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''VideoGame/BloodstainedCurseOfTheMoon 2'': Sooo... Dominique is confirmed as a playable character, but she was the BigBad of ''VideoGame/BloodstainedRitualOfTheNight'' and was considered a CompleteMonster. So what's the chance that this being an AlternateUniverse thing, ''Curse'''s Dominique becomes a case of AdaptationalHeroism? Let's find out.
* Species: Human. 3.
* Gender: Female. 4.
* Age: She's quite the young adult, definitely older than Miriam. 4.
* Role: She's the BigBad and was apparently nefarious enough to count as a CompleteMonster. Even if ''Curse'' is an AlternateUniverse, that doesn't guarantee a 180 in morality stance. 1
* Aesthetics: She's definitely beautiful, and it may count for EvilIsSexy. 4.
* Motivation: While she certainly had a FreudianExcuse, she's too far into the CompleteMonster-dom. But since this takes place in an alternate universe... we'll just give her 2, taking account on her FreudianExcuse, maybe she won't take it too far this time. (If this was ''Ritual'' Dominique, it's ''definitely'' 1)
* Contentness: She's doing well on it, because she's not a cackling villain or enjoying every minute. 2.
* Morality of the Story: Bloodstained, on both continuities, were quite clear on who's the bad guy and the good guy, even ''Curse'' Zangetsu can be chalked off as 'being grumpy'. 2.
* Idealism of the Story: It's quite as idealistic as [[Franchise/{{Castlevania}} its predecessor series]], but not by much... 4.
* Average: 26/9 -> 2.89. Just slightly below average. Players may want to be careful that Dominique being playable just means that it's another phase of BitchInSheepsClothing.
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Now for ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThreeHouses''.
How likely was it that [[spoiler:Edelgard]] was going to turn out to be a traitor and warlord?
* Species: Human: 3.
* Gender: Female: 3.
* Age: Starts at 17, turns 18 during the story. 4.
* Role: One of the primary protagonists. 1.
* Aesthetics: Otherworldly due to MysticalWhiteHair. 5.
* Motivation: A genuine desire for societal reform. Let's call it a 3.
* Characterization: Leans towards the arrogant side. 4.
* Contentness: Hates the current state of society. 5.
* Morality of the story: GreyAndGrayMorality. 4.
* Idealism of the story: Leans towards cynical since there's no way to stop the war and sympathetic major characters always end up dead. 4.
* Average: 36/10 = 3.6. The red flags were clearly there in hindsight, and if it weren't for her story role it would have been a very easy betrayal to see coming.
How likely would it be for Byleth to betray the Church, [[spoiler:as happens on the Crimson Flower route]]?
* Species: A human whose soul is merged with either a goddess or a divine dragon worshiped as a goddess. 3.
* Gender: Player-determined between female (3) and male (4).
* Age: 20-21. 5.
* Role: The primary protagonist. 1.
* Aesthetics: Conventionally attractive. 1.
* Motivation: Loyalty and friendship towards their students. 2.
* Characterization: A stoic paragon. 1.
* Contentness: [[spoiler:The murder of their father]] was a big blow, but other than that they've got it pretty good. 2.
* Morality of the story: GreyAndGrayMorality. 4.
* Idealism of the story: Leans towards cynical since there's no way to stop the war and sympathetic major characters always end up dead. 4.
* Average: 26 or 27/10 = 2.6 or 2.7. Fairly unlikely - [[spoiler:it's kinda hard to blame Rhea for snapping if they actually go through with it]].
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Now, for a somewhat controversial use of the scale. It is time to settle a question that is furiously debated on practically every online forum that doesn’t have a BanOnPolitics. Who was more evil, Hitler or Stalin?
For UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler:
* Species: Everyone in RealLife is human, so this doesn’t apply.
Now, for a somewhat controversial use of the scale. It is time to settle a question that is furiously debated on practically every online forum that doesn’t have a BanOnPolitics. Who was more evil, Hitler or Stalin?
For UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler:
* Species: Everyone in RealLife is human, so this doesn’t apply.
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Now, for a somewhat controversial use of the scale. It is time to settle a question that is furiously debated on practically every online forum that doesn’t have a BanOnPolitics. Who was more evil, Hitler or Stalin?
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* Species:
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* Age: He came to power when he was in his forties, and started UsefulNotes/WorldWarII when he turned fifty. 3
* Role: The ''one'' BigBad, not only of the war but arguably the entire century. 1
* Aesthetics: He was pretty ugly. 3
* Motivation: Though he was no doubt a monster, he did not do it just ForTheEvulz. He wanted power, but that was derived from his social Darwinism and belief that “inferior races” must be eliminated. I will combine both for 2.5
* Characterization: Did he ever talk about anything other than killing those who weren’t part of his MasterRace? 1
* Contentness: The war did not affect him personally until the very end when he knew he had lost. When his power was at his peak, he was enjoying every minute of it. 1
* Morality of the story: RealLife, by definition, [[MoralityKitchenSink has people of every moral persuasion]]. 4
* Idealism of the story: Nobody can agree on how cynical RealLife is, so this will not be counted.
* Average: 17.5/8 = 2.1875. The most disturbing thing about this is that he even scored higher than a 2.0.
Now on to Stalin:
* Species: Same as above, N/A
* Role: The ''one'' BigBad, not only of the war but arguably the entire century. 1
* Aesthetics: He was pretty ugly. 3
* Motivation: Though he was no doubt a monster, he did not do it just ForTheEvulz. He wanted power, but that was derived from his social Darwinism and belief that “inferior races” must be eliminated. I will combine both for 2.5
* Characterization: Did he ever talk about anything other than killing those who weren’t part of his MasterRace? 1
* Contentness: The war did not affect him personally until the very end when he knew he had lost. When his power was at his peak, he was enjoying every minute of it. 1
* Morality of the story: RealLife, by definition, [[MoralityKitchenSink has people of every moral persuasion]]. 4
* Idealism of the story: Nobody can agree on how cynical RealLife is, so this will not be counted.
* Average: 17.5/8 = 2.1875. The most disturbing thing about this is that he even scored higher than a 2.0.
Now on to Stalin:
* Species: Same as above, N/A
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* Age: He came to power when he Chronologically young, his actor was in his forties, and started UsefulNotes/WorldWarII when he turned fifty.thirties... I'll just put N/A
* Role: N/A
* Aesthetics: Average. 3
*Role: The ''one'' BigBad, not only of the war but arguably the entire century.Motivation: Seems to be doing it for kicks. 1
*Aesthetics: He was pretty ugly.Characterization: Erratic. 2
* Contentness: Sometimes half-heartedly complains. I'll put neutral. 3
*Motivation: Though he was no doubt Morality: The Good, the Bad, and the Evil. 4
* Idealism: Idealistic. 5
* Average: 22/8 = 2.75: Nearly amonster, he did not do it just ForTheEvulz. He wanted power, 50/50, but that was derived from leaning towards "no".
Now, let's see if he could've succeeded in turning hissocial Darwinism "brother" evil.
* Species: Android. 5
* Gender: Male. 4
* Age: N/A
* Role: True companion. 3
* Aesthetics: Pretty average, but has pale skin andbelief that “inferior races” must be eliminated. I will combine both for 2.yellow eyes. 3.5
*Characterization: Did he ever talk about anything other than killing those who weren’t part of his MasterRace? 1
Motivation: I'll go with worldview. 3
* Characterisation: N/A
* Contentness: Doesn't have emotions, but he's in good hands. 2
* Morality: Thewar did not affect him personally until Good, the very end when he knew he had lost. When his power was at his peak, he was enjoying every minute of it.Bad, and the Evil. 3
* Cynicism: Idealistic. 1
* Morality of the story: RealLife, by definition, [[MoralityKitchenSink has people of every moral persuasion]]. 4
* Idealism of the story: Nobody can agree on how cynical RealLife is, so this will not be counted.
* Average: 17.23.5/8 = 2.1875. The most disturbing thing about this is that he even scored higher than 9. It was almost a 2.0.
Now on50/50. Thank goodness for Captain Picard.
People have worried Spock would turn evil in TNG and Disco. Let's see if they had right toStalin:
worry:
* Species:Same as above, N/AHalf-human hybrid. 1
* Gender: Male. 4
* Age: Young in Disco, old in TNG. 5 or 2.
* Role: Freelancer. 4
* Aesthetics: Pretty average, but with Vulcan eyebrows and ears. 3.5
* Motivation: Worldview. 3
* Characterisation: N/A
* Contentness: Life was pretty hard both times. 4
* Morality: The Good, the Bad, and the Evil. 3
* Cynicism: Idealistic. 1
* Average: 28.5/9 = 3.67 or 25.5/9 = 2.83. Yes, they had reason to worry both times, especially in Disco.
Was Chakotay right in worrying that Janeway would turn evil in "Equinox"?
* Species: Human. 3
* Gender: Female. 3
* Age: Middle-aged. 3
* Role: Heroine. 1
* Aesthetics: Dignified. 2
* Motivation: Worldview, but with a bit of love in there too. 3.5
* Characterisation: I think she's an anti-hero. 2
* Contentness: Stuck in the Delta Quadrant. 4
* Morality: The Good, the Bad, and the Evil. 3
* Cynicism: Idealistic. 1
* Average: 25.5/10 = 2.55. He was right in being a tad concerned, but probably shouldn't have worried ''too'' much.
Was Sisko right that Dukat is irredeemable?
* Species: Rubber-forehead alien. 2
* Role: N/A
* Aesthetics: Average. 3
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* Contentness: Sometimes half-heartedly complains. I'll put neutral. 3
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* Idealism: Idealistic. 5
* Average: 22/8 = 2.75: Nearly a
Now, let's see if he could've succeeded in turning his
* Species: Android. 5
* Gender: Male. 4
* Age: N/A
* Role: True companion. 3
* Aesthetics: Pretty average, but has pale skin and
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* Characterisation: N/A
* Contentness: Doesn't have emotions, but he's in good hands. 2
* Morality: The
* Cynicism: Idealistic. 1
* Idealism of the story: Nobody can agree on how cynical RealLife is, so this will not be counted.
Now on
People have worried Spock would turn evil in TNG and Disco. Let's see if they had right to
* Species:
* Gender: Male. 4
* Age: Young in Disco, old in TNG. 5 or 2.
* Role: Freelancer. 4
* Aesthetics: Pretty average, but with Vulcan eyebrows and ears. 3.5
* Motivation: Worldview. 3
* Characterisation: N/A
* Contentness: Life was pretty hard both times. 4
* Morality: The Good, the Bad, and the Evil. 3
* Cynicism: Idealistic. 1
* Average: 28.5/9 = 3.67 or 25.5/9 = 2.83. Yes, they had reason to worry both times, especially in Disco.
Was Chakotay right in worrying that Janeway would turn evil in "Equinox"?
* Species: Human. 3
* Gender: Female. 3
* Age: Middle-aged. 3
* Role: Heroine. 1
* Aesthetics: Dignified. 2
* Motivation: Worldview, but with a bit of love in there too. 3.5
* Characterisation: I think she's an anti-hero. 2
* Contentness: Stuck in the Delta Quadrant. 4
* Morality: The Good, the Bad, and the Evil. 3
* Cynicism: Idealistic. 1
* Average: 25.5/10 = 2.55. He was right in being a tad concerned, but probably shouldn't have worried ''too'' much.
Was Sisko right that Dukat is irredeemable?
* Species: Rubber-forehead alien. 2
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* Age: Middle-aged. 3
* Role: Big Bad. 1
* Aesthetics: Kind of ugly. 3
* Motivation: Seemed pretty power-hungry. 2
* Characterisation: Insane. 2
* Contentness: Semi-angsty. 4.5
* Morality: The Good, the Bad, and the Evil. 4
* Idealism: DS9 is a bit grittier than standard ''Star Trek'', but still pretty idealistic. 4
* Average = 27.5/10 = 2.75. So maybe Sisko was wrong, but don't hold your breath.
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''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''
Ned Flanders has turned evil in ''WesternAnimation/TreehouseOfHorror'', but how likely is that to occur in canon?
* Species: Everyone's pretty much human, so N/A
* Gender: Male. 4
* Age: Middle-aged unless you count that one episode. 3
* Role: N/A
* Aesthetics: Average, but sometimes comes off as hot in-universe. I'll just put 2
* Motivation: Compassion, but also worldview. 2
* Characterisation: All-loving hero. 1
* Contentness: His wife died, but he's pretty fine otherwise. 2
* Morality: The Good, the Bad, and the Evil. 3
* Cynicism: Average. 3
* Average = 20/8 = 2.5. He's probably not turning evil.
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Now, for a somewhat controversial use of the scale. It is time to settle a question that is furiously debated on practically every online forum that doesn’t have a BanOnPolitics. Who was more evil, Hitler or Stalin?
For UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler:
* Species: Everyone in RealLife is human, so this doesn’t apply.
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: He came to power when he was in his forties, and started UsefulNotes/WorldWarII when he turned fifty. 3
* Role: The ''one'' BigBad, not only of the war but arguably the entire century. 1
* Aesthetics: He was pretty ugly. 3
* Motivation: Though he was no doubt a monster, he did not do it just ForTheEvulz. He wanted power, but that was derived from his social Darwinism and belief that “inferior races” must be eliminated. I will combine both for 2.5
* Characterization: Did he ever talk about anything other than killing those who weren’t part of his MasterRace? 1
* Contentness: The war did not affect him personally until the very end when he knew he had lost. When his power was at his peak, he was enjoying every minute of it. 1
* Morality of the story: RealLife, by definition, [[MoralityKitchenSink has people of every moral persuasion]]. 4
* Idealism of the story: Nobody can agree on how cynical RealLife is, so this will not be counted.
* Average: 17.5/8 = 2.1875. The most disturbing thing about this is that he even scored higher than a 2.0.
Now on to Stalin:
* Species: Same as above, N/A
* Gender: Male. 2
* Role: Big Bad. 1
* Aesthetics: Kind of ugly. 3
* Motivation: Seemed pretty power-hungry. 2
* Characterisation: Insane. 2
* Contentness: Semi-angsty. 4.5
* Morality: The Good, the Bad, and the Evil. 4
* Idealism: DS9 is a bit grittier than standard ''Star Trek'', but still pretty idealistic. 4
* Average = 27.5/10 = 2.75. So maybe Sisko was wrong, but don't hold your breath.
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''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''
Ned Flanders has turned evil in ''WesternAnimation/TreehouseOfHorror'', but how likely is that to occur in canon?
* Species: Everyone's pretty much human, so N/A
* Gender: Male. 4
* Age: Middle-aged unless you count that one episode. 3
* Role: N/A
* Aesthetics: Average, but sometimes comes off as hot in-universe. I'll just put 2
* Motivation: Compassion, but also worldview. 2
* Characterisation: All-loving hero. 1
* Contentness: His wife died, but he's pretty fine otherwise. 2
* Morality: The Good, the Bad, and the Evil. 3
* Cynicism: Average. 3
* Average = 20/8 = 2.5. He's probably not turning evil.
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Now, for a somewhat controversial use of the scale. It is time to settle a question that is furiously debated on practically every online forum that doesn’t have a BanOnPolitics. Who was more evil, Hitler or Stalin?
For UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler:
* Species: Everyone in RealLife is human, so this doesn’t apply.
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: He came to power when he was in his forties, and started UsefulNotes/WorldWarII when he turned fifty. 3
* Role: The ''one'' BigBad, not only of the war but arguably the entire century. 1
* Aesthetics: He was pretty ugly. 3
* Motivation: Though he was no doubt a monster, he did not do it just ForTheEvulz. He wanted power, but that was derived from his social Darwinism and belief that “inferior races” must be eliminated. I will combine both for 2.5
* Characterization: Did he ever talk about anything other than killing those who weren’t part of his MasterRace? 1
* Contentness: The war did not affect him personally until the very end when he knew he had lost. When his power was at his peak, he was enjoying every minute of it. 1
* Morality of the story: RealLife, by definition, [[MoralityKitchenSink has people of every moral persuasion]]. 4
* Idealism of the story: Nobody can agree on how cynical RealLife is, so this will not be counted.
* Average: 17.5/8 = 2.1875. The most disturbing thing about this is that he even scored higher than a 2.0.
Now on to Stalin:
* Species: Same as above, N/A
* Gender: Male. 2
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||'''Gender'''||AmbiguousGender || Male, SexShifter|| Genderless, Hermaphrodite|| [[HighHeelFaceTurn Female]] || ||
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||'''Species''' if there are others besides humans|| multiple species|| Inhuman: EldritchAbomination, Demons, TheFairFolk || Humanoid: RubberForeheadAliens, human looking androids, some vampires || Humans, HumanAliens, Humanised Robots Animals || Pretty: GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe, elves [[OurElvesAreBetter elves]], SuperiorSpecies || Rare and special: LastOfHisKind, MixedAncestry special (LastOfHisKind, MixedAncestry, HalfHumanHybrid) ||
||'''Gender'''||AmbiguousGender ||'''Gender'''|| AmbiguousGender || Male, SexShifter|| Genderless, Hermaphrodite|| SexShifter || [[NoBiologicalSex Genderless]], {{Hermaphrodite}} || [[HighHeelFaceTurn Female]] || ||
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||'''[[BeautyEqualsGoodness Aesthetics]]'''|| [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Monstrous]], OneWingedAngel, Across the BishonenLine, [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent Reptile-themed]] || One seriously creepy part: RedRightHand, GlamourFailure || Plain looking, Genuinely ugly, CreepyAwesome || [[TheBeautifulElite Unnaturally Beautiful,]] EvilIsSexy || [[GorgeousGorgon Attractive]], [[CuteMonsterGirl Cute]], Pretty ||
||'''Motivation''' for doing evil|| {{Complete Monster}}: [[EvilFeelsGood Plain likes being evil]]: ForTheEvulz || [[AmbitionIsEvil Unscrupulous]] with [[JustThinkOfThePotential some kind of goal:]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Money]], ForScience, power || Hubris and Worldview: StrawNihilist, TheSocialDarwinist, TheUnfettered ''or'' sheer anger and despair: WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, RivalTurnedEvil || Means Well: KnightTemplar, WellIntentionedExtremist || Love and Loyalty: MyMasterRightOrWrong, MyCountryRightOrWrong, WellDoneSonGuy or alternatively ForcedIntoEvil ||
||'''Characterization'''|| FlatCharacter, ObviouslyEvil, CardCarryingVillain || checking off the SevenDeadlySins, strange and erratic, plain nuts || LawfulEvil, cold blooded || Possesses honor: EvenEvilHasStandards, GracefulLoser, WorthyOpponent, NobleDemon || Someone very lost and confused, RoundedCharacter ||
||'''Motivation''' for doing evil|| {{Complete Monster}}: [[EvilFeelsGood Plain likes being evil]]: ForTheEvulz || [[AmbitionIsEvil Unscrupulous]] with [[JustThinkOfThePotential some kind of goal:]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Money]], ForScience, power || Hubris and Worldview: StrawNihilist, TheSocialDarwinist, TheUnfettered ''or'' sheer anger and despair: WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, RivalTurnedEvil || Means Well: KnightTemplar, WellIntentionedExtremist || Love and Loyalty: MyMasterRightOrWrong, MyCountryRightOrWrong, WellDoneSonGuy or alternatively ForcedIntoEvil ||
||'''Characterization'''|| FlatCharacter, ObviouslyEvil, CardCarryingVillain || checking off the SevenDeadlySins, strange and erratic, plain nuts || LawfulEvil, cold blooded || Possesses honor: EvenEvilHasStandards, GracefulLoser, WorthyOpponent, NobleDemon || Someone very lost and confused, RoundedCharacter ||
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||'''[[BeautyEqualsGoodness Aesthetics]]'''|| [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Monstrous]], OneWingedAngel, Across the BishonenLine, [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent Reptile-themed]] || One seriously creepy part: RedRightHand, GlamourFailure || Plain looking, Plain-looking, Genuinely ugly, CreepyAwesome CreepyAwesome, [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Monstrous]] || [[TheBeautifulElite Unnaturally Beautiful,]] EvilIsSexy || [[GorgeousGorgon Attractive]], [[CuteMonsterGirl Cute]], Pretty GorgeousGorgon, CuteMonsterGirl, Pretty, UglyCute ||
||'''Motivation''' for doing evil||{{Complete Monster}}: CompleteMonster, [[EvilFeelsGood Plain likes being evil]]: evil]], ForTheEvulz || [[AmbitionIsEvil Unscrupulous]] with [[JustThinkOfThePotential some kind of goal:]] goal]]: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Money]], ForScience, power || Hubris and Worldview: StrawNihilist, TheSocialDarwinist, SocialDarwinist, TheUnfettered ''or'' sheer anger and despair: WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, RivalTurnedEvil despair (WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, RivalTurnedEvil) || Means Well: KnightTemplar, WellIntentionedExtremist || Love and Loyalty: MyMasterRightOrWrong, MyCountryRightOrWrong, WellDoneSonGuy or alternatively alternatively, ForcedIntoEvil ||
||'''Characterization'''|| FlatCharacter, ObviouslyEvil, CardCarryingVillain ||checking Checking off the SevenDeadlySins, strange and erratic, [[AxCrazy plain nuts nuts]] || LawfulEvil, cold blooded || Possesses honor: EvenEvilHasStandards, GracefulLoser, WorthyOpponent, NobleDemon || Someone very lost and confused, RoundedCharacter ||
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||'''Aesthetics'''|| [[BeautyEqualsGoodness Cute, pretty pretty, or attractive]] attractive]], UglyCute || Dignified || Average || A bit predatory such (such as [[SupernaturalGoldEyes [[EyesOfGold yellow eyes]] eyes]]) or somewhat "gothic" such (such as EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette) || [[GoodScarsEvilScars Attractively scarred, scarred]], sexy and seductive or otherworldly such as [[MysticalWhiteHair white hair]], [[RedEyesTakeWarning red eyes]] {{red eyes|take warning}} ||
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||'''Morality of the story'''|| RousseauWasRight || BlackAndWhiteMorality || TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil || GreyAndGrayMorality || BlackAndGrayMorality, EvilVersusEvil ||
||'''Cynicism of the story''' || Idealistic || || || || Cynical ||
||'''Morality of the story'''|| RousseauWasRight || BlackAndWhiteMorality || TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil || GreyAndGrayMorality || BlackAndGrayMorality, EvilVersusEvil ||
||'''Cynicism of the story''' || Idealistic || || || || Cynical ||
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||'''Contentness''' with life in general and good in particular || [[GoodFeelsGood Enjoying every minute]] || Doing well || [[PunchClockHero Neutral]] Neutral || Life is hard || [[BeingGoodSucks Angst, angst, angst...]] ||
||'''Morality of the story'''|| RousseauWasRight || BlackAndWhiteMorality || TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil || GreyAndGrayMorality ||BlackAndGrayMorality, EvilVersusEvil BlackAndGrayMorality ||
||'''Cynicism of thestory''' || story'''|| Idealistic || || || || Cynical ||||
||'''Morality of the story'''|| RousseauWasRight || BlackAndWhiteMorality || TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil || GreyAndGrayMorality ||
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||'''Species''' if there are others besides humans|| SuperiorSpecies, LastOfHisKind ||Pleasant sapients: GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe, FriendlyNeighbourhoodVampire, OurElvesAreBetter || Humans || Anything inhuman that looks creepy || TheFairFilk, Sentient technology: Cyborgs, [[JustForFun/SentientAIWarningSigns uncannily clever AI]] ||
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||'''Species''' if there are others besides humans|| SuperiorSpecies, LastOfHisKind ||Pleasant sapients: GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe, FriendlyNeighbourhoodVampire, OurElvesAreBetter || Humans || Anything inhuman that looks creepy || TheFairFilk, TheFairFolk, Sentient technology: Cyborgs, [[JustForFun/SentientAIWarningSigns uncannily clever AI]] ||
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||'''Species''' if there are others besides humans|| SuperiorSpecies ||Pleasant sapients: GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe, FriendlyNeighbourhoodVampire, OurElvesAreBetter || Humans || Anything inhuman that looks creepy || Sentient technology: Cyborgs, [[JustForFun/SentientAIWarningSigns uncannily clever AI]] ||
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||'''Species''' if there are others besides humans|| SuperiorSpecies SuperiorSpecies, LastOfHisKind ||Pleasant sapients: GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe, FriendlyNeighbourhoodVampire, OurElvesAreBetter || Humans || Anything inhuman that looks creepy || TheFairFilk, Sentient technology: Cyborgs, [[JustForFun/SentientAIWarningSigns uncannily clever AI]] ||
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||'''[[BeautyEqualsGoodness Aesthetics]]'''|| [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Monstrous]], OneWingedAngel, Across the BishonenLine, [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent Reptile-themed]] || One seriously creepy part: RedRightHand, GlamourFailure || Plain looking, Genuinely ugly || [[TheBeautifulElite Unnaturally Beautiful,]] EvilIsSexy || [[GorgeousGorgon Attractive]], [[CuteMonsterGirl Cute]], Pretty ||
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||'''[[BeautyEqualsGoodness Aesthetics]]'''|| [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Monstrous]], OneWingedAngel, Across the BishonenLine, [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent Reptile-themed]] || One seriously creepy part: RedRightHand, GlamourFailure || Plain looking, Genuinely ugly ugly, CreepyAwesome || [[TheBeautifulElite Unnaturally Beautiful,]] EvilIsSexy || [[GorgeousGorgon Attractive]], [[CuteMonsterGirl Cute]], Pretty ||
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||'''[[BeautyEqualsGoodness Aesthetics]]'''|| [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Monstrous]], [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent Reptile-themed]] || One seriously creepy part: OneWingedAngel, RedRightHand, GlamourFailure || Plain looking, Genuinely ugly || [[TheBeautifulElite Unnaturally Beautiful,]] EvilIsSexy || [[GorgeousGorgon Attractive]], [[CuteMonsterGirl Cute]], Pretty ||
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Literature/TheLordOfTheRings: Just to see if Gandalf with his wisdom should have predicted Saruman’s FaceHeelTurn:
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Judging how most if the fanbase of ''LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana'' says that Yuji Sakai went all evil after merging with the Snake of the Festival, let's see if they’re right:
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Judging how most
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Azula from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. Can a hug and a glass of milk from Mommy really redeem this broken-down villain, or is she evil now and forever?
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Azula. Can a hug and a glass of milk from Mommy really redeem this broken-down villain, or is she evil now and forever?
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''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': What will become of Sasuke? Most expect him to be brought back by Naruto, yet many yearn to see him die as a villain deserves.
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What will become of Sasuke? Most expect him to be brought back by Naruto, yet many yearn to see him die as a villain deserves.
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* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. 4.
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* Morality: Morality of the story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. 4.
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How about fan-favorites Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez and Ulquiorra Cifer from ''Manga/{{Bleach}}''? Assuming Grimmjow’s LongBusTrip ends and Ulquiorra comes BackFromTheDead, that is.
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How about fan-favorites Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez and Ulquiorra
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Now, Topher from ''{{Series/Dollhouse}}''. A tough one. Joss Whedon loves to play with morality on the series. Topher has been stated, in-show, to ''have'' no morals, yet given the events of “Belonging” it’s clear something’s going to give.
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* Morality of the story: BlackAndGreyMorality, shading into GreyAndGrayMorality at times. It’s a Whedon show; it might change at any time. Right now we’re at 3.
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* Morality of the story: BlackAndGreyMorality, BlackAndGrayMorality, shading into GreyAndGrayMorality at times. It’s a Whedon show; it might change at any time. Right now we’re at 3.
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* Morality: Shades of gray, what with Kevin and all. 3.
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* Morality: Morality of the story: Shades of gray, what with Kevin and all. 3.
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* Total: 36.5/10 = 3.65. There’s a decent chance she may turn once more of her character background is revealed (which, according to WordOfGod, will happen in ''Ben 10: Ultimate Alien''.) She’s definitely not as evil as Kevin was, and he turned face (of course, a lot of the reasoning behind his turn [[NotAsYouKnowThem ignores his previous characterization altogether.]])
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* Total: 36.5/10 = 3.65. There’s a decent chance she may turn once more of her character background is revealed (which, according to WordOfGod, will happen in ''Ben 10: Ultimate Alien''.) She’s definitely not as evil as Kevin was, and he turned face (of course, a lot of the reasoning behind his turn [[NotAsYouKnowThem ignores his previous characterization altogether.]])
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* Total: Griffith at the start of the Hawks arc: 39/10 = 3.9, while Griffith near the end: 42/10 = 4.2. In either case, Guts and company ''definitely'' should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn from Griffith coming.
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* Total: Griffith at the start of the Hawks arc: 39/10 = 3.9, while Griffith near the end: 42/10 = 4.2. In either case, Guts and company ''definitely'' should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn from Griffith coming.
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24.25/9 = 2.6944444444. Unlikely. (And he’s also dead, so I’m not sure these had that much of a point...)
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* Age: Older (1)
* Role: Some consider him a BigBad, others would say he’s an Opportunist, so either a (1) or a (2)
* Aesthetics: Either genuinely ugly or just feeling the effects of age (3)
* Motivation: KnightTemplar (4)
* Characterization: LawfulEvil ''and'' EvenEvilHasStandards, so either a (3) or (4).
* Contentness: [[AllThereInTheManual The strategy guide]] said he was generally unhappy, so we'll say “life is hard” (4)
* Morality of the story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil (4)
* Idealism of the story: Kind of split between Idealistic and Cynical, so (3)
** ''28/10'' or ''30/10''= Between 2.8 and 3. Probably not going to happen, at least not without a significant FreudianExcuse.
* Role: Some consider him a BigBad, others would say he’s an Opportunist, so either a (1) or a (2)
* Aesthetics: Either genuinely ugly or just feeling the effects of age (3)
* Motivation: KnightTemplar (4)
* Characterization: LawfulEvil ''and'' EvenEvilHasStandards, so either a (3) or (4).
* Contentness: [[AllThereInTheManual The strategy guide]] said he was generally unhappy, so we'll say “life is hard” (4)
* Morality of the story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil (4)
* Idealism of the story: Kind of split between Idealistic and Cynical, so (3)
** ''28/10'' or ''30/10''= Between 2.8 and 3. Probably not going to happen, at least not without a significant FreudianExcuse.
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* Age: Older (1)
Older. 1.
* Role: Some consider him a BigBad, others would say he’s an Opportunist, so either a(1) 1 or a (2)
2.
* Aesthetics: Either genuinely ugly or just feeling the effects of age(3)
3.
* Motivation: KnightTemplar(4)
4.
* Characterization: LawfulEvil ''and'' EvenEvilHasStandards, so either a(3) 3 or (4).
4.
* Contentness: [[AllThereInTheManual The strategy guide]] said he was generally unhappy, so we'll say “life ishard” (4)
hard”. 4.
* Morality of the story:TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil (4)
TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. 4.
* Idealism of the story: Kind of split between Idealistic and Cynical, so(3)
3.
**''28/10'' 28/10 or ''30/10''= 30/10 = Between 2.8 and 3. Probably not going to happen, at least not without a significant FreudianExcuse.
* Role: Some consider him a BigBad, others would say he’s an Opportunist, so either a
* Aesthetics: Either genuinely ugly or just feeling the effects of age
* Motivation: KnightTemplar
* Characterization: LawfulEvil ''and'' EvenEvilHasStandards, so either a
* Contentness: [[AllThereInTheManual The strategy guide]] said he was generally unhappy, so we'll say “life is
* Morality of the story:
* Idealism of the story: Kind of split between Idealistic and Cynical, so
**
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Time to look at how [[Manga/MahouSenseiNegima Cosmo Entelachia]] fares on this front:
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* Species: Human enough (3)
* Gender: Male (2)
* Age: Tough call. He started out as a CreepyChild (2), but then he starts looking older, closer to teenage (5), hmm. Let’s go 3.5
* Role: Seemed to be the BigBad for a while, but it’s pretty clear he’s always been TheDragon (4)
* Aesthetics: The GlamourFailure with his body might cause him problems (2), but, depending on your mileage he either doesn’t have any outstanding features, possesses unnatural looks (4) or is conventionally attractive (5). Eh, let’s say 3.5 again.
* Motivation: WellIntentionedExtremist, probably (4)
* Characterisation: Shows many cold-blooded signs early (3), but seems to be showing some traits leaning towards him [[EvenEvilHasStandards having standards]] (4).
* Contentness: His resolve does appear to have been shaken (4)
* Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality (3). Except it’s also got TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil (4). And there are almost no truly evil characters (barring Tsukiyomi and possibly some others), so RousseauWasRight (5). Well, that averages to (4)
* Sliding Scale: Idealistic in the end (5)
* Total: 36/10 or 37/10 = 3.6 or 3.7. Quite likely, really. [[spoiler: The fact that Negi wants to make like Nanoha only improves his chances.]]
* Gender: Male (2)
* Age: Tough call. He started out as a CreepyChild (2), but then he starts looking older, closer to teenage (5), hmm. Let’s go 3.5
* Role: Seemed to be the BigBad for a while, but it’s pretty clear he’s always been TheDragon (4)
* Aesthetics: The GlamourFailure with his body might cause him problems (2), but, depending on your mileage he either doesn’t have any outstanding features, possesses unnatural looks (4) or is conventionally attractive (5). Eh, let’s say 3.5 again.
* Motivation: WellIntentionedExtremist, probably (4)
* Characterisation: Shows many cold-blooded signs early (3), but seems to be showing some traits leaning towards him [[EvenEvilHasStandards having standards]] (4).
* Contentness: His resolve does appear to have been shaken (4)
* Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality (3). Except it’s also got TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil (4). And there are almost no truly evil characters (barring Tsukiyomi and possibly some others), so RousseauWasRight (5). Well, that averages to (4)
* Sliding Scale: Idealistic in the end (5)
* Total: 36/10 or 37/10 = 3.6 or 3.7. Quite likely, really. [[spoiler: The fact that Negi wants to make like Nanoha only improves his chances.]]
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* Species: Human enough (3)
enough. 3.
* Gender:Male (2)
Male. 2.
* Age: Tough call. He started out as aCreepyChild (2), CreepyChild, but then he starts looking older, closer to teenage (5), teenage, hmm. Let’s go 3.5
5.
* Role: Seemed to be the BigBad for a while, but it’s pretty clear he’s always beenTheDragon (4)
TheDragon. 4.
* Aesthetics: The GlamourFailure with his body might cause himproblems (2), problems, but, depending on your mileage he either doesn’t have any outstanding features, possesses unnatural looks (4) or is conventionally attractive (5).attractive. Eh, let’s say 3.5 again.
* Motivation: WellIntentionedExtremist, probably(4)
4.
* Characterisation: Shows many cold-blooded signsearly (3), early, but seems to be showing some traits leaning towards him [[EvenEvilHasStandards having standards]] (4).
4.
* Contentness: His resolve does appear to have beenshaken (4)
shaken. 4.
*Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality (3). Morality of the story: GreyAndGrayMorality. Except it’s also got TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil (4). TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. And there are almost no truly evil characters (barring Tsukiyomi and possibly some others), so RousseauWasRight (5). RousseauWasRight. Well, that averages to (4)
4.
* Sliding Scale: Idealistic in the end(5)
5.
*Total: 36/10 or 37/10 = 3.6 or 3.7. Quite likely, really. [[spoiler: The fact that Negi wants to make like Nanoha only improves his chances.]]
* Gender:
* Age: Tough call. He started out as a
* Role: Seemed to be the BigBad for a while, but it’s pretty clear he’s always been
* Aesthetics: The GlamourFailure with his body might cause him
* Motivation: WellIntentionedExtremist, probably
* Characterisation: Shows many cold-blooded signs
* Contentness: His resolve does appear to have been
*
* Sliding Scale: Idealistic in the end
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* Species: Pretty (4)
* Gender: Female (4)
* Age: Teenage (5)
* Role: Quirky Miniboss Squad fits the most right now (3)
* Aesthetics: Definately cute (5)
* Motivation: They pretty clearly believe in whatever Fate is currently doing (5)
* Characterisation: They haven’t had much, but they’re not evil nor crazy. It’s hard to say they’re {{Rounded Character}}s but they are pretty lost and confused, even if they try to act like {{Noble Demon}}s (4.5)
* Contentness: Life is ''very'' hard. Maybe not angst-festival hard, but it's pretty bad for them even if they like their ideal (4)
* Morality: (4)
* Idealism: (5)
* Total: 43.5/10 = 4.35. Practically certain. [[spoiler: It’s already started...]]
* Gender: Female (4)
* Age: Teenage (5)
* Role: Quirky Miniboss Squad fits the most right now (3)
* Aesthetics: Definately cute (5)
* Motivation: They pretty clearly believe in whatever Fate is currently doing (5)
* Characterisation: They haven’t had much, but they’re not evil nor crazy. It’s hard to say they’re {{Rounded Character}}s but they are pretty lost and confused, even if they try to act like {{Noble Demon}}s (4.5)
* Contentness: Life is ''very'' hard. Maybe not angst-festival hard, but it's pretty bad for them even if they like their ideal (4)
* Morality: (4)
* Idealism: (5)
* Total: 43.5/10 = 4.35. Practically certain. [[spoiler: It’s already started...]]
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* Species: Pretty (4)
Pretty. 4.
* Gender:Female (4)
Female. 4.
* Age:Teenage (5)
Teenage. 5.
* Role: Quirky Miniboss Squad fits the most rightnow (3)
now. 3.
* Aesthetics: Definatelycute (5)
cute. 5.
* Motivation: They pretty clearly believe in whatever Fate is currentlydoing (5)
doing. 5.
* Characterisation: They haven’t had much, but they’re not evil nor crazy. It’s hard to say they’re {{Rounded Character}}s but they are pretty lost and confused, even if they try to act like {{NobleDemon}}s (4.5)
Demon}}s. 4.5.
* Contentness: Life is ''very'' hard. Maybe not angst-festival hard, but it's pretty bad for them even if they like theirideal (4)
ideal. 4.
*Morality: (4)
Morality of the story: 4.
* Idealism:(5)
5.
*Total: 43.5/10 = 4.35. Practically certain. [[spoiler: It’s already started...]]
* Gender:
* Age:
* Role: Quirky Miniboss Squad fits the most right
* Aesthetics: Definately
* Motivation: They pretty clearly believe in whatever Fate is currently
* Characterisation: They haven’t had much, but they’re not evil nor crazy. It’s hard to say they’re {{Rounded Character}}s but they are pretty lost and confused, even if they try to act like {{Noble
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* Idealism:
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* Species: Human, probably (3)
* Gender: Male (2)
* Age: Middle-aged (3). Or Older (1). (2) is a nice round number.
* Role: Another high-ranking supporter (4).
* Aesthetics: The fact that we don’t know what this guy looks like automatically invokes (2).
* Motivation: Means well, but seems less likely to be nice. Still, (4)
* Characterization: So far, hasn’t shown much in the way of mercy, but is definitely not insane, so (3)
* Contentness: No idea (3)
* Morality: (4)
* Idealism (5)
* Total: 32/10 = 3.2. Not as low as one might have thought, but this could change as new information comes to light.
* Gender: Male (2)
* Age: Middle-aged (3). Or Older (1). (2) is a nice round number.
* Role: Another high-ranking supporter (4).
* Aesthetics: The fact that we don’t know what this guy looks like automatically invokes (2).
* Motivation: Means well, but seems less likely to be nice. Still, (4)
* Characterization: So far, hasn’t shown much in the way of mercy, but is definitely not insane, so (3)
* Contentness: No idea (3)
* Morality: (4)
* Idealism (5)
* Total: 32/10 = 3.2. Not as low as one might have thought, but this could change as new information comes to light.
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* Species: Human, probably (3)
3.
* Gender: Male(2)
2.
* Age: Middle-aged(3). 3. Or Older (1). (2) 1. 2 is a nice round number.
* Role: Another high-rankingsupporter (4).
supporter. 4.
* Aesthetics: The fact that we don’t know what this guy looks like automatically invokes(2).
2.
* Motivation: Means well, but seems less likely to be nice. Still,(4)
4.
* Characterization: So far, hasn’t shown much in the way of mercy, but is definitely not insane, so(3)
3.
* Contentness: Noidea (3)
idea. 3.
*Morality: (4)
Morality of the story: 4.
* Idealism(5)
5.
*Total: 32/10 = 3.2. Not as low as one might have thought, but this could change as new information comes to light.
* Gender: Male
* Age: Middle-aged
* Role: Another high-ranking
* Aesthetics: The fact that we don’t know what this guy looks like automatically invokes
* Motivation: Means well, but seems less likely to be nice. Still,
* Characterization: So far, hasn’t shown much in the way of mercy, but is definitely not insane, so
* Contentness: No
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* Idealism
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* Species: Human (3)
* Gender: Female (4)
* Age: Teenage (5)
* Role: At first she seems like a RivalTurnedEvil, but recent developments put her quite firmly in the opportunist camp (2)
* Aesthetics: Cute (5)
* Motivation: [[AttemptedRape Yeah, we know what she tried to do.]] (1)
* Characterization: She’s well crazy but this seems to have been something that developed over time... let’s go with (1.5)
* Contentess: She sure looks like she's having fun... (1)
* Morality: (4)
* Idealism (5)
* Total: 31.5/10 = 3.15. The least likely in the group, but not impossible especially if she has a FreudianExcuse or VillainousBreakdown.
* Gender: Female (4)
* Age: Teenage (5)
* Role: At first she seems like a RivalTurnedEvil, but recent developments put her quite firmly in the opportunist camp (2)
* Aesthetics: Cute (5)
* Motivation: [[AttemptedRape Yeah, we know what she tried to do.]] (1)
* Characterization: She’s well crazy but this seems to have been something that developed over time... let’s go with (1.5)
* Contentess: She sure looks like she's having fun... (1)
* Morality: (4)
* Idealism (5)
* Total: 31.5/10 = 3.15. The least likely in the group, but not impossible especially if she has a FreudianExcuse or VillainousBreakdown.
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* Species: Human (3)
Human. 3.
* Gender:Female (4)
Female. 4.
* Age:Teenage (5)
Teenage. 5.
* Role: At first she seems like a RivalTurnedEvil, but recent developments put her quite firmly in the opportunistcamp (2)
camp. 2.
* Aesthetics:Cute (5)
Cute. 5.
* Motivation: [[AttemptedRape Yeah, we know what she tried to do.]](1)
1.
* Characterization: She’s well crazy but this seems to have been something that developed over time... let’s go with(1.5)
1.5.
* Contentess: She sure looks like she's having fun...(1)
1.
*Morality: (4)
Morality of the story: 4.
* Idealism(5)
5.
*Total: 31.5/10 = 3.15. The least likely in the group, but not impossible especially if she has a FreudianExcuse or VillainousBreakdown.
* Gender:
* Age:
* Role: At first she seems like a RivalTurnedEvil, but recent developments put her quite firmly in the opportunist
* Aesthetics:
* Motivation: [[AttemptedRape Yeah, we know what she tried to do.]]
* Characterization: She’s well crazy but this seems to have been something that developed over time... let’s go with
* Contentess: She sure looks like she's having fun...
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* Idealism
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Total score: 3.6. ...That was absolutely no help at all.
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Total score: 29/10 = 2.9 While not quite at 50/50, it’s definately a high mark. Being [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe an asari]] helps her there. But her [[ForTheEvulz motivation]] and [[PsychoForHire characterization]] keep her from floating as high as I’d expected.
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Total score: 23/9 = 2.56 So evidently it isn’t likely to go Heretic on us any time soon, though it’s not impossible, if this algorithm is to be believed.
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* Morality: The ''Mass Effect'' series, especially in the second and third games, seems to be MoralityKitchenSink. Plenty of good, evil, and anywhere in between - 3
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* Morality: Morality of the story: The ''Mass Effect'' series, especially in the second and third games, seems to be MoralityKitchenSink. Plenty of good, evil, and anywhere in between - 3
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Total score: 35/10 = 3.5. So we shouldn’t have been too surprised, but it wasn’t excruciatingly obvious.
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* Morality of the story: There’s no real BigBad in ''[=DA2=]''; while the likes of [[CompleteMonster Ser Alrik]] do occasionally show up, it’s mostly more GrayAndGreyMorality. 4.
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* Morality of the story: There’s no real BigBad in ''[=DA2=]''; while the likes of [[CompleteMonster Ser Alrik]] do occasionally show up, it’s mostly more GrayAndGreyMorality.GreyAndGrayMorality. 4.
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* Morality: All over the place, game-wise. And we’re not even sure how to dial him in his own story, considering while White can be good, it goes jackass with him. Ignore.
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* Total: 3.6
So she falls just about in the middle, just slightly more likely to HeelFaceTurn. Made the outcome very surprising!
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* Total: 32/9 = 3.6
6. So she falls just about in the middle, just slightly more likely to HeelFaceTurn. Made the outcome very surprising!
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26/9=2.89. Almost exactly a 50/50 shot.
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For Marvel Cinematic Universe folks who have seen ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': we maybe weren’t expecting to see Loki pull a HeelFaceTurn. Or has he? Is he actually planning to stay on Team Good Guy? What’s in his future - becoming TheAtoner, RedemptionEqualsDeath, just plain being a RetiredMonster, or... screwing over the heroes yet again?
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For Marvel Cinematic Universe Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse folks who have seen ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': we maybe weren’t expecting to see Loki pull a HeelFaceTurn. Or has he? Is he actually planning to stay on Team Good Guy? What’s in his future - becoming TheAtoner, RedemptionEqualsDeath, just plain being a RetiredMonster, or... screwing over the heroes yet again?
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Jumping on the Creator/BioWare bandwagon, let’s play with ''VideoGame/DragonAge''!
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Jumping on the Creator/BioWare bandwagon, let’s play with ''VideoGame/DragonAge''!
''Franchise/DragonAge''!
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* Literature/TheLordOfTheRings: Just to see if Gandalf with his wisdom should have predicted Saruman’s FaceHeelTurn:
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* Idealism: The series becomes more on the idealistic side by the end, so 4.
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* 29/10 = 2.9 She was dangerously close, and Keisaku’s confession of his love to her saved her from going back to Heel.
* Idealism: Same as above. 2.
* 29/10 = 2.9 She was dangerously close, and Keisaku’s confession of his love to her saved her from going back to Heel.
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*Idealism: Idealism of the story: Same as above. 2.
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* Idealism: Same as above, so 4.
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* Idealism: Pretty idealistic, the hero of the story is a messiah. 4.
26.5/9 = 2.9444444444. Cuteness and Allen might yet save her but the MoralEventHorizon is looming not far away.
26.5/9 = 2.9444444444. Cuteness and Allen might yet save her but the MoralEventHorizon is looming not far away.
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* 26.5/9 = 2.9444444444. Cuteness and Allen might yet save her but the MoralEventHorizon is looming not far away.
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* Morality of the Story: Definitely some shades of grey with characters like Doyle. 3.
* Idealism of the Story: There’s some serious moments, but it’s a mostly silly light-hearted series, so 4.
* 31.5/10 = 3.15
** VERY close to the middle but leaning ever-so-slightly toward a turn back to the good guys. It’s definitely 50/50 and one of the more intriguing questions left to be answered as the show gears up for a third season.
* Idealism of the Story: There’s some serious moments, but it’s a mostly silly light-hearted series, so 4.
* 31.5/10 = 3.15
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* Idealism of theStory: story: There’s some serious moments, but it’s a mostly silly light-hearted series, so 4.
* 31.5/10 = 3.15
**15. VERY close to the middle but leaning ever-so-slightly toward a turn back to the good guys. It’s definitely 50/50 and one of the more intriguing questions left to be answered as the show gears up for a third season.
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* Cynicism of the Story: Very idealistic. 1.
* 21/9 = 2.3333333333 (In realty, it was 27/9 = 3). They never saw it coming. Sokka was just paying extra attention.
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* Age: Teenager. 5
* Role: ArrogantKungFuGuy. 5
* Asthetics: Fangirls will scream EvilIsSexy, but if you ask him, RedRightHand, so 2
* Motivation: OK, this one is too easy. [[WellDoneSonGuy You could be the trope namer for this, Zuko.]] 5
* Characterization: Not only does he have some EvilVirtues, he is completely lost. 4.5
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* Age: Teenager. 5
* Role: ArrogantKungFuGuy. 5
* Asthetics: Fangirls will scream EvilIsSexy, but if you ask him, RedRightHand, so 2
* Motivation: OK, this one is too easy. [[WellDoneSonGuy You could be the trope namer for this, Zuko.]] 5
* Characterization: Not only does he have some EvilVirtues, he is completely lost. 4.5
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* Role: ArrogantKungFuGuy.
* Asthetics: Fangirls will scream EvilIsSexy, but if you ask him, RedRightHand, so
* Motivation: OK, this one is too easy. [[WellDoneSonGuy You could be the trope namer for this, Zuko.]]
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* Age: He turned as a child, but now he is a teenager. 5.
* Role: Freelancer, rival turned evil. 5.
* Aesthetics: Sasuke is one cute teenie, isn't he? 5.
* Motivation: By now he nearly is WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds. 3.
* Characterization: Stupid... uhm, lost and confused. 5.
* Contentness: Life is hard. 4.
* Morality of the story: The good, Naruto and co., the bad, Team Hawk, and the evil, Akatsuki. 4.
* Idealism of the story: Naruto is very idealistic. 5.
* 38/9 = 4.2222222222. He’s coming back, believe it.
** Update: [[spoiler:If Chapter 627 is anything to go by, he comes back. The reunion of Team 7 four chapters later puts the icing on the cake.]]
Another ''Naruto'' character, since there is a theory on the WMG page that Kisame will turn face. Let’s see how this measures up.
* Species:Despite the sentient frogs, Hardly looks human is at all, and he’s said in terms of power to be like “A tailed beast, without the standard. I’ll leave this out.tails.” I’d say he’s inhuman. 1.
* Age: He turned as a child, but now he is a teenager. 5.
* Role: Freelancer, rival turned evil. 5.
* Aesthetics: Sasuke is one cute teenie, isn't he? 5.
* Motivation: By now he nearly is WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds. 3.
* Characterization: Stupid... uhm, lost and confused. 5.
* Contentness: Life is hard. 4.
* Morality of the story: The good, Naruto and co., the bad, Team Hawk, and the evil, Akatsuki. 4.
* Idealism of the story: Naruto is very idealistic. 5.
* 38/9 = 4.2222222222. He’s coming back, believe it.
** Update: [[spoiler:If Chapter 627 is anything to go by, he comes back. The reunion of Team 7 four chapters later puts the icing on the cake.]]
Another ''Naruto'' character, since there is a theory on the WMG page that Kisame will turn face. Let’s see how this measures up.
* Species:
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* Age: He turned as a child, but now he is a teenager. 5
* Role: Freelancer, rival turned evil. 5
* Aesthetics: Sasuke is one cute teenie, isn't he? 5
* Motivation: By now he nearly is WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds. 3
* Characterization: Stupid... uhm, lost and confused. 5
* Contentness: Life is hard. 4
* Morality: The good, Naruto and co., the bad, Team Hawk, and the evil, Akatsuki. 4
* Naruto is very idealistic. 5
* 38/9 = 4.2222222222. He’s coming back, believe it.
** Update: [[spoiler:If Chapter 627 is anything to go by, he comes back. The reunion of Team 7 four chapters later puts the icing on the cake.]]
Another ''Naruto'' character, since there is a theory on the WMG page that Kisame will turn face. Let’s see how this measures up.
* Species: Hardly looks human at all, and he’s said in terms of power to be like “A tailed beast, without the tails.” I’d say he’s inhuman. 1.
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young adult - 3
* Role: Freelancer, rival turned evil. 5
* Aesthetics: Sasuke is one cute teenie, isn't he? 5
* Motivation: By now he nearly is WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds. 3
* Characterization: Stupid... uhm, lost and confused. 5
* Contentness: Life is hard. 4
* Morality: The good, Naruto and co., the bad, Team Hawk, and the evil, Akatsuki. 4
* Naruto is very idealistic. 5
* 38/9 = 4.2222222222. He’s coming back, believe it.
** Update: [[spoiler:If Chapter 627 is anything to go by, he comes back. The reunion of Team 7 four chapters later puts the icing on the cake.]]
Another ''Naruto'' character, since there is a theory on the WMG page that Kisame will turn face. Let’s see how this measures up.
* Species: Hardly looks human at all, and he’s said in terms of power to be like “A tailed beast, without the tails.” I’d say he’s inhuman. 1.
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young adult - 3
to:
* Role: Freelancer, rival turned evil. 5
* Aesthetics: Sasuke is one cute teenie, isn't he? 5
* Motivation: By now he nearly is WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds. 3
* Characterization: Stupid... uhm, lost and confused. 5
* Contentness: Life is hard. 4
* Morality: The good, Naruto and co., the bad, Team Hawk, and the evil, Akatsuki. 4
* Naruto is very idealistic. 5
* 38/9 = 4.2222222222. He’s coming back, believe it.
** Update: [[spoiler:If Chapter 627 is anything to go by, he comes back. The reunion of Team 7 four chapters later puts the icing on the cake.]]
Another ''Naruto'' character, since there is a theory on the WMG page that Kisame will turn face. Let’s see how this measures up.
* Species: Hardly looks human at all, and he’s said in terms of power to be like “A tailed beast, without the tails.” I’d say he’s inhuman. 1.
* Gender: Male - 2
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* Aesthetics: Monstrous - 1
to:
* Aesthetics: Monstrous - Monstrous. 1
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* Characterization: Cold blooded - 3
to:
* Characterization: Cold blooded - blooded. 3
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* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 4
* Idealism - Idealistic. 5.
** Total: 27/10 = 2.7. Not ''too'' out there, but it still looks somewhat unlikely.
* Idealism - Idealistic. 5.
** Total: 27/10 = 2.7. Not ''too'' out there, but it still looks somewhat unlikely.
to:
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - Morality of the story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. 4
* Idealism- of the story: Idealistic. 5.
** Total: * 27/10 = 2.7. Not ''too'' out there, but it still looks somewhat unlikely.
* Idealism
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* Species: Irrelevant.
* Gender: Male - 2
* Gender: Male - 2
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* Role: BigBad - 1
to:
* Role: BigBad - 1BigBad. 1.
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* Characterization: WorthyOpponent with Naruto - 4
* Contentness: Life is hard - 4
* Morality: BlackAndWhiteMorality - 2
* Idealism: Cynical - 1
* Score: 25/9 = 2.777. Slightly under 50/50. Don’t expect this to happen, but don’t call it an AssPull if it does.
* Contentness: Life is hard - 4
* Morality: BlackAndWhiteMorality - 2
* Idealism: Cynical - 1
* Score: 25/9 = 2.777. Slightly under 50/50. Don’t expect this to happen, but don’t call it an AssPull if it does.
to:
* Characterization: WorthyOpponent with Naruto - 4
Naruto. 4.
* Contentness: Life ishard - 4
hard. 4.
*Morality: BlackAndWhiteMorality - 2
Morality of the story: BlackAndWhiteMorality. 2.
*Idealism: Cynical - 1
Idealism of the story: Cynical. 1.
* Score: 25/9 = 2.777.7777777778. Slightly under 50/50. Don’t expect this to happen, but don’t call it an AssPull if it does.
* Contentness: Life is
*
*
* Score: 25/9 = 2.
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* Species: Human - 2
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: BigBad - 1
* Aesthetics: Pre-Jinchuuriki, he was covered with scars, so 3. Post-Jinchuuriki, definitely creepy, so 2
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: BigBad - 1
* Aesthetics: Pre-Jinchuuriki, he was covered with scars, so 3. Post-Jinchuuriki, definitely creepy, so 2
to:
* Species: Human - 2
Human. 2.
* Gender:Male - 2
Male. 2.
* Age: YoungAdult - 4
Adult. 4.
* Role:BigBad - 1
BigBad. 1.
* Aesthetics: Pre-Jinchuuriki, he was covered with scars, so 3. Post-Jinchuuriki, definitely creepy, so22.
* Gender:
* Age: Young
* Role:
* Aesthetics: Pre-Jinchuuriki, he was covered with scars, so 3. Post-Jinchuuriki, definitely creepy, so
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* Characterization: WorthyOpponent with Naruto - 4
* Contentness: Life is hard - 4
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 4
* Contentness: Life is hard - 4
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 4
to:
* Characterization: WorthyOpponent with Naruto - 4
Naruto. 4.
* Contentness: Life ishard - 4
hard. 4.
* Morality:TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 4TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. 4.
* Contentness: Life is
* Morality:
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** 31/10 = 3.1 Pre-Jinchuuriki; 30/10 = 3 Post-Jinchuuriki. Hmmm. Only time will tell whether he will go good or not. At this point he can go either way.
to:
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* Morality: A very BlackAndGrayMorality. 1.
* Idealism: He seems to be more of a realist than anything. 3.
* Average: 26.0/10 = 2.6
* Idealism: He seems to be more of a realist than anything. 3.
* Average: 26.0/10 = 2.6
to:
* Morality: Morality of the story: A very BlackAndGrayMorality. 1.
*Idealism: Idealism of the story: He seems to be more of a realist than anything. 3.
*Average: 26.0/10 = 2.6
6.
*
*
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* Morality: BlackAndGrayMorality. 1.
* Idealism: Cynical through and through. 1.
* Average: 28.5/10 or 29.5/10 = 2.85 or 2.95.
* Idealism: Cynical through and through. 1.
* Average: 28.5/10 or 29.5/10 = 2.85 or 2.95.
to:
* Morality: Morality of the story: BlackAndGrayMorality. 1.
*Idealism: Idealism of the story: Cynical through and through. 1.
*Average: 28.5/10 or 29.5/10 = 2.85 or 2.95.
*
*
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* Morality: BlackAndGrayMorality. 1.
* Idealism: Actually turned out to be rather bitter and cynical, though not as much as Ulquiorra. 2.
* Average: 19.0/10 = 1.9, and it would be lower were he not so [[{{Bishonen}} pretty]]. That said, he ''might'' help the heroes, but it would almost certainly be [[EnemyMine for his benefit]] and not a true HeelFaceTurn.
* Idealism: Actually turned out to be rather bitter and cynical, though not as much as Ulquiorra. 2.
* Average: 19.0/10 = 1.9, and it would be lower were he not so [[{{Bishonen}} pretty]]. That said, he ''might'' help the heroes, but it would almost certainly be [[EnemyMine for his benefit]] and not a true HeelFaceTurn.
to:
* Morality: Morality of the story: BlackAndGrayMorality. 1.
*Idealism: Idealism of the story: Actually turned out to be rather bitter and cynical, though not as much as Ulquiorra. 2.
*Average: 19.0/10 19/10 = 1.9, and it would be lower were he not so [[{{Bishonen}} pretty]]. That said, he ''might'' help the heroes, but it would almost certainly be [[EnemyMine for his benefit]] and not a true HeelFaceTurn.
*
*
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* Gender: Female - 4.
* Age: Older - 1.
* Role: High-ranking - 4.
* Asthetics: EvilIsSexy - 4.
* Motivation: No idea what her motivation is - 3.
* Characterisation: EvenEvilHasStandards - 4.
* Contendness: Life is hard - 4.
* Morality of the story: GreyAndGrayMorality - 3.
* Age: Older - 1.
* Role: High-ranking - 4.
* Asthetics: EvilIsSexy - 4.
* Motivation: No idea what her motivation is - 3.
* Characterisation: EvenEvilHasStandards - 4.
* Contendness: Life is hard - 4.
* Morality of the story: GreyAndGrayMorality - 3.
to:
* Gender: Female - Female. 4.
* Age:Older - Older. 1.
* Role:High-ranking - High-ranking. 4.
* Asthetics:EvilIsSexy - EvilIsSexy. 4.
* Motivation: No idea what her motivationis - is. 3.
* Characterisation:EvenEvilHasStandards - EvenEvilHasStandards. 4.
* Contendness: Life ishard - hard. 4.
* Morality of the story:GreyAndGrayMorality - GreyAndGrayMorality. 3.
* Age:
* Role:
* Asthetics:
* Motivation: No idea what her motivation
* Characterisation:
* Contendness: Life is
* Morality of the story:
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* Species: Only humans exist in this manga.
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: BigBad - 1
* Aesthetics: He can easily pass for his attractive sister whenever he crossdresses. Even without crossdressing, he looks pretty handsome already - 5
* Motivation: Verges between nihilism (such as having Tenma kill him to prove that his Nihilism succeeds) and ForTheEvulz. To balance it out - 2
* Characterization: Pretty cold-blooded due to his DissonantSerenity he so frequently does whenever he commits something horrible - 3
* Contentness: To just give a reason for his depraved acts... "Why not?" - 1
* Morality - Surprisingly, the series comes off as RousseauWasRight - 5
* Idealism - Verges towards idealistic by the end - 4
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: BigBad - 1
* Aesthetics: He can easily pass for his attractive sister whenever he crossdresses. Even without crossdressing, he looks pretty handsome already - 5
* Motivation: Verges between nihilism (such as having Tenma kill him to prove that his Nihilism succeeds) and ForTheEvulz. To balance it out - 2
* Characterization: Pretty cold-blooded due to his DissonantSerenity he so frequently does whenever he commits something horrible - 3
* Contentness: To just give a reason for his depraved acts... "Why not?" - 1
* Morality - Surprisingly, the series comes off as RousseauWasRight - 5
* Idealism - Verges towards idealistic by the end - 4
to:
* Age: Young
* Role:
* Aesthetics: He can easily pass for his attractive sister whenever he crossdresses. Even without crossdressing, he looks pretty handsome
* Motivation: Verges between nihilism (such as having Tenma kill him to prove that his Nihilism succeeds) and ForTheEvulz. To balance it
* Characterization: Pretty cold-blooded due to his DissonantSerenity he so frequently does whenever he commits something
* Contentness: To just give a reason for his depraved acts... "Why not?"
* Morality
* Idealism
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* Species: Human - 3.
* Gender: Female - 4.
* Age: Young Adult - 4.
* Role: Freelancer, TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou - 5.
* Asthetics: EvilIsSexy - 4.
* Motivation: Somewhere between ambitious and TheRival - 2.5.
* Characterization: Somewhat cold-blooded - 3.
* Contentness: Neutral, for now - 3.
* Morality: Shades of gray, what with Kevin and all - 3.
* Idealism: Really idealistic, actually. - 5.
* Total: 36.5/10 = 3.65. There’s a decent chance she may turn once more of her character background is revealed (which, according to WordOfGod, will happen in ''Ben 10: Ultimate Alien''.) She’s definitely not as evil as Kevin was, and he turned face (of course, a lot of the reasoning behind his turn [[NotAsYouKnowThem ignores his previous characterization altogether.]])
** Update: [[spoiler: It happened, then later it was undone, then the undoing was undone and she’s moved back toward turning to the good side. Yeah, [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor it’s one of those cases]].]]
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We know that Griffith of ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'' went bad in a ''big'' way at the end of the anime, but what can the numbers tell us about whether or not we (and the Hawks) should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn coming?
* Gender: Female - 4.
* Age: Young Adult - 4.
* Role: Freelancer, TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou - 5.
* Asthetics: EvilIsSexy - 4.
* Motivation: Somewhere between ambitious and TheRival - 2.5.
* Characterization: Somewhat cold-blooded - 3.
* Contentness: Neutral, for now - 3.
* Morality: Shades of gray, what with Kevin and all - 3.
* Idealism: Really idealistic, actually. - 5.
* Total: 36.5/10 = 3.65. There’s a decent chance she may turn once more of her character background is revealed (which, according to WordOfGod, will happen in ''Ben 10: Ultimate Alien''.) She’s definitely not as evil as Kevin was, and he turned face (of course, a lot of the reasoning behind his turn [[NotAsYouKnowThem ignores his previous characterization altogether.]])
** Update: [[spoiler: It happened, then later it was undone, then the undoing was undone and she’s moved back toward turning to the good side. Yeah, [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor it’s one of those cases]].]]
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We know that Griffith of ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'' went bad in a ''big'' way at the end of the anime, but what can the numbers tell us about whether or not we (and the Hawks) should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn coming?
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* Gender: Male. 4.
* Age: Young Adult, much like Guts. 5.
* Role: Griffith is the leader of the Hawks, and though Guts is the protagonist of the series in general, the Hero role in the FiveManBand is most definitely Griffith. 1.
* Aesthetics: WhiteHairBlackHeart. 5.
* Motivation: He wants to rule a kingdom of his own, so I would chalk it up to glory. 5.
* Characterization: He’s rather arrogant, though not in a hot-headed way, and the “playing with dangerous stuff” definitely qualifies if you take that [[ArtifactOfDoom Crimson Behelit]] into consideration. 4.
* Contentness: And here’s where things get tricky. When we first meet Griffith, he’s doing well, which would net him about a 2 result. Then Guts leaves him, he has sex with the princess and gets put to the torture for a year, and he gets pushed past the DespairEventHorizon when he finds out about Guts and Casca’s relationship, which brings him to about the 5 mark near the end.
* Morality of the story: [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] all the way. 5.
* Cynicism of the story: And pretty far on the cynical end of the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism Sliding Scale]] to boot. 5.
* Total: Griffith at the start of the Hawks arc: 39/10 = 3.9, while Griffith near the end: 42/10 = 4.2. In either case, Guts and company ''definitely'' should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn from Griffith coming.
Now, can he ever redeem himself:
* Species: He’s now a member of the God Hand, which are pretty much the DemonLordsAndArchdevils. 1.
* Gender: Male. 2.
* Age: Young Adult, much like Guts. 5.
* Role: Griffith is the leader of the Hawks, and though Guts is the protagonist of the series in general, the Hero role in the FiveManBand is most definitely Griffith. 1.
* Aesthetics: WhiteHairBlackHeart. 5.
* Motivation: He wants to rule a kingdom of his own, so I would chalk it up to glory. 5.
* Characterization: He’s rather arrogant, though not in a hot-headed way, and the “playing with dangerous stuff” definitely qualifies if you take that [[ArtifactOfDoom Crimson Behelit]] into consideration. 4.
* Contentness: And here’s where things get tricky. When we first meet Griffith, he’s doing well, which would net him about a 2 result. Then Guts leaves him, he has sex with the princess and gets put to the torture for a year, and he gets pushed past the DespairEventHorizon when he finds out about Guts and Casca’s relationship, which brings him to about the 5 mark near the end.
* Morality of the story: [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] all the way. 5.
* Cynicism of the story: And pretty far on the cynical end of the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism Sliding Scale]] to boot. 5.
* Total: Griffith at the start of the Hawks arc: 39/10 = 3.9, while Griffith near the end: 42/10 = 4.2. In either case, Guts and company ''definitely'' should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn from Griffith coming.
Now, can he ever redeem himself:
* Species: He’s now a member of the God Hand, which are pretty much the DemonLordsAndArchdevils. 1.
* Gender: Male. 2.
to:
* Gender: Male. 4.
* Age: Young Adult, much like Guts. 5.
* Role: Griffith is the leader of the Hawks, and though Guts is the protagonist of the series in general, the Hero role in the FiveManBand is most definitely Griffith. 1.
* Aesthetics: WhiteHairBlackHeart. 5.
* Motivation: He wants to rule a kingdom of his own, so I would chalk it up to glory. 5.
* Characterization: He’s rather arrogant, though not in a hot-headed way, and the “playing with dangerous stuff” definitely qualifies if you take that [[ArtifactOfDoom Crimson Behelit]] into consideration. 4.
* Contentness: And here’s where things get tricky. When we first meet Griffith, he’s doing well, which would net him about a 2 result. Then Guts leaves him, he has sex with the princess and gets put to the torture for a year, and he gets pushed past the DespairEventHorizon when he finds out about Guts and Casca’s relationship, which brings him to about the 5 mark near the end.
* Morality of the story: [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] all the way. 5.
* Cynicism of the story: And pretty far on the cynical end of the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism Sliding Scale]] to boot. 5.
* Total: Griffith at the start of the Hawks arc: 39/10 = 3.9, while Griffith near the end: 42/10 =Female. 4.2. In either case, Guts and company ''definitely'' should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn from Griffith coming.
Now, can he ever redeem himself:
* Species: He’s now a member of the God Hand, which are pretty much the DemonLordsAndArchdevils. 1.
* Gender: Male. 2.
* Age: Young Adult, much like Guts. 5.
* Role: Griffith is the leader of the Hawks, and though Guts is the protagonist of the series in general, the Hero role in the FiveManBand is most definitely Griffith. 1.
* Aesthetics: WhiteHairBlackHeart. 5.
* Motivation: He wants to rule a kingdom of his own, so I would chalk it up to glory. 5.
* Characterization: He’s rather arrogant, though not in a hot-headed way, and the “playing with dangerous stuff” definitely qualifies if you take that [[ArtifactOfDoom Crimson Behelit]] into consideration. 4.
* Contentness: And here’s where things get tricky. When we first meet Griffith, he’s doing well, which would net him about a 2 result. Then Guts leaves him, he has sex with the princess and gets put to the torture for a year, and he gets pushed past the DespairEventHorizon when he finds out about Guts and Casca’s relationship, which brings him to about the 5 mark near the end.
* Morality of the story: [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] all the way. 5.
* Cynicism of the story: And pretty far on the cynical end of the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism Sliding Scale]] to boot. 5.
* Total: Griffith at the start of the Hawks arc: 39/10 = 3.9, while Griffith near the end: 42/10 =
Now, can he ever redeem himself:
* Species: He’s now a member of the God Hand, which are pretty much the DemonLordsAndArchdevils. 1.
* Gender: Male. 2.
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* Role: The BigBad. 1.
* Aesthetics: Griffith looks incredibly beautiful but said beauty just screams that there is something ''completely wrong'' about him. 2.
* Motivation: He’s a CompleteMonster. 1.
* Characterization: Griffith essentially epitomizes DespotismJustifiesTheMeans. 2.
* Contentness: He’s doing well. 2.
* Morality of the story: BlackAndGrayMorality. 1.
* Idealism of the story: Fucking ''1''.
* Total: 17/10 = '''1.7'''. Nope, Griffith isn’t going to be redeemed at all. He’s frozen his heart in favor of his own selfish desires.
Now let’s see how close [[VillainProtagonist Guts]] himself was to becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters just like those he fights]]...
* Aesthetics: Griffith looks incredibly beautiful but said beauty just screams that there is something ''completely wrong'' about him. 2.
* Motivation: He’s a CompleteMonster. 1.
* Characterization: Griffith essentially epitomizes DespotismJustifiesTheMeans. 2.
* Contentness: He’s doing well. 2.
* Morality of the story: BlackAndGrayMorality. 1.
* Idealism of the story: Fucking ''1''.
* Total: 17/10 = '''1.7'''. Nope, Griffith isn’t going to be redeemed at all. He’s frozen his heart in favor of his own selfish desires.
Now let’s see how close [[VillainProtagonist Guts]] himself was to becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters just like those he fights]]...
to:
* Role: The BigBad. 1.
Freelancer, TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou. 5.
*Aesthetics: Griffith looks incredibly beautiful but said beauty just screams that there is something ''completely wrong'' about him. 2.
Asthetics: EvilIsSexy. 4.
* Motivation:He’s a CompleteMonster. 1.
Somewhere between ambitious and TheRival. 2.5.
* Characterization:Griffith essentially epitomizes DespotismJustifiesTheMeans. 2.
Somewhat cold-blooded. 3.
* Contentness:He’s doing well. 2.
Neutral, for now. 3.
*Morality Morality: Shades of the story: BlackAndGrayMorality. 1.
gray, what with Kevin and all. 3.
*Idealism of the story: Fucking ''1''.
Idealism: Really idealistic, actually. 5.
* Total:17/10 36.5/10 = '''1.7'''. Nope, 3.65. There’s a decent chance she may turn once more of her character background is revealed (which, according to WordOfGod, will happen in ''Ben 10: Ultimate Alien''.) She’s definitely not as evil as Kevin was, and he turned face (of course, a lot of the reasoning behind his turn [[NotAsYouKnowThem ignores his previous characterization altogether.]])
** Update: [[spoiler: It happened, then later it was undone, then the undoing was undone and she’s moved back toward turning to the good side. Yeah, [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor it’s one of those cases]].]]
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We know that Griffithisn’t going to be redeemed of ''{{Manga/Berserk}}'' went bad in a ''big'' way at all. He’s frozen his heart in favor the end of his own selfish desires.
Now let’s see how close [[VillainProtagonist Guts]] himself was to becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters just like those he fights]]...the anime, but what can the numbers tell us about whether or not we (and the Hawks) should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn coming?
*
* Motivation:
* Characterization:
* Contentness:
*
*
* Total:
** Update: [[spoiler: It happened, then later it was undone, then the undoing was undone and she’s moved back toward turning to the good side. Yeah, [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor it’s one of those cases]].]]
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We know that Griffith
Now let’s see how close [[VillainProtagonist Guts]] himself was to becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters just like those he fights]]...
* Age: Young Adult, much like Guts. 5.
* Role: Griffith is the leader of the Hawks, and though Guts is the protagonist of the series in general, the Hero role in the FiveManBand is most definitely Griffith. 1.
* Aesthetics: WhiteHairBlackHeart. 5.
* Motivation: He wants to rule a kingdom of his own, so I would chalk it up to glory. 5.
* Characterization: He’s rather arrogant, though not in a hot-headed way, and the “playing with dangerous stuff” definitely qualifies if you take that [[ArtifactOfDoom Crimson Behelit]] into consideration. 4.
* Contentness: And here’s where things get tricky. When we first meet Griffith, he’s doing well, which would net him about a 2 result. Then Guts leaves him, he has sex with the princess and gets put to the torture for a year, and he gets pushed past the DespairEventHorizon when he finds out about Guts and Casca’s relationship, which brings him to about the 5 mark near the end.
* Morality of the story: [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] all the way. 5.
* Cynicism of the story: And pretty far on the cynical end of the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism Sliding Scale]] to boot. 5.
* Total: Griffith at the start of the Hawks arc: 39/10 = 3.9, while Griffith near the end: 42/10 = 4.2. In either case, Guts and company ''definitely'' should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn from Griffith coming.
Now, can he ever redeem himself:
* Species: He’s now a member of the God Hand, which are pretty much the DemonLordsAndArchdevils. 1.
* Gender: Male. 2.
* Age: Young Adult. 4.
* Role: The BigBad. 1.
* Aesthetics: Griffith looks incredibly beautiful but said beauty just screams that there is something ''completely wrong'' about him. 2.
* Motivation: He’s a CompleteMonster. 1.
* Characterization: Griffith essentially epitomizes DespotismJustifiesTheMeans. 2.
* Contentness: He’s doing well. 2.
* Morality of the story: BlackAndGrayMorality. 1.
* Idealism of the story: Fucking ''1''.
* 17/10 = 1.7. Nope, Griffith isn’t going to be redeemed at all. He’s frozen his heart in favor of his own selfish desires.
Now let’s see how close [[VillainProtagonist Guts]] himself was to becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters just like those he fights]]...
* Species: Human. 3.
* Gender: Male. 4.
* Role: Griffith is the leader of the Hawks, and though Guts is the protagonist of the series in general, the Hero role in the FiveManBand is most definitely Griffith. 1.
* Aesthetics: WhiteHairBlackHeart. 5.
* Motivation: He wants to rule a kingdom of his own, so I would chalk it up to glory. 5.
* Characterization: He’s rather arrogant, though not in a hot-headed way, and the “playing with dangerous stuff” definitely qualifies if you take that [[ArtifactOfDoom Crimson Behelit]] into consideration. 4.
* Contentness: And here’s where things get tricky. When we first meet Griffith, he’s doing well, which would net him about a 2 result. Then Guts leaves him, he has sex with the princess and gets put to the torture for a year, and he gets pushed past the DespairEventHorizon when he finds out about Guts and Casca’s relationship, which brings him to about the 5 mark near the end.
* Morality of the story: [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] all the way. 5.
* Cynicism of the story: And pretty far on the cynical end of the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism Sliding Scale]] to boot. 5.
* Total: Griffith at the start of the Hawks arc: 39/10 = 3.9, while Griffith near the end: 42/10 = 4.2. In either case, Guts and company ''definitely'' should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn from Griffith coming.
Now, can he ever redeem himself:
* Species: He’s now a member of the God Hand, which are pretty much the DemonLordsAndArchdevils. 1.
* Gender: Male. 2.
* Age: Young Adult. 4.
* Role: The BigBad. 1.
* Aesthetics: Griffith looks incredibly beautiful but said beauty just screams that there is something ''completely wrong'' about him. 2.
* Motivation: He’s a CompleteMonster. 1.
* Characterization: Griffith essentially epitomizes DespotismJustifiesTheMeans. 2.
* Contentness: He’s doing well. 2.
* Morality of the story: BlackAndGrayMorality. 1.
* Idealism of the story: Fucking ''1''.
* 17/10 = 1.7. Nope, Griffith isn’t going to be redeemed at all. He’s frozen his heart in favor of his own selfish desires.
Now let’s see how close [[VillainProtagonist Guts]] himself was to becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters just like those he fights]]...
* Species: Human. 3.
* Gender: Male. 4.
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* Total score: 35/10 = 3.5. So he wasn’t quite as bad as Griffith, but it’s still good that he [[WhatTheHellHero woke up]] when he did...
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* Total score: 35/10 = 3.5. So he wasn’t quite as bad as Griffith, but it’s still good that he [[WhatTheHellHero woke up]] when he did...
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* Morality of the story: 5
* Cynicism of the story: 5
* Total score: 31/10 = 3.1. OK. So it’s an improvement, but things are still tense. The battle with the Inner Beast could really go either way at this point...
* Cynicism of the story: 5
* Total score: 31/10 = 3.1. OK. So it’s an improvement, but things are still tense. The battle with the Inner Beast could really go either way at this point...
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* Morality of the story: 5
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* Cynicism of the story:5
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*Total score: 31/10 = 3.1. OK. So it’s an improvement, but things are still tense. The battle with the Inner Beast could really go either way at this point...
* Cynicism of the story:
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* Morality: BlackAndGrayMorality in full force in this series. 5.
* Idealism: Despite the [[ArtStyleDissonance kiddy art style]], ''AGE'' rivals the Universal Century when it comes to cynicism. 5.
* 35/9 = 3.9. Well, [[JustForPun looks like someone prefers tofu over meat.]] [[SincerityMode In all seriousness,]] Flit better watch his back, because Frederick is going to show his true colors ''very soon.''
* Idealism: Despite the [[ArtStyleDissonance kiddy art style]], ''AGE'' rivals the Universal Century when it comes to cynicism. 5.
* 35/9 = 3.9. Well, [[JustForPun looks like someone prefers tofu over meat.]] [[SincerityMode In all seriousness,]] Flit better watch his back, because Frederick is going to show his true colors ''very soon.''
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* Morality: Morality of the story: BlackAndGrayMorality in full force in this series. 5.
*Idealism: Idealism of the story: Despite the [[ArtStyleDissonance kiddy art style]], ''AGE'' rivals the Universal Century when it comes to cynicism. 5.
* 35/9 = 3.9.8888888889. Well, [[JustForPun looks like someone prefers tofu over meat.]] [[SincerityMode In all seriousness,]] Flit better watch his back, because Frederick is going to show his true colors ''very soon.''
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'''Aaron Echolls'''
* '''Species:''' Irrelevant, given it’s an all-human show.
* '''Gender:''' Male (2)
* '''Age:''' Middle Aged (3)
* '''Role:''' Big Bad (1)
* '''Aesthetics:''' InformedAttractiveness (4? 5? 4.5)
* '''Motivation:''' Gah, complicated. Beats Logan because he’s a nutjob. Kills Lilly to keep sleeping with her secret. Does other things to get away with killing Lilly. I’ll go with 2.
* '''Characterization:''' *shrug* Once we find out he killed Lilly, he becomes a pretty flat character... but he had some PetTheDog moments before. He’s pretty bats*** crazy, so I’ll go with 2.
* '''Contentment:''' He seems pretty cheerful most of the time, so 2.
* '''Morality:''' Black and Gray? Ish? (1)
* '''Idealism:''' Cynical (1)
18.5/9 = 2. Not really gonna happen. (Well, he’s dead, so...)
'''Cassidy Casablancas'''
* '''Gender:''' Male (2)
* '''Age:''' Teenaged (5)
* '''Role:''' Big Bad (1)
* '''Aesthetics:''' YMMV. I found him pretty EvilIsSexy, but not everyone would have. But I’ll go with 4 anyway.
* '''Motivation:''' Again, kinda complicated. With the biggest thing (the bus crash), it was desperation to avoid people finding out about how he was abused. Which is kinda between 3 and 2. (2.5)
* '''Characterization:''' ...GAH I HATE YOU. He seemed pretty ObviouslyEvil up on the roof (1), but cold-blooded (3) might fit better. He's bats*** crazy (2), but due to FreudianExcuse, gets considered “lost and confused” a lot (5). Especially just before he jumped. Averages say 2.
* '''Contentment:''' Given he kills himself in the end, he wasn’t having it easy. (5)
* '''Morality of story:''' Black and Gray (1)
* '''Idealism:''' Cynical (1)
23.5/9 = 2.6. Unlikely. (And he’s also dead, so I’m not sure these had that much of a point...)
* '''Species:''' Irrelevant, given it’s an all-human show.
* '''Gender:''' Male (2)
* '''Age:''' Middle Aged (3)
* '''Role:''' Big Bad (1)
* '''Aesthetics:''' InformedAttractiveness (4? 5? 4.5)
* '''Motivation:''' Gah, complicated. Beats Logan because he’s a nutjob. Kills Lilly to keep sleeping with her secret. Does other things to get away with killing Lilly. I’ll go with 2.
* '''Characterization:''' *shrug* Once we find out he killed Lilly, he becomes a pretty flat character... but he had some PetTheDog moments before. He’s pretty bats*** crazy, so I’ll go with 2.
* '''Contentment:''' He seems pretty cheerful most of the time, so 2.
* '''Morality:''' Black and Gray? Ish? (1)
* '''Idealism:''' Cynical (1)
18.5/9 = 2. Not really gonna happen. (Well, he’s dead, so...)
'''Cassidy Casablancas'''
* '''Gender:''' Male (2)
* '''Age:''' Teenaged (5)
* '''Role:''' Big Bad (1)
* '''Aesthetics:''' YMMV. I found him pretty EvilIsSexy, but not everyone would have. But I’ll go with 4 anyway.
* '''Motivation:''' Again, kinda complicated. With the biggest thing (the bus crash), it was desperation to avoid people finding out about how he was abused. Which is kinda between 3 and 2. (2.5)
* '''Characterization:''' ...GAH I HATE YOU. He seemed pretty ObviouslyEvil up on the roof (1), but cold-blooded (3) might fit better. He's bats*** crazy (2), but due to FreudianExcuse, gets considered “lost and confused” a lot (5). Especially just before he jumped. Averages say 2.
* '''Contentment:''' Given he kills himself in the end, he wasn’t having it easy. (5)
* '''Morality of story:''' Black and Gray (1)
* '''Idealism:''' Cynical (1)
23.5/9 = 2.6. Unlikely. (And he’s also dead, so I’m not sure these had that much of a point...)
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* Gender:Male (2)Male. 2.
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* '''Total:''' 36/10 or 37/10 = 3.6 or 3.7. Quite likely, really. [[spoiler: The fact that Negi wants to make like Nanoha only improves his chances.]]
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* '''Total:''' Total: 36/10 or 37/10 = 3.6 or 3.7. Quite likely, really. [[spoiler: The fact that Negi wants to make like Nanoha only improves his chances.]]
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* '''Total:''' 43.5/10 = 4.35. Practically certain. [[spoiler: It’s already started...]]
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* '''Total:''' Total: 43.5/10 = 4.35. Practically certain. [[spoiler: It’s already started...]]
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* '''Total:''' 32/10 = 3.2. Not as low as one might have thought, but this could change as new information comes to light.
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* '''Total:''' Total: 32/10 = 3.2. Not as low as one might have thought, but this could change as new information comes to light.
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* '''Total:''' 31.5/10 = 3.15. The least likely in the group, but not impossible especially if she has a FreudianExcuse or VillainousBreakdown.
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* '''Total:''' Total: 31.5/10 = 3.15. The least likely in the group, but not impossible especially if she has a FreudianExcuse or VillainousBreakdown.
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Total score: 29/10 = '''2.9''' While not quite at 50/50, it’s definately a high mark. Being [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe an asari]] helps her there. But her [[ForTheEvulz motivation]] and [[PsychoForHire characterization]] keep her from floating as high as I’d expected.
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Total score: 29/10 = '''2.9''' 2.9 While not quite at 50/50, it’s definately a high mark. Being [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe an asari]] helps her there. But her [[ForTheEvulz motivation]] and [[PsychoForHire characterization]] keep her from floating as high as I’d expected.
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Total score: 23/9 = '''2.56''' So evidently it isn’t likely to go Heretic on us any time soon, though it’s not impossible, if this algorithm is to be believed.
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Total score: 23/9 = '''2.56''' 2.56 So evidently it isn’t likely to go Heretic on us any time soon, though it’s not impossible, if this algorithm is to be believed.
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* Idealism: In his story? FUCKING '''5'''.
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* Idealism: In his story? FUCKING '''5'''.5.
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* Average: 42/10 = '''4.2'''. [[spoiler:Why did we ever think she was evil at all? Even without her joining Kyon to take her own Brigade down in novel 11, it was obvious that the real villains were only using her.]]
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* Average: 42/10 = '''4.2'''.4.2. [[spoiler:Why did we ever think she was evil at all? Even without her joining Kyon to take her own Brigade down in novel 11, it was obvious that the real villains were only using her.]]
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||'''Motivation''' for doing evil|| {{Complete Monster}}: [[EvilFeelsGood Plain likes being evil]]: ForTheEvulz || [[AmbitionIsEvil Unscrupulous]] with [[JustThinkOfThePotential some kind of goal:]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Money]], ForScience, power || Hubris and Worldview: StrawNihilist, SocialDarwinist, TheUnfettered ''or'' sheer anger and despair: WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, RivalTurnedEvil || Means Well: KnightTemplar, WellIntentionedExtremist || Love and Loyalty: MyMasterRightOrWrong, MyCountryRightOrWrong, WellDoneSonGuy or alternatively ForcedIntoEvil ||
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||'''Motivation''' for doing evil|| {{Complete Monster}}: [[EvilFeelsGood Plain likes being evil]]: ForTheEvulz || [[AmbitionIsEvil Unscrupulous]] with [[JustThinkOfThePotential some kind of goal:]] [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Money]], ForScience, power || Hubris and Worldview: StrawNihilist, SocialDarwinist, TheSocialDarwinist, TheUnfettered ''or'' sheer anger and despair: WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds, RivalTurnedEvil || Means Well: KnightTemplar, WellIntentionedExtremist || Love and Loyalty: MyMasterRightOrWrong, MyCountryRightOrWrong, WellDoneSonGuy or alternatively ForcedIntoEvil ||
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* Species: Hm... what are wizards, actually? But they’re very near to a superior species. 1
* Gender: Male. 4
* Age: He was supposed to be older and wiser. 2
* Role: He was a freelancer, wasn’t he? 4
* Aesthetics: Dignified. 2
* Motivation for doing good: What was his? 5
* Gender: Male. 4
* Age: He was supposed to be older and wiser. 2
* Role: He was a freelancer, wasn’t he? 4
* Aesthetics: Dignified. 2
* Motivation for doing good: What was his? 5
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* Species: Hm... what are wizards, actually? But they’re very near to a superior species. 1
1.
* Gender: Male.4
4.
* Age: He was supposed to be older and wiser.2
2.
* Role: He was a freelancer, wasn’t he?4
4.
* Aesthetics: Dignified.2
2.
*Motivation for doing good: Motivation: What was his? 55.
* Gender: Male.
* Age: He was supposed to be older and wiser.
* Role: He was a freelancer, wasn’t he?
* Aesthetics: Dignified.
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* Morality of the story: Black and white. 2
* Idealism: Quite idealistic. 2
22:8 = 2.75 We can’t blame Gandalf for his surprise, though Saruman’s lack of a clear motivation should have given him pause to think.
* Idealism: Quite idealistic. 2
22:8 = 2.75 We can’t blame Gandalf for his surprise, though Saruman’s lack of a clear motivation should have given him pause to think.
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* Morality of the story: Black and white. 2
BlackAndWhiteMorality. 2.
*Idealism: Cynicism of the story: Quite idealistic. 2
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* 22/8 = 2.75 75. We can’t blame Gandalf for his surprise, though Saruman’s lack of a clear motivation should have given him pause to think.
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* Species: Human. 3
* Gender: Male. 4
* Age: Teenager. 4
* Role: TheHero (probably the closest to one). 1
* Aesthetics: He's a ChickMagnet, so 1
* Motivation for doing good: Love towards Shana, so 2
* Characterization: NiceGuy, but gradually becomes less so as the series progresses, so 2
* Contentness: 3
* Morality of the story: GreyAndGreyMorality, so 4
* Idealism: Season 3 boils down between the rather idealistic Crimson Denizens against the rather cynical Flame Hazes. Judging how the Denizens win for the most part, this makes the series verge towards and idealistic side, so 2
26:10 = 2.6 While not as bad as what people say, him merging with the Snake of the Festival, ''at least'' [[DarkerAndEdgier darkened]] him.
* Gender: Male. 4
* Age: Teenager. 4
* Role: TheHero (probably the closest to one). 1
* Aesthetics: He's a ChickMagnet, so 1
* Motivation for doing good: Love towards Shana, so 2
* Characterization: NiceGuy, but gradually becomes less so as the series progresses, so 2
* Contentness: 3
* Morality of the story: GreyAndGreyMorality, so 4
* Idealism: Season 3 boils down between the rather idealistic Crimson Denizens against the rather cynical Flame Hazes. Judging how the Denizens win for the most part, this makes the series verge towards and idealistic side, so 2
26:10 = 2.6 While not as bad as what people say, him merging with the Snake of the Festival, ''at least'' [[DarkerAndEdgier darkened]] him.
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* Species: Human. 3
3.
* Gender: Male.4
4.
* Age: Teenager.4
4.
* Role: TheHero (probably the closest to one).1
1.
* Aesthetics: He's a ChickMagnet, so1
1.
* Motivation for doing good: Love towards Shana, so2
2.
* Characterization: NiceGuy, but gradually becomes less so as the series progresses, so2
2.
* Contentness:3
3.
* Morality of the story:GreyAndGreyMorality, GreyAndGrayMorality, so 4
4.
*Idealism: Cynicism of the story: Season 3 boils down between the rather idealistic Crimson Denizens against the rather cynical Flame Hazes. Judging how the Denizens win for the most part, this makes the series verge towards and idealistic side, so 2
26:102.
* 26/10 = 2.6 6. While not as bad as what people say, him merging with the Snake of the Festival, ''at least'' [[DarkerAndEdgier darkened]] him.
* Gender: Male.
* Age: Teenager.
* Role: TheHero (probably the closest to one).
* Aesthetics: He's a ChickMagnet, so
* Motivation for doing good: Love towards Shana, so
* Characterization: NiceGuy, but gradually becomes less so as the series progresses, so
* Contentness:
* Morality of the story:
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* Species: Human. 3
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: Teenager. 5
* Role: This one is complicated. You got a BigBad that is actually the BigGood, and judging how he joins two factions throughout the course of the story, this would also make him a freelancer. To balance things out, let's make it 3
* Aesthetics: TallDarkAndHandsome + {{Bishonen}} = 4
* Motivation: WellIntentionedExtremist, 4
* Characterization: Becomes disillusioned on how to end the war between the Denizens and Flame Hazes, and judging how he's the TokenGoodTeammate for both factions, let's put it at 5
* Contentness: He wants to make a world where Crimson Denizens no longer have to consume humans to survive, so 4
* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
* Idealism: The series becomes more on the idealistic side by the end, so 4
37/10 = 3.7 So he ''is'' GoodAllAlong despite switching sides
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: Teenager. 5
* Role: This one is complicated. You got a BigBad that is actually the BigGood, and judging how he joins two factions throughout the course of the story, this would also make him a freelancer. To balance things out, let's make it 3
* Aesthetics: TallDarkAndHandsome + {{Bishonen}} = 4
* Motivation: WellIntentionedExtremist, 4
* Characterization: Becomes disillusioned on how to end the war between the Denizens and Flame Hazes, and judging how he's the TokenGoodTeammate for both factions, let's put it at 5
* Contentness: He wants to make a world where Crimson Denizens no longer have to consume humans to survive, so 4
* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
* Idealism: The series becomes more on the idealistic side by the end, so 4
37/10 = 3.7 So he ''is'' GoodAllAlong despite switching sides
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* Species: Human. 3
3.
* Gender: Male.2
2.
* Age: Teenager.5
5.
* Role: This one is complicated. You got a BigBad that is actually the BigGood, and judging how he joins two factions throughout the course of the story, this would also make him a freelancer. To balance things out, let's make it3
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* Aesthetics: TallDarkAndHandsome + {{Bishonen}} =4
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* Motivation: WellIntentionedExtremist,4
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* Characterization: Becomes disillusioned on how to end the war between the Denizens and Flame Hazes, and judging how he's the TokenGoodTeammate for both factions, let's put it at5
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* Contentness: He wants to make a world where Crimson Denizens no longer have to consume humans to survive, so4
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* Morality:GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
GreyAndGrayMorality. 3.
* Idealism: The series becomes more on the idealistic side by the end, so4
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* 37/10 = 3.7 7. So he ''is'' GoodAllAlong despite switching sides
* Gender: Male.
* Age: Teenager.
* Role: This one is complicated. You got a BigBad that is actually the BigGood, and judging how he joins two factions throughout the course of the story, this would also make him a freelancer. To balance things out, let's make it
* Aesthetics: TallDarkAndHandsome + {{Bishonen}} =
* Motivation: WellIntentionedExtremist,
* Characterization: Becomes disillusioned on how to end the war between the Denizens and Flame Hazes, and judging how he's the TokenGoodTeammate for both factions, let's put it at
* Contentness: He wants to make a world where Crimson Denizens no longer have to consume humans to survive, so
* Morality:
* Idealism: The series becomes more on the idealistic side by the end, so
* 37/10 = 3.
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* Species: Human. 3
* Gender: Female. 4
* Age: She’s lived for centuries. 1
* Role: She cared more for fighting and vengeance, so 2
* Aesthetics: She’s MsFanservice. 4
* Motivation: Vengeance, so 3
* Characterization: Hard to say, so 3
* Contentness: She’s had a pretty hard life. 4
* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
* Idealism: Same as above. 4
31/10 = 3.1 So she was kind of likely to go Face, but it took a defeat from Shana and Yuji to fully convince her to do so.
* Gender: Female. 4
* Age: She’s lived for centuries. 1
* Role: She cared more for fighting and vengeance, so 2
* Aesthetics: She’s MsFanservice. 4
* Motivation: Vengeance, so 3
* Characterization: Hard to say, so 3
* Contentness: She’s had a pretty hard life. 4
* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
* Idealism: Same as above. 4
31/10 = 3.1 So she was kind of likely to go Face, but it took a defeat from Shana and Yuji to fully convince her to do so.
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* Species: Human. 3
3.
* Gender: Female.4
4.
* Age: She’s lived for centuries.1
1.
* Role: She cared more for fighting and vengeance, so2
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* Aesthetics: She’s MsFanservice.4
4.
* Motivation: Vengeance, so3
3.
* Characterization: Hard to say, so3
3.
* Contentness: She’s had a pretty hard life.4
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* Morality:GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
GreyAndGrayMorality. 3.
* Idealism: Same as above.4
4.
* 31/10 = 3.1 1. So she was kind of likely to go Face, but it took a defeat from Shana and Yuji to fully convince her to do so.
* Gender: Female.
* Age: She’s lived for centuries.
* Role: She cared more for fighting and vengeance, so
* Aesthetics: She’s MsFanservice.
* Motivation: Vengeance, so
* Characterization: Hard to say, so
* Contentness: She’s had a pretty hard life.
* Morality:
* Idealism: Same as above.
* 31/10 = 3.
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* Species: Human. 3
* Gender: Female. 2
* Age: Centuries-old. 2
* Role: Hard to describe, but judging how she develops a romance relationship with Keisaku Sato, she's probably 2
* Aesthetics: MsFanservice. 1
* Motivation: Hard to tell, but probably 4.5
* Characterization: Hotheaded, 4
* Contentness: Her life’s pretty damn hard, and Snake of the Festival Yuji [[SerialEscalation exacerbated]] it, probably 4.5
* Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality. 4
* Idealism: Same as above. 2
29/10 = 2.9 She was dangerously close, and Keisaku’s confession of his love to her saved her from going back to Heel.
* Gender: Female. 2
* Age: Centuries-old. 2
* Role: Hard to describe, but judging how she develops a romance relationship with Keisaku Sato, she's probably 2
* Aesthetics: MsFanservice. 1
* Motivation: Hard to tell, but probably 4.5
* Characterization: Hotheaded, 4
* Contentness: Her life’s pretty damn hard, and Snake of the Festival Yuji [[SerialEscalation exacerbated]] it, probably 4.5
* Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality. 4
* Idealism: Same as above. 2
29/10 = 2.9 She was dangerously close, and Keisaku’s confession of his love to her saved her from going back to Heel.
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* Species: Human. 3
3.
* Gender: Female.2
2.
* Age: Centuries-old.2
2.
* Role: Hard to describe, but judging how she develops a romance relationship with Keisaku Sato, she's probably2
2.
* Aesthetics: MsFanservice.1
1.
* Motivation: Hard to tell, but probably 4.5
5.
* Characterization: Hotheaded,4
4.
* Contentness: Her life’s pretty damn hard, and Snake of the Festival Yuji [[SerialEscalation exacerbated]] it, probably 4.5
5.
* Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality.4
4.
* Idealism: Same as above.2
2.
* 29/10 = 2.9 She was dangerously close, and Keisaku’s confession of his love to her saved her from going back to Heel.
* Gender: Female.
* Age: Centuries-old.
* Role: Hard to describe, but judging how she develops a romance relationship with Keisaku Sato, she's probably
* Aesthetics: MsFanservice.
* Motivation: Hard to tell, but probably 4.
* Characterization: Hotheaded,
* Contentness: Her life’s pretty damn hard, and Snake of the Festival Yuji [[SerialEscalation exacerbated]] it, probably 4.
* Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality.
* Idealism: Same as above.
* 29/10 = 2.9 She was dangerously close, and Keisaku’s confession of his love to her saved her from going back to Heel.
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* Species: Humanoid, so 2
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: Centuries-old. 1
* Role: Supporter of the Bal Masque. 4
* Aesthetics: OneWingedAngel. 2
* Motivation: Deeply cares for Hecate. 5
* Characterization: Admittedly, combining his aspects with Hecate, given that he deepy cares for her, probably 5
* Contentness: He wants to stay with Hecate, which eventually lead to his death, so he’s probably around 4.5
* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
* Idealism: Same as above, so 4
32.5 So his deep love for Hecate did redeem him after all.
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: Centuries-old. 1
* Role: Supporter of the Bal Masque. 4
* Aesthetics: OneWingedAngel. 2
* Motivation: Deeply cares for Hecate. 5
* Characterization: Admittedly, combining his aspects with Hecate, given that he deepy cares for her, probably 5
* Contentness: He wants to stay with Hecate, which eventually lead to his death, so he’s probably around 4.5
* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
* Idealism: Same as above, so 4
32.5 So his deep love for Hecate did redeem him after all.
to:
* Species: Humanoid, so 2
2.
* Gender: Male.2
2.
* Age: Centuries-old.1
1.
* Role: Supporter of the Bal Masque.4
4.
* Aesthetics: OneWingedAngel.2
2.
* Motivation: Deeply cares for Hecate.5
5.
* Characterization: Admittedly, combining his aspects with Hecate, given that he deepy cares for her, probably5
5.
* Contentness: He wants to stay with Hecate, which eventually lead to his death, so he’s probably around 4.5
5.
* Morality:GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
GreyAndGrayMorality. 3.
* Idealism: Same as above, so4
4.
* 32.5 5/10 = 3.25. So his deep love for Hecate did redeem him after all.
* Gender: Male.
* Age: Centuries-old.
* Role: Supporter of the Bal Masque.
* Aesthetics: OneWingedAngel.
* Motivation: Deeply cares for Hecate.
* Characterization: Admittedly, combining his aspects with Hecate, given that he deepy cares for her, probably
* Contentness: He wants to stay with Hecate, which eventually lead to his death, so he’s probably around 4.
* Morality:
* Idealism: Same as above, so
* 32.
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* Species: Humanoid. 2
* Gender: Female. 4
* Age: Centuries-old. 1
* Role: TheDragon. 4
* Aesthetics: MsFanservice. 5
* Motivation: Hard to say, so 3.5
* Characterization: As scheming and manipulative she is, she’s also just as able to inspire loyalty to many, so 3.5
* Contentness: Hard to say, so 3
* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
* Idealism: Same as above. 4
33/10 = 3.3 So she’s likely to turn Face, considering that she survives in the end.
* Gender: Female. 4
* Age: Centuries-old. 1
* Role: TheDragon. 4
* Aesthetics: MsFanservice. 5
* Motivation: Hard to say, so 3.5
* Characterization: As scheming and manipulative she is, she’s also just as able to inspire loyalty to many, so 3.5
* Contentness: Hard to say, so 3
* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
* Idealism: Same as above. 4
33/10 = 3.3 So she’s likely to turn Face, considering that she survives in the end.
to:
* Species: Humanoid. 2
2.
* Gender: Female.4
4.
* Age: Centuries-old.1
1.
* Role: TheDragon.4
4.
* Aesthetics: MsFanservice.5
5.
* Motivation: Hard to say, so 3.5
5.
* Characterization: As scheming and manipulative she is, she’s also just as able to inspire loyalty to many, so 3.5
5.
* Contentness: Hard to say, so3
3.
* Morality:GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
GreyAndGrayMorality. 3.
* Idealism: Same as above.4
4.
* 33/10 = 3.3 3. So she’s likely to turn Face, considering that she survives in the end.
* Gender: Female.
* Age: Centuries-old.
* Role: TheDragon.
* Aesthetics: MsFanservice.
* Motivation: Hard to say, so 3.
* Characterization: As scheming and manipulative she is, she’s also just as able to inspire loyalty to many, so 3.
* Contentness: Hard to say, so
* Morality:
* Idealism: Same as above.
* 33/10 = 3.
* Gender: Female. 4.
* Age: About 12 or so, let’s say child. 2.
* Role: Quirky miniboss. 3.
* Aesthetics: Cute in a loli way, let’s say 4.5.
* Motivation: Roady really likes to play rough but also likes the Earl and her fellow Noah, make it 3.
* Characterization: Unpredictable and nuts. 2.
* Contentness: Road is having a lot of fun. 1.
* Morality of the story: The main characters are mostly good, the Earl and the Noah are evil. The Black Order is very gray: 3.
* Idealism: Pretty idealistic, the hero of the story is a messiah. 4.
26.5/9 = 2.9444444444. Cuteness and Allen might yet save her but the MoralEventHorizon is looming not far away.
** Given that Road has been revealed to be [[OlderThanTheyLook considerably older than she looks]] and she’s been over the MoralEventHorizon for the entire series, her chances don’t look good.
----
Abbey Gray from ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretSaturdays''. Already [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] once, will she be going back in season two?
* Species: Human. 3
* Age: About 12 or so, let’s say child. 2.
* Role: Quirky miniboss. 3.
* Aesthetics: Cute in a loli way, let’s say 4.5.
* Motivation: Roady really likes to play rough but also likes the Earl and her fellow Noah, make it 3.
* Characterization: Unpredictable and nuts. 2.
* Contentness: Road is having a lot of fun. 1.
* Morality of the story: The main characters are mostly good, the Earl and the Noah are evil. The Black Order is very gray: 3.
* Idealism: Pretty idealistic, the hero of the story is a messiah. 4.
26.5/9 = 2.9444444444. Cuteness and Allen might yet save her but the MoralEventHorizon is looming not far away.
** Given that Road has been revealed to be [[OlderThanTheyLook considerably older than she looks]] and she’s been over the MoralEventHorizon for the entire series, her chances don’t look good.
----
Abbey Gray from ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretSaturdays''. Already [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] once, will she be going back in season two?
* Species: Human. 3
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* Age: About 12 or so, let’s say child. 2
* Role: Quirky miniboss. 3
* Aesthetics: Cute in a loli way, let’s say 4.5
* Motivation: Roady really likes to play rough but also likes the Earl and her fellow Noah, make it 3
* Characterization: Unpredictable and nuts. 2
* Contentness: Road is having a lot of fun. 1
* Morality of the story: The main characters are mostly good, the Earl and the Noah are evil. The Black Order is very gray: 3
* Idealism: Pretty idealistic, the hero of the story is a messiah. 4
2,94. Cuteness and Allen might yet save her but the MoralEventHorizon is looming not far away.
** Given that Road has been revealed to be [[OlderThanTheyLook considerably older than she looks]] and she’s been over the MoralEventHorizon for the entire series, her chances don’t look good.
----
Abbey Gray from ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretSaturdays''. Already [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] once, will she be going back in season two?
* Species: Human. 3
* Gender: Female. 4
* Role: Quirky miniboss. 3
* Aesthetics: Cute in a loli way, let’s say 4.5
* Motivation: Roady really likes to play rough but also likes the Earl and her fellow Noah, make it 3
* Characterization: Unpredictable and nuts. 2
* Contentness: Road is having a lot of fun. 1
* Morality of the story: The main characters are mostly good, the Earl and the Noah are evil. The Black Order is very gray: 3
* Idealism: Pretty idealistic, the hero of the story is a messiah. 4
2,94. Cuteness and Allen might yet save her but the MoralEventHorizon is looming not far away.
** Given that Road has been revealed to be [[OlderThanTheyLook considerably older than she looks]] and she’s been over the MoralEventHorizon for the entire series, her chances don’t look good.
----
Abbey Gray from ''WesternAnimation/TheSecretSaturdays''. Already [[FaceHeelTurn turned]] once, will she be going back in season two?
* Species: Human. 3
* Gender: Female. 4
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* Gender: Female. 4
to:
* Gender: Female. 44.
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* Role: TheDragon. 4
* Asthetics: EvilIsSexy. 4
* Asthetics: EvilIsSexy. 4
to:
* Role: TheDragon. 4
4.
* Asthetics: EvilIsSexy.44.
* Asthetics: EvilIsSexy.
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* Characterization: Once cold, calm, and collected, but now totally bats*** crazy. 2
to:
* Characterization: Once cold, calm, and collected, but now totally bats*** crazy. 22.
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* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two. 4
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again especially toward the end. 5
* 31/9 = 3.4 OR 35/9 = 3.9 (maybe even higher if people decide she deserves a higher score for Motivation)
** Despite some admittedly unrepentantly evil moments, even a somewhat unsympathetic interpretation of Azula’s character gives a rather optimistic number, owing to her age and sex, and the series’ idealistic mindset in general. Had there been a post-finale special or fourth season instead of a SequelSeries with an all-new cast [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra set decades later]], chances ranged from just above 50/50 to actually pretty good that Azula would eventually have seen the light.
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again especially toward the end. 5
* 31/9 = 3.4 OR 35/9 = 3.9 (maybe even higher if people decide she deserves a higher score for Motivation)
** Despite some admittedly unrepentantly evil moments, even a somewhat unsympathetic interpretation of Azula’s character gives a rather optimistic number, owing to her age and sex, and the series’ idealistic mindset in general. Had there been a post-finale special or fourth season instead of a SequelSeries with an all-new cast [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra set decades later]], chances ranged from just above 50/50 to actually pretty good that Azula would eventually have seen the light.
to:
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two. 4
4.
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again especially toward the end.5
5.
* 31/9 = 3.4 4444444444 OR 35/9 = 3.9 8888888889 (maybe even higher if people decide she deserves a higher score for Motivation)
**Motivation). Despite some admittedly unrepentantly evil moments, even a somewhat unsympathetic interpretation of Azula’s character gives a rather optimistic number, owing to her age and sex, and the series’ idealistic mindset in general. Had there been a post-finale special or fourth season instead of a SequelSeries with an all-new cast [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra set decades later]], chances ranged from just above 50/50 to actually pretty good that Azula would eventually have seen the light.
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again especially toward the end.
* 31/9 = 3.
**
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* Gender: Male. 4
* Age: Teenager. 4
* Role: Freelancer. 4
* Asthetics: Attractive. 1
* Motivation: It seemed to be just because it was the right thing to do, so 1 (in reality, it was 3)
* Characterization: He seemed to come off as an AntiHero at first, so 2 (in reality, it was 4)
* Contentness: He seemed to be doing all right, so 2 (in reality, it was 4)
* Morality of the Story: Black and White at the time, so 2
* Cynicism of the Story: Very idealistic. 1
* 21/9 = 2.3 (In realty, it was 27/9= 3). They never saw it coming. Sokka was just paying extra attention.
* And to follow up, just how likely is it that he saw the error of his ways?
* Age: Teenager. 4
* Role: Freelancer. 4
* Asthetics: Attractive. 1
* Motivation: It seemed to be just because it was the right thing to do, so 1 (in reality, it was 3)
* Characterization: He seemed to come off as an AntiHero at first, so 2 (in reality, it was 4)
* Contentness: He seemed to be doing all right, so 2 (in reality, it was 4)
* Morality of the Story: Black and White at the time, so 2
* Cynicism of the Story: Very idealistic. 1
* 21/9 = 2.3 (In realty, it was 27/9= 3). They never saw it coming. Sokka was just paying extra attention.
* And to follow up, just how likely is it that he saw the error of his ways?
to:
* Gender: Male. 4
4.
* Age: Teenager.4
4.
* Role: Freelancer.4
4.
* Asthetics: Attractive.1
1.
* Motivation: It seemed to be just because it was the right thing to do, so 1 (in reality, it was3)
3).
* Characterization: He seemed to come off as an AntiHero at first, so 2 (in reality, it was4)
4).
* Contentness: He seemed to be doing all right, so 2 (in reality, it was4)
4).
* Morality of the Story:Black and White BlackAndWhiteMorality at the time, so 2
2.
* Cynicism of the Story: Very idealistic.1
1.
* 21/9 = 2.3 3333333333 (In realty, it was 27/9= 27/9 = 3). They never saw it coming. Sokka was just paying extra attention.
* And to follow up, just how likely is it that he saw the error of his ways?
* Age: Teenager.
* Role: Freelancer.
* Asthetics: Attractive.
* Motivation: It seemed to be just because it was the right thing to do, so 1 (in reality, it was
* Characterization: He seemed to come off as an AntiHero at first, so 2 (in reality, it was
* Contentness: He seemed to be doing all right, so 2 (in reality, it was
* Morality of the Story:
* Cynicism of the Story: Very idealistic.
* 21/9 = 2.
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* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: Teenager. 5
* Role: Still a Freelancer, so 5
* Asthetics: Attractive. 5
* Motivation: WellIntentionedExtremist. 4
* Characterization: I would say he has some sense of honor. 4
* Contentedness: Calmer and less emotionally troubled, but still unwell, so 3
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two. 4
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5
* 37/9 = 4.1 He really did realize he was wrong, and was honestly trying to do better.
Let's do Ozai’s angels and compare them with Zuko.
Ty Lee:
* Species: Irrelevant.
* Gender: Female. 4
* Age: Teenager. 5
* Role: Still a Freelancer, so 5
* Asthetics: Attractive. 5
* Motivation: WellIntentionedExtremist. 4
* Characterization: I would say he has some sense of honor. 4
* Contentedness: Calmer and less emotionally troubled, but still unwell, so 3
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two. 4
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5
* 37/9 = 4.1 He really did realize he was wrong, and was honestly trying to do better.
Let's do Ozai’s angels and compare them with Zuko.
Ty Lee:
* Species: Irrelevant.
* Gender: Female. 4
to:
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: Teenager. 5
* Role: Still a Freelancer, so 5
* Asthetics: Attractive. 5
* Motivation: WellIntentionedExtremist. 4
* Characterization: I would say he has some sense of honor. 4
* Contentedness: Calmer and less emotionally troubled, but still unwell, so 3
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two. 4
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5
* 37/9 = 4.1 He really did realize he was wrong, and was honestly trying to do better.
Let's do Ozai’s angels and compare them with Zuko.
Ty Lee:
* Species: Irrelevant.
* Gender: Female. 42.
* Age: Teenager. 5
* Role: Still a Freelancer, so 5
* Asthetics: Attractive. 5
* Motivation: WellIntentionedExtremist. 4
* Characterization: I would say he has some sense of honor. 4
* Contentedness: Calmer and less emotionally troubled, but still unwell, so 3
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two. 4
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5
* 37/9 = 4.1 He really did realize he was wrong, and was honestly trying to do better.
Let's do Ozai’s angels and compare them with Zuko.
Ty Lee:
* Species: Irrelevant.
* Gender: Female. 4
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* Role: QuirkyMinibossSquad. 3
* Asthetics: Cute. 5
* Motivation: Because Azula is her friend. 5
* Characterization: Plain nuts. 2
* Contentness: Enjoying every minute. Well, this one shouldn’t count; Ty Lee doesn’t like doing the ''evil'', she’s mostly playing a game. 1
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two. 4
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5
* 34/9 = 3.8
** More than Azula, except in the most favorable interpretation for the princess. Unless of course, you decide not to count her score for contentness, leaving 33/8 = 4.1
Mai:
* Asthetics: Cute. 5
* Motivation: Because Azula is her friend. 5
* Characterization: Plain nuts. 2
* Contentness: Enjoying every minute. Well, this one shouldn’t count; Ty Lee doesn’t like doing the ''evil'', she’s mostly playing a game. 1
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two. 4
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5
* 34/9 = 3.8
** More than Azula, except in the most favorable interpretation for the princess. Unless of course, you decide not to count her score for contentness, leaving 33/8 = 4.1
Mai:
to:
* Role: QuirkyMinibossSquad. 3
Still a Freelancer, so 5.
* Asthetics:Cute. 5
Attractive. 5.
* Motivation:Because Azula is her friend. 5
WellIntentionedExtremist. 4.
* Characterization:Plain nuts. 2
I would say he has some sense of honor. 4.
*Contentness: Enjoying every minute. Well, this one shouldn’t count; Ty Lee doesn’t like doing the ''evil'', she’s mostly playing a game. 1
Contentedness: Calmer and less emotionally troubled, but still unwell, so 3.
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two.4
4.
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end.5
5.
*34/9 = 3.8
** More than Azula, except in the most favorable interpretation for the princess. Unless of course, you decide not to count her score for contentness, leaving 33/837/9 = 4.1
Mai:1111111111 He really did realize he was wrong, and was honestly trying to do better.
Let's do Ozai’s angels and compare them with Zuko.
Ty Lee:
* Asthetics:
* Motivation:
* Characterization:
*
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two.
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end.
*
** More than Azula, except in the most favorable interpretation for the princess. Unless of course, you decide not to count her score for contentness, leaving 33/8
Mai:
Let's do Ozai’s angels and compare them with Zuko.
Ty Lee:
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* Gender: Female. 4
to:
* Gender: Female. 44.
Changed line(s) 223,225 (click to see context) from:
* Role: QuirkyMinibossSquad. 3
* Asthetics: Attractive. 5
* Motivation: Her country. 5
* Asthetics: Attractive. 5
* Motivation: Her country. 5
to:
* Role: QuirkyMinibossSquad. 3
3.
* Asthetics: Cute. 5.
* Motivation: Because Azula is her friend. 5.
* Characterization: Plain nuts. 2.
* Contentness: Enjoying every minute. Well, this one shouldn’t count; Ty Lee doesn’t like doing the ''evil'', she’s mostly playing a game. 1.
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two. 4.
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5.
* 34/9 = 3.7777777778. More than Azula, except in the most favorable interpretation for the princess. Unless of course, you decide not to count her score for contentness, leaving 33/8 = 4.125.
Mai:
* Species: Irrelevant.
* Gender: Female. 4.
* Age: Teenager. 5.
* Role: QuirkyMinibossSquad. 3.
* Asthetics: Attractive.5
5.
* Motivation: Her country.55.
* Asthetics: Cute. 5.
* Motivation: Because Azula is her friend. 5.
* Characterization: Plain nuts. 2.
* Contentness: Enjoying every minute. Well, this one shouldn’t count; Ty Lee doesn’t like doing the ''evil'', she’s mostly playing a game. 1.
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two. 4.
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5.
* 34/9 = 3.7777777778. More than Azula, except in the most favorable interpretation for the princess. Unless of course, you decide not to count her score for contentness, leaving 33/8 = 4.125.
Mai:
* Species: Irrelevant.
* Gender: Female. 4.
* Age: Teenager. 5.
* Role: QuirkyMinibossSquad. 3.
* Asthetics: Attractive.
* Motivation: Her country.
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* Contentness: Neutral. Bored, off course. 3
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two. 4
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5
* 37/9 = 4.1
** So she is the most likely of the angels to become good. [[spoiler: So if you were surprised when the bored Mai acted on her own for the first time to save Zuko, you shouldn’t have been.]]
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two. 4
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5
* 37/9 = 4.1
** So she is the most likely of the angels to become good. [[spoiler: So if you were surprised when the bored Mai acted on her own for the first time to save Zuko, you shouldn’t have been.]]
to:
* Contentness: Neutral. Bored, off course. 3
3.
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two.4
4.
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end.5
5.
* 37/9 = 4.1
**1111111111. So she is the most likely of the angels to become good. [[spoiler: So if you were surprised when the bored Mai acted on her own for the first time to save Zuko, you shouldn’t have been.]]
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two.
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end.
* 37/9 = 4.
**
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* 37.5/9 = 4.2
** OK, so at first I thought the show subverted the algorithm because Zuko is a boy with a deforming scar and Azula is an attractive girl. But even taking that into account, Zuko was the more likely to have a Heel-Face Turn.
** OK, so at first I thought the show subverted the algorithm because Zuko is a boy with a deforming scar and Azula is an attractive girl. But even taking that into account, Zuko was the more likely to have a Heel-Face Turn.
to:
* 37.5/9 = 4.2
**1666666667. OK, so at first I thought the show subverted the algorithm because Zuko is a boy with a deforming scar and Azula is an attractive girl. But even taking that into account, Zuko was the more likely to have a Heel-Face Turn.
HeelFaceTurn.
**
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* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Middle Aged - 3
* Role: BigBad - 1
* Asthetics: EvilIsSexy - 4
* Motivation: He’s a CompleteMonster, but he has shades of being a SocialDarwinist. Let’s call it 1.5.
* Characterization: ObviouslyEvil - 1
* Contentness: Enjoying every minute - 1
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 4
* Idealism of the Story: Idealistic - 5
* Age: Middle Aged - 3
* Role: BigBad - 1
* Asthetics: EvilIsSexy - 4
* Motivation: He’s a CompleteMonster, but he has shades of being a SocialDarwinist. Let’s call it 1.5.
* Characterization: ObviouslyEvil - 1
* Contentness: Enjoying every minute - 1
* Morality of the Story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 4
* Idealism of the Story: Idealistic - 5
to:
* Gender: Male - 2
Male. 2.
* Age: MiddleAged - 3
Aged. 3.
* Role:BigBad - 1
BigBad. 1.
* Asthetics:EvilIsSexy - 4
EvilIsSexy. 4.
* Motivation: He’s a CompleteMonster, but he has shades of beinga SocialDarwinist.TheSocialDarwinist. Let’s call it 1.5.
* Characterization:ObviouslyEvil - 1
ObviouslyEvil. 1.
* Contentness: Enjoying everyminute - 1
minute. 1.
* Morality of the Story:TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 4
TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. 4.
* Idealism of the Story:Idealistic - 5Idealistic. 5.
* Age: Middle
* Role:
* Asthetics:
* Motivation: He’s a CompleteMonster, but he has shades of being
* Characterization:
* Contentness: Enjoying every
* Morality of the Story:
* Idealism of the Story:
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* 38:9=4.2. He’s coming back, believe it.
* UPDATE: [[spoiler:If Chapter 627 is anything to go by, he comes back. The reunion of Team 7 four chapters later puts the icing on the cake.]]
* UPDATE: [[spoiler:If Chapter 627 is anything to go by, he comes back. The reunion of Team 7 four chapters later puts the icing on the cake.]]
to:
* 38:9=4.2.38/9 = 4.2222222222. He’s coming back, believe it.
* UPDATE: ** Update: [[spoiler:If Chapter 627 is anything to go by, he comes back. The reunion of Team 7 four chapters later puts the icing on the cake.]]
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** Score: 25/9 = 2.777. Slightly under 50/50. Don’t expect this to happen, but don’t call it an AssPull if it does.
to:
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* Gender: Male - 2.
* Age: Adult but extremely immature; we’ll split the difference and say young adult - 3.
* Role: Key player, but also an independent contractor - 5.
* Asthetics: Sort of geeky-cute - 3 or 4. We’ll go with 4.
* Motivation: ForScience! with a god-complex - 2.
* Characterization: At the start, 2, but showed a need for people to like and accept his work. As of “Belonging”, he’s realising the implications of his work, pushing him right over into “lost and confused” - 5.
* Contentness: At the start, he was lost in the science and in his cool toys, so 1. Now that he’s been faced with the amorality of some of the upper echelon, he’s thought seriously for the first time about what he actually does - 4.
* Morality: {{Black and Grey Morality}}, shading into {{Grey and Gray Morality}} at times. It’s a Whedon show; it might change at any time. Right now we’re at 3.
* Idealism: It exists, but it usually comes up short against reality - 2.
** 30/9 = 3.3. This is where it breaks down. He could change at any time during the series, but he’s very definitely on ''[=DeWitt=]’s'' side, and that particular loyalty is not in question. The only question is if ''she'' decides to go against her bosses.
*** Update: [[spoiler: It happened.]]
* Age: Adult but extremely immature; we’ll split the difference and say young adult - 3.
* Role: Key player, but also an independent contractor - 5.
* Asthetics: Sort of geeky-cute - 3 or 4. We’ll go with 4.
* Motivation: ForScience! with a god-complex - 2.
* Characterization: At the start, 2, but showed a need for people to like and accept his work. As of “Belonging”, he’s realising the implications of his work, pushing him right over into “lost and confused” - 5.
* Contentness: At the start, he was lost in the science and in his cool toys, so 1. Now that he’s been faced with the amorality of some of the upper echelon, he’s thought seriously for the first time about what he actually does - 4.
* Morality: {{Black and Grey Morality}}, shading into {{Grey and Gray Morality}} at times. It’s a Whedon show; it might change at any time. Right now we’re at 3.
* Idealism: It exists, but it usually comes up short against reality - 2.
** 30/9 = 3.3. This is where it breaks down. He could change at any time during the series, but he’s very definitely on ''[=DeWitt=]’s'' side, and that particular loyalty is not in question. The only question is if ''she'' decides to go against her bosses.
*** Update: [[spoiler: It happened.]]
to:
* Gender: Male - Male. 2.
* Age: Adult but extremely immature; we’ll split the difference and say youngadult - adult. 3.
* Role: Key player, but also an independentcontractor - contractor. 5.
* Asthetics: Sort ofgeeky-cute - geeky-cute. 3 or 4. We’ll go with 4.
* Motivation: ForScience! with agod-complex - god-complex. 2.
* Characterization: At the start, 2, but showed a need for people to like and accept his work. As of “Belonging”, he’s realising the implications of his work, pushing him right over into “lost andconfused” - confused”. 5.
* Contentness: At the start, he was lost in the science and in his cool toys, so 1. Now that he’s been faced with the amorality of some of the upper echelon, he’s thought seriously for the first time about what he actuallydoes - does. 4.
*Morality: {{Black and Grey Morality}}, Morality of the story: BlackAndGreyMorality, shading into {{Grey and Gray Morality}} GreyAndGrayMorality at times. It’s a Whedon show; it might change at any time. Right now we’re at 3.
*Idealism: Idealism of the story: It exists, but it usually comes up short against reality - reality. 2.
** * 30/9 = 3.3.3333333333. This is where it breaks down. He could change at any time during the series, but he’s very definitely on ''[=DeWitt=]’s'' side, and that particular loyalty is not in question. The only question is if ''she'' decides to go against her bosses.
*** ** Update: [[spoiler: It happened.]]
* Age: Adult but extremely immature; we’ll split the difference and say young
* Role: Key player, but also an independent
* Asthetics: Sort of
* Motivation: ForScience! with a
* Characterization: At the start, 2, but showed a need for people to like and accept his work. As of “Belonging”, he’s realising the implications of his work, pushing him right over into “lost and
* Contentness: At the start, he was lost in the science and in his cool toys, so 1. Now that he’s been faced with the amorality of some of the upper echelon, he’s thought seriously for the first time about what he actually
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* Female - 4.
* Older - 1.
* High-ranking - 4.
* EvilIsSexy - 4.
* No idea what her motivation is - 3.
* EvenEvilHasStandards - 4.
* Life is hard - 4.
* {{Grey and Gray Morality}} - 3.
* Idealism: 2.
** 25/9 = 2.7. She might be further from turning than we think, but we can probably count on it by the end of the season.
*** Update: [[spoiler: It happened.]]
* Older - 1.
* High-ranking - 4.
* EvilIsSexy - 4.
* No idea what her motivation is - 3.
* EvenEvilHasStandards - 4.
* Life is hard - 4.
* {{Grey and Gray Morality}} - 3.
* Idealism: 2.
** 25/9 = 2.7. She might be further from turning than we think, but we can probably count on it by the end of the season.
*** Update: [[spoiler: It happened.]]
to:
* Gender: Female - 4.
* Age: Older - 1.
* Role: High-ranking - 4.
* Asthetics: EvilIsSexy - 4.
* Motivation: No idea what her motivation is - 3.
* Characterisation: EvenEvilHasStandards - 4.
* Contendness: Life is hard - 4.
*{{Grey and Gray Morality}} Morality of the story: GreyAndGrayMorality - 3.
*Idealism: Idealism of the story: 2.
** 25/9 * 29/9 = 2.7. 3.2222222222. She might be further from turning than we think, but we can probably count on it by the end of the season.
***season.
** Update: [[spoiler: It happened.]]
* Age: Older - 1.
* Role: High-ranking - 4.
* Asthetics: EvilIsSexy - 4.
* Motivation: No idea what her motivation is - 3.
* Characterisation: EvenEvilHasStandards - 4.
* Contendness: Life is hard - 4.
*
*
***
** Update: [[spoiler: It happened.]]
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** 27/9 = 3. Hmmmm. For a CompleteMonster, that’s pretty high. He could go either way at this point. It’s all a matter of Dr. Tenma’s idealism being able to completely influence him for the better.
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** Total: 36.5/10 = 3.65. There’s a decent chance she may turn once more of her character background is revealed (which, according to WordOfGod, will happen in ''Ben 10: Ultimate Alien''.) She’s definitely not as evil as Kevin was, and he turned face (of course, a lot of the reasoning behind his turn [[NotAsYouKnowThem ignores his previous characterization altogether.]])
*** Update: [[spoiler: It happened, then later it was undone, then the undoing was undone and she’s moved back toward turning to the good side. Yeah, [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor it’s one of those cases]].]]
*** Update: [[spoiler: It happened, then later it was undone, then the undoing was undone and she’s moved back toward turning to the good side. Yeah, [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor it’s one of those cases]].]]
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* Species: Human - 3
* Gender: Male - 4
* Age: Young Adult, much like Guts - 5
* Role: Griffith is the leader of the Hawks, and though Guts is the protagonist of the series in general, the Hero role in the FiveManBand is most definitely Griffith - 1
* Aesthetics: WhiteHairBlackHeart - 5
* Motivation for doing good: He wants to rule a kingdom of his own, so I would chalk it up to glory - 5
* Characterization: He’s rather arrogant, though not in a hot-headed way, and the “playing with dangerous stuff” definitely qualifies if you take that [[ArtifactOfDoom Crimson Behelit]] into consideration - 4
* Gender: Male - 4
* Age: Young Adult, much like Guts - 5
* Role: Griffith is the leader of the Hawks, and though Guts is the protagonist of the series in general, the Hero role in the FiveManBand is most definitely Griffith - 1
* Aesthetics: WhiteHairBlackHeart - 5
* Motivation for doing good: He wants to rule a kingdom of his own, so I would chalk it up to glory - 5
* Characterization: He’s rather arrogant, though not in a hot-headed way, and the “playing with dangerous stuff” definitely qualifies if you take that [[ArtifactOfDoom Crimson Behelit]] into consideration - 4
to:
* Species: Human - 3
Human. 3.
* Gender:Male - 4
Male. 4.
* Age: Young Adult, much likeGuts - 5
Guts. 5.
* Role: Griffith is the leader of the Hawks, and though Guts is the protagonist of the series in general, the Hero role in the FiveManBand is most definitelyGriffith - 1
Griffith. 1.
* Aesthetics:WhiteHairBlackHeart - 5
WhiteHairBlackHeart. 5.
*Motivation for doing good: Motivation: He wants to rule a kingdom of his own, so I would chalk it up to glory - 5
glory. 5.
* Characterization: He’s rather arrogant, though not in a hot-headed way, and the “playing with dangerous stuff” definitely qualifies if you take that [[ArtifactOfDoom Crimson Behelit]] intoconsideration - 4consideration. 4.
* Gender:
* Age: Young Adult, much like
* Role: Griffith is the leader of the Hawks, and though Guts is the protagonist of the series in general, the Hero role in the FiveManBand is most definitely
* Aesthetics:
*
* Characterization: He’s rather arrogant, though not in a hot-headed way, and the “playing with dangerous stuff” definitely qualifies if you take that [[ArtifactOfDoom Crimson Behelit]] into
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* Morality of the Story: [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] all the way - 5
* Cynicism of the Story: And pretty far on the cynical end of the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism Sliding Scale]] to boot - 5
** Total: Griffith at the start of the Hawks arc: 39/10 = '''3.9''', while Griffith near the end: 42/10 = '''4.2'''. In either case, Guts and company ''definitely'' should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn from Griffith coming.
* Cynicism of the Story: And pretty far on the cynical end of the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism Sliding Scale]] to boot - 5
** Total: Griffith at the start of the Hawks arc: 39/10 = '''3.9''', while Griffith near the end: 42/10 = '''4.2'''. In either case, Guts and company ''definitely'' should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn from Griffith coming.
to:
* Morality of the Story: story: [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] all the way - 5
way. 5.
* Cynicism of theStory: story: And pretty far on the cynical end of the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism Sliding Scale]] to boot - 5
**boot. 5.
* Total: Griffith at the start of the Hawks arc: 39/10 ='''3.9''', 3.9, while Griffith near the end: 42/10 = '''4.2'''.4.2. In either case, Guts and company ''definitely'' should have seen that big FaceHeelTurn from Griffith coming.
* Cynicism of the
**
* Total: Griffith at the start of the Hawks arc: 39/10 =
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* Species: He’s now a member of the God Hand, which are pretty much the DemonLordsAndArchdevils - 1
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: The BigBad - 1
* Aesthetics: Griffith looks incredibly beautiful but said beauty just screams that there is something ''completely wrong'' about him - 2
* Motivation for doing evil: He’s a CompleteMonster - 1
* Characterization: Griffith essentially epitomizes DespotismJustifiesTheMeans - 2
* Contentness: He’s doing well - 2
* Morality of the Story: BlackAndGrayMorality - 1
* Idealism: Fucking ''1''.
** Total: 17/10 = '''1.7'''. Nope, Griffith isn’t going to be redeemed at all. He’s frozen his heart in favor of his own selfish desires.
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: The BigBad - 1
* Aesthetics: Griffith looks incredibly beautiful but said beauty just screams that there is something ''completely wrong'' about him - 2
* Motivation for doing evil: He’s a CompleteMonster - 1
* Characterization: Griffith essentially epitomizes DespotismJustifiesTheMeans - 2
* Contentness: He’s doing well - 2
* Morality of the Story: BlackAndGrayMorality - 1
* Idealism: Fucking ''1''.
** Total: 17/10 = '''1.7'''. Nope, Griffith isn’t going to be redeemed at all. He’s frozen his heart in favor of his own selfish desires.
to:
* Species: He’s now a member of the God Hand, which are pretty much the DemonLordsAndArchdevils - 1
DemonLordsAndArchdevils. 1.
* Gender:Male - 2
Male. 2.
* Age: YoungAdult - 4
Adult. 4.
* Role: TheBigBad - 1
BigBad. 1.
* Aesthetics: Griffith looks incredibly beautiful but said beauty just screams that there is something ''completely wrong'' abouthim - 2
him. 2.
*Motivation for doing evil: Motivation: He’s a CompleteMonster - 1
CompleteMonster. 1.
* Characterization: Griffith essentially epitomizesDespotismJustifiesTheMeans - 2
DespotismJustifiesTheMeans. 2.
* Contentness: He’s doingwell - 2
well. 2.
* Morality of theStory: BlackAndGrayMorality - 1
story: BlackAndGrayMorality. 1.
*Idealism: Idealism of the story: Fucking ''1''.
** * Total: 17/10 = '''1.7'''. Nope, Griffith isn’t going to be redeemed at all. He’s frozen his heart in favor of his own selfish desires.
* Gender:
* Age: Young
* Role: The
* Aesthetics: Griffith looks incredibly beautiful but said beauty just screams that there is something ''completely wrong'' about
*
* Characterization: Griffith essentially epitomizes
* Contentness: He’s doing
* Morality of the
*
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* Species: Human - 3
* Gender: Male - 4
* Age: Young Adult - 5
* Role: The Hero, as he is the protagonist of the series in general - 1
* Aesthetics: Overall, he’s pretty handsome - 1
* Motivation: At his worst, he was driven purely by revenge, and really didn’t give a damn about others - 5
* Characterization: He could be the poster boy for ByronicHero - 2
* Contentness: Life was pretty damn hard for him - 4
* Morality: Black and Grey - 5
* Cynicism: It would be hard to find something much more cynical than this series- 5
** Total score: 35/10 = '''3.5'''. So he wasn’t quite as bad as Griffith, but it’s still good that he [[WhatTheHellHero woke up]] when he did...
* Gender: Male - 4
* Age: Young Adult - 5
* Role: The Hero, as he is the protagonist of the series in general - 1
* Aesthetics: Overall, he’s pretty handsome - 1
* Motivation: At his worst, he was driven purely by revenge, and really didn’t give a damn about others - 5
* Characterization: He could be the poster boy for ByronicHero - 2
* Contentness: Life was pretty damn hard for him - 4
* Morality: Black and Grey - 5
* Cynicism: It would be hard to find something much more cynical than this series- 5
** Total score: 35/10 = '''3.5'''. So he wasn’t quite as bad as Griffith, but it’s still good that he [[WhatTheHellHero woke up]] when he did...
to:
* Species: Human - 3
Human. 3.
* Gender:Male - 4
Male. 4.
* Age: YoungAdult - 5
Adult. 5.
* Role: The Hero, as he is the protagonist of the series ingeneral - 1
general. 1.
* Aesthetics: Overall, he’s prettyhandsome - 1
handsome. 1.
* Motivation: At his worst, he was driven purely by revenge, and really didn’t give a damn aboutothers - 5
others. 5.
* Characterization: He could be the poster boy forByronicHero - 2
ByronicHero . 2.
* Contentness: Life was pretty damn hard forhim - 4
him. 4.
*Morality: Morality of the story: Black and Grey - 5
5.
*Cynicism: Cynicism of the story: It would be hard to find something much more cynical than this series- 5
**series. 5.
* Total score: 35/10 ='''3.5'''.3.5. So he wasn’t quite as bad as Griffith, but it’s still good that he [[WhatTheHellHero woke up]] when he did...
* Gender:
* Age: Young
* Role: The Hero, as he is the protagonist of the series in
* Aesthetics: Overall, he’s pretty
* Motivation: At his worst, he was driven purely by revenge, and really didn’t give a damn about
* Characterization: He could be the poster boy for
* Contentness: Life was pretty damn hard for
*
*
**
* Total score: 35/10 =
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* Species: Human - 3
* Gender: Male - 4
* Age: Still a young adult - 5
* Role: The Hero - 1
* Aesthetics: Attractive - 1
* Motivation: I think his main priority now is really to take care of his companions (especially Casca) - 2
* Characterization: Still quite a ByronicHero - 2
* Contentness: Doing better, but still has troubles - 3
* Morality: 5
* Cynicism: 5
** Total score: 31/10 = '''3.1'''. OK. So it’s an improvement, but things are still tense. The battle with the Inner Beast could really go either way at this point...
* Gender: Male - 4
* Age: Still a young adult - 5
* Role: The Hero - 1
* Aesthetics: Attractive - 1
* Motivation: I think his main priority now is really to take care of his companions (especially Casca) - 2
* Characterization: Still quite a ByronicHero - 2
* Contentness: Doing better, but still has troubles - 3
* Morality: 5
* Cynicism: 5
** Total score: 31/10 = '''3.1'''. OK. So it’s an improvement, but things are still tense. The battle with the Inner Beast could really go either way at this point...
to:
* Species: Human - 3
Human. 3.
* Gender:Male - 4
Male. 4.
* Age: Still a youngadult - 5
adult. 5.
* Role: TheHero - 1
Hero. 1.
* Aesthetics:Attractive - 1
Attractive. 1.
* Motivation: I think his main priority now is really to take care of his companions (especiallyCasca) - 2
Casca). 2.
* Characterization: Still quite aByronicHero - 2
ByronicHero. 2.
* Contentness: Doing better, but still hastroubles - 3
troubles. 3.
*Morality: Morality of the story: 5
*Cynicism: Cynicism of the story: 5
** * Total score: 31/10 = '''3.1'''.3.1. OK. So it’s an improvement, but things are still tense. The battle with the Inner Beast could really go either way at this point...
* Gender:
* Age: Still a young
* Role: The
* Aesthetics:
* Motivation: I think his main priority now is really to take care of his companions (especially
* Characterization: Still quite a
* Contentness: Doing better, but still has
*
*
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Result: 35/9 = 3.9. Well, [[JustForPun looks like someone prefers tofu over meat.]] [[SincerityMode In all seriousness,]] Flit better watch his back, because Frederick is going to show his true colors ''very soon.''
* Update: [[spoiler:Now that was unexpected. Turns out he’s NOT the Vagan spy after all.]]
* Update: [[spoiler:Now that was unexpected. Turns out he’s NOT the Vagan spy after all.]]
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Result: 30.5/10. Very good, above average chance. But still, it all depends if Litchi succeeds or not... AND whether he can finally do something on that inferiority complex of his.
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How about Miles Edgeworth from ''Franchise/AceAttorney''? How likely was his Heel-Face Turn in the first place?
* Species: Irrelevant in the ''Ace Attorney'' universe
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: Young Adult. 4
* Role: Could be considered Phoenix’s RivalTurnedEvil (though he is definitely an AntiVillain at worst) 5
* Aesthetics: Definitely attractive. 5
* Motivation: Pratically screams WellIntentionedExtremist! 4
* Characterization: Very honorable and worthy opponent. 4
* Species: Irrelevant in the ''Ace Attorney'' universe
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: Young Adult. 4
* Role: Could be considered Phoenix’s RivalTurnedEvil (though he is definitely an AntiVillain at worst) 5
* Aesthetics: Definitely attractive. 5
* Motivation: Pratically screams WellIntentionedExtremist! 4
* Characterization: Very honorable and worthy opponent. 4
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How about Miles Edgeworth from ''Franchise/AceAttorney''? How likely was his Heel-Face Turn HeelFaceTurn in the first place?
* Species: Irrelevant in the ''Ace Attorney''universe
universe.
* Gender: Male.2
2.
* Age: Young Adult.4
4.
* Role: Could be considered Phoenix’s RivalTurnedEvil (though he is definitely an AntiVillain at worst)5
5.
* Aesthetics: Definitely attractive.5
5.
* Motivation: Pratically screams WellIntentionedExtremist!4
4.
* Characterization: Very honorable and worthy opponent.44.
* Species: Irrelevant in the ''Ace Attorney''
* Gender: Male.
* Age: Young Adult.
* Role: Could be considered Phoenix’s RivalTurnedEvil (though he is definitely an AntiVillain at worst)
* Aesthetics: Definitely attractive.
* Motivation: Pratically screams WellIntentionedExtremist!
* Characterization: Very honorable and worthy opponent.
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* Morality: This is a difficult one. I’ll leave this out for now.
* Idealism: Er... again, hard to say. Everything seems to pretty much work out in the end, though, so I will go with 4.
* Average: 32/8 = 4.
** So, Edgeworth was just itching for redemption all along...
* Idealism: Er... again, hard to say. Everything seems to pretty much work out in the end, though, so I will go with 4.
* Average: 32/8 = 4.
** So, Edgeworth was just itching for redemption all along...
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* Morality: Morality of the story: This is a difficult one. I’ll leave this out for now.
*Idealism: Idealism of the story: Er... again, hard to say. Everything seems to pretty much work out in the end, though, so I will go with 4.
* Average: 32/8 = 4. \n** So, Edgeworth was just itching for redemption all along...
*
* Average: 32/8 = 4.
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* Species: Vampire. 2
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: Way older than any living human, so 1
* Role: Leader, back when [[TheAtoner the atoning]] began. 1
* Aesthetics: Well, [[EvilIsSexy evil is sexy]], after all. 4
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: Way older than any living human, so 1
* Role: Leader, back when [[TheAtoner the atoning]] began. 1
* Aesthetics: Well, [[EvilIsSexy evil is sexy]], after all. 4
to:
* Species: Vampire. 2
2.
* Gender: Male.2
2.
* Age: Way older than any living human, so1
1.
* Role: Leader, back when [[TheAtoner the atoning]] began.1
1.
* Aesthetics: Well, [[EvilIsSexy evil is sexy]], after all.44.
* Gender: Male.
* Age: Way older than any living human, so
* Role: Leader, back when [[TheAtoner the atoning]] began.
* Aesthetics: Well, [[EvilIsSexy evil is sexy]], after all.
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* Morality of the story: {{Grey And Gray|Morality}}, as summed up at the end of “Lie To Me”. 3
* Idealism: Oh, [[ThePowerOfLove that warm energy pervading your heart]]! And the power of a nice “TakeThat” to society, when in the end you prove to be better than all those [[SarcasmMode nice people]] that spit on you! And the disarming force of heart-felt redemption! 5!
Result: 30/10 = '''3'''. It was an exact 50/50 chance, and Spike’s luck just happened to favor the side of good.
* Idealism: Oh, [[ThePowerOfLove that warm energy pervading your heart]]! And the power of a nice “TakeThat” to society, when in the end you prove to be better than all those [[SarcasmMode nice people]] that spit on you! And the disarming force of heart-felt redemption! 5!
Result: 30/10 = '''3'''. It was an exact 50/50 chance, and Spike’s luck just happened to favor the side of good.
to:
* Morality of the story: {{Grey And Gray|Morality}}, GreyAndGrayMorality, as summed up at the end of “Lie To Me”. 3
3.
*Idealism: Idealism of the story: Oh, [[ThePowerOfLove that warm energy pervading your heart]]! And the power of a nice “TakeThat” to society, when in the end you prove to be better than all those [[SarcasmMode nice people]] that spit on you! And the disarming force of heart-felt redemption! 5!
Result: * 30/10 = '''3'''.3. It was an exact 50/50 chance, and Spike’s luck just happened to favor the side of good.
*
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* Idealism: Personally I feel that it’s more cynical than idealistic, although there are elements of both. Is a 3 allowed? 3.
Result: 37/10: 3.7. High enough that Joss Whedon, with his endless love for inconsistent moralities, would definitely have FaceHeelTurn-ed her. The Scoobies were screwed.
Result: 37/10: 3.7. High enough that Joss Whedon, with his endless love for inconsistent moralities, would definitely have FaceHeelTurn-ed her. The Scoobies were screwed.
to:
* Idealism: Cynicism of the story: Personally I feel that it’s more cynical than idealistic, although there are elements of both. Is a 3 allowed? 3.
Result: * 37/10: 3.7. High enough that Joss Whedon, with his endless love for inconsistent moralities, would definitely have FaceHeelTurn-ed her. The Scoobies were screwed.
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* Species: Cybertronian/Alien-robot. 2
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: He acts like someone middle-aged. 3
* Role: Serves as the Decepticons’ [[TheBrute Brute]]. 3
* Aesthetics: Has an EyepatchOfPower after getting one of his optics ripped out. 2
* Motivation: His motives aren’t said out loud, but he seems to be loyal to Megatron. 5
* Characterization: NobleDemon. 4
* Contentness: Seems to be doing okay, but not great. 3
* Morality: BlackAndWhiteMorality. 2
* Idealism: Middle of the road when it comes to idealism. 3
Result: 29/10 = 2.9 Breakdown almost reaches 50/50. Whether he’ll go through a HeelFaceTurn is in question; only time will tell. [[spoiler: He got killed before he could change sides.]]
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: He acts like someone middle-aged. 3
* Role: Serves as the Decepticons’ [[TheBrute Brute]]. 3
* Aesthetics: Has an EyepatchOfPower after getting one of his optics ripped out. 2
* Motivation: His motives aren’t said out loud, but he seems to be loyal to Megatron. 5
* Characterization: NobleDemon. 4
* Contentness: Seems to be doing okay, but not great. 3
* Morality: BlackAndWhiteMorality. 2
* Idealism: Middle of the road when it comes to idealism. 3
Result: 29/10 = 2.9 Breakdown almost reaches 50/50. Whether he’ll go through a HeelFaceTurn is in question; only time will tell. [[spoiler: He got killed before he could change sides.]]
to:
* Species: Cybertronian/Alien-robot. 2
2.
* Gender: Male.2
2.
* Age: He acts like someone middle-aged.3
3.
* Role: Serves as the Decepticons’ [[TheBrute Brute]].3
3.
* Aesthetics: Has an EyepatchOfPower after getting one of his optics ripped out.2
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* Motivation: His motives aren’t said out loud, but he seems to be loyal to Megatron.5
5.
* Characterization: NobleDemon.4
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* Contentness: Seems to be doing okay, but not great.3
3.
*Morality: Morality of the story: BlackAndWhiteMorality. 2
2.
*Idealism: Idealism of the story: Middle of the road when it comes to idealism. 3
Result:3.
* 29/10 = 2.9 Breakdown almost reaches 50/50. Whether he’ll go through a HeelFaceTurn is in question; only time will tell.
** Update: [[spoiler: He got killed before he could change sides.]]
* Gender: Male.
* Age: He acts like someone middle-aged.
* Role: Serves as the Decepticons’ [[TheBrute Brute]].
* Aesthetics: Has an EyepatchOfPower after getting one of his optics ripped out.
* Motivation: His motives aren’t said out loud, but he seems to be loyal to Megatron.
* Characterization: NobleDemon.
* Contentness: Seems to be doing okay, but not great.
*
*
Result:
* 29/10 = 2.9 Breakdown almost reaches 50/50. Whether he’ll go through a HeelFaceTurn is in question; only time will tell.
** Update: [[spoiler: He got killed before he could change sides.]]
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* Motivation: At this point, she claims to be a SocialDarwinist in believing only the strong survive. 3.
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* Motivation: At this point, she claims to be a SocialDarwinist TheSocialDarwinist in believing only the strong survive. 3.
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* Morality: Hmm... hard to peg. BlackAndGrayMorality seems to be in her mindset and seems to hold true (Black = Hanzo’s group, Grey = Everyone else). 1.
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* Morality: Morality of the story: Hmm... hard to peg. BlackAndGrayMorality seems to be in her mindset and seems to hold true (Black = Hanzo’s group, Grey = Everyone else). 1.
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Result: 30.5/9: 3.38. Well I guess like it or not, she’s going to have to turn Face again and help out fulfill Yukimura’s prediction.
End Result: Yes she did stop being a Heel, but she just doesn’t feel like returning after betraying the team, but is definitely hanging around with another good free spirit Jinpachi. So... success?
End Result: Yes she did stop being a Heel, but she just doesn’t feel like returning after betraying the team, but is definitely hanging around with another good free spirit Jinpachi. So... success?
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** Update: [[spoiler: Yes she did stop being a Heel, but she just doesn’t feel like returning after betraying the team, but is definitely hanging around with another good free spirit Jinpachi. So...
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* Average: 28.5/10 = 2.85. In a more cynical story, she likely ''would'' have been EvilAllAlong.[[note]]Note that most of what pulls her towards a Heel-Face Turn is not made clear until the climax.[[/note]] Truly Tanigawa is a master of misdirection.
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* Average: 28.5/10 = 2.85. In a more cynical story, she likely ''would'' have been EvilAllAlong.[[note]]Note that most of what pulls her towards a Heel-Face Turn HeelFaceTurn is not made clear until the climax.[[/note]] Truly Tanigawa is a master of misdirection.
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* Species: Irrelevant
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Middle - 3
* Role: Right now... definitely the Big Bad! - 1
* Aesthetics: I’d say average looking - 3
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Middle - 3
* Role: Right now... definitely the Big Bad! - 1
* Aesthetics: I’d say average looking - 3
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* Species: Irrelevant
Irrelevant.
* Gender:Male - 2
Male. 2.
* Age:Middle - 3
Middle. 3.
* Role: Right now... definitely theBig Bad! - 1
BigBad!. 1.
* Aesthetics: I’d say averagelooking - 3looking. 3.
* Gender:
* Age:
* Role: Right now... definitely the
* Aesthetics: I’d say average
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* Characterization: PRIDE!!! - 2
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* Characterization: PRIDE!!! - 22.
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* Morality: ''Series/BreakingBad'' has a variety of characters, ranging from very evil people like Tuco and the Cousins, to fairly bad people like Walt, to decent people like Jesse, to truly good people like Hank and Walter Junior. I think it is safe to go with TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. - 4
* Cynicism: VERY cynical - 1
Average: 23/9 = 2.6
So Walt isn’t completely doomed to get even worse and become a CompleteMonster, but he does lean slightly more towards that path...
[[spoiler: Update: Or is he? Despite his low score, “Gliding Over All” seems to hint at him trying to do better...]]
* Cynicism: VERY cynical - 1
Average: 23/9 = 2.6
So Walt isn’t completely doomed to get even worse and become a CompleteMonster, but he does lean slightly more towards that path...
[[spoiler: Update: Or is he? Despite his low score, “Gliding Over All” seems to hint at him trying to do better...]]
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* Morality: Morality of the story: ''Series/BreakingBad'' has a variety of characters, ranging from very evil people like Tuco and the Cousins, to fairly bad people like Walt, to decent people like Jesse, to truly good people like Hank and Walter Junior. I think it is safe to go with TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. - 4
4.
*Cynicism: Idealism of tye story: VERY cynical - 1
Average:cynical. 1.
* 23/9 = 2.6
5555555556. So Walt isn’t completely doomed to get even worse and become a CompleteMonster, but he does lean slightly more towards that path...
path...
** Update: [[spoiler:Update: Or is he? Despite his low score, “Gliding Over All” seems to hint at him trying to do better...]]
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* 23/9 = 2.
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* Age: Still in middle age - 3
* Role: The Hero - 1
* Aesthetics: Was pretty handsome when younger, but then then became pretty plain-looking - 3
* Motivation: Was a good person who loved his family - 2
* Characterization: Outwardly meek, but deep down bitter about his lack of career achievements - 3
* Age: Still in middle age - 3
* Role: The Hero - 1
* Aesthetics: Was pretty handsome when younger, but then then became pretty plain-looking - 3
* Motivation: Was a good person who loved his family - 2
* Characterization: Outwardly meek, but deep down bitter about his lack of career achievements - 3
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* Gender: Male - 4
4.
* Age: Still in middleage - 3
age. 3.
* Role: TheHero - 1
Hero. 1.
* Aesthetics: Was pretty handsome when younger, but then then became prettyplain-looking - 3
plain-looking. 3.
* Motivation: Was a good person who loved hisfamily - 2
family. 2.
* Characterization: Outwardly meek, but deep down bitter about his lack of careerachievements - 3achievements. 3.
* Age: Still in middle
* Role: The
* Aesthetics: Was pretty handsome when younger, but then then became pretty
* Motivation: Was a good person who loved his
* Characterization: Outwardly meek, but deep down bitter about his lack of career
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* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 3
* Cynicism: Still very cynical - 5
Average: 27/9 = 3.0.
So how far Walter White fell can be considered quite shocking, though not completely unexpected. He was Mr. Chips... and then he became Scarface.
* Cynicism: Still very cynical - 5
Average: 27/9 = 3.0.
So how far Walter White fell can be considered quite shocking, though not completely unexpected. He was Mr. Chips... and then he became Scarface.
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* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 3
Morality of the story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. 3.
*Cynicism: Cynicism of the story: Still very cynical - 5
Average:cynical. 5.
* 27/9 =3.0.
3. So how far Walter White fell can be considered quite shocking, though not completely unexpected. He was Mr. Chips... and then he became Scarface.
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* 27/9 =
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* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: Technically, he is the Deuteragonist, but he mostly functions as Walt’s right-hand man, and he is definitely much less of a villain than Walt. However, some might disagree and say that he and Walt are together the Villain Protagonists. Either 1 or 4.
* Aesthetics: YMMV, but I’d say he is attractive, especially with hair. Plus, he’s gotten a number of girls. - 5
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: Technically, he is the Deuteragonist, but he mostly functions as Walt’s right-hand man, and he is definitely much less of a villain than Walt. However, some might disagree and say that he and Walt are together the Villain Protagonists. Either 1 or 4.
* Aesthetics: YMMV, but I’d say he is attractive, especially with hair. Plus, he’s gotten a number of girls. - 5
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* Gender: Male - 2
Male. 2.
* Age: YoungAdult - 4
Adult. 4.
* Role: Technically, he is the Deuteragonist, but he mostly functions as Walt’s right-hand man, and he is definitely much less of a villain than Walt. However, some might disagree and say that he and Walt are together theVillain Protagonists.{{Villain Protagonist}}s. Either 1 or 4.
* Aesthetics: YMMV, but I’d say he is attractive, especially with hair. Plus, he’s gotten a number of girls.- 55.
* Age: Young
* Role: Technically, he is the Deuteragonist, but he mostly functions as Walt’s right-hand man, and he is definitely much less of a villain than Walt. However, some might disagree and say that he and Walt are together the
* Aesthetics: YMMV, but I’d say he is attractive, especially with hair. Plus, he’s gotten a number of girls.
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* Characterization: Deep down, he’s a good person. He is also definitely lost and confused to some extent. - 5
* Contentness: More often than not, life has pretty much sucked for him. - 5
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 4
* Idealism: 1
Average: 31/ 9 = 3.4 OR 34/9 = 3.8
Either way, things look very hopeful for Jesse. [[spoiler: Of course, given how cynical ''Series/BreakingBad'' is, the high redemption score might be the [[DownerEnding set-up for something really awful...]]]]
* Contentness: More often than not, life has pretty much sucked for him. - 5
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 4
* Idealism: 1
Average: 31/ 9 = 3.4 OR 34/9 = 3.8
Either way, things look very hopeful for Jesse. [[spoiler: Of course, given how cynical ''Series/BreakingBad'' is, the high redemption score might be the [[DownerEnding set-up for something really awful...]]]]
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* Characterization: Deep down, he’s a good person. He is also definitely lost and confused to some extent. - 5
5.
* Contentness: More often than not, life has pretty much sucked for him.- 5
5.
*Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 4
Morality of the story: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. 4.
*Idealism: 1
Average: 31/ 9Idealism of the story: 1.
* 31/9 = 3.4 4444444444 OR 34/9 = 3.8
7777777778. Either way, things look very hopeful for Jesse. [[spoiler: Of course, given how cynical ''Series/BreakingBad'' is, the high redemption score might be the [[DownerEnding set-up for something really awful...]]]]
* Contentness: More often than not, life has pretty much sucked for him.
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* 31/9 = 3.
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29.5/8=3.6875. Pretty high, but still quite low for the most notorious FaceHeelTurn ever.
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* 29.5/8=3.5/8 = 3.6875. Pretty high, but still quite low for the most notorious FaceHeelTurn ever.
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20/10=2. Not likely, but again, still pretty high for ''the'' villain.
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'''MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''':
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||'''Morality of the story'''||BlackAndGrayMorality, EvilVersusEvil || BlackAndWhiteMorality || GreyAndGrayMorality || TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil || RousseauWasRight, WhiteAndGrayMorality ||
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* Age: This troper isn’t exactly sure, but I’dput it at sixteen/seventeen: teenager. 4.
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* Age: This troper isn’t exactly sure, but I’dput I’d put it at sixteen/seventeen: teenager. 4.
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* Motivation: Now that’s pretty hard. She seems to be doing it for her kind, which would’ve made her a 2. But given her monstrosity in the comics, it’s leaning to 4. I'll just play it safe and make it 3.
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* Motivation: Now that’s pretty hard. She seems to be doing it for her kind, which would’ve made her a 2. 4. But given her monstrosity in the comics, it’s leaning to 4.2. I'll just play it safe and make it 3.
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* Role: Well, he's was the BigBad for the season 3 premiere. 1.
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* Role: Well, he's he was the BigBad for the season 3 premiere. 1.
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* Morality of the story: It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I’ll give it an average of 3.
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* Morality of the story: It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I’ll give it an average of 3.TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. 4.
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* Average: 31/10 = 3.1. It’s just slightly above average, but the chance is there for Widowmaker to become Peacemaker...
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* Average: 31/10 32/10 = 3.1.2. It’s just slightly above average, but the chance is there for Widowmaker to become Peacemaker...
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* Morality of the story: It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I’ll give it an average of 3.
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* Morality of the story: It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I’ll give it an average of 3.TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. 4.
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* Average: 25.5/10 = 2.55. Unlike Widowmaker, Reaper seemed more ''content'' in being evil, so I guess what was edgelord shall still be edgelords in the end... But it’s not the bottom of the barrel, so there may be a slim chance.
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* Average: 25.26.5/10 = 2.55.65. Unlike Widowmaker, Reaper seemed more ''content'' in being evil, so I guess what was edgelord shall still be edgelords in the end... But it’s not the bottom of the barrel, so there may be a slim chance.
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* Morality of the story: It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll give it an average of 3.
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* Morality of the story: It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll give it an average of 3.TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. 4.
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* Average: 27.5/10 = 2.75. Surprisingly only a few points higher than Reaper but still below average. I guess looks do factor in redeemability, but Sombra still had it low.
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* Average: 27.28.5/10 = 2.75.85. Surprisingly only a few points higher than Reaper but still below average. I guess looks do factor in redeemability, but Sombra still had it low.
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* Morality of the story: It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I’ll give it an average of 3.
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* Morality of the story: It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I’ll give it an average of 3.TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. 4.
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* Average: 40/10 = 4. Well there’s a reason she's the AntiVillain, so Vishkar might want to count their days on when they’ll stay relevantly evil, since Symmetra may either give them the boot, or as a part of redemption, reform it to a more honest corporate in vision of her order.
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* Average: 40/10 41/10 = 4.1. Well there’s a reason she's the AntiVillain, so Vishkar might want to count their days on when they’ll stay relevantly evil, since Symmetra may either give them the boot, or as a part of redemption, reform it to a more honest corporate in vision of her order.
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* Morality of the story: It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. In this score? 2.5
* Idealism of the story: 3. While the good guys like to promote idealism, the bad guys have gotten a good score as well.
* Average: 32.5/10 = 3.25. Rather above average. Wow, Genji probably should start praying that Hanzo will have his honor unsullied.
* Idealism of the story: 3. While the good guys like to promote idealism, the bad guys have gotten a good score as well.
* Average: 32.5/10 = 3.25. Rather above average. Wow, Genji probably should start praying that Hanzo will have his honor unsullied.
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* Morality of the story: It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. In this score? 2.5
TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. 3.
*Idealism Cynicism of the story: 3. While the good guys like to promote idealism, the bad guys have gotten a good score as well.
* Average:32.5/10 33/10 = 3.25.3. Rather above average. Wow, Genji probably should start praying that Hanzo will have his honor unsullied.
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** Despite some admittedly unrepentantly evil moments, even a somewhat unsympathetic interpretation of Azula’s character gives a rather optimistic number, owing to her age and sex, and the series’ idealistic mindset in general. Had there been a post-finale special or fourth season instead of a SequelSeries with an all-new cast [[WesternAnimation/TheLastAirbenderTheLegendOfKorra set decades later]], chances ranged from just above 50/50 to actually pretty good that Azula would eventually have seen the light.
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** Despite some admittedly unrepentantly evil moments, even a somewhat unsympathetic interpretation of Azula’s character gives a rather optimistic number, owing to her age and sex, and the series’ idealistic mindset in general. Had there been a post-finale special or fourth season instead of a SequelSeries with an all-new cast [[WesternAnimation/TheLastAirbenderTheLegendOfKorra [[WesternAnimation/TheLegendOfKorra set decades later]], chances ranged from just above 50/50 to actually pretty good that Azula would eventually have seen the light.
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* Idealism of the Story: Very much so. 1
* 21/9 = 2.3. They never saw it coming. Sokka was just paying extra attention.
* 21/9 = 2.3. They never saw it coming. Sokka was just paying extra attention.
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* Idealism Cynicism of the Story: Very much so.idealistic. 1
* 21/9 = 2.3.3 (In realty, it was 27/9= 3). They never saw it coming. Sokka was just paying extra attention.
* 21/9 = 2.
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* Motivation: Well Intentioned Extremist. 4
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* Motivation: Well Intentioned Extremist.WellIntentionedExtremist. 4
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* Morality of the Story: The Good The Bad And The Evil, especially toward the end of season two. 4
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* Morality of the Story: The Good The Bad And The Evil, TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, especially toward the end of season two. 4
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* Characterization: Lawful Evil, 3.
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* Characterization: Lawful Evil, LawfulEvil, 3.
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*** Update: [[spoiler: It happened, then later it was undone, then the undoing was undone and she’s moved back toward turning to the good side. Yeah, [[FaceHeelRevolvingDoor it’s one of those cases]].]]
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*** Update: [[spoiler: It happened, then later it was undone, then the undoing was undone and she’s moved back toward turning to the good side. Yeah, [[FaceHeelRevolvingDoor [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor it’s one of those cases]].]]
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Now let’s see how close [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Guts]] himself was to becoming [[VillainProtagonist just like those he fights]]...
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* Characterization: He could be the poster boy for Byronic Hero - 2
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* Characterization: He could be the poster boy for Byronic Hero ByronicHero - 2
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* Idealism: It would be hard to find something much more cynical than this series- 5
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* Idealism: Cynicism: It would be hard to find something much more cynical than this series- 5
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* Characterization: Still quite a Byronic Hero - 2
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* Characterization: Still quite a Byronic Hero ByronicHero - 2
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* Role: Could be considered Phoenix’s Rival Turned Evil (though he is definitely an Anti-Villain at worst) 5
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* Role: Could be considered Phoenix’s Rival Turned Evil RivalTurnedEvil (though he is definitely an Anti-Villain AntiVillain at worst) 5
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* Motivation: Pratically screams Well-Intentioned Extremist! 4
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* Motivation: Pratically screams Well-Intentioned Extremist! WellIntentionedExtremist! 4
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* Motivation: For doing evil: he is unscrupulous and has precise goals, so 2.
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* Motivation: For Motivation for doing evil: he is unscrupulous and has precise goals, so 2.
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* Morality of the story: Gray and Gray, as summed up at the end of “Lie To Me”. 3
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* Morality of the story: Gray and Gray, {{Grey And Gray|Morality}}, as summed up at the end of “Lie To Me”. 3
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Now let’s take a gander at Faith’s original Face-Heel Turn, shall we?
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Now let’s take a gander at Faith’s original Face-Heel Turn, FaceHeelTurn, shall we?
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* Morality: Initially, the series is Black and White, but it resembles a lot more of The Good, The Bad, and The Evil from the start of Season 4 onwards. Compromise - 3
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* Morality: Initially, the series is Black {{Black and White, White|Morality}}, but it resembles a lot more of The Good, The Bad, and The Evil TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil from the start of Season 4 onwards. Compromise - 3
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* Morality: ''Series/BreakingBad'' has a variety of characters, ranging from very evil people like Tuco and the Cousins, to fairly bad people like Walt, to decent people like Jesse, to truly good people like Hank and Walter Junior. I think it is safe to go with The Good, The Bad, and The Evil. - 4
* Idealism: VERY cynical - 1
* Idealism: VERY cynical - 1
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* Morality: ''Series/BreakingBad'' has a variety of characters, ranging from very evil people like Tuco and the Cousins, to fairly bad people like Walt, to decent people like Jesse, to truly good people like Hank and Walter Junior. I think it is safe to go with The Good, The Bad, and The Evil.TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. - 4
*Idealism: Cynicism: VERY cynical - 1
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* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 3
* Idealism: Still very cynical - 5
* Idealism: Still very cynical - 5
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*Idealism: Cynicism: Still very cynical - 5
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* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 4
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* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil - 4
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* Characterization: He is so obviously evil that he may as well hold up a sign saying so. However, he also shows a lot of Lawful Evil tendencies. I’ll go with 3.
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* Characterization: He is so obviously evil that he may as well hold up a sign saying so. However, he also shows a lot of Lawful Evil LawfulEvil tendencies. I’ll go with 3.
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||'''Contentness''' with life in general and good in particular || [[GoodFeelsGood Enjoying every minute]] || Doing well || Neutral || Life is hard || [[BeingGoodSucks Angst, angst, angst...]] ||
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||'''Contentness''' with life in general and good in particular || [[GoodFeelsGood Enjoying every minute]] || Doing well || Neutral [[PunchClockHero Neutral]] || Life is hard || [[BeingGoodSucks Angst, angst, angst...]] ||
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* Role: TheDarkChick of Hanzo’s FiveBadBand. 4.
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* Role: TheDarkChick of Hanzo’s FiveBadBand.TheDarkChick. 4.
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* Characterization: His whole personality is a façade, so we don’t have a clue. Based on his interactions with Kyon, though, he’s likely a 2.
* Contentness: Again, his public persona is a façade, and though he is always outwardly happy and pleasant around Haruhi, he seems to find his esper duties quite stressful in actuality. Let’s say a 4.
* Contentness: Again, his public persona is a façade, and though he is always outwardly happy and pleasant around Haruhi, he seems to find his esper duties quite stressful in actuality. Let’s say a 4.
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* Characterization: His whole personality is a façade, so we don’t have a clue. Based on his interactions with Kyon, though, he’s likely a 2.
* Contentness: Again, his public persona is a façade, and though he is always outwardly happy and pleasant around Haruhi, he seems to find his esper duties quite stressful in actuality. Let’s say a 4.
* Contentness: Again, his public persona is a façade, and though he is always outwardly happy and pleasant around Haruhi, he seems to find his esper duties quite stressful in actuality. Let’s say a 4.
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* Characterization: His whole personality is a façade, so we don’t have a clue. Based on his interactions with Kyon, though, he’s likely a 2.
* Contentness: Again, his public persona is a façade, and though he is always outwardly happy and pleasant around Haruhi, he seems to find his esper duties quite stressful in actuality. Let’s say a 4.
* Contentness: Again, his public persona is a façade, and though he is always outwardly happy and pleasant around Haruhi, he seems to find his esper duties quite stressful in actuality. Let’s say a 4.
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* Characterization: His whole personality is a façade, so we don’t have a clue. Based on his interactions with Kyon, though, he’s likely a 2.
* Contentness: Again, his public persona is a façade, and though he is always outwardly happy and pleasant around Haruhi, he seems to find his esper duties quite stressful in actuality. Let’s say a 4.
* Contentness: Again, his public persona is a façade, and though he is always outwardly happy and pleasant around Haruhi, he seems to find his esper duties quite stressful in actuality. Let’s say a 4.
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* Motivation: Another tricky one. At first it isn’t clear why he does what he does, but in his next appearance he explains that he wants to free humans from the tyranny of causality, suggesting a WellIntentioneExtremist, though his willingness to resort to ''murder'' makes him a KnightTemplar. Yet after he crosses the MoralEventHorizon, he [[VillainousBreakdown breaks down]] and reveals that his real motivation is [[spoiler:despair at losing his big sister, Mikuru]], so he crosses over with [[spoiler:Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]], for a 3.5
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* Motivation: Another tricky one. At first it isn’t clear why he does what he does, but in his next appearance he explains that he wants to free humans from the tyranny of causality, suggesting a WellIntentioneExtremist, WellIntentionedExtremist, though his willingness to resort to ''murder'' makes him a KnightTemplar. Yet after he crosses the MoralEventHorizon, he [[VillainousBreakdown breaks down]] and reveals that his real motivation is [[spoiler:despair at losing his big sister, Mikuru]], so he crosses over with [[spoiler:Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]], for a 3.5
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* Characterization: His whole personality is a façade, so we don’t have a clue. Based on his interactions with Kyon, though, he’s likely a 2.
* Contentness: Again, his public persona is a façade, and though he is always outwardly happy and pleasant around Haruhi, he seems to find his esper duties quite stressful in actuality. Let’s say a 4.
* Contentness: Again, his public persona is a façade, and though he is always outwardly happy and pleasant around Haruhi, he seems to find his esper duties quite stressful in actuality. Let’s say a 4.
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* Characterization: His whole personality is a façade, so we don’t have a clue. Based on his interactions with Kyon, though, he’s likely a 2.
* Contentness: Again, his public persona is a façade, and though he is always outwardly happy and pleasant around Haruhi, he seems to find his esper duties quite stressful in actuality. Let’s say a 4.
* Contentness: Again, his public persona is a façade, and though he is always outwardly happy and pleasant around Haruhi, he seems to find his esper duties quite stressful in actuality. Let’s say a 4.
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To use the Algorithm, take each column's "Score", divide it by the number of applicable rows in the column, repeat for every column, and add the results together. No more examples, please! Do it in your own time.
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Now that Ryouko has come back in the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' series, what are the chances that she will stop trying to kill Kyon?
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Now that Ryouko Ryoko has come back in the ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'' series, what are the chances that she will stop trying to kill Kyon?
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* Gender: Female. 2
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* Average: 23.5/10 = 2.35. While she’ll probably avoid becoming [[FutureMeScaresMe her future self]], she’d better be careful, and the rest of the SOS Brigade really should be supportive of her, lest she snap.
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Let us see how likely it truly was that [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite N]] saw the error of his ways.
* Species: Human, 3
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Either a teenager or a young adult, we're not sure, 4.5
* Role: Believed at first to be the ''one'' BigBad (though actually [[spoiler: an UnwittingPawn]].) Using his presumed role gives 1 and using his actual role gives 4
* Aesthetics: According to the {{fangirl}}s, TroubledButCute, 5
* Motivation: If he isn't a WellIntentionedExtremist, then nobody is, 4
* Characterization: WorthyOpponent. By the end of the game, the player character considers him a friend, and vice versa, 4
* Contentness: He seems to enjoy life, 2
* Morality of the story: Probably [[GreyAndGrayMorality Grey and Gray]], 3
* Idealism of the story: Very much idealistic, 5
* Average: Either 33.5/10 = 3.35 or 36.5/10 = 3.65, depending on whether we are taking spoilers into account. His HeelFaceTurn was assured from the very beginning.
Time to see where some ''Series/BreakingBad'' characters will go or could have gone:
Let's start with Walter White. Can he redeem himself?
* Species: Irrelevant
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Middle - 3
* Role: Right now... definitely the Big Bad! - 1
* Aesthetics: I'd say average looking - 3
* Motivation: Oh boy, this is gonna get some flames going. It is a mixture of feeling powerful, his pride, money... it all depends on whether you still believe he is also trying to provide for his family or is a Woobie Destroyer of Worlds. I'll go with 3.
* Characterization: PRIDE!!! - 2
* Contentness: It's difficult to say. Sometimes he seems to enjoy himself a lot, but a lot of other times he is clearing not doing well at all. I'll go with 4.
* Morality: ''Series/BreakingBad'' has a variety of characters, including from very evil people like Tuco and the Cousins, to fairly bad people like Walt, to decent people like Jesse, to truly good people like Hank and Walter Junior. I think it is safe to go with The Good, The Bad, and The Evil. - 4
* Idealism: VERY cynical - 1
Average: 23/9 = 2.6
So Walt isn't completely doomed to get even worse and become a CompleteMonster, but he does lean slightly more towards that path...
[[spoiler: Update: Or is he? Despite his low score, Gliding Over All seems to hint at him trying to do better...]]
Before we move on to other characters, how bad was he to start with? Was he rotten all along, or is he just a really bad case of getting corrupted by the drug world?
* Gender: Male - 4
* Age: Still in middle age - 3
* Role: The Hero - 1
* Aesthetics: Was pretty handsome when younger, but then then became pretty plain-looking - 3
* Motivation: Was a good person who loved his family - 2
* Characterization: Outwardly meek, but deep down bitter about his lack of career achievements - 3
* Contentness: Before he got cancer, he seemed to be happy with his kids and Skyler, even if he didn't earn a whole lot of money. By the time he has cancer... life is pretty hard. I'll go with 3.
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 3
* Idealism: Still very cynical - 5
Average: 27/9 = 3.0.
So how far Walter White fell can be considered quite shocking, though not completely unexpected. He was Mr. Chips... and then he became Scarface.
Now for Jesse Pinkman. Will his HeelRealization make him see the light?
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: Technically, he is the Deuteragonist, but he mostly functions as Walt's right-hand man, and he is definitely much less of a villain than Walt. However, some might disagree and say that he and Walt are together the Villain Protagonists. Either 1 or 4.
* Aesthetics: YMMV, but I'd say he is attractive, especially with hair. Plus, he's gotten a number of girls. - 5
* Motivation: Seems he became a criminal and junkie mostly out of general unhappiness and resentment towards a crappy upbringing. He definitely means well though. I'd go with 4.
* Characterization: Deep down, he's a good person. He is also definitely lost and confused to some extent. - 5
* Contentness: More often than not, life has pretty much sucked for him. - 5
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 4
* Idealism: 1
Average: 31/ 9 = 3.4 OR 34/9 = 3.8
Either way, things look very hopeful for Jesse. [[spoiler: Of course, given how cynical ''Series/BreakingBad'' is, the high redemption score might be the [[DownerEnding set-up for something really awful...]]]]
Finally, let's look at [[spoiler: Mike]]. He did do a lot of awful things and was a professional killer, but [[spoiler: it seems like there is at least some chance he might have been on his way to a new life before Walt killed him]]. Would he have tried to do better?
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Word of God says he is in his late 50's. Older than Walt, but still middle aged - 3
* Role: Formerly the Dragon, then he became a freelancer - 5.
* Aesthetics: Average - 3
* Motivation: It seems that he really did a lot of what he did so that he could provider for his granddaughter. - 4.
* Characterization: His job required that he be a stone-cold killer, but he seemed to have some standards. - 4
* Contentness: Seemed neutral at first, but then life got A LOT more difficult for him as numerous things went wrong. - 4
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 4
* Idealism: 1
Average: 30/9 = 3.3
So things could have gone either way, but he had slightly better chances and hope for becoming a better person. [[spoiler: Too bad Walt let his anger get the better of him...]]
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Let's now see if the [[Franchise/StarWars Jedi]] could see Darth Vader coming. Let's put early-''[[Film/RevengeOfTheSith RotS]]'' Anakin Skywalker through this test.
* Species: Human. 3
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Let us see how likely it truly was that [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite N]] saw the error of his ways.
* Species: Human, 3
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Either a teenager or a young adult, we're not sure, 4.5
* Role: Believed at first to be the ''one'' BigBad (though actually [[spoiler: an UnwittingPawn]].) Using his presumed role gives 1 and using his actual role gives 4
* Aesthetics: According to the {{fangirl}}s, TroubledButCute, 5
* Motivation: If he isn't a WellIntentionedExtremist, then nobody is, 4
* Characterization: WorthyOpponent. By the end of the game, the player character considers him a friend, and vice versa, 4
* Contentness: He seems to enjoy life, 2
* Morality of the story: Probably [[GreyAndGrayMorality Grey and Gray]], 3
* Idealism of the story: Very much idealistic, 5
* Average: Either 33.5/10 = 3.35 or 36.5/10 = 3.65, depending on whether we are taking spoilers into account. His HeelFaceTurn was assured from the very beginning.
Time to see where some ''Series/BreakingBad'' characters will go or could have gone:
Let's start with Walter White. Can he redeem himself?
* Species: Irrelevant
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Middle - 3
* Role: Right now... definitely the Big Bad! - 1
* Aesthetics: I'd say average looking - 3
* Motivation: Oh boy, this is gonna get some flames going. It is a mixture of feeling powerful, his pride, money... it all depends on whether you still believe he is also trying to provide for his family or is a Woobie Destroyer of Worlds. I'll go with 3.
* Characterization: PRIDE!!! - 2
* Contentness: It's difficult to say. Sometimes he seems to enjoy himself a lot, but a lot of other times he is clearing not doing well at all. I'll go with 4.
* Morality: ''Series/BreakingBad'' has a variety of characters, including from very evil people like Tuco and the Cousins, to fairly bad people like Walt, to decent people like Jesse, to truly good people like Hank and Walter Junior. I think it is safe to go with The Good, The Bad, and The Evil. - 4
* Idealism: VERY cynical - 1
Average: 23/9 = 2.6
So Walt isn't completely doomed to get even worse and become a CompleteMonster, but he does lean slightly more towards that path...
[[spoiler: Update: Or is he? Despite his low score, Gliding Over All seems to hint at him trying to do better...]]
Before we move on to other characters, how bad was he to start with? Was he rotten all along, or is he just a really bad case of getting corrupted by the drug world?
* Gender: Male - 4
* Age: Still in middle age - 3
* Role: The Hero - 1
* Aesthetics: Was pretty handsome when younger, but then then became pretty plain-looking - 3
* Motivation: Was a good person who loved his family - 2
* Characterization: Outwardly meek, but deep down bitter about his lack of career achievements - 3
* Contentness: Before he got cancer, he seemed to be happy with his kids and Skyler, even if he didn't earn a whole lot of money. By the time he has cancer... life is pretty hard. I'll go with 3.
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 3
* Idealism: Still very cynical - 5
Average: 27/9 = 3.0.
So how far Walter White fell can be considered quite shocking, though not completely unexpected. He was Mr. Chips... and then he became Scarface.
Now for Jesse Pinkman. Will his HeelRealization make him see the light?
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: Technically, he is the Deuteragonist, but he mostly functions as Walt's right-hand man, and he is definitely much less of a villain than Walt. However, some might disagree and say that he and Walt are together the Villain Protagonists. Either 1 or 4.
* Aesthetics: YMMV, but I'd say he is attractive, especially with hair. Plus, he's gotten a number of girls. - 5
* Motivation: Seems he became a criminal and junkie mostly out of general unhappiness and resentment towards a crappy upbringing. He definitely means well though. I'd go with 4.
* Characterization: Deep down, he's a good person. He is also definitely lost and confused to some extent. - 5
* Contentness: More often than not, life has pretty much sucked for him. - 5
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 4
* Idealism: 1
Average: 31/ 9 = 3.4 OR 34/9 = 3.8
Either way, things look very hopeful for Jesse. [[spoiler: Of course, given how cynical ''Series/BreakingBad'' is, the high redemption score might be the [[DownerEnding set-up for something really awful...]]]]
Finally, let's look at [[spoiler: Mike]]. He did do a lot of awful things and was a professional killer, but [[spoiler: it seems like there is at least some chance he might have been on his way to a new life before Walt killed him]]. Would he have tried to do better?
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Word of God says he is in his late 50's. Older than Walt, but still middle aged - 3
* Role: Formerly the Dragon, then he became a freelancer - 5.
* Aesthetics: Average - 3
* Motivation: It seems that he really did a lot of what he did so that he could provider for his granddaughter. - 4.
* Characterization: His job required that he be a stone-cold killer, but he seemed to have some standards. - 4
* Contentness: Seemed neutral at first, but then life got A LOT more difficult for him as numerous things went wrong. - 4
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 4
* Idealism: 1
Average: 30/9 = 3.3
So things could have gone either way, but he had slightly better chances and hope for becoming a better person. [[spoiler: Too bad Walt let his anger get the better of him...]]
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Let's now see if the [[Franchise/StarWars Jedi]] could see Darth Vader coming. Let's put early-''[[Film/RevengeOfTheSith RotS]]'' Anakin Skywalker through this test.
* Species: Human. 3
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* Average: 23.24.5/10 = 2.35.45. While she’ll probably avoid becoming [[FutureMeScaresMe her future self]], she’d better be careful, and the rest of the SOS Brigade really should be supportive of her, lest she snap.
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Let us see how likely it truly wasKoizumi is just secretive enough that [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite N]] saw he isn’t entirely trustworthy, so what are the error of his ways.
chances that he’ll eventually betray the group?
* Species:Human, 3
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Either a teenager or a young adult, we're not sure, 4.5
* Role: Believed at first to be the ''one'' BigBad (though actually [[spoiler: an UnwittingPawn]].) Using his presumed role gives 1 and using his actual role gives 4
* Aesthetics: According to the {{fangirl}}s, TroubledButCute, 5
* Motivation: If he isn't a WellIntentionedExtremist, then nobody is, 4
* Characterization: WorthyOpponent. By the end of the game, the player character considers him a friend, and vice versa, 4
* Contentness: He seems to enjoy life, 2
* Morality of the story: Probably [[GreyAndGrayMorality Grey and Gray]], 3
* Idealism of the story: Very much idealistic, 5
* Average: Either 33.5/10 = 3.35 or 36.5/10 = 3.65, depending on whether we are taking spoilers into account. His HeelFaceTurn was assured from the very beginning.
Time to see where some ''Series/BreakingBad'' characters will go or could have gone:
Let's start with Walter White. Can he redeem himself?
* Species: Irrelevant
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Middle - 3
* Role: Right now... definitely the Big Bad! - 1
* Aesthetics: I'd say average looking - 3
* Motivation: Oh boy, this is gonna get some flames going. It is a mixture of feeling powerful, his pride, money... it all depends on whether you still believe he is also trying to provide for his family or is a Woobie Destroyer of Worlds. I'll go with 3.
* Characterization: PRIDE!!! - 2
* Contentness: It's difficult to say. Sometimes he seems to enjoy himself a lot, but a lot of other times he is clearing not doing well at all. I'll go with 4.
* Morality: ''Series/BreakingBad'' has a variety of characters, including from very evil people like Tuco and the Cousins, to fairly bad people like Walt, to decent people like Jesse, to truly good people like Hank and Walter Junior. I think it is safe to go with The Good, The Bad, and The Evil. - 4
* Idealism: VERY cynical - 1
Average: 23/9 = 2.6
So Walt isn't completely doomed to get even worse and become a CompleteMonster, but he does lean slightly more towards that path...
[[spoiler: Update: Or is he?Despite his low score, Gliding Over All seems to hint at him trying to do better...]]
Before we move on to other characters, how bad was he to start with? Was he rotten all along, or is he just a really bad case of getting corrupted by the drug world?
* Gender: Male - 4
* Age: Still in middle age - 3
* Role: The Hero - 1
* Aesthetics: Was pretty handsome when younger, but then then became pretty plain-looking - 3
* Motivation: Was a good person who loved his family - 2
* Characterization: Outwardly meek, but deep down bitter about his lack of career achievements - 3
* Contentness: Before he got cancer, he seemed to be happy with his kids and Skyler, even if he didn't earn a whole lot of money. By the time he has cancer... life is pretty hard. I'll go with 3.
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 3
* Idealism: Still very cynical - 5
Average: 27/9 = 3.0.
So how far Walter White fell can be considered quite shocking, though not completely unexpected. He was Mr. Chips... and then he became Scarface.
Now for Jesse Pinkman. Will his HeelRealization make him see the light?
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: Technically,esper powers, he is the Deuteragonist, but he mostly functions as Walt's right-hand man, and he is definitely much less of a villain than Walt. However, some might disagree and say that he and Walt are together the Villain Protagonists. Either 1 or 4.
* Aesthetics: YMMV, but I'd say he is attractive, especially with hair. Plus, he's gotten a number of girls. - 5
* Motivation: Seems he became a criminal and junkie mostly out of general unhappiness and resentment towards a crappy upbringing. He definitely means well though. I'd go with 4.
* Characterization: Deep down, he's a good person. He is also definitely lost and confused to some extent. - 5
* Contentness: More often than not, life has pretty much sucked for him. - 5
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 4
* Idealism: 1
Average: 31/ 9 = 3.4 OR 34/9 = 3.8
Either way, things look very hopeful for Jesse. [[spoiler: Of course, given how cynical ''Series/BreakingBad'' is, the high redemption score might be the [[DownerEnding set-up for something really awful...]]]]
Finally, let's look at [[spoiler: Mike]]. He did do a lot of awful things and was a professional killer, but [[spoiler: it seems like there is at least some chance he might have been on his way to a new life before Walt killed him]]. Would he have tried to do better?
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Word of God says he is in his late 50's. Older than Walt, butstill middle aged - 3
* Role: Formerly the Dragon, then he becamea freelancer - 5.
* Aesthetics: Average - 3
* Motivation: It seems that he really did a lot of what he did so that he could provider for his granddaughter. - 4.
* Characterization: His job required that he be a stone-cold killer, but he seemed to have some standards. - 4
* Contentness: Seemed neutral at first, but then life got A LOT more difficult for him as numerous things went wrong. - 4
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 4
* Idealism: 1
Average: 30/9 = 3.3
So things could have gone either way, but he had slightly better chances and hope for becoming a better person. [[spoiler: Too bad Walt let his anger get the better of him...]]
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Let's now see if the [[Franchise/StarWars Jedi]] could see Darth Vader coming. Let's put early-''[[Film/RevengeOfTheSith RotS]]'' Anakin Skywalker through this test.
* Species: Human.human. 3
Let us see how likely it truly was
* Species:
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Either a teenager or a young adult, we're not sure, 4.5
* Role: Believed at first to be the ''one'' BigBad (though actually [[spoiler: an UnwittingPawn]].) Using his presumed role gives 1 and using his actual role gives 4
* Aesthetics: According to the {{fangirl}}s, TroubledButCute, 5
* Motivation: If he isn't a WellIntentionedExtremist, then nobody is, 4
* Characterization: WorthyOpponent. By the end of the game, the player character considers him a friend, and vice versa, 4
* Contentness: He seems to enjoy life, 2
* Morality of the story: Probably [[GreyAndGrayMorality Grey and Gray]], 3
* Idealism of the story: Very much idealistic, 5
* Average: Either 33.5/10 = 3.35 or 36.5/10 = 3.65, depending on whether we are taking spoilers into account. His HeelFaceTurn was assured from the very beginning.
Time to see where some ''Series/BreakingBad'' characters will go or could have gone:
Let's start with Walter White. Can he redeem himself?
* Species: Irrelevant
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Middle - 3
* Role: Right now... definitely the Big Bad! - 1
* Aesthetics: I'd say average looking - 3
* Motivation: Oh boy, this is gonna get some flames going. It is a mixture of feeling powerful, his pride, money... it all depends on whether you still believe he is also trying to provide for his family or is a Woobie Destroyer of Worlds. I'll go with 3.
* Characterization: PRIDE!!! - 2
* Contentness: It's difficult to say. Sometimes he seems to enjoy himself a lot, but a lot of other times he is clearing not doing well at all. I'll go with 4.
* Morality: ''Series/BreakingBad'' has a variety of characters, including from very evil people like Tuco and the Cousins, to fairly bad people like Walt, to decent people like Jesse, to truly good people like Hank and Walter Junior. I think it is safe to go with The Good, The Bad, and The Evil. - 4
* Idealism: VERY cynical - 1
Average: 23/9 = 2.6
So Walt isn't completely doomed to get even worse and become a CompleteMonster, but he does lean slightly more towards that path...
[[spoiler: Update: Or is he?
Before we move on to other characters, how bad was he to start with? Was he rotten all along, or is he just a really bad case of getting corrupted by the drug world?
* Gender: Male - 4
* Age: Still in middle age - 3
* Role: The Hero - 1
* Aesthetics: Was pretty handsome when younger, but then then became pretty plain-looking - 3
* Motivation: Was a good person who loved his family - 2
* Characterization: Outwardly meek, but deep down bitter about his lack of career achievements - 3
* Contentness: Before he got cancer, he seemed to be happy with his kids and Skyler, even if he didn't earn a whole lot of money. By the time he has cancer... life is pretty hard. I'll go with 3.
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 3
* Idealism: Still very cynical - 5
Average: 27/9 = 3.0.
So how far Walter White fell can be considered quite shocking, though not completely unexpected. He was Mr. Chips... and then he became Scarface.
Now for Jesse Pinkman. Will his HeelRealization make him see the light?
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: Technically,
* Aesthetics: YMMV, but I'd say he is attractive, especially with hair. Plus, he's gotten a number of girls. - 5
* Motivation: Seems he became a criminal and junkie mostly out of general unhappiness and resentment towards a crappy upbringing. He definitely means well though. I'd go with 4.
* Characterization: Deep down, he's a good person. He is also definitely lost and confused to some extent. - 5
* Contentness: More often than not, life has pretty much sucked for him. - 5
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 4
* Idealism: 1
Average: 31/ 9 = 3.4 OR 34/9 = 3.8
Either way, things look very hopeful for Jesse. [[spoiler: Of course, given how cynical ''Series/BreakingBad'' is, the high redemption score might be the [[DownerEnding set-up for something really awful...]]]]
Finally, let's look at [[spoiler: Mike]]. He did do a lot of awful things and was a professional killer, but [[spoiler: it seems like there is at least some chance he might have been on his way to a new life before Walt killed him]]. Would he have tried to do better?
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Word of God says he is in his late 50's. Older than Walt, but
* Role: Formerly the Dragon, then he became
* Aesthetics: Average - 3
* Motivation: It seems that he really did a lot of what he did so that he could provider for his granddaughter. - 4.
* Characterization: His job required that he be a stone-cold killer, but he seemed to have some standards. - 4
* Contentness: Seemed neutral at first, but then life got A LOT more difficult for him as numerous things went wrong. - 4
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 4
* Idealism: 1
Average: 30/9 = 3.3
So things could have gone either way, but he had slightly better chances and hope for becoming a better person. [[spoiler: Too bad Walt let his anger get the better of him...]]
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Let's now see if the [[Franchise/StarWars Jedi]] could see Darth Vader coming. Let's put early-''[[Film/RevengeOfTheSith RotS]]'' Anakin Skywalker through this test.
* Species: Human.
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* Age: He is in his early 20's by the time of RotS, so young adult. 5
* Role: Technically he is the protagonist, but in terms of hero dynamics, Obi-Wan is arguably TheHero and Anakin is TheLancer in this episode. 1 OR 5 depending on your view.
* Aesthetics: Handsome, but now attractively scarred. A clear-cut 5.
* Motivation for doing good: Closest to "Love and Loyalty", as he strived to protect both the citizens of the Republic and his wife from mortal dangers. It's a 2.
* Characterization: Hotheaded, arrogant, likes to play with dangerous stuff. 4
* Contentness with life: Angst, angst, angst, at least Matthew Stover's characterization of Anakin is full of it. The movies are actually also pretty full of it too. 5
* Morality of the story: Black and light gray, actually. The Jedi of the Republic are quite fallible, and their enemies hateful, relentless monsters. Let's give it a 3.5.
* Cynicism: RotS is perhaps the most cynical episode, but the saga as a whole is very idealistic. Let's give it a middle ground, 2.5.
Calculating... 35/10 = 3.5 OR 39/10 = 3.9!
Either way, Anakin was a pretty obvious disaster waiting to happen, and EVERYBODY (not just the future Emperor) should have seen that coming! If I was one of the Jedi, I would yell DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER and wouldn't let Anie anywhere near Palpatine!
Now to see how surprising Darth Vader's redemption should have been!
* Species: Human - 3
* Role: Technically he is the protagonist, but in terms of hero dynamics, Obi-Wan is arguably TheHero and Anakin is TheLancer in this episode. 1 OR 5 depending on your view.
* Aesthetics: Handsome, but now attractively scarred. A clear-cut 5.
* Motivation for doing good: Closest to "Love and Loyalty", as he strived to protect both the citizens of the Republic and his wife from mortal dangers. It's a 2.
* Characterization: Hotheaded, arrogant, likes to play with dangerous stuff. 4
* Contentness with life: Angst, angst, angst, at least Matthew Stover's characterization of Anakin is full of it. The movies are actually also pretty full of it too. 5
* Morality of the story: Black and light gray, actually. The Jedi of the Republic are quite fallible, and their enemies hateful, relentless monsters. Let's give it a 3.5.
* Cynicism: RotS is perhaps the most cynical episode, but the saga as a whole is very idealistic. Let's give it a middle ground, 2.5.
Calculating... 35/10 = 3.5 OR 39/10 = 3.9!
Either way, Anakin was a pretty obvious disaster waiting to happen, and EVERYBODY (not just the future Emperor) should have seen that coming! If I was one of the Jedi, I would yell DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER and wouldn't let Anie anywhere near Palpatine!
Now to see how surprising Darth Vader's redemption should have been!
* Species: Human - 3
to:
* Age: He is in his early 20's by Teenager. 4
* Role: Second-in-command of thetime of RotS, so young adult.SOS Brigade, and whenever Kyon needs to confide in someone, it’s either him or [[TheSmartGuy Yuki]]. 5
* Role: Technically he is the protagonist, but in terms of hero dynamics, Obi-Wan is arguably TheHero and Anakin is TheLancer in this episode. 1 OR 5 depending on your view.
* Aesthetics: Handsome, but now attractively scarred. A clear-cut 5.
The fangirls pretty much say he’s a bishie. 1
*Motivation for Motivation: He has to, or else the world would be destroyed. It’s clear that he’s doing good: Closest it more out of obligation than a desire to "Love and Loyalty", as he strived to protect both actually save the citizens of the Republic and his wife from mortal dangers. It's a 2.
world. 3
* Characterization:Hotheaded, arrogant, likes to play His whole personality is a façade, so we don’t have a clue. Based on his interactions with dangerous stuff.Kyon, though, he’s likely a 2.
* Contentness: Again, his public persona is a façade, and though he is always outwardly happy and pleasant around Haruhi, he seems to find his esper duties quite stressful in actuality. Let’s say a 4.
* Morality of the story: Same as above. 1
* Cynicism of the story: Same as above. 1
* Average: 28/10 = 2.8. He’d be dangerously high were it not for the idealism of the series, but Kyon still better watch his back.
Haruhi herself [[ProtagonistTitleFallacy was originally the antagonist]]. How likely was her CharacterDevelopment into a better person, really?
* Species: Though she is human, she is also a RealityWarper, which should probably override this. 5
* Gender: Female. 4
*Contentness with life: Angst, angst, angst, at least Matthew Stover's characterization of Anakin is full of it. The movies are actually also pretty full of it too.Age: Teenager. 5
* Role: Definitely a freelancer. She marches to the beat of her own drum. 5
* Aesthetics: One of the prettiest girls in school, such that it is remarked upon in-universe. 4
* Motivation: Despair over her utterly mundane life caused her to do anything to stand out, even if it meant no longer obeying the restrictions of society. 3
* Characterization: Hard to class—for the most part she’s lost and confused (even if she’ll never show it) but she also has respect for people whom she perceives as not having completely given up hope in the possibility of the paranormal (such as Koizumi and [[spoiler:John Smith]]), yet at the same time, she’s [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} bugfuck insane]]. These balance out to 3.7
* Contentness: She might appear to be enjoying her life, but the first novel is called “The ''Melancholy'' of Haruhi Suzumiya” for a reason. 4
* Morality of the story:Black and light gray, actually. The Jedi Same as above. 5
* Cynicism of theRepublic story: Same as above. 5
* Average: 43.7/10 = 4.37. It was guaranteed.
Now for the [[EvilCounterpart Anti-SOS Brigade]]! Which ones arequite fallible, likely to have a change of heart, and their enemies hateful, relentless monsters. Let's give which are truly evil?
First up is Kuyou Suou:
* Species: A HumanoidAbomination that doesn’t even understand a facsimile of human experience. 1
* Gender: Female. 4
* Age: Like all humanoid interfaces, she was created three years ago, but unlike the Data Overmind interfaces, she definitely can’t pass as a convincing teenager and she comes off as a CreepyChild if she comes off as anything. 2
* Role: Seems like part of a Quirky Miniboss Squad at first, [[spoiler:but is actually Fujiwara’s Dragon]]. Thus, she’s a 4
* Aesthetics: Would be a cute schoolgirl if she weren’t at the bottom of the UncannyValley. 2
* Motivation: Actually, why? The best anyone can tell is that it would benefit the Sky Canopy Dominion somehow if Haruhi were depowered. 2
* Characterization: Too alien to have any depth. 1
* Contentness: No one knows. 3
* Morality of the story: Same as above. 5
* Idealism of the story: Same as above. 5
* Average: 29/10 = 2.9. Much like for Koizumi, the idealism skews the results toward turning good, even though [[spoiler:the Anti-SOS Brigade arc ends with her still on Fujiwara’s side, and unrepentant]].
Next is Tachibana Kyoko:
* Species: A human esper. 3
* Gender: Female. 4
* Age: Teenager. 5
* Role: Doesn’t appear to be a particularly high-ranking esper outside her closeness to Sasaki, and even as part of the Anti-SOS Brigade she doesn’t do much compared to Fujiwara and Kuyou. But she isn’t an opportunist so she’s probably still a 3
* Aesthetics: A cute girl, though not to Haruhi or Mikuru levels. 5
* Motivation: She believes that the world is better off with Sasaki instead of Haruhi having control of the RealityWarper powers, and at the same time clearly disapproves of her organization’s more extreme methods (such as [[spoiler:kidnapping Mikuru]]). Her motivation really does seem to be more that Sasaki is her friend. Splitting the difference gives 4.5
* Characterization: Definitely possesses honor, and is very polite with Kyon despite him rejecting the Anti-SOS Brigade’s offer. 4
* Contentness: Doing well. 2
* Morality of the story: Same as above. 5
* Idealism of the story: Same as above. 5
* Average: 40.5/10 = 4.05. [[spoiler:It’s not at all surprising that she turns good at the end.]]
The sneering bastard himself, Fujiwara:
* Species: Human. 3
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: Unclear. He could be either an older teenager or a younger adult. He’s old enough to drive a truck, but since he’s a time traveler, his license is probably fake. He’s younger than [[spoiler:future Mikuru]], but since her age is also unknowable, it proves nothing. In any case, he’s around a 4.5
* Role: He’s at least the Big Bad of [[ArcVillain the arc in which he appears]], even though there probably isn’t one for the series as a whole. However, this isn’t clear until nearly the end, as he hides behind others. 1.5
* Aesthetics: The illustrations make him kind of handsome, despite the sneer. Fangirls would definitely say Evil is Sexy. 4
* Motivation: Another tricky one. At first it isn’t clear why he does what he does, but in his next appearance he explains that he wants to free humans from the tyranny of causality, suggesting a WellIntentioneExtremist, though his willingness to resort to ''murder'' makes him a KnightTemplar. Yet after he crosses the MoralEventHorizon, he [[VillainousBreakdown breaks down]] and reveals that his real motivation is [[spoiler:despair at losing his big sister, Mikuru]], so he crosses over with [[spoiler:Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]], for a 3.5.
5
*Cynicism: RotS is perhaps Characterization: Checks off the most deadly sins of Pride (“the sneering bastard”), Wrath (MurderIsTheBestSolution) and also Envy and Lust (see the spoilers), but the aforementioned villainous breakdown also suggests that he’s [[spoiler:''very'' lost and confused, albeit probably too far gone to be helped]]. Let’s average it out to 3.5 just to be safe.
* Contentness: He wouldn’t have had that breakdown without angst, angst, and more angst. 5
* Morality of the story: Same as above. 5
* Idealism of the story: Same as above. 5
* Average: 37/10 = 3.7. As incredible as it sounds, he just may see the light. [[spoiler:That’s awfully high for someone whose last act before (presumably) dying is to try to kill the female lead...]]
And last, the reason the Anti-SOS Brigade exists at all, Sasaki:
* Species: Though she was the RealityWarper before Haruhi, she’s a normal human now. 3
* Gender: Female. 4
* Age: Teenager. 5[[note]]Maybe we shouldn’t have counted this one for this series, since it applies to almost the whole cast.[[/note]]
* Role: Though set up as the one Big Bad, her heart is clearly not in it. [[spoiler:Especially after Fujiwara makes his move.]] 5
* Aesthetics: A few characters comment on her prettiness, though Kyon doesn’t notice, and even though she is drawn to look like Haruhi, she doesn’t look as cute. Let’s split the difference between “pretty” and “plain-looking”, so 4
* Motivation: As it turns out, [[spoiler:she doesn’t approve of ''any'' of the evil acts done in her name]]. ''Definitely'' a 5
* Characterization: Would be a NobleDemon without a doubt if she actually did anything. 4
* Contentness: Since she lived a normal life up till very recently, I’d say she’s doing well. 2
* Morality of the story: Same as above. 5
* Idealism of the story: Same as above. 5
* Average: 42/10 = '''4.2'''. [[spoiler:Why did we ever think she was evil at all? Even without her joining Kyon to take her own Brigade down in novel 11, it was obvious that the real villains were only using her.]]
For that reason, let’s run her through the other test and see if she could have indeed become a villain had circumstances been different:
* Species: Again, human. 3
* Gender: Female. 3
* Age: Teenager. 4
* Role: Not in the SOS Brigade, so freelancer. 4
* Aesthetics: Somewhere between dignified and average. 2.5
* Motivation: She wants the paranormal to stay away from her. The only thing close on the list is “habit”. 4
* Characterization: Kyon picked up his cynicism from her, and the complete list of her friends consists of Kyon, Kyoko, and Kuyou. Averages to 4
* Contentness: Still doing well. 2
* Morality of the story: Same as above. 1
* Cynicism of the story: Same as above. 1
* Average: 28.5/10 = 2.85. In a more cynicalepisode, but story, she likely ''would'' have been EvilAllAlong.[[note]]Note that most of what pulls her towards a Heel-Face Turn is not made clear until the saga as a whole climax.[[/note]] Truly Tanigawa is very a master of misdirection.
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''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'': Let us see how likely it truly was that N saw the error of his ways:
* Species: Human. 3
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: Either a teenager or a young adult, we’re not sure. 4.5
* Role: Believed at first to be the ''one'' BigBad (though actually [[spoiler: an UnwittingPawn]].) Using his presumed role gives 1 and using his actual role gives 4
* Aesthetics: According to the {{fangirl}}s, TroubledButCute. 5
* Motivation: If he isn’t a WellIntentionedExtremist, then nobody is. 4
* Characterization: WorthyOpponent. By the end of the game, the player character considers him a friend, and vice versa. 4
* Contentness: He seems to enjoy life. 2
* Morality of the story: Probably [[GreyAndGrayMorality Grey and Gray]]. 3
* Idealism of the story: Very much idealistic.Let's give it a middle ground, 2.5.
Calculating... 35/10 = 3.5 OR 39/10 = 3.9!
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* Average: Eitherway, Anakin 33.5/10 = 3.35 or 36.5/10 = 3.65, depending on whether we are taking spoilers into account. His HeelFaceTurn was a pretty obvious disaster waiting to happen, and EVERYBODY (not just assured from the future Emperor) should have seen that coming! If I was one of the Jedi, I would yell DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER and wouldn't let Anie anywhere near Palpatine!
Nowvery beginning.
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Time to seehow surprising Darth Vader's redemption should where some ''Series/BreakingBad'' characters will go or could have been!
gone:
Let’s start with Walter White. Can he redeem himself?
* Species:Human - 3Irrelevant
* Role: Second-in-command of the
*
* Characterization:
* Contentness: Again, his public persona is a façade, and though he is always outwardly happy and pleasant around Haruhi, he seems to find his esper duties quite stressful in actuality. Let’s say a 4.
* Morality of the story: Same as above. 1
* Cynicism of the story: Same as above. 1
* Average: 28/10 = 2.8. He’d be dangerously high were it not for the idealism of the series, but Kyon still better watch his back.
Haruhi herself [[ProtagonistTitleFallacy was originally the antagonist]]. How likely was her CharacterDevelopment into a better person, really?
* Species: Though she is human, she is also a RealityWarper, which should probably override this. 5
* Gender: Female. 4
*
* Role: Definitely a freelancer. She marches to the beat of her own drum. 5
* Aesthetics: One of the prettiest girls in school, such that it is remarked upon in-universe. 4
* Motivation: Despair over her utterly mundane life caused her to do anything to stand out, even if it meant no longer obeying the restrictions of society. 3
* Characterization: Hard to class—for the most part she’s lost and confused (even if she’ll never show it) but she also has respect for people whom she perceives as not having completely given up hope in the possibility of the paranormal (such as Koizumi and [[spoiler:John Smith]]), yet at the same time, she’s [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} bugfuck insane]]. These balance out to 3.7
* Contentness: She might appear to be enjoying her life, but the first novel is called “The ''Melancholy'' of Haruhi Suzumiya” for a reason. 4
* Morality of the story:
* Cynicism of the
* Average: 43.7/10 = 4.37. It was guaranteed.
Now for the [[EvilCounterpart Anti-SOS Brigade]]! Which ones are
First up is Kuyou Suou:
* Species: A HumanoidAbomination that doesn’t even understand a facsimile of human experience. 1
* Gender: Female. 4
* Age: Like all humanoid interfaces, she was created three years ago, but unlike the Data Overmind interfaces, she definitely can’t pass as a convincing teenager and she comes off as a CreepyChild if she comes off as anything. 2
* Role: Seems like part of a Quirky Miniboss Squad at first, [[spoiler:but is actually Fujiwara’s Dragon]]. Thus, she’s a 4
* Aesthetics: Would be a cute schoolgirl if she weren’t at the bottom of the UncannyValley. 2
* Motivation: Actually, why? The best anyone can tell is that it would benefit the Sky Canopy Dominion somehow if Haruhi were depowered. 2
* Characterization: Too alien to have any depth. 1
* Contentness: No one knows. 3
* Morality of the story: Same as above. 5
* Idealism of the story: Same as above. 5
* Average: 29/10 = 2.9. Much like for Koizumi, the idealism skews the results toward turning good, even though [[spoiler:the Anti-SOS Brigade arc ends with her still on Fujiwara’s side, and unrepentant]].
Next is Tachibana Kyoko:
* Species: A human esper. 3
* Gender: Female. 4
* Age: Teenager. 5
* Role: Doesn’t appear to be a particularly high-ranking esper outside her closeness to Sasaki, and even as part of the Anti-SOS Brigade she doesn’t do much compared to Fujiwara and Kuyou. But she isn’t an opportunist so she’s probably still a 3
* Aesthetics: A cute girl, though not to Haruhi or Mikuru levels. 5
* Motivation: She believes that the world is better off with Sasaki instead of Haruhi having control of the RealityWarper powers, and at the same time clearly disapproves of her organization’s more extreme methods (such as [[spoiler:kidnapping Mikuru]]). Her motivation really does seem to be more that Sasaki is her friend. Splitting the difference gives 4.5
* Characterization: Definitely possesses honor, and is very polite with Kyon despite him rejecting the Anti-SOS Brigade’s offer. 4
* Contentness: Doing well. 2
* Morality of the story: Same as above. 5
* Idealism of the story: Same as above. 5
* Average: 40.5/10 = 4.05. [[spoiler:It’s not at all surprising that she turns good at the end.]]
The sneering bastard himself, Fujiwara:
* Species: Human. 3
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: Unclear. He could be either an older teenager or a younger adult. He’s old enough to drive a truck, but since he’s a time traveler, his license is probably fake. He’s younger than [[spoiler:future Mikuru]], but since her age is also unknowable, it proves nothing. In any case, he’s around a 4.5
* Role: He’s at least the Big Bad of [[ArcVillain the arc in which he appears]], even though there probably isn’t one for the series as a whole. However, this isn’t clear until nearly the end, as he hides behind others. 1.5
* Aesthetics: The illustrations make him kind of handsome, despite the sneer. Fangirls would definitely say Evil is Sexy. 4
* Motivation: Another tricky one. At first it isn’t clear why he does what he does, but in his next appearance he explains that he wants to free humans from the tyranny of causality, suggesting a WellIntentioneExtremist, though his willingness to resort to ''murder'' makes him a KnightTemplar. Yet after he crosses the MoralEventHorizon, he [[VillainousBreakdown breaks down]] and reveals that his real motivation is [[spoiler:despair at losing his big sister, Mikuru]], so he crosses over with [[spoiler:Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]], for a 3.
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* Contentness: He wouldn’t have had that breakdown without angst, angst, and more angst. 5
* Morality of the story: Same as above. 5
* Idealism of the story: Same as above. 5
* Average: 37/10 = 3.7. As incredible as it sounds, he just may see the light. [[spoiler:That’s awfully high for someone whose last act before (presumably) dying is to try to kill the female lead...]]
And last, the reason the Anti-SOS Brigade exists at all, Sasaki:
* Species: Though she was the RealityWarper before Haruhi, she’s a normal human now. 3
* Gender: Female. 4
* Age: Teenager. 5[[note]]Maybe we shouldn’t have counted this one for this series, since it applies to almost the whole cast.[[/note]]
* Role: Though set up as the one Big Bad, her heart is clearly not in it. [[spoiler:Especially after Fujiwara makes his move.]] 5
* Aesthetics: A few characters comment on her prettiness, though Kyon doesn’t notice, and even though she is drawn to look like Haruhi, she doesn’t look as cute. Let’s split the difference between “pretty” and “plain-looking”, so 4
* Motivation: As it turns out, [[spoiler:she doesn’t approve of ''any'' of the evil acts done in her name]]. ''Definitely'' a 5
* Characterization: Would be a NobleDemon without a doubt if she actually did anything. 4
* Contentness: Since she lived a normal life up till very recently, I’d say she’s doing well. 2
* Morality of the story: Same as above. 5
* Idealism of the story: Same as above. 5
* Average: 42/10 = '''4.2'''. [[spoiler:Why did we ever think she was evil at all? Even without her joining Kyon to take her own Brigade down in novel 11, it was obvious that the real villains were only using her.]]
For that reason, let’s run her through the other test and see if she could have indeed become a villain had circumstances been different:
* Species: Again, human. 3
* Gender: Female. 3
* Age: Teenager. 4
* Role: Not in the SOS Brigade, so freelancer. 4
* Aesthetics: Somewhere between dignified and average. 2.5
* Motivation: She wants the paranormal to stay away from her. The only thing close on the list is “habit”. 4
* Characterization: Kyon picked up his cynicism from her, and the complete list of her friends consists of Kyon, Kyoko, and Kuyou. Averages to 4
* Contentness: Still doing well. 2
* Morality of the story: Same as above. 1
* Cynicism of the story: Same as above. 1
* Average: 28.5/10 = 2.85. In a more cynical
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''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'': Let us see how likely it truly was that N saw the error of his ways:
* Species: Human. 3
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: Either a teenager or a young adult, we’re not sure. 4.5
* Role: Believed at first to be the ''one'' BigBad (though actually [[spoiler: an UnwittingPawn]].) Using his presumed role gives 1 and using his actual role gives 4
* Aesthetics: According to the {{fangirl}}s, TroubledButCute. 5
* Motivation: If he isn’t a WellIntentionedExtremist, then nobody is. 4
* Characterization: WorthyOpponent. By the end of the game, the player character considers him a friend, and vice versa. 4
* Contentness: He seems to enjoy life. 2
* Morality of the story: Probably [[GreyAndGrayMorality Grey and Gray]]. 3
* Idealism of the story: Very much idealistic.
Calculating... 35/10 = 3.5 OR 39/10 = 3.9!
* Average: Either
Now
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Time to see
Let’s start with Walter White. Can he redeem himself?
* Species:
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* Age: He was in his late 40's technically (middle-aged) - 3
* Role: By the time of [=RotJ=], he is the Dragon to the Emperor's Big Bad - 4
* Aesthetics: Cyborg. In the words of Obi-Wan, "He is more machine now than man." So I'll go with 1.
* Motivation: The films and expanded universe strongly indicate he mostly wants power, but he also has a mixture of more tragic elements. I'll go with 3.
* Characterization: He is so obviously evil that he may as well hold up a sign saying so. However, he also shows a lot of Lawful Evil tendencies. I'll go with 3.
* Role: By the time of [=RotJ=], he is the Dragon to the Emperor's Big Bad - 4
* Aesthetics: Cyborg. In the words of Obi-Wan, "He is more machine now than man." So I'll go with 1.
* Motivation: The films and expanded universe strongly indicate he mostly wants power, but he also has a mixture of more tragic elements. I'll go with 3.
* Characterization: He is so obviously evil that he may as well hold up a sign saying so. However, he also shows a lot of Lawful Evil tendencies. I'll go with 3.
to:
* Age: Middle - 3
* Role: Right now... definitely the Big Bad! - 1
* Aesthetics: I’d say average looking - 3
* Motivation: Oh boy, this is gonna get some flames going. It is a mixture of feeling powerful, his pride, money... it all depends on whether you still believe he is also trying to provide for his family or is a Woobie Destroyer of Worlds. I’ll go with 3.
* Characterization: PRIDE!!! - 2
* Contentness: It’s difficult to say. Sometimes he seems to enjoy himself a lot, but a lot of other times he is clearly not doing well at all. I’ll go with 4.
* Morality: ''Series/BreakingBad'' has a variety of characters, ranging from very evil people like Tuco and the Cousins, to fairly bad people like Walt, to decent people like Jesse, to truly good people like Hank and Walter Junior. I think it is safe to go with The Good, The Bad, and The Evil. - 4
* Idealism: VERY cynical - 1
Average: 23/9 = 2.6
So Walt isn’t completely doomed to get even worse and become a CompleteMonster, but he does lean slightly more towards that path...
[[spoiler: Update: Or is he? Despite his low score, “Gliding Over All” seems to hint at him trying to do better...]]
Before we move on to other characters, how bad was he to start with? Was he rotten all along, or is he just a really bad case of getting corrupted by the drug world?
* Gender: Male - 4
* Age: Still in middle age - 3
* Role: The Hero - 1
* Aesthetics: Was pretty handsome when younger, but then then became pretty plain-looking - 3
* Motivation: Was a good person who loved his family - 2
* Characterization: Outwardly meek, but deep down bitter about his lack of career achievements - 3
* Contentness: Before he got cancer, he seemed to be happy with his kids and Skyler, even if he didn't earn a whole lot of money. By the time he has cancer... life is pretty hard. I'll go with 3.
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 3
* Idealism: Still very cynical - 5
Average: 27/9 = 3.0.
So how far Walter White fell can be considered quite shocking, though not completely unexpected. He was Mr. Chips... and then he became Scarface.
Now for Jesse Pinkman. Will his HeelRealization make him see the light?
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: Technically, he is the Deuteragonist, but he mostly functions as Walt’s right-hand man, and he is definitely much less of a villain than Walt. However, some might disagree and say that he and Walt are together the Villain Protagonists. Either 1 or 4.
* Aesthetics: YMMV, but I’d say he is attractive, especially with hair. Plus, he’s gotten a number of girls. - 5
* Motivation: Seems he became a criminal and junkie mostly out of general unhappiness and resentment towards a crappy upbringing. He definitely means well though. I’d go with 4.
* Characterization: Deep down, he’s a good person. He is also definitely lost and confused to some extent. - 5
* Contentness: More often than not, life has pretty much sucked for him. - 5
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 4
* Idealism: 1
Average: 31/ 9 = 3.4 OR 34/9 = 3.8
Either way, things look very hopeful for Jesse. [[spoiler: Of course, given how cynical ''Series/BreakingBad'' is, the high redemption score might be the [[DownerEnding set-up for something really awful...]]]]
Finally, let's look at [[spoiler: Mike]]. He did do a lot of awful things and was a professional killer, but [[spoiler: it seems like there is at least some chance he might have been on his way to a new life before Walt killed him]]. Would he have tried to do better?
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Word of God says he is in his late fifties. Older than Walt, but still middle aged - 3
* Role: Formerly the Dragon, then he became a freelancer - 5.
* Aesthetics: Average - 3
* Motivation: It seems that he really did a lot of what he did so that he could provide for his granddaughter. - 4.
* Characterization: His job required that he be a stone-cold killer, but he seemed to have some standards. - 4
* Contentness: Seemed neutral at first, but then life got A LOT more difficult for him as numerous things went wrong. - 4
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 4
* Idealism: 1
Average: 30/9 = 3.3
So things could have gone either way, but he had slightly better chances and hope for becoming a better person. [[spoiler: Too bad Walt let his anger get the better of him...]]
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''Franchise/StarWars'': Let's now see if the Jedi could have seen Darth Vader coming. Let’s put early-''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' Anakin Skywalker through this test.
* Species: Human. 3
* Gender: Male. 4
* Age: He is in his early twenties by the time of ''[=RotS=]'', so young adult. 5
* Role: Technically he is the protagonist, but in terms of hero dynamics, Obi-Wan is arguably TheHero and Anakin is TheLancer in this episode. 1 OR 5 depending on your view.
* Aesthetics: Handsome, but now attractively scarred. A clear-cut 5.
* Motivation for doing good: Closest to “Love and Loyalty”, as he strove to protect both the citizens of the Republic and his wife from mortal danger. He’s a 2.
* Characterization: Hotheaded, arrogant, likes to play with dangerous stuff. 4
* Contentness with life: Angst, angst, angst, at least Matthew Stover’s characterization of Anakin is full of it. The movies are actually also pretty full of it too. 5
* Morality of the story: Black and light gray, actually. The Jedi of the Republic are quite fallible, and their enemies hateful, relentless monsters. Let's give it a 3.5.
* Cynicism: ''[=RotS=]'' is perhaps the most cynical episode, but the saga as a whole is very idealistic. Let’s give it a middle ground. 2.5.
Calculating... 35/10 = 3.5 OR 39/10 = 3.9!
Either way, Anakin was a pretty obvious disaster waiting to happen, and EVERYBODY (not just the future Emperor) should have seen that coming! If I were one of the Jedi, I would yell “DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER” and wouldn’t let Ani anywhere near Palpatine!
Now to see how surprising Darth Vader’s redemption should have been!
* Species: Human - 3
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: He was in his late40's forties technically (middle-aged) - 3
* Role: By the time of[=RotJ=], ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' he is the Dragon to the Emperor's Emperor’s Big Bad - 4
* Aesthetics: Cyborg. In the words of Obi-Wan,"He “He is more machine now than man." ” So I'll I’ll go with 1.
* Motivation: The films and expanded universe strongly indicate he mostly wants power, but he also has a mixture of more tragic elements.I'll I’ll go with 3.
* Characterization: He is so obviously evil that he may as well hold up a sign saying so. However, he also shows a lot of Lawful Evil tendencies.I'll I’ll go with 3.
* Role: Right now... definitely the Big Bad! - 1
* Aesthetics: I’d say average looking - 3
* Motivation: Oh boy, this is gonna get some flames going. It is a mixture of feeling powerful, his pride, money... it all depends on whether you still believe he is also trying to provide for his family or is a Woobie Destroyer of Worlds. I’ll go with 3.
* Characterization: PRIDE!!! - 2
* Contentness: It’s difficult to say. Sometimes he seems to enjoy himself a lot, but a lot of other times he is clearly not doing well at all. I’ll go with 4.
* Morality: ''Series/BreakingBad'' has a variety of characters, ranging from very evil people like Tuco and the Cousins, to fairly bad people like Walt, to decent people like Jesse, to truly good people like Hank and Walter Junior. I think it is safe to go with The Good, The Bad, and The Evil. - 4
* Idealism: VERY cynical - 1
Average: 23/9 = 2.6
So Walt isn’t completely doomed to get even worse and become a CompleteMonster, but he does lean slightly more towards that path...
[[spoiler: Update: Or is he? Despite his low score, “Gliding Over All” seems to hint at him trying to do better...]]
Before we move on to other characters, how bad was he to start with? Was he rotten all along, or is he just a really bad case of getting corrupted by the drug world?
* Gender: Male - 4
* Age: Still in middle age - 3
* Role: The Hero - 1
* Aesthetics: Was pretty handsome when younger, but then then became pretty plain-looking - 3
* Motivation: Was a good person who loved his family - 2
* Characterization: Outwardly meek, but deep down bitter about his lack of career achievements - 3
* Contentness: Before he got cancer, he seemed to be happy with his kids and Skyler, even if he didn't earn a whole lot of money. By the time he has cancer... life is pretty hard. I'll go with 3.
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 3
* Idealism: Still very cynical - 5
Average: 27/9 = 3.0.
So how far Walter White fell can be considered quite shocking, though not completely unexpected. He was Mr. Chips... and then he became Scarface.
Now for Jesse Pinkman. Will his HeelRealization make him see the light?
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Young Adult - 4
* Role: Technically, he is the Deuteragonist, but he mostly functions as Walt’s right-hand man, and he is definitely much less of a villain than Walt. However, some might disagree and say that he and Walt are together the Villain Protagonists. Either 1 or 4.
* Aesthetics: YMMV, but I’d say he is attractive, especially with hair. Plus, he’s gotten a number of girls. - 5
* Motivation: Seems he became a criminal and junkie mostly out of general unhappiness and resentment towards a crappy upbringing. He definitely means well though. I’d go with 4.
* Characterization: Deep down, he’s a good person. He is also definitely lost and confused to some extent. - 5
* Contentness: More often than not, life has pretty much sucked for him. - 5
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 4
* Idealism: 1
Average: 31/ 9 = 3.4 OR 34/9 = 3.8
Either way, things look very hopeful for Jesse. [[spoiler: Of course, given how cynical ''Series/BreakingBad'' is, the high redemption score might be the [[DownerEnding set-up for something really awful...]]]]
Finally, let's look at [[spoiler: Mike]]. He did do a lot of awful things and was a professional killer, but [[spoiler: it seems like there is at least some chance he might have been on his way to a new life before Walt killed him]]. Would he have tried to do better?
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: Word of God says he is in his late fifties. Older than Walt, but still middle aged - 3
* Role: Formerly the Dragon, then he became a freelancer - 5.
* Aesthetics: Average - 3
* Motivation: It seems that he really did a lot of what he did so that he could provide for his granddaughter. - 4.
* Characterization: His job required that he be a stone-cold killer, but he seemed to have some standards. - 4
* Contentness: Seemed neutral at first, but then life got A LOT more difficult for him as numerous things went wrong. - 4
* Morality: The Good, The Bad, and The Evil - 4
* Idealism: 1
Average: 30/9 = 3.3
So things could have gone either way, but he had slightly better chances and hope for becoming a better person. [[spoiler: Too bad Walt let his anger get the better of him...]]
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''Franchise/StarWars'': Let's now see if the Jedi could have seen Darth Vader coming. Let’s put early-''Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' Anakin Skywalker through this test.
* Species: Human. 3
* Gender: Male. 4
* Age: He is in his early twenties by the time of ''[=RotS=]'', so young adult. 5
* Role: Technically he is the protagonist, but in terms of hero dynamics, Obi-Wan is arguably TheHero and Anakin is TheLancer in this episode. 1 OR 5 depending on your view.
* Aesthetics: Handsome, but now attractively scarred. A clear-cut 5.
* Motivation for doing good: Closest to “Love and Loyalty”, as he strove to protect both the citizens of the Republic and his wife from mortal danger. He’s a 2.
* Characterization: Hotheaded, arrogant, likes to play with dangerous stuff. 4
* Contentness with life: Angst, angst, angst, at least Matthew Stover’s characterization of Anakin is full of it. The movies are actually also pretty full of it too. 5
* Morality of the story: Black and light gray, actually. The Jedi of the Republic are quite fallible, and their enemies hateful, relentless monsters. Let's give it a 3.5.
* Cynicism: ''[=RotS=]'' is perhaps the most cynical episode, but the saga as a whole is very idealistic. Let’s give it a middle ground. 2.5.
Calculating... 35/10 = 3.5 OR 39/10 = 3.9!
Either way, Anakin was a pretty obvious disaster waiting to happen, and EVERYBODY (not just the future Emperor) should have seen that coming! If I were one of the Jedi, I would yell “DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER” and wouldn’t let Ani anywhere near Palpatine!
Now to see how surprising Darth Vader’s redemption should have been!
* Species: Human - 3
* Gender: Male - 2
* Age: He was in his late
* Role: By the time of
* Aesthetics: Cyborg. In the words of Obi-Wan,
* Motivation: The films and expanded universe strongly indicate he mostly wants power, but he also has a mixture of more tragic elements.
* Characterization: He is so obviously evil that he may as well hold up a sign saying so. However, he also shows a lot of Lawful Evil tendencies.
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* Morality: Black and White by the time of [=RotJ=] - 2
* Idealism: Star Wars as a whole is quite idealistic, so I'll say 5.
* Idealism: Star Wars as a whole is quite idealistic, so I'll say 5.
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* Morality: Black and White by the time of [=RotJ=] ''[=RotJ=]'' - 2
* Idealism:Star Wars ''Star Wars'' as a whole is quite idealistic, so I'll I’ll say 5.
* Idealism:
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It was a pure 50/50 chance, so it wasn't TOO surprising... Luke was being pretty reasonable in having faith in Anakin Skywalker coming back after all...
Should [[spoiler: [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Madoka have seen Homuras rebellion coming]]]]
* species:human... or close enough, 3
* gender: female, 2
* age: teenager, or young adult depending on whether you count he time loop, 4.5
* role: freelancer, 4
* aesthetics: dignified, 2
* motivation for doing good: love and loyalty, 2
* characterization: surly, bitter, 3
* contentedness: angst, angst, angst, 5
* morality of the story: the good, the bad, and the evil, 3
* cynicism: 3
3.25: looks like she should
Should [[spoiler: [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Madoka have seen Homuras rebellion coming]]]]
* species:human... or close enough, 3
* gender: female, 2
* age: teenager, or young adult depending on whether you count he time loop, 4.5
* role: freelancer, 4
* aesthetics: dignified, 2
* motivation for doing good: love and loyalty, 2
* characterization: surly, bitter, 3
* contentedness: angst, angst, angst, 5
* morality of the story: the good, the bad, and the evil, 3
* cynicism: 3
3.25: looks like she should
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It was a pure 50/50 chance, so it wasn't wasn’t TOO surprising... Luke was being pretty reasonable in having faith in Anakin Skywalker coming back after all...
Should [[spoiler: [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Madoka have seen Homuras rebellion coming]]]]
* species:human... or close enough, 3
* gender: female, 2
* age: teenager, or young adult depending on whether you count he time loop, 4.5
* role: freelancer, 4
* aesthetics: dignified, 2
* motivation for doing good: love and loyalty, 2
* characterization: surly, bitter, 3
* contentedness: angst, angst, angst, 5
* morality of the story: the good, the bad, and the evil, 3
* cynicism: 3
3.25: looks like she should
all...
Should [[spoiler: [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Madoka have seen Homuras rebellion coming]]]]
* species:human... or close enough, 3
* gender: female, 2
* age: teenager, or young adult depending on whether you count he time loop, 4.5
* role: freelancer, 4
* aesthetics: dignified, 2
* motivation for doing good: love and loyalty, 2
* characterization: surly, bitter, 3
* contentedness: angst, angst, angst, 5
* morality of the story: the good, the bad, and the evil, 3
* cynicism: 3
3.25: looks like she should
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* Species: Human, 3.
* Gender: Male, 4.
* Age: Young Adult, 5.
* Role: TheHero, 1.
* Aesthetics: Pretty average, 3.
* Motivation: Love and loyalty, 2.
* Characterization: Borderline AllLovingHero, 1.
* Contentness: Life is hard, 4.
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, 3.
* Cynicism: Idealistic, 1.
* Gender: Male, 4.
* Age: Young Adult, 5.
* Role: TheHero, 1.
* Aesthetics: Pretty average, 3.
* Motivation: Love and loyalty, 2.
* Characterization: Borderline AllLovingHero, 1.
* Contentness: Life is hard, 4.
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, 3.
* Cynicism: Idealistic, 1.
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* Species: Human, Human. 3.
* Gender:Male, Male. 4.
* Age: YoungAdult, Adult. 5.
* Role:TheHero, TheHero. 1.
* Aesthetics: Prettyaverage, average. 3.
* Motivation: Love andloyalty, loyalty. 2.
* Characterization: BorderlineAllLovingHero, AllLovingHero. 1.
* Contentness: Life ishard, hard. 4.
* Morality:TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. 3.
* Cynicism:Idealistic, Idealistic. 1.
* Gender:
* Age: Young
* Role:
* Aesthetics: Pretty
* Motivation: Love and
* Characterization: Borderline
* Contentness: Life is
* Morality:
* Cynicism:
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As of the release of ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', let's see how close Kylo Ren is to a possible redemption.
* Species: Human, 3.
* Gender: Male, 2.
* Species: Human, 3.
* Gender: Male, 2.
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As of the release of ''Film/TheForceAwakens'', let's let’s see how close Kylo Ren is to a possible redemption.
* Species:Human, Human. 3.
* Gender:Male, Male. 2.
* Species:
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* Role: He's basically Snoke's [[TheDragon Dragon]], so 4.
* Aesthetics: While the whole unmasking scene serves to show how unusually average-looking he truly is, a fairly large portion of the fandom [[DracoInLeatherPants seems to believe otherwise]], so let's compromise with a 4.
* Motivation: From what we know about his origins, "sheer anger and despair" (likely directed at his parents and/or Luke) seems to cut it. 3.
* Aesthetics: While the whole unmasking scene serves to show how unusually average-looking he truly is, a fairly large portion of the fandom [[DracoInLeatherPants seems to believe otherwise]], so let's compromise with a 4.
* Motivation: From what we know about his origins, "sheer anger and despair" (likely directed at his parents and/or Luke) seems to cut it. 3.
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* Role: He's He’s basically Snoke's Snoke’s [[TheDragon Dragon]], so 4.
* Aesthetics: While the whole unmasking scene serves to show how unusually average-looking he truly is, a fairly large portion of the fandom [[DracoInLeatherPants seems to believe otherwise]], solet's let’s compromise with a 4.
* Motivation: From what we know about his origins,"sheer “sheer anger and despair" despair” (likely directed at his parents and/or Luke) seems to cut it. 3.
* Aesthetics: While the whole unmasking scene serves to show how unusually average-looking he truly is, a fairly large portion of the fandom [[DracoInLeatherPants seems to believe otherwise]], so
* Motivation: From what we know about his origins,
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* Average: 39/10 = 3.9. Damn. Even though [[spoiler:the murder of his father]] did seem to cement him firmly onto the dark side, I honestly wouldn't be too surprised if he managed to get some sort of redemption by IX.
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* Average: 39/10 = 3.9. Damn. Even though [[spoiler:the murder of his father]] did seem to cement him firmly onto the dark side, I honestly wouldn't wouldn’t be too surprised if he managed to get some sort of redemption by IX.
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'''MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'''
Let's see if [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E11KeepCalmAndFlutterOn Discord's redemption]] is plausible enough.
* Species: Well, the dominant species are ponies, but he's a draconnequus, so I'm going with 1.
Let's see if [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E11KeepCalmAndFlutterOn Discord's redemption]] is plausible enough.
* Species: Well, the dominant species are ponies, but he's a draconnequus, so I'm going with 1.
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Let's
Was Kyoko’s turn Face plausible?
* Species: Human, [[spoiler:or rather not, since she’s a magical girl. But this hardly matters]]. 3
* Gender: Female ([[ImplausiblyFemaleCast not that it matters]]). 4
* Age: Teenager. 5
* Role: She works alone. 5
* Aesthetics: TroubledButCute. 5
* Motivation: One would think it was anger and despair due to [[spoiler:inadvertently causing the deaths of her family]], but since [[spoiler:she managed to avoid becoming a Witch]], it’s more likely NeverBeHurtAgain, which would be classified under power. She also has some of The Social Darwinist in her. 2.5
* Characterization: Cold-blooded, but also lost and confused. Averages to 4
* Contentness: She doesn’t angst about it like other magical girls, but life is very hard, especially because she’s homeless. 4
* Morality of the story: Madoka is good. Sayaka and Homura are anti-heroes. Kyoko is bad ([[CharacterDevelopment at first]]). Witches and [[spoiler:Kyubey]] are evil. 3
* Idealism of the story: Most of the anime is relentlessly cynical, but [[SurprisinglyHappyEnding the ending]] is more idealistic. This balances out to 3
* Average: 38.5/10 = 3.85. It was actually pretty likely.
Could Sayaka have in any way avoided [[spoiler:becoming the Witch Oktavia von Seckendorff]]?
* Species: Magical girl. 3
* Gender: Female. 3
* Age: Teenager. 4
* Role: TheHero at this point, since Mami [[spoiler:is dead]], Homura is not a team player, and Madoka has yet to become a magical girl. 1
* Aesthetics: [[PuniPlush Like anyone else in this series.]] 1
* Motivation: She wants to be a hero, which, [[DeconstructedTrope as the series points out]], is just “for the glory”. 5
* Characterization: Becomes a magical girl because [[WrongGenreSavvy she thinks she’s in a more idealistic series]], hence is arrogant and hotheaded, and [[DealWithTheDevil making a contract with Kyubey is inherently playing with dangerous stuff]]. 4
* Contentness: Nothing has worked out for her, and once she reaches the edge, she’s angsting out the wazoo. 5
* Morality of the story: See above. 3
* Cynicism of the story: See above. 3
* Average: 32/10 = 3.2. While in theory she could have gone either way, MurphysLaw was not kind to her.
How likely was Homura’s [[spoiler:rebellion]], anyway?
* Species: Magical girl. 3
* Gender: Female. 3
* Age: Physically a teenager, but [[spoiler:mentally, due to the time loop, a young adult]]. 4.5
* Role: Freelancer in the main story, but part of the True Companions in the ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Rebellion Story]]'', so 3
* Aesthetics: A dignified EmotionlessGirl. 2
* Motivation: Absolutely love and loyalty to Madoka. 2
* Characterization: Surly and bitter. 3
* Contentness: In ''[[TearJerker this]]'' series? Angst, ''angst'', '''angst'''. 5
* Morality of the story: See above. 3
* Cynicism of the story: Actually balances out between relentless hopelessness and a SurprisinglyHappyEnding, which ''Rebellion'' makes bittersweet. 3
* Average: 31.5/10 = 3.15. While it was still shocking, there was some foreshadowing, especially considering Sayaka’s score.
Fans have been wondering just what would be needed to make Kyubey [[spoiler:into an actual ally of the magical girls]]. Let’s find out:
* Species: Looks like a cute mascot, but is utterly inhuman. 1
* Gender: In all likelihood the species has NoBiologicalSex. 3
* Age: [[spoiler:Since before the evolution of humanity.]] 1
* Role: Turns out to be the Big Bad [[spoiler:who created the Witches]], unless one wants to argue that this role ought to go to [[spoiler:the Second Law of Thermodynamics]]. 1
* Aesthetics: Again, looks like a cute mascot. 5
* Motivation: Starts out with one goal: [[spoiler:to prevent the heat death of the universe]]. In the sequel, however, this goal has already been achieved, but Kyubey still orchestrates the plot in the name of efficiency, so is now pursuing power. 2, but originally a 4
* Characterization: In hindsight, ObviouslyEvil. 1
* Contentness: Has no emotions, yet still seems to take delight in its actions. Averages to 2
* Morality of the story: See above. 3
* Idealism of the story: See above. 3
* Average: 22/10 = 2.2, or 24/10 = 2.4, depending on one’s interpretation of Kyubey’s motive. Not that it matters much, since [[spoiler:just maybe, if Kyubey suffers enough in Homura’s new world, it will see the error of its ways, but don’t count on it]].
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'''MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''':
Let’s see if [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E11KeepCalmAndFlutterOn
* Species: Well, the dominant species are ponies, but
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* Aesthetics: Since he's a mix of everything, 1.
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* Aesthetics: Since he's he’s a mix of everything, 1.
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* Characterization: Being an entity of chaos, he looks pretty crazy. Still, it's really, '''really''' hard to sort. 2 or 5? Dammit, but since he looks like a CardCarryingVillain, I'm going with 4. He's strange and erratic.
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* Characterization: Being an entity of chaos, he looks pretty crazy. Still, it's it’s really, '''really''' hard to sort. 2 or 5? Dammit, but since he looks like a CardCarryingVillain, I'm going with 4. He's He’s strange and erratic.
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* Average: 2.2. Yup. The doubtful fans do have reason to question Discord's reformation.
Now let's check Queen Chrysalis.
Now let's check Queen Chrysalis.
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* Average: 2.2. Yup. The doubtful fans do have reason to question Discord's Discord’s reformation.
Nowlet's let’s check Queen Chrysalis.
Chrysalis:
Now
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* Motivation: Now that's pretty hard. She seems to be doing it for her kind, which would've made her a 2. But given her monstrosity in the comics, it's leaning to 4. I'll just play it safe and make it 3.
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* Motivation: Now that's that’s pretty hard. She seems to be doing it for her kind, which would've would’ve made her a 2. But given her monstrosity in the comics, it's it’s leaning to 4. I'll just play it safe and make it 3.
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And now let's check the minor villains, since friendship is a prominent theme.
Let's start with the Flim Flam Brothers. Can they see the error of their ways?
Let's start with the Flim Flam Brothers. Can they see the error of their ways?
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And now let's let’s check the minor villains, since friendship is a prominent theme.
Let'stheme:
Let’s start with the Flim Flam Brothers. Can they see the error of their ways?
Let's
Let’s start with the Flim Flam Brothers. Can they see the error of their ways?
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* Role: Traveler salesponies "nonpareil". 5.
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* Role: Traveler salesponies "nonpareil".''nonpareil''. 5.
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Now for the Diamond Dogs if there ever is another run-in.
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Now for the Diamond Dogs if there ever is another run-in.run-in:
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Now for Gilda.
* Species: Well, the dominant species are ponies. She's a griffon. 2.
* Species: Well, the dominant species are ponies. She's a griffon. 2.
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Now for Gilda.
Gilda:
* Species: Well, the dominant species are ponies.She's She’s a griffon. 2.
* Species: Well, the dominant species are ponies.
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Let's see about those 'villains' to the Cutie Mark Crusaders.
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Let's see about those 'villains' “villains” to the Cutie Mark Crusaders.
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* Age: They're just children. 2.
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* Role: Wonerbolt Academy cadet. 5.
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Last but not least, Trixie.
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Last but not least, Trixie.Trixie:
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* Age: Young Adult, in her early 30s. 4
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* Age: Young Adult, in her early 30s.thirties. 4
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* Characterization: "Very lost and confused" doesn't ''begin'' to cover it. 5.
* Contentness: Again, the description ("Angst, angst, angst") is an understatement. 5.
* Contentness: Again, the description ("Angst, angst, angst") is an understatement. 5.
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* Characterization: "Very “Very lost and confused" confused” doesn't ''begin'' to cover it. 5.
* Contentness: Again, the description("Angst, (“Angst, angst, angst") angst”) is an understatement. 5.
* Contentness: Again, the description
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* Idealism: ''Definately'' on the idealistic side. 5
Average: 40/10 = 4. Whether she [[RedemptionEarnsLife lives]] or [[RedemptionEqualsDeath dies]], Regina's getting redeemed.
Now, let's look at Rumplestiltskin / Mr. Gold's chances.
* Species: Was human, then wasn't, now he is again. 3
Average: 40/10 = 4. Whether she [[RedemptionEarnsLife lives]] or [[RedemptionEqualsDeath dies]], Regina's getting redeemed.
Now, let's look at Rumplestiltskin / Mr. Gold's chances.
* Species: Was human, then wasn't, now he is again. 3
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* Idealism: ''Definately'' ''Definitely'' on the idealistic side. 5
Average: 40/10 = 4. Whether she [[RedemptionEarnsLife lives]] or [[RedemptionEqualsDeath dies]],Regina's Regina’s getting redeemed.
Now, let'sredeemed. [[spoiler:Indeed, she did.]]
Now let’s look at the chances of Rumplestiltskin / Mr.Gold's chances.
Gold.
* Species: Was human, thenwasn't, wasn’t, now he is again. 3
Average: 40/10 = 4. Whether she [[RedemptionEarnsLife lives]] or [[RedemptionEqualsDeath dies]],
Now, let's
Now let’s look at the chances of Rumplestiltskin / Mr.
* Species: Was human, then
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* Age: Middle Aged, in his 40s or so. 3
* Role: ''Used'' to be the BiggerBad, but is an Opportunist just like Regina now. 2
* Aesthetics: Used to be lowest on this scale as Rumple, but as Mr. Gold, he's a case of EvilIsSexy. 4
* Role: ''Used'' to be the BiggerBad, but is an Opportunist just like Regina now. 2
* Aesthetics: Used to be lowest on this scale as Rumple, but as Mr. Gold, he's a case of EvilIsSexy. 4
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* Age: Middle Aged, in his 40s forties or so. 3
* Role: ''Used'' to be theBiggerBad, GreaterScopeVillain, but is an Opportunist just like Regina now. 2
* Aesthetics: Used to be lowest on this scale as Rumple, but as Mr. Gold,he's he’s a case of EvilIsSexy. 4
* Role: ''Used'' to be the
* Aesthetics: Used to be lowest on this scale as Rumple, but as Mr. Gold,
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Average: 37/10 = 3.7 Not ''quite'' as high as Regina's score, but very close, meaning he's a shoe-in for redemption too.
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Average: 37/10 = 3.7 Not ''quite'' as high as Regina's Regina’s score, but very close, meaning he's he’s a shoe-in shoo-in for redemption too.
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* Age: Young Adult. Like Regina, he's only in his early 30s. 3
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* Age: Young Adult. Like Regina, he's he’s only in his early 30s.thirties. 3
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* Motivation: Partly for revenge, partly because he thinks it's justified. 3.5
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* Motivation: Partly for revenge, partly because he thinks it's it’s justified. 3.5
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Average: 39/10 = 3.9 Rumple created Hook's misery to start with, so obviously if Rumple can be redeemed, so can Hook.
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Average: 39/10 = 3.9 Rumple created Hook's Hook’s misery to start with, so obviously if Rumple can be redeemed, so can Hook.
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What about Kiryuin Satsuki from Kill la Kill?
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What about Kiryuin Satsuki from Kill la Kill?
''Anime/KillLaKill''?
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* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: Teenager, 5
* Role: Primary antagonist (not the Big Bad but responsible for most of the conflict), 1
* Aesthetics: Attractive, 4
* Motivation: Social Darwinist, 3
* Characterization: Honorable, 4
* Contentedness: Doing well, 2
* Morality: Good, Bad and Evil, 4
* Idealism: Idealistic, 5
* Age: Teenager, 5
* Role: Primary antagonist (not the Big Bad but responsible for most of the conflict), 1
* Aesthetics: Attractive, 4
* Motivation: Social Darwinist, 3
* Characterization: Honorable, 4
* Contentedness: Doing well, 2
* Morality: Good, Bad and Evil, 4
* Idealism: Idealistic, 5
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* Gender: Female, Female. 4
* Age:Teenager, Teenager. 5
* Role: Primary antagonist (not the Big Bad but responsible for most of theconflict), conflict). 1
* Aesthetics:Attractive, Attractive. 4
* Motivation: SocialDarwinist, Darwinist. 3
* Characterization:Honorable, Honorable. 4
* Contentedness: Doingwell, well. 2
* Morality: Good, Bad andEvil, Evil. 4
* Idealism:Idealistic, Idealistic. 5
* Age:
* Role: Primary antagonist (not the Big Bad but responsible for most of the
* Aesthetics:
* Motivation: Social
* Characterization:
* Contentedness: Doing
* Morality: Good, Bad and
* Idealism:
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Let's take a look at just how predictable the fall of Satan was. We'll only count Literature/TheBible for this.
* Species: Angels are definitely a SuperiorSpecies from a human perspective, but going by Biblical descriptions they also fall very much under "inhuman and creepy-looking". Averages out at a 2.5.
* Gender: Male, 4.
* Species: Angels are definitely a SuperiorSpecies from a human perspective, but going by Biblical descriptions they also fall very much under "inhuman and creepy-looking". Averages out at a 2.5.
* Gender: Male, 4.
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* Species: Angels are definitely a SuperiorSpecies from a human perspective, but going by Biblical descriptions they also fall very much under
* Gender:
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* Aesthetics: Biblical angels are definitely otherworldly, 5.
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* Aesthetics: Biblical angels are definitely otherworldly, otherworldly. 5.
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* Contentedness: Neutral as far as we know, 3.
* Morality: Earthly conflicts gravitate towards GrayAndBlackMorality, but things in Heaven are very much black and white. Let's go with a 3.
* Morality: Earthly conflicts gravitate towards GrayAndBlackMorality, but things in Heaven are very much black and white. Let's go with a 3.
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* Contentedness: Neutral as far as we know, know. 3.
* Morality: Earthly conflicts gravitate towards GrayAndBlackMorality, but things in Heaven are very much black and white.Let's Let’s go with a 3.
* Morality: Earthly conflicts gravitate towards GrayAndBlackMorality, but things in Heaven are very much black and white.
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* Gender: Male, 2.
* Age: Much, ''much'' older, 1.
* Role: Leader, 1.
* Aesthetics: Monstrous, 1.
* Age: Much, ''much'' older, 1.
* Role: Leader, 1.
* Aesthetics: Monstrous, 1.
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* Gender: Male, Male. 2.
* Age: Much, ''much''older, older. 1.
* Role:Leader, Leader. 1.
* Aesthetics:Monstrous, Monstrous. 1.
* Age: Much, ''much''
* Role:
* Aesthetics:
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* Characterization: Pretty much the epitome of ObviouslyEvil, 1.
* Contentedness: Pretty much neutral, 3.
* Contentedness: Pretty much neutral, 3.
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* Characterization: Pretty much the epitome of ObviouslyEvil, ObviouslyEvil. 1.
* Contentedness: Pretty muchneutral, neutral. 3.
* Contentedness: Pretty much
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How about Neville from Series/{{iCarly}}? Was his HeelFaceTurn plausible?
How about Neville from Series/{{iCarly}}? Was his HeelFaceTurn plausible?
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How about
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* Gender: Male, 2.
* Age: Teenager, 5.
* Age: Teenager, 5.
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* Gender: Male, Male. 2.
* Age:Teenager, Teenager. 5.
* Age:
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* Aesthetics: Pretty plain looking, 3.
* Motivation: LoveMakesYouEvil, but not in a "loyalty" sense. Could probably fall under "Unscrupulous with some kind of goal", so 2.
* Motivation: LoveMakesYouEvil, but not in a "loyalty" sense. Could probably fall under "Unscrupulous with some kind of goal", so 2.
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* Aesthetics: Pretty plain looking, looking. 3.
* Motivation: LoveMakesYouEvil, but not in a"loyalty" “loyalty” sense. Could probably fall under "Unscrupulous “Unscrupulous with some kind of goal", goal,” so 2.
* Motivation: LoveMakesYouEvil, but not in a
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So how likely was [[VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft Jaina Proudmoore]] [[MemeticMutation being a Dreadlord all along?]] With the story development in ''Legion'', how likely will she snap and become a Raid Boss? Let's find out!
So how likely was [[VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft Jaina Proudmoore]] [[MemeticMutation being a Dreadlord all along?]] With the story development in ''Legion'', how likely will she snap and become a Raid Boss? Let's find out!
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''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'': So how likely was
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* Age: She's a young adult. 5
* Role: At the rate of what she is in [=WoW=] she's left Dalaran in anger, thus more likely a Freelancer. 4
* Aesthetics: In average, 3, this is because by default she's an attractive blonde, but after the Bombing of Theramore, her hair is bleached white. So average between 1 and 5.
* Motivation: Usually, for peace to be attained. We cannot say 1 as she's now too bitter and leans more into WellIntentionedExtremist AT BEST. So 3.
* Role: At the rate of what she is in [=WoW=] she's left Dalaran in anger, thus more likely a Freelancer. 4
* Aesthetics: In average, 3, this is because by default she's an attractive blonde, but after the Bombing of Theramore, her hair is bleached white. So average between 1 and 5.
* Motivation: Usually, for peace to be attained. We cannot say 1 as she's now too bitter and leans more into WellIntentionedExtremist AT BEST. So 3.
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* Age: She's She’s a young adult. 5
* Role: At the rate of what she is in [=WoW=]she's she’s left Dalaran in anger, thus more likely a Freelancer. 4
* Aesthetics: In average, 3, this is because by defaultshe's she’s an attractive blonde, but after the Bombing of Theramore, her hair is bleached white. So average between 1 and 5.
* Motivation: Usually, for peace to be attained. We cannot say 1 asshe's she’s now too bitter and leans more into WellIntentionedExtremist AT BEST. So 3.
* Role: At the rate of what she is in [=WoW=]
* Aesthetics: In average, 3, this is because by default
* Motivation: Usually, for peace to be attained. We cannot say 1 as
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* Morality of the story: Alliance and Horde has no higher ground in here. And then there's the Burning Legion... 5.
* Idealism of the story: It's Blizzard, the company with a boner for CrapsackWorld, DownerEnding, etc, and they seem to designate Azeroth as such (not so much for [[VideoGame/StarCraft Korprulu Sector]] lately). 5.
* Average: 38/10: 3.8. It's very probable. And since it's Blizzard... well yeah, we might as well get our gears up and prepare to raid Jaina one day, and remember her good old self by playing ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm''...
* Idealism of the story: It's Blizzard, the company with a boner for CrapsackWorld, DownerEnding, etc, and they seem to designate Azeroth as such (not so much for [[VideoGame/StarCraft Korprulu Sector]] lately). 5.
* Average: 38/10: 3.8. It's very probable. And since it's Blizzard... well yeah, we might as well get our gears up and prepare to raid Jaina one day, and remember her good old self by playing ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm''...
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* Morality of the story: Alliance and Horde has no higher ground in here. And then there's there’s the Burning Legion... 5.
* Idealism of the story:It's It’s Blizzard, the company with a boner for CrapsackWorld, DownerEnding, etc, and they seem to designate Azeroth as such (not so much for [[VideoGame/StarCraft Korprulu Sector]] lately). 5.
* Average: 38/10: 3.8.It's It’s very probable. And since it's Blizzard... well yeah, we might as well get our gears up and prepare to raid Jaina one day, and remember her good old self by playing ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm''...
* Idealism of the story:
* Average: 38/10: 3.8.
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With Peridot and Lapis of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' redeeming themselves as the show goes on, will the last "Homeworld Gem" Jasper join them?
* Species: Gems are a text-book case of HumanOutsideAlienInside. 2.
* Species: Gems are a text-book case of HumanOutsideAlienInside. 2.
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With Peridot and Lapis of ''WesternAnimation/StevenUniverse'' redeeming themselves as the show goes on, will the last "Homeworld Gem" Jasper Homeworld Gem, Jasper, join them?
* Species: Gems are atext-book textbook case of HumanOutsideAlienInside. 2.
* Species: Gems are a
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* Motivation: Preaches social darwinism under the rule of the diamonds, and wants nothing but slow and painful revenge on "Rose Quartz". 3.
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* Motivation: Preaches social darwinism under the rule of the diamonds, and wants nothing but slow and painful revenge on "Rose Quartz".Rose Quartz. 3.
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* Aesthetics: There's nothing particularly beautiful or ugly about her in universe. 3.
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* Aesthetics: There's There’s nothing particularly beautiful or ugly about her in universe.in-universe. 3.
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* Characterization: Technically, she's already on team good, just too "anti" of an AntiHero who's enthusiastic about the Crystal Gems' cause but jaded towards Rose Quartz and their friendship. 5.
* Contentness: There's not buts about it: life sucks for her at the moment, DeathSeeker tendencies and all. 5.
* Contentness: There's not buts about it: life sucks for her at the moment, DeathSeeker tendencies and all. 5.
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* Characterization: Technically, she's she’s already on team good, just too "anti" “anti” of an AntiHero who's who’s enthusiastic about the Crystal Gems' Gems’ cause but jaded towards Rose Quartz and their friendship. 5.
* Contentness:There's not There’s no buts about it: life sucks for her at the moment, DeathSeeker tendencies and all. 5.
* Contentness:
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* Average: 38/10 = 3.8. Pretty high score for someone who tried to kill Steven. Once her "time out" is over, she'll be front and center for a change of heart in time for the finale.
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* Average: 38/10 = 3.8. Pretty high score for someone who tried to kill Steven. Once her "time out" “time out” is over, she'll be front and center for a change of heart in time for the finale.
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Considering how ''Reflections'' had her do something 'good' like visiting her husband's grave, how likely do you think Amelie Lacroix will re-emerge from Widowmaker, thereby starting her redemption arc?
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Considering how ''Reflections'' had her do something 'good' “good” like visiting her husband's husband’s grave, how likely do you think Amelie Lacroix will re-emerge from Widowmaker, thereby starting her redemption arc?
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* Role: She's pretty much TheHeavy and TheDragon, conditioned to be loyal to Talon. Therefore 4.
* Aesthetics: The game's poster girl for EvilIsSexy. 4.
* Motivation: After the brainwashing, [[ForTheEvulz she kills for the sake of 'feeling alive']], which puts her very low. However, if we talk about Amelie, she's basically brainwashed into it. For convenience's sake, let's just put the average, at 3.
* Characterization: Part of Talon is being CardCarryingVillain so far, so 1.
* Aesthetics: The game's poster girl for EvilIsSexy. 4.
* Motivation: After the brainwashing, [[ForTheEvulz she kills for the sake of 'feeling alive']], which puts her very low. However, if we talk about Amelie, she's basically brainwashed into it. For convenience's sake, let's just put the average, at 3.
* Characterization: Part of Talon is being CardCarryingVillain so far, so 1.
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* Role: She's She’s pretty much TheHeavy and TheDragon, conditioned to be loyal to Talon. Therefore 4.
* Aesthetics: Thegame's game’s poster girl for EvilIsSexy. 4.
* Motivation: After the brainwashing, [[ForTheEvulz she kills for the sake of'feeling alive']], “feeling alive”]], which puts her very low. However, if we talk about Amelie, she's she’s basically brainwashed into it. For convenience's convenience’s sake, let's let’s just put the average, at 3.
* Characterization: Part of Talon is being a CardCarryingVillain so far, so 1.
* Aesthetics: The
* Motivation: After the brainwashing, [[ForTheEvulz she kills for the sake of
* Characterization: Part of Talon is being a CardCarryingVillain so far, so 1.
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* Morality of the story: It's a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll give it an average of 3.
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* Morality of the story: It's It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll I’ll give it an average of 3.
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* Average: 31/10 = 3.1. It's just slightly above average, but the chance is there for Widowmaker to become Peacemaker...
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* Average: 31/10 = 3.1. It's It’s just slightly above average, but the chance is there for Widowmaker to become Peacemaker...
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* Age: Middle-aged, seeing that he's 50 during the Switzerland incident. 3
* Role: He combines being the other [[TheDragon Dragon]] for Talon and also a mercenary (Talon hired him). I'll give it 4.5.
* Role: He combines being the other [[TheDragon Dragon]] for Talon and also a mercenary (Talon hired him). I'll give it 4.5.
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* Age: Middle-aged, seeing that he's he’s 50 during the Switzerland incident. 3
* Role: He combines being the other [[TheDragon Dragon]] for Talon and also a mercenary (Talon hired him).I'll I’ll give it 4.5.
* Role: He combines being the other [[TheDragon Dragon]] for Talon and also a mercenary (Talon hired him).
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* Motivation: All he wanted was recognition, even if he has to do evil shits by it, though he does get kicks in doing bad stuffs. However, it wasn't part of what he was in the past, so... I'll give it 2.
* Characterization: Part of Talon is being CardCarryingVillain so far and Reaper does it par excellence, not to mention, back then he used to be so petty. So 1.
* Contentness: Like Widowmaker, Reaper's life after resurrection was a constant pain, but he made it up by relishing his evil ways. So he gets the same score: 2.
* Morality of the story: It's a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll give it an average of 3.
* Characterization: Part of Talon is being CardCarryingVillain so far and Reaper does it par excellence, not to mention, back then he used to be so petty. So 1.
* Contentness: Like Widowmaker, Reaper's life after resurrection was a constant pain, but he made it up by relishing his evil ways. So he gets the same score: 2.
* Morality of the story: It's a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll give it an average of 3.
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* Motivation: All he wanted was recognition, even if he has to do evil shits by it, though he does get kicks in doing bad stuffs. However, it wasn't wasn’t part of what he was in the past, so... I'll I’ll give it 2.
* Characterization: Part of Talon is being a CardCarryingVillain so far and Reaper does it par excellence, not to mention, back then he used to be so petty. So 1.
* Contentness: Like Widowmaker,Reaper's Reaper’s life after resurrection was a constant pain, but he made it up by relishing his evil ways. So he gets the same score: 2.
* Morality of the story:It's It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll I’ll give it an average of 3.
* Characterization: Part of Talon is being a CardCarryingVillain so far and Reaper does it par excellence, not to mention, back then he used to be so petty. So 1.
* Contentness: Like Widowmaker,
* Morality of the story:
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* Average: 25.5/10 = 2.55. Unlike Widowmaker, Reaper seemed more ''content'' in being evil, so I guess what was edgelord shall still be edgelords in the end... But it's not the bottom of the barrel, so there may be a slim chance.
To wrap up the first two, let's take a look at the final current members of Talon, Sombra. How likely do you think she turns out to be a hidden force of good?
To wrap up the first two, let's take a look at the final current members of Talon, Sombra. How likely do you think she turns out to be a hidden force of good?
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* Average: 25.5/10 = 2.55. Unlike Widowmaker, Reaper seemed more ''content'' in being evil, so I guess what was edgelord shall still be edgelords in the end... But it's it’s not the bottom of the barrel, so there may be a slim chance.
To wrap up the first two,let's let’s take a look at the final current members member of Talon, Sombra. How likely do you think she turns out to be a hidden force of good?
To wrap up the first two,
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* Role: Even when she worked with Talon, Sombra is an opportunist to heart, she's just using her allegiance to Talon to further her own goal, that we don't know yet. 2.
* Aesthetics: Well, while Sombra is not running on EvilIsSexy like Widowmaker, she's pretty attractive, actually that gives her a higher score: 5.
* Motivation: ForTheEvulz to the fullest: Sombra has no 'amoral handicap' unlike Widowmaker (brainwashed) or Reaper (constant pain every seconds), she's a bad girl because she likes it that way. 1.
* Characterization: Well, she's gunning down for a certain thing that we don't know of, but she also enjoys causing chaos here and there. 1.5.
* Aesthetics: Well, while Sombra is not running on EvilIsSexy like Widowmaker, she's pretty attractive, actually that gives her a higher score: 5.
* Motivation: ForTheEvulz to the fullest: Sombra has no 'amoral handicap' unlike Widowmaker (brainwashed) or Reaper (constant pain every seconds), she's a bad girl because she likes it that way. 1.
* Characterization: Well, she's gunning down for a certain thing that we don't know of, but she also enjoys causing chaos here and there. 1.5.
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* Role: Even when she worked with Talon, Sombra is an opportunist to heart, she's she’s just using her allegiance to Talon to further her own goal, that we don't know yet. 2.
* Aesthetics: Well, while Sombra is not running on EvilIsSexy like Widowmaker,she's she’s pretty attractive, actually that gives her a higher score: 5.
* Motivation: ForTheEvulz to the fullest: Sombra has no'amoral handicap' “amoral handicap” unlike Widowmaker (brainwashed) or Reaper (constant pain every seconds), she's second), she’s a bad girl because she likes it that way. 1.
* Characterization: Well,she's she’s gunning down for a certain thing that we don't don’t know of, but she also enjoys causing chaos here and there. 1.5.
* Aesthetics: Well, while Sombra is not running on EvilIsSexy like Widowmaker,
* Motivation: ForTheEvulz to the fullest: Sombra has no
* Characterization: Well,
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* Morality of the story: It's a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll give it an average of 3.
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* Morality of the story: It's It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll give it an average of 3.
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And now let's move to a grayer area. So, Symmetra is working for Vishkar... an 'obviously' corrupt corporates whose 'good intentions' fell flat in their faces with their oppression method. She has her doubts... but will the doubt finally be the catalyst of her giving them the boot?
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And now let's let’s move to a grayer area. So, Symmetra is working for Vishkar... an 'obviously' “obviously” corrupt corporates corporation whose 'good intentions' “good intentions” fell flat in on their faces with their oppression method.oppressive methods. She has her doubts... but will the doubt finally be the catalyst of her giving them the boot?
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* Aesthetics: She's definitely attractive, but not so much compared to Widowmaker. 5.
* Motivation: While a WellIntentionedExtremist, Symmetra has developed [[MyMasterRightOrWrong a little bit of doubts about Vishkar's actions]], even if she hasn't taken drastic measures. 5.
* Motivation: While a WellIntentionedExtremist, Symmetra has developed [[MyMasterRightOrWrong a little bit of doubts about Vishkar's actions]], even if she hasn't taken drastic measures. 5.
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* Aesthetics: She's She’s definitely attractive, but not so much compared to Widowmaker. 5.
* Motivation: While a WellIntentionedExtremist, Symmetra has developed [[MyMasterRightOrWrong a little bit of doubts aboutVishkar's Vishkar’s actions]], even if she hasn't hasn’t taken drastic measures. 5.
* Motivation: While a WellIntentionedExtremist, Symmetra has developed [[MyMasterRightOrWrong a little bit of doubts about
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* Contentness: Life is ''definitely'' hard for her, but she wouldn't angst about it every seconds. 4.
* Morality of the story: It's a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll give it an average of 3.
* Morality of the story: It's a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll give it an average of 3.
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* Contentness: Life is ''definitely'' hard for her, but she wouldn't wouldn’t angst about it every few seconds. 4.
* Morality of the story:It's It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. I'll I’ll give it an average of 3.
* Morality of the story:
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* Average: 40/10 = 4. Well there's a reason she's the AntiVillain, so Vishkar might want to count their days on when they'll stay relevantly evil, since Symmetra may either give them the boot, or as a part of redemption, reform it to a more honest corporate in vision of her order.
Well speaking of morally gray, Hanzo has been offered with the revival of his Shimada clan by Talon. He's... definitely not the white sheep or goody-goody brother unlike Genji... but how long will he keep his normal morality or will he end up selling his soul to the devil for the fallen family? Let's find out.
Well speaking of morally gray, Hanzo has been offered with the revival of his Shimada clan by Talon. He's... definitely not the white sheep or goody-goody brother unlike Genji... but how long will he keep his normal morality or will he end up selling his soul to the devil for the fallen family? Let's find out.
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* Average: 40/10 = 4. Well there's there’s a reason she's the AntiVillain, so Vishkar might want to count their days on when they'll they’ll stay relevantly evil, since Symmetra may either give them the boot, or as a part of redemption, reform it to a more honest corporate in vision of her order.
Well speaking of morally gray, Hanzo has been offered with the revival of his Shimada clan by Talon.He's...He’s... definitely not the white sheep or goody-goody brother unlike Genji... but how long will he keep his normal morality or will he end up selling his soul to the devil for the fallen family? Let's find out.
Well speaking of morally gray, Hanzo has been offered with the revival of his Shimada clan by Talon.
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* Motivation: "With every death comes honor. With honor, redemption." Yep. 3
* Characterization: While things wasn't as smooth in Hanzo's life, he's not as bitter as some like Soldier: 76. He can enjoy certain good things like buying a cake for a kid, eating ramen, crack joke or debate on which is better: wine or sake. However, he's also pretty arrogant when it comes to his skills against anyone else. I'll give it an average of 3.
* Characterization: While things wasn't as smooth in Hanzo's life, he's not as bitter as some like Soldier: 76. He can enjoy certain good things like buying a cake for a kid, eating ramen, crack joke or debate on which is better: wine or sake. However, he's also pretty arrogant when it comes to his skills against anyone else. I'll give it an average of 3.
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* Motivation: "With “With every death comes honor. With honor, redemption." ” Yep. 3
* Characterization: While thingswasn't weren’t as smooth in Hanzo's Hanzo’s life, he's he’s not as bitter as some like Soldier: 76. He can enjoy certain good things like buying a cake for a kid, eating ramen, crack joke or debate on which is better: wine or sake. However, he's he’s also pretty arrogant when it comes to his skills against anyone else. I'll I’ll give it an average of 3.
* Characterization: While things
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* Morality of the story: It's a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. In this score? 2.5
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* Morality of the story: It's It’s a MoralityKitchenSink thus TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, but the poster boys and girls seems to like to promote BlackAndWhiteMorality. In this score? 2.5
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For Marvel Cinematic Universe folks who've seen ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': we maybe weren't expecting to see Loki pull a HeelFaceTurn. Or has he? Is he actually planning to stay on Team Good Guy? What's in his future - becoming TheAtoner, RedemptionEqualsDeath, just plain being a RetiredMonster, or... screwing over the heroes yet again?
For Marvel Cinematic Universe folks who've seen ''Film/ThorRagnarok'': we maybe weren't expecting to see Loki pull a HeelFaceTurn. Or has he? Is he actually planning to stay on Team Good Guy? What's in his future - becoming TheAtoner, RedemptionEqualsDeath, just plain being a RetiredMonster, or... screwing over the heroes yet again?
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For Marvel Cinematic Universe folks
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* Gender: Male. 2. (In the comics he's genderfluid but defaults to male, but that's a different continuity so we'll leave that aside.)
* Age: Youngish adult in appearance at least, though he's ReallySevenHundredYearsOld. Call it a 4.
* Role: ExBigBad. May or may not still be TheDragon to the GreaterScopeVillain. I guess that's a 4 if he's TheDragon?
* Aesthetics: EvilIsSexy, EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette flavor. (Thor calling him "greasy and weaselly" notwithstanding.) 4.
* Age: Youngish adult in appearance at least, though he's ReallySevenHundredYearsOld. Call it a 4.
* Role: ExBigBad. May or may not still be TheDragon to the GreaterScopeVillain. I guess that's a 4 if he's TheDragon?
* Aesthetics: EvilIsSexy, EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette flavor. (Thor calling him "greasy and weaselly" notwithstanding.) 4.
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* Gender: Male. 2. (In the comics he's he’s genderfluid but defaults to male, but that's that’s a different continuity so we'll we’ll leave that aside.)
* Age: Youngish adult in appearance at least, thoughhe's he’s ReallySevenHundredYearsOld. Call it a 4.
* Role: ExBigBad. May or may not still be TheDragon to the GreaterScopeVillain. I guess that's a 4 ifhe's he’s TheDragon?
* Aesthetics: EvilIsSexy, EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette flavor. (Thor calling him"greasy “greasy and weaselly" weaselly” notwithstanding.) 4.
* Age: Youngish adult in appearance at least, though
* Role: ExBigBad. May or may not still be TheDragon to the GreaterScopeVillain. I guess that's a 4 if
* Aesthetics: EvilIsSexy, EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette flavor. (Thor calling him
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* Characterization: Rather inconsistent between movies, DependingOnTheWriter - sometimes he's an AntiVillain (Thor: The Dark World) and sometimes he's AxCrazy (The Avengers). He's calmed down a lot, but he still definitely has ChronicBackstabbingDisorder and is pretty strange and erratic. 2.
* Contentness: Used to be obviously miserable and taking out said misery on everyone around him, but appears to have undergone some CharacterDevelopment and become a fair bit cheerier. Let's say 3.
* Contentness: Used to be obviously miserable and taking out said misery on everyone around him, but appears to have undergone some CharacterDevelopment and become a fair bit cheerier. Let's say 3.
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* Characterization: Rather inconsistent between movies, DependingOnTheWriter - sometimes he's he’s an AntiVillain (Thor: (''Thor: The Dark World) World'') and sometimes he's he’s AxCrazy (The Avengers). He's (''The Avengers''). He’s calmed down a lot, but he still definitely has ChronicBackstabbingDisorder and is pretty strange and erratic. 2.
* Contentness: Used to be obviously miserable and taking out said misery on everyone around him, but appears to have undergone some CharacterDevelopment and become a fair bit cheerier.Let's Let’s say 3.
* Contentness: Used to be obviously miserable and taking out said misery on everyone around him, but appears to have undergone some CharacterDevelopment and become a fair bit cheerier.
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* Average: 29/10 = 2.9. Higher than you'd expect for a dude who [[EarthShatteringKaboom tried to blow up a planet]] and then tried to TakeOverTheWorld. Considering that the GreaterScopeVillain's spaceship showed up at the end of the movie and said villain would ''not'' be pleased if Loki betrays him - and that Thor's steering the ship back to Earth, where no doubt everyone would also be out for Loki's blood - sticking with Thor does not look like a very attractive option from Loki's perspective. But then, [[ChangedMyMindKid he did go with the gladiator slaves to fight Hela and rescue the Asgardians]] when he could easily have just decided ScrewThisImOuttaHere and flown their spaceship elsewhere. Who the hell knows?
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* Average: 29/10 = 2.9. Higher than you'd you’d expect for a dude who [[EarthShatteringKaboom tried to blow up a planet]] and then tried to TakeOverTheWorld. Considering that the GreaterScopeVillain's GreaterScopeVillain’s spaceship showed up at the end of the movie and said villain would ''not'' be pleased if Loki betrays him - and that Thor's Thor’s steering the ship back to Earth, where no doubt everyone would also be out for Loki's Loki’s blood - sticking with Thor does not look like a very attractive option from Loki's Loki’s perspective. But then, [[ChangedMyMindKid he did go with the gladiator slaves to fight Hela and rescue the Asgardians]] when he could easily have just decided ScrewThisImOuttaHere and flown their spaceship elsewhere. Who the hell knows?
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Let's do ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates''. How likely was it that [[spoiler:Takumi]] was going to succumb to his DemonicPossession and become a FallenHero?
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* Contentness: In ''Birthright'', he's a bit surly and distrustful, but he has his friends and family with him, so let's give him a 3. In ''Conquest'', he's rather angry about the Avatar's betrayal and his kingdom getting its ass kicked in a war. 5.
* Morality of the story: For the most part, GreyAndGrayMorality; the GreaterScopeVillain doesn't directly enter the plot outside ''Revelation''. 4.
* Morality of the story: For the most part, GreyAndGrayMorality; the GreaterScopeVillain doesn't directly enter the plot outside ''Revelation''. 4.
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* Contentness: In ''Birthright'', he's he’s a bit surly and distrustful, but he has his friends and family with him, so let's let’s give him a 3. In ''Conquest'', he's he’s rather angry about the Avatar's Avatar’s betrayal and his kingdom getting its ass kicked in a war. 5.
* Morality of the story: For the most part, GreyAndGrayMorality; the GreaterScopeVillaindoesn't doesn’t directly enter the plot outside ''Revelation''. 4.
* Morality of the story: For the most part, GreyAndGrayMorality; the GreaterScopeVillain
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* Average: 31/10 = 3.1 for ''Birthright'', 33/10 = 3.3 for ''Conquest''. [[spoiler:Takumi]] was on a razor's edge the whole way through, and it's really your influence that determines whether he comes back from the brink (''Birthright'') or goes over the edge (''Conquest'').
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* Average: 31/10 = 3.1 for ''Birthright'', 33/10 = 3.3 for ''Conquest''. [[spoiler:Takumi]] was on a razor's razor’s edge the whole way through, and it's it’s really your influence that determines whether he comes back from the brink (''Birthright'') or goes over the edge (''Conquest'').
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Now, for a somewhat controversial use of the scale. It is time to settle a question that is furiously debated on practically every online forum that doesn't have a BanOnPolitics. Who was more evil, Hitler or Stalin?
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Now, for a somewhat controversial use of the scale. It is time to settle a question that is furiously debated on practically every online forum that doesn't doesn’t have a BanOnPolitics. Who was more evil, Hitler or Stalin?
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* Species: Everyone in RealLife is human, so this doesn't apply
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: He came to power when he was in his forties, and started UsefulNotes/WorldWarII when he turned fifty, 3
* Role: The ''one'' BigBad, not only of the war but arguably the entire century, 1
* Aesthetics: He was pretty ugly, 3
* Motivation: Though he was no doubt a monster, he did not do it just ForTheEvulz. He wanted power, but that was derived from his social Darwinism and belief that "inferior races" must be eliminated. I will combine both for, 2.5
* Characterization: Did he ever talk about anything other than killing those who weren't part of his MasterRace? 1
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: He came to power when he was in his forties, and started UsefulNotes/WorldWarII when he turned fifty, 3
* Role: The ''one'' BigBad, not only of the war but arguably the entire century, 1
* Aesthetics: He was pretty ugly, 3
* Motivation: Though he was no doubt a monster, he did not do it just ForTheEvulz. He wanted power, but that was derived from his social Darwinism and belief that "inferior races" must be eliminated. I will combine both for, 2.5
* Characterization: Did he ever talk about anything other than killing those who weren't part of his MasterRace? 1
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* Species: Everyone in RealLife is human, so this doesn't apply
doesn’t apply.
* Gender:Male, Male. 2
* Age: He came to power when he was in his forties, and started UsefulNotes/WorldWarII when he turnedfifty, fifty. 3
* Role: The ''one'' BigBad, not only of the war but arguably the entirecentury, century. 1
* Aesthetics: He was prettyugly, ugly. 3
* Motivation: Though he was no doubt a monster, he did not do it just ForTheEvulz. He wanted power, but that was derived from his social Darwinism and belief that"inferior races" “inferior races” must be eliminated. I will combine both for, for 2.5
* Characterization: Did he ever talk about anything other than killing those whoweren't weren’t part of his MasterRace? 1
* Gender:
* Age: He came to power when he was in his forties, and started UsefulNotes/WorldWarII when he turned
* Role: The ''one'' BigBad, not only of the war but arguably the entire
* Aesthetics: He was pretty
* Motivation: Though he was no doubt a monster, he did not do it just ForTheEvulz. He wanted power, but that was derived from his social Darwinism and belief that
* Characterization: Did he ever talk about anything other than killing those who
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* Morality of the story: RealLife, by definition, [[MoralityKitchenSink has people of every moral persuasion]], 4
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* Morality of the story: RealLife, by definition, [[MoralityKitchenSink has people of every moral persuasion]], persuasion]]. 4
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* Gender: Male, 2
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* Gender: Male, Male. 2
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* Role: We're comparing him to Hitler, so only his role during the war will be counted. He was technically on the same side as the Allies for that one; we can consider him an Opportunist, 2
* Aesthetics: He looked pretty normal during his time in power, 3
* Motivation: [[ItsAllAboutMe Power, power, and nothing else but power]], 2
* Characterization: LawfulEvil, 3
* Contentness: During the war, he claimed to be suffering but it didn't really affect him. Let's go with neutral, 3
* Morality of the story: See above, 4
* Idealism of the story: See above, N/A
* Average: 21/8 = 2.625. Okay, it's downright disturbing how close to the dividing line he is. (He may even cross it, if 2.5 is considered 50/50.) Then again, he ''did'' side with the allies when Hitler was threatening everyone (albeit for purely selfish reasons). That there are villains with even higher scores than this does not make it any less disturbing.
* Aesthetics: He looked pretty normal during his time in power, 3
* Motivation: [[ItsAllAboutMe Power, power, and nothing else but power]], 2
* Characterization: LawfulEvil, 3
* Contentness: During the war, he claimed to be suffering but it didn't really affect him. Let's go with neutral, 3
* Morality of the story: See above, 4
* Idealism of the story: See above, N/A
* Average: 21/8 = 2.625. Okay, it's downright disturbing how close to the dividing line he is. (He may even cross it, if 2.5 is considered 50/50.) Then again, he ''did'' side with the allies when Hitler was threatening everyone (albeit for purely selfish reasons). That there are villains with even higher scores than this does not make it any less disturbing.
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* Role: We're comparing him to Hitler, so only his role during the war will be counted. He was technically on the same side as the Allies for that one; we can consider him an Opportunist, Opportunist. 2
* Aesthetics: He looked pretty normal during his time inpower, power. 3
* Motivation: [[ItsAllAboutMe Power, power, and nothing else butpower]], power]]. 2
* Characterization:LawfulEvil, LawfulEvil. 3
* Contentness: During the war, he claimed to be suffering but itdidn't didn’t really affect him. Let's go with neutral, neutral. 3
* Morality of the story: Seeabove, above. 4
* Idealism of the story: Seeabove, above. N/A
* Average: 21/8 = 2.625. Okay,it's it’s downright disturbing how close to the dividing line he is. (He may even cross it, if 2.5 is considered 50/50.) Then again, he ''did'' side with the allies Allies when Hitler was threatening everyone (albeit for purely selfish reasons). That there are villains with even higher scores than this does not make it any less disturbing.
* Aesthetics: He looked pretty normal during his time in
* Motivation: [[ItsAllAboutMe Power, power, and nothing else but
* Characterization:
* Contentness: During the war, he claimed to be suffering but it
* Morality of the story: See
* Idealism of the story: See
* Average: 21/8 = 2.625. Okay,
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'''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'''
Let's see how Dr. Drakken and Shego will hold up. They've teamed up with Kim and Ron multiple times, and in the end they all saved the world together. And during the times they turned good (brainwashed or otherwise, like during Christmas), they were clearly having a blast! Could they hold up after the end?
Let's see how Dr. Drakken and Shego will hold up. They've teamed up with Kim and Ron multiple times, and in the end they all saved the world together. And during the times they turned good (brainwashed or otherwise, like during Christmas), they were clearly having a blast! Could they hold up after the end?
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Let's
''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'':
Let’s see how Dr. Drakken and Shego
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* Age: I'll say middle-aged (he was in college with Kim's dad) - 3
* Role: He is Kim's main and most recurring foe, but seeing as how he teams up with her quite a bit, especially during the Grand Finale, I'll be generous and call him an opportunist - 2
* Aesthetics: I'd say he's average - 3
* Role: He is Kim's main and most recurring foe, but seeing as how he teams up with her quite a bit, especially during the Grand Finale, I'll be generous and call him an opportunist - 2
* Aesthetics: I'd say he's average - 3
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* Age: I'll I’ll say middle-aged (he was in college with Kim's Kim’s dad) - 3
* Role: He isKim's Kim’s main and most recurring foe, but seeing as how he teams up with her quite a bit, especially during the Grand Finale, I'll I’ll be generous and call him an opportunist - 2
* Aesthetics:I'd I’d say he's he’s average - 3
* Role: He is
* Aesthetics:
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* Characterization: Card-carrying villain, but definitely possesses some decent qualities. Also, he and Kim (and Ron) definitely see each other as worthy opponents. I'll compromise - 2
* Contentness: He enjoys making evil plans, but he clearly experiences a lot of frustrations and setbacks. I'll go with neutral - 3
* Contentness: He enjoys making evil plans, but he clearly experiences a lot of frustrations and setbacks. I'll go with neutral - 3
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* Characterization: Card-carrying villain, but definitely possesses some decent qualities. Also, he and Kim (and Ron) definitely see each other as worthy opponents. I'll I’ll compromise - 2
* Contentness: He enjoys making evil plans, but he clearly experiences a lot of frustrations and setbacks.I'll I’ll go with neutral - 3
* Contentness: He enjoys making evil plans, but he clearly experiences a lot of frustrations and setbacks.
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* Role: Kind of a freelancer, but she's mostly Drakken's right-hand man - 4
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* Role: Kind of a freelancer, but she's mostly Drakken's Drakken’s right-hand man - 4
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* Motivation: It's a whole bunch of things, but I'd say she's mostly in it to enjoy herself - 1
* Characterization: Also a card-carrying villain, but she and Kim so obviously consider themselves worthy opponents to the point that they are oozing with FoeYay. Plus, as Kim states, she's softer than she lets on - 3
* Contentness: Usually she's about neutral - 3
* Characterization: Also a card-carrying villain, but she and Kim so obviously consider themselves worthy opponents to the point that they are oozing with FoeYay. Plus, as Kim states, she's softer than she lets on - 3
* Contentness: Usually she's about neutral - 3
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* Motivation: It's It’s a whole bunch of things, but I'd say she's she’s mostly in it to enjoy herself - 1
* Characterization: Also a card-carrying villain, but she and Kim so obviously consider themselves worthy opponents to the point that they are oozing with FoeYay. Plus, as Kim states,she's she’s softer than she lets on - 3
* Contentness: Usuallyshe's she’s about neutral - 3
* Characterization: Also a card-carrying villain, but she and Kim so obviously consider themselves worthy opponents to the point that they are oozing with FoeYay. Plus, as Kim states,
* Contentness: Usually
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So while neither of them is jumping up and down at the chance to turn (completely) good, it's not impossible. Surprisingly ([[FoeYay or not]]), Shego is more likely to fully turn than Dr. D. But then again, [[MinionShipping that might]] [[LoveRedeems just be a way to make him turn Face even more easily...]]
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So while neither of them is jumping up and down at the chance to turn (completely) good, it's it’s not impossible. Surprisingly ([[FoeYay or not]]), Shego is more likely to fully turn than Dr. D. But then again, [[MinionShipping that might]] [[LoveRedeems just be a way to make him turn Face even more easily...]]
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So, in ''VideoGame/LiveALive'', who'd da thunk that... [[spoiler:Oersted]], of all people, would SNAP so hard?
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So, in ''VideoGame/LiveALive'', who'd da who’da thunk that... that [[spoiler:Oersted]], of all people, would SNAP so hard?
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* Age: Since he's on the age of marrying, I'd say Young Adult. 5.
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* Age: Since he's on he’s at the age of marrying, I'd I’d say Young Adult. 5.
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* Motivation: He's out to save his love from the Demon King. 2.
* Characterization: Well he used to be a shining example of the cheered [[MessianicArchetype Messiah]], but slowly after shit hits the shoes, he became surly and bitter. On average, 2.
* Contentness: Oooh, angst angst angst! Sure we don't hear him talk due to being HeroicMime, but we sure know that's one massive angst source. 5.
* Morality: All over the place, game-wise. And we're not even sure how to dial him in his story, considering while White can be good, it goes jackass with him. Ignore.
* Characterization: Well he used to be a shining example of the cheered [[MessianicArchetype Messiah]], but slowly after shit hits the shoes, he became surly and bitter. On average, 2.
* Contentness: Oooh, angst angst angst! Sure we don't hear him talk due to being HeroicMime, but we sure know that's one massive angst source. 5.
* Morality: All over the place, game-wise. And we're not even sure how to dial him in his story, considering while White can be good, it goes jackass with him. Ignore.
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* Motivation: He's He’s out to save his love from the Demon King. 2.
* Characterization:Well Well, he used to be a shining example of the cheered cheery [[MessianicArchetype Messiah]], but slowly after shit hits the shoes, fan he became surly and bitter. On average, 2.
* Contentness: Oooh, angst angst angst! Sure wedon't don’t hear him talk due to being a HeroicMime, but we sure know that's that’s one massive angst source. 5.
* Morality: All over the place, game-wise. Andwe're we’re not even sure how to dial him in his own story, considering while White can be good, it goes jackass with him. Ignore.
* Characterization:
* Contentness: Oooh, angst angst angst! Sure we
* Morality: All over the place, game-wise. And
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* Average: 28/9: 3.11. Very slightly above average. [[spoiler:Oersted]] just got the shittiest luck and could've wished he's born in another more positive timeline...
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* Average: 28/9: 3.11. Very slightly above average. [[spoiler:Oersted]] just got the shittiest luck and could've could’ve wished he's he were born in another more positive timeline...
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* Species: She could be considered either a [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot human-looking android]] or a [[HumanAliens Human Alien]], so we'll split the difference, 2.5
* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: Chronologically, was created three years before the start of the series, but is mentally a teenager, so, 5
* Role: Hard to class; the closest thing is a RivalTurnedEvil to Yuki, 5
* Aesthetics: In the eyes of {{fanboy}}s, EvilIsSexy, 4
* Motivation: Not only does she have a goal, she keeps trying the same thing long after it's pointless, 2
* Characterization: Since she is an alien who views things fundamentally different to humans, does that count as "plain nuts"? 2
* Contentness: That is an emotion, which she does not possess, 3
* Morality of the story: RousseauWasRight, 5
* Idealism of the story: Despite being a DeconstructorFleet, it remains pretty idealistic, 5
* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: Chronologically, was created three years before the start of the series, but is mentally a teenager, so, 5
* Role: Hard to class; the closest thing is a RivalTurnedEvil to Yuki, 5
* Aesthetics: In the eyes of {{fanboy}}s, EvilIsSexy, 4
* Motivation: Not only does she have a goal, she keeps trying the same thing long after it's pointless, 2
* Characterization: Since she is an alien who views things fundamentally different to humans, does that count as "plain nuts"? 2
* Contentness: That is an emotion, which she does not possess, 3
* Morality of the story: RousseauWasRight, 5
* Idealism of the story: Despite being a DeconstructorFleet, it remains pretty idealistic, 5
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* Species: She could be considered either a [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot human-looking android]] or a [[HumanAliens Human Alien]], so we'll we’ll split the difference, difference. 2.5
* Gender:Female, Female. 4
* Age: Chronologically, was created three years before the start of the series, but is mentally a teenager,so, so 5
* Role: Hard to class; the closest thing is a RivalTurnedEvil toYuki, Yuki. 5
* Aesthetics: In the eyes of {{fanboy}}s,EvilIsSexy, EvilIsSexy. 4
* Motivation: Not only does she have a goal, she keeps trying the same thing long afterit's pointless, it’s become pointless. 2
* Characterization: Since she is an alien who views things fundamentallydifferent differently to humans, does that count as "plain nuts"? “plain nuts”? 2
* Contentness: That is an emotion,which and she does not possess, possess none. 3
* Morality of the story:RousseauWasRight, White and Gray. 5
* Idealism of the story: Despite being a DeconstructorFleet, it remains prettyidealistic, idealistic. 5
* Gender:
* Age: Chronologically, was created three years before the start of the series, but is mentally a teenager,
* Role: Hard to class; the closest thing is a RivalTurnedEvil to
* Aesthetics: In the eyes of {{fanboy}}s,
* Motivation: Not only does she have a goal, she keeps trying the same thing long after
* Characterization: Since she is an alien who views things fundamentally
* Contentness: That is an emotion,
* Morality of the story:
* Idealism of the story: Despite being a DeconstructorFleet, it remains pretty
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From the same series, what are the chances that Kyon's worries are correct and Mikuru becomes a morally questionable ManipulativeBastard like her future self?
* Species: Human, 3
* Gender: Female, 2
* Age: Teenager, though she is such a {{Moe}}blob she could probably qualify for ChildrenAreInnocent. We'll split the difference and say, 2.5
* Role: TrueCompanions, 3
* Aesthetics: {{Moe}} as all hell, 1
* Motivation: Her priority isn't to be "good" as much as it is to ensure that history goes the same way. It's hard to tell so far, but probably, 4.5
* Species: Human, 3
* Gender: Female, 2
* Age: Teenager, though she is such a {{Moe}}blob she could probably qualify for ChildrenAreInnocent. We'll split the difference and say, 2.5
* Role: TrueCompanions, 3
* Aesthetics: {{Moe}} as all hell, 1
* Motivation: Her priority isn't to be "good" as much as it is to ensure that history goes the same way. It's hard to tell so far, but probably, 4.5
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From the same series, what are the chances that Kyon's Kyon’s worries are correct and Mikuru becomes a morally questionable ManipulativeBastard like her future self?
* Species:Human, Human. 3
* Gender:Female, Female. 2
* Age: Teenager, though she is such a {{Moe}}blob she could probably qualify for ChildrenAreInnocent.We'll We’ll split the difference and say, say 2.5
* Role:TrueCompanions, TrueCompanions. 3
* Aesthetics: {{Moe}} as allhell, hell. 1
* Motivation: Her priority isn't to be"good" “good” as much as it is to ensure that history goes the same way. It's It’s hard to tell so far, but probably, probably 4.5
* Species:
* Gender:
* Age: Teenager, though she is such a {{Moe}}blob she could probably qualify for ChildrenAreInnocent.
* Role:
* Aesthetics: {{Moe}} as all
* Motivation: Her priority isn't to be
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* Contentness: Oh, damnit. [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale Life kind of]] [[YouCantFightFate sucks for her]], 4.5
* Morality of the story: Same as above, 1
* Cynicism of the story: Same as above, 1
* Average: 23.5/10 = 2.35. While she'll probably avoid becoming [[FutureMeScaresMe her future self]], she'd better be careful, and the rest of the SOS Brigade really should be supportive of her, lest she snap.
* Morality of the story: Same as above, 1
* Cynicism of the story: Same as above, 1
* Average: 23.5/10 = 2.35. While she'll probably avoid becoming [[FutureMeScaresMe her future self]], she'd better be careful, and the rest of the SOS Brigade really should be supportive of her, lest she snap.
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* Contentness: Oh, damnit. [[DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale Life kind of]] [[YouCantFightFate sucks for her]], her]]. 4.5
* Morality of the story: Same asabove, above. 1
* Cynicism of the story: Same asabove, above. 1
* Average: 23.5/10 = 2.35. Whileshe'll she’ll probably avoid becoming [[FutureMeScaresMe her future self]], she'd she’d better be careful, and the rest of the SOS Brigade really should be supportive of her, lest she snap.
* Morality of the story: Same as
* Cynicism of the story: Same as
* Average: 23.5/10 = 2.35. While
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Just to see if Gandalf with his wisdom should have predicted Saruman's Face/Heel turn:
* Species: Hm... what are wizards, actually? But they're very near to a superior species: 1
* Gender: Male, 4
* Age: He was supposed to be older and wiser, 2
* Role: He was a freelancer, wasn't he? 4
* Aesthetics: Dignified, 2
* Species: Hm... what are wizards, actually? But they're very near to a superior species: 1
* Gender: Male, 4
* Age: He was supposed to be older and wiser, 2
* Role: He was a freelancer, wasn't he? 4
* Aesthetics: Dignified, 2
to:
* Literature/TheLordOfTheRings: Just to see if Gandalf with his wisdom should have predicted Saruman's Face/Heel turn:
Saruman’s FaceHeelTurn:
* Species: Hm... what are wizards, actually? Butthey're they’re very near to a superior species: species. 1
* Gender:Male, Male. 4
* Age: He was supposed to be older andwiser, wiser. 2
* Role: He was a freelancer,wasn't wasn’t he? 4
* Aesthetics:Dignified, Dignified. 2
* Species: Hm... what are wizards, actually? But
* Gender:
* Age: He was supposed to be older and
* Role: He was a freelancer,
* Aesthetics:
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* Characterization: Likes to play with dangerous stuff, though Gandalf didn't know that, did he? I'll leave that out.
to:
* Characterization: Likes to play with dangerous stuff, though Gandalf didn't didn’t know that, did he? I'll leave that out.
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* Morality of the story: Black and white, 2
* Idealism: Quite idealistic, 2
22:8 = 2.75 We can't blame Gandalf for his surprise, though Saruman's lack of a clear motivation should have given him pause to think.
Judging how most if the fanbase of ''LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana'' says that Yuji Sakai went all evil after merging with the Snake of the Festival, let's see if they're right
* Species: Human, 3
* Gender: Male, 4
* Age: Teenager, 4
* Role: TheHero (probably the closest to one), 1
* Idealism: Quite idealistic, 2
22:8 = 2.75 We can't blame Gandalf for his surprise, though Saruman's lack of a clear motivation should have given him pause to think.
Judging how most if the fanbase of ''LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana'' says that Yuji Sakai went all evil after merging with the Snake of the Festival, let's see if they're right
* Species: Human, 3
* Gender: Male, 4
* Age: Teenager, 4
* Role: TheHero (probably the closest to one), 1
to:
* Morality of the story: Black and white, white. 2
* Idealism: Quiteidealistic, idealistic. 2
22:8 = 2.75 Wecan't can’t blame Gandalf for his surprise, though Saruman's Saruman’s lack of a clear motivation should have given him pause to think.
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Judging how most if the fanbase of ''LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana'' says that Yuji Sakai went all evil after merging with the Snake of the Festival, let's see ifthey're right
they’re right:
* Species:Human, Human. 3
* Gender:Male, Male. 4
* Age:Teenager, Teenager. 4
* Role: TheHero (probably the closest toone), one). 1
* Idealism: Quite
22:8 = 2.75 We
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Judging how most if the fanbase of ''LightNovel/ShakuganNoShana'' says that Yuji Sakai went all evil after merging with the Snake of the Festival, let's see if
* Species:
* Gender:
* Age:
* Role: TheHero (probably the closest to
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Now that he's joined the Bal Masque, let's see if he can redeem himself and shed off all the demonization the fandom often gives him
* Species: Human, 3
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Teenager, 5
* Role: This one's complicated. You got a BigBad that is actually the BigGood, and judging how he joins two factions throughout the course of the story, this would also make him a freelancer. To balance things out, let's make it 3
* Species: Human, 3
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Teenager, 5
* Role: This one's complicated. You got a BigBad that is actually the BigGood, and judging how he joins two factions throughout the course of the story, this would also make him a freelancer. To balance things out, let's make it 3
to:
Now that he's he’s joined the Bal Masque, let's let’s see if he can redeem himself and shed off all the demonization the fandom often gives him
him:
* Species:Human, Human. 3
* Gender:Male, Male. 2
* Age:Teenager, Teenager. 5
* Role: Thisone's one is complicated. You got a BigBad that is actually the BigGood, and judging how he joins two factions throughout the course of the story, this would also make him a freelancer. To balance things out, let's make it 3
* Species:
* Gender:
* Age:
* Role: This
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* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality, 3
to:
* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality, GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
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We already knew that Margery Daw {{Heel Face Turn}}s after Shana and Yuji defeat her, let's see how likely she was to do it
* Species: Human, 3
* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: She's lived for centuries, 1
* Species: Human, 3
* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: She's lived for centuries, 1
to:
We already knew that Margery Daw {{Heel Face Turn}}s after Shana and Yuji defeat her, let's see how likely she was to do it
it:
* Species:Human, Human. 3
* Gender:Female, Female. 4
* Age:She's She’s lived for centuries, centuries. 1
* Species:
* Gender:
* Age:
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* Aesthetics: She's the MsFanservice, 4
to:
* Aesthetics: She's the MsFanservice, She’s MsFanservice. 4
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* Contentness: She's had a pretty hard life, 4
* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality, 3
* Idealism, same as above, 4
* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality, 3
* Idealism, same as above, 4
to:
* Contentness: She's She’s had a pretty hard life, life. 4
* Morality:GreyAndGreyMorality, GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
*Idealism, same Idealism: Same as above, above. 4
* Morality:
*
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Now Snake of the Festival Yuji drove her towards the DespairEventHorizon, let's see how likely she is to go back to Heel
* Species: Human, 3
* Gender: Female, 2
* Age: Centuries-old, 2
* Species: Human, 3
* Gender: Female, 2
* Age: Centuries-old, 2
to:
Now Snake of the Festival Yuji drove her towards the DespairEventHorizon, let's let’s see how likely she is to go back to Heel
Heel:
* Species:Human, Human. 3
* Gender:Female, Female. 2
* Age:Centuries-old, Centuries-old. 2
* Species:
* Gender:
* Age:
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* Aesthetics: MsFanservice, 1
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* Aesthetics: MsFanservice, MsFanservice. 1
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* Contentness: Her life's pretty damn hard, and Snake of the Festival Yuji [[SerialEscalation exacerbated]] it, probably 4.5
* Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality, 4
* Idealism: Same as above, 2
29/10 = 2.9 She was dangerously close, and Keisaku's confession of his love to her saved her from going back to Heel
Now for Sydonnay
* Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality, 4
* Idealism: Same as above, 2
29/10 = 2.9 She was dangerously close, and Keisaku's confession of his love to her saved her from going back to Heel
Now for Sydonnay
to:
* Contentness: Her life's life’s pretty damn hard, and Snake of the Festival Yuji [[SerialEscalation exacerbated]] it, probably 4.5
* Morality:GreyAndGrayMorality, GreyAndGrayMorality. 4
* Idealism: Same asabove, above. 2
29/10 = 2.9 She was dangerously close, andKeisaku's Keisaku’s confession of his love to her saved her from going back to Heel
Heel.
Now forSydonnaySydonnay:
* Morality:
* Idealism: Same as
29/10 = 2.9 She was dangerously close, and
Now for
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* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Centuries-old, 1
* Role: Supporter of the Bal Masque, 4
* Aesthetics: OneWingedAngel, 2
* Motivation: Deeply cares for Hecate, 5
* Age: Centuries-old, 1
* Role: Supporter of the Bal Masque, 4
* Aesthetics: OneWingedAngel, 2
* Motivation: Deeply cares for Hecate, 5
to:
* Gender: Male, Male. 2
* Age:Centuries-old, Centuries-old. 1
* Role: Supporter of the BalMasque, Masque. 4
* Aesthetics:OneWingedAngel, OneWingedAngel. 2
* Motivation: Deeply cares forHecate, Hecate. 5
* Age:
* Role: Supporter of the Bal
* Aesthetics:
* Motivation: Deeply cares for
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* Contentness: He wants to stay with Hecate, which eventually lead to his death, he's probably around 4.5
* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality, 3
* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality, 3
to:
* Contentness: He wants to stay with Hecate, which eventually lead to his death, he's so he’s probably around 4.5
* Morality:GreyAndGreyMorality, GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
* Morality:
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32.5 So his deep love for Hecate did redeem him after all
Now for Bel Peol
* Species: Humanoid, 2
* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: Centuries-old, 1
* Role: TheDragon, 4
* Aesthetics: MsFanservice, 5
Now for Bel Peol
* Species: Humanoid, 2
* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: Centuries-old, 1
* Role: TheDragon, 4
* Aesthetics: MsFanservice, 5
to:
32.5 So his deep love for Hecate did redeem him after all
all.
Now for BelPeol
Peol:
* Species:Humanoid, Humanoid. 2
* Gender:Female, Female. 4
* Age:Centuries-old, Centuries-old. 1
* Role:TheDragon, TheDragon. 4
* Aesthetics:MsFanservice, MsFanservice. 5
Now for Bel
* Species:
* Gender:
* Age:
* Role:
* Aesthetics:
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* Characterization: As scheming and manipulative she is, she's also just as able to inspire loyalty to many, so 3.5
to:
* Characterization: As scheming and manipulative she is, she's she’s also just as able to inspire loyalty to many, so 3.5
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* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality, 3
* Idealism: Same as above, 4
33/10 = 3.3 So she's likely to turn Face, considering that she survives in the end
Let's see if evilly charming Road from ''Manga/DGrayMan'' will have to go the way of villains:
* Species: Everyone's human, I'll leave this out.
* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: About 12 or so, let's say child, 2
* Role: Quirky miniboss, 3
* Aesthetics: Cute in a loli way, lets say 4,5
* Motivation: Roady really likes to play rough but also likes the earl and her fellow Noah, make it 3
* Characterization: unpredictable, nuts 2
* Contentness: Road is having a lot of fun, 1
* Morality of the story: The main characters are mostly good, the earl and the Noah are evil. The Black Order is very gray: 3
* Idealism: pretty idealistic, the hero of the story is a messiah, 4
* Idealism: Same as above, 4
33/10 = 3.3 So she's likely to turn Face, considering that she survives in the end
Let's see if evilly charming Road from ''Manga/DGrayMan'' will have to go the way of villains:
* Species: Everyone's human, I'll leave this out.
* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: About 12 or so, let's say child, 2
* Role: Quirky miniboss, 3
* Aesthetics: Cute in a loli way, lets say 4,5
* Motivation: Roady really likes to play rough but also likes the earl and her fellow Noah, make it 3
* Characterization: unpredictable, nuts 2
* Contentness: Road is having a lot of fun, 1
* Morality of the story: The main characters are mostly good, the earl and the Noah are evil. The Black Order is very gray: 3
* Idealism: pretty idealistic, the hero of the story is a messiah, 4
to:
* Morality: GreyAndGreyMorality, GreyAndGreyMorality. 3
* Idealism: Same asabove, above. 4
33/10 = 3.3 Soshe's she’s likely to turn Face, considering that she survives in the end
Let'send.
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Let’s see if evilly charming Road from ''Manga/DGrayMan'' will have to go the way of villains:
* Species:Everyone's human, Everyone’s human; I'll leave this out.
* Gender:Female, Female. 4
* Age: About 12 or so,let's let’s say child, child. 2
* Role: Quirkyminiboss, miniboss. 3
* Aesthetics: Cute in a loli way,lets let’s say 4,5
4.5
* Motivation: Roady really likes to play rough but also likes theearl Earl and her fellow Noah, make it 3
* Characterization:unpredictable, nuts Unpredictable and nuts. 2
* Contentness: Road is having a lot offun, fun. 1
* Morality of the story: The main characters are mostly good, theearl Earl and the Noah are evil. The Black Order is very gray: 3
* Idealism:pretty Pretty idealistic, the hero of the story is a messiah, messiah. 4
* Idealism: Same as
33/10 = 3.3 So
Let's
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Let’s see if evilly charming Road from ''Manga/DGrayMan'' will have to go the way of villains:
* Species:
* Gender:
* Age: About 12 or so,
* Role: Quirky
* Aesthetics: Cute in a loli way,
* Motivation: Roady really likes to play rough but also likes the
* Characterization:
* Contentness: Road is having a lot of
* Morality of the story: The main characters are mostly good, the
* Idealism:
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** Given that Road has been revealed to be [[OlderThanTheyLook considerably older than she looks]] and she's been over the MoralEventHorizon for the entire series, her chances don't look good.
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** Given that Road has been revealed to be [[OlderThanTheyLook considerably older than she looks]] and she's she’s been over the MoralEventHorizon for the entire series, her chances don't don’t look good.
good.
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* Species: Human, 3
* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: Young Adult, 4
* Role: It's not entirely clear, but since she saw the opportunity to become Van Rook's new apprentice and seized on it, I'd say opportunist, definitely. 2.
* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: Young Adult, 4
* Role: It's not entirely clear, but since she saw the opportunity to become Van Rook's new apprentice and seized on it, I'd say opportunist, definitely. 2.
to:
* Species: Human, Human. 3
* Gender:Female, Female. 4
* Age: YoungAdult, Adult. 4
* Role:It's It’s not entirely clear, but since she saw the opportunity to become Van Rook's Rook’s new apprentice and seized on it, I'd I’d say opportunist, definitely. 2.
* Gender:
* Age: Young
* Role:
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* Contentness: I'd say she's doing pretty well. 2.
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* Contentness: I'd I’d say she's she’s doing pretty well. 2.
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* Idealism of the Story: There's some serious moments, but it's a mostly silly-hearted series, so 4.
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* Idealism of the Story: There's There’s some serious moments, but it's it’s a mostly silly-hearted silly light-hearted series, so 4.
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** VERY close to the middle but leaning ever-so-slightly toward a turn back to the good guys. It's definitely 50/50 and one of the more intriguing questions left to be answered as the show gears up for a third season.
Azula from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. Can a hug and a glass of milk from mommy really redeem this broken-down villain, or is she evil now and forever?
Azula from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. Can a hug and a glass of milk from mommy really redeem this broken-down villain, or is she evil now and forever?
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** VERY close to the middle but leaning ever-so-slightly toward a turn back to the good guys. It's It’s definitely 50/50 and one of the more intriguing questions left to be answered as the show gears up for a third season.
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Azula from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. Can a hug and a glass of milk frommommy Mommy really redeem this broken-down villain, or is she evil now and forever?
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Azula from ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. Can a hug and a glass of milk from
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* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: She WAS a CreepyChild, but she's a teenager now, so 5.
* Role: TheDragon, 4
* Asthetics: EvilIsSexy, 4
* Motivation: Though she COULD be classified as a WellDoneSonGuy, all but the most [[DracoInLeatherPants sympathetic]] interpretations of her character have her in it for power, or even just ForTheEvulz. 2 for now, but your mileage will vary BIG TIME.
* Age: She WAS a CreepyChild, but she's a teenager now, so 5.
* Role: TheDragon, 4
* Asthetics: EvilIsSexy, 4
* Motivation: Though she COULD be classified as a WellDoneSonGuy, all but the most [[DracoInLeatherPants sympathetic]] interpretations of her character have her in it for power, or even just ForTheEvulz. 2 for now, but your mileage will vary BIG TIME.
to:
* Gender: Female, Female. 4
* Age: She WAS a CreepyChild, butshe's she’s a teenager now, so 5.
* Role:TheDragon, TheDragon. 4
* Asthetics:EvilIsSexy, EvilIsSexy. 4
* Motivation: Though she COULD be classified as aWellDoneSonGuy, [[WellDoneSonGuy “Well Done, Daughter” Girl]], all but the most [[DracoInLeatherPants sympathetic]] interpretations of her character have her in it for power, or even just ForTheEvulz. 2 for now, but your mileage will may vary BIG TIME.
* Age: She WAS a CreepyChild, but
* Role:
* Asthetics:
* Motivation: Though she COULD be classified as a
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* Contentness: Hard to say. Used to be enjoying every minute (though some argue that a lot of that behavior was a facade to make herself scary and strong), but started angsting HEAVILY in the finale, one of the reasons a lot of fans started to sympathize with her toward the end. 1 OR 5, depending on your interpretation.
to:
* Contentness: Hard to say. Used to be enjoying every minute (though minute[[note]]though some argue that a lot of that behavior was a facade façade to make herself look scary and strong), strong[[/note]], but started angsting HEAVILY in the finale, which is one of the reasons a lot of fans started to sympathize with her toward the end. 1 OR 5, depending on your interpretation.
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* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, especially toward the end. 5
to:
* Idealism of the Story: Very idealistic, again, again especially toward the end. 5
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** Despite some admittedly unrepentantly evil moments, even a somewhat unsympathetic interpretation of Azula's character gives a somewhat optimistic number, owing to Azula's age and gender and the series' idealistic mindset in general. If there's ever a post-finale special or even a fourth season, chances range from just above 50/50 to actually pretty good that Azula will eventually see the light...
Following the Avatar thread, Jet. Should the Gaang have listened to Sokka?
Following the Avatar thread, Jet. Should the Gaang have listened to Sokka?
to:
** Despite some admittedly unrepentantly evil moments, even a somewhat unsympathetic interpretation of Azula's Azula’s character gives a somewhat rather optimistic number, owing to Azula's her age and gender sex, and the series' series’ idealistic mindset in general. If there's ever Had there been a post-finale special or even a fourth season, season instead of a SequelSeries with an all-new cast [[WesternAnimation/TheLastAirbenderTheLegendOfKorra set decades later]], chances range ranged from just above 50/50 to actually pretty good that Azula will would eventually see have seen the light...
Following the Avatar thread,light.
Jet. Should the Gaang have listened to Sokka?
Following the Avatar thread,
Jet. Should the Gaang have listened to Sokka?
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* Gender: Male, 4
* Age: Teenager, 4
* Role: Freelancer, 4
* Asthetics: Attractive, 1
* Age: Teenager, 4
* Role: Freelancer, 4
* Asthetics: Attractive, 1
to:
* Gender: Male, Male. 4
* Age:Teenager, Teenager. 4
* Role:Freelancer, Freelancer. 4
* Asthetics:Attractive, Attractive. 1
* Age:
* Role:
* Asthetics:
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* Idealism of the Story: Very much so, 1
to:
* Idealism of the Story: Very much so, so. 1
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* And to follow up, just how likely is it that the saw the error of his ways?
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* And to follow up, just how likely is it that the he saw the error of his ways?
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* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Teenager, 5
* Age: Teenager, 5
to:
* Gender: Male, Male. 2
* Age:Teenager, Teenager. 5
* Age:
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* Asthetics: Attractive, 5
* Motivation: Well Intentioned Extremist, 4
* Characterization: I would say he has some sense of honor, 4
* Motivation: Well Intentioned Extremist, 4
* Characterization: I would say he has some sense of honor, 4
to:
* Asthetics: Attractive, Attractive. 5
* Motivation: Well IntentionedExtremist, Extremist. 4
* Characterization: I would say he has some sense ofhonor, honor. 4
* Motivation: Well Intentioned
* Characterization: I would say he has some sense of
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* Morality of the Story: The Good The Bad And The Evil, especially toward the end of season two, 4
to:
* Morality of the Story: The Good The Bad And The Evil, especially toward the end of season two, two. 4
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Let's do Ozai's angels and compare it with Zuko.
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Let's do Ozai's Ozai’s angels and compare it them with Zuko.
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* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: Teenager, 5.
* Role: QuirkyMinibossSquad, 3
* Asthetics: Cute, 5
* Age: Teenager, 5.
* Role: QuirkyMinibossSquad, 3
* Asthetics: Cute, 5
to:
* Gender: Female, Female. 4
* Age:Teenager, Teenager. 5.
* Role:QuirkyMinibossSquad, QuirkyMinibossSquad. 3
* Asthetics:Cute, Cute. 5
* Age:
* Role:
* Asthetics:
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* Contentness: Enjoying every minute. Well, this one shouldn't count, Ty Lee doesn't like doing the evil, she's mostly playing a game. 1
to:
* Contentness: Enjoying every minute. Well, this one shouldn't count, shouldn’t count; Ty Lee doesn't doesn’t like doing the evil, she's ''evil'', she’s mostly playing a game. 1
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* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: Teenager, 5.
* Role: QuirkyMinibossSquad, 3
* Asthetics: Attractive, 5
* Age: Teenager, 5.
* Role: QuirkyMinibossSquad, 3
* Asthetics: Attractive, 5
to:
* Gender: Female, Female. 4
* Age:Teenager, Teenager. 5.
* Role:QuirkyMinibossSquad, QuirkyMinibossSquad. 3
* Asthetics:Attractive, Attractive. 5
* Age:
* Role:
* Asthetics:
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** So she is the most likely of the angels to become good. [[spoiler: So if you were surprised when the bored Mai acted on her own for the first time to save Zuko, you shouldn't have been.]]
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** So she is the most likely of the angels to become good. [[spoiler: So if you were surprised when the bored Mai acted on her own for the first time to save Zuko, you shouldn't shouldn’t have been.]]
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* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Teenager, 5.
* Role: ArrogantKungFuGuy, 5
* Asthetics: Fangirls will scream EvilIsSexy, but if you ask him, RedRightHand, so 2.
* Motivation: OK, this one is too easy. [[WellDoneSonGuy You could be the trope namer for this, Zuko]]. 5
* Characterization: Not only he has some EvilVirtues, he is completely lost. 4.5.
* Contentness: Angst, angst, angst... Sometimes Zuko would deserve 10, but the highest is 5.
* Age: Teenager, 5.
* Role: ArrogantKungFuGuy, 5
* Asthetics: Fangirls will scream EvilIsSexy, but if you ask him, RedRightHand, so 2.
* Motivation: OK, this one is too easy. [[WellDoneSonGuy You could be the trope namer for this, Zuko]]. 5
* Characterization: Not only he has some EvilVirtues, he is completely lost. 4.5.
* Contentness: Angst, angst, angst... Sometimes Zuko would deserve 10, but the highest is 5.
to:
* Gender: Male, Male. 2
* Age:Teenager, 5.
Teenager. 5
* Role:ArrogantKungFuGuy, ArrogantKungFuGuy. 5
* Asthetics: Fangirls will scream EvilIsSexy, but if you ask him, RedRightHand, so2.
2
* Motivation: OK, this one is too easy. [[WellDoneSonGuy You could be the trope namer for this,Zuko]]. Zuko.]] 5
* Characterization: Not only does hehas have some EvilVirtues, he is completely lost. 4.5.
5
* Contentness: Angst, angst, angst... SometimesZuko he would deserve 10, but the highest is 5.
* Age:
* Role:
* Asthetics: Fangirls will scream EvilIsSexy, but if you ask him, RedRightHand, so
* Motivation: OK, this one is too easy. [[WellDoneSonGuy You could be the trope namer for this,
* Characterization: Not only does he
* Contentness: Angst, angst, angst... Sometimes
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** OK, so at first I thought ATLA subverted the algorithm because Zuko is a boy with a deforming scar and Azula is an attractive girl. But even taking that into account, Zuko was the most likely to have an Heel Face Turn.
Just for the lulz, let's see how likely it is that Ozai's time in prison will help him see the light:
Just for the lulz, let's see how likely it is that Ozai's time in prison will help him see the light:
to:
** OK, so at first I thought ATLA the show subverted the algorithm because Zuko is a boy with a deforming scar and Azula is an attractive girl. But even taking that into account, Zuko was the most more likely to have an Heel Face a Heel-Face Turn.
Just for the lulz,let's let’s see how likely it is that Ozai's Ozai’s time in prison will help him see the light:
Just for the lulz,
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* Motivation: He's a CompleteMonster, but he has shades of being a SocialDarwinist. Let's call it 1.5.
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* Motivation: He's He’s a CompleteMonster, but he has shades of being a SocialDarwinist. Let's Let’s call it 1.5.
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* 22.5/9 = 2.5. So there's not quite a 50/50 chance that he will. It's unlikely he's learning anything.
Perhaps I shouldn't... but what will become of Sasuke? Most expect him to be brought back by {{Naruto}}, yet many yearn to see him die as a villain deserves.
* Species: Despite the sentient frogs, human is the standard, I'll leave this out.
Perhaps I shouldn't... but what will become of Sasuke? Most expect him to be brought back by {{Naruto}}, yet many yearn to see him die as a villain deserves.
* Species: Despite the sentient frogs, human is the standard, I'll leave this out.
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* 22.5/9 = 2.5. So there's there’s not quite a 50/50 chance that he will. It's will, and that entirely because of the tone of the story and his good looks, rather than anything to do with his character. It’s unlikely he's he’s learning anything.
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''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': What will become of Sasuke? Most expect him to be brought back by{{Naruto}}, Naruto, yet many yearn to see him die as a villain deserves.
* Species: Despite the sentient frogs, human is thestandard, I'll standard. I’ll leave this out.
''Manga/{{Naruto}}'': What will become of Sasuke? Most expect him to be brought back by
* Species: Despite the sentient frogs, human is the
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* Age: He turned as a child, but now he is a teenager, 5
* Role: Freelancer, rival turned evil: 5
* Aesthetics: Sasuke is one cute teenie, isn't he?: 5
* Motivation: By now he nearly is WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: 3
* Characterization: Stupid... uhm, lost and confused: 5
* Contentness: Life is hard, 4
* Morality: The good, Naruto and co., the bad, Team Hawk and the evil, Akatsuki: 4
* Naruto is very idealistic, 5
* 38:9=4.2. He's coming back, believe it.
* UPDATE: [[spoiler:If Chapter 627 is anything to go by, he came back. The reunion of Team 7 four chapters later puts the icing on the cake.]]
Another Naruto character, since there is now a theory on the WMG page that Kisame will turn face. Let's see how this measures up.
* Species: Hardly looks human at all, and he's said in terms of power to be like "A tailed beast, without the tails." I'd say he's inhuman. 1.
* Role: Freelancer, rival turned evil: 5
* Aesthetics: Sasuke is one cute teenie, isn't he?: 5
* Motivation: By now he nearly is WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: 3
* Characterization: Stupid... uhm, lost and confused: 5
* Contentness: Life is hard, 4
* Morality: The good, Naruto and co., the bad, Team Hawk and the evil, Akatsuki: 4
* Naruto is very idealistic, 5
* 38:9=4.2. He's coming back, believe it.
* UPDATE: [[spoiler:If Chapter 627 is anything to go by, he came back. The reunion of Team 7 four chapters later puts the icing on the cake.]]
Another Naruto character, since there is now a theory on the WMG page that Kisame will turn face. Let's see how this measures up.
* Species: Hardly looks human at all, and he's said in terms of power to be like "A tailed beast, without the tails." I'd say he's inhuman. 1.
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* Age: He turned as a child, but now he is a teenager, teenager. 5
* Role: Freelancer, rival turnedevil: evil. 5
* Aesthetics: Sasuke is one cute teenie, isn'the?: he? 5
* Motivation: By now he nearly isWoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds. 3
* Characterization: Stupid... uhm, lost andconfused: confused. 5
* Contentness: Life ishard, hard. 4
* Morality: The good, Naruto and co., the bad, TeamHawk Hawk, and the evil, Akatsuki: Akatsuki. 4
* Naruto is veryidealistic, idealistic. 5
* 38:9=4.2.He's He’s coming back, believe it.
* UPDATE: [[spoiler:If Chapter 627 is anything to go by, hecame comes back. The reunion of Team 7 four chapters later puts the icing on the cake.]]
AnotherNaruto ''Naruto'' character, since there is now a theory on the WMG page that Kisame will turn face. Let's Let’s see how this measures up.
* Species: Hardly looks human at all, andhe's he’s said in terms of power to be like "A “A tailed beast, without the tails." I'd ” I’d say he's he’s inhuman. 1.
* Role: Freelancer, rival turned
* Aesthetics: Sasuke is one cute teenie, isn't
* Motivation: By now he nearly is
* Characterization: Stupid... uhm, lost and
* Contentness: Life is
* Morality: The good, Naruto and co., the bad, Team
* Naruto is very
* 38:9=4.2.
* UPDATE: [[spoiler:If Chapter 627 is anything to go by, he
Another
* Species: Hardly looks human at all, and
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* Role: One of Madara's two [[TheDragon dragons]]. 4.
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* Role: One of Madara's Madara’s two [[TheDragon dragons]]. 4.
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* Motivation: He's a BloodKnight, so I'd say his motivation is somewhere between ForTheEvulz and hubris. 2.
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* Motivation: He's He’s a BloodKnight, so I'd I’d say his motivation is somewhere between ForTheEvulz and hubris. 2.
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Naruto character number [[RuleOfThree three]], we'll check out Tobi[[spoiler: /Obito's]] Heel/Face.
* Species: Irrelevant
* Species: Irrelevant
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Naruto character number [[RuleOfThree three]], we'll we’ll check out Tobi[[spoiler: /Obito's]] Tobi[[spoiler:/Obito]]’s Heel/Face.
* Species:IrrelevantIrrelevant.
* Species:
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* Aesthetics: If it weren't for his scars, he'd be attractive, so I'll give him a 4.
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* Aesthetics: If it weren't weren’t for his scars, he'd he’d be attractive, so I'll I’ll give him a 4.
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** Score: 25/9 = 2.777. Slightly under 50/50. Don't expect this to happen, but don't call it an AssPull if it does.
Now for an updated version of Obito, let's see how likely he will turn good.
Now for an updated version of Obito, let's see how likely he will turn good.
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** Score: 25/9 = 2.777. Slightly under 50/50. Don't Don’t expect this to happen, but don't don’t call it an AssPull if it does.
Now for an updated version ofObito, let's the character, let’s see how likely he will turn good.
Now for an updated version of
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How about fan-favorites Grimmjow Jaegerjaques and Ulquiorra Cifer from ''Manga/{{Bleach}}''? Assuming Grimmjow's LongBusTrip ends and Ulquiorra comes BackFromTheDead, that is.
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How about fan-favorites GrimmjowJaegerjaques Jaegerjaquez and Ulquiorra Cifer from ''Manga/{{Bleach}}''? Assuming Grimmjow's Grimmjow’s LongBusTrip ends and Ulquiorra comes BackFromTheDead, that is.
How about fan-favorites Grimmjow
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* Species: Arrancar. Since they're pretty human-like and since the released form varies, let's go with 2.
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* Species: Arrancar. Since they're they’re pretty human-like and since the released form varies, let's go with 2.
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* Age: Real age is unknown, but physically he's a young adult. 4.
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* Age: Real age is unknown, but physically he's he’s a young adult. 4.
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* Age: His backstory implies he's decades, possibly ''centuries'' old, but physically he looks to be in his late teens or early twenties. 4.
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* Age: His backstory implies he's he’s decades, possibly ''centuries'' old, but physically he looks to be in his late teens or early twenties. 4.
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* Motivation: NietzscheWannabe, but his backstory has the possible implication that he's DesperatelyLookingForAPurposeInLife. So 3 or 4, depending on your interpretation.
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* Motivation: NietzscheWannabe, but his backstory has the possible implication that he's he’s DesperatelyLookingForAPurposeInLife. So 3 or 4, depending on your interpretation.
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* Contentness: Doesn't really seem to care, though he leans a little towards "life is hopeless and empty". 3.5.
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* Contentness: Doesn't Doesn’t really seem to care, though he leans a little towards "life “life is hopeless and empty". empty.” 3.5.
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So if they ever come back, they both have about a 55% chance of {{Heel Face Turn}}ing, with Ulquiorra having slightly higher odds that would likely change depending on Orihime's reaction to his return. [[DarkerAndEdgier With the way the manga's going, however]], they'll probably switch sides anyway [[EnemyMine for a better chance at survival]].
Just for laughs, let's do Ulquiorra and Grimmjow's boss, Aizen, shall we?
Just for laughs, let's do Ulquiorra and Grimmjow's boss, Aizen, shall we?
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So if they ever come back, they both have about a 55% chance of {{Heel Face Turn}}ing, with Ulquiorra having slightly higher odds that would likely change depending on Orihime's Orihime’s reaction to his return. [[DarkerAndEdgier With the way the manga's manga’s going, however]], they'll they’ll probably switch sides anyway [[EnemyMine for a better chance at survival]].
Just for laughs,let's let’s do Ulquiorra and Grimmjow's boss, Aizen, shall we?
Just for laughs,
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* Role: ''The'' BigBad, up until recently. 1.
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* Role: ''The'' BigBad, up until recently.BigBad for a long stretch. 1.
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* Motivation: He ''says'' he's doing this for a better future, but he really just has [[AGodAmI a god complex]], so. 1.
* Characterization: VillainSue who loves [[MindRape screwing with people's heads]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe doesn't care about anyone but himself.]] 1.
* Characterization: VillainSue who loves [[MindRape screwing with people's heads]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe doesn't care about anyone but himself.]] 1.
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* Motivation: He ''says'' he's he’s doing this for a better future, but he really just has [[AGodAmI a god complex]], so. so 1.
* Characterization: VillainSue who loves [[MindRape screwing withpeople's people’s heads]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe doesn't doesn’t care about anyone but himself.]] 1.
* Characterization: VillainSue who loves [[MindRape screwing with
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Now, Topher from ''{{Series/Dollhouse}}''. A tough one. Joss Whedon loves to play with morality on the series. Topher has been stated, in-show, to ''have'' no morals, yet given the events of "Belonging" it's clear something's going to snap.
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Now, Topher from ''{{Series/Dollhouse}}''. A tough one. Joss Whedon loves to play with morality on the series. Topher has been stated, in-show, to ''have'' no morals, yet given the events of"Belonging" it's “Belonging” it’s clear something's something’s going to snap.give.
Now, Topher from ''{{Series/Dollhouse}}''. A tough one. Joss Whedon loves to play with morality on the series. Topher has been stated, in-show, to ''have'' no morals, yet given the events of
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* Age: Adult but extremely immature; we'll split the difference and say young adult - 3.
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* Age: Adult but extremely immature; we'll we’ll split the difference and say young adult - 3.
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* Asthetics: Sort of geeky-cute - 3 or 4. We'll go with 4.
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* Asthetics: Sort of geeky-cute - 3 or 4. We'll We’ll go with 4.
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* Characterization: At the start, 2, but showed a need for people to like and accept his work. As of "Belonging", he's realising the implications of his work, pushing him right over into "lost and confused" - 5.
* Contentness: At the start, he was lost in the science and in his cool toys, so 1. Now he's been faced with the amorality of some of the upper echelon, he's thought seriously for the first time about what he actually does - 4.
* Morality: {{Black and Grey Morality}}, shading into {{Grey and Gray Morality}} at times. It's a Whedon show; it might change at any time. Right now we're at 3.
* Idealism: It exists,but it usually comes up short against reality - 2.
** 30/9 = 3.3. This is where it breaks down. He could change at any time during the series, but he's very definitely on ''[=DeWitt's=]'' side, and that particular loyalty is not in question. The only question is if ''she'' decides to go against her bosses.
* Contentness: At the start, he was lost in the science and in his cool toys, so 1. Now he's been faced with the amorality of some of the upper echelon, he's thought seriously for the first time about what he actually does - 4.
* Morality: {{Black and Grey Morality}}, shading into {{Grey and Gray Morality}} at times. It's a Whedon show; it might change at any time. Right now we're at 3.
* Idealism: It exists,but it usually comes up short against reality - 2.
** 30/9 = 3.3. This is where it breaks down. He could change at any time during the series, but he's very definitely on ''[=DeWitt's=]'' side, and that particular loyalty is not in question. The only question is if ''she'' decides to go against her bosses.
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* Characterization: At the start, 2, but showed a need for people to like and accept his work. As of "Belonging", he's “Belonging”, he’s realising the implications of his work, pushing him right over into "lost “lost and confused" confused” - 5.
* Contentness: At the start, he was lost in the science and in his cool toys, so 1. Nowhe's that he’s been faced with the amorality of some of the upper echelon, he's he’s thought seriously for the first time about what he actually does - 4.
* Morality: {{Black and Grey Morality}}, shading into {{Grey and Gray Morality}} at times.It's It’s a Whedon show; it might change at any time. Right now we're we’re at 3.
* Idealism: Itexists,but exists, but it usually comes up short against reality - 2.
** 30/9 = 3.3. This is where it breaks down. He could change at any time during the series, buthe's he’s very definitely on ''[=DeWitt's=]'' ''[=DeWitt=]’s'' side, and that particular loyalty is not in question. The only question is if ''she'' decides to go against her bosses.
* Contentness: At the start, he was lost in the science and in his cool toys, so 1. Now
* Morality: {{Black and Grey Morality}}, shading into {{Grey and Gray Morality}} at times.
* Idealism: It
** 30/9 = 3.3. This is where it breaks down. He could change at any time during the series, but
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Let's see how much of a monster Johan Liebert from ''Manga/{{Monster}}'' really is by showing how likely he is to go good.
* Species: Human - 3
* Species: Human - 3
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Let’s see how much of a monster the eponymous Johan Liebert
* Species:
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* Aesthetics: He can easily pass for his attractive sister whenever he crossdresses. Even without being crossdressed, he looks pretty handsome already - 5
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* Aesthetics: He can easily pass for his attractive sister whenever he crossdresses. Even without being crossdressed, crossdressing, he looks pretty handsome already - 5
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** 30/10 = 3. Hmmmm. For a CompleteMonster, that's pretty high. He could go either way at this point. It's all a matter of Dr. Tenma's idealism being able to completely influence him for the better.
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** 30/10 27/9 = 3. Hmmmm. For a CompleteMonster, that's that’s pretty high. He could go either way at this point. It's It’s all a matter of Dr. Tenma's Tenma’s idealism being able to completely influence him for the better.
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** Total: 36.5/10 = 3.65. There's a decent chance she may turn once more of her character background is revealed (which, according to WordOfGod, will happen in Ben 10: Ultimate Alien.) She's definitely not as evil as Kevin was, and he turned face (of course, alot of reasoning behind his turn [[NotAsYouKnowThem ignores his previous characterization entirely.]])
*** Update: [[spoiler: It happened, then later it was undone, then the undoing was undone and she's moved back toward turning to the good side. Yeah, [[FaceHeelRevolvingDoor it's one of those cases]].]]
*** Update: [[spoiler: It happened, then later it was undone, then the undoing was undone and she's moved back toward turning to the good side. Yeah, [[FaceHeelRevolvingDoor it's one of those cases]].]]
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** Total: 36.5/10 = 3.65. There's There’s a decent chance she may turn once more of her character background is revealed (which, according to WordOfGod, will happen in Ben ''Ben 10: Ultimate Alien.Alien''.) She's She’s definitely not as evil as Kevin was, and he turned face (of course, alot a lot of the reasoning behind his turn [[NotAsYouKnowThem ignores his previous characterization entirely.altogether.]])
*** Update: [[spoiler: It happened, then later it was undone, then the undoing was undone andshe's she’s moved back toward turning to the good side. Yeah, [[FaceHeelRevolvingDoor it's it’s one of those cases]].]]
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*** Update: [[spoiler: It happened, then later it was undone, then the undoing was undone and
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* Characterization: He's rather arrogant, though not in a hot-headed way, and the "playing with dangerous stuff" definitely qualifies if you take that [[ArtifactOfDoom Crimson Behelit]] into consideration. - 4
* Contentness: And here's where things get tricky. When we first meet Griffith, he's doing well, which would net him about a 2 result. Then Guts leaves him, he has sex with the princess and gets put to the torture for a year, and he gets pushed past the DespairEventHorizon when he finds out about Guts and Casca's relationship, which brings him to about the 5 mark near the end.
* Morality of the Story: [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] all the way. - 5
* Cynicism of the Story: And pretty far on the cynical end of the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism Sliding Scale]] to boot. - 5
* Contentness: And here's where things get tricky. When we first meet Griffith, he's doing well, which would net him about a 2 result. Then Guts leaves him, he has sex with the princess and gets put to the torture for a year, and he gets pushed past the DespairEventHorizon when he finds out about Guts and Casca's relationship, which brings him to about the 5 mark near the end.
* Morality of the Story: [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] all the way. - 5
* Cynicism of the Story: And pretty far on the cynical end of the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism Sliding Scale]] to boot. - 5
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* Characterization: He's He’s rather arrogant, though not in a hot-headed way, and the "playing “playing with dangerous stuff" stuff” definitely qualifies if you take that [[ArtifactOfDoom Crimson Behelit]] into consideration. consideration - 4
* Contentness: Andhere's here’s where things get tricky. When we first meet Griffith, he's he’s doing well, which would net him about a 2 result. Then Guts leaves him, he has sex with the princess and gets put to the torture for a year, and he gets pushed past the DespairEventHorizon when he finds out about Guts and Casca's Casca’s relationship, which brings him to about the 5 mark near the end.
* Morality of the Story: [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] all theway. way - 5
* Cynicism of the Story: And pretty far on the cynical end of the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism Sliding Scale]] toboot. boot - 5
* Contentness: And
* Morality of the Story: [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] all the
* Cynicism of the Story: And pretty far on the cynical end of the [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism Sliding Scale]] to
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Now, can he ever redeem himself
* Species: He's now a member of the God Hand, which are pretty much the DemonLordsAndArchdevils - 1
* Species: He's now a member of the God Hand, which are pretty much the DemonLordsAndArchdevils - 1
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Now, can he ever redeem himself
himself:
* Species:He's He’s now a member of the God Hand, which are pretty much the DemonLordsAndArchdevils - 1
* Species:
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* Motivation for doing evil: He's a CompleteMonster - 1
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* Motivation for doing evil: He's He’s a CompleteMonster - 1
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* Contentness: He's doing well - 2
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* Contentness: He's He’s doing well - 2
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** Total: 17/10 = '''1.7'''. Nope, Griffith isn't going to be redeemed at all. He's frozen his heart in favor of his own selfish desires.
Now let's see how close [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Guts]] himself was to becoming [[VillainProtagonist just like those he fights]]...
Now let's see how close [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Guts]] himself was to becoming [[VillainProtagonist just like those he fights]]...
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** Total: 17/10 = '''1.7'''. Nope, Griffith isn't isn’t going to be redeemed at all. He's He’s frozen his heart in favor of his own selfish desires.
Nowlet's let’s see how close [[HeWhoFightsMonsters Guts]] himself was to becoming [[VillainProtagonist just like those he fights]]...
Now
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* Aesthetics: Overall, he's pretty handsome - 1
* Motivation: At his worst, he was driven purely by revenge, and really didn't give a damn about others - 5
* Motivation: At his worst, he was driven purely by revenge, and really didn't give a damn about others - 5
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* Aesthetics: Overall, he's he’s pretty handsome - 1
* Motivation: At his worst, he was driven purely by revenge, and reallydidn't didn’t give a damn about others - 5
* Motivation: At his worst, he was driven purely by revenge, and really
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** Total score: 35/10 = '''3.5'''. So he wasn't quite as bad as Griffith, but it's still good that he [[WhatTheHellHero woke up]] when he did...
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** Total score: 35/10 = '''3.5'''. So he wasn't wasn’t quite as bad as Griffith, but it's it’s still good that he [[WhatTheHellHero woke up]] when he did...
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** Total score: 31/10 = '''3.1'''. OK. So it's an improvement, but things are still tense. The battle with the Inner Beast could really go either way at this point...
As of Episode 24, one of the plot points in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAge Gundam AGE]]'' is that someone in Flit Asuno's crew is a Vagan spy. Surely [[NumberTwo his right-hand man Frederick Algreus]] isn't a Vagan... is he? Let's find out.
* Species: Contrary to what the FanDumb wants you to believe, everyone in this series is human. 3.
As of Episode 24, one of the plot points in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAge Gundam AGE]]'' is that someone in Flit Asuno's crew is a Vagan spy. Surely [[NumberTwo his right-hand man Frederick Algreus]] isn't a Vagan... is he? Let's find out.
* Species: Contrary to what the FanDumb wants you to believe, everyone in this series is human. 3.
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** Total score: 31/10 = '''3.1'''. OK. So it's it’s an improvement, but things are still tense. The battle with the Inner Beast could really go either way at this point...
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As of Episode 24, one of the plot points in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAge Gundam AGE]]'' is that someone in FlitAsuno's Asuno’s crew is a Vagan spy. Surely [[NumberTwo his right-hand man Frederick Algreus]] isn't a Vagan... is he? Let's Let’s find out.
* Species: Contrary to what the FanDumb wants you to believe, everyone in this series is human. 3.
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As of Episode 24, one of the plot points in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAge Gundam AGE]]'' is that someone in Flit
* Species: Contrary to what the FanDumb wants you to believe, everyone in this series is human.
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* Age: Young Adult. Definitely younger than Flit Asuno who's more Middle-Aged. 5.
* Role: He's currently the strategist for the Earth Federal Forces. He's also the right-hand man for Flit Asuno, so he's a 5.
* Role: He's currently the strategist for the Earth Federal Forces. He's also the right-hand man for Flit Asuno, so he's a 5.
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* Age: Young Adult. Definitely younger than Flit Asuno who's who’s more Middle-Aged.middle-aged. 5.
* Role:He's He’s currently the strategist for the Earth Federal Forces. He's He’s also the right-hand man for Flit Asuno, so he's he’s a 5.
* Role:
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* Motivation: What's his reasoning for fighting against Vagan again? 5.
* Character: He certainly isn't an arrogant, bitter guy. Let's say a 2.
* Contentness: He doesn't seem to hate his position in the Earth Federal Forces. It's a 3 in my book.
* Character: He certainly isn't an arrogant, bitter guy. Let's say a 2.
* Contentness: He doesn't seem to hate his position in the Earth Federal Forces. It's a 3 in my book.
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* Motivation: What's What’s his reasoning for fighting against Vagan again? 5.
* Character: He certainlyisn't isn’t an arrogant, bitter guy. Let's say a 2.
* Contentness: Hedoesn't doesn’t seem to hate his position in the Earth Federal Forces. It's a 3 in my book.
* Character: He certainly
* Contentness: He
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* Idealism: Despite the [[ArtStyleDissonance kiddy art style]], ''AGE'' rivals the Universal Century when it come to idealism. 5.
Result: 38/10: 3.8. Well, [[JustForPun looks like someone prefers tofu over meat.]] [[SincerityMode In all seriousness,]] Flit better watch his back, because Frederick is going to show his true colors ''very soon.''
* Update: [[spoiler:Now that was unexpected. Turns out he's NOT the Vagan spy after all.]]
The {{Big Bad}}s from the first two seasons of ''Veronica Mars'' (beware spoilers).
'''Aaron Echolls.'''
* '''Species:''' Irrelevant, given it's an all human show.
Result: 38/10: 3.8. Well, [[JustForPun looks like someone prefers tofu over meat.]] [[SincerityMode In all seriousness,]] Flit better watch his back, because Frederick is going to show his true colors ''very soon.''
* Update: [[spoiler:Now that was unexpected. Turns out he's NOT the Vagan spy after all.]]
The {{Big Bad}}s from the first two seasons of ''Veronica Mars'' (beware spoilers).
'''Aaron Echolls.'''
* '''Species:''' Irrelevant, given it's an all human show.
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* Idealism: Despite the [[ArtStyleDissonance kiddy art style]], ''AGE'' rivals the Universal Century when it come comes to idealism.cynicism. 5.
Result:38/10: 35/9 = 3.8.9. Well, [[JustForPun looks like someone prefers tofu over meat.]] [[SincerityMode In all seriousness,]] Flit better watch his back, because Frederick is going to show his true colors ''very soon.''
* Update: [[spoiler:Now that was unexpected. Turns outhe's he’s NOT the Vagan spy after all.]]
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The {{Big Bad}}s from the first two seasons of''Veronica Mars'' ''Series/VeronicaMars'' (beware spoilers).
'''AaronEcholls.'''
Echolls'''
* '''Species:''' Irrelevant, givenit's it’s an all human all-human show.
Result:
* Update: [[spoiler:Now that was unexpected. Turns out
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The {{Big Bad}}s from the first two seasons of
'''Aaron
* '''Species:''' Irrelevant, given
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* '''Motivation:''' Gah, complicated. Beats Logan because he's a nutjob. Kills Lilly to keep sleeping with her secret. Does other things to get away with killing Lilly. I'll go with 2.
* '''Characterization:''' *shrug* Once we find out he killed Lilly, he goes pretty flat character... but he had some PetTheDog moments before. He's pretty bats*** crazy, so I'll go with 2.
* '''Characterization:''' *shrug* Once we find out he killed Lilly, he goes pretty flat character... but he had some PetTheDog moments before. He's pretty bats*** crazy, so I'll go with 2.
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* '''Motivation:''' Gah, complicated. Beats Logan because he's he’s a nutjob. Kills Lilly to keep sleeping with her secret. Does other things to get away with killing Lilly. I'll I’ll go with 2.
* '''Characterization:''' *shrug* Once we find out he killed Lilly, hegoes becomes a pretty flat character... but he had some PetTheDog moments before. He's He’s pretty bats*** crazy, so I'll I’ll go with 2.
* '''Characterization:''' *shrug* Once we find out he killed Lilly, he
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18.5/9 = 2. Not really gonna happen. (Well, he's dead, so...)
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18.5/9 = 2. Not really gonna happen. (Well, he's he’s dead, so...)
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* '''Aesthetics:''' YMMV. I found him pretty EvilIsSexy, but not everyone would have. But I'll go with 4 anyway.
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* '''Aesthetics:''' YMMV. I found him pretty EvilIsSexy, but not everyone would have. But I'll I’ll go with 4 anyway.
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* '''Characterization:''' ...GAH I HATE YOU. He seemed pretty ObviouslyEvil up on the roof (1), but cold blooded (3) might fit better. He's bats*** crazy (2), but due to FreudianExcuse, gets considered "lost and confused" a lot (5). Especially just before he jumped. Averages say 2.
* '''Contentment:''' Given he kills himself in the end, he wasn't having it easy. (5)
* '''Contentment:''' Given he kills himself in the end, he wasn't having it easy. (5)
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* '''Characterization:''' ...GAH I HATE YOU. He seemed pretty ObviouslyEvil up on the roof (1), but cold blooded cold-blooded (3) might fit better. He's bats*** crazy (2), but due to FreudianExcuse, gets considered "lost “lost and confused" confused” a lot (5). Especially just before he jumped. Averages say 2.
* '''Contentment:''' Given he kills himself in the end, hewasn't wasn’t having it easy. (5)
* '''Contentment:''' Given he kills himself in the end, he
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23.5/9 = 2.6. Unlikely. (And he's also dead, so I'm not sure these had that much of a point...)
[[VideoGame/JakAndDaxter Count Veger]]
Let's see if [[{{albino-ottsel}} ThisTroper]]'s gift of [[DracoInLeatherPants cowhide trousers]] is completely unjustified...
* Species: "[[HumanAlien Human]]" (3)
[[VideoGame/JakAndDaxter Count Veger]]
Let's see if [[{{albino-ottsel}} ThisTroper]]'s gift of [[DracoInLeatherPants cowhide trousers]] is completely unjustified...
* Species: "[[HumanAlien Human]]" (3)
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23.5/9 = 2.6. Unlikely. (And he's he’s also dead, so I'm I’m not sure these had that much of a point...)
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''VideoGame/JakAndDaxter'': CountVeger]]
Veger.
Let's see if[[{{albino-ottsel}} ThisTroper]]'s the fans’ gift of [[DracoInLeatherPants cowhide trousers]] is completely unjustified...
* Species:"[[HumanAlien Human]]" “[[HumanAlien Human]]” (3)
''VideoGame/JakAndDaxter'': Count
Let's see if
* Species:
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* Role: Some consider him a BigBad, others would say he's an Opportunist, so either a (1) or a (2)
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* Role: Some consider him a BigBad, others would say he's he’s an Opportunist, so either a (1) or a (2)
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* Contentness: [[AllThereInTheManual The strategy guide]] said he was generally unhappy, so we'll say "life is hard" (4)
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* Contentness: [[AllThereInTheManual The strategy guide]] said he was generally unhappy, so we'll say "life “life is hard" hard” (4)
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* Age: Tough call. He started out as a CreepyChild (2), but then he starts looking older, closer to teenage (5), hmm. Let's go 3.5
* Role: Seemed to be the BigBad for a while, but it's pretty clear he's always been TheDragon (4)
* Aesthetics: The GlamourFailure with his body might cause him problems (2), but, depending on your mileage he either doesn't have any outstanding features, possesses unnatural looks (4) or is conventionally attractive (5). Eh, let's say 3.5 again.
* Role: Seemed to be the BigBad for a while, but it's pretty clear he's always been TheDragon (4)
* Aesthetics: The GlamourFailure with his body might cause him problems (2), but, depending on your mileage he either doesn't have any outstanding features, possesses unnatural looks (4) or is conventionally attractive (5). Eh, let's say 3.5 again.
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* Age: Tough call. He started out as a CreepyChild (2), but then he starts looking older, closer to teenage (5), hmm. Let's Let’s go 3.5
* Role: Seemed to be the BigBad for a while, butit's it’s pretty clear he's he’s always been TheDragon (4)
* Aesthetics: The GlamourFailure with his body might cause him problems (2), but, depending on your mileage he eitherdoesn't doesn’t have any outstanding features, possesses unnatural looks (4) or is conventionally attractive (5). Eh, let's let’s say 3.5 again.
* Role: Seemed to be the BigBad for a while, but
* Aesthetics: The GlamourFailure with his body might cause him problems (2), but, depending on your mileage he either
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* Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality (3). Except it's also got TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil (4). And there are almost no truly evil characters (barring Tsukiyomi and possibly some others), so RousseauWasRight (5). Well, that averages to (4)
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* Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality (3). Except it's it’s also got TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil (4). And there are almost no truly evil characters (barring Tsukiyomi and possibly some others), so RousseauWasRight (5). Well, that averages to (4)
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* '''Total:''' 36/10 or 37/10 = 3.6 or 3.7. Quite likely, really. [[spoiler: The fact that Negi wants to make like Nanoha only improves his chances]]
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* '''Total:''' 36/10 or 37/10 = 3.6 or 3.7. Quite likely, really. [[spoiler: The fact that Negi wants to make like Nanoha only improves his chances]]
chances.]]
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* Characterisation: They haven't had much, but they're not evil or crazy. It's hard to say they're [[RoundedCharacter Rounded Characters]] but they are pretty lost and confused, even if they try to act like [[NobleDemon Noble Demons]] (4.5)
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* Characterisation: They haven't haven’t had much, but they're they’re not evil or nor crazy. It's It’s hard to say they're [[RoundedCharacter Rounded Characters]] they’re {{Rounded Character}}s but they are pretty lost and confused, even if they try to act like [[NobleDemon Noble Demons]] {{Noble Demon}}s (4.5)
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* '''Total:''' 43.5/10 = 4.35. Practically certain. [[spoiler: It's already started...]]
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* '''Total:''' 43.5/10 = 4.35. Practically certain. [[spoiler: It's It’s already started...]]
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* Aesthetics: The fact that we don't know what this guy looks like automatically invokes (2).
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* Aesthetics: The fact that we don't don’t know what this guy looks like automatically invokes (2).
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* Characterization: So far, hasn't shown much in the way of mercy, but is definitely not insane, so (3)
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* Characterization: So far, hasn't hasn’t shown much in the way of mercy, but is definitely not insane, so (3)
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And finally, the only known evil person Tsukiyomi:
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And finally, the only known evil person member, Tsukiyomi:
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* Characterization: She's well crazy but this seems to have been something that developed over time... let's go with (1.5)
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* Characterization: She's She’s well crazy but this seems to have been something that developed over time... let's let’s go with (1.5)
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* '''Total:''' 31.5/10 = 3.15. The least likely in the group, but not impossible especially if she has a FreudianExcuse or VillainousBreakdown
Let's see if we can figure out whether Agent Washington of Machinima/RedVsBlue has gone bad:
Let's see if we can figure out whether Agent Washington of Machinima/RedVsBlue has gone bad:
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* '''Total:''' 31.5/10 = 3.15. The least likely in the group, but not impossible especially if she has a FreudianExcuse or VillainousBreakdown
Let'sVillainousBreakdown.
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Let’s see if we can figure out whether Agent Washington ofMachinima/RedVsBlue ''Machinima/RedVsBlue'' has gone bad:
Let's
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Let’s see if we can figure out whether Agent Washington of
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* Appearance: Well, they're all wearing the same sort of PoweredArmor, but Wash's does have that yellow stripe to indicate his Freelancer status, which could be a mark toward Predatory. ...Say 3.5.
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* Appearance: Well, they're all wearing the same sort of PoweredArmor, but Wash's Wash’s does have that yellow stripe to indicate his Freelancer status, which could be a mark toward Predatory. ...Say 3.5.
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OK... I've decided the thoroughly evil [[VideoGame/MassEffect2 Morinth]] is optimal for breaking this thing. Let's see what the algorithm says of her odds of deciding to quit [[MindRape mind raping]] and murdering innocents are.
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''VideoGame/MassEffect'': OK...I've I’ve decided the thoroughly evil [[VideoGame/MassEffect2 Morinth]] Morinth is optimal for breaking this thing. Let's Let’s see what the algorithm says of her odds of deciding to quit [[MindRape mind raping]] and murdering innocents are.
''VideoGame/MassEffect'': OK...
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* Characterization: although not a flat character, she clearly enjoys her acts of wanton cruelty: 2
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* Characterization: although Though not a flat character, she clearly enjoys her acts of wanton cruelty: 2
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* Morality of the story: Reapers and some criminals are evil, Shepard and a few others are good, plenty of gray room : 4
* Idealism of the story: complicated, depends on Shepard' actions: 3
Total score: 29/10 = '''2.9''' While not quite at 50/50, it's definately a high mark. Being [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe an asari]] helps her there. But her [[ForTheEvulz motivation]] and [[PsychoForHire characterization]] keep her from floating as high as I'd expected.
And now, from [[VideoGame/MassEffect2 the same game]], the odds of Legion going bad. Like Morinth, it was chosen for maximum scale-breaking, since its loyalty, assuming the appropriate mission is completed, is mostly not in doubt.
* Idealism of the story: complicated, depends on Shepard' actions: 3
Total score: 29/10 = '''2.9''' While not quite at 50/50, it's definately a high mark. Being [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe an asari]] helps her there. But her [[ForTheEvulz motivation]] and [[PsychoForHire characterization]] keep her from floating as high as I'd expected.
And now, from [[VideoGame/MassEffect2 the same game]], the odds of Legion going bad. Like Morinth, it was chosen for maximum scale-breaking, since its loyalty, assuming the appropriate mission is completed, is mostly not in doubt.
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* Morality of the story: Reapers and some criminals are evil, Shepard and a few others are good, plenty of gray room : room: 4
* Idealism of the story: complicated, depends onShepard' Shepard’s actions: 3
Total score: 29/10 = '''2.9''' While not quite at 50/50,it's it’s definately a high mark. Being [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe an asari]] helps her there. But her [[ForTheEvulz motivation]] and [[PsychoForHire characterization]] keep her from floating as high as I'd I’d expected.
And now, from[[VideoGame/MassEffect2 the same game]], game, the odds of Legion going bad. Like Morinth, it was chosen for maximum scale-breaking, since its loyalty, assuming the appropriate mission is completed, is mostly not in doubt.
* Idealism of the story: complicated, depends on
Total score: 29/10 = '''2.9''' While not quite at 50/50,
And now, from
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* Gender: It has none, despite often being called "he": N/A
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* Gender: It has none, despite often being called "he": N/A“he”: 1
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* Aesthetics: ''clearly'' inhuman, has a giant hole in its chest: 5
* Motivation: loyalty to Shepard: 2
* Characterization: rather alien, but mostly pleasant: 2
* Contentedness: hard to tell, but seems pleased with its existence: 2
* Motivation: loyalty to Shepard: 2
* Characterization: rather alien, but mostly pleasant: 2
* Contentedness: hard to tell, but seems pleased with its existence: 2
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* Aesthetics: ''clearly'' inhuman, has ''Clearly'' inhuman—has a giant hole in its chest: 5
* Motivation:loyalty Loyalty to Shepard: 2
* Characterization:rather Rather alien, but mostly pleasant: 2
* Contentedness:hard Hard to tell, but seems pleased with its existence: 2
* Motivation:
* Characterization:
* Contentedness:
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* Idealism of the story: complicated, depends on Shepard' actions: 3
Total score: 22/8[[note]]division by 8, not 10, due to removal of age and gender considerations[[/note]] = '''2.875'''. So evidently, it isn't likely to go Heretic on us any time soon. Though it's not impossible, if this algorithm is to be believed.
Let's take a look at Udina's turning Heel. The general reaction seemed to be "yeah, I knew he was an asshole, but I didn't expect him to do something like THAT!"
Total score: 22/8[[note]]division by 8, not 10, due to removal of age and gender considerations[[/note]] = '''2.875'''. So evidently, it isn't likely to go Heretic on us any time soon. Though it's not impossible, if this algorithm is to be believed.
Let's take a look at Udina's turning Heel. The general reaction seemed to be "yeah, I knew he was an asshole, but I didn't expect him to do something like THAT!"
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* Idealism of the story: complicated, Complicated, depends on Shepard' Shepard’s actions: 3
Total score:22/8[[note]]division by 8, not 10, due to removal of age and gender considerations[[/note]] 23/9 = '''2.875'''. 56''' So evidently, evidently it isn't isn’t likely to go Heretic on us any time soon. Though it's soon, though it’s not impossible, if this algorithm is to be believed.
Let's Let’s take a look at Udina's Udina’s turning Heel. The general reaction seemed to be "yeah, “yeah, I knew he was an asshole, but I didn't didn’t expect him to do something like THAT!"THAT!”
Total score:
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* Age: I'll go with middle - 3
* Role: He's a politician, so I'll say freelancer - 4
* Role: He's a politician, so I'll say freelancer - 4
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* Age: I'll I’ll go with middle - 3
* Role:He's He’s a politician, so I'll I’ll say freelancer - 4
* Role:
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* Morality: The Mass Effect series, especially in the second and third games, seems to be MoralityKitchenSink. Plenty of good, evil, and anywhere in between - 3
* Cynicism: I guess it depends on Shepard, but Mass Effect 3 still gets pretty grim regardless - 4
Total score: 35/10 = 3.5. So we shouldn't have been too surprised, but it wasn't excruciatingly obvious...
Jumping on the Creator/BioWare bandwagon, let's play with Dragon Age!
First: [[spoiler: Loghain]], who makes a FaceHeelTurn and has the potential to make a FaceHeelTurn right back.
* Cynicism: I guess it depends on Shepard, but Mass Effect 3 still gets pretty grim regardless - 4
Total score: 35/10 = 3.5. So we shouldn't have been too surprised, but it wasn't excruciatingly obvious...
Jumping on the Creator/BioWare bandwagon, let's play with Dragon Age!
First: [[spoiler: Loghain]], who makes a FaceHeelTurn and has the potential to make a FaceHeelTurn right back.
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* Morality: The Mass Effect ''Mass Effect'' series, especially in the second and third games, seems to be MoralityKitchenSink. Plenty of good, evil, and anywhere in between - 3
* Cynicism: I guess it depends on Shepard, butMass ''Mass Effect 3 3'' still gets pretty grim regardless - 4
Total score: 35/10 = 3.5. So weshouldn't shouldn’t have been too surprised, but it wasn't wasn’t excruciatingly obvious...
obvious.
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Jumping on the Creator/BioWare bandwagon,let's let’s play with Dragon Age!
''VideoGame/DragonAge''!
First: [[spoiler: Loghain]], who makes a FaceHeelTurn and has the potential to make aFaceHeelTurn HeelFaceTurn right back.
* Cynicism: I guess it depends on Shepard, but
Total score: 35/10 = 3.5. So we
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First: [[spoiler: Loghain]], who makes a FaceHeelTurn and has the potential to make a
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* Role: As an ally of the heroes, the king's commander. 5-ish. As a villain, he's the Big Bad of his arc but there's no way he can compete with a corrupted dragon god. 2?
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* Role: As an ally of the heroes, the king's king’s commander. 5-ish. As a villain, he's he’s the Big Bad of his arc but there's there’s no way he can compete with a corrupted dragon god. 2?
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* Contentness: As a hero: convinced his king's about to sell out his country to the former enemy he hates, [[spoiler: aware that said married king is schtupping the empress of said former enemy nation]] - 5. As a villain: the more he tightens his grasp, the more the situation slips out of his control - 4.
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* Contentness: As a hero: convinced his king's king’s about to sell out his country to the former enemy he hates, [[spoiler: aware that said married king is schtupping the empress of said former enemy nation]] - 5. As a villain: the more he tightens his grasp, the more the situation slips out of his control - 4.
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Average: 3.88 for the FaceHeelTurn, 2.5 for the HeelFaceTurn. The former isn't that surprising, but we probably weren't expecting the latter.
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Average: 3.88 for the FaceHeelTurn, 2.5 for the HeelFaceTurn. The former isn't isn’t that surprising, but we probably weren't weren’t expecting the latter.
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* Aesthetics: Gorgeous seductress with questionable taste in clothes...but she's both a bit gothic AND has yellow eyes, so definitely a 4.
* Motivation for doing good: Sure, she doesn't want lots of big ugly monsters to kill the world, but other than that she's not too concerned about doing good for anyone. 5-a-licious.
* Characterization: Arrogant, power-hungry loner who definitely likes to play with dangerous stuff; also obviously an AntiHero from the get-go. Let's settle this one at a 4.
* Motivation for doing good: Sure, she doesn't want lots of big ugly monsters to kill the world, but other than that she's not too concerned about doing good for anyone. 5-a-licious.
* Characterization: Arrogant, power-hungry loner who definitely likes to play with dangerous stuff; also obviously an AntiHero from the get-go. Let's settle this one at a 4.
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* Aesthetics: Gorgeous seductress with questionable taste in clothes...but she's she’s both a bit gothic AND has yellow eyes, so definitely a 4.
* Motivation for doing good: Sure, shedoesn't doesn’t want lots of big ugly monsters to kill the world, but other than that she's not too concerned about doing good for anyone. 5-a-licious.
* Characterization: Arrogant, power-hungry loner who definitely likes to play with dangerous stuff; also obviously an AntiHero from the get-go.Let's Let’s settle this one at a 4.
* Motivation for doing good: Sure, she
* Characterization: Arrogant, power-hungry loner who definitely likes to play with dangerous stuff; also obviously an AntiHero from the get-go.
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Average: 3.9. Nobody's surprised that she has ulterior motives.
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Average: 3.9. Nobody's Nobody’s surprised that she has ulterior motives.
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* Species: Human...sort of...mostly...I'll call that a 4. Definitely some creepiness involved in being an abomination.
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* Species: Human...sort of...mostly...I'll I’ll call that a 4. Definitely some creepiness involved in being an abomination.
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* Motivation for doing good: Compassion and justice...with a side of vengeance on the oppressor. A little hard to rate, but let's average the warm fuzzies and the cold smities out to a 2.
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* Motivation for doing good: Compassion and justice...with a side of vengeance on the oppressor. A little hard to rate, but let's let’s average the warm fuzzies and the cold smities out to a 2.
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* Morality of the story: There's no real BigBad in ''[=DA2=]''; while the likes of [[CompleteMonster Ser Alrik]] do occasionally show up, it's mostly more GrayAndGreyMorality. 4.
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* Morality of the story: There's There’s no real BigBad in ''[=DA2=]''; while the likes of [[CompleteMonster Ser Alrik]] do occasionally show up, it's it’s mostly more GrayAndGreyMorality. 4.
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* Motivation for doing good: Owing you for sparing his life. That's kind of loyalty, I guess? 2.
* Characterization: Pleasant company, but won't sink much lower than this, even if he has [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards]]. 2.
* Contentness: [[spoiler: Took his assignment to kill you because he wanted to die due to his guilt over murdering his lover because of a terrible misunderstanding.]] That's pretty angsty. Also has a DarkAndTroubledPast it's hard to beat: being sold into slavery as an assassin at age seven. 5.
* Characterization: Pleasant company, but won't sink much lower than this, even if he has [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards]]. 2.
* Contentness: [[spoiler: Took his assignment to kill you because he wanted to die due to his guilt over murdering his lover because of a terrible misunderstanding.]] That's pretty angsty. Also has a DarkAndTroubledPast it's hard to beat: being sold into slavery as an assassin at age seven. 5.
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* Motivation for doing good: Owing you for sparing his life. That's That’s kind of loyalty, I guess? 2.
* Characterization: Pleasant company, butwon't won’t sink much lower than this, even if he has [[EvenEvilHasStandards standards]]. 2.
* Contentness: [[spoiler: Took his assignment to kill you because he wanted to die due to his guilt over murdering his lover because of a terrible misunderstanding.]]That's That’s pretty angsty. Also has a DarkAndTroubledPast it's it’s hard to beat: being sold into slavery as an assassin at age seven. 5.
* Characterization: Pleasant company, but
* Contentness: [[spoiler: Took his assignment to kill you because he wanted to die due to his guilt over murdering his lover because of a terrible misunderstanding.]]
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I can't help wondering whether the Doctor himself would have gone through with a FaceHeelTurn if Adelaide Brooke hadn't [[HeroicSacrifice disrupted]] his frankly terrifying flirtation with AGodAmI. So here goes.
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I can't can’t help wondering but wonder whether the Doctor himself would have gone through with a FaceHeelTurn if Adelaide Brooke hadn't hadn’t [[HeroicSacrifice disrupted]] his frankly terrifying flirtation with AGodAmI. So here goes.goes:
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* Aesthetics: YMMV on this one. I'd give him a [[StupidSexyFlanders 1]], but there are others who would give him a 3. So, as a compromise, 2.
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* Aesthetics: YMMV on this one. I'd I’d give him a [[StupidSexyFlanders 1]], but there are others who would give him a 3. So, as a compromise, 2.
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* Contentness: Not happy, and the lack of a companion isn't helping - 4
* Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality, I'd say - 4
* Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality, I'd say - 4
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* Contentness: Not happy, and the lack of a companion isn't isn’t helping - 4
* Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality,I'd I’d say - 4
* Morality: GreyAndGrayMorality,
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And, since I'm having fun with this, let's see if the Master's final act in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The End Of Time"]] would have actually led to a HeelFaceTurn, if y'know, [[StatusQuoIsGod there was any way in hell the writers would even vaguely consider that]].
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And, since I'm I’m having fun with this, let's let’s see if the Master's Master’s final act in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime "The “The End Of Time"]] Time”]] would have actually led to a HeelFaceTurn, if y'know, if, y’know, [[StatusQuoIsGod there was were any way in hell the writers would even vaguely consider that]].
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* Aesthetics: YMMV again, but I'd give him a 5.
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* Aesthetics: YMMV again, but I'd I’d give him a 5.
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* Contentness: He's fine with evil, but ''not'' a happy bunny - 3
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* Contentness: He's He’s fine with evil, but ''not'' a happy bunny - 3
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One more: how close to turning Valeyard was the Sixth Doctor after TheReveal of the Valeyard's origins during his [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E4TheUltimateFoe trial]]?
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One more: how close to turning Valeyard was the Sixth Doctor after TheReveal of the Valeyard's Valeyard’s origins during his [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E4TheUltimateFoe trial]]?
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* Aesthetics: Would qualify as "dignified" if he didn't insist on wearing [[ImpossiblyTackyClothes a coat that probably counts as visual torture in some countries]] - 3
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* Aesthetics: Would qualify as "dignified" “dignified” if he didn't didn’t insist on wearing [[ImpossiblyTackyClothes a coat that probably counts as visual torture in some countries]] - 3
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* Characterization: Would get a 4 if he wasn't so determined to eradicate evil - 2
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* Characterization: Would get a 4 if he wasn't weren’t so determined to eradicate evil - 2
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* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, given the Master's presence - 3
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* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil, given the Master's Master’s presence - 3
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Let's try River Song for FaceHeelTurn (to see if she could really have been the one in the space suit in "The Impossible Astronaut".):
* Species: Half-Human, Half-[[SuperiorSpecies Time Lord]]. Let's put her in the middle with 2.
* Species: Half-Human, Half-[[SuperiorSpecies Time Lord]]. Let's put her in the middle with 2.
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* Species: Half-Human, Half-[[SuperiorSpecies Time Lord]].
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* Age: Unclear at the time of the Doctor's death. We'll put her between ChildrenAreInnocent and Middle-Aged. 2
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* Age: Unclear at the time of the Doctor's Doctor’s death. We'll We’ll put her between ChildrenAreInnocent and Middle-Aged. 2
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Just for the hell of it, let's do the Daleks for HeelFaceTurn:
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Just for the hell of it, let's let’s do the Daleks for HeelFaceTurn:
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* Gender: Don't have gender.
* Age: Let's go with old. 1.
* Age: Let's go with old. 1.
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* Gender: Don't Don’t have gender.
gender, and are definitely ''not'' outgoing. 3
* Age:Let's Let’s go with old. 1.
* Age:
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* Contentness: Shit, contentness? Let's go with doing well. 2
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* Contentness: Shit, contentness? Let's Let’s go with doing well. 2
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So... 15/9 = 1.67. Not very likely.
Likelihood of Turning Face for Light Yagami of Manga/DeathNote
* Species: Human -3
Likelihood of Turning Face for Light Yagami of Manga/DeathNote
* Species: Human -3
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So... 15/9 18/10 = 1.67.8. Not very likely.
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Likelihood of Turning Face for Light Yagami ofManga/DeathNote
''Manga/DeathNote'':
* Species: Human-3- 3
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Likelihood of Turning Face for Light Yagami of
* Species: Human
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Average: 20/10 = 2 In the end, Light's own conviction that he's ''already'' good diminishes his chances.
Now let's see if L would ever cross over to the dark side!
* Species: Human -3
* Gender: Male -4
* Age: Young Adult -5
* Role: Freelancer -4
* Aesthetics: EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette -4
* Motivation: Force of Habit -4
* Characterization: Arrogant -4
* Contentedness: Neutral -3
* Morality of the story: BlackAndGrayMorality -5
* Idealism of the story: Cynical -5
Average: 41/10 = 4.1 If L got into a position where he'd have to join the side of evil, you'd better believe he'd do it.
While on that note, let's see if Mello and Near would truly be L's prodigies. Would Mello totally lose it? Will Near be able to hold out after the end?
Mello:
Now let's see if L would ever cross over to the dark side!
* Species: Human -3
* Gender: Male -4
* Age: Young Adult -5
* Role: Freelancer -4
* Aesthetics: EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette -4
* Motivation: Force of Habit -4
* Characterization: Arrogant -4
* Contentedness: Neutral -3
* Morality of the story: BlackAndGrayMorality -5
* Idealism of the story: Cynical -5
Average: 41/10 = 4.1 If L got into a position where he'd have to join the side of evil, you'd better believe he'd do it.
While on that note, let's see if Mello and Near would truly be L's prodigies. Would Mello totally lose it? Will Near be able to hold out after the end?
Mello:
to:
Average: 20/10 = 2 2. In the end, Light's Light’s own conviction that he's ''already'' good diminishes his chances.
Nowlet's let’s see if L would ever cross over to the dark side!
* Species: Human -3
* Gender: Male -4
* Age: Young Adult -5
* Role: Freelancer -4
* Aesthetics: EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette -4
* Motivation: Force of Habit -4
* Characterization: Arrogant -4
* Contentedness: Neutral -3
* Morality of the story: BlackAndGrayMorality -5
* Idealism of the story: Cynical -5
Average: 41/10 = 4.1 If L got into a position where he'd have to join the side of evil, you'd better believe he'd do it.
While on that note, let's see if Mello and Near would truly be L's prodigies. Would Mello totally lose it? Will Near be able to hold out after the end?
Mello:side!
Now
* Species: Human -3
* Gender: Male -4
* Age: Young Adult -5
* Role: Freelancer -4
* Aesthetics: EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette -4
* Motivation: Force of Habit -4
* Characterization: Arrogant -4
* Contentedness: Neutral -3
* Morality of the story: BlackAndGrayMorality -5
* Idealism of the story: Cynical -5
Average: 41/10 = 4.1 If L got into a position where he'd have to join the side of evil, you'd better believe he'd do it.
While on that note, let's see if Mello and Near would truly be L's prodigies. Would Mello totally lose it? Will Near be able to hold out after the end?
Mello:
* Age: Young Adult - 5
* Role: Freelancer - 4
* Aesthetics: EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette - 4
* Motivation: Force of Habit - 4
* Characterization: Arrogant - 4
* Contentedness: Neutral - 3
* Morality of the story: BlackAndGrayMorality - 5
* Idealism of the story: Cynical - 5
Average: 41/10 = 4.1 If L got into a position where he’d have to join the side of evil, you’d better believe he’d do it.
While on that note, let’s see if Mello and Near would truly be L’s protégés. Would Mello totally lose it? Will Near be able to hold out after the end?
Mello:
* Species: Human - 3
* Gender: Male - 4
* Role: Freelancer - 4
* Aesthetics: EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette - 4
* Motivation: Force of Habit - 4
* Characterization: Arrogant - 4
* Contentedness: Neutral - 3
* Morality of the story: BlackAndGrayMorality - 5
* Idealism of the story: Cynical - 5
Average: 41/10 = 4.1 If L got into a position where he’d have to join the side of evil, you’d better believe he’d do it.
While on that note, let’s see if Mello and Near would truly be L’s protégés. Would Mello totally lose it? Will Near be able to hold out after the end?
Mello:
* Species: Human - 3
* Gender: Male - 4
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* Role: I'll go with freelancer, especially as how he's a mob boss - 4
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* Role: I'll I’ll go with freelancer, especially as how he's he’s a mob boss - 4
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* Motivation: It's very questionable, mostly just to compete with Near - 5
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* Motivation: It's It’s very questionable, mostly just to compete with Near - 5
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* Role: He's a lot like L - 4
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* Role: He's He’s a lot like L - 4
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* Contentness: I'll go with neutral - 3
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* Contentness: I'll I’ll go with neutral - 3
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Woah, they're both just itching to go to the dark side! And Near scores exactly the same as L, with Mello a little below them both. No wonder WordOfGod states Near is the "more evil" between him and Mello. Now we can say for certain that Light's main opponents are really no better than him!
Due to the events of ''VideoGame/BlazBlueContinuumShift'', let's see how is the chances of [[MsFanservice Litchi Faye-Ling]] once again turn good and call it quits being with NOL. If she is low, then even Tsubaki is doomed.
Due to the events of ''VideoGame/BlazBlueContinuumShift'', let's see how is the chances of [[MsFanservice Litchi Faye-Ling]] once again turn good and call it quits being with NOL. If she is low, then even Tsubaki is doomed.
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Woah, they're they’re both just itching to go to the dark side! And Near scores exactly the same as L, with Mello a little below them both. No wonder WordOfGod states Near is the "more evil" “more evil” between him and Mello. Now we can say for certain that Light's Light’s main opponents are really no better than him!
he!
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Due to the events of ''VideoGame/BlazBlueContinuumShift'',let's let’s see how is are the chances of [[MsFanservice Litchi Faye-Ling]] once again turn turning good and call calling it quits being with NOL. If she is low, then even Tsubaki is doomed.
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Due to the events of ''VideoGame/BlazBlueContinuumShift'',
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* Age: She doesn't seem to reach 30 years old, so Young Adult - 4
* Role: She's the SixthRanger or SixthRangerTraitor of NOL who was not their starting members, so it's more like Freelancer - 5
* Aesthetics: She's the MsFanservice. - 5
* Role: She's the SixthRanger or SixthRangerTraitor of NOL who was not their starting members, so it's more like Freelancer - 5
* Aesthetics: She's the MsFanservice. - 5
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* Age: She doesn't doesn’t seem to reach over 30 years old, so Young Adult - 4
* Role:She's She’s the SixthRanger or SixthRangerTraitor of NOL who was not their starting members, so it's more like Freelancer - 5
* Aesthetics:She's the She’s MsFanservice. - 5
* Role:
* Aesthetics:
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* Characterization: VERY LOST AND CONFUSED (as far as the consensus go) - 5
* Contentness: Unknown thus far. She looks more like a PunchClockVillain, but she doesn't have high opinions on NOL, especially after she refused Hazama on the first go, thus making it like she doesn't enjoy being with NOL. But she never shows it. Buuut, if we're to go with what's shown thus far, as in complaining towards Rachel on how this is the only chance she got, needing to be persuaded thoroughly by Hazama before agreeing, and her dislike to Relius' actions for Carl... let's just say she's not content. She just didn't show time to angst, so 4.
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. Unlike what most people say, ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' isn't very much BlackAndGrayMorality, even if the 'Good' is pretty gray. The Good: Anyone opposing NOL, The Bad: NOL, The Evil: Izanami, Yuuki Terumi and Relius. Therefore - 4 (if you feel insistent on it being Black And Gray... then it's 1)
* Contentness: Unknown thus far. She looks more like a PunchClockVillain, but she doesn't have high opinions on NOL, especially after she refused Hazama on the first go, thus making it like she doesn't enjoy being with NOL. But she never shows it. Buuut, if we're to go with what's shown thus far, as in complaining towards Rachel on how this is the only chance she got, needing to be persuaded thoroughly by Hazama before agreeing, and her dislike to Relius' actions for Carl... let's just say she's not content. She just didn't show time to angst, so 4.
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. Unlike what most people say, ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' isn't very much BlackAndGrayMorality, even if the 'Good' is pretty gray. The Good: Anyone opposing NOL, The Bad: NOL, The Evil: Izanami, Yuuki Terumi and Relius. Therefore - 4 (if you feel insistent on it being Black And Gray... then it's 1)
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* Characterization: VERY LOST AND CONFUSED (as far as the consensus go) goes) - 5
* Contentness: Unknown thus far. She looks more like a PunchClockVillain, but shedoesn't doesn’t have high opinions on NOL, especially after she refused Hazama on the first go, thus making it like she doesn't doesn’t enjoy being with NOL. But she never shows it. Buuut, if we're we’re to go with what's what is shown thus far, as in complaining towards Rachel on how this is the only chance she got, needing to be persuaded thoroughly by Hazama before agreeing, and her dislike to Relius' Relius’ actions for Carl... let's let’s just say she's she’s not content. She just didn't didn’t show time to angst, so 4.
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. Unlike what most people say, ''VideoGame/BlazBlue''isn't isn’t very much BlackAndGrayMorality, even if the 'Good' “good” is pretty gray. The Good: Anyone opposing NOL, The Bad: NOL, The Evil: Izanami, Yuuki Terumi and Relius. Therefore - 4 (if you feel insistent on it being Black And Gray... then it's 1)
* Contentness: Unknown thus far. She looks more like a PunchClockVillain, but she
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. Unlike what most people say, ''VideoGame/BlazBlue''
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Average: 36.5/9 (without contentness consensus), or 40.5/10 (with current contentness consensus): 4.05. Actually very high chance. But this is ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' we're talking about. With people like Terumi around, he can change the chance. [[spoiler:She has her work cut out for her, but Terumi ain't around to fuck it up. At the very least, while not exactly babyface again she's at least no longer Heel-ish, and right now hangs around with an improved, more humane Carl (thanks to her) who had a depressed Relius on his leash. So... success, somehow.]]
For fun, let's see how was her chance of turning Heel, as proven in CS. Was it a low chance at first, but the impossible happened, or it was high all along?
For fun, let's see how was her chance of turning Heel, as proven in CS. Was it a low chance at first, but the impossible happened, or it was high all along?
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Average: 36.5/9 (without contentness consensus), or 40.5/10 (with current contentness consensus): 4.05. Actually very high chance. But this is ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' we're we’re talking about. With people like Terumi around, he can change the chance. [[spoiler:She has her work cut out for her, but Terumi ain't ain’t around to fuck it up. At the very least, while not exactly babyface again she's she’s at least no longer Heel-ish, and right now hangs around with an improved, more humane Carl (thanks to her) who had a depressed Relius on his leash. So... success, somehow.]]
For fun,let's let’s see how what was her chance of turning Heel, as proven in CS. Was it a low chance at first, but the impossible happened, or it was high all along?
For fun,
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* Aesthetics: She's the MsFanservice. - 1
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* Aesthetics: She's the She’s MsFanservice. - 1
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Now let us try doing Tsubaki Yayoi, whether she'll [[IncrediblyLamePun see the light]] or not.
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Now let us try doing Tsubaki Yayoi, whether she'll she’ll [[IncrediblyLamePun see the light]] or not.
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* Role: TheDarkChick of the team. She's nowhere near TheDragon of Imperator in position compared to Hazama or Relius - 3
* Aesthetics: She's human, she's attractive for a teenager, she's a redhead. Even if it's less fanservicey compared to Makoto, it's still pretty. - 5
* Motivation: Thus far, she's of KnightTemplar territory. - 4
* Characterization: While she is lost and confused, her code as a Yayoi family, plus 'support' and sight from the Imperator makes her less confused and more focused compared to Litchi. - 4
* Contentness: Neutral. It's an order, and she has no time to angst, as much as she want. - 3
* Aesthetics: She's human, she's attractive for a teenager, she's a redhead. Even if it's less fanservicey compared to Makoto, it's still pretty. - 5
* Motivation: Thus far, she's of KnightTemplar territory. - 4
* Characterization: While she is lost and confused, her code as a Yayoi family, plus 'support' and sight from the Imperator makes her less confused and more focused compared to Litchi. - 4
* Contentness: Neutral. It's an order, and she has no time to angst, as much as she want. - 3
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* Role: TheDarkChick of the team. She's She’s nowhere near TheDragon of Imperator in position compared to Hazama or Relius - 3
* Aesthetics:She's She’s human, she's she’s attractive for a teenager, she's and she’s a redhead. Even if it's it’s less fanservicey compared to Makoto, it's it’s still pretty. - 5
* Motivation: Thus far,she's of she’s in KnightTemplar territory. - 4
* Characterization: While she is lost and confused, her code as a Yayoi family, plus'support' “support” and sight from the Imperator makes her less confused and more focused compared to Litchi. - 4
* Contentness: Neutral.It's It’s an order, and she has no time to angst, as much as she want.wants to. - 3
* Aesthetics:
* Motivation: Thus far,
* Characterization: While she is lost and confused, her code as a Yayoi family, plus
* Contentness: Neutral.
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Average: 35.5/10: 3.55. Slightly lower than Litchi (and still lower if Litchi's contentness can be rated), but she has the advantage of being linked with one of the core characters (Jin), thus it's looking good for Tsubaki. [[spoiler:Between Jin, Noel and Makoto, she's back in white... with ''flying colors''. May want to be careful with that newfound hatred on Ragna though.]]
So with, Carl starting to turn to the dark side, let's see how likely he was.
So with, Carl starting to turn to the dark side, let's see how likely he was.
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Average: 35.5/10: 3.55. Slightly lower than Litchi (and still lower if Litchi's Litchi’s contentness can be rated), but she has the advantage of being linked with one of the core characters (Jin), thus it's it’s looking good for Tsubaki. [[spoiler:Between Jin, Noel and Makoto, she's she’s back in white... with ''flying colors''. May want to be careful with that newfound hatred on Ragna though.]]
So with, Carl starting to turn to the dark side,let's let’s see how likely he was.
So with, Carl starting to turn to the dark side,
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* Role: Kinda as Jin's Lancer amongst the Academy groups before everyone went away... - 5
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* Role: Kinda as Jin's Jin’s Lancer amongst the Academy groups before everyone went away... - 5
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* Motivation: More than likely, it's for the love of Jin as well as familial duties. - 2
* Characterization: She's slightly corruptible, but she certainly wouldn't want to be AntiHero-ic - 2
* Characterization: She's slightly corruptible, but she certainly wouldn't want to be AntiHero-ic - 2
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* Motivation: More than likely, it's it’s for the love of Jin as well as familial duties. - 2
* Characterization:She's She’s slightly corruptible, but she certainly wouldn't wouldn’t want to be AntiHero-ic - 2
* Characterization:
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For fun, let us try calculating who's the bigger bad between Hazama or Relius. Whoever gets the higher score might get a DeathEqualsRedemption (A HeelFaceTurn is already too late for these guys)
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For fun, let us try calculating who's who’s the bigger bad between Hazama or Relius. Whoever gets the higher score might get a DeathEqualsRedemption DeathEqualsRedemption. (A HeelFaceTurn is already too late impossible for these guys)
guys.)
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* Species: His true form is actually a ghost, looking quite like EldritchAbomination - 1
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* Species: His true form is actually a ghost, looking quite like an EldritchAbomination - 1
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* Age: Existing since ages long. He's quite old - 1
* Role: He's part of the BigBadDiumvirate - 1
* Role: He's part of the BigBadDiumvirate - 1
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* Age: Existing since ages long. He's He’s quite old - 1
* Role:He's He’s part of the BigBadDiumvirate BigBadDuumvirate - 1
* Role:
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* Motivation: He's a frigging CompleteMonster who does evil things for lulz - 1
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* Motivation: He's He’s a frigging CompleteMonster who does evil things for the lulz - 1
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* Contentness: He's enjoying every minute of it - 1
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* Contentness: He's He’s enjoying every minute of it - 1
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* Species: Look human enough, but rumors say that he existed long ago and became like Terumi - 1.5
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* Species: Look Looks human enough, but rumors say that he existed long ago and became like Terumi - 1.5
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* Role: He's part of the BigBadDuumvirate - 1
* Aesthetics: [[EvilIsSexy Evil Is Rugged]]. That mask ain't foolin' anyone, plus he got the voice of [[Creator/JunichiSuwabe someone who makes his characters]] a SexGod - 4
* Motivation: While he looks like a CompleteMonster, and he is one actually, he doesn't have ForTheEvulz for his principles and seems to be looking for some kind of goal in the shadows - 2
* Characterization: Less characterized than Hazama, but he puts up a LawfulEvil facade in front of the Imperator and is pretty much all around cold blooded. - 3
* Contentness: He's content, but doesn't make it a frigging enjoyment like Hazama - 2
* Aesthetics: [[EvilIsSexy Evil Is Rugged]]. That mask ain't foolin' anyone, plus he got the voice of [[Creator/JunichiSuwabe someone who makes his characters]] a SexGod - 4
* Motivation: While he looks like a CompleteMonster, and he is one actually, he doesn't have ForTheEvulz for his principles and seems to be looking for some kind of goal in the shadows - 2
* Characterization: Less characterized than Hazama, but he puts up a LawfulEvil facade in front of the Imperator and is pretty much all around cold blooded. - 3
* Contentness: He's content, but doesn't make it a frigging enjoyment like Hazama - 2
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* Role: He's He’s part of the BigBadDuumvirate - 1
* Aesthetics: [[EvilIsSexy Evil Is Rugged]]. That maskain't foolin' ain’t foolin’ anyone, plus he he’s got the voice of [[Creator/JunichiSuwabe someone who makes his characters]] a SexGod - 4
* Motivation: While he looks like a CompleteMonster, and he is one actually, hedoesn't have doesn’t do things ForTheEvulz for his principles and seems to be looking for some kind of goal in from the shadows - 2
* Characterization: Less characterized than Hazama, but he puts up a LawfulEvil facade in front of the Imperator and is pretty muchall around cold blooded.all-around coldblooded. - 3
* Contentness:He's He’s content, but doesn't doesn’t make it a frigging enjoyment like Hazama - 2
* Aesthetics: [[EvilIsSexy Evil Is Rugged]]. That mask
* Motivation: While he looks like a CompleteMonster, and he is one actually, he
* Characterization: Less characterized than Hazama, but he puts up a LawfulEvil facade in front of the Imperator and is pretty much
* Contentness:
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[[spoiler:With Relius still around by the end of ''Central Fiction'', it's only a matter of time before he reappears again. Perhaps a DeathEqualsRedemption could be the best outcome for him. Terumi, on the other hand, is completely dead.]]
And now, last time in Calamity Trigger, Litchi appears in Tao's Gag Reel as a villain... then she pulls a FaceHeelTurn in Continuum Shift. Who's the villain in Tao's Gag Reel in Continuum Shift? Rachel Alucard. Therefore, let us see if she would really turn against the heroes once NOL and Hazama is taken care of.
And now, last time in Calamity Trigger, Litchi appears in Tao's Gag Reel as a villain... then she pulls a FaceHeelTurn in Continuum Shift. Who's the villain in Tao's Gag Reel in Continuum Shift? Rachel Alucard. Therefore, let us see if she would really turn against the heroes once NOL and Hazama is taken care of.
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[[spoiler:With Relius still around by the end of ''Central Fiction'', it's it’s only a matter of time before he reappears again. Perhaps a DeathEqualsRedemption could be the best outcome for him. Terumi, on the other hand, is completely dead.]]
And now, last time inCalamity Trigger, ''Calamity Trigger'', Litchi appears in Tao's Tao’s Gag Reel as a villain... then she pulls a FaceHeelTurn in Continuum Shift. Who's ''Continuum Shift''. Who’s the villain in Tao's Tao’s Gag Reel in Continuum Shift? ''Continuum Shift''? Rachel Alucard. Therefore, let us see if she would really turn against the heroes once NOL and Hazama is are taken care of.
And now, last time in
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* Aesthetics: She's got red eyes. - 5
* Motivation: Not known. She's not there for good sources, and she wonders why sometimes... - 5
* Motivation: Not known. She's not there for good sources, and she wonders why sometimes... - 5
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* Aesthetics: She's She’s got red eyes. - 5
* Motivation: Not known.She's She’s not there for good sources, and she wonders why sometimes... - 5
* Motivation: Not known.
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Average: 27/9 = 3.38. Surprisingly above 50%, a bit closer to Litchi, but less so. But the chance is still there, you may as well try to keep your eye on her, Ragna and Hakumen. So as of ''Chronophantasma'' [[spoiler:due to Ragna's fate, while on the 'good guys' side, Rachel is very on board of 'Ragna must be killed if we want to save this world'. So... uh...?]]
Let's now try to calculate if Kokonoe would really go over the edge and possibly become a villain worse than Hazama, if those nukes are any indications...
* Species: Inbetween being born between the world's most powerful creature and greatest mage, I'd say that's... a SuperiorSpecies - 1.
Let's now try to calculate if Kokonoe would really go over the edge and possibly become a villain worse than Hazama, if those nukes are any indications...
* Species: Inbetween being born between the world's most powerful creature and greatest mage, I'd say that's... a SuperiorSpecies - 1.
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Average: 27/9 = 3.38. Surprisingly above 50%, a bit closer to Litchi, but less so. But the chance is still there, you may as well try to keep your eye on her, Ragna and Hakumen. So as of ''Chronophantasma'' [[spoiler:due to Ragna's Ragna’s fate, while on the 'good guys' “good guys’” side, Rachel is very on board of 'Ragna ”Ragna must be killed if we want to save this world'. world.” So... uh...?]]
Let's Let’s now try to calculate if Kokonoe would really go over the edge and possibly become a villain worse than Hazama, if those nukes are any indications...
indication:
* Species:Inbetween Between being born between the world's world’s most powerful creature and greatest mage, I'd say that's...that’s... a SuperiorSpecies - 1.
* Species:
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* Age: She probably has been alive for long since she's probably born after Nine died. However... she's probably younger than Rachel, but older than Litchi, therefore, probably Middle Aged - 3
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* Age: She probably has been alive for long since she's she’s probably born after Nine died. However... she's she’s probably younger than Rachel, but older than Litchi, therefore, probably Middle Aged - 3
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* Motivation: Actually, why? Kokonoe's sole interest is just for her own glory, or kill Terumi, she really gave no shit for 'good' so long as she's satisfied - 5
* Characterization: She has zero social skills, orders people around like trash, holes herself up in her lab. Though she is pretty hotheaded and arrogant. Worst case 5, best case 4.
* Characterization: She has zero social skills, orders people around like trash, holes herself up in her lab. Though she is pretty hotheaded and arrogant. Worst case 5, best case 4.
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* Motivation: Actually, why? Kokonoe's Kokonoe’s sole interest is just for her own glory, or to kill Terumi, she Terumi. She really gave no shit for 'good' “good” so long as she's she’s satisfied - 5
* Characterization: She has zero social skills, orders people around like trash, and holes herself up in her lab. Though she is pretty hotheaded and arrogant. Worst case 5, best case 4.
* Characterization: She has zero social skills, orders people around like trash, and holes herself up in her lab. Though she is pretty hotheaded and arrogant. Worst case 5, best case 4.
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Average: Worst case 31.5/9: 3.5, best case 3.05/9: 3.38. Above average and is dangerously skirting the line. Ragna better try to appease her or else she will turn the whole Sector Seven against him. [[spoiler:Everyone else has the burden now that Ragna's been forcibly conscripted.]]
Because Tsubaki has already performed a FaceHeelTurn, what about the other two members of the Three NOL Stooges, Noel and Makoto? What about their chances? First, Noel.
* Species: Humanoid. She's a Murakumo Unit after all. 3.
Because Tsubaki has already performed a FaceHeelTurn, what about the other two members of the Three NOL Stooges, Noel and Makoto? What about their chances? First, Noel.
* Species: Humanoid. She's a Murakumo Unit after all. 3.
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Average: Worst case 31.5/9: 3.5, best case 3.05/9: 3.38. Above average and is dangerously skirting the line. Ragna better try to appease her or else she will turn the whole Sector Seven against him. [[spoiler:Everyone else has the burden now that Ragna's Ragna’s been forcibly conscripted.]]
Because Tsubaki has already performed a FaceHeelTurn, what about the other two members of the Three NOL Stooges, Noel and Makoto? What about their chances? First,Noel.
Noel:
* Species: Humanoid.She's She’s a Murakumo Unit after all. 3.
Because Tsubaki has already performed a FaceHeelTurn, what about the other two members of the Three NOL Stooges, Noel and Makoto? What about their chances? First,
* Species: Humanoid.
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* Age: She's chronologically a child. 1.
* Role: She's more TheChick through and through for our hero Ragna... so probably 3.
* Role: She's more TheChick through and through for our hero Ragna... so probably 3.
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* Age: She's She’s chronologically a child. 1.
* Role:She's She’s more TheChick through and through for our hero Ragna... so probably 3.
* Role:
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* Motivation: She's trying to do good for her family and for the moment... friends, like the rest of the Stooges (except Tsubaki). 2
* Characterization: While she is a MessianicArchetype, the fact that Hazama CAN turn her into Mu-12 hampers her 'incorruptibleness', even if the mode was shut down by Ragna, but she really won't even touch AntiHero-ism. 1.5.
* Characterization: While she is a MessianicArchetype, the fact that Hazama CAN turn her into Mu-12 hampers her 'incorruptibleness', even if the mode was shut down by Ragna, but she really won't even touch AntiHero-ism. 1.5.
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* Motivation: She's She’s trying to do good for her family and for the moment... friends, like the rest of the Stooges (except Tsubaki). 2
* Characterization: While she is a MessianicArchetype, the fact that Hazama CAN turn her into Mu-12 hampers her'incorruptibleness', incorruptibility, even if the mode was shut down by Ragna, but she really won't won’t even touch AntiHero-ism. 1.5.
* Characterization: While she is a MessianicArchetype, the fact that Hazama CAN turn her into Mu-12 hampers her
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Average: 23/10 = 2.3.... Come on, she's out of Mu-12 phase! Why is it slightly above average!? I guess everyone needs to be careful. [[spoiler:Denied as of Chronophantasma.]]
Next, Makoto.
Next, Makoto.
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Average: 23/10 = 2.3.... Come on, she's she’s out of Mu-12 phase! Why is it slightly above average!? I guess everyone needs to be careful. [[spoiler:Denied as of Chronophantasma.''Chronophantasma''.]]
Next,Makoto.
Makoto:
Next,
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* Motivation: Spouts goodness and 'fighting for justice' or sorta like that, very much like a female Bang. Of course, mainly loyalty and friendship, but with those extra tidbits... 1.
* Characterization: Always protecting friends is nice on paper, but when the practice is 'brutally kill anyone who ever tries to look at her friends (Noel and Tsubaki) funny'... that's AntiHero-ic. Still, she won't get lower than that. 2.
* Characterization: Always protecting friends is nice on paper, but when the practice is 'brutally kill anyone who ever tries to look at her friends (Noel and Tsubaki) funny'... that's AntiHero-ic. Still, she won't get lower than that. 2.
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* Motivation: Spouts goodness and 'fighting “fighting for justice' justice” or sorta something like that, very much like a female Bang. Of course, mainly loyalty and friendship, but with those extra tidbits... 1.
* Characterization: Always protecting friends is nice on paper, but when the practice is'brutally “brutally kill anyone who ever tries to look at her friends (Noel and Tsubaki) funny'... that's AntiHero-ic. funny”... that’s {{Anti Hero}}ic. Still, she won't won’t get lower than that. 2.
* Characterization: Always protecting friends is nice on paper, but when the practice is
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Average: 24.5/10 = 2.45. Actually below average. But very little below average so perhaps Makoto can't just relax despite the score. There's always the chance of [[KnightTemplar taking 'protecting friends' too far]] if her comment to Tager is any indication... [[spoiler:Denied as of Chronophantasma.]]
Okay, so let's see if Arakune enjoys being a monster more than returning back into Lotte Carmine and make a good life as a normal man?
* Species: That's a frickin' EldritchAbomination. 1.
Okay, so let's see if Arakune enjoys being a monster more than returning back into Lotte Carmine and make a good life as a normal man?
* Species: That's a frickin' EldritchAbomination. 1.
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Average: 24.5/10 = 2.45. Actually below average. But very little below average so perhaps Makoto can't can’t just relax despite the score. There's There’s always the chance of [[KnightTemplar taking 'protecting friends' “protecting friends” too far]] if her comment to Tager is any indication... [[spoiler:Denied as of Chronophantasma.''Chronophantasma''.]]
Okay, so let's see if Arakune enjoys being a monster more thanreturning turning back into Lotte Carmine and make making a good life as a normal man?
* Species:That's That’s a frickin' frickin’ EldritchAbomination. 1.
Okay, so let's see if Arakune enjoys being a monster more than
* Species:
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* Age: He can't be that much older than Litchi. Young adult. 4.
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* Age: He can't can’t be that much older than Litchi. Young adult. 4.
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* Motivation: JustThinkOfThePotential! Is what he said to Kokonoe all the time and look at how he ended up. 2.
* Characterization: Admittedly, combining his aspects as Arakune and Lotte, he's pretty rounded. 5.
* Contentness: I don't think he likes being a monster that can make no advances on his ambition against Kokonoe. 5.
* Characterization: Admittedly, combining his aspects as Arakune and Lotte, he's pretty rounded. 5.
* Contentness: I don't think he likes being a monster that can make no advances on his ambition against Kokonoe. 5.
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* Motivation: JustThinkOfThePotential! Is “JustThinkOfThePotential” is what he said to Kokonoe all the time and look at how he ended up. 2.
* Characterization: Admittedly, combining his aspects as Arakune and Lotte,he's he’s pretty rounded. 5.
* Contentness: Idon't don’t think he likes being a monster that can make no advances on his ambition against Kokonoe. 5.
* Characterization: Admittedly, combining his aspects as Arakune and Lotte,
* Contentness: I
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Result: 30.5/10. Very good, above average chance. But still, it all depended if Litchi succeeds or not... AND whether he can finally do something on that inferiority complex of his.
Now let's try Ragna, Jin and Hakumen to see how likely they are to go Heel.
Now let's try Ragna, Jin and Hakumen to see how likely they are to go Heel.
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Result: 30.5/10. Very good, above average chance. But still, it all depended depends if Litchi succeeds or not... AND whether he can finally do something on that inferiority complex of his.
Now let's try Ragna, Jin and Hakumen to see how likely they are to goHeel.
Heel:
Now let's try Ragna, Jin and Hakumen to see how likely they are to go
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* Species: Given how the series repeats in a time loop and Ragna's species could vary (human and HumanoidAbomination, which would give a respective score of 3 and 4), I'll leave this out.
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* Species: Given how the series repeats in a time loop and Ragna's Ragna’s species could vary (human and HumanoidAbomination, which would give a respective score of 3 and 4), I'll I’ll leave this out.
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* Motivation: At his worst, he was driven purely by revenge, and really didn't give a damn about others - 5
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* Motivation: At his worst, he was driven purely by revenge, and really didn't didn’t give a damn about others - 5
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* Contentness: You know that if you have a guy who's killing NOL people without hesitation, you know that life in the series sucks horrible - 4
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* Contentness: You know that if you have a guy who's who’s killing NOL people without hesitation, you know that life in the series sucks horrible - 4
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Average: 33.5/9 (3.72). That likely? Looks like you got to be careful should you encounter Terumi again given his chances of succeeding at corrupting people into his side. [[spoiler:Turns out it wasn't Terumi he should've been worried about...]]
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Average: 33.5/9 (3.72). That likely? Looks like you got to be careful should you encounter Terumi again given his chances of succeeding at corrupting people into his side. [[spoiler:Turns out it wasn't wasn’t Terumi he should've been worried about...]]
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Average: 35.5/10 (3.55). Seems you have a better chance at remaining face than Ragna but you're still likely to go heel. [[spoiler:Denied as of Chronophantasma.]]
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Average: 35.5/10 (3.55). Seems you have a better chance at remaining face than Ragna but you're still likely to go heel. [[spoiler:Denied as of Chronophantasma.''Chronophantasma''.]]
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* Motivation: Has a single sexuality to Tsubaki - 2
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* Motivation: Has a single sexuality SingleTargetSexuality to Tsubaki - 2
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Average: 30.5/10 (3.05). Out of all the three, Hakumen has a better chance of remaining face. Still he has to be careful because he might end up going HeWhoFightsMonsters. [[spoiler:His observational limit is approaching, so it appears he won't go heel in the time he has left.]]
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Average: 30.5/10 (3.05). Out of all the three, Hakumen has a better chance of remaining face. Still he has to be careful because he might end up going HeWhoFightsMonsters. [[spoiler:His observational limit is approaching, so it appears he won't won’t go heel in the time he has left.]]
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Let's see how likely the three [[Manga/DragonBall Buus]] are to go Face.
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* Age: Existing since ages long. He's quite old - 1
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* Age: Existing since ages long. He's past. He’s quite old - 1
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* Characterization: Tied with his ObliviouslyEvil status, he doesn't know any better until Hercule explains to him between right and wrong - 5
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* Characterization: Tied with his ObliviouslyEvil status, he doesn't doesn’t know any better until Hercule explains to him the difference between right and wrong - 5
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* Age: Existing since ages long. He's quite old - 1
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* Age: Existing since ages long. He's past. He’s quite old - 1
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* Motivation: Unlike Kid Buu, who is purely ForTheEvulz, Super Buu at least cared about a good fight - 1.5
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* Motivation: Unlike Kid Buu, who is purely ForTheEvulz, Super Buu at least cared cares about a good fight - 1.5
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* Contentness: Unlike Kid Buu, Super Buu was at least a bit more interested in fighting a strong opponent rather than random destruction. - 1.5
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* Contentness: Unlike Kid Buu, Super Buu was is at least a bit more interested in fighting a strong opponent rather than random destruction. - 1.5
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* Age: Existing since ages long. He's quite old - 1
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* Age: Existing since ages long. He's past. He’s quite old - 1
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* Motivation: He's a frigging monster who does evil things for lulz. - 1
* Characterization: ObviouslyEvil. He's even described as Evil Incarnate. - 1
* Contentness: He's enjoying every minute of it - 1
* Characterization: ObviouslyEvil. He's even described as Evil Incarnate. - 1
* Contentness: He's enjoying every minute of it - 1
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* Motivation: He's He’s a frigging monster who does evil things for the lulz. - 1
* Characterization: ObviouslyEvil.He's He’s even described as Evil Incarnate. - 1
* Contentness:He's He’s enjoying every minute of it - 1
* Characterization: ObviouslyEvil.
* Contentness:
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[[spoiler:Fat Buu already has gone Face. Super Buu and Kid Buu, especially for the latter, however, can piss off and stay dead.]]
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[[spoiler:Fat Buu already has gone Face. Super Buu and Kid Buu, especially for the latter, however, can piss off and stay dead.]]
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'''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'''
And just to be fair with the other ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'', let's try to see if somewhere along the line in VideoGame/GuiltyGear, Anji Mito could call it quits with working with That Man.
And just to be fair with the other ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'', let's try to see if somewhere along the line in VideoGame/GuiltyGear, Anji Mito could call it quits with working with That Man.
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And just to be fair with the other ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'', let's
Let’s try to see if somewhere along the line in
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* Role: He's a freelancer, no business with PWAB or the Holy Order so far - 5
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* Role: He's He’s a freelancer, no business with PWAB or the Holy Order so far - 5
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* Motivation: Anji's motivation is unknown, he sought knowledge and knowledge alone and that alone seems to put him rather low - 2
* Characterization: He's not very lost, he's focused on his thirst for knowledge and is a pretty honorable for a Japanese. More likely to become a NobleDemon - 4
* Contentness: He seems pretty content and seems to think That Man isn't as bad as Baiken thinks, going so far as trying to recruit her - 2
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. Not as extreme as the ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' setting, but VideoGame/GuiltyGear sure doesn't quite know a purely white faction. The Good: Holy Knights, Jellyfish Pirates, Zepp, Sol. The Bad: Assassin's Guild, That Man's group (barring I-No), Gears. The Evil: I-No, PWAB. - 4
* Idealism: Pretty Idealistic, but not very so. Anji being a Heel on basis of being with That Man himself is a proof that it's not overly idealistic - 4
Average: 36/10 = 3.6. Pretty good. Even if That Man isn't as bad as NOL, Anji himself will more likely find something unsettling on him and cause him to call it quits. Turns out, [[spoiler:That Man has been taking swings into AntiVillain so Anji would more likely get out of Heel status if That Man can keep up the sympathy.]]
Now how likely was Anji Mito to join That Man.
* Characterization: He's not very lost, he's focused on his thirst for knowledge and is a pretty honorable for a Japanese. More likely to become a NobleDemon - 4
* Contentness: He seems pretty content and seems to think That Man isn't as bad as Baiken thinks, going so far as trying to recruit her - 2
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. Not as extreme as the ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' setting, but VideoGame/GuiltyGear sure doesn't quite know a purely white faction. The Good: Holy Knights, Jellyfish Pirates, Zepp, Sol. The Bad: Assassin's Guild, That Man's group (barring I-No), Gears. The Evil: I-No, PWAB. - 4
* Idealism: Pretty Idealistic, but not very so. Anji being a Heel on basis of being with That Man himself is a proof that it's not overly idealistic - 4
Average: 36/10 = 3.6. Pretty good. Even if That Man isn't as bad as NOL, Anji himself will more likely find something unsettling on him and cause him to call it quits. Turns out, [[spoiler:That Man has been taking swings into AntiVillain so Anji would more likely get out of Heel status if That Man can keep up the sympathy.]]
Now how likely was Anji Mito to join That Man.
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* Motivation: Anji's Anji’s motivation is unknown, he sought knowledge and knowledge alone and that alone seems to put him rather low - 2
* Characterization:He's He’s not very lost, he's he’s focused on his thirst for knowledge and is a pretty honorable for a Japanese. More likely to become a NobleDemon - 4
* Contentness: He seems pretty content and seems to think That Manisn't isn’t as bad as Baiken thinks, going so far as trying to recruit her - 2
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. Not as extreme as the ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' setting, butVideoGame/GuiltyGear sure doesn't ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'' still doesn’t quite know a purely white faction. The Good: Holy Knights, Jellyfish Pirates, Zepp, Sol. The Bad: Assassin's Assassin’s Guild, That Man's Man’s group (barring I-No), Gears. The Evil: I-No, PWAB. - 4
* Idealism: Pretty Idealistic, but not very so. Anji being a Heel on basis of being with That Man himself is a proof thatit's it’s not overly idealistic - 4
Average: 36/10 = 3.6. Pretty good. Even if That Manisn't isn’t as bad as NOL, Anji himself will more likely find something unsettling on him and cause him to call it quits. Turns out, [[spoiler:That Man has been taking swings into AntiVillain so Anji would more likely get out of Heel status if That Man can keep up the sympathy.]]
Now how likely was Anji Mito to join ThatMan.Man:
* Characterization:
* Contentness: He seems pretty content and seems to think That Man
* Morality: TheGoodTheBadAndTheEvil. Not as extreme as the ''VideoGame/BlazBlue'' setting, but
* Idealism: Pretty Idealistic, but not very so. Anji being a Heel on basis of being with That Man himself is a proof that
Average: 36/10 = 3.6. Pretty good. Even if That Man
Now how likely was Anji Mito to join That
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* Role: He's a freelancer, no business with PWAB or the Holy Order so far - 4
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* Role: He's He’s a freelancer, no business with PWAB or the Holy Order so far - 4
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* Motivation: Anji's motivation is unknown, he sought knowledge and knowledge alone and that alone seems to put him rather high - 5
* Characterization: He's pretty much an easy-goer - 2
* Characterization: He's pretty much an easy-goer - 2
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* Motivation: Anji's Anji’s motivation is unknown, but he sought knowledge and knowledge alone and that alone seems to put him rather high - 5
* Characterization:He's He’s pretty much an easy-goer easygoer - 2
* Characterization:
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For a new GG character to be rated, Testament has all been on the stuffs about HumansAreBastards. As seen in one of his alternate endings in GGXX, he turns against humanity after Dizzy died. So what are the chances that in the future he gets riled up with humanity again and once again out to eradicate them?
* Species: Gear, seems like 'SuperiorSpecies' to me - 1
* Species: Gear, seems like 'SuperiorSpecies' to me - 1
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For a new GG character to be rated, Testament has all been on the stuffs stuff about HumansAreBastards. As seen in one of his alternate endings in GGXX, he turns against humanity after Dizzy died. So what are the chances that in the future he gets riled up with humanity again and once again out to eradicate them?
* Species: Gear, seems like'SuperiorSpecies' SuperiorSpecies to me - 1
* Species: Gear, seems like
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* Role: Ever since he's out of Justice's services, he's more like a Freelancer who chose to protect Dizzy on his own will. - 4
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* Role: Ever since he's he’s out of Justice's Justice’s services, he's he’s more like a Freelancer who chose to protect Dizzy on his own will. - 4
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* Motivation: Love and Loyalty, probably he does 'good' just to protect Dizzy - 2
* Characterization: VERY bitter and mistrusting for humanity, but lately he also becomes a bit of a loner due to Dizzy being with the Jellyfish - 5
* Contentness: Doesn't comment much about it. - 3
* Characterization: VERY bitter and mistrusting for humanity, but lately he also becomes a bit of a loner due to Dizzy being with the Jellyfish - 5
* Contentness: Doesn't comment much about it. - 3
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* Motivation: Love and Loyalty, probably he does 'good' “good” just to protect Dizzy - 2
* Characterization: VERY bitter and mistrustingfor of humanity, but lately he also becomes a bit of a loner due to Dizzy being with the Jellyfish - 5
* Contentness:Doesn't Doesn’t comment much about it. - 3
* Characterization: VERY bitter and mistrusting
* Contentness:
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Average: 34/10: 3.4. My God, no wonder most of Testament's alternate endings are about him renewing his war with humanity. His rate is just that kind of above average!
Judging in some of the ''Accent Core Plus'' endings where Baiken goes insane and becomes a murderess, let's see how likely she is to go heel should she appear in ''Xrd''.
Judging in some of the ''Accent Core Plus'' endings where Baiken goes insane and becomes a murderess, let's see how likely she is to go heel should she appear in ''Xrd''.
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Average: 34/10: 3.4. My God, no wonder most of Testament's Testament’s alternate endings are about him renewing his war with humanity. His rate is just that kind of above average!
high!
Judging in some of the ''Accent Core Plus'' endings where Baiken goes insane and becomes a murderess,let's let’s see how likely she is to go heel should she appear in ''Xrd''.''Xrd'':
Judging in some of the ''Accent Core Plus'' endings where Baiken goes insane and becomes a murderess,
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* Role: She's a freelancer, no business with PWAB or the Holy Order so far - 4
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* Role: She's She’s a freelancer, no business with PWAB or the Holy Order so far - 4
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* Motivation: Baiken's motivation is just to kill That Man. She really gave no shit for 'good' so long as she's satisfied - 5
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* Motivation: Baiken's motivation is just to kill That Man. She really gave gives no shit for 'good' “good” so long as she's she is satisfied - 5
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Judging from the Bad Future in the Drama CD, where Dizzy goes bad let's see how likely she is to go heel.
* Species: Half-human Half-Gear - 2
* Species: Half-human Half-Gear - 2
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Judging from the Bad Future in the Drama CD, where Dizzy goes bad let's let’s see how likely she is to go heel.
heel:
* Species:Half-human Half-human, Half-Gear - 2
* Species:
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Average: 24/10 = 2.4. Unlikely to go heel, but from the Drama CD, it must have taken enough hatred caused by I-No's trolling to make her snap, so she must be careful should she encounter her.
Now for I-No
Now for I-No
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Average: 24/10 = 2.4. Unlikely to go heel, but from the Drama CD, it must have taken enough hatred caused by I-No's I-No’s trolling to make her snap, so she must be careful should she encounter her.
Now forI-NoI-No:
Now for
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* Contentness: She's enjoying every minute of her acts - 1
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* Contentness: She's She’s enjoying every minute of her acts - 1
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Average: 30/10 = 3.0. Interesting. She seems to be a lot more likely to go Face than her ''[=BlazBlue=]'' counterpart Terumi. However, given her usual attitude, this isn't going to happen any time soon. [[spoiler:That Man might be taking a swing to AntiVillain, but we are not very sure if I-No, being herself, would follow suit or decides that she likes being evil more and grows sick of him telling her off whenever she goes a bit too far for his tastes.]]
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Average: 30/10 = 3.0. Interesting. She seems to be a lot more likely to go Face than her ''[=BlazBlue=]'' counterpart Terumi. However, given her usual attitude, this isn't isn’t going to happen any time soon. [[spoiler:That Man might be taking a swing to AntiVillain, but we are not very sure if I-No, being herself, would follow suit or decides that she likes being evil more and grows sick of him telling her off whenever she goes a bit too far for his tastes.]]
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The chance of [[Series/StargateUniverse Eli Wallace]] turning heel:
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''Series/StargateUniverse'' The chance of [[Series/StargateUniverse Eli Wallace]] Wallace turning heel:
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* Motivation: Habit (he is pretty much a law abiding citizen who didn't know better) - 4
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* Motivation: Habit (he is pretty much a law abiding law-abiding citizen who didn't doesn’t know better) - 4
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Let's see if Emperor K'Yyrikakas from The Warrior's Chronicles would have a chance at all of becoming good.
* Species: Krisil aren't exactly close to humanoid... 1.
* Gender: Krisil don't seem to really have them bar the Birthers. Leaving blank.
* Age: He's not an OLD god-king, but he's certainly not a teenager. Let's say 4.
* Role: He's the invader's overlord, pretty much guaranteed 1.
* Aesthetics: Well, considering he's not humanoid in the slightest I'll have to say 1. And he is a little scaly looking...
* Motivation: Well... He truly believes that conquest is good for his people... let's say 3.
* Characterization: He's a king and he's not afraid to be dirty when he has to. Pretty much a 3.
* Contentness: He's not exactly laughing with glee as they mow down the human infidels, but he likes it. 2.
* Morality: There's the true white, the true black, and all the grays in between. 2.
* Species: Krisil aren't exactly close to humanoid... 1.
* Gender: Krisil don't seem to really have them bar the Birthers. Leaving blank.
* Age: He's not an OLD god-king, but he's certainly not a teenager. Let's say 4.
* Role: He's the invader's overlord, pretty much guaranteed 1.
* Aesthetics: Well, considering he's not humanoid in the slightest I'll have to say 1. And he is a little scaly looking...
* Motivation: Well... He truly believes that conquest is good for his people... let's say 3.
* Characterization: He's a king and he's not afraid to be dirty when he has to. Pretty much a 3.
* Contentness: He's not exactly laughing with glee as they mow down the human infidels, but he likes it. 2.
* Morality: There's the true white, the true black, and all the grays in between. 2.
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Let's see if Emperor K'Yyrikakas from The Warrior's Chronicles ''The Warrior’s Chronicles'' would have a any chance at all of becoming good.
good:
* Species: Krisilaren't aren’t exactly close to humanoid... 1.
* Gender: Krisildon't don’t seem to really have them bar the Birthers. Leaving blank.
* Age:He's He’s not an OLD god-king, but he's he’s certainly not a teenager. Let's say 4.
* Role:He's He’s the invader's invaders’ overlord, pretty much guaranteed 1.
* Aesthetics: Well, consideringhe's he’s not humanoid in the slightest I'll I’ll have to say 1. And he is a little scaly looking...
scaly-looking...
* Motivation: Well... He truly believes that conquest is good for his people...let's let’s say 3.
* Characterization:He's He’s a king and he's he’s not afraid to be dirty when he has to. Pretty much a 3.
* Contentness:He's He’s not exactly laughing with glee as they mow down the human infidels, but he likes it. 2.
* Morality:There's There’s the true white, the true black, and all the grays in between. 2.
* Species: Krisil
* Gender: Krisil
* Age:
* Role:
* Aesthetics: Well, considering
* Motivation: Well... He truly believes that conquest is good for his people...
* Characterization:
* Contentness:
* Morality:
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How about Miles Edgeworth from ''Franchise/AceAttorney''? How likely was his Heel Face Turn in the first place?
* Species: Irrelevant in the Ace Attorney universe
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Young Adult, 4
* Role: Could be considered Phoenix's "Rival Turned Evil" (though he is definitely an Anti-Villain at worst), 5
* Aesthetics: Definitely attractive, 5
* Motivation: Pratically screams "Well-Intentioned Extremist!", 4
* Characterization: Very honorable and worthy opponent, 4
* Contentness: Hard to say. Seems to be doing well, but deep down is haunted by his past and possibly his actions as a prosecutor. I'll go with 4.
* Morality: This is a difficult one. I'll leave this out for now.
* Species: Irrelevant in the Ace Attorney universe
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: Young Adult, 4
* Role: Could be considered Phoenix's "Rival Turned Evil" (though he is definitely an Anti-Villain at worst), 5
* Aesthetics: Definitely attractive, 5
* Motivation: Pratically screams "Well-Intentioned Extremist!", 4
* Characterization: Very honorable and worthy opponent, 4
* Contentness: Hard to say. Seems to be doing well, but deep down is haunted by his past and possibly his actions as a prosecutor. I'll go with 4.
* Morality: This is a difficult one. I'll leave this out for now.
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How about Miles Edgeworth from ''Franchise/AceAttorney''? How likely was hisHeel Face Heel-Face Turn in the first place?
* Species: Irrelevant in theAce Attorney ''Ace Attorney'' universe
* Gender:Male, Male. 2
* Age: YoungAdult, Adult. 4
* Role: Could be consideredPhoenix's "Rival Phoenix’s Rival Turned Evil" Evil (though he is definitely an Anti-Villain at worst), worst) 5
* Aesthetics: Definitelyattractive, attractive. 5
* Motivation: Pratically screams"Well-Intentioned Extremist!", Well-Intentioned Extremist! 4
* Characterization: Very honorable and worthyopponent, opponent. 4
* Contentness: Hard to say. Seems to be doing well, but deep down is haunted by his past and possibly his actions as a prosecutor.I'll I’ll go with 4.
* Morality: This is a difficult one.I'll I’ll leave this out for now.
How about Miles Edgeworth from ''Franchise/AceAttorney''? How likely was his
* Species: Irrelevant in the
* Gender:
* Age: Young
* Role: Could be considered
* Aesthetics: Definitely
* Motivation: Pratically screams
* Characterization: Very honorable and worthy
* Contentness: Hard to say. Seems to be doing well, but deep down is haunted by his past and possibly his actions as a prosecutor.
* Morality: This is a difficult one.
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Spike from [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy the Vampire Slayer]]. Was his HeelFaceTurn predictable?:
* Species: Vampire, 2
* Gender: Male, 2
* Species: Vampire, 2
* Gender: Male, 2
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Spike from [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy the Vampire Slayer]].''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''. Was his HeelFaceTurn predictable?:
* Species:Vampire, Vampire. 2
* Gender:Male, Male. 2
* Species:
* Gender:
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* Motivation: For doing evil: he is unscrupolous and has precise goals, so 2.
* Characterization: As the story proceeds, Spike gets his own [[RoundedCharacter characterization in the round]], so it's a 5.
* Contentness: Being [[EvilFeelsGood evil is wonderful]] and being badass is even better, especially with a [[BadassLongcoat fitting coat]]. Except that removed traumas and low social appreciation are heavy burdens to carry. Lots of denial about it do not help. Being unable to do what you exist for doing also doesn't help. Life sucks. Angst ensues. That's a straight 5.
* Morality of the story: Gray and Gray, as summed up at the end of "Lie To Me". 3
* Idealism: Oh, [[ThePowerOfLove that warm energy pervading your heart]]! And the power of a nice ''take that'' to society, when in the end you prove to be better than all those [[SarcasmMode nice people]] that spit on you! And the disarming force of heart-felt redemption! 5!
Result: 30/10 = '''3'''. It was an exact 50/50 chance, and Spike's luck just happened to favor the side of good.
Also on the topic of Buffy, let's take a gander at Faith's original Face Heel Turn, shall we?
* Characterization: As the story proceeds, Spike gets his own [[RoundedCharacter characterization in the round]], so it's a 5.
* Contentness: Being [[EvilFeelsGood evil is wonderful]] and being badass is even better, especially with a [[BadassLongcoat fitting coat]]. Except that removed traumas and low social appreciation are heavy burdens to carry. Lots of denial about it do not help. Being unable to do what you exist for doing also doesn't help. Life sucks. Angst ensues. That's a straight 5.
* Morality of the story: Gray and Gray, as summed up at the end of "Lie To Me". 3
* Idealism: Oh, [[ThePowerOfLove that warm energy pervading your heart]]! And the power of a nice ''take that'' to society, when in the end you prove to be better than all those [[SarcasmMode nice people]] that spit on you! And the disarming force of heart-felt redemption! 5!
Result: 30/10 = '''3'''. It was an exact 50/50 chance, and Spike's luck just happened to favor the side of good.
Also on the topic of Buffy, let's take a gander at Faith's original Face Heel Turn, shall we?
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* Motivation: For doing evil: he is unscrupolous unscrupulous and has precise goals, so 2.
* Characterization: As the story proceeds, Spike gets his own [[RoundedCharacter characterization in the round]], soit's it’s a 5.
* Contentness: Being [[EvilFeelsGood evil is wonderful]] and being badass is even better, especially with a [[BadassLongcoat fitting coat]]. Except that removed traumas and low social appreciation are heavy burdens to carry. Lots of denial about it do not help. Being unable to do what you exist for doing alsodoesn't doesn’t help. Life sucks. Angst ensues. That's That’s a straight 5.
* Morality of the story: Gray and Gray, as summed up at the end of"Lie “Lie To Me".Me”. 3
* Idealism: Oh, [[ThePowerOfLove that warm energy pervading your heart]]! And the power of a nice''take that'' “TakeThat” to society, when in the end you prove to be better than all those [[SarcasmMode nice people]] that spit on you! And the disarming force of heart-felt redemption! 5!
Result: 30/10 = '''3'''. It was an exact 50/50 chance, andSpike's Spike’s luck just happened to favor the side of good.
Also on the topic of Buffy, let's Now let’s take a gander at Faith's Faith’s original Face Heel Face-Heel Turn, shall we?
* Characterization: As the story proceeds, Spike gets his own [[RoundedCharacter characterization in the round]], so
* Contentness: Being [[EvilFeelsGood evil is wonderful]] and being badass is even better, especially with a [[BadassLongcoat fitting coat]]. Except that removed traumas and low social appreciation are heavy burdens to carry. Lots of denial about it do not help. Being unable to do what you exist for doing also
* Morality of the story: Gray and Gray, as summed up at the end of
* Idealism: Oh, [[ThePowerOfLove that warm energy pervading your heart]]! And the power of a nice
Result: 30/10 = '''3'''. It was an exact 50/50 chance, and
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* Age: This troper isn't exactly sure, but I'd put it at sixteen/seventeen: teenager. 4.
* Role: She's not exactly a freelancer, so I'd put her as second-in-command (everybody considers her Slayer Number Two). 5.
* Role: She's not exactly a freelancer, so I'd put her as second-in-command (everybody considers her Slayer Number Two). 5.
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* Age: This troper isn't isn’t exactly sure, but I'd put I’dput it at sixteen/seventeen: teenager. 4.
* Role:She's She’s not exactly a freelancer, so I'd I’d put her as second-in-command (everybody considers her Slayer Number Two). 5.
* Role:
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* Motivation: [[BecauseDestinySaysSo Because it's her duty as the Slayer]] to kill only the evil and not the innocent. I'd put it under "habit"; it's what she was trained to do, after all. 4.
* Characterization: Faith is the DEFINITION of 'Bordering on hubris: Hotheaded, arrogant, likes to play with dangerous stuff'. 4.
* Contentness: She really does enjoy every minute of slaying, but slaying is still killing, and that's the part she likes. Also the stealing. And she lives in a dank old motel. 2.
* Morality of the story: As the troper above stated, "Lie to Me" basically shouted that BTVS is GreyAndGrayMorality. 4.
* Idealism: Personally I feel that it's more cynical than idealistic, although there are elements of both. Is a 3 allowed? 3.
* Characterization: Faith is the DEFINITION of 'Bordering on hubris: Hotheaded, arrogant, likes to play with dangerous stuff'. 4.
* Contentness: She really does enjoy every minute of slaying, but slaying is still killing, and that's the part she likes. Also the stealing. And she lives in a dank old motel. 2.
* Morality of the story: As the troper above stated, "Lie to Me" basically shouted that BTVS is GreyAndGrayMorality. 4.
* Idealism: Personally I feel that it's more cynical than idealistic, although there are elements of both. Is a 3 allowed? 3.
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* Motivation: [[BecauseDestinySaysSo Because it's it’s her duty as the Slayer]] to kill only the evil and not the innocent. I'd I’d put it under "habit"; it's “habit”; it’s what she was trained to do, after all. 4.
* Characterization: Faith is the DEFINITION of'Bordering “Bordering on hubris: Hotheaded, arrogant, likes to play with dangerous stuff'. stuff.” 4.
* Contentness: She really does enjoy every minute of slaying, but slaying is still killing, andthat's that’s the part she likes. Also the stealing. And she lives in a dank old motel. 2.
* Morality of the story: As the troper above stated,"Lie “Lie to Me" Me” basically shouted that BTVS is GreyAndGrayMorality. 4.
* Idealism: Personally I feel thatit's it’s more cynical than idealistic, although there are elements of both. Is a 3 allowed? 3.
* Characterization: Faith is the DEFINITION of
* Contentness: She really does enjoy every minute of slaying, but slaying is still killing, and
* Morality of the story: As the troper above stated,
* Idealism: Personally I feel that
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Breakdown from ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'' has several PetTheDog moments so odds are that he'll eventually become an Autobot:
* Species: Cybertronian/Alien-robot, 2
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: He acts like someone middle-aged, 3
* Role: Serves as the Decepticons' [[TheBrute Brute]], 3
* Aesthetics: Has an EyepatchOfPower after getting one of his optics ripped out, 2
* Motivation: His motives aren't said out loud, but he seems to be loyal to Megatron, 5
* Characterization: NobleDemon, 4
* Contentness: Seems to be doing okay, but not great, 3
* Morality: BlackAndWhiteMorality, 2
* Idealism: Middle of the road when it comes to idealism, 3
Result: 29/10 = 2.9 Breakdown almost reaches 50/50. Whether he'll go through a HeelFaceTurn is in question; only time will tell. [[spoiler: He got killed before he could change sides.]]
* Species: Cybertronian/Alien-robot, 2
* Gender: Male, 2
* Age: He acts like someone middle-aged, 3
* Role: Serves as the Decepticons' [[TheBrute Brute]], 3
* Aesthetics: Has an EyepatchOfPower after getting one of his optics ripped out, 2
* Motivation: His motives aren't said out loud, but he seems to be loyal to Megatron, 5
* Characterization: NobleDemon, 4
* Contentness: Seems to be doing okay, but not great, 3
* Morality: BlackAndWhiteMorality, 2
* Idealism: Middle of the road when it comes to idealism, 3
Result: 29/10 = 2.9 Breakdown almost reaches 50/50. Whether he'll go through a HeelFaceTurn is in question; only time will tell. [[spoiler: He got killed before he could change sides.]]
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Okay, the last episode of ''Manga/Brave10'' is nearly out and let's see if Anastasia will find her way to eventually become Face once more after whammy Heel turn in episode 9. [[OnTheNextEpisodeOfCatchPhrase Bring it on!]]
* Species: In a world where everyone is human... well this doesn't count.
* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: Young Adult. Definitely younger than Yukimura who's more Middle-Aged. 4.
* Role: TheDarkChick of Hanzo's FiveBadBand. 4.
* Aesthetics: Uh, she's the MsFanservice and has the sexy voice of Creator/YuuAsakawa. 5.
* Motivation: At this point, she claims to be a SocialDarwinist in believing only the strong survives. 3.
* Characterization: For the moment, she seems to take the mantle of LawfulEvil very much. 3.
* Contentness: Life's hard, yeah, but she certainly doesn't come as the angsty type, but if the Jinpachi encounter is to be taken note, she could be secretly angsting. Fine, 4.5.
* Morality: Hmm... hard to peg. BlackAndGrayMorality seems to be in her mindset and seems to hold true (Black = Hanzo's group, Grey = Everyone else). 1.
* Idealism: 3. It's pretty balanced though.
Result: 30.5/9: 3.38. Well I guess like it or not, she's going to have to turn Face again and help out fulfill Yukimura's prediction.
End Result: Yes she did stop being a Heel, but she just doesn't feel like returning after betraying the team, but is definitely hanging around with another good free spirit Jinpachi. So... success?
* Species: In a world where everyone is human... well this doesn't count.
* Gender: Female, 4
* Age: Young Adult. Definitely younger than Yukimura who's more Middle-Aged. 4.
* Role: TheDarkChick of Hanzo's FiveBadBand. 4.
* Aesthetics: Uh, she's the MsFanservice and has the sexy voice of Creator/YuuAsakawa. 5.
* Motivation: At this point, she claims to be a SocialDarwinist in believing only the strong survives. 3.
* Characterization: For the moment, she seems to take the mantle of LawfulEvil very much. 3.
* Contentness: Life's hard, yeah, but she certainly doesn't come as the angsty type, but if the Jinpachi encounter is to be taken note, she could be secretly angsting. Fine, 4.5.
* Morality: Hmm... hard to peg. BlackAndGrayMorality seems to be in her mindset and seems to hold true (Black = Hanzo's group, Grey = Everyone else). 1.
* Idealism: 3. It's pretty balanced though.
Result: 30.5/9: 3.38. Well I guess like it or not, she's going to have to turn Face again and help out fulfill Yukimura's prediction.
End Result: Yes she did stop being a Heel, but she just doesn't feel like returning after betraying the team, but is definitely hanging around with another good free spirit Jinpachi. So... success?
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Breakdown from ''WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime'' has several PetTheDog moments, so odds are that he’ll eventually become an Autobot:
* Species: Cybertronian/Alien-robot. 2
* Gender: Male. 2
* Age: He acts like someone middle-aged. 3
* Role: Serves as the Decepticons’ [[TheBrute Brute]]. 3
* Aesthetics: Has an EyepatchOfPower after getting one of his optics ripped out. 2
* Motivation: His motives aren’t said out loud, but he seems to be loyal to Megatron. 5
* Characterization: NobleDemon. 4
* Contentness: Seems to be doing okay, but not great. 3
* Morality: BlackAndWhiteMorality. 2
* Idealism: Middle of the road when it comes to idealism. 3
Result: 29/10 = 2.9 Breakdown almost reaches 50/50. Whether he’ll go through a HeelFaceTurn is in question; only time will tell. [[spoiler: He got killed before he could change sides.]]
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Okay, the last episode of ''Manga/Brave10'' is nearly out and
* Species: In a world where everyone is human... well this
* Gender:
* Age: Young Adult. Definitely younger than Yukimura
* Role: TheDarkChick of
* Aesthetics: Uh,
* Motivation: At this point, she claims to be a SocialDarwinist in believing only the strong
* Characterization: For the moment, she seems to take up the mantle of LawfulEvil very much. 3.
* Contentness:
* Morality: Hmm... hard to peg. BlackAndGrayMorality seems to be in her mindset and seems to hold true (Black =
* Idealism: 3.
Result: 30.5/9: 3.38. Well I guess like it or not,
End Result: Yes she did stop being a Heel, but she just