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AsYouKnow, the (apparent?) antagonists of ''Force'' are "of Hückebein". If the writers want to keep up the ''VideoGame/AceCombat'' jokes, well, ''Unsung War'' and ''Belkan War'' revealed that [[spoiler: Peter "Pops" Beagle from ''5'' used to be "Hückebein the Raven" from ''0'']]. Maybe he will turn out to have left them because he disagreed with their methods. If they want to throw in ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'' {{Shout Out}}s too, maybe he could be the original founder of Hückebein, but now seeks to bring it down for going astray, and also turn out to be an extremely powerful {{Retired| Badass}} BadassGrandpa who can teach Hayate a thing or two about control and speed.

I'm not entirely sure what inspired this thought, except maybe the idea of DeusExitMachina[=/=]HoldingBackThePhlebotinum, that these characters have been kept out of the (main) picture for so long because they're being saved for an [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome epic]] BigDamnHeroes moment.

UnstoppableRage leading to a HeroicSacrifice and CrowningMomentOfAwesome.

[[WMG: Fate has her own soul, but Alicia's [[KingdomHearts Heart]]]]

[[WMG:Thoma will appear in ViVid]]

The people of El Hazard seem to have a form of SufficientlyAdvancedTechnology, including two weapons of mass destruction (a Death Star expy and an artificial-mage-slash-android wielding what's basically an [[VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberianSeries ion cannon]] in staff form). The drill-tipped buildings in the TOS imagery are reminiscent of the ArabianNights-style architecture.

[[WMG: Eltria ''is'' [[WildArms Filgaia]].]]
"Eltria" is the name in their version of Latin; "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philia Fil]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaea gaia]]" is the closest "Earth" translation; it roughly means "Love of the Planet." (Most planets tend to call themselves "The World", "Land", or "Home" in their own language.) Being in the Nanoha-verse meant that the planet was eventually discovered by the TSAB and Administrated because of the [[LostTechnology ARMs.]] Ironically this lead to the most critical depopulation event than any of the previous WildArms games because most of the natives are now able to [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere leave the planet.]]
* The reason the Materials are able to create water purifiers and land restorers in the ending is because they can easily read the GeneticMemory [[{{VideoGame/WildArmsXF}} "Legacy Ruins" written in the DNA of the people.]] (And even Levi is programmed to be proficient with technical knowledge, as her conversation with Fate in the game shows.)

[[WMG: ''MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha the Movie First'' is a propaganda vehicle by the TSAB.]]

[[WMG: The TSAB is [[YanksWithTanks the US Coast Guard]] [[InSpace INSPACE]].]]

As his entry under [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness/AnimeAndManga Early Installment Weirdness]] says, several powers and abilities that define his role in the series have been retroactively rendered utterly infeasible after the series' magic rules had been formalized. Specifically, he is the only human character who can, for no apparent reason, shapeshift into a non-humanoid creature, and his signature Temporal Force Field is so insanely overpowered that it simply makes no sense under the magical standards introduces in the later seasons. So, rather than address these inconsistencies and possibly massively depower his character, the writers just chose to leave Yuuno as just another minor mystery and to never shine a spotlight on him ever again.

[[WMG: Yuuno was DemotedToExtra because over time, he has become the biggest lore-breaker introduced in the early seasons]]
As his entry under [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness/AnimeAndManga Early Installment Weirdness]] says, several powers and abilities that define his role in the series have been retroactively rendered utterly infeasible after the series' magic rules had been formalized. Specifically, he is the only human character who can, for no apparent reason, shapeshift into a non-humanoid creature, and his signature Temporal Force Field is so insanely overpowered by later standards that they simply make no sense. So, rather than address these inconsistencies and possibly massively depower his character, the writers just chose to leave Yuuno is just another minor mystery and to never shine a spotlight on him ever again.

Past great empires such as Ancient Belka were apparently destroyed when they advanced their technology too fast and created tons of Weapons of Mass Destruction (the Lost Logia). Unlike the TSAB, they had no regulations, hence the free-for-all development of [[AtomicHate mass-based weaponry]] and [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke transhumanism]]. [[AndManGrewProud You can see]] [[MutuallyAssuredDestruction how that went out]]. According to ''[[AllThereInTheManual Sound Stage X Guide Book]]'', TSAB was founded in the first place to clean up the mess made by the Belkan Empire, which consisted primarily of Lost Logia just lying around to be exploited by conspirators such as Jail Scaglietti and the High Council (kinda like how US and Russia fought for capturing [[StupidJetpackHitler German scientists]] after WorldWarTwo). It was later that additional tasks like disaster relief and crime fighting were added to their agenda. except that the only two precursor civilizations mentioned so far were Al-Hazard and Belka, and only the latter left physical legacy that can be properly attributed.

* Creator/MiyukiSawashiro for Victoria Dahlgrün. Sawashiro already played some {{Ojou}}s. And with the two above, we will get the whole ''BRS'' anime main cast in that season ([[Creator/MamikoNoto Einhart aka Black Gold Saw]], [[EriKitamura Rio aka Chariot]]).

* Creator/MiyukiSawashiro for Victoria Dahlgrün. Sawashiro already played some {{Ojou}}s. And with the two above, we will get the whole ''BRS'' anime main cast in that season ([[MamikoNoto Einhart aka Black Gold Saw]], [[EriKitamura Rio aka Chariot]]).

*** So, as a suggestion: AoiYuuki as Chantez, AiNonaka as Harry, and Creator/EmiriKatou as Els.

* MiyukiSawashiro for Victoria Dahlgrün. Sawashiro already played some {{Ojou}}s. And with the two above, we will get the whole ''BRS'' anime main cast in that season ([[MamikoNoto Einhart aka Black Gold Saw]], [[EriKitamura Rio aka Chariot]]).

AsYouKnow, the (apparent?) antagonists of ''Force'' are "of Hückebein". If the writers want to keep up the ''AceCombat'' jokes, well, ''Unsung War'' and ''Belkan War'' revealed that [[spoiler: Peter "Pops" Beagle from ''5'' used to be "Hückebein the Raven" from ''0'']]. Maybe he will turn out to have left them because he disagreed with their methods. If they want to throw in ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'' {{Shout Out}}s too, maybe he could be the original founder of Hückebein, but now seeks to bring it down for going astray, and also turn out to be an extremely powerful {{Retired| Badass}} BadassGrandpa who can teach Hayate a thing or two about control and speed.

It should be obvious that after the last Sankt Kaiser abdicated (or was killed without an heir), some Belkans (especially rich and powerful) were not happy about it. The history books (''SSX'' booklet) are notoriously vague on the fate of those who called themselves "Belkans" in modern times. It is likely that IF there was a cabal ruling the Belkan empire from the shadows through their puppet Sankt Kaisers, they would likely go into hiding after their defeat. Using their wealth from the Belkan times, they would prepare for a rebellion against TSAB and the Saint Church, just like the Grey Men of the original Belka from ''AceCombat''. Or, if the universes are connected, could they be actual (followers of the) Grey Men?

* I think that it was already cemented by bringing back one of [[LadyOfWar the]] [[PlayingWithFire most]] [[BadAss awesome]] [[LightningBruiser characters]] this franchise have and [[TheWorfEffect beat]] [[WorfHadTheFlu the]] [[CurbStompBattle tar]] [[HeroKiller out of]] [[DefeatingTheUndefeatable her]] and left her [[NearDeathExperience near death]].

[[{{Inception}} You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.]] I was playing ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'' the other day, using the Engineer, and a lines from his "Meet the Team" video came to me: "And if that don't work? Use more gun." That reminded me of this ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' fic, Fanfic/AndIfThatDontWork, where the "more gun" is UsefulNotes/FromRussiaWithNukes. That also made me think of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', where the AntiMagic of Blanks can be {{No Sell}}ed by sufficiently strong daemons or psykers.

He is a year older and OneHeadTaller than Thoma who is voiced by YuukiKaji. Erio is the manliest guy after Zafira among the good guys. It would be weird if he's still voiced by a woman. And Creator/MarinaInoue wouldn't disappear from the franchise, thanks to Cinque and Wendi.

...because she doesn't need it. What will happen instead is that Signum will show up to face Cypha in their last fight with damaged equipment, maybe even without Levantine. When Cypha goes in for the kill, Signum will demonstrate just how vast the gulf in skill between them is by channeling [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAdvance Lamia's]] ''[[EndlessFrontier other]]'' [[BareFistedMonk expy]] complete with an appropriate Phantasm Phoenix-like Overdrive that powers up her fire magic until the heat alone can overwhelm Cypha's Hückebein haxx, thus demonstrating once and for all why Signum is called The Blazing General. This will also be how the '''[[MemeticMutation SIGNUM]] [[ShoutOut PUNCH]]''' becomes an official attack.

In ''[=StrikerS=]'' [[spoiler: Erio]] is a product of Project F, the same one that birthed [[spoiler: Fate]], and Jail makes use of this in a BreakingSpeech. If the pattern is to be followed, something else that was important to the second season but not brought up in the third will be referenced. Maybe Hückebein will unseal the Book, bringing back both Rein and the defence programme? I wonder if we can have ''The Battle of Aces'' plot elements with ''Force''-level Materials [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar -L, -S and -D]]? I eagerly await ''Force''!Material-S's responding to the Strike Cannon with [[CapcomVsWhatever here's my Sunday best!]]

* Err, considering that that it's original purpose (the one that inspired the Belkan scientist) is being an [[BookOfShadows automatic magic archivist]] instead of a tool for {{Instrumentality}} or [[AGodAmI harnessing god-like powers]], then no. That could make a nice separate WMG, though...Giant Naked Rein, anybody?

* Vita = [[Myth/NorseMythology Thor]] (RedHeadedHero+FieryRedhead, wields [[DropTheHammer a hammer]] that changes size, minus the lightning)

* Nanoha, Fate, Subaru, Vita, Vivio, Einhart. Most of the other characters earned their power (either by training or through artificial means) or have talents that lie in support (like Caro). This is most noticeable with "She Who Rainbows Are Straighter Than" (who was genetically modified to kick major amounts of ass), and Vivio (who's the clone of the strongest fighter in history). It's obviously not a direct connection (since Tea is WeakButSkilled), but there's got to be some sort of relation between the two.

******* I don't see a problem: since Devices are very much like [=PCs=], amateur-made ones like Teana and Subaru's are basically comparable to early personal computers of TheNineties running MS-DOS. Intelligent Devices are something like the latest model [=MacBook=] in terms of performance and comfort. And Strike Cannon is like a PS3: a portable supercomputer but only specialized for one task. That's the difference. Therefore, I don't think Nanoha will be using both Strike Cannon and Raising Heart simultaneously like Subaru did with her Devices: either one after the other, or by merging them in the MechaExpansionPack kind of way.

Basically, they're going to reveal it was a simulation for a 'what if' scenario.

As we see in ''Manga/ViVid'', the general technology level is pretty much the same as the general population as Mid-Child. Magic is heavily regulated by the military, special clearance is required just to fly in a civilian zone; so it's not commonly used in public. Earthlings are capable of magic, they just never had to develop it. Why "Unadministrated?" Because the Time-Space Administration Bureau has it's hands full keeping societies that do know about Lost Logia away from the stuff. Introducing a population of 7 billion to TheMultiverse means tourists, immigrants, and a possible small percentage (which would happen with any population) of the curious and/or malevolent getting into stuff they shouldn't. When there's finally a MageInManhattan situation which results in TheUnmasquedWorld, then they'll initiate official First Contact. Until then, they'll just recruit anyone who privately Awakens and absorb them into their society.

[[WMG: ''Manga/ViVid'' is actually being written by Creator/YukariTamura]]

As for the second part, it is blatantly obvious that all women on Mid-Childa use some magical means to maintain their beauty even when the age sets in (think Lindy and Leti). Wolkenritter are hardly a telling example but Signum is officially ''35'' in ''Force'' and still looks like twenty-something. But the most glaring example is probably Momoko Takamachi, Nanoha's mom, who is 47 in ''Manga/ViVid'' but still has the looks she had in the original series. It wouldn't surprise me at all to discover that Nanoha has been casting some de-aging magic on her family ever since she learned how.

Obligatory crackpot conspiracy theory! It would explain why you have such ridiculous things such as Yuuno not being visible even in his own Library in ''Manga/ViVid''.

* Someone leaked the supposedly top-secret information on both a Sankt Kaiser clone and Dark King Ixpellia's presence on Mid-Childa to Einhart Stratos in ''Manga/ViVid''. Who was it?

* ''The dead shall dance, and the tower of law in the central lands shall burn to the ground.'' Here comes the fun part; taken solely in the context of ''[=StrikerS=]'', "the dead shall dance" could be interpreted as Project F mages like Zest and Vivio running around, but outside that context it could also refer much more directly to ''[[NightOfTheLivingMooks the Mariage]]''. Or maybe not; maybe it's just talking about Vivio and Ingvalt going on a date and hitting a night club or something. If it ''was'' referring to the Mariage, on the other hand, then the last part is most likely foreshadowing events in ''[=Force=]'' or ''Manga/ViVid''.

...because unless Quattro has super brainwashing powers in addition to her IS, she couldn't have executed Lutecia's VillainOverride unless Lulu had been tampered with somehow, possibly by turning her into a relic weapon (which would explain quite nicely how a ten-year old who isn't Hayate gets to be an S-rank mage). If Quattro had a chance to tamper with Lutecia for any reason, it would be perfectly in-character for her to play God with Lutecia's personality like she did with Sette, either to make her more pliable as a tool or [[ForTheEvulz just because she could]]. This would also explain why Lutecia experienced such a dramatic personality shift between ''[=StrikerS=]'' and Manga/ViVid; without Quattro's tampering and with the TSAB probably getting her medical attention at some point in her captivity, whatever artificial changes Quattro imposed on her came undone, and her thought processes and personality naturally shifted back to their original state.

GenerationXerox, remember? Though, actually, this is inspired by Megane's flashback in the recent ''Manga/ViVid'' chapter.

** And this is exactly where the franchise fails to balance character potential, Yuuno can't be an effective direct fighter but can aid great support, the fail part is, support mages are really underrated in Nanoha. For example, Shamal who is claimed by some to be better at support than Yuuno gets quickly DemotedToExtra in ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers'', then on the same season comes Caro who use her support spells ONCE (to give Erio extra power to defeat a Gadget Drone Type III) and then only shine when summon her dragons(after Voltaire shows up Caro go full sommoner and less support for the rest of the series). It's only in recent chapters of ''Manga/ViVid'' when support magic came to shine again with Caro and Lutecia (who did a better support role than Caro in ''[=StrikerS=]'') as fullbacks. In FORCE the situation already leaves any non walking-killing-machine character to the sidelines(and apparently it isn't any support mages among the new cast) so it's pretty clear that non-full combatants are never fully apreciated. Still, Yuuno doesn't fight Vita, he only stalls her while focused on destroying the barrier. Also there's nothing wrong with his shields been broken by SLB Plus and Triple Breaker, if had managed to block SLB that intantly would launch him to GameBreaker status(something the franchise trying to avoid at least in the past), the two aformentioned spells are used to defeat [[EldritchAbomination Eldritch Abominations]], [[DarkMagicalGirl dark magical girls]] and cloned superpowerfull [[CrystalDragonJesus Ancient Belkan rulers]] so it's plotwise understandable that Yuuno can't contain such powerful attacks, other than that is an example of a character who is only good on one thing but does really well on that.

By ''Manga/ViVid'' he's able to outclass Fate on both speed and skill(by catching up with her Sonic Form all by himself and nearly taking her down without breaking a sweat). Only God knows how much awesome the guy has become two years after, probably him receiving a Strike Cannon is an excuse to not let himself cut loose on the Hückebein at Mach 5.

[[WMG: The various [[AlternateContinuity Alternate Continuities]] (The main continuity, TriangleHeart3SweetSongsForever continuity, the Movie continuity, the Movie manga continuity, the A's portable game continuity) that the franchise is spouting will be revealed to be actual events in other dimensions, leading to all of them meeting each other sometime in the future]]