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**** Wait, there's something very wrong with this otherwise sound theory--Lucifer appeared in {{Raidou Kuzunoha vs King Abaddon}}, and the Devil Summoner games share their world with Persona's. So either something happened between Devil Summoner and Persona, or if Teddie IS Lucifer, he's taking an immensely clandestine approach to things this time around.

** There's one hole in this theory: Teddie pretty much implies that he has been in the other world since the beginning of it's existence.(When talking about that world during your first meeting with him, he says "it's always been like this" and when the true form of the other world appears after [[spoiler: Izanami]]'s defeat, he says "A long time ago, this world used to look like this.") Since the other world reflects the collective minds of humanity, one would presume that it has existed for a long time...certainly longer than the Main Character has been alive. After all, humanity has been around for a long time. If that were the case, than it would be impossible for Teddie to be the Main Character's shadow, since he predates the Main Character.

** There's one hole in this theory: Teddie pretty much implies that he has been in the other world since the beginning of it's existence.(When talking about that world during your first meeting with him, he says something about that world and follows it up with "It's always been like this" and when the true form of the other world appears after [[spoiler: Izanami]]'s defeat, he says "A long time ago, this world used to look this.") Since the other world reflects the collective minds of humanity, one would presume that it has existed for a long time...certainly longer than the Main Character has been alive. After all, humanity has been around for a long time. If that were the case, than it would be impossible for Teddie to be the Main Character's shadow, since he predates the Main Character.

** There's one hole in this theory: Teddie pretty much implies that he has been in the other world since the beginning of it's existence.(When talking about that world during your first meeting with him, he says that it's "always been this way" and when the true form of the other world appears after [[spoiler: Izanami]]'s defeat, he says "A long time ago, this world used to look this.") Since the other world reflects the collective minds of humanity, one would presume that it has existed for a long time...certainly longer than the Main Character has been alive. After all, humanity has been around for a long time. If that were the case, than it would be impossible for Teddie to be the Main Character's shadow, since he predates the Main Character.

* A moment of Fridge Brilliance actually gives this some credence from within the game. Teddies Persona is of the Star Arcana. One of the things associated with the Star Arcana: Hope.
* Another thing worth considering; Teddie's Social Link is based around his fear that there is he has no 'real self'. It's no stretch of the imagination that this kind of crisis is faced by everyone who has the Wild Card ability. When you can change 'who you are' at will it doesn't take much to get confused.

So, this leaves us with Yosuke and Teddie, and Gluttony and Greed. Now I am stuck. But this theory sounded really promising a few minuets ago.

** This sounds pretty credible. Hooray!

*** Especially [[{{ReverseTrap}}the]] [[{{LesYay}} girls]].

** The Shiroganes/Kuzunohas are a precocious bunch. They were putting the P3 Protagonist through some on the job training.

[[WMG:Yosuke has TWO Shadows, but only directly created one]]
Let's think about this for a second. We all know that Teddie was created as a result of a Shadow becoming in-sync with human loneliness, but he never states how many humans it took. Shadow Yosuke's gimmick was that its creator's greatest fear was to be alone. Somewhere between Yosuke going to Inaba and gaining Jiraiya as his Persona, Pre-bear Teddie became attuned to Yosuke's loneliness, and became the cutesy, lovable, HandsomeLech who gets a CrowningMomentofAwesome with his LastStand (even if it's a subverted LastStand)

[[WMG: Teddie is Theodore Roosevelt's shadow.]]
Perhaps Roosevelt didn't want to admit he liked puns?
* Alternately, he is boune of Roosevelt's denial of his softer side. He claimed to hate the nickname "Teddy", possibly due to its association with the stuffed animal and his masculine image. It makes sense that if he was suppressing a softer side, centered around false hate of the nickname, it would manifest as a shadow as something like Teddie.

[[WMG: [[RidiculouslyCuteCritter Teddie]] is the reincarnation or something of Haruhi Suzumiya.]]
Think about it. The entire thing, even [[spoiler: Izanami's]] very existance, and the MC being in Inaba at all... EVERYTHING happened because Teddie willed it so. Because he was hella [[spoiler: lonely]]. To take it further; In christianity, God created people to love him. Think about it. Teddie is just God in a [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot space-monkey-bear-suit.]] He created humanity to love him from the very beginning. [[spoiler: Izanami]] might seem to disprove this, being something Teddie would be against, but... remember, God lets bad things happen too. In fact, [[spoiler: Izanami]] is actually a device to pull people to him and his "heaven"... [[MindBlown Are you mind-fucked yet?]]

[[WMG: Teddie is the personification of the true TV-World, created by Philemon.]]
Izanami's plot of putting humanity on trial via the Midnight Channel sounds a lot like the conflict between Philemon and Nyarlathotep. She created Ameno-Sagiri from the fog representing denial, but cheated by using him to manipulate Adachi and Namatame.
Now, look back at the first WMG on this page, of Teddie being the main character's shadow. The Star Arcana, Teddie's link, is a sign of hope; the main character is the representation of hope in Izanami's test. He's also able to appear in the Velvet Room, which is usually only inhabited by the main character and Igor, who works for Philemon.
In addition to the power of the wild card and using the Velvet Room to fuse Personae, Philemon created Teddie from the unclouded version of the Midnight Channel. Because of Teddie's desire to attain the truth and help people, he became friends with the protagonist and helped him defeat Izanami. [[BatmanGambit Just as planned!]]
[[WMG: Teddie is some kind of universal shadow, made up of pieces of all human minds. His personality is most strongly influenced by the people he closely interacts with.]]
The evidence for this one is a little sparce, but the fact that he hits on everyone could be caused by Yosuke's loneliness, whereas his desire to find his true self could come from Rise. His bursts of anger come from Kanji Tatsumi and his cheerfulness comes from Nanako/Yukiko/Chie.
*So...Teddie is Nyarlathotep?
** If so, then the plot of the game shifts from "beat the evil gods" to "XanatosGambit on the part of Philemon to get what remains of Nyarlathotep to pull a HeelFaceTurn". An obvious extension of this is...
[[WMG: ...that Izanami was a jobber generated by Philemon to provide a foe for Teddy/Nyarlathotep and friends to fight]]
So that Teddy/Nyarlathotep would have a foe to HeelFaceTurn against. A consequence theory of the above guess.
*But Nyarlathotep is half of the Collective Unconscious, the destructive half, and inseparable from Philemon, the creative half. If Nyar turns good, what happens to Philemon? The Shadow of humanity might not be a job for a nice person, but if the guy currently running it leaves, what happens to all of humanity's suppressed destructive urges? ...maybe this is how Erebus came about, because I'm pretty sure in P2 Nyar covered everything he did. Which means Philemon's ruining things by switching from the relatively controllable Nyarlathotep (doesn't do much outside their little bet) to whatever will come pouring out of humanity's dark side next. WellIntentionedExtremist...or FaceHeelTurn to match Nyarlathotep's HeelFaceTurn?
[[WMG: The Main Character convinced his parents to move to Inaba.]]
Shortly after he got off the train he told his parnets how much he loved Inaba and wanted to go back there. He argued that since they were not around a lot it was good for him to be near a guardian like Dojima. And because the parents were not around a lot they did not feel much connection to where they lived currently. So they acquiesced and the Main Character got to move back to Inaba nine months later, down the street from Dojima and Nanako.
**This sounds pretty credible. Hooray!