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16th Jun '16 4:06:14 PM nombretomado
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Of course, this only exposes how colossally stupid Peter and M.J. must be to have accepted the deal after hearing his open gloating, and M.J. earns no sympathy from her tears post-changed-world if she honestly remembers everything. Also, any ''number'' of above WMG theories can be tied to this one - including the one about [[ReplacementScrappy Ca]][[CreatorsPet rl]][[RelationshipSue ie]] being Mephisto's personal [[TenchiMuyo Sak]][[TomatoInTheMirror uya]], the one about Quesada being a disguised Mephisto or having sold his soul, the various ways SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, ComicBook/SquirrelGirl, Doctor Strange, Comicbook/GhostRider, etc. can take part in the solution that undoes the damage, even the fate-of-the-universe version of the old proposed [[ComicBook/TheCloneSaga Clone Saga]] solution with Judas Traveller and Mephisto's old wager about the nature of humans. Any future Marvel editors or really good fanfic writers reading this and looking for a way to restore the marriage and the characters' integrity with an epic story, you are welcome to all of this!!

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Of course, this only exposes how colossally stupid Peter and M.J. must be to have accepted the deal after hearing his open gloating, and M.J. earns no sympathy from her tears post-changed-world if she honestly remembers everything. Also, any ''number'' of above WMG theories can be tied to this one - including the one about [[ReplacementScrappy Ca]][[CreatorsPet rl]][[RelationshipSue ie]] being Mephisto's personal [[TenchiMuyo [[Anime/TenchiMuyo Sak]][[TomatoInTheMirror uya]], the one about Quesada being a disguised Mephisto or having sold his soul, the various ways SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, ComicBook/SquirrelGirl, Doctor Strange, Comicbook/GhostRider, etc. can take part in the solution that undoes the damage, even the fate-of-the-universe version of the old proposed [[ComicBook/TheCloneSaga Clone Saga]] solution with Judas Traveller and Mephisto's old wager about the nature of humans. Any future Marvel editors or really good fanfic writers reading this and looking for a way to restore the marriage and the characters' integrity with an epic story, you are welcome to all of this!!
5th Mar '16 4:14:50 PM nombretomado
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Spider-Man is one of Marvel's quintessential human heroes, in a similar vein to CaptainAmerica. An ordinary human who comes to obtain what amounts to peak-human or base-superhuman power, and strives to use this power to do the right thing. Even more so in Spidey's case because away from the mask Peter Parker's life isn't exactly remarkable. He and this beautiful model/actress girl Mary Jane Watson have grown from neighbors to best friends to on-and-off lovers to husband and wife over the course of the comic canon, and their loyalty to each other most of the way through is remarkable. Their relationship, off-and-on, has been iconic for over forty years, and Mary Jane is one of the first things you think of in association with Spider-Man. Theirs is [[HappilyMarried an example of love the world could strive to look up to]], and especially in the Marvel-verse after Peter's public unmasking, religious folk could argue it's an example from {{God}} Himself. And yes, the God of Abraham, the Most High, the omnipotent Creator that makes every other storied being that ever calls itself a god look like a piss-ant in comparison, ''does'' exist in the Marvel Universe, under the name of "the One-Above-All". He even told Peter to be at May's bedside as she dies, implying that the reason every person who should've been able to heal her in seconds suddenly got their hands tied and became useless is because it was simply time to let her go and '''move on'''.

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Spider-Man is one of Marvel's quintessential human heroes, in a similar vein to CaptainAmerica.ComicBook/CaptainAmerica. An ordinary human who comes to obtain what amounts to peak-human or base-superhuman power, and strives to use this power to do the right thing. Even more so in Spidey's case because away from the mask Peter Parker's life isn't exactly remarkable. He and this beautiful model/actress girl Mary Jane Watson have grown from neighbors to best friends to on-and-off lovers to husband and wife over the course of the comic canon, and their loyalty to each other most of the way through is remarkable. Their relationship, off-and-on, has been iconic for over forty years, and Mary Jane is one of the first things you think of in association with Spider-Man. Theirs is [[HappilyMarried an example of love the world could strive to look up to]], and especially in the Marvel-verse after Peter's public unmasking, religious folk could argue it's an example from {{God}} Himself. And yes, the God of Abraham, the Most High, the omnipotent Creator that makes every other storied being that ever calls itself a god look like a piss-ant in comparison, ''does'' exist in the Marvel Universe, under the name of "the One-Above-All". He even told Peter to be at May's bedside as she dies, implying that the reason every person who should've been able to heal her in seconds suddenly got their hands tied and became useless is because it was simply time to let her go and '''move on'''.
15th Jan '16 7:30:32 PM nombretomado
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Of course, this only exposes how colossally stupid Peter and M.J. must be to have accepted the deal after hearing his open gloating, and M.J. earns no sympathy from her tears post-changed-world if she honestly remembers everything. Also, any ''number'' of above WMG theories can be tied to this one - including the one about [[ReplacementScrappy Ca]][[CreatorsPet rl]][[RelationshipSue ie]] being Mephisto's personal [[TenchiMuyo Sak]][[TomatoInTheMirror uya]], the one about Quesada being a disguised Mephisto or having sold his soul, the various ways {{Deadpool}}, SquirrelGirl, Doctor Strange, Comicbook/GhostRider, etc. can take part in the solution that undoes the damage, even the fate-of-the-universe version of the old proposed [[ComicBook/TheCloneSaga Clone Saga]] solution with Judas Traveller and Mephisto's old wager about the nature of humans. Any future Marvel editors or really good fanfic writers reading this and looking for a way to restore the marriage and the characters' integrity with an epic story, you are welcome to all of this!!

to:

Of course, this only exposes how colossally stupid Peter and M.J. must be to have accepted the deal after hearing his open gloating, and M.J. earns no sympathy from her tears post-changed-world if she honestly remembers everything. Also, any ''number'' of above WMG theories can be tied to this one - including the one about [[ReplacementScrappy Ca]][[CreatorsPet rl]][[RelationshipSue ie]] being Mephisto's personal [[TenchiMuyo Sak]][[TomatoInTheMirror uya]], the one about Quesada being a disguised Mephisto or having sold his soul, the various ways {{Deadpool}}, SquirrelGirl, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, ComicBook/SquirrelGirl, Doctor Strange, Comicbook/GhostRider, etc. can take part in the solution that undoes the damage, even the fate-of-the-universe version of the old proposed [[ComicBook/TheCloneSaga Clone Saga]] solution with Judas Traveller and Mephisto's old wager about the nature of humans. Any future Marvel editors or really good fanfic writers reading this and looking for a way to restore the marriage and the characters' integrity with an epic story, you are welcome to all of this!!
15th Jan '16 7:30:24 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: {{Deadpool}} and SquirrelGirl are going to team-up, beat up Mephisto and undo One More Day.]]

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[[WMG: {{Deadpool}} SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}} and SquirrelGirl ComicBook/SquirrelGirl are going to team-up, beat up Mephisto and undo One More Day.]]
8th Nov '15 10:59:05 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: The Spider-Man from OND/BND is actually [[RedVsBlue Grif]]]]

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[[WMG: The Spider-Man from OND/BND is actually [[RedVsBlue [[Machinima/RedVsBlue Grif]]]]
5th Nov '15 8:53:42 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG:Looks like a job for TheMightyThor!]]

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[[WMG:Looks like a job for TheMightyThor!]]ComicBook/TheMightyThor!]]
26th Sep '15 8:40:47 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: OneMoreDay came from JoeQuesada trying to erase [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall 22 Brides]] from existance]]

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[[WMG: OneMoreDay ComicBook/OneMoreDay came from JoeQuesada trying to erase [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall 22 Brides]] from existance]]



[[WMG: OneMoreDay will be retconned as AllJustADream.]]

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[[WMG: OneMoreDay ComicBook/OneMoreDay will be retconned as AllJustADream.]]



First, he needs a celibate hero. He could have gone for someone who's single, but he's so enraged by his defeat that for making up for it, he decides to instead corrupt one of the most stable love relationships of the superheroic community (think of it as the little cherry on top of the cake for him). Reed and Sue Richards' marriage being public (and so much more difficult to dismantle in the eyes of the rest of the universe), he decides to erase Peter Parker's marriage. He just waited for an opportunity, and found it when Aunt May got shot. From that point, you can get back to OneMoreDay.

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First, he needs a celibate hero. He could have gone for someone who's single, but he's so enraged by his defeat that for making up for it, he decides to instead corrupt one of the most stable love relationships of the superheroic community (think of it as the little cherry on top of the cake for him). Reed and Sue Richards' marriage being public (and so much more difficult to dismantle in the eyes of the rest of the universe), he decides to erase Peter Parker's marriage. He just waited for an opportunity, and found it when Aunt May got shot. From that point, you can get back to OneMoreDay.
ComicBook/OneMoreDay.



Deadpool will be outraged at this atrocity of a retcon. Being that he has NoFourthWall, he will try and beat up JoeQuesada. Then along comes Mephisto-the true, original Mephisto. He will be pissed that his image was ruined by the [[JoeQuesada false Mephisto,]] and form an EnemyMine to get rid of it. This ends up with a CurbStompBattle, revealing Joe Quesada himself. After this, Deadpool will give a ReasonWhyYouSuckSpeech to him, and why what he did makes no freaking sense. Bonus TakeThat points if Joe admits "Bah! [[ItsAllAboutMe I don't even care what I've done to Spiderman,]] [[YoungerAndHipper I just wanted him to be cool, hip]] and available!", or even the Anvilicious "I ''never'' cared about the fanbase." Whatever the result, it will involve everything about OneMoreDay to be AllJustADream. And every writer on the block will outright ''refuse'' to let JoeQuesada change this. Giving one of the greatest fan revenge moments of all time. And it will be AWESOME.

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Deadpool will be outraged at this atrocity of a retcon. Being that he has NoFourthWall, he will try and beat up JoeQuesada. Then along comes Mephisto-the true, original Mephisto. He will be pissed that his image was ruined by the [[JoeQuesada false Mephisto,]] and form an EnemyMine to get rid of it. This ends up with a CurbStompBattle, revealing Joe Quesada himself. After this, Deadpool will give a ReasonWhyYouSuckSpeech to him, and why what he did makes no freaking sense. Bonus TakeThat points if Joe admits "Bah! [[ItsAllAboutMe I don't even care what I've done to Spiderman,]] [[YoungerAndHipper I just wanted him to be cool, hip]] and available!", or even the Anvilicious "I ''never'' cared about the fanbase." Whatever the result, it will involve everything about OneMoreDay ComicBook/OneMoreDay to be AllJustADream. And every writer on the block will outright ''refuse'' to let JoeQuesada change this. Giving one of the greatest fan revenge moments of all time. And it will be AWESOME.



[[WMG: ''OneMoreDay'' will be retconned in a quick, cheap, easy, and lazy way.]]

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[[WMG: ''OneMoreDay'' ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay'' will be retconned in a quick, cheap, easy, and lazy way.]]



[[WMG: ''OneMoreDay'' is actually just Mary Jane and Peter in Hell.]]

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[[WMG: ''OneMoreDay'' ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay'' is actually just Mary Jane and Peter in Hell.]]
26th Sep '15 8:20:52 PM nombretomado
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* As some kind of meta analogy to the fact Peter's marriage to M.J. ''is'' an important part of the character[[note]] You're free to say what you want, [[JoeQuesada Mr. Chief Executive Officer of Marvel]], it's still true.[[/note]], when some kind of shit will hit the whole Marvel fan (read: CrisisCrossover), at some point the only hope would be the help of a divine entity of some sort (ComicBook/{{Galactus}}, [[ComicBook/SecretWars Beyonder]], whatever), but... ''the god would save humanity only if he deems it worthy.'' This is the point where it got worse: in the judgment of mankind, only a strong love like the former relationship between Peter and M.J. would make the difference, except that - surprise, surprise - it's not there anymore! Then... uh, stuff happens, and at some point either the [[OneMomentInTime (results of the)]] deal with Mephisto are undone for the greater good or Peter and M.J., before the end of the world, spend [[IronicEcho one more day]] together until they finally realize they love each other, and then '''they kiss.''' Said kiss, being just what's needed in order to save the world, restores the MarvelUniverse, reverts the "Crisis" in "CrisisCrossover", and, therefore, [[MundaneMadeAwesome is quickly made]] the single greatest CrowningMomentOfAwesome in the entire Marvel multiverse.

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* As some kind of meta analogy to the fact Peter's marriage to M.J. ''is'' an important part of the character[[note]] You're free to say what you want, [[JoeQuesada Mr. Chief Executive Officer of Marvel]], it's still true.[[/note]], when some kind of shit will hit the whole Marvel fan (read: CrisisCrossover), at some point the only hope would be the help of a divine entity of some sort (ComicBook/{{Galactus}}, [[ComicBook/SecretWars Beyonder]], whatever), but... ''the god would save humanity only if he deems it worthy.'' This is the point where it got worse: in the judgment of mankind, only a strong love like the former relationship between Peter and M.J. would make the difference, except that - surprise, surprise - it's not there anymore! Then... uh, stuff happens, and at some point either the [[OneMomentInTime [[ComicBook/OneMomentInTime (results of the)]] deal with Mephisto are undone for the greater good or Peter and M.J., before the end of the world, spend [[IronicEcho one more day]] together until they finally realize they love each other, and then '''they kiss.''' Said kiss, being just what's needed in order to save the world, restores the MarvelUniverse, reverts the "Crisis" in "CrisisCrossover", and, therefore, [[MundaneMadeAwesome is quickly made]] the single greatest CrowningMomentOfAwesome in the entire Marvel multiverse.



Okay so when Otto fights Peter in Peter's mind, Otto not only makes the argument Peter is fundamentally selfish, but Peter is somehow unable to refute it. Superior also has both Ghost Peter (before he's deleted) and Mary Jane admit to themselves that they still love one another/they are each others soulmates. And thus when Otto is inevitably found out (likely because he keeps getting more violent, sloppy, and no longer has Peter's memories and will slip up when confronted with information he should know about, but somehow doesn't), the heroes of New York (plus MJ who will likely play a hand in his grand unmasking) try to figure out to get the real Peter Parker back. Through some TechnoBabble mumbo jumbo, they're able to see the mental fight Peter lost and instantly know something must be wrong because Peter Parker, as Comicbook/TheAvengers, Comicbook/FantasticFour etc. know him, is the most selfless, responsible guy on the planet. As some of the above speculate, Ghost Rider, Doctor Strange etc. start sensing the universe was changed, but can't pinpoint how. When they try to view the change all the see us the events of OneMomentInTime, wherein they hid Parker's identity. While said action did cause change, it shouldn't be enough to warrant what they sense, especially sense the physic blind spot that prevents people from uncovering the truth about Peter's ID was effectively undone in ComicBook/SpiderIsland. Eventually it's revealed that Peter and MJ were married, and the events of OneMomentInTime were placed in everyone's memory in place of what actually happened. Mephisto went out of his way to make Peter and MJ's memory of their wedding day as horrible as possible and inject petty fighting in their memory in hopes that he can prevent them forever getting back together as some of the above speculations (take your pick) for what he's truly aftter end up correct. Ock was only able to defeat Peter because the Peter in this timeline has subconscious memories of the deal and thinks of himself as unworthy, even more so than other Peters. Cue epic battle to undo everything, get the real Peter back, and obligory BadAss MJ somehow getting her revenge on Mehispto for manipulating her and taking away the love of her life.

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Okay so when Otto fights Peter in Peter's mind, Otto not only makes the argument Peter is fundamentally selfish, but Peter is somehow unable to refute it. Superior also has both Ghost Peter (before he's deleted) and Mary Jane admit to themselves that they still love one another/they are each others soulmates. And thus when Otto is inevitably found out (likely because he keeps getting more violent, sloppy, and no longer has Peter's memories and will slip up when confronted with information he should know about, but somehow doesn't), the heroes of New York (plus MJ who will likely play a hand in his grand unmasking) try to figure out to get the real Peter Parker back. Through some TechnoBabble mumbo jumbo, they're able to see the mental fight Peter lost and instantly know something must be wrong because Peter Parker, as Comicbook/TheAvengers, Comicbook/FantasticFour etc. know him, is the most selfless, responsible guy on the planet. As some of the above speculate, Ghost Rider, Doctor Strange etc. start sensing the universe was changed, but can't pinpoint how. When they try to view the change all the see us the events of OneMomentInTime, ComicBook/OneMomentInTime, wherein they hid Parker's identity. While said action did cause change, it shouldn't be enough to warrant what they sense, especially sense the physic blind spot that prevents people from uncovering the truth about Peter's ID was effectively undone in ComicBook/SpiderIsland. Eventually it's revealed that Peter and MJ were married, and the events of OneMomentInTime ComicBook/OneMomentInTime were placed in everyone's memory in place of what actually happened. Mephisto went out of his way to make Peter and MJ's memory of their wedding day as horrible as possible and inject petty fighting in their memory in hopes that he can prevent them forever getting back together as some of the above speculations (take your pick) for what he's truly aftter end up correct. Ock was only able to defeat Peter because the Peter in this timeline has subconscious memories of the deal and thinks of himself as unworthy, even more so than other Peters. Cue epic battle to undo everything, get the real Peter back, and obligory obligatory BadAss MJ somehow getting her revenge on Mehispto for manipulating her and taking away the love of her life.
23rd Sep '15 8:35:40 PM nombretomado
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* As some kind of meta analogy to the fact Peter's marriage to M.J. ''is'' an important part of the character[[note]] You're free to say what you want, [[JoeQuesada Mr. Chief Executive Officer of Marvel]], it's still true.[[/note]], when some kind of shit will hit the whole Marvel fan (read: CrisisCrossover), at some point the only hope would be the help of a divine entity of some sort ({{Galactus}}, [[ComicBook/SecretWars Beyonder]], whatever), but... ''the god would save humanity only if he deems it worthy.'' This is the point where it got worse: in the judgment of mankind, only a strong love like the former relationship between Peter and M.J. would make the difference, except that - surprise, surprise - it's not there anymore! Then... uh, stuff happens, and at some point either the [[OneMomentInTime (results of the)]] deal with Mephisto are undone for the greater good or Peter and M.J., before the end of the world, spend [[IronicEcho one more day]] together until they finally realize they love each other, and then '''they kiss.''' Said kiss, being just what's needed in order to save the world, restores the MarvelUniverse, reverts the "Crisis" in "CrisisCrossover", and, therefore, [[MundaneMadeAwesome is quickly made]] the single greatest CrowningMomentOfAwesome in the entire Marvel multiverse.

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* As some kind of meta analogy to the fact Peter's marriage to M.J. ''is'' an important part of the character[[note]] You're free to say what you want, [[JoeQuesada Mr. Chief Executive Officer of Marvel]], it's still true.[[/note]], when some kind of shit will hit the whole Marvel fan (read: CrisisCrossover), at some point the only hope would be the help of a divine entity of some sort ({{Galactus}}, (ComicBook/{{Galactus}}, [[ComicBook/SecretWars Beyonder]], whatever), but... ''the god would save humanity only if he deems it worthy.'' This is the point where it got worse: in the judgment of mankind, only a strong love like the former relationship between Peter and M.J. would make the difference, except that - surprise, surprise - it's not there anymore! Then... uh, stuff happens, and at some point either the [[OneMomentInTime (results of the)]] deal with Mephisto are undone for the greater good or Peter and M.J., before the end of the world, spend [[IronicEcho one more day]] together until they finally realize they love each other, and then '''they kiss.''' Said kiss, being just what's needed in order to save the world, restores the MarvelUniverse, reverts the "Crisis" in "CrisisCrossover", and, therefore, [[MundaneMadeAwesome is quickly made]] the single greatest CrowningMomentOfAwesome in the entire Marvel multiverse.
17th Sep '15 8:35:28 AM StFan
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[[WMG: ComicBook/OneMoreDay was masterminded by [[DeadpoolKillsTheMarvelUniverse Dreadpool.]] ]]
Dreadpool has been spending his time trying to kill the source of stories. At the end of the series [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou he goes to kill the writers.]] While DeadpoolKillsTheMarvelUniverse was released after ComicBook/OneMoreDay, that doesn't mean Dreadpool couldn't get a time machine and go back to when it was written. Why'd he do it? To kill Spiderman. Being AU!Deadpool, he knows that popular characters are [[PlotArmor immortal]]-[[DeathIsCheap no matter how many times they die, they will ALWAYS come back.]] Solution? Strip them of their popularity in one massive ''betrayal.'' By utterly [[CharacterDerailment derailing]] Spiderman, Mary Jane and even ''Mephisto'', it would lead to nobody caring about Spiderman. [[FridgeHorror And that isn't even the worse of it]]-it would create a schism that would gradually bring the downfall of Marvel Comics itself. Why wasn't Creator/JoeQuesada fired? Dreadpool is keeping him going, [[UnwittingPawn using him to force]] ComicBook/OneMoreDay to still be in continuity. Dreadpool's being travelling through our universe's history, slowly but surely derailing Creator/MarvelComics. Dreadpool's ultimate objective? [[OmnicidalManiac Completely destroy Marvel and all the universes it created]] by wrecking its stories. And he may even continue to wreck all other fictional stories, before finally [[NightmareFuel killing us off.]] Who knows how many fiction's he's ruined. All the wall bangers and dethroning moments of suck and awful, irredeemable stories-[[ParanoiaFuel How many has he masterminded?]] '''And he's loving every minu-
* Sorry for that. [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial Dreadpool didn't kill me]] [[KilledMidSentence mid-edit]] or something. [[FalseReassurance I'm just playing]] the Kayfabe that he did. [[BlatantLies I'm totally not Dreadpool.]] Could you tell me where I can find the Marvel Comics HQ? [[KillEmAll I just want to congratulate them on]]-wait, I have [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou some business to finish.]]

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[[WMG: ComicBook/OneMoreDay ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay'' was masterminded by [[DeadpoolKillsTheMarvelUniverse Dreadpool.]] ]]
Dreadpool has been spending his time trying to kill the source of stories. At the end of the series [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou he goes to kill the writers.]] While DeadpoolKillsTheMarvelUniverse ''ComicBook/DeadpoolKillsTheMarvelUniverse'' was released after ComicBook/OneMoreDay, that doesn't mean Dreadpool couldn't get a time machine and go back to when it was written. Why'd he do it? To kill Spiderman.Spider-Man. Being AU!Deadpool, he knows that popular characters are [[PlotArmor immortal]]-[[DeathIsCheap no matter how many times they die, they will ALWAYS come back.]] Solution? Strip them of their popularity in one massive ''betrayal.'' By utterly [[CharacterDerailment derailing]] Spiderman, Spider-Man, Mary Jane and even ''Mephisto'', it would lead to nobody caring about Spiderman.Spider-Man. [[FridgeHorror And that isn't even the worse of it]]-it would create a schism that would gradually bring the downfall of Marvel Comics itself. Why wasn't Creator/JoeQuesada fired? Dreadpool is keeping him going, [[UnwittingPawn using him to force]] ComicBook/OneMoreDay ''ComicBook/OneMoreDay'' to still be in continuity. Dreadpool's being travelling through our universe's history, slowly but surely derailing Creator/MarvelComics. Dreadpool's ultimate objective? [[OmnicidalManiac Completely destroy Marvel and all the universes it created]] by wrecking its stories. And he may even continue to wreck all other fictional stories, before finally [[NightmareFuel killing us off.]] Who knows how many fiction's he's ruined. All the wall bangers and dethroning moments of suck and awful, irredeemable stories-[[ParanoiaFuel How many has he masterminded?]] '''And he's loving every minu-
minu--
* Sorry for that. [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial Dreadpool didn't kill me]] [[KilledMidSentence mid-edit]] or something. [[FalseReassurance I'm just playing]] the Kayfabe that he did. [[BlatantLies I'm totally not Dreadpool.]] Could you tell me where I can find the Marvel Comics HQ? [[KillEmAll I just want to congratulate them on]]-wait, on]] -- wait, I have [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou some business to finish.]]
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