UnpleasableFanbase someone will be very unhappy with it]].

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* Agreed, [[BaseBreaker Krystal]] is very divisive, and [[DamselScrappy pretty unpopular]] at least in Japan. But she remains [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff wildly popular]] in the West, with most [[BrokenBase anti-Krystal fans]] being pre-''Adventures'' fans, female fans and the powerful [[LGBTFanbase gay fandom]]. fandom.]] The topic of Krystal is a HolyWar, where her {{Fandom}} and {{Hatedom}} [[InternetBackdraft cannot compromise and cannot coexist peacefully]]. So it seems likely that no matter what the creators decide to do, [[UnpleasableFanbase someone will be very unhappy with it]].
3rd Jun '16 10:36:54 PM MarkWilder
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Answering how a fur covered character can have tattoos, I present to you [[http://www.netposse.com/prevrec/Brand_heart.jpg freeze brands.]] A type of branding that is supposed to be both more humane and less damaging than fire branding, freeze branding doesn't mark the skin, but it does hinder the skin's ability to grow fur or hair with any pigment. In other words, any new hair becomes white, just like Krystal's "tattoos."

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Answering how a fur covered character can have tattoos, I present to you [[http://www.netposse.com/prevrec/Brand_heart.jpg [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeze_brand freeze brands.]] A type of branding that is supposed to be both more humane and less damaging than fire branding, freeze branding doesn't mark the skin, but it does hinder the skin's ability to grow fur or hair with any pigment. In other words, any new hair becomes white, just like Krystal's "tattoos."
3rd May '16 8:47:26 AM Waddle
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[[WMG: A ''Dinosaur Planet'' reboot will be released on NX.]]
To continue the 3rd timelime initiated by ''VideoGame/StarFoxZero'', a remake of ''VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures'' will eventually be made. But this time, and partially because of the BaseBreaker status of ''Adventures'', Krystal, and sadly even ''Zero'', it will be considered a SpinOff with almost no mention of the Star Fox team. It will be closer to the original N64 ''Dinosaur Planet'' prototype, Krystal will actually be the main character this time, no more half-arsed Arwing sequence to justify the title, and only at the end would she meet Fox and the others. Consider it the beginning of the "Star Fox Videoludic Universe".
* Considering the quick mention of Sauria in ''The Battle Begins'', it could canonically fit as a prequel depending of what happens in this game, namely if there are no Andross fight. It would also be a great opportunity to flesh-out General Scales and actually make him the BigBad of this game, without being [[HijackedByGanon Hijacked by Andross]].
2nd May '16 5:56:13 PM BiggerBen
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[[WMG: The Slot Machine from "Out of this Dimension" was built by that dimension's version of Andross.]]
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