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[[WMG: Deoxys' attack forme's incredible strength can be attributed to its speed]]
The whips on its arms look pretty threatening, but they certainly don't look like they'd be the strongest things in the Pokemon universe. The reason they do so much damage is that, with a speed stat of 150, it lashes them so fast that it can crush bones.
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[[WMG: We won't get remakes of Ruby and Sapphire, but instead yet another sequels.]]
Why not? Set them into BW time, and fill the gaps. The only thing is that likely there would be an extra quest (or limited to post-game) for trades with Unova. I mean, Kanto was far enough... Unova is even further. A normal trade wouldn't make a damn sense.

Also cue ribbons and contests stats. Cue Feebas rage and Prism Scale not appearing until post-game or not appearing at all. Feebas appearance should be nerfed, though. That was ridiculous! I never found a wild Feebas outside of Unova.
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[[WMG: Steven Stone is [[HeroicAlbino albino.]]]]
His eyes are blue, his hair is practically white, and he wears lots of really long, dark clothing--on a tropical island, no less. Quite possibly, he has to wear the clothes he does to keep the sun off.


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* [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Gallade]] was developed by the line to cater to would-be trainers put off by the possibility of [[DroppedABridgetOnHim Bridget-drop]], and/or those looking for a more action-hero type pokemon.

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* [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Gallade]] was developed by the line to cater to would-be trainers put off by the possibility of [[DroppedABridgetOnHim Bridget-drop]], and/or those looking for a more action-hero type pokemon.Pokemon.



[[WMG: In the Hoenn games, the player is being manipulated by [[PokemonRedAndBlue Team Rocket]].]]

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Wallace had a type advantage over Steven; 2/3 of Steven's team are rock and ground, and weak to all of Wallace's team. The only problems are Metagross and Skamory, and Metagross can be dealt with using Earthquake (which 2 of Wallace's team has), and Skarmory can just be hit repeatedly. Wallace beat Steven because of his chosen type; the only way for Steven to get his title back is to powerlevel his team or get some new pokemon.

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Wallace had a type advantage over Steven; 2/3 of Steven's team are rock and ground, and weak to all of Wallace's team. The only problems are Metagross and Skamory, and Metagross can be dealt with using Earthquake (which 2 of Wallace's team has), and Skarmory can just be hit repeatedly. Wallace beat Steven because of his chosen type; the only way for Steven to get his title back is to powerlevel his team or get some new pokemon. Pokemon.



[[WMG: There's a "Type theme" in [[PokemonRedAndBlue the Kanto gang]].]]

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[[WMG: There's a "Type theme" in [[PokemonRedAndBlue [[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue the Kanto gang]].]]



Junichi Masuda said that Hoenn was his favorite region, and he wants to do something special with it. All generation have usually been contemporaneous with each other, Gen I and II, Gen II and IV, but Gen V stands alone. Any Pokemon traded to it, especially if it was migrated to Gen IV from a Gen III game, says it "Traveled a long way through time", and it's accepted that these games are at least a few years after Gen IV, maybe a good 3 or 4, with Black 2 and White 2 [[TimeSkip pushing the bar]] to 5 or 6 years in total. Game Freak seems to be taking different turns now, instead of getting an UpdatedRerelease of Pokemon Black and White in the form of Grey, we were met with Black 2 and White 2, sequels to Black and White. It would make sense that the something "special" Junichi Masuda wanted to do is make a Hoenn centered game that, instead of being a remake, is a sequel to the original R/S/E, complete with a few new Gym Leaders, a different plot involving different Pokemon, and different experiences to greet new and old players alike. And of course, [[OneGameForThePriceofTwo two versions like always]].

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Junichi Masuda said that Hoenn was his favorite region, and he wants to do something special with it. All generation have usually been contemporaneous with each other, Gen I and II, Gen II and IV, but Gen V stands alone. Any Pokemon traded to it, especially if it was migrated to Gen IV from a Gen III game, says it "Traveled a long way through time", and it's accepted that these games are at least a few years after Gen IV, maybe a good 3 or 4, with Black 2 and White 2 [[TimeSkip pushing the bar]] to 5 or 6 years in total. Game Freak seems to be taking different turns now, instead of getting an UpdatedRerelease of Pokemon Black and White VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite in the form of Grey, we were met with Black 2 and White 2, sequels to Black and White. It would make sense that the something "special" Junichi Masuda wanted to do is make a Hoenn centered game that, instead of being a remake, is a sequel to the original R/S/E, complete with a few new Gym Leaders, a different plot involving different Pokemon, and different experiences to greet new and old players alike. And of course, [[OneGameForThePriceofTwo two versions like always]].


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** Alternately, we will get normal remakes of them, and then a Black 2 & White 2 styled remake after that. Apart from CashCowFranchise making it totally plausible, that would definitely take "something special" UpToEleven. To say nothing of the fact that [=FRLG=] and even [=HGSS=] stuck pretty closely to the games they were remakes of, so many fans are probably expecting regular remakes anyway.

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** * Alternately, we will get normal remakes of them, and then a Black 2 & White 2 styled remake after that. Apart from CashCowFranchise making it totally plausible, that would definitely take "something special" UpToEleven. To say nothing of the fact that [=FRLG=] and even [=HGSS=] stuck pretty closely to the games they were remakes of, so many fans are probably expecting regular remakes anyway.
* Also, for trading between the Gen 5 games, there could be a Time Machine-styled thing, like how Gens 1 & 2 traded, with a normal trading room for the other Hoenn remakes. That would allow the "traveled a long way through time" thing to still make sense without neglecting the Gen 3 games.
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* By the same vein, perhaps Banette existed before Shuppet.
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* Mt. Pyre has a small room which is filled with 65% Dusclops, 15% Shuppet on TerraRuby (vice-versa in AquaSapphire) and 20% Chimecho; all at Lv. 20-30. It also appears in the middle of the pre-National game, used by a generic Trainer.

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* Mt. Pyre has a small room which is filled with 65% Dusclops, 15% Shuppet on TerraRuby (vice-versa in AquaSapphire) and 20% Chimecho; all at Lv. 20-30. It (Chimecho) also appears in the middle of the pre-National game, used by a generic Trainer.
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* Southern Island would be accessible without event, and therefore the non-roaming Lati@s would have its level be raised to 65. If you happen to knockout the roaming one, beating E4 does the work as always - though instead of usual Lv. 40 it's Lv. 55.
* Opposite mascot would be available post-game at Jagged Pass, similarly to Groudon in Emerald. At Lv. 75. Similarly to roaming Lati@s, if you knock it at Cave of Origin, you can rechallenge it after beating E4, albeit at Lv. 60. Rayquaza is found at Lv. 80; on-par with Arceus.

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* Southern Island would be accessible without event, and therefore the non-roaming Lati@s would have its level be raised to 65.65 (70 in post-National rematch as Southern Island doesn't require Champion status). If you happen to knockout the roaming one, beating E4 does the work as always - though instead of usual Lv. 40 it's Lv. 55.
* Opposite version mascot would be available post-game at Jagged Pass, similarly to Groudon in Emerald. At Lv. 75. Similarly to roaming Lati@s, if you knock your version mascot it at Cave of Origin, you can rechallenge it after beating E4, albeit at Lv. 60. Rayquaza is found at Lv. 80; on-par with Arceus.
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(The non-Hoenn Dex mons location are still in progress, the only thing left is Unova Pokémon, all other mons are done. And my imagination can go wild 'n crazy, so stuff may not make sense when I publish the link)

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(The non-Hoenn Dex mons location are still in progress, the only thing left is Unova Pokémon, all other mons are done. And my imagination can go wild 'n crazy, so stuff may not make sense when I publish the link) link. Link is required due to sheer size of the text)

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*** Who said legendaries in the game are unique? You just met only one of their species. The games could have more than one, but you met only that one.


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What If in case of a Hoenn games having all 649 Pokémon.

All Pokémon in the Hoenn Pokédex would be almost unchanged (and mainly based on RS, but with some "ideas" from Emerald) and post-National Pokémon from Emerald also would be the same. No phenomena would appear, though, as they're native to Unova, neither are seasons. Also, there was no Old or Good Rod in Unova (and Super wasn't available until post-game), therefore limiting Pokémon. Champion? What about double against both Wallace and Steven? I didn't heard of law in Pokémon world that prohibits this.

You can sail to Southern Islands and Birth Island instantly, other places need Champion title.

Changes to Hoenn Pokémon:
*The Hoenn starter neither you nor your rival choose is available post-game from Prof. Birch. You need to catch at least 40 Pokémon, though. The Hoenn starter your rival choose is acquired from rival himself/herself, albeit only after catching the opposite version mascot and catching 65 Pokémon.
*Seedot and Lotad are available without mixing records, but they appear at 1% in the version they wouldn't normally appear.
*To make life less painful, Shedinja appears used by a Bug Maniac (stronger version of Bug Catcher) in late game. He also says that it's related to Nincada, but nothing more.
*Sableye would appear normally in Sapphire remake (called AquaSapphire from now) and Sky Pillar-only in Ruby remake (called TerraRuby from now) (at 3%); vice-versa for Mawile.
*Zangoose and Seviper appear in swarm in AquaSapphire and TerraRuby, respectively (with 10% of appearing; the other 9% from originals goes to Seedot in TerraRuby and Lotad in AquaSapphire). Swarm eliminates the chance of the other one appearing (since they're lethal rivals).
*Lunatone appears in Meteor Falls at night, and Solrock at day. Was the time better than it was, they could implement that in originals.
*Claw and Root fossils are exactly the same as in Emerald; ie. the not chosen one is available in Desert Underpass after E4.
*Beauty is now slightly easier to raise and Feebas is '''no longer found on only 6 tiles''', instead appearing 1% normally and 5% during swarm. Prism Scale, while still usable, cannot be acquired without Unova games.
*Mt. Pyre has a small room which is filled with 65% Dusclops, 15% Shuppet on TerraRuby (vice-versa in AquaSapphire) and 20% Chimecho; all at Lv. 20-30. It also appears in the middle of the pre-National game, used by a generic Trainer.
*Snorunt appears everywhere in Shoal Cave, albeit at only 1%.
*Southern Island would be accessible without event, and therefore the non-roaming Lati@s would have its level be raised to 65. If you happen to knockout the roaming one, beating E4 does the work as always - though instead of usual Lv. 40 it's Lv. 55.
*Opposite mascot would be available post-game at Jagged Pass, similarly to Groudon in Emerald. At Lv. 75. Similarly to roaming Lati@s, if you knock it at Cave of Origin, you can rechallenge it after beating E4, albeit at Lv. 60. Rayquaza is found at Lv. 80; on-par with Arceus.
*Jirachi is somehow hard. For first, you need to acquire Waterfall and National Pokédex. You go to Meteor Falls. There is an extra room with some inscription that says some stuff. Then, you need to bring Cleffa, Clefairy and Clefable. After that, bring Staryu and Starmie. Next is Lunatone and Solrock. Then you go for Jigglypuff family. Another mons are... all Regis (found in the same place, the order of Relicanth and Wailord can be either). And last, but not least - Mew. After all that work, Jirachi appears out of nowhere in overworld. It's a scripted event with a Lv. 45 Jirachi. Why that hard/tedious? Because Jirachi ''never'' was given an in-game location.
*Remember that professor in Meteor Falls? Well, later (ie. 4 badges, you can have 3 at best when visiting that) you can meet him at Rustboro in Devon Corporation building. Show him a Deoxys, and he will go to Meteor Falls again. Go there, some talk will happen and he will use his stuff to reveal a small hole, containing a meteorite to change Deoxys formes. As there is only one for all formes, a dialogue box will pop up asking which forme you want. Oh, and Briney proposes you sail to Birth Island after you become Champion. Similarly to the Lati@s, level is raised, to 65.
*Pokémon evolving via trade evolve now in a place you can access after catching 120 Pokémon in Hoenn Pokédex. It doesn't have name and it's located south of Hoenn; that place emits energy waves that evolve them. In case it needs an item, just give it like if you were evolving eg. Gligar.

(The non-Hoenn Dex mons location are still in progress, the only thing left is Unova Pokémon, all other mons are done. And my imagination can go wild 'n crazy, so stuff may not make sense when I publish the link)
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[[WMG:Going with the guess above, the remade version of Ruby and Sapphire will be midquels.]]
A midquel is a work that happens between two other (in this case, Generation IV and BW). You will be able to trade with the Hoenn remakes normally - after receiving Pokédex, but to trade with Unova games you will have to do more (as they're set in future from point of the remakes). You would meet younger Ghetsis, before he became evil ([[CompleteMonster if that's even possible...]]), before he brainwashed N. You maybe would get information about his motives and so on, and how he formed Team Plasma (because there is no way N did that on his own). The Dex wouldn't change, as there's no reason (evo stuff for new evolutions of Pokémon in regional Pokédex and incenses would be post-National, and there is no Tangela or its variants in Hoenn Dex, I think...).

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[[WMG: Claydol was created first, then they somehow reproduced Baltoy]]
Because Baltoy evolving into something that's already created does not make sense.
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*Also, May is far more well known due to being a main character in the Pokemon Advanced Generation anime.
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** Alternately, we will get normal remakes of them, and then a Black 2 & White 2 styled remake after that. Apart from CashCowFranchise making it totally plausible, that would definitely take "something special" UpToEleven. To say nothing of the fact that [=FRLG=] and even [=HGSS=] stuck pretty closely to the games they were remakes of, so many fans are probably expecting regular remakes anyway.

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When shown with starters, the female player character is usually shown with a member of the Torchic line, and The male pc is usually shown with a member of the Mudkip line.

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When shown with starters, the female player character is usually shown with a member of the Torchic line, and The male pc is usually shown with a member of the Mudkip line. That set up only happens when the girl is chosen. Also while both of them are disliked as rivals, people tend to find rival-May slightly more annoying (and potentially containing UnfortunateImplications but I wouldn't know) making her the SilentProtagonist and HeroicMime would get rid of that.
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[[WMG: If a canon protagonist for r/s/e is ever revealed, it will be May, not Brendan.]]
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[[WMG: We won't get RSDS at all, but rather a case similar to Black and White 2]]
Junichi Masuda said that Hoenn was his favorite region, and he wants to do something special with it. All generation have usually been contemporaneous with each other, Gen I and II, Gen II and IV, but Gen V stands alone. Any Pokemon traded to it, especially if it was migrated to Gen IV from a Gen III game, says it "Traveled a long way through time", and it's accepted that these games are at least a few years after Gen IV, maybe a good 3 or 4, with Black 2 and White 2 [[TimeSkip pushing the bar]] to 5 or 6 years in total. Game Freak seems to be taking different turns now, instead of getting an UpdatedRerelease of Pokemon Black and White in the form of Grey, we were met with Black 2 and White 2, sequels to Black and White. It would make sense that the something "special" Junichi Masuda wanted to do is make a Hoenn centered game that, instead of being a remake, is a sequel to the original R/S/E, complete with a few new Gym Leaders, a different plot involving different Pokemon, and different experiences to greet new and old players alike. And of course, [[OneGameForThePriceofTwo two versions like always]].
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* [[FanFic/LatiasJourney This reminds me of another Deoxys.]] [[CompleteMonster I'm]] [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel scared...]]

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* [[FanFic/LatiasJourney This reminds me of another Deoxys.]] [[CompleteMonster I'm]] [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel [[NightmareFuel scared...]]
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**They could work around this problem by making a new story set in the region. Also, it's less of an earthquake titan and a tsunami-fish as it is a drought titan and a storm whale.
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[[WMG: We won't get [[VideoGameRemake RSDS]] due to it being TooSoon]]
* Think about it, the main plots of the games involve an earthquake titan and a big tsunami-fish. They stopped rereleasing the RS chapter of Pokemon Special due to the Tohoku earthquake and tsunami for that reason, and the last time Earthquake popped up in the anime it stopped showing up at all due to another earthquake. Alternately, they'll say 'fuck it' and release it anyway to cash in on all of us who are desperate for RSDS.
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Making Ralph Wiggum into a redirect for The Ditz as per this thread.


That was his excuse, but not his real reason. The idea of making a volcano explode in the middle of the continent in order to expand the landmass makes so little sense that he'd have to be a borderline RalphWiggum to do it. Instead, he's a {{Pyromaniac}} who just wanted to see the volcano explode. That bit with the rocket fuel was to make an example of the Space Center, since rocket fuel is derived from petroleum, which has to be mined at great environmental cost (he is an eco-terrorist, after all).

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That was his excuse, but not his real reason. The idea of making a volcano explode in the middle of the continent in order to expand the landmass makes so little sense that he'd have to be a borderline RalphWiggum an idiot to do it. Instead, he's a {{Pyromaniac}} who just wanted to see the volcano explode. That bit with the rocket fuel was to make an example of the Space Center, since rocket fuel is derived from petroleum, which has to be mined at great environmental cost (he is an eco-terrorist, after all).
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* Well, she is supposedly [[OurAngelsAreDifferent an angel]], and we all know how bizarre they are. I wouldn't be surprised if there were [[EyesDoNotBelongThere a whole lot of eyes underneath the skin.]]
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* ...If May has a Groudon and Brendan has a Kyogre, wouldn't she have to be the hero of Ruby while he's the hero of Sapphire? The [[OlympusMons legendary Pokémon]] were version exclusives prior to Emerald and all...
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* [[PokemonDiamondAndPearl Gallade]] was developed by the line to cater to would-be trainers put off by the possibility of [[DroppedABridgetOnHim Bridget-drop]], and/or those looking for a more action-hero type pokemon.

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* [[PokemonDiamondAndPearl [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Gallade]] was developed by the line to cater to would-be trainers put off by the possibility of [[DroppedABridgetOnHim Bridget-drop]], and/or those looking for a more action-hero type pokemon.
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Why go to all this trouble? As its entries show, its line is very closely connected to its trainer's feelings. Also, note that the final move learned by all forms save Gallade is ''Dream Eater''. Perhaps its motivations are similar to those of [[MemeticMolester Drowsee and Hypno]], but they're more DangerouslyGenreSavvy and know how to avoid that sort of bad reputation...

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Why go to all this trouble? As its entries show, its line is very closely connected to its trainer's feelings. Also, note that the final move learned by all forms save Gallade is ''Dream Eater''. Perhaps its motivations are similar to those of [[MemeticMolester Drowsee Drowzee and Hypno]], but they're more DangerouslyGenreSavvy and know how to avoid that sort of bad reputation...
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[[WMG: Maxie's plan to erupt Mount Chimney was not, strictly speaking, about expanding the landmass.]]
That was his excuse, but not his real reason. The idea of making a volcano explode in the middle of the continent in order to expand the landmass makes so little sense that he'd have to be a borderline RalphWiggum to do it. Instead, he's a {{Pyromaniac}} who just wanted to see the volcano explode. That bit with the rocket fuel was to make an example of the Space Center, since rocket fuel is derived from petroleum, which has to be mined at great environmental cost (he is an eco-terrorist, after all).
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** Excluding the business about disbanding, then, Team Rocket just has their fingers in all the pies.

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As stated above, Red's dummy data in Emerald has him with a Charmander and Leaf with a Bulbasaur. That makes sense, since Blue would have a Squirtle. Look at the colorings of the Pokemon in comparison to their names.

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As stated above, Red's dummy data in Emerald has him with a Charmander and Leaf with a Bulbasaur. That makes sense, since Blue would have a Squirtle. Look at the colorings of the Pokemon in comparison to their names.English names.
* This ''is'' WMG, but using their ENGLISH names would not fit in a series of JAPANESE origin. Not likely.
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[[WMG: Steven changed his team after Emerald; but before Heart Gold / Soul Silver.]]
Wallace had a type advantage over Steven; 2/3 of Steven's team are rock and ground, and weak to all of Wallace's team. The only problems are Metagross and Skamory, and Metagross can be dealt with using Earthquake (which 2 of Wallace's team has), and Skarmory can just be hit repeatedly. Wallace beat Steven because of his chosen type; the only way for Steven to get his title back is to powerlevel his team or get some new pokemon.

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