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* Alternatively, his physical form is still very much human - he really was once a troubled young boy by the name of Leonard Rockstein. Leonard was possessed by the eldritch abomination, probably as a teenager or very young man (around the same time as - or just before - he became the lead singer of Zazz Blammymatazz) and caused him to go completely off the rails. Before he was possessed, Leonard was a troublemaker, sure, but he never did anything truly terrible. After he was possessed, he began taking cocaine, possibly to deal with the mental stress of harbouring an ancient eldritch abomination in his head. His cocaine use rapidly wore him down and left him even more vulnerable to the abomination, and eventually, he couldn't control it any more. Why did it possess him in the first place? Well, even if he wasn't a totally awful kid, he was still troubled. Maybe he had some emotional issues that made him more vulnerable. Alternatively, this could all just be a metaphor for what addiction does to a person. You choose.
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* [[Though I've noticed Offdensen's similarity to Owen, it is a kind of weird leap to make. You seem to be implying that his unfettered personality is a racial trait, it's not. Being fond of humans doesn't dry out one's humor either. Owen acts the way he does because of Puck's amusement at another character's wooden personality, and decided to copy him. Owen is unique to Puck. Most other fair folk act more or less the same in human form as they do in their real form. It's kind of like saying Pickles is secretly a gargoyle because he has red hair like Demona does.]]

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* [[Though [[spoiler: Though I've noticed Offdensen's similarity to Owen, it is a kind of weird leap to make. You seem to be implying that his unfettered personality is a racial trait, it's not. Being fond of humans doesn't dry out one's humor either. Owen acts the way he does because of Puck's amusement at another character's wooden personality, and decided to copy him. Owen is unique to Puck. Most other fair folk act more or less the same in human form as they do in their real form. It's kind of like saying Pickles is secretly a gargoyle because he has red hair like Demona does.]]
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* {[Though I've noticed Offdensen's similarity to Owen, it is a kind of weird leap to make. You seem to be implying that his unfettered personality is a racial trait, it's not. Being fond of humans doesn't dry out one's humor either. Owen acts the way he does because of Puck's amusement at another character's wooden personality, and decided to copy him. Owen is unique to Puck. Most other fair folk act more or less the same in human form as they do in their real form. It's kind of like saying Pickles is secretly a gargoyle because he has red hair like Demona does.]}

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* {[Though [[Though I've noticed Offdensen's similarity to Owen, it is a kind of weird leap to make. You seem to be implying that his unfettered personality is a racial trait, it's not. Being fond of humans doesn't dry out one's humor either. Owen acts the way he does because of Puck's amusement at another character's wooden personality, and decided to copy him. Owen is unique to Puck. Most other fair folk act more or less the same in human form as they do in their real form. It's kind of like saying Pickles is secretly a gargoyle because he has red hair like Demona does.]}
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* {[Though I've noticed Offdensen's similarity to Owen, it is a kind of weird leap to make. You seem to be implying that his unfettered personality is a racial trait, it's not. Being fond of humans doesn't dry out one's humor either. Owen acts the way he does because of Puck's amusement at another character's wooden personality, and decided to copy him. Owen is unique to Puck. Most other fair folk act more or less the same in human form as they do in their real form. It's kind of like saying Pickles is secretly a gargoyle because he has red hair like Demona does.]}
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* I'm sure somewhere, YouFailBiologyForever would come into play, but that's only if they intend to repopulate the planet further.

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* I'm sure somewhere, YouFailBiologyForever ArtisticLicenseBiology would come into play, but that's only if they intend to repopulate the planet further.
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[[WMG: Everything after Fanklok was Nathan's DyingDream.]]
Trindle's bomb really did kill Dethklok.
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** Or both are true, but Austria and Prussia are teaming up secretly to stop a third power-Russia. Unlikely, since they're perennial enemies, but again, if no one else believes them, they have no choice but to become StrangeBedfellows.

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** Or both are true, but Austria and Prussia are teaming up secretly to stop a third power-Russia. Unlikely, since they're perennial enemies, but again, if no one else believes them, they have no choice but to become StrangeBedfellows.{{Enemy Mine}}s.
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[[WMG: Vater Orlaag is a resurrected RasputinTheMadMonk.]]

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[[WMG: Vater Orlaag is a resurrected RasputinTheMadMonk.UsefulNotes/RasputinTheMadMonk.]]
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* Salacia is an aged Prussia, trying to get back his former glory by any means necessary. Including making a deal with ''something'' to get the powers he's exhibited so far. He wears contacts because red eyes are an obvious sign that something ain't right. The reason Offdensen/Austria has to resort to using Dethklok to stop him is [[CassandraTruth no one believes him when he says Prussia's still a threat]]. Incidentally, this makes the Prussia=EastGermany WMG less likely to be true.

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* Salacia is an aged Prussia, trying to get back his former glory by any means necessary. Including making a deal with ''something'' to get the powers he's exhibited so far. He wears contacts because red eyes are an obvious sign that something ain't right. The reason Offdensen/Austria has to resort to using Dethklok to stop him is [[CassandraTruth no one believes him when he says Prussia's still a threat]]. Incidentally, this makes the Prussia=EastGermany Prussia[===]UsefulNotes/EastGermany WMG less likely to be true.
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Let's see, a blond, Swedish (possibly - his accent can most likely be pinned down to Northern Europe, and he does threaten to 'unleash the Viking fury' on another camper at one point), egotistical (yet admittedly talented) {{Jerkass}} who bullies Toki - now who does that sound like? It's probable that he's aware of who his father is and either resents him for being absent, or has become a WellDoneSonGuy desperately trying to re-connect with his father. He's probably one of, if not the oldest of Skwisgaar's kids (he's at least in his early twenties; perhaps Skwisgaar was eighteen or so and in a band back in Sweden at the time).

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Let's see, a blond, Swedish (possibly - his accent can most likely be pinned down to Northern Europe, and he does threaten to 'unleash the Viking fury' madness' on another camper at one point), egotistical (yet admittedly talented) {{Jerkass}} who bullies Toki - now who does that sound like? It's probable that he's aware of who his father is and either resents him for being absent, or has become a WellDoneSonGuy desperately trying to re-connect with his father. He's probably one of, if not the oldest of Skwisgaar's kids (he's at least in his early twenties; perhaps Skwisgaar was eighteen or so and in a band back in Sweden at the time).
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[[WMG: Ludwig, the bully from ''Dethcamp'', was Skwisgaar's son.]]

Let's see, a blond, Swedish (possibly - his accent can most likely be pinned down to Northern Europe, and he does threaten to 'unleash the Viking fury' on another camper at one point), egotistical (yet admittedly talented) {{Jerkass}} who bullies Toki - now who does that sound like? It's probable that he's aware of who his father is and either resents him for being absent, or has become a WellDoneSonGuy desperately trying to re-connect with his father. He's probably one of, if not the oldest of Skwisgaar's kids (he's at least in his early twenties; perhaps Skwisgaar was eighteen or so and in a band back in Sweden at the time).
* Alternatively, he's Skwisgaar's half-brother. Serveta may well have had another kid but couldn't be bothered with the hassle of raising two kids, so put him up for adoption.
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Yes, it looks like cherry-flavored {{Instrumentality}}.

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Yes, it looks like cherry-flavored {{Instrumentality}}.
Instrumentality.
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[[WMG: If there is a GenderFlip AlternateUniverse, then Doctor Rockso is the counterpart of Larxene from AnsemRetort.]]
Well, let's look. Both are drug addicts, and are willing to sell out and betray supposed friends for their next fix. Both of them are naturally blond. (The discrepancy in skin tone's harder to explain but no WMG is perfect.) Both have ''definitely'' been around things that aren't normal (Red XIII vs. Dethklok, Xemnas vs. Salacia.) And whoring himself out on a reality show that embraces, nay encourages drug use isn't out of character for Rockso. Presumably, though, if they are the same person, different gender, then Larxene is also a future version of Rockso, due to going from cocaine to...everything, and from the world already gone to hell. In other words, AnsemRetort takes place in a post-''WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}}'' alternate universe.

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[[WMG: If there is a GenderFlip AlternateUniverse, then Doctor Rockso is the counterpart of Larxene from AnsemRetort.''Webcomic/AnsemRetort''.]]
Well, let's look. Both are drug addicts, and are willing to sell out and betray supposed friends for their next fix. Both of them are naturally blond. (The discrepancy in skin tone's harder to explain but no WMG is perfect.) Both have ''definitely'' been around things that aren't normal (Red XIII vs. Dethklok, Xemnas vs. Salacia.) And whoring himself out on a reality show that embraces, nay encourages drug use isn't out of character for Rockso. Presumably, though, if they are the same person, different gender, then Larxene is also a future version of Rockso, due to going from cocaine to...everything, and from the world already gone to hell. In other words, AnsemRetort ''Webcomic/AnsemRetort'' takes place in a post-''WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}}'' alternate universe.

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This is different from the idea that they are Eldritch abominations in that it's a more Christian-hell-esque motif than a Cosmic Horror motif. Crozier's vision during the first episode of Season 2 is of a Dante's Inferno-stly hell with demons, fire and brimstone, and even circular levels. At the bottom level is Ravenwood, crucified, with the five Dethklok members assembled around him. With glowing red eyes. Additionally, the top of their stage in the season 1 finale has an inverted pentagram design on it ("Quick! To the Pentapods!" - Ofdensen).

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This is different from the idea that they are Eldritch abominations in that it's a more Christian-hell-esque motif than a Cosmic Horror motif. Crozier's vision during the first episode of Season 2 is of a Dante's Inferno-stly hell with demons, fire and brimstone, and even circular levels. At the bottom level is Ravenwood, crucified, with the five Dethklok members assembled around him. With glowing red eyes. Additionally, the top of their stage in the season 1 finale has an inverted pentagram design on it ("Quick! To the Pentapods!" - Ofdensen).
Offdensen).



What does this make Salacia and Ofdensen? Satan and God? Could be.

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What does this make Salacia and Ofdensen? Offdensen? Satan and God? Could be.



[[spoiler:(Okay, this theory could probably be attributed to my sudden speed-marathoning of Supernatural, but hear me out.)]]

I'm kinda tying this one into the above theory. In "Bluesklok", Dethklok (reminder: the band who can't even shop for groceries properly) managed to negotiate a contract with the Blues Devil (the in-show example of a crossorads demon) that actually got them a 5% return on HIS soul, which freaked him out so much, he was the one who called "no deal" and claimed he needed to "sleep on it" before hightailing it out of there like a bat out of hell (pun not intended). Now, the only person who could have obviously taught or influenced the boys with that kind of skill would be Charles. And, obviously, you don't cheat the devil without being a devil yourself (or demon in this case).

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[[spoiler:(Okay, this theory could probably be attributed to my sudden speed-marathoning of Supernatural, Series/{{Supernatural}}, but hear me out.)]]

I'm kinda tying this one into the above theory. In "Bluesklok", Dethklok (reminder: the band who can't even shop for groceries properly) managed to negotiate a contract with the Blues Devil (the in-show example of a crossorads crossroads demon) that actually got them a 5% return on HIS soul, which freaked him out so much, he was the one who called "no deal" and claimed he needed to "sleep on it" before hightailing it out of there like a bat out of hell (pun not intended). Now, the only person who could have obviously taught or influenced the boys with that kind of skill would be Charles. And, obviously, you don't cheat the devil without being a devil yourself (or demon in this case).



Offdensen may in fact be hiding how much he REALLY knows about the Sumerian prophecy or feigning ignorance on the matter, because he's hoping to make the ultimate deal with Dethklok, if he hasn't already (in exchange for their souls, maybe he gave the band a little...push into meteoric stardom and to get out of their shitty home environments? The staying on as manager is just to keep a watchful eye on his gravy train, or maybe just to partake of the fortune and perks like expensive brandy that comes from that level of fame, who can say?) - I mean, 5 figureheads set to stop an unholy entity, with at least two being directly descended from gods or actual gods themselves? If that's not appealing to anyone in the soul-selling business, I don't know what is. And remember that Charles is ALL about the business. Sure, he's "The Dead Man" now...but what if he was never really alive to begin with? It's not hard to believe Selactia, with all his abilities, could possibly see and observe another demonic or supernatural being (note how he is able to converse with Orlaag on the astral projection plane). But if that being were to die, and thus rendered invisible to his sight...well. It would make him the perfect spy in this world and the next.

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Offdensen may in fact be hiding how much he REALLY knows about the Sumerian prophecy or feigning ignorance on the matter, because he's hoping to make the ultimate deal with Dethklok, if he hasn't already (in exchange for their souls, maybe he gave the band a little...push into meteoric stardom and to get out of their shitty home environments? The staying on as manager is just to keep a watchful eye on his gravy train, or maybe just to partake of the fortune and perks like expensive brandy that comes from that level of fame, who can say?) - I mean, 5 figureheads set to stop an unholy entity, with at least two being directly descended from gods or actual gods themselves? If that's not appealing to anyone in the soul-selling business, I don't know what is. And remember that Charles is ALL about the business. Sure, he's "The Dead Man" now...but what if he was never really alive to begin with? It's not hard to believe Selactia, Salacia, with all his abilities, could possibly see and observe another demonic or supernatural being (note how he is able to converse with Orlaag on the astral projection plane). But if that being were to die, and thus rendered invisible to his sight...well. It would make him the perfect spy in this world and the next.



* Debatable. Ofdensen left Dethklok to fend for themselves towards the end of Doomstar, resigning as manager due to no longer being able to protect them. While he [[spoiler: later became the head of the Church of the Black Klok]], he probably isn't planning on anything sinister.

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* Debatable. Ofdensen Offdensen left Dethklok to fend for themselves towards the end of Doomstar, resigning as manager due to no longer being able to protect them. While he [[spoiler: later became the head of the Church of the Black Klok]], he probably isn't planning on anything sinister.sinister.



The belief that Skwisgar and Toki can't play slow is a psychological creation, a mental block. They can't play music they consider 'non-metal' or 'grandspas'; but as long as the song is 'metal,' they seem able to play whatever speed they want.

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The belief that Skwisgar Skwisgaar and Toki can't play slow is a psychological creation, a mental block. They can't play music they consider 'non-metal' or 'grandspas'; but as long as the song is 'metal,' they seem able to play whatever speed they want.



* They've proven by mastering standup comedy that they can do whatever they want and master any SKILL they need, as long as they think it's metal. Just like Ranma can learn and master anything in two days as long as it's a martial arts form.

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* They've proven by mastering standup stand-up comedy that they can do whatever they want and master any SKILL they need, as long as they think it's metal. Just like Ranma can learn and master anything in two days as long as it's a martial arts form.



* Variant: the inside man of their Illuminati FictionalCounterpart is Salacia. Dethklok really will cause universal armageddon; for one reason or another, Salacia is out to ensure everything goes just as planned. He may be an EldritchAbomination.

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* Variant: the The inside man of their Illuminati FictionalCounterpart is Salacia. Dethklok really will cause universal armageddon; for one reason or another, Salacia is out to ensure everything goes just as planned. He may be an EldritchAbomination.



[[WMG: Ofdensen will die by the end of season 2.]]
The writers seem to be building up to this with each confrontation he takes part in, showing off his NighInvulnerability every time. Understandably, if he were to be killed in the finale, it would be that much more surprising because of his amazing ability to survive everything so far. It would also up the ante for how much fans hate The Revengencers; Ofdensen seems to be something of a fan favorite, and offing him would be a good PlayerPunch.

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[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen will die by the end of season 2.]]
The writers seem to be building up to this with each confrontation he takes part in, showing off his NighInvulnerability every time. Understandably, if he were to be killed in the finale, it would be that much more surprising because of his amazing ability to survive everything so far. It would also up the ante for how much fans hate The Revengencers; Ofdensen Offdensen seems to be something of a fan favorite, and offing him would be a good PlayerPunch.



[[WMG: Ofdensen survives season 2, but comes away with a Significant Facial Scar.]]
Ofdensen gets his shit ruined pretty bad by the Metal Masked Assassin; he gets his face bashed in after being shot by crossbow-bolt fire. But there's a certain amount of non-attention paid to the Assassin's cutting Ofdensen's cheek with a knife while saying that he wants him to stay alive while he's being tortured. It quickly gets lost among the copious amounts of blood gushing out of Ofdensen's face, but if any injury from that battle is going to stick, it'll be that one.

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[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen survives season 2, but comes away with a Significant Facial Scar.]]
Ofdensen Offdensen gets his shit ruined pretty bad by the Metal Masked Assassin; he gets his face bashed in after being shot by crossbow-bolt fire. But there's a certain amount of non-attention paid to the Assassin's cutting Ofdensen's Offdensen's cheek with a knife while saying that he wants him to stay alive while he's being tortured. It quickly gets lost among the copious amounts of blood gushing out of Ofdensen's Offdensen's face, but if any injury from that battle is going to stick, it'll be that one.



* [[spoiler:[[IKnewIt Confirmed!]]]]
** [[spoiler:And whereas anyone else might look bad, Ofdensen just looks that much more badass.]]
** [[spoiler: Which seems to be gone now, so I propose a new WMG. Ofdensen is hiding his scar with...makeup or something, for a future plot point.]]
*** I got it. When [[spoiler: the scar]] reappears, it's a sign Ofdensen's in LetsGetDangerous mode. Prove me wrong Brendon. Prove me wrong.
*** Possible confirmation, [[http://deani-bean.livejournal.com/326663.html this interview]] (scroll toward the bottom) said that Charles's missing scar is important.

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* [[spoiler:[[IKnewIt [[spoiler: [[IKnewIt Confirmed!]]]]
** [[spoiler:And [[spoiler: And whereas anyone else might look bad, Ofdensen Offdensen just looks that much more badass.]]
** [[spoiler: Which seems to be gone now, so I propose a new WMG. Ofdensen Offdensen is hiding his scar with...makeup or something, for a future plot point.]]
*** I got it. When [[spoiler: the scar]] reappears, it's a sign Ofdensen's Offdensen's in LetsGetDangerous mode. Prove me wrong Brendon. Prove me wrong.
*** Possible confirmation, [[http://deani-bean.livejournal.com/326663.html this interview]] (scroll toward the bottom) an interview said that Charles's missing scar is important.



Why was Crozier chosen for the Tribunal? Why did Salacia leave Crozier alive ("you are still needed") when Crozier went against the Tribunal? It could be because the revelation of Nathan's true parentage could be critical to the Metalocalypse. The possibility is there: remember that Nathan's father was a US Army officer. Colonel Explosion and Crozier could have been stationed in the same place nine months prior to Nathan's birth. If Crozier knows, this would explain many of his actions (and puts the events of "Dethcarraldo" in a very different light). The question now becomes, does Ofdensen know?
* Alternatively, Crozier is OFFDENSEN'S father, and the military upbringing is not only why Charles has most of his skills (come on, fencing in college explains the swordfighting, but where the hell does a simple lawyer/financial managed learn hand-to-hand combat like that?) but also partially why he's got some "daddy issues". And yet, why would Crozier attack the Revengencers boy after he shot Charles with the crossbow? Would it not just be easier to just kill Charles himself if he's been trying to kill off Dethklok, after all? Because he was protecting his son, that's why. The problem is that Selactia, having had enough of Crozier's rebellious nonsense, mind-wipes him and makes him a slave, which is why Crozier didn't interfere when the Metal Masked Assassin turned Charles's face into hamburger.

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Why was Crozier chosen for the Tribunal? Why did Salacia leave Crozier alive ("you are still needed") when Crozier went against the Tribunal? It could be because the revelation of Nathan's true parentage could be critical to the Metalocalypse. The possibility is there: remember that Nathan's father was a US Army officer. Colonel Explosion and Crozier could have been stationed in the same place nine months prior to Nathan's birth. If Crozier knows, this would explain many of his actions (and puts the events of "Dethcarraldo" in a very different light). The question now becomes, does Ofdensen Offdensen know?
* Alternatively, Crozier is OFFDENSEN'S father, and the military upbringing is not only why Charles has most of his skills (come on, fencing in college explains the swordfighting, but where the hell does a simple lawyer/financial managed learn hand-to-hand combat like that?) but also partially why he's got some "daddy issues". And yet, why would Crozier attack the Revengencers boy after he shot Charles with the crossbow? Would it not just be easier to just kill Charles himself if he's been trying to kill off Dethklok, after all? Because he was protecting his son, that's why. The problem is that Selactia, Salacia, having had enough of Crozier's rebellious nonsense, mind-wipes him and makes him a slave, which is why Crozier didn't interfere when the Metal Masked Assassin turned Charles's face into hamburger.



[[WMG: Salacia is the Masked Assassin from the future; he wants the Metalocalypse to happen because it's the only way he can be sure Ofdensen will die.]]

They have the same hair and they're both fucking huge, for one; the Masked Assassin wants to kill Ofdensen more than anything else, but Dethklok depends on Ofdensen for survival. He already knows his past self will fail in killing him personally, so he's doing everything he can to let Dethklok bring about the Metalocalypse in the hopes that the coming destruction will finally get rid of him.

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[[WMG: Salacia is the Masked Assassin from the future; he wants the Metalocalypse to happen because it's the only way he can be sure Ofdensen Offdensen will die.]]

They have the same hair and they're both fucking huge, for one; the Masked Assassin wants to kill Ofdensen Offdensen more than anything else, but Dethklok depends on Ofdensen Offdensen for survival. He already knows his past self will fail in killing him personally, so he's doing everything he can to let Dethklok bring about the Metalocalypse in the hopes that the coming destruction will finally get rid of him.



[[WMG:The Masked Assassin is Nathan Explosion from the future.]]

They both have low, gravely voices, for one. Also, perhaps after the Metalocalypse occurs, Nathan finds a way to go back in time and try to stop it from happening, for whatever reason. That's why he wants Ofdensen dead so badly: he knows that without Ofdensen, the band is helpless.
* The reason he wants Ofdensen dead so badly is because Ofdensen more or less completely humiliated him at the end of the first season. He wants to kill Ofdensen and destroy Dethklok because they are responsible for the death of his brother.

[[WMG:Salacia is Odin and Ofdensen is Loki banished to human form.]]
Not that I have any proof but Ofdensen is an enigma...
* I think you've got your deities mixed up. Ofdensen might be Balder or Tyr. Both gods of justice and order. Salacia... well, he could be one of Loki's children.
** The only thing is that it would be completely in character for Loki to impersonate someone like a lawyer in order to spread chaos. And Salacia's goal (so far) is to try and stop the Metalocalypse, which would be like Ragnorok to a Norse god, thus making Salacia a force for order.

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[[WMG:The [[WMG: The Masked Assassin is Nathan Explosion from the future.]]

They both have low, gravely voices, for one. Also, perhaps after the Metalocalypse occurs, Nathan finds a way to go back in time and try to stop it from happening, for whatever reason. That's why he wants Ofdensen Offdensen dead so badly: he knows that without Ofdensen, Offdensen, the band is helpless.
* The reason he wants Ofdensen Offdensen dead so badly is because Ofdensen Offdensen more or less completely humiliated him at the end of the first season. He wants to kill Ofdensen Offdensen and destroy Dethklok because they are responsible for the death of his brother.

[[WMG:Salacia [[WMG: Salacia is Odin and Ofdensen Offdensen is Loki banished to human form.]]
Not that I have any proof but Ofdensen Offdensen is an enigma...
* I think you've got your deities mixed up. Ofdensen Offdensen might be Balder or Tyr. Both gods of justice and order. Salacia... well, he could be one of Loki's children.
** The only thing is that it would be completely in character for Loki to impersonate someone like a lawyer in order to spread chaos. And Salacia's goal (so far) is to try and stop the Metalocalypse, which would be like Ragnorok Ragnarok to a Norse god, thus making Salacia a force for order.



** But let's not forget that Toki was NOT one of the original five members of Dethklok when the group initially signed their first contract with Crystal Mountain Records. Remember that long-haired bearded guy who is there instead of Toki in the season three opening flashback? It's never explained how or why he left Dethklok. Considering what happens to people [[FateWorseThanDeath in the near viscinity of Dethklok]], it's not hard to imagine he died horribly... and there's Balder right there.

[[WMG: Salacia is Ofdensen from the future, and he's trying to save Dethklok from themselves by consuming them when the Metalocalypse rises.]]

The raw power of the Metalocalypse will turn Ofdensen from a BadassNormal into an EldritchAbomination, and kill or otherwise render Dethklok inhuman. Infused with unchecked powers of Metal and having failed in his only mortal desire (to protect and serve the band), he decides to return to the past in order to learn everything about the Metalocalypse he didn't know the first time around, and seek to prevent it. This is why he punishes Krozier and Ravenwood for attacking Dethklok (remember, he was CFO of the Dethklok company with an army of intensely loyal followers; he doesn't take kindly to being betrayed, plus we know what Ofdensen does to people who threaten his boys), why he dresses impeccably, why he doesn't participate in Tribunal affairs except to support plans he already knows won't work (he needs to preserve the timeline), and why he's never surprised by anything Dethklok does (he remembers it all). It may also be why he specifically tells Crozier he's ''not allowed'' to go to the United States Pornography Awards-- primarily he wouldn't want Krozier to go to the awards ceremony and interact with Dethklok, but the same phrase is used by Nathan when he was describing why he couldn't go.

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** But let's not forget that Toki was NOT one of the original five members of Dethklok when the group initially signed their first contract with Crystal Mountain Records. Remember that long-haired bearded guy who is there instead of Toki in the season three opening flashback? It's never explained how or why he left Dethklok. Considering what happens to people [[FateWorseThanDeath in the near viscinity vicinity of Dethklok]], it's not hard to imagine he died horribly... and there's Balder right there.

[[WMG: Salacia is Ofdensen Offdensen from the future, and he's trying to save Dethklok from themselves by consuming them when the Metalocalypse rises.]]

The raw power of the Metalocalypse will turn Ofdensen Offdensen from a BadassNormal into an EldritchAbomination, and kill or otherwise render Dethklok inhuman. Infused with unchecked powers of Metal and having failed in his only mortal desire (to protect and serve the band), he decides to return to the past in order to learn everything about the Metalocalypse he didn't know the first time around, and seek to prevent it. This is why he punishes Krozier and Ravenwood for attacking Dethklok (remember, he was CFO of the Dethklok company with an army of intensely loyal followers; he doesn't take kindly to being betrayed, plus we know what Ofdensen Offdensen does to people who threaten his boys), why he dresses impeccably, why he doesn't participate in Tribunal affairs except to support plans he already knows won't work (he needs to preserve the timeline), and why he's never surprised by anything Dethklok does (he remembers it all). It may also be why he specifically tells Crozier he's ''not allowed'' to go to the United States Pornography Awards-- Awards -- primarily he wouldn't want Krozier to go to the awards ceremony and interact with Dethklok, but the same phrase is used by Nathan when he was describing why he couldn't go.



They've gotten this far without killing themselves. That's really all the proof I need. But specifically, they all manage to do things that would kill or incapacitate your average human being. Most people couldn't survive the sheer number of liver transplants Nathan's had. Pickles probably hasn't been fully sober since the 80s, is immune to the long-term negative side effects of drugs, and he's still around. Toki survived his childhood in Norway and didn't die in the tank in the second episode (after one of the crew said specifically that he would die without the safety briefing; he didn't get it, and he's still kicking). Skwisgaar has been in a variety of interesting car crashes and tons of (probably) unprotected sex, and he's not only alive, but clean. And Murderface... well, he lived through Religionklok.

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They've gotten this far without killing themselves. That's really all the proof I need. But specifically, they all manage to do things that would kill or incapacitate your average human being. Most people couldn't survive the sheer number of liver transplants Nathan's had. Pickles probably hasn't been fully sober since the 80s, '80s, is immune to the long-term negative side effects of drugs, and he's still around. Toki survived his childhood in Norway and didn't die in the tank in the second episode (after one of the crew said specifically that he would die without the safety briefing; he didn't get it, and he's still kicking). Skwisgaar has been in a variety of interesting car crashes and tons of (probably) unprotected sex, and he's not only alive, but clean. And Murderface... well, he lived through Religionklok.



[[WMG: Nathan Explosion is an adult version of Duane (Dwayne?) from Home Movies.]]

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[[WMG: Nathan Explosion is an adult version of Duane (Dwayne?) from Home Movies.WesternAnimation/HomeMovies.]]



[[WMG: Dethlok is actually a group of [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]]]]

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[[WMG: Dethlok Dethklok is actually a group of [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]]]]



* This would also mage their manager Nyarlathotep or an expy of him, since his role would be analoguous to that of the messager of Outer Gods. The fact that he seems to be pretty much indestructiple would seem to support this.

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* This would also mage their manager Nyarlathotep or an expy of him, since his role would be analoguous analogous to that of the messager messenger of Outer Gods. The fact that he seems to be pretty much indestructiple indestructible would seem to support this.



* It explains his disproportionate loathing for Ofdensen (who had nothing to do with the death of his brother), but not Dethklok themselves, his ability to stay hidden from any and all surveillance (including Mordhaus', which is at least as sophisticated as the U.S. military) and his wardrobe. All he had to do to pass for a Klokateer was put on an executioner's hood; while that may or may not be the kind of thing that is sold in ordinary stores in the CrapsackWorld of Metalocalypse, it's possible that the Masked Assassin already owned one. And he definitely LOOKS like he went on a few tours with the band; if he was ever a Klokateer, he may well have been left for dead at some point, but survived, and instead of returning to his work to continue under an uncaring manager, he decided to pursue an ambiguous career in torturing people in a creepy bathroom. Losing his brother to perceived workplace negligence was the last straw.

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* It explains his disproportionate loathing for Ofdensen Offdensen (who had nothing to do with the death of his brother), but not Dethklok themselves, his ability to stay hidden from any and all surveillance (including Mordhaus', which is at least as sophisticated as the U.S. military) and his wardrobe. All he had to do to pass for a Klokateer was put on an executioner's hood; while that may or may not be the kind of thing that is sold in ordinary stores in the CrapsackWorld of Metalocalypse, it's possible that the Masked Assassin already owned one. And he definitely LOOKS like he went on a few tours with the band; if he was ever a Klokateer, he may well have been left for dead at some point, but survived, and instead of returning to his work to continue under an uncaring manager, he decided to pursue an ambiguous career in torturing people in a creepy bathroom. Losing his brother to perceived workplace negligence was the last straw.



It'd explain a good deal- not only how Ofdensen learned his moves, but also how Crozier knew to warn Dr. Rockzo not to fuck around with him. As to why he's not with the Ops anymore... I'd say it was due to a botched assassination that ruined his reputation, an error actually set up by a very jealous partner- a man who would quit on his own terms later and become a gun for hire, never losing his emnity of Ofdensen, and would be known to us as the Metal Masked Assassin.

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It'd explain a good deal- deal - not only how Ofdensen Offdensen learned his moves, but also how Crozier knew to warn Dr. Rockzo not to fuck around with him. As to why he's not with the Ops anymore... I'd say it was due to a botched assassination that ruined his reputation, an error actually set up by a very jealous partner- partner - a man who would quit on his own terms later and become a gun for hire, never losing his emnity enmity of Ofdensen, Offdensen, and would be known to us as the Metal Masked Assassin.



[[WMG: Mustakrakish is vunerable to technology.]]

When the troll is [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome awakened]] it destroys the electricity and the internet in Finland. Plus, all it took was one little phone to be thrown into it's mouth for it to tear out it's tounge and guts in an attempt to remove the phone.

[[WMG: Ofdensen is Danish or Norwegian.]]

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[[WMG: Mustakrakish is vunerable vulnerable to technology.]]

When the troll is [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic awakened]] it destroys the electricity and the internet in Finland. Plus, all it took was one little phone to be thrown into it's its mouth for it to tear out it's tounge its tongue and guts in an attempt to remove the phone.

[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen is Danish or Norwegian.]]



[[WMG: Ofdensen is German.]]

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[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen is German.]]



[[WMG: Ofdensen is the BarrierMaiden coming between the world and the Metalocalypse]]
Or, you know, whatever the male term is. The reason the world hasn't gone to hell already is because Ofdensen is actually ''preventing'' it, merely by existing and curbing Dethklok's power. And as he got, well, weaker [[spoiler: (the Metal Masked Assassin got quite a number of punches on him in The Revengencers/Sicklok and Ofdensen was winded after his duel with Melmord in Dethsources)]], the world got a lot more chaotic than it has been, even for their world. And now that [[spoiler: Ofdensen is incapacitated, possibly even dead, there's nothing to stop the Metalocalypse from happening.]]
** It's also possible that ''this was Salacia's plan all along'', especially if the WMG that the Metal Masked Assasin is future!Salacia is true. He only does enough in the Tribunal to keep Ofdensen alive until the appointed time of the Metalocalypse [[spoiler: where his past self beats him to death.]]

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[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen is the BarrierMaiden coming between the world and the Metalocalypse]]
Or, you know, whatever the male term is. The reason the world hasn't gone to hell already is because Ofdensen Offdensen is actually ''preventing'' it, merely by existing and curbing Dethklok's power. And as he got, well, weaker [[spoiler: (the Metal Masked Assassin got quite a number of punches on him in The Revengencers/Sicklok and Ofdensen Offdensen was winded after his duel with Melmord in Dethsources)]], the world got a lot more chaotic than it has been, even for their world. And now that [[spoiler: Ofdensen Offdensen is incapacitated, possibly even dead, there's nothing to stop the Metalocalypse from happening.]]
** It's also possible that ''this was Salacia's plan all along'', especially if the WMG that the Metal Masked Assasin Assassin is future!Salacia is true. He only does enough in the Tribunal to keep Ofdensen Offdensen alive until the appointed time of the Metalocalypse [[spoiler: where his past self beats him to death.]]



Their base ability is to be able to channel the power of the various eldritch abominations as well as serve as the beacons to awaken and call them back when the time is right. This is how they were able to awaken Mustakrakish. Ofdensen was serving as a kind of directive force, keeping them safe and together as well as pointing them towards certain venues. He largely doesn't care what they do because he knows the world is doomed regardless and thus is just trying to ensure that he gets a good position when these beings arrive. As for Salacia, we saw him in armor with the guys from Dethklok on it, possibly meaning that he needs them to attain his full power or that he used them to reach his ultimate ascension. Which could also be why he keeps Dethklok from being directly attacked/opposed because it will slow his own plans for ascension.

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Their base ability is to be able to channel the power of the various eldritch abominations as well as serve as the beacons to awaken and call them back when the time is right. This is how they were able to awaken Mustakrakish. Ofdensen Offdensen was serving as a kind of directive force, keeping them safe and together as well as pointing them towards certain venues. He largely doesn't care what they do because he knows the world is doomed regardless and thus is just trying to ensure that he gets a good position when these beings arrive. As for Salacia, we saw him in armor with the guys from Dethklok on it, possibly meaning that he needs them to attain his full power or that he used them to reach his ultimate ascension. Which could also be why he keeps Dethklok from being directly attacked/opposed because it will slow his own plans for ascension.



*** Or he is Salacia, but he faked his death so he could be a double agent for Ofdensen.
** Or he got buffed up and became the Metal Masked Assassin. No other reason behind this line of thought other than the jaws and chins (or al least what can be seen of M.H.'s chin) look the same.
*** That ''would'' explain why he initially went after Toki and Skwisgaar in "The Metalocalypse Has Begun". He was out to get Toki specifically, and Skwisgaar just happened to be along for the ride. Then, of course, Ofdensen intervened, and we know what happened next.

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*** Or he is Salacia, but he faked his death so he could be a double agent for Ofdensen.
Offdensen.
** Or he got buffed up and became the Metal Masked Assassin. No other reason behind this line of thought other than the jaws and chins (or al at least what can be seen of M.H.'s chin) look the same.
*** That ''would'' explain why he initially went after Toki and Skwisgaar in "The Metalocalypse Has Begun". He was out to get Toki specifically, and Skwisgaar just happened to be along for the ride. Then, of course, Ofdensen Offdensen intervened, and we know what happened next.



[[WMG: Ofdensen is actually dead.]]
The caption specifically said "Rest in Peace". They could have conveyed Ofdensen's supposed death just as effectively with their mentions of his passing in the news report montage. The Ofdensen whom the band saw at the end of "Renovationklok" was probably a ghost/collective hallucination serving as a manifestation of their internal motivations to man up and get their shit together.

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[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen is actually dead.]]
The caption specifically said "Rest in Peace". They could have conveyed Ofdensen's Offdensen's supposed death just as effectively with their mentions of his passing in the news report montage. The Ofdensen Offdensen whom the band saw at the end of "Renovationklok" was probably a ghost/collective hallucination serving as a manifestation of their internal motivations to man up and get their shit together.



* Answer: [[spoiler: Kinda confirmed. Ofdensen did literally die because of the actions of Season 2, putting himself straight into the prophecy as The Dead Man.]]

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* Answer: [[spoiler: Kinda confirmed. Ofdensen Offdensen did literally die because of the actions of Season 2, putting himself straight into the prophecy as The Dead Man.]]



* And now we've gotten an 'Offdens'''o'''n spelling (caught by sharper eyes than mine). I'm beginning to think it's ''Ofdensen'' deliberately misspelling his name, to keep people from his ''true'' name, if the whole "Ofdensen is Loki/Balder/what-the-fuck-ever" turns out to be true.

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* And now we've gotten an 'Offdens'''o'''n spelling (caught by sharper eyes than mine). I'm beginning to think it's ''Ofdensen'' ''Offdensen'' deliberately misspelling his name, to keep people from his ''true'' name, if the whole "Ofdensen "Offdensen is Loki/Balder/what-the-fuck-ever" turns out to be true.



Considering he's gotten so far doing nothing, if Toki actually buckled down and began to practice, it's not hard to imagine that he'd surpass Skwisgaar's skills; just as seemed to be predicted by the lead guitarist. Whether Toki would canonically actually do this, much less really attempt to completely surpass Swisgaar, is up for another bit of WMG. But the possibility that he could if he would allow himself to is there.

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Considering he's gotten so far doing nothing, if Toki actually buckled down and began to practice, it's not hard to imagine that he'd surpass Skwisgaar's skills; just as seemed to be predicted by the lead guitarist. Whether Toki would canonically actually do this, much less really attempt to completely surpass Swisgaar, Skwisgaar, is up for another bit of WMG. But the possibility that he could if he would allow himself to is there.



[[WMG: Nathan knew all along that Ofdensen [[spoiler: was alive]]]]
Consider the following: [[spoiler: When Ofdensen had his BigDamnHeroes moment, we see four members of Dethklok with shocked looks on their faces...but we don't see Nathan looking shocked. The next we see Nathan after the big reveal is when he punches Damien (and I think he expected it). That would also be one of the reasons Nathan was holding out on signing a new contract, and convinced the others to not hire a new manager, because he knew Ofdensen was coming back. Those questions he asked Ofdensen as they headed back to Mordhaus was to keep the others from guessing that he knew. Now the question is: does Nathan know ''why'' Ofdensen faked his death for nine months?]]
* If Nathan was behaving differently than he normally did, I would say you had something; but Dethklok is pretty notorious for having a child-like "I'll do it myself!" mentality when it comes to things (the whole premise of their PR company being a nice example). I didn't see it outside of normal behavior for them to take over a role as manager. And, beyond that Dethklok, and Nathan in particular, are always resistant to whatever they don't think is metal or an idea which will make it so that they can't do whatever they want. Regardless of whether he believed that Offdenson was alive or not, I still think he would have reacted just as vehemently against such a rigid contract.
*** I think the somewhat lackluster, non-pissed-off way he asked where he'd been the last nine month is what clinches it for me. I would probably guess that it was more like Nathan didn't ''believe'' Ofdensen was dead rather than knowing he was alive the whole time.

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[[WMG: Nathan knew all along that Ofdensen Offdensen [[spoiler: was alive]]]]
Consider the following: [[spoiler: When Ofdensen Offdensen had his BigDamnHeroes moment, we see four members of Dethklok with shocked looks on their faces...but we don't see Nathan looking shocked. The next we see Nathan after the big reveal is when he punches Damien (and I think he expected it). That would also be one of the reasons Nathan was holding out on signing a new contract, and convinced the others to not hire a new manager, because he knew Ofdensen Offdensen was coming back. Those questions he asked Ofdensen Offdensen as they headed back to Mordhaus was to keep the others from guessing that he knew. Now the question is: does Nathan know ''why'' Ofdensen Offdensen faked his death for nine months?]]
* If Nathan was behaving differently than he normally did, I would say you had something; but Dethklok is pretty notorious for having a child-like "I'll do it myself!" mentality when it comes to things (the whole premise of their PR company being a nice example). I didn't see it outside of normal behavior for them to take over a role as manager. And, beyond that Dethklok, and Nathan in particular, are always resistant to whatever they don't think is metal or an idea which will make it so that they can't do whatever they want. Regardless of whether he believed that Offdenson Offdensen was alive or not, I still think he would have reacted just as vehemently against such a rigid contract.
*** I think the somewhat lackluster, non-pissed-off way he asked where he'd been the last nine month is what clinches it for me. I would probably guess that it was more like Nathan didn't ''believe'' Ofdensen Offdensen was dead rather than knowing he was alive the whole time.



Pickles was rhythm guitarist for Snakes 'n Barrels along with vocals. If he joined Dethklok as a guitarist, it'd be a more high-profile spot for someone already a famous musician. This would also work with the idea of the 'original drummer,' famously seen with Pete Best, Chad Channing, or any of the dozens of Spinal Tap drummers. And according to Brendon Small, Pickles is supposed to be like Roger Taylor from Queen, able to flexibly go where needed. So, the original drummer drops out, Pickles takes up the spot behind the drum kit while Dethklok searches for any new rhythm guitarist, even one not quite as skilled as the rest of the band - as Toki is shown sometimes to be.
* Or possibly, Pickles only meant to be a temporary replacement drummer, and while Dethklok has been looking for a new drummer, found Toki completely by accident. So Pickles ended up permamently on drums, though he might not have originally planned to. It happened to FranzFerdinand, why not Dethklok?

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Pickles was rhythm guitarist for Snakes 'n Barrels along with vocals. If he joined Dethklok as a guitarist, it'd be a more high-profile spot for someone already a famous musician. This would also work with the idea of the 'original drummer,' famously seen with Pete Best, Chad Channing, or any of the dozens of [[Film/ThisIsSpinalTap Spinal Tap Tap]] drummers. And according to Brendon Small, Pickles is supposed to be like Roger Taylor from Queen, Music/{{Queen}}, able to flexibly go where needed. So, the original drummer drops out, Pickles takes up the spot behind the drum kit while Dethklok searches for any new rhythm guitarist, even one not quite as skilled as the rest of the band - as Toki is shown sometimes to be.
* Or possibly, Pickles only meant to be a temporary replacement drummer, and while Dethklok has been looking for a new drummer, found Toki completely by accident. So Pickles ended up permamently permanently on drums, though he might not have originally planned to. It happened to FranzFerdinand, Music/FranzFerdinand, why not Dethklok?






Because he felt threatened by his talent; Skwisgaar looks a lot younger than M.H., and may have had much less experience and practice playing the guitar back then. Killing him and signing Toki on would stabilize his ego and create less friction. The rest of the band either doesn't know, or is just happy that Skwisgaar isn't psychotically jealous anymore; Ofdensen knows, but he will never do anything to compromise Dethklok's success, and so covered it up extremely thoroughly.

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Because he felt threatened by his talent; Skwisgaar looks a lot younger than M.H., and may have had much less experience and practice playing the guitar back then. Killing him and signing Toki on would stabilize his ego and create less friction. The rest of the band either doesn't know, or is just happy that Skwisgaar isn't psychotically jealous anymore; Ofdensen Offdensen knows, but he will never do anything to compromise Dethklok's success, and so covered it up extremely thoroughly.



** It's because Anja and Aslaug ''know'' about Toki's death curse and believe him to be evil. Toki's mother died under unusual circumstances-- not right when he was born, but sometime after he'd actually developed enough brain power to consciously love her. Knowing this, and being able to recognize the signs of that manner of curse, they took him in specifically to purge that evil out of him (hence all the horrible child abuse).

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** It's because Anja and Aslaug ''know'' about Toki's death curse and believe him to be evil. Toki's mother died under unusual circumstances-- circumstances -- not right when he was born, but sometime after he'd actually developed enough brain power to consciously love her. Knowing this, and being able to recognize the signs of that manner of curse, they took him in specifically to purge that evil out of him (hence all the horrible child abuse).



** Another theory, what if his father is [[spoiler: Selactia?]] And if he takes power after the Metalocalypse, which is what he wants all along, what if he offers Skwisgaar a seat of power on the throne?

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** Another theory, what if his father is [[spoiler: Selactia?]] Salacia?]] And if he takes power after the Metalocalypse, which is what he wants all along, what if he offers Skwisgaar a seat of power on the throne?



* Perhaps they were close, but Swisgaar doesn't really hate Toki. Whenever anyone is really looking to hurt him, it's Skwisgaar who puts a stop to it (note when Pickles starts talking about killing Toki, it's Swisgaar who very adamantly disagrees); and not to mention that Swisgaar seems to go out of his way to be with Toki (how many times are they off to the side and talking without any mandate at all). I think more of his treatment comes from a fierce paranoia of losing his rank and acting like an older brother, more than real hatred. If he did resent Toki, he got over it.

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* Perhaps they were close, but Swisgaar Skwisgaar doesn't really hate Toki. Whenever anyone is really looking to hurt him, it's Skwisgaar who puts a stop to it (note when Pickles starts talking about killing Toki, it's Swisgaar Skwisgaar who very adamantly disagrees); and not to mention that Swisgaar Skwisgaar seems to go out of his way to be with Toki (how many times are they off to the side and talking without any mandate at all). I think more of his treatment comes from a fierce paranoia of losing his rank and acting like an older brother, more than real hatred. If he did resent Toki, he got over it.



*** Alternatively it’s possible that Toki resents M.H. because he THINKS that Swisgaar liked M.H. better. Sort of a strange sibling rivalry sort of thing.

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*** Alternatively it’s it's possible that Toki resents M.H. because he THINKS that Swisgaar Skwisgaar liked M.H. better. Sort of a strange sibling rivalry sort of thing.



[[WMG: Ofdensen is Brendon Small. Not that Brendon Small, the [[HomeMovies Other Brendon Small.]]]]

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[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen is Brendon Small. Not that Brendon Small, the [[HomeMovies [[WesternAnimation/HomeMovies Other Brendon Small.]]]]



Any good eschatoglogical story always comes with fore warnings. Like [[Literature/TheBible Revelations]] foretelling the Apocalypse, the songs on both Dethalbums allude to the end of the Metalocalypse world.

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Any good eschatoglogical eschatological story always comes with fore warnings. Like [[Literature/TheBible Revelations]] foretelling the Apocalypse, the songs on both Dethalbums allude to the end of the Metalocalypse world.



Brendon Small has spent too much time this Season on meaningless Episodes like ''Dethmas.'' He logically has to answer the questions he created in ''Renovationklok'' at some point. Creator/AdultSwim says that 305 will be called Fatherklok, but {{Wikipedia}} insists that it will be called [[TonightSomeoneDies Dethdeath.]]
* That's nothing new though. Generally the first half of a season is mostly gags, while the second half touches the MythArc of the series. As for Skwisgaar dying, it's plausible, but it'd be really ballsy of Brendon Small to do that...unless Skwisgaar was a RedHerring and M.H. was meant to be the fifth member in the Metalocalypse all along. Either that, or he'll be PutOnABus, and become the ChekhovsGunman for Ofdensen.

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Brendon Small has spent too much time this Season on meaningless Episodes like ''Dethmas.'' He logically has to answer the questions he created in ''Renovationklok'' at some point. Creator/AdultSwim says that 305 will be called Fatherklok, but {{Wikipedia}} Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} insists that it will be called [[TonightSomeoneDies Dethdeath.]]
* That's nothing new though. Generally the first half of a season is mostly gags, while the second half touches the MythArc of the series. As for Skwisgaar dying, it's plausible, but it'd be really ballsy of Brendon Small to do that...unless Skwisgaar was a RedHerring and M.H. was meant to be the fifth member in the Metalocalypse all along. Either that, or he'll be PutOnABus, and become the ChekhovsGunman for Ofdensen.Offdensen.



* Episode 45 (or 305, if you prefer) IS called "Dethdeath", according to the AS wiki. "Fatherklok" is actually episode 47, which merely got produced and aired before 45 and 46. Someone on {{Wikipedia}} got the two episodes confused and combined their descriptions.

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* Episode 45 (or 305, if you prefer) IS called "Dethdeath", according to the AS wiki. "Fatherklok" is actually episode 47, which merely got produced and aired before 45 and 46. Someone on {{Wikipedia}} Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} got the two episodes confused and combined their descriptions.



All the corresponding instruments in the writings? Coincidental. Or deliberately assembled to put the Tribunal off from the ''real'' Metalocalypse bringers. Two I have no idea who'd they be but the other three? Salacia, Orlagg, and Ofdensen.
* And the Metal Masked Assassin's job was to prevent that from happening, which is why he went for the weakest one: Ofdensen.
* [[spoiler: More of less Jossed, Ofdensen and Salacia have their own roles in the prophecy.]]

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All the corresponding instruments in the writings? Coincidental. Or deliberately assembled to put the Tribunal off from the ''real'' Metalocalypse bringers. Two I have no idea who'd they be but the other three? Salacia, Orlagg, Orlaag, and Ofdensen.
Offdensen.
* And the Metal Masked Assassin's job was to prevent that from happening, which is why he went for the weakest one: Ofdensen.
Offdensen.
* [[spoiler: More of less Jossed, Ofdensen Offdensen and Salacia have their own roles in the prophecy.]]



[[WMG: Ofdensen is Skwisgaar's father.]]

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[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen is Skwisgaar's father.]]



-->'''Ofdensen:'''"I mean he could have left, [[HesitationEqualsDishonesty uh,]] right after the deed was done, you know?. Never even held you[[HesitationEqualsDishonesty ...]] in his arms. The mighty strength of a[[HesitationEqualsDishonesty ...]] father's touch. Lost, forever. Gone. My father had strong hands."
* To me, that says more about Ofdensen than Skwisgaar; imho, it sounds like Ofdensen lost his father at some point in his childhood and he just remembers his hands.
* Hesitation may usually equal dishonesty, but in Ofdensen's case is like his own very subtle little VerbalTic. He can barely get through even the most simple sentences without doing it at least once.
* The emphasis on that bit of exposition fits in with the possibility that Salacia himself might be Ofdensen's father.

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-->'''Ofdensen:'''"I -->'''Offdensen:'''"I mean he could have left, [[HesitationEqualsDishonesty uh,]] right after the deed was done, you know?. Never even held you[[HesitationEqualsDishonesty ...]] in his arms. The mighty strength of a[[HesitationEqualsDishonesty ...]] father's touch. Lost, forever. Gone. My father had strong hands."
* To me, that says more about Ofdensen Offdensen than Skwisgaar; imho, IMHO, it sounds like Ofdensen Offdensen lost his father at some point in his childhood and he just remembers his hands.
* Hesitation may usually equal dishonesty, but in Ofdensen's Offdensen's case is like his own very subtle little VerbalTic. He can barely get through even the most simple sentences without doing it at least once.
* The emphasis on that bit of exposition fits in with the possibility that Salacia himself might be Ofdensen's Offdensen's father.



Skwisgaar: Serveta is actually barren, hence the thousands of men but no children- remember, she had sex with literally THOUSANDS of men in just one month, but only got pregnant once. She was impregnated by a god, because gods can do whatever the fuck they want. Skwisgaar is the son of the god of life, hence all the babies- even if he did use a condom, it wouldn?t be enough to stop his godly sperm impregnating everyone with an operating womb he meets.

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Skwisgaar: Serveta is actually barren, hence the thousands of men but no children- remember, she had sex with literally THOUSANDS of men in just one month, but only got pregnant once. She was impregnated by a god, because gods can do whatever the fuck they want. Skwisgaar is the son of the god of life, hence all the babies- babies - even if he did use a condom, it wouldn?t wouldn't be enough to stop his godly sperm impregnating everyone with an operating womb he meets.



Toki: Toki was conceived by a mortal woman (Anja) from a god- seduction or controlled her, or something. Aslaug didn't leave his wife because their religion forbids it. Hence all the beatings, because a child born in wedlock is a child of sin, and needs to have it beaten out of him. His father is the god of death, and Toki keeps killing people because he doesn't know how to control his powers.
* Perhaps Toki's father is the ancient norse god Orstaag the Tooth Collector.

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Toki: Toki was conceived by a mortal woman (Anja) from a god- god - seduction or controlled her, or something. Aslaug didn't leave his wife because their religion forbids it. Hence all the beatings, because a child born in wedlock is a child of sin, and needs to have it beaten out of him. His father is the god of death, and Toki keeps killing people because he doesn't know how to control his powers.
* Perhaps Toki's father is the ancient norse Norse god Orstaag the Tooth Collector.



* In a discussion of Dethklok and godly counterparts, this Troper once heard Pickles compared to Dionysus, who according to greek myth, invented the process of making wine - in his youth no less. Also note that [[spoiler: in the upcoming episode, 'Breakupklok' after quitting the band Pickles is attempting to open a vineyard, with the intent of making the most alcoholic wine in the world.]] Dionysus is pretty much the Greek God of partying and getting wasted, so Pickles as a god of wine and ecstasy? That seems to fit pretty well.

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* In a discussion of Dethklok and godly counterparts, this Troper once heard Pickles compared to Dionysus, who according to greek Greek myth, invented the process of making wine - in his youth no less. Also note that [[spoiler: in the upcoming episode, 'Breakupklok' after quitting the band Pickles is attempting to open a vineyard, with the intent of making the most alcoholic wine in the world.]] Dionysus is pretty much the Greek God of partying and getting wasted, so Pickles as a god of wine and ecstasy? That seems to fit pretty well.



* Alternatively, Murderface could be a god of war or bloodlust. He revels in being a jerk and pitting people against each other (even said he admired this trait in Twinkletits). He has said before that's its hard for him to suppress the urge to ruin other people's lives. The other band members have marvelled at how talented he is at just being a complete dick and driving people apart. Also, there is his fascination with “Morbid Crap”, and notably his obsession with the Civil War. He incites extreme hatred in those around him, so much so that the band greatly suffered from a lack of darkness in his absence, as Pickles, Skwisgaar and Nathan worked together too cohesively and productively without him. These powers may have manifested unknowingly while he was still an infant, perhaps even driving his father insane with hatred and bloodlust, to the point of murder/suicide.
** Additionally, despite his need to ruin lives, Murderface is constantly seeking out authoratative roles and positions of power, such as attempting to place himself as head of the band claiming he is the lead song writer to the media (a blatant lie that he is called on). This is also seen in the season two finale when he placed himself as Band Fire Chief, as well as in Dethgov when he immediately volunteers as Head of the National Guard. This could be another facet of the War God persona, that is the idea of war as conquest. Unfortunately for Murderface, this completely clashes with the hatred he inspires in others towards him.

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* Alternatively, Murderface could be a god of war or bloodlust. He revels in being a jerk and pitting people against each other (even said he admired this trait in Twinkletits). He has said before that's its that it's hard for him to suppress the urge to ruin other people's lives. The other band members have marvelled marveled at how talented he is at just being a complete dick and driving people apart. Also, there is his fascination with “Morbid Crap”, "Morbid Crap," and notably his obsession with the Civil War. He incites extreme hatred in those around him, so much so that the band greatly suffered from a lack of darkness in his absence, as Pickles, Skwisgaar and Nathan worked together too cohesively and productively without him. These powers may have manifested unknowingly while he was still an infant, perhaps even driving his father insane with hatred and bloodlust, to the point of murder/suicide.
** Additionally, despite his need to ruin lives, Murderface is constantly seeking out authoratative authoritative roles and positions of power, such as attempting to place himself as head of the band claiming he is the lead song writer to the media (a blatant lie that he is called on). This is also seen in the season two finale when he placed himself as Band Fire Chief, as well as in Dethgov when he immediately volunteers as Head of the National Guard. This could be another facet of the War God persona, that is the idea of war as conquest. Unfortunately for Murderface, this completely clashes with the hatred he inspires in others towards him.



[[WMG: Ofdensen is a god charged with watching over Dethklok and also is Skwisgarr's father]]
All of the boys are children of gods, and Ofdensen fathered Skwisgarr, hence his fatherly moment with him. He's been assigned by the gods to watch over and protect them until the Metalocalypse. He maybe be Loki and being punished; Loki fathered, among other creatures, a wolf (the animals that watched over Skwisgarr and led to him finding his guitar). Loki is also foretold to fight the gods during Ragnarok and mutually slay and be slain by "the White God", which might also be a reference to [[spoiler: his fight with the Masked Assassin.]]

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[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen is a god charged with watching over Dethklok and also is Skwisgarr's Skwisgaar's father]]
All of the boys are children of gods, and Ofdensen fathered Skwisgarr, Skwisgaar, hence his fatherly moment with him. He's been assigned by the gods to watch over and protect them until the Metalocalypse. He maybe be Loki and being punished; Loki fathered, among other creatures, a wolf (the animals that watched over Skwisgarr Skwisgaar and led to him finding his guitar). Loki is also foretold to fight the gods during Ragnarok and mutually slay and be slain by "the White God", which might also be a reference to [[spoiler: his fight with the Masked Assassin.]]



[[WMG: Selatcia is a God King, and the real father of ALL members of Dethklok]]

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[[WMG: Selatcia Salacia is a God King, and the real father of ALL members of Dethklok]]



All the members of Dethklok are actually Selatcia's sons, his most powerful godly sons. Selatcia is going to use them to bring about a reign of new gods, with Dethklok as members of the new Pantheon.
Dethklok must remain a complete unit, none of them powerful enough to bring about the Metalocalypse without all of the other members of the band. Their stability as a group is instrumental to Selatcia's plans; thus why the only thing that causes Selatcia to act is threats to Dethklok's progression in bringing about the Metalocalypse [[spoiler: or Dethklok themselves deciding to break-up]]. The Metalocalypse is actually not inevitable, just very possible. It can possibly be stopped by outside forces. Selatcia is using every possible means to see that the Metalocalypse comes to fruition.

[[WMG:Pickles' real first name is Patrick.]]

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All the members of Dethklok are actually Selatcia's Salacia's sons, his most powerful godly sons. Selatcia Salacia is going to use them to bring about a reign of new gods, with Dethklok as members of the new Pantheon.
Dethklok must remain a complete unit, none of them powerful enough to bring about the Metalocalypse without all of the other members of the band. Their stability as a group is instrumental to Selatcia's Salacia's plans; thus why the only thing that causes Selatcia to act is threats to Dethklok's progression in bringing about the Metalocalypse [[spoiler: or Dethklok themselves deciding to break-up]]. The Metalocalypse is actually not inevitable, just very possible. It can possibly be stopped by outside forces. Selatcia is using every possible means to see that the Metalocalypse comes to fruition.

[[WMG:Pickles' [[WMG: Pickles' real first name is Patrick.]]



[[WMG:Pickles' real first name is Dylan.]]

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[[WMG:Pickles' [[WMG: Pickles' real first name is Dylan.]]



Nathan - Metal. He's solid, inflexible, and just intimately connected with his music-- which ''is'' metal. This will make him the true harbinger of the Metalocalypse.

* These alignments can be applied (to varying degrees) to the music video at the beginning of Dethwater. Toki dies by fire, Murderface is a gravedigger, Pickles gets his head kicked through as if it were liquid, Skwisgar resides in a high tower, and Nathan, the fifth element and thus the one above all others, slaughters them all.

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Nathan - Metal. He's solid, inflexible, and just intimately connected with his music-- music -- which ''is'' metal. This will make him the true harbinger of the Metalocalypse.

* These alignments can be applied (to varying degrees) to the music video at the beginning of Dethwater. Toki dies by fire, Murderface is a gravedigger, Pickles gets his head kicked through as if it were liquid, Skwisgar Skwisgaar resides in a high tower, and Nathan, the fifth element and thus the one above all others, slaughters them all.



[[WMG: Ofdensen is actually [[Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia Austria]].]]
Taking into account of that WMG that purports that Charles deliberately mispells his name, as well as his seeming immortality (because [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat no one could've survived that]] NoHoldsBarredBeatdown the Masked Assassin dished out), this is the real reason Ofdensen is almost abnormally powerful despite being a bookish kind of guy. This also explains his unusually high tolerance for the insanity surrounding Dethklok (since the Nation-tans themselves are pretty crazy) and why he always dresses so impeccably. And since so many economies of the world depend on Dethklok's record sales, who better than an actual Nation to help handle Dethklok's finances and law troubles?

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[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen is actually [[Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia Austria]].]]
Taking into account of that WMG that purports that Charles deliberately mispells misspells his name, as well as his seeming immortality (because [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat no one could've survived that]] NoHoldsBarredBeatdown the Masked Assassin dished out), this is the real reason Ofdensen is almost abnormally powerful despite being a bookish kind of guy. This also explains his unusually high tolerance for the insanity surrounding Dethklok (since the Nation-tans themselves are pretty crazy) and why he always dresses so impeccably. And since so many economies of the world depend on Dethklok's record sales, who better than an actual Nation to help handle Dethklok's finances and law troubles?



* Salacia is an aged Prussia, trying to get back his former glory by any means necessary. Including making a deal with ''something'' to get the powers he's exhibited so far. He wears contacts because red eyes are an obvious sign that something ain't right. The reason Ofdensen/Austria has to resort to using Dethklok to stop him is [[CassandraTruth no one believes him when he says Prussia's still a threat]]. Incidentally, this makes the Prussia=EastGermany WMG less likely to be true.

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* Salacia is an aged Prussia, trying to get back his former glory by any means necessary. Including making a deal with ''something'' to get the powers he's exhibited so far. He wears contacts because red eyes are an obvious sign that something ain't right. The reason Ofdensen/Austria Offdensen/Austria has to resort to using Dethklok to stop him is [[CassandraTruth no one believes him when he says Prussia's still a threat]]. Incidentally, this makes the Prussia=EastGermany WMG less likely to be true.



Firstly, the only people that seem to be aware of the Metalocalypse prophecy are the Tribunal. It also appears that they get this information from Salacia. On this presumption, I believe that Salacia is attempting to bring about the Metalocalypse by keeping the band and the Tribunal ignorant of the true nature of the Metalocalypse. He has brought together the most powerful idviduals/organizations from numerous fields and then... he waits. He always waits because the more interference that the band encounters the more aware of their powers (The band effortlessly raised Mustakrakish)and the world around them. The only reason the Tribunal exists is to prevent interference with the band, their are no free agents.

Some will point that the bands music and actions are exceedingly violent. I agree, but look at the organization they have built, five people and Ofdenson have built an economy that rivals nations and when the band is threatened, their fans and klokateers sometime display both a proficiency for cooperation, and willful self-sacrifice. The band's role in the Metalocalypse is to avert it/end it/lead mankind through it. The more ignorant the band remains, the more likely the world's destruction in the Metalocalypse.

Mr. Salacia's recent activity is spurred by the actions of the Metal Masked Assassin. The MMA and his organization was something not forseen by Salacia. Now that his plan of non-interference have been shattered by outside influences, Salaicia prepares to do battle.

[[WMG:Ofdensen's disappearance coincides with the conception and birth of a child.]]

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Firstly, the only people that seem to be aware of the Metalocalypse prophecy are the Tribunal. It also appears that they get this information from Salacia. On this presumption, I believe that Salacia is attempting to bring about the Metalocalypse by keeping the band and the Tribunal ignorant of the true nature of the Metalocalypse. He has brought together the most powerful idviduals/organizations individuals/organizations from numerous fields and then... he waits. He always waits because the more interference that the band encounters the more aware of their powers (The band effortlessly raised Mustakrakish)and the world around them. The only reason the Tribunal exists is to prevent interference with the band, their are no free agents.

Some will point that the bands music and actions are exceedingly violent. I agree, but look at the organization they have built, five people and Ofdenson Offdensen have built an economy that rivals nations and when the band is threatened, their fans and klokateers sometime display both a proficiency for cooperation, and willful self-sacrifice. The band's role in the Metalocalypse is to avert it/end it/lead mankind through it. The more ignorant the band remains, the more likely the world's destruction in the Metalocalypse.

Mr. Salacia's recent activity is spurred by the actions of the Metal Masked Assassin. The MMA and his organization was something not forseen foreseen by Salacia. Now that his plan of non-interference have been shattered by outside influences, Salaicia Salacia prepares to do battle.

[[WMG:Ofdensen's [[WMG: Offdensen's disappearance coincides with the conception and birth of a child.]]



[[WMG: Ofdensen was piloting the helicopter that set up the fire in Dethstars.]]

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[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen was piloting the helicopter that set up the fire in Dethstars.]]



If the producer hadn't dropped his cigar into the oil the helicopter spilled Ofdensen would have tossed a flame down too.

[[WMG: Ofdensen has a [[CodeGeass Geass]]]]
The above WMG made me think that maybe Ofdensen doesn't have the capability to pilot a helicopter (it wouldn't be completely out of character for him to know how, but honestly, when would he find the time to learn?), but he ''does'' have the ability to control someone with a Geass, much like Lelouch did. This is how he got Dethklok's contract in the first place, and how everything seems to go Dethklok's way-because he willed it.

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If the producer hadn't dropped his cigar into the oil the helicopter spilled Ofdensen Offdensen would have tossed a flame down too.

[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen has a [[CodeGeass [[Franchise/CodeGeass Geass]]]]
The above WMG made me think that maybe Ofdensen Offdensen doesn't have the capability to pilot a helicopter (it wouldn't be completely out of character for him to know how, but honestly, when would he find the time to learn?), but he ''does'' have the ability to control someone with a Geass, much like Lelouch did. This is how he got Dethklok's contract in the first place, and how everything seems to go Dethklok's way-because he willed it.



[[WMG: ''Nathan'' has a Geass, and Ofdensen is the Code Bearer that gave it to Nathan.]]
Nathan's Geass's ability is controlling someone, but through a compelling voice (such as the protagonist in Code Geass: Lost Colors), explaining how his music influences people to violence, and how when he tells someone to do something, they hop to it (case in point: the director hanging himself). This ''also'' explains how Ofdensen survived "Black Fire Upon Us"; as an immortal, Ofdensen can take heavy amounts of damage and easily recover from it.

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[[WMG: ''Nathan'' has a Geass, and Ofdensen Offdensen is the Code Bearer that gave it to Nathan.]]
Nathan's Geass's Geass' ability is controlling someone, but through a compelling voice (such as the protagonist in Code Geass: Lost Colors), explaining how his music influences people to violence, and how when he tells someone to do something, they hop to it (case in point: the director hanging himself). This ''also'' explains how Ofdensen Offdensen survived "Black Fire Upon Us"; as an immortal, Ofdensen Offdensen can take heavy amounts of damage and easily recover from it.



*** Somehow, whether from Ofdensen or another Code Bearer (Salacia, maybe?), his mother Serveta had a Geass that did the ''reverse'' of this, making men shoot blanks when they have sex with her. The ''one time'' she forgets to Geass someone led to Skwisgaar's conception. Either that or Skwisgaar's father has the anti-Geass like Jeremiah had.

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*** Somehow, whether from Ofdensen Offdensen or another Code Bearer (Salacia, maybe?), his mother Serveta had a Geass that did the ''reverse'' of this, making men shoot blanks when they have sex with her. The ''one time'' she forgets to Geass someone led to Skwisgaar's conception. Either that or Skwisgaar's father has the anti-Geass like Jeremiah had.



** And just for fun, playing on the naming convention of the two Code Bearers, C.C. (pronounced See-Two) and V.V. (pronounced Vee-Two), Ofdensen, if anything, would be O.O. (pronounced Oh-Two) Aka Oxygen.

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** And just for fun, playing on the naming convention of the two Code Bearers, C.C. (pronounced See-Two) and V.V. (pronounced Vee-Two), Ofdensen, Offdensen, if anything, would be O.O. (pronounced Oh-Two) Aka Oxygen.



[[WMG: WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon and TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} are both set in the future of the Metalocalypse universe, and are the products of Dethklok's subconscious reality warping powers.]]

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[[WMG: WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon and TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 are both set in the future of the Metalocalypse universe, and are the products of Dethklok's subconscious reality warping powers.]]



[[http://community.livejournal.com/dethklokminute/207032.html DVD info for Season 3 was recently released.]] Take note of what the set will be called: 'The Dead Man'. The reason given was the (supposed) assassination of Ofdensen, but the problem with that is the two previous DVD sets. Both were named for the final episode of the season, 'The Metalocalypse Has Begun' and 'Black Fire Upon Us' respectively. My guess is, 'The Dead Man' is this season's finale, and someone will die for real during it. As to who? The running guess is Ofdensen will be KilledOffForReal.
** "The Dead Man" refers to Ofdensen because of something that happened in the episode "Doublebookedklok".
*** Which, in "Church of the Black Klok" turned out to be [[spoiler: Ofdensen DID die, rendering himself invisible to Salacia.]]

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[[http://community.livejournal.com/dethklokminute/207032.html DVD info for Season 3 was recently released.]] Take note of what the set will be called: 'The Dead Man'. The reason given was the (supposed) assassination of Ofdensen, Offdensen, but the problem with that is the two previous DVD sets. Both were named for the final episode of the season, 'The Metalocalypse Has Begun' and 'Black Fire Upon Us' respectively. My guess is, 'The Dead Man' is this season's finale, and someone will die for real during it. As to who? The running guess is Ofdensen Offdensen will be KilledOffForReal.
** "The Dead Man" refers to Ofdensen Offdensen because of something that happened in the episode "Doublebookedklok".
*** Which, in "Church of the Black Klok" turned out to be [[spoiler: Ofdensen Offdensen DID die, rendering himself invisible to Salacia.]]]]



* Him having more illnesses may also explain why in flashbacks to when he was 6, his younger brother was so much bigger than him

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* Him having more illnesses may also explain why in flashbacks to when he was 6, his younger brother was so much bigger than him
him.



[[WMG: There are now two Ofdensens, and this is the reason for the different spellings; Offdensen and Ofdensen are different people.]]

After Renovationklok, there are two Ofdensens: the one with the scar, and the one without the scar. There are two possible explanations-

A) He has a body double, because Ofdensen has too much important stuff going on to deal with the day-to-day asshattery that goes on with the boys. They don't need his direct presence more than they need his behind-the-scenes management, so he's arranged for a body double, possibly so dedicated and loyal as to have plastic surgery, to take care of that for him. This might also explain his unusually personable words to Skwisgaar during Fatherklok-- he's not actually Ofdensen and hasn't had years of under-appreciation and cynicism to dampen his desire for closeness with the band.

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[[WMG: There are now two Ofdensens, Offdensens, and this is the reason for the different spellings; Offdensen and Ofdensen are different people.]]

After Renovationklok, there are two Ofdensens: Offdensens: the one with the scar, and the one without the scar. There are two possible explanations-

A) He has a body double, because Ofdensen has too much important stuff going on to deal with the day-to-day asshattery that goes on with the boys. They don't need his direct presence more than they need his behind-the-scenes management, so he's arranged for a body double, possibly so dedicated and loyal as to have plastic surgery, to take care of that for him. This might also explain his unusually personable words to Skwisgaar during Fatherklok-- Fatherklok -- he's not actually Ofdensen and hasn't had years of under-appreciation and cynicism to dampen his desire for closeness with the band.



Whatever happened to him, is the same thing that happened to Salacia; the difference is that Dethklok ''wanted'' Ofdensen to survive, rather than Salacia having been invested with the power of metal by accident, and so they willed him back to life. This is why Salacia wants their power-- he's the only one who knows what it can ''really'' do.

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Whatever happened to him, is the same thing that happened to Salacia; the difference is that Dethklok ''wanted'' Ofdensen Offdensen to survive, rather than Salacia having been invested with the power of metal by accident, and so they willed him back to life. This is why Salacia wants their power-- power -- he's the only one who knows what it can ''really'' do.



[[WMG: Ofdensen is to Nathan what [[WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}} Owen was to Xanatos]]]]
Spoilers for ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' ahead: [[spoiler: In the series, we find out that Owen is actually [[TheFairFolk Puck]], who had been banished by Oberon for his affinity for humans and his loyalty to David Xanatos, which had been earned when he gave Xanatos a choice: One wish as Puck, or lifetime loyal service as Owen. Xanatos chose Owen. Perhaps Ofdensen is another of Oberon's Children, who also had been fond of humans, and, assmuming the identity of Ofdensen, crossed paths with Nathan. He was impressed enough with Nathan that he made the same offer as Puck: one wish as his Third Race identity, or lifetime loyal service as Ofdensen. Now, Nathan's not the sharpest person, but he does have his moments of profound clarity, and this was one of them, realizing that lifetime loyalty was the better choice, and choosing so. Thus, Nathan had a loyal ally that would help him achieve his dream: to be in the greatest metal band ever. The rest is history.]]

[[WMG: Ofdensen used to be in a band.]]
Check [=RehabKlok=]. [[spoiler: In the first song, while Pickles is bitching about having to go to rehab, Ofdensen's the one on drums.]]

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[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen is to Nathan what [[WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}} Owen was to Xanatos]]]]
Spoilers for ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' ahead: [[spoiler: In the series, we find out that Owen is actually [[TheFairFolk Puck]], who had been banished by Oberon for his affinity for humans and his loyalty to David Xanatos, which had been earned when he gave Xanatos a choice: One wish as Puck, or lifetime loyal service as Owen. Xanatos chose Owen. Perhaps Ofdensen Offdensen is another of Oberon's Children, who also had been fond of humans, and, assmuming assuming the identity of Ofdensen, Offdensen, crossed paths with Nathan. He was impressed enough with Nathan that he made the same offer as Puck: one wish as his Third Race identity, or lifetime loyal service as Ofdensen.Offdensen. Now, Nathan's not the sharpest person, but he does have his moments of profound clarity, and this was one of them, realizing that lifetime loyalty was the better choice, and choosing so. Thus, Nathan had a loyal ally that would help him achieve his dream: to be in the greatest metal band ever. The rest is history.]]

[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen used to be in a band.]]
Check [=RehabKlok=]. [[spoiler: In the first song, while Pickles is bitching about having to go to rehab, Ofdensen's Offdensen's the one on drums.]]



And for reasons-possibly his original manager mismanaging it or insisting that SNB get back together-Pickles fired his original manager and hired Ofdensen, meaning Ofdensen has a foot in the door when Pickles joins Dethklok.

[[WMG: Ofdensen is one of many clones.]]
This is a variation on the "There are now two Ofdensens" theory shown above, but with a twist. Has anyone considered that there may be more than two versions of Ofdensen? Think about it: [[spoiler:The scar hasn't been seen since the first episode of Season 3]], and the suits have been darkening, which could indicate that each time we see Ofdensen, it's a different person in a different suit. Considering the way violent events tend to find the band and hurt the people around them, maybe [[spoiler:Ofdensen keeps dying and]] they need to replace Ofdensen every so often with a clone. The nine months between when [[spoiler:Ofdensen was declared dead]] and when [[spoiler:he returned to the band]] could have been when the Klokateers were creating a new Ofdensen (the others could have burned up or been destroyed during the fire in the Season 2 finale). To top it off, Ofdensen's name has been spelled in more than one way on the show, which could be the writers messing with us... or could be that each clone spells their name differently?

On the plus side, if it's true, we'll never have to worry about [[spoiler:Ofdensen being gone for good]].

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And for reasons-possibly his original manager mismanaging it or insisting that SNB get back together-Pickles fired his original manager and hired Ofdensen, Offdensen, meaning Ofdensen Offdensen has a foot in the door when Pickles joins Dethklok.

[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen is one of many clones.]]
This is a variation on the "There are now two Ofdensens" Offdensens" theory shown above, but with a twist. Has anyone considered that there may be more than two versions of Ofdensen? Offdensen? Think about it: [[spoiler:The [[spoiler: The scar hasn't been seen since the first episode of Season 3]], and the suits have been darkening, which could indicate that each time we see Ofdensen, Offdensen, it's a different person in a different suit. Considering the way violent events tend to find the band and hurt the people around them, maybe [[spoiler:Ofdensen [[spoiler: Offdensen keeps dying and]] they need to replace Ofdensen Offdensen every so often with a clone. The nine months between when [[spoiler:Ofdensen [[spoiler: Offdensen was declared dead]] and when [[spoiler:he [[spoiler: he returned to the band]] could have been when the Klokateers were creating a new Ofdensen Offdensen (the others could have burned up or been destroyed during the fire in the Season 2 finale). To top it off, Ofdensen's Offdensen's name has been spelled in more than one way on the show, which could be the writers messing with us... or could be that each clone spells their name differently?

On the plus side, if it's true, we'll never have to worry about [[spoiler:Ofdensen [[spoiler: Offdensen being gone for good]].



[[WMG:CFO is Salacia's son.]]
* Eh...most people, if they do think Ofdensen's related to someone in the tribunal, gun for Crozier.

[[WMG: Ofdensen is attracted to Nathan.]]

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[[WMG:CFO [[WMG: CFO is Salacia's son.]]
* Eh...most people, if they do think Ofdensen's Offdensen's related to someone in the tribunal, gun for Crozier.

[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen is attracted to Nathan.]]



* Here's something else to note: Ofdensen was cool with the roaster insulting the other band mates, even cracking a smile once or twice. It's only when he starts to insult ''Nathan'' that Ofdensen puts a hit out on him.

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* Here's something else to note: Ofdensen Offdensen was cool with the roaster insulting the other band mates, even cracking a smile once or twice. It's only when he starts to insult ''Nathan'' that Ofdensen Offdensen puts a hit out on him.



* Let's just say there's a reason Nathan and Ofdensen are linked in some of these [=WMGs=]

[[WMG: Ofdensen was [[TouchedByVorlons Touched By Salacia]]]]
[[spoiler: Because he ''did'' see Salacia brainwash Crozier and quite possibly saw the same visions Crozier did, Salacia accidentally gave Ofdensen powers. These manifested the most in Ofdensen's sixth sense about the band (particularly when they go missing) and when he kicked the machine, fixing it (mostly). This also explains the final shot of the episode: Ofdensen, with a quick lightning flash to Salacia before going back to Ofdensen. In short, Ofdensen and Salacia are now equals.]]

[[WMG: There are two Ofdensens and one of them will become Salacia.]]

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* Let's just say there's a reason Nathan and Ofdensen Offdensen are linked in some of these [=WMGs=]

[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen was [[TouchedByVorlons Touched By Salacia]]]]
[[spoiler: Because he ''did'' see Salacia brainwash Crozier and quite possibly saw the same visions Crozier did, Salacia accidentally gave Ofdensen Offdensen powers. These manifested the most in Ofdensen's Offdensen's sixth sense about the band (particularly when they go missing) and when he kicked the machine, fixing it (mostly). This also explains the final shot of the episode: Ofdensen, with a quick lightning flash to Salacia before going back to Ofdensen. Offdensen. In short, Ofdensen Offdensen and Salacia are now equals.]]

[[WMG: There are two Ofdensens Offdensens and one of them will become Salacia.]]



Scarred Ofdensen and Unscarred Ofdensen are two different people who were both subject to Salacia's power upon witnessing [[spoiler: Salacia take over Crozier's mind]]. Scarred Ofdensen used that power to go back in time and rescue his past self from the Assassin, and spent the nine months he was gone explaining everything he knew to his unscarred self. He came back to rescue the band and then left his unscarred self to run things while he continued investigating the Tribunal.

Now that Unscarred Ofdsensen has supernatural powers and has effectively died for Dethklok once before, he's watching his work and his dedication go unappreciated and is slowly growing bitter, not just for himself, but his Scarred Other Self is ''still'' working behind the scenes, unappreciated and completely forgotten (since none of the band seem to have even noticed that the scar is gone). Eventually, he'll grow dissatisfied with his situation, and go back in time to orchestrate the Metalocalypse so that he can take their power, whether because he can't let Dethklok have it (because they'll destroy the world) or because he wants it for himself (as a payoff for everything he's done so far). He will need to use Time Travel Face Bag technology and go back in time at the speed of regular time, which is why Salacia is as old as he is.

This is further supported by Vater Orlaag's words [[spoiler:that no one but those inside the secret chamber (Orlaag, Salacia, and Crozier) knows about Salacia when wondering whether Ofdensen knows or not; if Ofdensen ''is'' Salacia, it's still true.]]


[[WMG: Salacia brought Ofdensen back to life.]]

Ofdensen died at the end of Season 2 and Salacia brought him back to life and is controlling his body. Ofdensen is now Salacia's mole inside Dethklok and his plans with Project Falconback are really Salacia's.

There will eventually be a battle of wills between the real spirit of Ofdensen and Salacia over control of Ofdensen's body.
* [[spoiler: Jossed]]

[[WMG: Ofdensen seeks to oppose Salacia to prevent the Metalocalypse]]

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Scarred Ofdensen Offdensen and Unscarred Ofdensen Offdensen are two different people who were both subject to Salacia's power upon witnessing [[spoiler: Salacia take over Crozier's mind]]. Scarred Ofdensen Offdensen used that power to go back in time and rescue his past self from the Assassin, and spent the nine months he was gone explaining everything he knew to his unscarred self. He came back to rescue the band and then left his unscarred self to run things while he continued investigating the Tribunal.

Now that Unscarred Ofdsensen Offdensen has supernatural powers and has effectively died for Dethklok once before, he's watching his work and his dedication go unappreciated and is slowly growing bitter, not just for himself, but his Scarred Other Self is ''still'' working behind the scenes, unappreciated and completely forgotten (since none of the band seem to have even noticed that the scar is gone). Eventually, he'll grow dissatisfied with his situation, and go back in time to orchestrate the Metalocalypse so that he can take their power, whether because he can't let Dethklok have it (because they'll destroy the world) or because he wants it for himself (as a payoff for everything he's done so far). He will need to use Time Travel Face Bag technology and go back in time at the speed of regular time, which is why Salacia is as old as he is.

This is further supported by Vater Orlaag's words [[spoiler:that [[spoiler: that no one but those inside the secret chamber (Orlaag, Salacia, and Crozier) knows about Salacia when wondering whether Ofdensen Offdensen knows or not; if Ofdensen Offdensen ''is'' Salacia, it's still true.]]


[[WMG: Salacia brought Ofdensen Offdensen back to life.]]

Ofdensen Offdensen died at the end of Season 2 and Salacia brought him back to life and is controlling his body. Ofdensen Offdensen is now Salacia's mole inside Dethklok and his plans with Project Falconback are really Salacia's.

There will eventually be a battle of wills between the real spirit of Ofdensen Offdensen and Salacia over control of Ofdensen's Offdensen's body.
* [[spoiler: Jossed]]

Jossed]].

[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen seeks to oppose Salacia to prevent the Metalocalypse]]



In a nutshell, whatever Pickles's role in the Metalocalypse is, it's more effective drunk. The problem was that since he first began to drink as a coping mechanism, he was unable to tap into that ability. So that's why he was sent to rehab: get clean, get over his issues, then put him in a situation that ''needs'' a DrunkenMaster so he can unlock that potential. Now whether all this is the machinations of Salacia, Ofdensen, or some higher power, I don't know.
* I take it back. I think Ofdensen planned it. I rewatched Rehabklok, and something just doesn't ring true in Ofdensen's voice when he tells Pickles that the robot kidnapped the band, almost like he's hamming it up to show concern. The only time that sounded like he was sincere was when he asked if Pickles had been drinking, which, if he was behind this, would be all he's concerned about. Well, it's either that or Ofdensen's voice just doesn't lend itself to yelling, but whatever.

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In a nutshell, whatever Pickles's role in the Metalocalypse is, it's more effective drunk. The problem was that since he first began to drink as a coping mechanism, he was unable to tap into that ability. So that's why he was sent to rehab: get clean, get over his issues, then put him in a situation that ''needs'' a DrunkenMaster so he can unlock that potential. Now whether all this is the machinations of Salacia, Ofdensen, Offdensen, or some higher power, I don't know.
* I take it back. I think Ofdensen Offdensen planned it. I rewatched Rehabklok, and something just doesn't ring true in Ofdensen's Offdensen's voice when he tells Pickles that the robot kidnapped the band, almost like he's hamming it up to show concern. The only time that sounded like he was sincere was when he asked if Pickles had been drinking, which, if he was behind this, would be all he's concerned about. Well, it's either that or Ofdensen's Offdensen's voice just doesn't lend itself to yelling, but whatever.



** Toki IS a talented guitarist, but he's shy and insecure, and easily thrown off by criticism and scrutiny-- i.e., he spooks like a bunny. He's also very popular with kids, and surprisingly dangerous (when he beats the ever loving piss out of the Manhattan Sidewinder fan-douche, it could easily be described as "Going ''Watership Down'' on his ass".)

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** Toki IS a talented guitarist, but he's shy and insecure, and easily thrown off by criticism and scrutiny-- scrutiny -- i.e., he spooks like a bunny. He's also very popular with kids, and surprisingly dangerous (when he beats the ever loving piss out of the Manhattan Sidewinder fan-douche, it could easily be described as "Going ''Watership Down'' ''Literature/WatershipDown'' on his ass".)



* ''"Matthew 24:7 "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes."'' It's near impossible to have a Dethklok concert without severe destruction to everthing and everyone nearby.
* ''"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world for a witness to all the nations, and then the end shall come."'' Everyone in the universe of Metalocalypse, '''everyone--''' has heard their music. 99% of the world are fans. Worshippers.

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* ''"Matthew 24:7 "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes."'' It's near impossible to have a Dethklok concert without severe destruction to everthing everything and everyone nearby.
* ''"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world for a witness to all the nations, and then the end shall come."'' Everyone in the universe of Metalocalypse, '''everyone--''' has heard their music. 99% of the world are fans. Worshippers.Worshipers.



[[WMG: Dr. Rockso is Josh Todd's (the singer from Buckcherry) alter-ego]]

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[[WMG: Dr. Rockso is Josh Todd's (the singer from Buckcherry) Music/{{Buckcherry}}) alter-ego]]



[[WMG: Vater Orlagg is a resurrected RasputinTheMadMonk.]]

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[[WMG: Vater Orlagg Orlaag is a resurrected RasputinTheMadMonk.]]



He did not show up at all in Season 3, and why, if they showed that Edgar Jomfru is alive and working for Dethklok, would they not show him imprisoned anywhere? Either he had been murdered instantly when Nathan whacked him with the flaming board, or he had been imprisoned, then later murdered by Dethklok when told that Ofdensen was dead.

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He did not show up at all in Season 3, and why, if they showed that Edgar Jomfru is alive and working for Dethklok, would they not show him imprisoned anywhere? Either he had been murdered instantly when Nathan whacked him with the flaming board, or he had been imprisoned, then later murdered by Dethklok when told that Ofdensen Offdensen was dead.



[[WMG: Charles Foster Ofdensen is based on [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Max Weinstein]].]]

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[[WMG: Charles Foster Ofdensen Offdensen is based on [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Max Weinstein]].]]



But only Salacia and Vater Orlagg know it. Salacia gathered together the international power brokers that he deemed to be most likely to conspire to oppose Dethklok, pre-empting the inevitable conspiracy and keeping a tight rein on the would-be conspirators.

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But only Salacia and Vater Orlagg Orlaag know it. Salacia gathered together the international power brokers that he deemed to be most likely to conspire to oppose Dethklok, pre-empting the inevitable conspiracy and keeping a tight rein on the would-be conspirators.



If you look at a lot of early mythologies the early gods had very little love for their followers, often mistreating them and threatening them though they still got a lot of devotion and worship out of it. Also, looking at many of the stories about Thor or the greek pantheon the Gods were also pretty hard partiers and frequently slept around whenever and wherever they got the chance. Ofsdensen may be something similar to a high priest of the pantheon that the guys represent, which also explains his loyalty to them and their eventual loyalty to him. The klockateers/gears serve as a kind of lesser einherjar, while they can still die I have a hunch that the combination of the gear branding and the music played somehow infuses them with something greater than what they normally had. This is also how they're able to invoke monsters and the like as well as get the attention of the world in almost any case. The tribunal may be set up by Salaica trying to establish either a rival pantheon or attempting to step in at the right time.

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If you look at a lot of early mythologies the early gods had very little love for their followers, often mistreating them and threatening them though they still got a lot of devotion and worship out of it. Also, looking at many of the stories about Thor or the greek Greek pantheon the Gods were also pretty hard partiers and frequently slept around whenever and wherever they got the chance. Ofsdensen Offdensen may be something similar to a high priest of the pantheon that the guys represent, which also explains his loyalty to them and their eventual loyalty to him. The klockateers/gears klokateers/gears serve as a kind of lesser einherjar, while they can still die I have a hunch that the combination of the gear branding and the music played somehow infuses them with something greater than what they normally had. This is also how they're able to invoke monsters and the like as well as get the attention of the world in almost any case. The tribunal may be set up by Salaica Salacia trying to establish either a rival pantheon or attempting to step in at the right time.



* Nathan doesn’t seem to be at all interested in the sex aspect of his “Sex, Drugs and Rock n’roll” lifestyle. He only got a girlfriend because he wanted a friend who happens to be a girl. Rebecca got all pissy when she found out he didn’t care about sex, and Frankly, any of the other band members would leap at the chance to impregnate lots of women to produce a race of warriors.
** Except he never did find out anything about Lavona Succuboso's plan except the Loin Extractor which would have removed his sperm '''without''' sex, the reason he was glad Rebecca was in a coma was so that he could go to the Pornography Awards, and the entire episode "Klokblocked" is about the other bandmates foiling his attempts to have sex. And given the "supermodels" scene in Tributeklok he has the most implied sexual activity of anyone in the band except Skwisgar...

[[WMG: Ofdensen is the InUniverse voice of Facebones]]
* Listen to Ofdensen calling out the raffle winner at the employee rally in Season 1 to compare. At some point he may have noticed the band never listens to him and created the Facebones persona so he could get a message across once in awhile.

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* Nathan doesn’t seem to be at all interested in the sex aspect of his “Sex, "Sex, Drugs and Rock n’roll” n'roll" lifestyle. He only got a girlfriend because he wanted a friend who happens to be a girl. Rebecca got all pissy when she found out he didn’t didn't care about sex, and Frankly, any of the other band members would leap at the chance to impregnate lots of women to produce a race of warriors.
** Except he never did find out anything about Lavona Succuboso's plan except the Loin Extractor which would have removed his sperm '''without''' sex, the reason he was glad Rebecca was in a coma was so that he could go to the Pornography Awards, and the entire episode "Klokblocked" is about the other bandmates foiling his attempts to have sex. And given the "supermodels" scene in Tributeklok he has the most implied sexual activity of anyone in the band except Skwisgar...

Skwisgaar...

[[WMG: Ofdensen Offdensen is the InUniverse voice of Facebones]]
* Listen to Ofdensen Offdensen calling out the raffle winner at the employee rally in Season 1 to compare. At some point he may have noticed the band never listens to him and created the Facebones persona so he could get a message across once in awhile.



The boys' supernatural abilities warp reality, but when they're not doing anything in particular, those powers lapse into a passive influence over the effects of time on the individuals around them according to how much attention they pay to it. Offdensen has remained the same age since the band's founding because he's always within Dethklok's sphere of influence, but they never play very close attention to him. Their perception of him hasn't changed since they first met, so he hasn't actually gotten any older. Salacia is Magnus Hammerstorm (the unknown fifth member of the band who Toki probably replaced) after he ''left'' Dethklok's sphere of influence, causing time to affect him strangely since Dethklok has either forgotten him completely, or they remember him (privately) enough that he's been continuously affected in short bursts. The reason no one's caught on is because everyone else who might be affected by it has died or been killed before it made any real difference.

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The boys' supernatural abilities warp reality, but when they're not doing anything in particular, those powers lapse into a passive influence over the effects of time on the individuals around them according to how much attention they pay to it. Offdensen has remained the same age since the band's founding because he's always within Dethklok's sphere of influence, but they never play very close attention to him. Their perception of him hasn't changed since they first met, so he hasn't actually gotten any older. Salacia is Magnus Hammerstorm Hammersmith (the unknown fifth member of the band who Toki probably replaced) after he ''left'' Dethklok's sphere of influence, causing time to affect him strangely since Dethklok has either forgotten him completely, or they remember him (privately) enough that he's been continuously affected in short bursts. The reason no one's caught on is because everyone else who might be affected by it has died or been killed before it made any real difference.



[[WMG: KorgothofBarbaria is the sequel to Metalocalypse.]]

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[[WMG: KorgothofBarbaria WesternAnimation/KorgothOfBarbaria is the sequel to Metalocalypse.]]



This guy is always there. He can't be Salacia's right hand man, beause that's Vader Orlaag's place. But, there's the matter of the scar on the back of his head. Senator Stampingston isn't touched upon at all during the first three seasons, but I'm not sure about the fourth. Could he have more of a place in the Metalocalypse than we think?
* I think it's possible that Stampingston is another victim of Salacia's mind control - he's never seen to oppose Salacia, he rarely even gives any input aside from dispensing information and calling in professors, and yet he's allowed in Salacia's private chamber (check S3 finale - he's in there with Crozier, Orlaag, and Salacia.) I can't help but think Salacia's responsible for his scar, too.

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This guy is always there. He can't be Salacia's right hand man, beause because that's Vader Orlaag's place. But, there's the matter of the scar on the back of his head. Senator Stampingston isn't touched upon at all during the first three seasons, but I'm not sure about the fourth. Could he have more of a place in the Metalocalypse than we think?
* I think it's possible that Stampingston is another victim of Salacia's mind control - he's never seen to oppose Salacia, he rarely even gives any input aside from dispensing information and calling in professors, and yet he's allowed in Salacia's private chamber (check S3 finale - he's in there with Crozier, Orlaag, and Salacia.) I can't help but think Salacia's responsible for his scar, too.
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[[WMG: Something bad happens to Ofdensen in the coming episode.]]

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[[WMG: Something bad happens to Ofdensen Offdensen in the coming episode.]]



[[spoiler: Without their manager to protect them and with all of them angry at each other, Dethklok will be at their absolute worst, and THIS is the ideal time to spring into action with his plans. Because Salacia had suspicions Charles wasn't really dead at the end of Black Fire Upon Us (though everyone else in the Tribunal, save Orlaag his right-hand-man, was sure he was), this is why he didn't go after them when they had blown all their money, which, seemingly, would have been ideal. But now, certain that Offdensen is out of the picture (likely because not only will he be fired, he will be so infuriated with the boys he will just leave them to their own devices), they will be the perfect unprotected target.]] [[spoiler: Unless, of course, whatever's going on with Jomfru becomes a Chekov'sGun at the last second...]]

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[[spoiler: Without their manager to protect them and with all of them angry at each other, Dethklok will be at their absolute worst, and THIS is the ideal time to spring into action with his plans. Because Salacia had suspicions Charles wasn't really dead at the end of Black Fire Upon Us (though everyone else in the Tribunal, save Orlaag his right-hand-man, was sure he was), this is why he didn't go after them when they had blown all their money, which, seemingly, would have been ideal. But now, certain that Offdensen is out of the picture (likely because not only will he be fired, he will be so infuriated with the boys he will just leave them to their own devices), they will be the perfect unprotected target.]] [[spoiler: Unless, of course, whatever's going on with Jomfru becomes a Chekov'sGun Chekhov's Gun at the last second...]]



Magnus tried to keep [[spoiler:Toki]] calm before [[spoiler:he stabbed him]], assuring him that "it's okay" and that "it'll all be over soon." The prophecy likely just dictated this had to happen, and Magnus didn't have any choice in the matter.

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Magnus tried to keep [[spoiler:Toki]] [[spoiler: Toki]] calm before [[spoiler:he [[spoiler: he stabbed him]], assuring him that "it's okay" and that "it'll all be over soon." The prophecy likely just dictated this had to happen, and Magnus didn't have any choice in the matter.



[[WMG: [[spoiler:Magnus didn't really stab Toki at all.]]]]
[[spoiler: We never saw the knife go through Toki, we just see him struggling, Magnus yells, there's a sound effect and Toki screams. It was very foggy; if Magnus moved in the right way to make it seem like he stabbed him, and Toki screamed at the right moment, both the Revengecers and Dethklok would believe it happened, and Toki could become 'invisible' like Charles stated he had done. (Abigail, on the other hand, may be a different story, as we ''did'' see the knife go through her.)]]
* Jossed in ''The Doomstar Requiem'', where [[spoiler:Magnus is seen sewing up Toki's wounds.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Salacia and the Revengencers have a bargain.]]]]
[[spoiler:Salacia needs Dethklok's five members alive to complete the prophecy. The Metal Masked Assassin wants to kill Dethklok and Offdensen. We've seen plenty of Salacia's hypnotic powers before, so he may have been attacking the concert in Breakupklok to MindRape the band all at once and prevent the split. With that attack failing, Salacia and the Metal Masked Assassin struck a deal: the Revengencers capture important people involved in Dethklok and hand them over to the Tribunal for mind-wiping, and once the prophecy is complete, the Metal Masked Assassin can kill them. Toki and Abigail are alive, but they will be brought before Salacia and hypnotized like General Crozier before being sent back to sabotage Dethklok and make the prophecy happen.]]
* [[spoiler:Mostly Jossed in ''The Doomstar Requiem'', but one part of it was right. The actions of the Revengencers were against the Tribunal's will, but as it turned out they already had a plan to put a possessed mole inside Dethklok.]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler:Magnus [[spoiler: Magnus didn't really stab Toki at all.]]]]
[[spoiler: We never saw the knife go through Toki, we just see him struggling, Magnus yells, there's a sound effect and Toki screams. It was very foggy; if Magnus moved in the right way to make it seem like he stabbed him, and Toki screamed at the right moment, both the Revengecers Revengencers and Dethklok would believe it happened, and Toki could become 'invisible' like Charles stated he had done. (Abigail, on the other hand, may be a different story, as we ''did'' see the knife go through her.)]]
* Jossed in ''The Doomstar Requiem'', where [[spoiler:Magnus [[spoiler: Magnus is seen sewing up Toki's wounds.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Salacia [[spoiler: Salacia and the Revengencers have a bargain.]]]]
[[spoiler:Salacia [[spoiler: Salacia needs Dethklok's five members alive to complete the prophecy. The Metal Masked Assassin wants to kill Dethklok and Offdensen. We've seen plenty of Salacia's hypnotic powers before, so he may have been attacking the concert in Breakupklok to MindRape the band all at once and prevent the split. With that attack failing, Salacia and the Metal Masked Assassin struck a deal: the Revengencers capture important people involved in Dethklok and hand them over to the Tribunal for mind-wiping, and once the prophecy is complete, the Metal Masked Assassin can kill them. Toki and Abigail are alive, but they will be brought before Salacia and hypnotized like General Crozier before being sent back to sabotage Dethklok and make the prophecy happen.]]
* [[spoiler:Mostly [[spoiler: Mostly Jossed in ''The Doomstar Requiem'', but one part of it was right. The actions of the Revengencers were against the Tribunal's will, but as it turned out they already had a plan to put a possessed mole inside Dethklok.]]



As shown in Fatherklok, Skwisgaar found his guitar in a hidden temple, held by a statue of a warrior. I theorize that all of Dethklok found their instruments in a similar way. In Nathan's case it would be a book on song writing [[spoiler:penned by the Sea Prophet]], or a microphone.

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As shown in Fatherklok, Skwisgaar found his guitar in a hidden temple, held by a statue of a warrior. I theorize that all of Dethklok found their instruments in a similar way. In Nathan's case it would be a book on song writing [[spoiler:penned [[spoiler: penned by the Sea Prophet]], or a microphone.



[[WMG: About Toki..]]

Nordic, childlike and very curious, has a temper that is extremely frightening and destructive, does even more inadvertent harm to innocents than is normal for the band. So..hey..ever notice what happens when you turn the "T" in Toki upside down?

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[[WMG: About Toki..Toki...]]

Nordic, childlike and very curious, has a temper that is extremely frightening and destructive, does even more inadvertent harm to innocents than is normal for the band. So..hey..So...hey...ever notice what happens when you turn the "T" in Toki upside down?



[[http://community.metalnewsonline.com/profiles/blogs/metalocalypse-one-more-season-a-movie-and-then-done This 2011 article]] had Brendon Small state that he would want to do one more season and a movie to finish the series. Season 4 was the next season. DSR is a movie. Do the math.
* When asked if there was going to be a fifth season on his Reddit AMA, [[http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1p2x6f/iama_a_comedy_guy_guitar_guy_who_makes/ccy6luv Brendan refused to answer...]]

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[[http://community.metalnewsonline.com/profiles/blogs/metalocalypse-one-more-season-a-movie-and-then-done This An 2011 article]] article had Brendon Small state that he would want to do one more season and a movie to finish the series. Season 4 was the next season. DSR is a movie. Do the math.
* When asked if there was going to be a fifth season on his Reddit AMA, [[http://www.[[https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1p2x6f/iama_a_comedy_guy_guitar_guy_who_makes/ccy6luv Brendan refused to answer...]]



It's how he's able to consume so many narcotics. His appearance in 'Snakes N' Barrels II' was a disguise—the way we normally see him is the closest he can get to revealing his true form without making the humans around him go insane.

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It's how he's able to consume so many narcotics. His appearance in 'Snakes N' Barrels II' was a disguise—the disguise - the way we normally see him is the closest he can get to revealing his true form without making the humans around him go insane.



The Church knew about the kidnapping plans long before the funeral but did nothing to stop it, hoping that eventually Dethklok would rescue Toki and Abigail. This is why at the beginning of ''The Doomstar Requiem'' they kept singing that one of them must die, [[spoiler: that person revealed to be Ishnufus.]] As a result of the events of the Doomstar Requiem [[spoiler: and Dethklok's change of heart and awakening as gods,]] the final song to complete the goddess' message and begin the war against Falconback and Salacia and thus prevent the Metalocalypse was written: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMVoDdVxtpE Blazing Star.]]

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The Church knew about the kidnapping plans long before the funeral but did nothing to stop it, hoping that eventually Dethklok would rescue Toki and Abigail. This is why at the beginning of ''The Doomstar Requiem'' they kept singing that one of them must die, [[spoiler: that person revealed to be Ishnufus.]] As a result of the events of the Doomstar Requiem [[spoiler: and Dethklok's change of heart and awakening as gods,]] the final song to complete the goddess' message and begin the war against Falconback and Salacia and thus prevent the Metalocalypse was written: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMVoDdVxtpE Blazing Star.]]
Star.



Selatcia tells the Tribunal about a traitor within Dethklok well before the band sets foot inside The Depths of Humanity. Therefore it would stand to reason that the mentioned traitor is someone else - likely not a band member. However, what happened to Murderface will probably cause him to further alienate himself from the rest of the band, one way or another. Nathan's claim that he (and by extension, the rest of Dethklok) would risk his life for Murdeface's sake may be put to test by the end of the 5th season.

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Selatcia Salacia tells the Tribunal about a traitor within Dethklok well before the band sets foot inside The Depths of Humanity. Therefore it would stand to reason that the mentioned traitor is someone else - likely not a band member. However, what happened to Murderface will probably cause him to further alienate himself from the rest of the band, one way or another. Nathan's claim that he (and by extension, the rest of Dethklok) would risk his life for Murdeface's Murderface's sake may be put to test by the end of the 5th season.



Let's face it, the two of them remind me of some of the more cultlike sects of religions. And in quite a few of them, women are meant to be subservient and do whatever the husband tells them. It's also quite possible that Anja had been forced into the marriage with Aslagg to 'cleanse' herself of some arbitrary sin. The easy target would be conceiving Toki out of wedlock (which would go with the 'son of a god' WMG or make the 'Toki isn't their son' theory half correct), but I think the better answer is she's a lesbian. (She got just as handsy as the rest of the Dethmoms.) And most cultlike sects view homosexuality as a sin.

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Let's face it, the two of them remind me of some of the more cultlike sects of religions. And in quite a few of them, women are meant to be subservient and do whatever the husband tells them. It's also quite possible that Anja had been forced into the marriage with Aslagg Aslaag to 'cleanse' herself of some arbitrary sin. The easy target would be conceiving Toki out of wedlock (which would go with the 'son of a god' WMG or make the 'Toki isn't their son' theory half correct), but I think the better answer is she's a lesbian. (She got just as handsy as the rest of the Dethmoms.) And most cultlike sects view homosexuality as a sin.



[[WMG: The Metal Masked Assassin is in Hell, fighting and torturing demons.]]

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[[WMG: The Metal Masked Assassin is in Hell, fighting and torturing demons.]]]]
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Nordic, childlike and very curious, has a temper that is extremely frightening and destructive, does even more inadvertent harm to innocents than is normal for the band. So..hey..[[SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}} ever notice what happens when you turn the "T" in Toki upside down?]]

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Nordic, childlike and very curious, has a temper that is extremely frightening and destructive, does even more inadvertent harm to innocents than is normal for the band. So..hey..[[SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}} ever notice what happens when you turn the "T" in Toki upside down?]]down?
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* ...which, in the future, led to [[RedVsBlue Tucker saying the line "Man, poor Florida".]]

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* ...which, in the future, led to [[RedVsBlue [[Machinima/RedVsBlue Tucker saying the line "Man, poor Florida".]]
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Well, let's look. Both are drug addicts, and are willing to sell out and betray supposed friends for their next fix. Both of them are naturally blond. (The discrepancy in skin tone's harder to explain but no WMG is perfect.) Both have ''definitely'' been around things that aren't normal (Red XIII vs. Dethklok, Xemnas vs. Salacia.) And whoring himself out on a reality show that embraces, nay encourages drug use isn't out of character for Rockso. Presumably, though, if they are the same person, different gender, then Larxene is also a future version of Rockso, due to going from cocaine to...everything, and from the world already gone to hell. In other words, AnsemRetort takes place in a post-{{Metalocalypse}} alternate universe.

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Well, let's look. Both are drug addicts, and are willing to sell out and betray supposed friends for their next fix. Both of them are naturally blond. (The discrepancy in skin tone's harder to explain but no WMG is perfect.) Both have ''definitely'' been around things that aren't normal (Red XIII vs. Dethklok, Xemnas vs. Salacia.) And whoring himself out on a reality show that embraces, nay encourages drug use isn't out of character for Rockso. Presumably, though, if they are the same person, different gender, then Larxene is also a future version of Rockso, due to going from cocaine to...everything, and from the world already gone to hell. In other words, AnsemRetort takes place in a post-{{Metalocalypse}} post-''WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}}'' alternate universe.
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[[WMG: Metalocalypse and MegasXLR take place in the same universe.]]
The common element? Goat. One of Coop's friends, and based on the first episode, a big Dethklok fan. Since he lost his eye at a concert, it's safe to presume MegasXLR came first timeline-wise.

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[[WMG: Metalocalypse and MegasXLR WesternAnimation/MegasXLR take place in the same universe.]]
The common element? Goat. One of Coop's friends, and based on the first episode, a big Dethklok fan. Since he lost his eye at a concert, it's safe to presume MegasXLR WesternAnimation/MegasXLR came first timeline-wise.
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[[WMG: Film/HowToTrainYourDragon and TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} are both set in the future of the Metalocalypse universe, and are the products of Dethklok's subconscious reality warping powers.]]

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[[WMG: Film/HowToTrainYourDragon WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon and TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} are both set in the future of the Metalocalypse universe, and are the products of Dethklok's subconscious reality warping powers.]]
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...He was the Norse god Tyr in human form.

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...He was the Norse god Tyr in human form.form.

[[WMG: The Metal Masked Assassin is in Hell, fighting and torturing demons.]]
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[[WMG: Charles Foster Ofdensen is based on [[FamilyGuy Max Weinstein]].]]

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[[WMG: Charles Foster Ofdensen is based on [[FamilyGuy [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Max Weinstein]].]]
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Let's face it, the two of them remind me of some of the more cultlike sects of religions. And in quite a few of them, women are meant to be subservient and do whatever the husband tells them. It's also quite possible that Anja had been forced into the marriage with Aslagg to 'cleanse' herself of some arbitrary sin. The easy target would be conceiving Toki out of wedlock (which would go with the 'son of a god' WMG or make the 'Toki isn't their son' theory half correct), but I think the better answer is she's a lesbian. (She got just as handsy as the rest of the Dethmoms.) And most cultlike sects view homosexuality as a sin.

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Let's face it, the two of them remind me of some of the more cultlike sects of religions. And in quite a few of them, women are meant to be subservient and do whatever the husband tells them. It's also quite possible that Anja had been forced into the marriage with Aslagg to 'cleanse' herself of some arbitrary sin. The easy target would be conceiving Toki out of wedlock (which would go with the 'son of a god' WMG or make the 'Toki isn't their son' theory half correct), but I think the better answer is she's a lesbian. (She got just as handsy as the rest of the Dethmoms.) And most cultlike sects view homosexuality as a sin.sin.

[[WMG: Rikki Kixx is/was Pickles' illegitimate son.]]

He was born at some point in the eighties, when Snakes N' Barrels were still together with Pickles. He knew from an early age who his father was, and repeatedly tried to get in touch with him, but Pickles either wasn't interested or thought Kixx was just some weird, overly-obsessed fan. The bitterness led to substance abuse problems, which in turn forced him into sobriety. Reuniting Snakes N' Barrels with himself as the lead singer was a way of getting back at Pickles.

[[WMG: Tyr was Skwisgaar's real father...]]

...He was the Norse god Tyr in human form.
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[[WMG: Ofdensen is actually [[AxisPowersHetalia Austria]].]]

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[[WMG: Ofdensen is actually [[AxisPowersHetalia [[Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia Austria]].]]
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Nordic, childlike and very curious, has a temper that is extremely frightening and destructive, does even more inadvertent harm to innocents than is normal for the band. So..hey..[[{{Loki}} ever notice what happens when you turn the "T" in Toki upside down?]]

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Nordic, childlike and very curious, has a temper that is extremely frightening and destructive, does even more inadvertent harm to innocents than is normal for the band. So..hey..[[{{Loki}} [[SelfDemonstrating/{{Loki}} ever notice what happens when you turn the "T" in Toki upside down?]]
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* Considering the fact that in one episode in Season 3 or 4, Toki asks if he can play the solos for once, and Skwisgaar declines Toki's request, because he "never practices", and the fact that Toki can easily keep up with Skwisgaar, it would seem that Toki is actually a much better guitarist. The only reason he's not the lead guitarist is because he's too nice to usurp Skwisgaar's role, which is exactly what would happen if Toki actually practiced for just a few minutes every day.
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Magnus's did. It was heavily implied that the death would be a member of Dethklok, and although Ishnifus was their associate and mentor he was not a member of the band nor even formally employed by them. Magnus, on the other hand, is ThePeteBest to Dethklok and thus technically a member, and in killing himself over allowing Ishnifus to die, [[SelfFulfillingProphecy unintentionally fulfilled the prophecy]]. This is also why we see the Doomstar behind him during his suicide.

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Magnus's did. It was heavily implied that the death would be a member of Dethklok, and although Ishnifus was their associate and mentor he was not a member of the band nor even formally employed by them. Magnus, on the other hand, is ThePeteBest to Dethklok and thus technically a member, and in killing himself over allowing Ishnifus to die, [[SelfFulfillingProphecy unintentionally fulfilled the prophecy]]. This is also why we see the Doomstar behind him during his suicide.suicide.

[[WMG: Anja's as much a victim of abuse as Toki.]]

Let's face it, the two of them remind me of some of the more cultlike sects of religions. And in quite a few of them, women are meant to be subservient and do whatever the husband tells them. It's also quite possible that Anja had been forced into the marriage with Aslagg to 'cleanse' herself of some arbitrary sin. The easy target would be conceiving Toki out of wedlock (which would go with the 'son of a god' WMG or make the 'Toki isn't their son' theory half correct), but I think the better answer is she's a lesbian. (She got just as handsy as the rest of the Dethmoms.) And most cultlike sects view homosexuality as a sin.
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Using magic to make himself look younger, of course. Their facial features are strikingly similar, and they even have a similar accent.

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Using magic to make himself look younger, of course. Their facial features are strikingly similar, and they even have a similar accent.accent.

[[WMG: Ishnifus's death didn't fulfill the prophecy]]

Magnus's did. It was heavily implied that the death would be a member of Dethklok, and although Ishnifus was their associate and mentor he was not a member of the band nor even formally employed by them. Magnus, on the other hand, is ThePeteBest to Dethklok and thus technically a member, and in killing himself over allowing Ishnifus to die, [[SelfFulfillingProphecy unintentionally fulfilled the prophecy]]. This is also why we see the Doomstar behind him during his suicide.
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Selatcia tells the Tribunal about a traitor within Dethklok well before the band sets foot inside The Depths of Humanity. Therefore it would stand to reason that the mentioned traitor is someone else - likely not a band member. However, what happened to Murderface will probably cause him to further alienate himself from the rest of the band, one way or another. Nathan's claim that he (and by extension, the rest of Dethklok) would risk his life for Murdeface's sake may be put to test by the end of the 5th season.

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Selatcia tells the Tribunal about a traitor within Dethklok well before the band sets foot inside The Depths of Humanity. Therefore it would stand to reason that the mentioned traitor is someone else - likely not a band member. However, what happened to Murderface will probably cause him to further alienate himself from the rest of the band, one way or another. Nathan's claim that he (and by extension, the rest of Dethklok) would risk his life for Murdeface's sake may be put to test by the end of the 5th season.season.

[[WMG: The strange man who accosted Murderface in Depths of Humanity was none other than Mr. Salacia himself.]]

Using magic to make himself look younger, of course. Their facial features are strikingly similar, and they even have a similar accent.
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**** Or, perhaps after giving birth to Skwisgaar, Serveta took preventative measures (birth control, tube tying, etc) to not have more kids (and knowing her, it was probably for superficial reasons like not wanting to ruin her figure). It's probably for the best that she didn't have any more kids besides Skwisgaar too.



[[WMG: Ofdensen is a god charged with watching over Dethklok and also is Swisgarr's father]]
All of the boys are children of gods, and Ofdensen fathered Swisgarr, hence his fatherly moment with him. He's been assigned by the gods to watch over and protect them until the Metalocalypse. He maybe be Loki and being punished; Loki fathered, among other creatures, a wolf (the animals that watched over Swisgarr and led to him finding his guitar). Loki is also foretold to fight the gods during Ragnarok and mutually slay and be slain by "the White God", which might also be a reference to [[spoiler: his fight with the Masked Assassin.]]

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[[WMG: Ofdensen is a god charged with watching over Dethklok and also is Swisgarr's Skwisgarr's father]]
All of the boys are children of gods, and Ofdensen fathered Swisgarr, Skwisgarr, hence his fatherly moment with him. He's been assigned by the gods to watch over and protect them until the Metalocalypse. He maybe be Loki and being punished; Loki fathered, among other creatures, a wolf (the animals that watched over Swisgarr Skwisgarr and led to him finding his guitar). Loki is also foretold to fight the gods during Ragnarok and mutually slay and be slain by "the White God", which might also be a reference to [[spoiler: his fight with the Masked Assassin.]]



A ruler of gods, similar to Zues and Odin. In the same vein, Selatcia has fathered many gods and mortals.

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A ruler of gods, similar to Zues Zeus and Odin. In the same vein, Selatcia has fathered many gods and mortals.
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The Church knew about the kidnapping plans long before the funeral but did nothing to stop it, hoping that eventually Dethklok would rescue Toki and Abigail. This is why at the beginning of ''The Doomstar Requiem'' they kept singing that one of them must die, [[spoiler: that person revealed to be Ishnufus.]] As a result of the events of the Doomstar Requiem [[spoiler: and Dethklok's change of heart and awakening as gods,]] the final song to complete the goddess' message and begin the war against Falconback and Salacia and thus prevent the Metalocalypse was written: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMVoDdVxtpE Blazing Star.]]

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The Church knew about the kidnapping plans long before the funeral but did nothing to stop it, hoping that eventually Dethklok would rescue Toki and Abigail. This is why at the beginning of ''The Doomstar Requiem'' they kept singing that one of them must die, [[spoiler: that person revealed to be Ishnufus.]] As a result of the events of the Doomstar Requiem [[spoiler: and Dethklok's change of heart and awakening as gods,]] the final song to complete the goddess' message and begin the war against Falconback and Salacia and thus prevent the Metalocalypse was written: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMVoDdVxtpE Blazing Star.]]]]

[[WMG: Murderface is not the traitor, and his implied infection/possession will not be touched upon before the 5th season finale]]

Selatcia tells the Tribunal about a traitor within Dethklok well before the band sets foot inside The Depths of Humanity. Therefore it would stand to reason that the mentioned traitor is someone else - likely not a band member. However, what happened to Murderface will probably cause him to further alienate himself from the rest of the band, one way or another. Nathan's claim that he (and by extension, the rest of Dethklok) would risk his life for Murdeface's sake may be put to test by the end of the 5th season.

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