History WMG / OneMoreDay

17th Jun '17 9:27:44 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: ComicBook/OneMoreDay came from JoeQuesada trying to erase [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall 22 Brides]] from existance]]

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[[WMG: ComicBook/OneMoreDay came from JoeQuesada Creator/JoeQuesada trying to erase [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall 22 Brides]] from existance]]



* Or it's the over way around. JoeQuesada is Mephisto all along, messing with people ForTheEvulz. This is the first experiment he's done to test his power in both the fictional and real worlds.

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* Or it's the over way around. JoeQuesada Creator/JoeQuesada is Mephisto all along, messing with people ForTheEvulz. This is the first experiment he's done to test his power in both the fictional and real worlds.



[[WMG: Peter and M.J. ''will'' reconcile eventually, regardless of Creator/JoeQuesada, because their love will turn out to be vital to the entire MarvelUniverse.]]
* As some kind of meta analogy to the fact Peter's marriage to M.J. ''is'' an important part of the character[[note]] You're free to say what you want, [[JoeQuesada Mr. Chief Executive Officer of Marvel]], it's still true.[[/note]], when some kind of shit will hit the whole Marvel fan (read: CrisisCrossover), at some point the only hope would be the help of a divine entity of some sort (ComicBook/{{Galactus}}, [[ComicBook/SecretWars Beyonder]], whatever), but... ''the god would save humanity only if he deems it worthy.'' This is the point where it got worse: in the judgment of mankind, only a strong love like the former relationship between Peter and M.J. would make the difference, except that - surprise, surprise - it's not there anymore! Then... uh, stuff happens, and at some point either the [[ComicBook/OneMomentInTime (results of the)]] deal with Mephisto are undone for the greater good or Peter and M.J., before the end of the world, spend [[IronicEcho one more day]] together until they finally realize they love each other, and then '''they kiss.''' Said kiss, being just what's needed in order to save the world, restores the MarvelUniverse, reverts the "Crisis" in "CrisisCrossover", and, therefore, [[MundaneMadeAwesome is quickly made]] the single greatest CrowningMomentOfAwesome in the entire Marvel multiverse.

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[[WMG: Peter and M.J. ''will'' reconcile eventually, regardless of Creator/JoeQuesada, because their love will turn out to be vital to the entire MarvelUniverse.Franchise/MarvelUniverse.]]
* As some kind of meta analogy to the fact Peter's marriage to M.J. ''is'' an important part of the character[[note]] You're free to say what you want, [[JoeQuesada [[Creator/JoeQuesada Mr. Chief Executive Officer of Marvel]], it's still true.[[/note]], when some kind of shit will hit the whole Marvel fan (read: CrisisCrossover), at some point the only hope would be the help of a divine entity of some sort (ComicBook/{{Galactus}}, [[ComicBook/SecretWars Beyonder]], whatever), but... ''the god would save humanity only if he deems it worthy.'' This is the point where it got worse: in the judgment of mankind, only a strong love like the former relationship between Peter and M.J. would make the difference, except that - surprise, surprise - it's not there anymore! Then... uh, stuff happens, and at some point either the [[ComicBook/OneMomentInTime (results of the)]] deal with Mephisto are undone for the greater good or Peter and M.J., before the end of the world, spend [[IronicEcho one more day]] together until they finally realize they love each other, and then '''they kiss.''' Said kiss, being just what's needed in order to save the world, restores the MarvelUniverse, reverts the "Crisis" in "CrisisCrossover", and, therefore, [[MundaneMadeAwesome is quickly made]] the single greatest CrowningMomentOfAwesome in the entire Marvel multiverse.



Deadpool will be outraged at this atrocity of a retcon. Being that he has NoFourthWall, he will try and beat up JoeQuesada. Then along comes Mephisto-the true, original Mephisto. He will be pissed that his image was ruined by the [[JoeQuesada false Mephisto,]] and form an EnemyMine to get rid of it. This ends up with a CurbStompBattle, revealing Joe Quesada himself. After this, Deadpool will give a ReasonWhyYouSuckSpeech to him, and why what he did makes no freaking sense. Bonus TakeThat points if Joe admits "Bah! [[ItsAllAboutMe I don't even care what I've done to Spiderman,]] [[YoungerAndHipper I just wanted him to be cool, hip]] and available!", or even the Anvilicious "I ''never'' cared about the fanbase." Whatever the result, it will involve everything about ComicBook/OneMoreDay to be AllJustADream. And every writer on the block will outright ''refuse'' to let JoeQuesada change this. Giving one of the greatest fan revenge moments of all time. And it will be AWESOME.

[[WMG: JoeQuesada [[RetGone will be retconned from history.]] ]]
REVENGE! If JoeQuesada thinks he can pull a retcon on Spiderman and Mary Jane, we'll pull a retcon ''on him.'' The moment we invent a time machine through use of StableTimeLoop.

[[WMG: Prior to writing this story, JoeQuesada had recently [[DealWithTheDevil sold his own soul to the Devil.]]]]

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Deadpool will be outraged at this atrocity of a retcon. Being that he has NoFourthWall, he will try and beat up JoeQuesada.Creator/JoeQuesada. Then along comes Mephisto-the true, original Mephisto. He will be pissed that his image was ruined by the [[JoeQuesada [[Creator/JoeQuesada false Mephisto,]] and form an EnemyMine to get rid of it. This ends up with a CurbStompBattle, revealing Joe Quesada himself. After this, Deadpool will give a ReasonWhyYouSuckSpeech to him, and why what he did makes no freaking sense. Bonus TakeThat points if Joe admits "Bah! [[ItsAllAboutMe I don't even care what I've done to Spiderman,]] [[YoungerAndHipper I just wanted him to be cool, hip]] and available!", or even the Anvilicious "I ''never'' cared about the fanbase." Whatever the result, it will involve everything about ComicBook/OneMoreDay to be AllJustADream. And every writer on the block will outright ''refuse'' to let JoeQuesada Joe Quesada change this. Giving one of the greatest fan revenge moments of all time. And it will be AWESOME.

[[WMG: JoeQuesada Creator/JoeQuesada [[RetGone will be retconned from history.]] ]]
REVENGE! If JoeQuesada Joe Quesada thinks he can pull a retcon on Spiderman and Mary Jane, we'll pull a retcon ''on him.'' The moment we invent a time machine through use of StableTimeLoop.

[[WMG: Prior to writing this story, JoeQuesada Creator/JoeQuesada had recently [[DealWithTheDevil sold his own soul to the Devil.]]]]



[[WMG: JoeQuesada is blackmailing his peers.]]

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[[WMG: JoeQuesada Creator/JoeQuesada is blackmailing his peers.]]
5th Jun '17 8:03:40 AM Rio
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[[WMG:OMD is not a goal, but a stepping stone for Mephisto. And all inconsistencies we see - are all result of his preperation (or lack thereof).]]
Yes, sure, Spider-man loves MJ and his marriage is very slowly make him grow up from being a whiny nervious wreck.
Yes, Aunt May is the only direct living relative he has and she means a whole world to him,despite the fact that he saved MJ from the shot.
No. Think back to the argument: Whole Marvel Universe can't fix a bullet wound.
Yes sure, Aunt May is old, she's a frail woman with guts/will of steel, who lived through deaths of her close relatives, raised a boy with her husband who then died, learned that Spider-man is her nephew, got kidnapped, buried alive... etc. Sure.
But we can see that Doctor Strange CAN bend the rules of reality to undo things, we see that Reed Richards has a working TIME MACHINE... Linkara even brought up that there is no reason why Doctor Doom would refuse to help, since he could use him later.
The point is - there is no reason why the entire MU wouldn't be able to help.
So why didn't they? Because Spider-man never actually asked them. We saw him storm Doctor Strange's house and ask him for help, to reach out to all his allies and enemies. But in reality - he didn't.
He did reach his house, but the moment he stepped through - he fell under a spell. A spell weaved into Strange's house, by some enemy. That explains why Strange, or anyone else connected to mystic arts, felt no presense of Mephisto.
Someone, affected by Mephisto, changed protective spells on his house, left a mind altering spell, that would feed on Spidey's worst fears, and as a reward likely gain an upper hand against Strange.
So that means, it's not that MU was useless, it was that Spider-man was afraid that they were and never questioned what he was seeing. Because he was MADE to think that.
But why? Because Mephisto, needed even a weak excuse to invoke his "Deal with a devil", to do something else.
Sure removing such source of True Love (if you can call it that) is a nice thing for a devil, but it's more of a bonus.
Notice how many dead people came back as a result of OMD, notice how many good and not so good people died, or how much chaos ensued. Take Connors for example, take Doc Ock.
But wait - notice how many things looks stupid. A fat guy knocked Spider-man out? Reed Richards, doesn't question Spider-man on his own involvment in Massive Mind Erasure? Green Goblin, who spent about 40% of his waking life to screw with Peter over and over, going as far as [[spoiler:seducing Gwen Stacy and make her bear two kids from him]], a man who has back ups of back ups, despite his insanity, doesn't remember him? Doc Ock suddenly figuring out a way to highjack someone's mind? MJ, despite her tolerance, love, her development of the years - doesn't do anything?
The reason for it - because Mephisto accomplished his actual goal, and didn't bother cleaning up after himself.
He didn't care that Spider-man will meet MJ and actually recongize something is wrong (which he didn't), he didn't care MJ remembers the truth. He just needed a trip back in time to shift the world ever so slightly and help HIS goal.
Bring Chaos, corrupt "innocent", kill of more people as a sacrifice, evoke horrible monsters lurking under the skin of reality, destroy whole universe, and more.
All part of the plan.
1st Jan '17 4:38:03 AM Morgenthaler
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Okay so when Otto fights Peter in Peter's mind, Otto not only makes the argument Peter is fundamentally selfish, but Peter is somehow unable to refute it. Superior also has both Ghost Peter (before he's deleted) and Mary Jane admit to themselves that they still love one another/they are each others soulmates. And thus when Otto is inevitably found out (likely because he keeps getting more violent, sloppy, and no longer has Peter's memories and will slip up when confronted with information he should know about, but somehow doesn't), the heroes of New York (plus MJ who will likely play a hand in his grand unmasking) try to figure out to get the real Peter Parker back. Through some TechnoBabble mumbo jumbo, they're able to see the mental fight Peter lost and instantly know something must be wrong because Peter Parker, as Comicbook/TheAvengers, Comicbook/FantasticFour etc. know him, is the most selfless, responsible guy on the planet. As some of the above speculate, Ghost Rider, Doctor Strange etc. start sensing the universe was changed, but can't pinpoint how. When they try to view the change all the see us the events of ComicBook/OneMomentInTime, wherein they hid Parker's identity. While said action did cause change, it shouldn't be enough to warrant what they sense, especially sense the physic blind spot that prevents people from uncovering the truth about Peter's ID was effectively undone in ComicBook/SpiderIsland. Eventually it's revealed that Peter and MJ were married, and the events of ComicBook/OneMomentInTime were placed in everyone's memory in place of what actually happened. Mephisto went out of his way to make Peter and MJ's memory of their wedding day as horrible as possible and inject petty fighting in their memory in hopes that he can prevent them forever getting back together as some of the above speculations (take your pick) for what he's truly aftter end up correct. Ock was only able to defeat Peter because the Peter in this timeline has subconscious memories of the deal and thinks of himself as unworthy, even more so than other Peters. Cue epic battle to undo everything, get the real Peter back, and obligatory BadAss MJ somehow getting her revenge on Mehispto for manipulating her and taking away the love of her life.

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Okay so when Otto fights Peter in Peter's mind, Otto not only makes the argument Peter is fundamentally selfish, but Peter is somehow unable to refute it. Superior also has both Ghost Peter (before he's deleted) and Mary Jane admit to themselves that they still love one another/they are each others soulmates. And thus when Otto is inevitably found out (likely because he keeps getting more violent, sloppy, and no longer has Peter's memories and will slip up when confronted with information he should know about, but somehow doesn't), the heroes of New York (plus MJ who will likely play a hand in his grand unmasking) try to figure out to get the real Peter Parker back. Through some TechnoBabble mumbo jumbo, they're able to see the mental fight Peter lost and instantly know something must be wrong because Peter Parker, as Comicbook/TheAvengers, Comicbook/FantasticFour etc. know him, is the most selfless, responsible guy on the planet. As some of the above speculate, Ghost Rider, Doctor Strange etc. start sensing the universe was changed, but can't pinpoint how. When they try to view the change all the see us the events of ComicBook/OneMomentInTime, wherein they hid Parker's identity. While said action did cause change, it shouldn't be enough to warrant what they sense, especially sense the physic blind spot that prevents people from uncovering the truth about Peter's ID was effectively undone in ComicBook/SpiderIsland. Eventually it's revealed that Peter and MJ were married, and the events of ComicBook/OneMomentInTime were placed in everyone's memory in place of what actually happened. Mephisto went out of his way to make Peter and MJ's memory of their wedding day as horrible as possible and inject petty fighting in their memory in hopes that he can prevent them forever getting back together as some of the above speculations (take your pick) for what he's truly aftter end up correct. Ock was only able to defeat Peter because the Peter in this timeline has subconscious memories of the deal and thinks of himself as unworthy, even more so than other Peters. Cue epic battle to undo everything, get the real Peter back, and obligatory BadAss badass MJ somehow getting her revenge on Mehispto for manipulating her and taking away the love of her life.
13th Nov '16 2:33:50 AM Tron80
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I mean...he would honestly do that, just to screw with Spidey.

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I mean...he would honestly do that, just to screw with Spidey.Spidey.

[[WMG:In ''[[Comicbook/SupermanVsTheAmazingSpiderMan Earth-7642]]'' Peter and MJ are married]]
Clearly, when Mephisto tried to screw with Peter's marriage, Earth-7642 Superman -who is an alternate Silver/Bronze Age Superman- punched him out. And when Mephisto's agents tried to change history, Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} travelled back in time and blasted them. Married [[TheCape Capes]] look after each other.

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10th Nov '16 11:59:13 PM ImSpidey2
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[[WMG: One More Day was intentionally bad fanfiction that Venom wrote.]]

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[[WMG: One More Day was intentionally bad fanfiction that Venom ComicBook/{{Venom}} wrote.]]
10th Nov '16 11:58:15 PM ImSpidey2
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Peter Parker is actually Joe Quesada. He made a DealWithTheDevil to get to publish comics about unmarried Spider-Man. Everything since OMD is set in an alternate universe.

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Peter Parker is actually Joe Quesada. He made a DealWithTheDevil to get to publish comics about unmarried Spider-Man. Everything since OMD is set in an alternate universe.universe.

[[WMG: One More Day was intentionally bad fanfiction that Venom wrote.]]
I mean...he would honestly do that, just to screw with Spidey.
4th Nov '16 9:45:25 AM Tron80
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I mean great minds of Marvel Universe, including Strange himself who is capable of using freaking magic that could do anything - can't treat a gunshot wound? Suddenly everyone is talking about how you have to let it go and all that. That was Peter trying to break free of this illusion like Superman in Whatever happened to the Man of what's it called.

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I mean great minds of Marvel Universe, including Strange himself who is capable of using freaking magic that could do anything - can't treat a gunshot wound? Suddenly everyone is talking about how you have to let it go and all that. That was Peter trying to break free of this illusion like Superman Franchise/{{Superman}} in Whatever happened to the Man of what's it called.
''Comicbook/ForTheManWhoHasEverything''.
16th Jun '16 4:06:14 PM nombretomado
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Of course, this only exposes how colossally stupid Peter and M.J. must be to have accepted the deal after hearing his open gloating, and M.J. earns no sympathy from her tears post-changed-world if she honestly remembers everything. Also, any ''number'' of above WMG theories can be tied to this one - including the one about [[ReplacementScrappy Ca]][[CreatorsPet rl]][[RelationshipSue ie]] being Mephisto's personal [[TenchiMuyo Sak]][[TomatoInTheMirror uya]], the one about Quesada being a disguised Mephisto or having sold his soul, the various ways SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, ComicBook/SquirrelGirl, Doctor Strange, Comicbook/GhostRider, etc. can take part in the solution that undoes the damage, even the fate-of-the-universe version of the old proposed [[ComicBook/TheCloneSaga Clone Saga]] solution with Judas Traveller and Mephisto's old wager about the nature of humans. Any future Marvel editors or really good fanfic writers reading this and looking for a way to restore the marriage and the characters' integrity with an epic story, you are welcome to all of this!!

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Of course, this only exposes how colossally stupid Peter and M.J. must be to have accepted the deal after hearing his open gloating, and M.J. earns no sympathy from her tears post-changed-world if she honestly remembers everything. Also, any ''number'' of above WMG theories can be tied to this one - including the one about [[ReplacementScrappy Ca]][[CreatorsPet rl]][[RelationshipSue ie]] being Mephisto's personal [[TenchiMuyo [[Anime/TenchiMuyo Sak]][[TomatoInTheMirror uya]], the one about Quesada being a disguised Mephisto or having sold his soul, the various ways SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, ComicBook/SquirrelGirl, Doctor Strange, Comicbook/GhostRider, etc. can take part in the solution that undoes the damage, even the fate-of-the-universe version of the old proposed [[ComicBook/TheCloneSaga Clone Saga]] solution with Judas Traveller and Mephisto's old wager about the nature of humans. Any future Marvel editors or really good fanfic writers reading this and looking for a way to restore the marriage and the characters' integrity with an epic story, you are welcome to all of this!!
5th Mar '16 4:14:50 PM nombretomado
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Spider-Man is one of Marvel's quintessential human heroes, in a similar vein to CaptainAmerica. An ordinary human who comes to obtain what amounts to peak-human or base-superhuman power, and strives to use this power to do the right thing. Even more so in Spidey's case because away from the mask Peter Parker's life isn't exactly remarkable. He and this beautiful model/actress girl Mary Jane Watson have grown from neighbors to best friends to on-and-off lovers to husband and wife over the course of the comic canon, and their loyalty to each other most of the way through is remarkable. Their relationship, off-and-on, has been iconic for over forty years, and Mary Jane is one of the first things you think of in association with Spider-Man. Theirs is [[HappilyMarried an example of love the world could strive to look up to]], and especially in the Marvel-verse after Peter's public unmasking, religious folk could argue it's an example from {{God}} Himself. And yes, the God of Abraham, the Most High, the omnipotent Creator that makes every other storied being that ever calls itself a god look like a piss-ant in comparison, ''does'' exist in the Marvel Universe, under the name of "the One-Above-All". He even told Peter to be at May's bedside as she dies, implying that the reason every person who should've been able to heal her in seconds suddenly got their hands tied and became useless is because it was simply time to let her go and '''move on'''.

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Spider-Man is one of Marvel's quintessential human heroes, in a similar vein to CaptainAmerica.ComicBook/CaptainAmerica. An ordinary human who comes to obtain what amounts to peak-human or base-superhuman power, and strives to use this power to do the right thing. Even more so in Spidey's case because away from the mask Peter Parker's life isn't exactly remarkable. He and this beautiful model/actress girl Mary Jane Watson have grown from neighbors to best friends to on-and-off lovers to husband and wife over the course of the comic canon, and their loyalty to each other most of the way through is remarkable. Their relationship, off-and-on, has been iconic for over forty years, and Mary Jane is one of the first things you think of in association with Spider-Man. Theirs is [[HappilyMarried an example of love the world could strive to look up to]], and especially in the Marvel-verse after Peter's public unmasking, religious folk could argue it's an example from {{God}} Himself. And yes, the God of Abraham, the Most High, the omnipotent Creator that makes every other storied being that ever calls itself a god look like a piss-ant in comparison, ''does'' exist in the Marvel Universe, under the name of "the One-Above-All". He even told Peter to be at May's bedside as she dies, implying that the reason every person who should've been able to heal her in seconds suddenly got their hands tied and became useless is because it was simply time to let her go and '''move on'''.
15th Jan '16 7:30:32 PM nombretomado
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Of course, this only exposes how colossally stupid Peter and M.J. must be to have accepted the deal after hearing his open gloating, and M.J. earns no sympathy from her tears post-changed-world if she honestly remembers everything. Also, any ''number'' of above WMG theories can be tied to this one - including the one about [[ReplacementScrappy Ca]][[CreatorsPet rl]][[RelationshipSue ie]] being Mephisto's personal [[TenchiMuyo Sak]][[TomatoInTheMirror uya]], the one about Quesada being a disguised Mephisto or having sold his soul, the various ways {{Deadpool}}, SquirrelGirl, Doctor Strange, Comicbook/GhostRider, etc. can take part in the solution that undoes the damage, even the fate-of-the-universe version of the old proposed [[ComicBook/TheCloneSaga Clone Saga]] solution with Judas Traveller and Mephisto's old wager about the nature of humans. Any future Marvel editors or really good fanfic writers reading this and looking for a way to restore the marriage and the characters' integrity with an epic story, you are welcome to all of this!!

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Of course, this only exposes how colossally stupid Peter and M.J. must be to have accepted the deal after hearing his open gloating, and M.J. earns no sympathy from her tears post-changed-world if she honestly remembers everything. Also, any ''number'' of above WMG theories can be tied to this one - including the one about [[ReplacementScrappy Ca]][[CreatorsPet rl]][[RelationshipSue ie]] being Mephisto's personal [[TenchiMuyo Sak]][[TomatoInTheMirror uya]], the one about Quesada being a disguised Mephisto or having sold his soul, the various ways {{Deadpool}}, SquirrelGirl, SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, ComicBook/SquirrelGirl, Doctor Strange, Comicbook/GhostRider, etc. can take part in the solution that undoes the damage, even the fate-of-the-universe version of the old proposed [[ComicBook/TheCloneSaga Clone Saga]] solution with Judas Traveller and Mephisto's old wager about the nature of humans. Any future Marvel editors or really good fanfic writers reading this and looking for a way to restore the marriage and the characters' integrity with an epic story, you are welcome to all of this!!
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