This is a list of Wild Mass Guesses which are still possibly true. Just for Fun and silly guesses go on the silly page. If a WMG is Jossed, please move it to the jossed page, if it is Confirmed, please move it to the confirmed page.
Please add new entries to the bottom of the page.
- Signum = Archangel Michael (leader role, Flaming Sword, generally associated with fire, grows wings when in unison with Agito)
- Vita = Thor (Fiery Redhead, wields a hammer that changes size, minus the lightning)
- Shamal = Lady of the Lake
- Zafira = any supernatural wolf in mythology
To continue with The Bible analogies started with Signum, the whole Final Battle of A's contains countless references to the Book of Revelation:
- Reinforce is the Woman of the Apocalypse, who gives birth to Messianic Archetype, i.e. metaphorically giving birth to Mage Knight Hayate after the Ordinary Schoolgirl Hayate is consumed.
- Hayate is the Messianic Archetype who proceeds to resurrect the dead and become the Big Good.
- Nanoha and Fate may be the two witnesses who preached in vain to prevent the apocalypse. (Not sure about that one.)
- Then, we have a Beast from the Sea (the first form of the defense program). When it is destroyed, the second Beast emerges.
- Then everyone gangs up upon the Beast and kicks its ass. A thousand year reign of
ChristHayate Yagami begins.
Ah, you know what? Screw that. Let's just say that Everyone Is Jesus in Purgatory.
- Or, perhaps Earth is actually a regurgitated Belka and its so empty of Lost Logia because only a small percent wasn't removed from the surface before the collapse.
- Likewise, the "Emoha" aspect was played up to counter criticisms of their zealous recruitment policy. Even if a mage is still a Sleeper and not psychotic; having magic potential that isn't honed is mentally painful. Fate's horrific homelife also emphasizes how not being Administrated is a bad thing; and the TSAB is the best possible thing that could happen to young mages.
- Corollary: What Teana and Subaru are watching in StrikerS is actually Nanoha The Movie 1st.
- Jossed. They are part of the DVD Commentary cast, and the visual content of the series and movie is very different.
- Fridge Logic: Who is playing the young Nanoha and Fate, then? Or is the movie an All-CGI Cartoon in-universe?
- The Sound Stages mention costumes and props for the movie, so presumably it's child actors who happen to look and sound a lot like the cast as kids.
- Maybe it is them. We know children can shapeshift their age up; it shouldn't be too hard for adults to shift into children. (Familiars can, after all.)
- The Sound Stages mention costumes and props for the movie, so presumably it's child actors who happen to look and sound a lot like the cast as kids.
- I can agree with this to a point since so far, there hasn't been any real sense of plot in this series. But as for that claim of Homosexual Reproduction, it's doubtful that they'll get to that stage considering the current status quo of Hide Your Lesbians.
- This is an amazingly bitter theory, even if the poster submitted in jest or good-heartedness. It basically says that because Yuuno didn't get his bone like he "deserved"; then nothing Nanoha and Fate accomplished without him could have been done.
- Let's go all the way with this and see where it goes. So Nanoha and Fate are hiding Yuuno like a dirty little secret; being together with him...oh, one hour every two months or so; in a closet in the Infinite Library; and they've either not told Vivio about him at all; or somehow trained her not to talk about him. Using his amazing skills of training and mind control; he has manipulated and dictated their every action without anyone in the TSAB ever talking to him.
- For that matter, shouldn't Lutecia still be in school? She is just one year older than Einhart, so you'd think she'll attend
HogwartsSt. Hilde Academy...- She mentions a study program at the rehabilitation center, does quite a bit of reading on advanced subjects, and learned Ancient Belkan, among possible other skills, from Scaglietti. It's also unclear to what degree schooling is mandatory on Mid-Childia; Fate considers having Erio and Caro go to school, but Erio isn't interested, and Subaru attended some regular school (but not magic school) before entering the academy at 12).
- Curiously enough, Veyron doesn't admit to destroying the village, which could indicate there's more to his story than Thoma thinks, and he may be too obvious of a culprit.
- The next candidate for the "true" Big Bad is Hades Vandein.
It could be that Belka and so on reached a technological singularity, in which their technologies (based on their respected paradigms of being energy based or mass based) began to advance unchecked at a rate unimaginable to humans all on their own, eventually destroying them. The TSAB wants everyone to be stuck at a technological level equivalent to mid 21st century Earth, and the most commonly used technology basically involves using existing machinery and programming them. Enhancement is only allowed in energy-based magic (as opposed to Belkan mass-based one) because it is apparently much more environment-friendly (as indirectly evidenced by the lush landscapes of Mid and the hypothesis that Belka became uninhabitable due to pollution, see Guide Book) and also less deadly in combat.
It's the reason why they are not bothered by Earth, which uses mass based technology but hasn't advanced it so far yet that it could risk a technological singularity, is not actively trying to advance their technology to confront the TSAB, and the United Nations informally bans use of their mass-based nuclear weaponry under threat of Mutually Tssured Destruction. The best policy towards Earth, quite literally, is to leave it alone and let it be ignorant of the greater universe (a policy that only works because the intergalactic government is apparently a hegemony). Generally, TSAB shouldn't be seen as a galactic government or anything of the sorts, but rather as a Jedi order, enforcing a specific set of rules where they can and not meddling with people's life in general.
- This seems likely of the Ground Forces. By Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS though the Air Force apparently Took a Level in Badass; this may be a reflection of a SWAT role or they're actually getting better. The Navy, though, seems prepared to fight a war if necessary.
- Four Nanohas? OH SHI--
- And with the GOD Sound Stages revealing that Alternate Continuities can exist as parallel dimensions that's accessible via a certain kind of Lost Technology found in Eltria, this theory just got a lot more plausible.
As for the second part, it is blatantly obvious that all women on Mid-Childa use some magical means to maintain their beauty even when the age sets in (think Lindy and Leti). Wolkenritter are hardly a telling example but Signum is officially 35 in Force and still looks like twenty-something. But the most glaring example is probably Momoko Takamachi, Nanoha's mom, who is 47 in Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Vi Vid but still has the looks she had in the original series. It wouldn't surprise me at all to discover that Nanoha has been casting some de-aging magic on her family ever since she learned how.
- In the Manga, it's explicitly stated that the Wolkenritter do not age, and Vita will have to use transformation magic to prevent people on Earth from noticing this, while Signum and Shamal only have to change their hairstyles.
- Whether Hayate asked for that limiter is actually a moot point: TSAB would have placed on her, regardless. Whether she actually wanted to have one on her in the first place is a different question, but I think pretty much every over-S mage in the series does so voluntarily. Frankly, she or he can kick pretty much anyone's ass through their sheer magical experience and skills, even without the crazy mana output.
- This is an interesting idea, but Hayate explicitly notes in the manga it's not the limiter that's her problem: she casts huge destructive magic that's great at huge destructive things, but her powers are not suited to combat up close and personal and against someone who has a melee device and the skill to use it, she has to blast them before they reach her or she's done. Hence the Wolkenritter: they can defend her in close combat. Now, the possiblity that Hayate has never tried to improve her close combat skills because she's afraid she'll go off the deep end and need to be stopped...
- It's possible she's just playing the I Am Not Left-Handed role to the hilt, and I can think of a couple reasons why she'd do this. The first is that she doesn't want the bureau to know how powerful she really is; people like Regius are already making her life difficult, but if they knew she could dish out as much pain as Rein Eins could, they'd do everything in their power to get her stuck in Red Tape Central for the rest of her career. Second option is that it's possible to focus her brand of destructive magic into small spells like an Axel Shooter or Black Impact but the act of doing so makes it automatically lethal and removes the possibility of dealing non-lethal magic damage like Nanoha does. If this were the case, it seems very reasonable to me that Hayate would simply rule out the possibility of using her magic like that and deliberately limit herself to an artillery role where she can use her enormous magic reserves without the risk of killing anyone.
- She states in the same part of the manga that it doesn't do much good to improve skills that one isn't naturally proficient with.
- I'd find that more convincing if Hayate didn't have a history of Heroic Self-Deprecation and comparing herself negatively to Caro of all people. This is the same girl who said she did a bad job of commanding Riot Force Six after StrikerS while the command structure was offering her promotions left and right. At this point she can say she doesn't have Skill X or Ability Y until she's blue in the face; I won't be convinced until I see her try and fail to cast a spell outside her specialty in a situation where lives are depending on her.
- Another possible reason she sees herself as weak isn't because she's unskilled, but because of the Tome of the Night Sky being an all powerful magical book, and she has only mastered few of its spells. If you think about it, the Tome of the Night Sky allows her to pull off all kinds of spells, ranging from simple spells to nukes, but the problem is that some, of not most of the spells are far too complicated even for her capabilities to master, and unlike Nanoha and Fate, who had ample time to master their magic and develop a defining style to suit their capabilities, Hayate had none of this due to the sheer number of spells she can use both in combat and as support, thus she only sticks to long range, heavy bombardment spells, probably under the idea that it allows her to easily eradicate any opposition with minimum effort and if that doesn't work, she can rely on her allies to clean up her mess.
While most of the Nanoha antagonists (with the exception of Precia, Scaglieti, the top four Numbers, Toredia, Runessa and most likely Hückebein) are portrayed as having sympathetic motives, the viewers are initially led to assume they are doing things for entirely bad reasons and the TSAB is always right to hunt them down and capture them. In this series, the TSAB agent closest to Thoma, Signum, is shown to be entirely ignorant of why he is fleeing with Lily and willing to capture him regardless of what his intentions are, while Thoma wants to contact Subaru, who knows him and his predicament, to find out what to do next. While this would indicate that the TSAB is portrayed less sympathetically than before, Thoma clearly seems to place saving Lily above all else, and given he is seemingly slowly losing control of himself. His approach could be the "well-meaning but flawed" one like the Wolkenritter's plan to fill the Book of Darkness, while Nanoha and the TSAB's approach is once again best, but given the way the story is centered around him, it seems to show how the conflict appears to someone in his situation.
... Or it could just be something about the Wolkenritter in Old Belka.
- That is pretty much a given, but considering how "maintext" the romantic relationships tend to be in this series, it will probably never be acknowledged officially.
- Maybe cliche, but I can see it now: A Light Is Not Good Tome of the Day/Morning Sky, complete with big frakkin' ball of light Angelic (or something) Emission to serve as an Evil Twin for the late? Anti Villainous, Dark Is Not Evil Rein Eins.
- As things are going on in FORCE, by this point it looks like "The Book of the Silver Cross" is actually more powerfull(or at least more dangerous) than "The Tome of the Night Sky".
- Debatable. The BOD did not get to go to full world-killer mode before Hayate ASSUMED DIRECT CONTROL, so we don't know what its full power really is. Admittedly, we don't know about the full power of Eclipse and the Silver Cross either yet.
- This troper recalls that it was Linith who created Bardiche and helped Fate bind Arf into her familiar... both of which continue to serve Fate faithfully and with a great deal of love. Thus, it could be said that Precia-as-Fate's-mother never really died, but was instead transferred from sick-Precia to Linith, and then from Linith to Bardiche and Arf. Wow, that's some seriously STRONG love.
- Statistically, Hückebein is much more likely to be yet anouther Shout-Out to the Super Robot Wars mecha, though.
- Alternatively, just as Hückebein from AC was a Defector from Decadence fleeing the evil Belkans, maybe the Nanoha Hückebein guys are renegades who once served a force of good and when everything is on the ropes for the TSAB, their former comrades will act as The Cavalry for Nanoha and co.
- Subaru's mother/original Quint used both Revolver Knuckles, which are different devices simultaneously and she was human.
- Perhaps they were originally one device, but were later modified to act as seperate devices.
- Teana's Cross Mirage is two guns. Schach has two tonfu sticks. A Device can consist of two parts...
- It can... only they were just inherited, not modified. Not to mention Hayate, who uses new Book of Night Sky and Schwertkreuz at the same time. And Strike Canon IS a device. Or at least no less device than Revolver Knuckles, Subaru's first rollerblades and Teana's Anchor Gun.
- I'm sorry, but what part of "This weapon is not a "magical device" (hereinafter referred to as "device"), but an armed interface being produced as a "magic-driven weapon." [emphasis added] makes you think the Strike Cannon is a device?
- Only by that logic they would need to reclassify Teana grappler gun and Subaru first scates. I can't see difference.
- The Strike Cannon uses magic as a power source, it is not used to cast spells. Teana's Anchor Gun, and Subaru's skates are used to cast spells.
- I don't see a problem: since Devices are very much like PCs, amateur-made ones like Teana and Subaru's are basically comparable to early personal computers of The '90s running MS-DOS. Intelligent Devices are something like the latest model MacBook in terms of performance and comfort. And Strike Cannon is like a PS3: a portable supercomputer but only specialized for one task. That's the difference. Therefore, I don't think Nanoha will be using both Strike Cannon and Raising Heart simultaneously like Subaru did with her Devices: either one after the other, or by merging them in the Mecha Expansion Pack kind of way.
- Only, you know... It's was Subaru that did exactly that - Revolver Knuckle(s) are interfaced through Mach Caliber, so de facto she uses one device and not two. And in article simultaneous use of RH and Strike Canon was explicitly stated - RH have new form for it, to act as support flying turret...
- Yes, Subaru did, but Revolver Knuckle is an Armed Device (okay, a half of an Armed Device, but still), i.e. it is capable of independent operation, as well. Strike Cannon, on the other hand, probably just shoots things and blows them up, i.e. its complexity is much smaller. We have to wait for details, but I would imagine that Strike Cannon doesn't actually need to be synchronized with a particular mage, and anyone sufficiently powerful (read: Fate and Hayate), not just Nanoha would be able to glue it to their Devices with little trouble. Nanoha is just everyone's favorite guinea pig for testing new weaponry.
- Only Revolver Knuckle is primitive Armed Device without any AI at all - and no different in that regard from Strike Canon. *** Why would TSAB let one of its top operatives (Quint) run around with a primitive Device?
- 1. If device is not intelligent device or same level of AI armed device is just a crutch, not anythings special and it's users skill that matters, not device 2. We don't know how many devices Quint had. Knuckles are family heirloom, bureau-issued device wouldn't be in family posession. 3. Quint wasn't one of they top operatives, Zest was.
- Isn't the new Book another manifestation of Reinforce Zwei (like the old Book was basically inhabited by the original Rein)? Does Nanoha use both Strike Canon and Raising Heart simultaneously?
- No, it's entirely separate storage device. More so, Rein have HER OWN version and in unison Hayate uses her staff, both books and Rein.
- Well, Hayate is a bad example in the first place. First, because she is so insanely powerful, restrictions applied to normal (under-S ranked) mages may not apply to her at all. Secondly, if the new Book is a Storage Device, it is probably more of a external HDD for Hayate than actual working Device like Schwertkreuz. Thirdly, she only uses all four of her Devices when in Unison with Rein, and that's pretty much what Unison Devices are for: helping the mage process much more magic than they physically can.
- Perhaps they were originally one device, but were later modified to act as seperate devices.
- The pairing isn't Pair the Spares case, it was Rule of Cool.
- Because Nuke Girl + Bunker Boy = Strategic Battle Couple
- In case of TSAB pressured Strongest Mages to have a child, you know the result.
- Because Authority Equals Asskicking, talk about two person that holds Authority, both are Four Star Bad Ass too. So...
- BetrayerS case, Hayate take over TSAB by herself. Add Yuuno on the dynamic. It's like combining US armed forces and CIA, talk about We Can Rule Together...
- Awesomeness Is Volatile, therefore, Canon NEVER took this idea, Fanon, not so much, again, Rule of Cool folks.
- Unlikely. Cyborgs still run on magic in Nanohaverse (because all Mid-Childan technology is magic-based, that's the Bureau's Obstructive Code of Conduct), and Hückebein's Eclipse is apparently a counter-technology that negates magic energy in all its forms. So it may be in fact more dangerous to cyborgs than purely organic beings. TSAB does have a counter-counter-technology in the testing: the AEC series (Strike Cannon, Sword Breaker), which probably converts mana to physical effects faster than Eclipse can negate it. However, cyborgs are still an obviously valuable asset, since at least four Nakajima sisters are already working for Hayate. PS: Subaru's IS is only effective against electronics. The Eclipse Drivers, as Cypha demonstrates, are made of something else entirely.
- First, the Bureau bans Mass Weapons, not nonmagical technology. Second, even if they did ban nonmagical technology in general, the Combat Cyborgs were created by Jail do you really think he's going to care about what the law says?
- The fact that Subaru was able to use her Combat Cyborg skills inside the Cradle completely disproves this. The Combat Cyborgs are not using magic as a powersource, and their enhanced abilities and I.S. are not at all magic-related, or Subaru would not have been able to function inside the Cradle, much less rescue Nanoha and Hayate. (Who had all their mage abilities disabled, even simple communications!)
- The Cradle's AMF grew stronger the further in they progressed: they passed a group of mages led by Vita fighting Gadget Drones, who were fine. Deep inside, Subaru only used magic to punch through the wall and she charged that punch before actually entering the most densely AMFed area, the Throne Room. Plus, magic wasn't completely disabled even inside the Throne Room: Nanoha and Hayate still had their Barrier Jackets (which require mana upkeep, as A's demonstrated) on. It is feasible, however, that combat cyborgs are shielded against AMF (only logical, if we assume that magic is vital for them), which is how I understood Subaru's ability to survive inside the AMF. Likewise, the Devices, who are even more of a magitek construct than cyborgs, are probably shielded against AMF, since Rein felt pretty well (except that she couldn't gather up any mana).
- Personally I find it very significant that Cypha says the Dividers specifically allow the Hückebein to neutralize the links between the mana particles in a spell, like a souped-up instant-AMF-on-contact effect; what about spells and magical objects that use unlinked mana, like Subaru's Duster Knuckle spell? The cyborgs could concievably be powered by unlinked mana and still be able to function under full AMF, and this would make them immune to the Hückebein's anti-magic abilities because there's no links for the Dividers to break either in their attacks or in their internal systems.
Which leads on to...
- If I were a TSAB technician, I'd remove the Blaster System from Raising Heart the moment the JS Incident was over, regardless of whether it had Level Four or not. Knowing Nanoha, she'd start practicing with the Blaster System on her own if left alone.
- Wouldn't that make a WMG on its own?
- Probably jossed. Signum's fire conversion didn't make any difference in her fight with Cypha, so it's doubtful the new power-up is based on an ineffective ability.
- Not yet. Thoma Reacted survived a (aparently non-magic)Plasma Arc unharmed in Lily's facility back in chapter 1. Considering theyr powers, its likely the Hückebein aren't just resistant to magic, but to fire as well. Fate managed to use lightning to destroy the Book of Silver Cross.
- So was the old Belkan homeworld destroyed by the Second Impact?
- Err, considering that that it's original purpose (the one that inspired the Belkan scientist) is being an automatic magic archivist instead of a tool for an Assimilation Plot or harnessing god-like powers, then no. That could make a nice separate WMG, though...Giant Naked Rein, anybody?
- I see what you did there. o__O
- Alternately Precia had the same the relationship with her Magical Girl as Fate had with Nanoha and ended up adopting a little girl by the name of Alicia. After her significant other was lost in a dimensional rift in the middle of a mission Precia threw herself into her work, trying to retrieve her lost love, while still taking time out of her day to care for the only connection she had to that love. of course we all know what happened after that and as a result of losing the only good thing she had left in her life then having her attempt at replacing it fail she quickly became the woman we all know and despise
- While Yuuno is conspicuously absent on the list of Vivio's important people, Vivio never goes to the Infinity Library in ViVid, only stopping by a normal library that may be the school library.
- Then who's the candidate of Axel? That... uh... nun with bladed tonfa (What's her name again?)? Looks too insignificant to take Axel's place.
- Schach, and neither she nor any of the other Saint Church characters have appeared in Force.
Tre and Sette will essentially be on the exact opposite tack of the Combat Cyborgs who got off lightly and remember Jail with fondness as a good father. Both of them were there when Quattro tried to kill Fate by collapsing Jail's Elaborate Underground Base. Both them will be acutely aware that A: there was no threat to the overall plan, as Fate couldn't have gotten to the Cradle in time to change the final outcome (or she would have tried to do just that), B: Jail had a backup plan in the event of his death, but they didn't, and C: Jail did not intervene to try and save their and Uno's lives, instead doing the gleeful-cackling routine at Fate. At the final extreme, Jail Scaligetti treated them as utterly expendible. Their opinion of Jail as a father is thus unlikely to be very positive.
- It's unclear where Cinque was during the self-destruction, but it's likely that she was recovering in the base, and was captured when her wounds prevented her from resisting. Since she has an "indefinite" sentence, like the imprisoned Combat Cyborgs, and suspects that she will never be free, the imprisoned Combat Cyborgs (with the possible exception of Sette) will never be released as long as they refuse to cooperate.
- This arguably has much more to do with Cinque's transhuman nature than her crimes. She is after all an immortal superhuman in a society that does still apparently consist mostly of non-mages. Her I.S. alone makes her incredibly, ridiculously dangerous, but the simple fact that Cinque can break walls with her bare hands means that some sort of difference in the application of the law is necessary because she is not like those whom the law was written for. Placing her under indefinite suspended sentence is a tactful way of doing this without changing the letter of the law to accomodate a whole new class of people. While it's unlikely they'll ever let Quattro go because she shows all the signs of being a complete pyschopath, Tre is most probably sane since she had to command the Numbers in action effectively, and Uno could well be sane depending on how much of what was done to Jail was genetic and how much was brainwashing. The TSAB is not the sort of organization to lock you up and throw away the key unless you're completely beyond any sort of redemption.
- Agreed. Other than being loyal to Scaglietti (or to Tre, in Sette's case) and thus turning a blind eye to the harm his agenda caused, neither Uno, Tre nor Sette seemed to be actively malicious themselves. If they wanted to, they could probably integrate into society without much difficulty. Quattro is definitely a sociopath and best kept behind bars, though.
- Tre refuses to cooperate with the investigation, but worries about her sisters. It's unclear where, if anywhere, this will lead.
- This arguably has much more to do with Cinque's transhuman nature than her crimes. She is after all an immortal superhuman in a society that does still apparently consist mostly of non-mages. Her I.S. alone makes her incredibly, ridiculously dangerous, but the simple fact that Cinque can break walls with her bare hands means that some sort of difference in the application of the law is necessary because she is not like those whom the law was written for. Placing her under indefinite suspended sentence is a tactful way of doing this without changing the letter of the law to accomodate a whole new class of people. While it's unlikely they'll ever let Quattro go because she shows all the signs of being a complete pyschopath, Tre is most probably sane since she had to command the Numbers in action effectively, and Uno could well be sane depending on how much of what was done to Jail was genetic and how much was brainwashing. The TSAB is not the sort of organization to lock you up and throw away the key unless you're completely beyond any sort of redemption.
Reaching back to the time of Ancient Belka, there has been a single cabal of powerful individuals secretly directing the course of multiverse history. If you don't believe it, here are some questions for you:
- The Sankt Kaisers of the old days were eventually reduced to figureheads, symbols, and most powerful units in the field. As Ixy mentions in SSX, she and the Kaisers were nothing but tools and weapons used in endless wars. By whom?
- The Combat Cyborg project was adopted by Scaglietti, who only perfected it, while the prototype Type Zero cyborgs were created by another scientist. Who was he/she?
- An illegal secret research facility was experimenting on a Unison Device from the Ancient Belkan era in StrikerS. Who created it?
- Someone leaked the supposedly top-secret information on both a Sankt Kaiser clone and Dark King Ixpellia's presence on Mid-Childa to Einhart Stratos in Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Vi Vid. Who was it?
- Another illegal secret research facility experimented on Lily Strosek, an EC Reactor, in Force, and wasn't above incinerating the intruder along with the evidence (and probably not above pinning their crimes on Hückebein). Who set it up?
It should be obvious that after the last Sankt Kaiser abdicated (or was killed without an heir), some Belkans (especially rich and powerful) were not happy about it. The history books (SSX booklet) are notoriously vague on the fate of those who called themselves "Belkans" in modern times. It is likely that IF there was a cabal ruling the Belkan empire from the shadows through their puppet Sankt Kaisers, they would likely go into hiding after their defeat. Using their wealth from the Belkan times, they would prepare for a rebellion against TSAB and the Saint Church, just like the Grey Men of the original Belka from Ace Combat. Or, if the universes are connected, could they be actual (followers of the) Grey Men?
Combat Cyborg program and the experiments with Ancient Belkan technologies (likely in attempt to learn to mass-produce them) are obviously projects to produce weapons for the future rebellion. Their interest in locating the Sankt Kaiser is also obvious: such group would want to either turn her into their puppet, just like in the old times, or kill her, since Olivie was the one responsible for their fall. Lastly, as one of the entries above suggests, the conspiracy may be currently headed by Alicia and Fate Testarossa's biological father.
- Also, Caledfwlch Techniques is Their Front Organization. This way, then get ludicrous sums of money from the Bureau for AEC equipment development, get to test it on live targets, with the best beta-testers of the Burea, and when the zero hour comes, they can easily counteract their own AEC weaponry, would the Bureau try to use it against them. Also, if Caledwlch did secretly own the lab that Thoma trashed in chapter 1, it'd explain their ability to produce Anti-Eclipse weapons when nobody is supposed to know that much about Eclipse. It's a win-win situation for them.
- Now that I think of it, the Saint Church must have been working with them all along or was brought under their control between StrikerS and Force. We all know that The Church tends to be the Antimagical Faction in normal circumstances. While the Saint Church rather atypically embraces magic, they do eschew Mid-Childan magic—in favor of Ancient Belkan one! Don't you see? The Church is a perfect front organization for the Belkan conspiracy, since if they are ever busted, they will just hide behind religion! The Church in fiction also often trains Mage Killers—which is exactly what the Hücks are. Except that they obviously went rogue just like Scaglietti. The "nuns" that Veyron killed weren't really nuns but Church Knights sent to apprehend him—they shot first and he acted in self-defense! Also, why is it that we haven't seen even a glimpse of a Church clergy (except those nuns) in Force yet? Not even Carim, who had to be behind the Special Duty Section 6... unless she was removed.
Her not knowing about Vivio's Older Alter Ego is not the only time this has happened; near the end of the Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS manga, Hayate leads Fate to the final battle between the forwards and the captains without telling her what it is. This could be the result of Fate being possibly the most serious and socially awkward of the three Aces, compared to the more cheerful Nanoha and the sometimes mischievious Hayate, making her reactions all the more amusing. Rather than it being a case of being so Married to the Job that she doesn't hear about Vivio's ability to transform at will, Erio, Caro and Vivio most likely assumed Nanoha told her already and didn't say anything.
If Signum's injuries left her unable to join battle again, then maybe she had a little breakdown(or even anHeroic BSoD) an reminds Agito of their promise claiming that now she's unable to live up to Zest's ideals.
- Technically, the wording was that Signum asked to be killed if she strayed off her present path like Regius had. It's less clear what Agito would do next if Signum were crippled but still remained honorable.
- Not in Force, it seems, as Signum is back up and running again.
- Good catch. That explains why Aru considers her the most dangerous of the three, why she doesn't have a Device despite being an aerial mage (her gloves may be an Inherent Equipment), and why Thoma trusted her immediately (he is conditioned by Subaru to trust cyborg girls :D). The question remains on who built her: it couldn't have been Scaglietti, and no indication has been given that the Type Zero batch included more than two specimen. She is probably currently on the run from her creators (the Ancient Belkan Conspiracy?), probably.
PS: Oh, and her AEC Equipment would be simply an upgrade module for Laevatein that converts mana directly into other forms of energy. She doesn't need much more than that.
- With the introduction of Bardiche as a prototype for the 5th Generation Device system wich is stated to be only capable to be handled by strong mages with great mana control or a "mana conversion ability" such as lightning or "fire". It's almost implied that Laevatein maybe undergo this treatement, he gets almost destroyed and, by this point, it's pointless to simply restore it to his original state, So Yeah maybe he gets a real upgrade after all.
- In the land where ancient crystals and infinite greed gather and intertwine, the wings shall revive from the holy land, beneath the dead king. "Ancient crystals and infinite greed" is obviously referring to the relics and the Unlimited Desire project that created Jail. "Dead King", likewise, most likely refers to Vivio, and the wings are probably a reference to Nanoha.
- But, before this, the ship of law that guards the many seas shall be torn apart. The Prophecy Twist itself, of course. But note the order the events take place in; the Cradle is supposed to be destroyed before the events of the second part, and since the Cradle is destroyed right at the end of StrikerS, the second part of the prophecy can't have been fulfilled in that season.
- Wasn't Asura scheduled to be decomissioned at the beginning of StrikerS (hence Chrono getting a new ship)? The ship of law part might refer to her.
- The dead shall dance, and the tower of law in the central lands shall burn to the ground. Here comes the fun part; taken solely in the context of StrikerS, "the dead shall dance" could be interpreted as Project F mages like Zest and Vivio running around, but outside that context it could also refer much more directly to the Mariage. Or maybe not; maybe it's just talking about Vivio and Ingvalt going on a date and hitting a night club or something. If it was referring to the Mariage, on the other hand, then the last part is most likely foreshadowing events in Force or Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Vi Vid.
Basically, Megane was a DMG, Quint befriended her, they became a couple Just Friends. Since it was still the time when Magical Girls were supposed to marry, Quint married Genya for show but continued her relationship with Megane (then again, lesbian office affairs are obviously not a big deal on the Mid). Genya probably knew about and accepted it, which is why they didn't have any kids, but jumped at the chance to adopt Quint's clones. Also explains why rainbows are straighter than at least one of her "daughters". As for Megane's own daughter, see the above theory.
Where am I going with this? Diabolic Emission. Ragnarok. Blaster Mode Exceed Max Starlight Breaker. Arc-en-Ciel. Multiple Arc-en-Ciels. Of course, unless the Hückies somehow cause the crossing of the Godzilla Threshold, we might not see the Fantastic Nuclear Option in play.
- Bad comparisons. Both AITDW and 40K have that option present in the source material (Ramiel and several other angels were killed without the use of an AT-Field in Eva), but the Hücks have been presented so far as being utterly immune to all forms of magic. This was the whole point of having Cypha laugh off a direct hit from Signum in Unison with Agito — and if you recall Karyuu Issen, Unison Signum is close to Hayate's level of destructive power — and as we've seen they can regenerate any damage they take. So it's possible they can be hurt by magic, but it is absolutely not cost-effective to bust out Blaster Mode just to give the Hücks a few bruises, and the Aces are just about the biggest guns the bureau has that are effective against man-sized targets.
- And aided by the fact of the Hückebein Warship being a giant-sized Divider capable of totally negate a giant beam the size of a Starlight Breaker coming from the Wolfram's(Hayate's assigned Warship) main weapon called "Augusto" while the Hückebein are preparing lunch.
- ... If Nanoha uses Starlight Breaker as an anti-personnel weapon then obviously you don't use a mere Starlight Breaker-scale weapon in space-naval combat. Comprehende, amigo? After all, If violence wasn't your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it. I will concede, though, that the Bureau may not think the situation dire enough.
- There's a gaping hole halfway through the Saint's Cradle that would like a word with you, "amigo". Regardless, calling the Augusto a "Starlight Breaker-class" weapon is dubious at best, seeing how we never see what sort of damage it does to targets that aren't immune to magic. In all likelyhood it's a lot more potent than a "mere" SLB and the Hücks' ship didn't even twitch from a direct hit. There is still the Arc-en-Ciel but the bureau seems to have known about the Hückebein for a while now (hence the convenient availability of the AEC equipment) and if they didn't outfit the Wolfram with an Arc like they did for the Asura back in the Book of Darkness case, then it's probably because they don't think it will be effective. Either that or the heroes are trying to bring the Hücks in alive instead of atomizing them.
- Eclipse could well confer an even higher level of magic resistance than the AMF on board the Cradle. I'll concede, though, that the Bureau might want them alive. Either way, it seems that we won't be getting anywhere here until an Arc-en-Ciel actually gets fired at them.
Of course there's more than one way to be a powerful mage in this series, and Yuuno happens to have taken that way; what he lacks in magical power he makes up for with a mastery of the mathematical skills necessary for high-level spellcasting. We see this with his multi-tasking during the above-mentioned A's battle, shielding himself against getting hammered while trying to decode Vita's barrier and prep a teleport spell for everyone. The problem is that while Yuuno is Weak, but Skilled, the skills he has don't lend themselves well to magical combat; most of his spells have potential offensive uses, but as noted one of the other WMGs, they're too lethal for Yuuno to use them like that. At this point the only thing he's really good for is as a field medic or a magical AWACS unit, and Shamal is a more powerful (and less squishy) mage who can fill both of those roles just fine.
- Nanoha and Shamal have Devices. Yuuno does not. His true potential is unknown until he has his own Klar Wint.
- You forgot that Nanoha was putting her full attention into fighting Vita and defending from her attacks, and still had trouble even before the cartridge load. Yuuno was NOT giving Vita his full attention or power because he was trying to break down Vita's containment barrier. He clearly wasn't just retreating and blocking while Vita chased, either; when we watch them fight from a distance, the green light (Yuuno) charges directly towards and clashes with the red light (Vita); further, we don't KNOW that Vita didn't use a cartridge while fighting him, since most of their fight is off-screen or too far away to make out the details. In fact, if Signum was willing to use cartridges against Fate, wouldn't Vita have done the same when her regular attacks proved incapable of hurting Yuuno? We're shown pretty decisively that when Vita doesn't break through at first, she gets serious and puts everything into the strike. There's pretty much no way she didn't pop a shell against Yuuno. Yet, Yuuno suffers absolutely no wounds by the end of that fight, unlike Nanoha or Fate. AND HE DOES IT ALL WITHOUT A DEVICE.
- In Yuuno's defense I can add the fact that the only two times a barrier created by him gets pierced in canon are first against Starlight Breaker Plus and then against the Triple Breaker, the first's a very powerfull spell with barrier piercing capabilities (as showed when it destroys Vita's barrier) and the second is the combination of the three more powerful character attacks at the time, any other time his shields and barriers have worked just fine, then again he's regarded as versatile but wasted character, not only because of the Razor Floss, he can also cast Struggle Bind (you know, those chains with dispelling abilities) and is capable of teleport targets agains their own will (a feat that even Shamal doesen't show to have). Sadly it's true that he can't catch up by the time of FORCE because almost all of his usefull spells are rendered useless now by the Hückebein, super-strong barriers are not of much help against someone who can simply negate them.
- Having his shields broken by a powerful spell doesn't make Yuuno special. If he'd blocked a Starlight Breaker at some point without his shields breaking that'd be one thing, but without an incident like that the best we've got is his fight against Vita, which isn't quite as impressive as most people make it out to be. Chain Bind's ability to do physical damage is nothing special, we see magic spells alternate between physical and non-lethal damage all the time, and while Struggle Bind is useful, it's not nearly enough for Yuuno to call himself a combat mage (when was the last time you saw a mage in this series cast one spell over and over again for an extended fight scene?). Forced teleportation is a neat trick, but its main use is as a delaying tactic when Yuuno is trying to run interference for someone, in cases such as pursuing a criminal or dueling a rogue mage its usefulness is significantly lessened.
- And this is exactly where the franchise fails to balance character potential, Yuuno can't be an effective direct fighter but can aid great support, the fail part is, support mages are really underrated in Nanoha. For example, Shamal who is claimed by some to be better at support than Yuuno gets quickly Demoted to Extra in Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS, then on the same season comes Caro who use her support spells ONCE (to give Erio extra power to defeat a Gadget Drone Type III) and then only shine when summon her dragons(after Voltaire shows up Caro go full sommoner and less support for the rest of the series). It's only in recent chapters of Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Vi Vid when support magic came to shine again with Caro and Lutecia (who did a better support role than Caro in StrikerS) as fullbacks. In FORCE the situation already leaves any non walking-killing-machine character to the sidelines(and apparently it isn't any support mages among the new cast) so it's pretty clear that non-full combatants are never fully apreciated. Still, Yuuno doesn't fight Vita, he only stalls her while focused on destroying the barrier. Also there's nothing wrong with his shields been broken by SLB Plus and Triple Breaker, if had managed to block SLB that intantly would launch him to Game-Breaker status(something the franchise trying to avoid at least in the past), the two aformentioned spells are used to defeat Eldritch Abominations, dark magical girls and cloned superpowerfull Ancient Belkan rulers so it's plotwise understandable that Yuuno can't contain such powerful attacks, other than that is an example of a character who is only good on one thing but does really well on that.
- I beg to differ. Lutecia's teleportation spells were instrumental in Jail's attack on the Ground Forces and Caro uses her support magic for all kinds of stuff (boosting Teana's illusions is a common trick). If all you can remember her doing is Twin Boost: Slash and Strike, then you probably need to watch the series again. If Caro got shafted in StrikerS, she got shafted for the same reason everyone else did (too many characters, not enough screentime), and not specifically because she was a support mage.
- Yuuno's problem is his personality. He's far too directly confrontational to be a good support mage. Shamal gets it and acts like a sniper, making sure her opponents are not aware of her until it's too late to react, concealing her presence on the field until she's needed. Unless the series steps it up to a consistantly lethal level where he (and Shamal) could cut loose with the Tele-Frag, Yuuno'll never be able to compete because he doesn't seem to know how to best play the role.
- Shamal has Klar Wint's pendulum form to aid her scrying, which allows her to easily cast magic from a distance. Yuuno doesn't have any such Device. Give him one, and the power boost will give him new options.
- There is some overlap between the Bureau and the Church, as Carim is once referred to as a Church knight who is part of the Bureau, and wears a blue Bureau uniform to the press conference, so this is possible.
- I wouldn't be so quick to make Veyron's parrying of Thoma's attacks a reason for claiming that he's that much weaker. Remember that The Law of Diminishing Defensive Effort has been averted before with Rein Eins still using barriers even though she can shrug off crap thrown at her perfectly fine without them. I will concede that I have no explanation for the bleeding, though.
- I think that it was already cemented by bringing back one of the most awesome characters this franchise have and beat the tar out of her and left her near death.
- You are forgetting that as of Force chapter 10, it is established that Combat Cyborgs (Subaru) are just as vulnerable against Eclipse effects as purely organic mages.
- To be fair Subaru succumbs to Thoma's Divide Zero, an ability that apparently neither of the Hückebein posesses and that is much more dangerous than the Hückebein's anti-magic capabilities(they also are affected by Dvide Zero much to their own surprise), also, if the theory about Isis being a cyborg results true, then cyborgs can stand against an Eclipse Driver not named Thoma(As of Ch. 11 preview all indicates that Isis will face Arnage, considering that she's a new character i really doubt that this will end in another Curb-Stomp Battle), also the information Regius have probably was inaccurately(like the info Signum had before facing Cypha). So, efective or not, it's plausible that they developed cyborgs with the Hückebein in mind.
- Earlier in chapter 9 (I think), Subaru faces Veyron and is not much more effective against him than other members of the strike team against their respective opponents. And that's considering that she already has her AEC equipment on her.
- That only counts if Subaru is fighting in Cyborg mode, we know that if she fights as a mage she's bound to the same handicaps as them, but we likely can't confirm this because we can't see if her eyes are golden or normal(i'm inclined to think she isn't because the cyborgs "circuit circle" and/or the "IS" patern around her attacks are nowhere to be seen). Still i don't think Arnage consider Isis dangerous only because of her amazing powder powers.
- Hayate never sent Wolkies against the Hückebein (in fact, she keeps Vita at long range fire support and Shamal, inside Wolfram). Signum was never supposed to even meet them before her AEC equipment was ready, she just was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
- Well yeah, they're made of magic but apparently they're more condensed than simple spells or Jackets, reacted Dividers cancel magic by cutting the links that allow the spell to take form and effect that's why any magical attack or barrier is useless against them, but i don't think that functions the same for magical living beings(specially if said beings are able to cast their own magic) if that were the truth, Signum and Agito would be erased of existence instead of sustaining critical injuries.
- Even attaching them to the task force meant to the fight the Hückebein seems silly, though, considering what happened to Signum. Especially when Wolkenritter are accustomed to otherwise absorbing a killing blow as if nothing had happened. (Witness Vita aboard the Cradle.) Even arming the Wolkenritter with AEC weapons is dangerous; if you give them the tools to fight Hückebein, somebody's going to be tempted to use them to fight Hückebein. If the Wolkenritter are really as vulnerable as it appears from what happened to Signum then risking them is at best negligent. They are extremely powerful, capable mages, some of the best the Bureau has, and preserving them to fight other threats later would seem the wiser course of action.
- So, wait, in your view the Wolkies will just let themselves be hit, thinking they'll survive it? That makes the trained warriors sound pretty damn incompetent.
- And what the Wolkies themselves want is not an issue at all? Remember, they have sworn to protect Hayate as far back as A's, and that's not an oath you can break without compomising your very self. In one way or another, they had to be at her side during a crisis this big, and it's better to have them armed for this occasion. More than anything, what happened to Signum shows the dangers of splitting the team (in more ways than one).
- Exactly, they definetly not the kind of people who retreats when they have something important to do, also i think Signum's demise is supossed to indicate the fate that awaits for ANY mage that attempts to confront(without the new toys) the Hückebein, not just the Wolkenritter. Also we must admit that despite all the claims over the matter, Signum put up a hell of a fight to an otherwise invincible opponent.
- They've been deployed separately from Hayate before. Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS did it quite a lot and the preceding manga actually had the Wolkenritter as part of different units from Hayate. For that matter, their personal feelings are irrelevant. Duty first is the air the Wolkenritter breathe and how they got through life before Hayate. The would have sworn an oath of service like any other Bureau member. If they're ordered, particularly by Hayate, not to do something, then they will not do it.
- Let's just that we have different character interpretations. When the Wolkies were deployed separately, Hayate was never in particular danger. Now, the Hücks are a danger to every mage in the multiverse, so naturally, they want to be by her side. And as for their oath... I think your misunderstand something: they are with TSAB because Hayate is. It is true that they wanted to repent for their crimes after A's (see SS03), but their first and foremost desire is to spend the rest of their lives with Hayate (see StrikerS episode 18, I think, where her conversation with Shamal reveals that they are not longer immortal). Oh, and by the way, they also kinda have a record of ignoring Hayate's direct orders if they think it will save her life.
- Arf mentions in the Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS manga and Sound Stage M2 that, apparently at Fate's suggestion, she retired from active duty and now does chores around the Harlaown house while looking after Chrono and Amy's kids (and apparently also has spent a fair amount of time around Erio and Caro), saying that Fate is strong enough to protect herself and is no longer alone. Similarly, while Hayate's magic is such that she's almost useless in single combat and only reaches her full potential in a group, her subordinates can provide support, which is why she can serve separate from the Wolkenritter if necessary, calling them together for major threats like Scaglietti and the Hückebein.
- Even attaching them to the task force meant to the fight the Hückebein seems silly, though, considering what happened to Signum. Especially when Wolkenritter are accustomed to otherwise absorbing a killing blow as if nothing had happened. (Witness Vita aboard the Cradle.) Even arming the Wolkenritter with AEC weapons is dangerous; if you give them the tools to fight Hückebein, somebody's going to be tempted to use them to fight Hückebein. If the Wolkenritter are really as vulnerable as it appears from what happened to Signum then risking them is at best negligent. They are extremely powerful, capable mages, some of the best the Bureau has, and preserving them to fight other threats later would seem the wiser course of action.
- After Fate had a power limiter put on herself, and was fighting 2-on-1, I should note. The Hücks have no such handicap.
- It's noted that the power limiter is given out to the "adults", which is a somewhat vague term (it's unclear whether it includes just Nanoha and Fate, or the Forwards, Lutecia and Nove), but it could be of different strength, as while Nanoha and Fate's limiters reduce them two ranks in Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS, Hayate's takes her down by four.
- Potentially Jossed, at least so far; Curren takes him down almost effortlessly, along with Vita. Subaru seems poised to be the "best card," at least as far as dealing with Thoma goes.
- It's noted that the power limiter is given out to the "adults", which is a somewhat vague term (it's unclear whether it includes just Nanoha and Fate, or the Forwards, Lutecia and Nove), but it could be of different strength, as while Nanoha and Fate's limiters reduce them two ranks in Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS, Hayate's takes her down by four.
- This will be probably jossed soon(and i hope for it), when it's true that Cypha didn't demonstrate to be able to keep on par with Signum's skill before reacting, she also proves how dangerous her Eclipse powers are, her profile also states that she's a founder member of the group and also an Ace, wich she demonstrates by apparently having a higher chain in command than Arnage ans leading the welcome team(Veyron and Deville) during said boarding battle, she apparently is the kind of villain that enjoys torturing his foes, so probably she was measuring Fate's capabilities until Thoma interrupts her(and everyone), she doesen't look specially worried while fighting Fate(wich is demonstrated by contrast with her reaction to Thoma's attack wich is much more surprised and dramatic). As much as i hate her, it will be a shame if she results to be a weak opponent(just adding more hulliation to Signum's defeat).
- As much as I hoped it won't happen, it can happen to further the similarity with Lamia. Cypha being a weaker member of the Hückebein would be mirroring how Juergen was basically a nobody-class villain who got lucky shot in humiliating Lamia.
- It's still soon to determine that, while it's true Signum's situation mirror Lamia's somewhat, the similarities ends in both being defeated by a newcomer. Again as much as i hate Cypha i must admit that she fight a one-on-one battle(with an unfair advantage but is still one on one) while Juergen just take Lamia by surprise(still the situation is metaphorically the same, Lamia was out of her mecha while Signum have her powers nullified and her weapon rendered useless by Cypha's Game-Breaker powers), Still Cypha is able to hold an upgraded Fate with ease during the ship assault and the battle is short lived thanks to Thoma, unlike Juergen who gets offed quite easily right on his next fight. We still didn't see her fight a fair battle yet(that is, against an opponent whose powers she can't negate, thus needing to truly use her combat skills), when that happens we're finally going to see if her bite is as strong as her bark.
- Well, to be honest, Juergen did put up quite the massive fight against the EFA, if comparisons are to be taken how Cypha held off an upgraded Fate... We're just probably waiting for the 'Duminuss' of Force to show its head and then off Cypha and maybe the rest of the Hückebeins (or, failing that, one of the Hückebeins stabbed her in the back, killing her)
- Other possibility is because of the release of the new product◊ from Caledfwich Techniques, there are now theories of the security company being the real Big Bad of FORCE. Planning to supply the heroes with faulty prototypes on purpose to make their real product to look good by comparission. If that turns out to be the case at the moment Signum awakes I really doubt she think of going to battle with the AEC equipment designed for her. Probably causing Laevatein to undergo the 5th Gen Upgrade or simply go hardcore and rushing to the battle with her normal devices and a dangerous strategy.
- Society: The Mid is basically a clean, scientifically advanced Utopia that the communists of early 20th century believed themselves to be able to achieve.
- Economy: The topic of money is thoroughly neglected throughout the series, but everyone keeps working to their fullest, and there are no homeless or poverty.
- Thats EXTREMELY dubious. Just because YOU dont see it doesnt mean its not there. The series just doesnt focus on such possible elements. For all the characters How many were not already working within the military?
- Politics: There are no politics, instead, the entire government on the Mid consists of the Bureau, read: the Communist Party.
- Religion: Religion is not abandoned altogether, but put into service of the state, with only one ideology propagated across the worlds, even where TSAB is not present yet.
- That doesn't quite work. We see monetary transactions with the devices doubling as credit cards in Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS.
- They won't let her. She would wipe the floor with pretty much everyone thanks to her vast real combat experience—just like she did with Einhart during their training. Plus, she made a career
wiping the floor withcooling the heads of wannabe mages for their own good. Even the reduced mana output of a child's body won't do much to diminish her power, since she was already a AAA ranked mage in A's. Face it: not even Vivio can beat Loli!Nanoha.
- This is why theres "little to no magic at all" on Earth.
- Remember that the only time we hear an explanation, it's an adult talking to a child. Both Nanoha and Graham had contact with the TSAB SHORTLY into their respective exposures to magic. Graham did not not want Nanoha to be aware of the grim organizations residing on Earth, and the implications.
- The only reason Nanoha and her friends are not currently dead, imprisoned, or worse, is because the TSAB was able to get there first; and also establish "first dibs" on claim to the Jewel Seeds. The SCP Foundation(or its resident expy) fears the far larger TSAB and so did not go to arms over the matter.
- There is a nearly identical theory on Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Open One.
Now why on Earth would anyone want to create an absurdly powerful living weapon that's immune to magic and needs to kill to live? Well for starters, if the Eclipse virus is able to spread beyond the handful of individuals currently infected with it, the bureau could be facing an epidemic of super-powered mass murderers that their magic is useless against. In such a situation, there would be a sudden and immense demand for mass weapons capable of hurting an Eclipse Driver. And isn't it a curious coincidence that Caledfwlch Techniques just so happens to have a line of magic-driven weapons armed and ready for testing just in time for the bureau's hunt for the Book of the Silver Cross?
- Caledfwlch are obviously the Front Organization for the Belkan Conspiracy (see above).
- Calling it now. Caledfwlch Techniques ARE the Duminuss answer to Hückebein's ODE.
- Suspicion confirmed in-story in chapter 17.
- Except that Fortis says that they need to find Veyron's Divider soon and Reactors are not supposed to have Dividers, logically. Unless... Curren deliberately didn't tell him of Veyron's true nature, knowing that he is The Starscream! Which leads us to...
- This could also explain how the official language of the TSAB is literally English.
- Looking at Subaru's trend of being "the friend of all children" this seems to be plausible.
- Teana is gonna be sooo happy about yet another loli rival.
- Rein was created using the linker core of Reinforce (and possibly part of Hayate's?).
- Agito is ancient. It's very probable, though not outright stated, that she was Signum's unison device before she got absorbed into the Book. Although we don't know how she was created, it might stand to reason that a unison device is created optimized for a specific master, and that this assignment can't be changed after the act.
- Considering that part of the Book of Darkness in the PSP game Gears of Destiny was actually human before becoming Unlimited Darkness, it's very probable.
- And also The Florian Sisters, who are guardians of time, are causing trouble with the main cast because of the split timeline caused when Reinforce didn't perform her "Heroic Sacrifice" at the end of A's like her Main Counterpart.
- This is debatable as Einhart is able to defeat Nove and there are other even more powerfull fighters there like Micaiah who is able to beat Einhart in a practice and slice buses with barely any effort. There's also Sieglinde who is strong enough to curbstomp Micaiah herself and is an undefeated champion.
- Nove didn't even use her IS against Heidi IIRC, yet she managed to plant a bug on her and make her collapse a minute later. In other words, Nove was in control of the fight the whole time. As for Sieglinde and Micaiah, sure, they have nice techniques and it may bring them victory, but they are not kicking ass for a living like the Forwards.
- She probably recognized that if she even showed fear and regret about the loss, it would severely demoralize the whole team. She recognized the defeat, but she'll not let her emotions and fear get the best of her, so she's been hiding it. Or not, considering on how she instantly sparred with Thoma to get some idea on how to fight Mage Killer weapon. In other words, she might not ignore what just happened, but she'd rather not let the others know her worry or else it demoralizes the whole squad.
- At least that can be interpreted as a confirmation of this WMG. Signum is pretty councsious she's at horrible disadvantage in front of Cypha and basically any fully reacted EC Driver. Her usual combat style that credited her as a Lightning Bruiser got totally destroyed by the new rules of the setting, she can fight but isn't able to deal lasting damage to a Hückebein and she can't stand even one hit from almost any of them, her trusty companion is repaired but hasn't received any upgrades so she more likely will receive a totally different AEC-weapon that she's not used to fight with(and if we go by the showed quality of blades on AEC-equips, i'll say it won't be as trusty as Laevatein xDU). Plus, she's fully councsious that she's now even weaker than when she confronted Cypha the first time, her body wasn't able to fully recover and is even implied that she may suffer permanent sequels because of that last impalement that go directly through her guts injuring her spine. Her fangs are broke and she know it, that's why she's suddenly modest and calm. It could be very justified for her to feel afraid of the Eye-Patched monster that puts her on that situation.
- Goes hand in hand with the "Evil MegaCorp" theory about Caledwlch and Vandein.
- Alternate theory: She does know what is going on, and that is why she is distancing herself. It's why she packs a device that uses chemicals rather than magic.
- Let's not forget that Al Hazard was already a lost civilization even in the times of Ancient Belka so probably also the Belkan technology has some of it's roots on that.
- It was first seen and used by Yuuno, an archaeologist, who couldn't even use it properly, despite knowing the incantation on how to activate it. He may have read the specs of the device through some kind of decryption magic but is unable to use it because he lacks certain qualities.
- Raising Heart only works properly when somebody possessing high magical powers (in this case, Nanoha) uses it, making this a rather specific criteria for it's usage. It can be said that Raising Heart requires a lot of magical energy for it to work, thus any mage below a certain rank (possibly AAA, since Nanoha registers at that rank on the TSAB scale in the first season) wouldn't be able to handle it.
- Tuning up and/or upgrading Raising Heart as stated by Nanoha herself is quite difficult as the necessary parts needed for it are either rare, or is already out of production. If upgrades are possible (such is the case with the cartridge system), there are other parts that may need tuning up or reinforcement.
- Raising Heart functions mostly as a high powered beam cannon/shotgun/rifle, putting emphasis on power and range. This characteristics coincide with the Mid-Childian magical philosophy of long distance combat.
- Or maybe she's just gonna be a flat-chested teenager. Specially considering that there are other examples of flat-chested grown girls like Otto and Sein.
- Otto isn't really a good example, since it's never stated what hir gender actually is (and even hir sisters don't know).
- It's improbable that Scaglietti would put a clone into a boy's stomach, and the birth of the clone would be difficult. So, Otto is indeed female. She's also included in the all-female-beach-poster in ViVid.
- She wears a miniskirt once in ViVid, top that!
- Is that really an Adult/Teenager Mode? Furthermore, Rio has also a flat-chested Adult Mode.
- Otto isn't really a good example, since it's never stated what hir gender actually is (and even hir sisters don't know).
Though this series show Elemental Magic less often than others, there are mages capable of using one or two forms of elemental based spells (Fate & Erio's magic are lightning based, Signum uses a flaming sword etc...). Then there are Unison Devices, small magical beings capable of fusing with a mage and enhance their magic with a certain element. They can also use magic by themselves and is also shown to be capable of handling their own Device. N Ow since one of them is explicitly stated to be born from the linker core of a mage (Rein), this theory makes a lot of sense.
- Except canon stated that Rein's ice-based magic isn't an "Elemental Affinity" and the original Reinforce didn't displayed any preference for an element. It's a mistery how Unison Devices are created but if Rein Zwei is any indication they can born from the fuse of a linker core(if this is the real process or is a special event is left to guess). Still, their elemental powers seems to be only something that comes with some of them. So far the only two elements officially classified as MCA(Mana Conversion Affinity) are Lightning and Fire(the latter barely).
- It's not the original Reinforce's Linker core that makes Rein's magic lean towards Ice, It's Hayate's Linker core that possible gave Rein her elemental affinity since canon also states that Rein was born from Hayate's linker core.
- Reinforce Zwei was born from the fusion of Hayate's Linker Core with the original Reinforce's. And, as stated above, canon dismissed the idea of "ice" as an elemental affinity.
- The reason the Materials are able to create water purifiers and land restorers in the ending is because they can easily read the Genetic Memory "Legacy Ruins" written in the DNA of the people. (And even Levi is programmed to be proficient with technical knowledge, as her conversation with Fate in the game shows.)
- "Brave Duel" was created to store memories and images that didn't fit into the constructed setting. So if anyone had a dream about their magic powers or barrier jackets; it could be explained away by the card game.
- When Precia and Alicia fell into the Void Between the Worlds via the Jewel Seeds; their bodies dissolved and their minds were essentially locked into stasis in the Akashic Records. The Book of Darkness/Tome of the Purple Sky/Examia is a multidimensional entity that exists partly in this domain. When it created the Lotus-Eater Machine dream for Fate's last temptation, it actually pulled Alicia's mind into this. (Being in a coma to begin with, she was shielded from the initial entry trauma.) It really was her talking to Fate.
- During the "Material" incident in the PSP games, the Examia's scanning of everyone involved (how it created Materials) etched their existence in to the Akashic Records. (Rynith's data was in the original Jewel Seeds that Precia had; however the contract was not.) The Florian Sister's Time Travel; and the Professor's handling of the Time Machine (he had to teach the Sisters about it, which meant he at least operated the interface) meant their information was recorded as well.
- Moving U-D forward in time in the PSP game did not erase the Examia in the present timeline. The Examia exists throughout space-time, this is why the Book of Darkness could regenerate despite total destruction via Arc N Ciel. Moving U-D out of the present merely initialized the sentience required to operate. Without either U-D or Reinforce to use; the Examia found the most convenient sentience floating around the Akashic Records. Alicia's. It used a person's data as a core before, it did so again; making Alicia the new sentience controlling the core.
- However, this time, the "darkness" was gone as was the Defense Program. Hunting for a command to follow; it examined Alicia's memories and created a "happy life" for her and her mother; thus created a world filled with Pieces created from the data the Jewel Seeds, the Materials, and the Time Machine had collected. Precia's memories were modified in order to repair her; copies of Nanoha and company were created to give Alicia company. Everyone's memories were formatted to fit this "happy life." What was left over became the Collectible Card Game.
- Knowing Tsuzuki's inability to stick to a consistent English spelling, a Flip-Flop of God like this may very well happen.
- The problem will be the story of The Gears of Destiny, because it's forbidden to report Time Travel. And The Battle of Aces have only a few story routes that work canonically in the Portable continuity, Nanoha, Hayate, Chrono, Signum's being the most plausible with a few minor changes. The Dark Piece Incident happens in December, the U-D Incident three months later, while the epilogue of the movie happens two years after A's. I guess the story will be about...
- Regarding to this, it's very likely that the High Council and Regius would be cut out of the movie.
- Regius is an important character for the StrikerS story. Not only he's one of Scaglietti's sponsor, but also the target of Zest and Due. If Regius won't appear, Zest would lose his motivation, and Due would lose her last target and any opportunity to appear in the StrikerS story, not to mention her death scene, unless she would get a new one. The High Council mustn't appear in any movie, but maybe Regius' crimes were public, and he was "punished" by death anyway and didn't got a Karma Houdini like Graham.
- Nanoha vs Signum during the Combat Tactics Exhibition, which would prove how strong Nanoha became after her rehabilitation.
He is well aware the Hückebein have killed hundreds of people and believes one of them may have been involved in the destruction of the Vaizen Mines, but doesn't seem to bother in later chapters. This might be hinting that the virus has begun affecting his mind and already made him somewhat amoral in spite of Shamal providing treatment. In future chapters, it will get worse to where he will be put off duty due to it.
She has mostly used ordinary swords instead of a Divider, uses a book like Lily, and seems to be paired up with Veyron in flashbacks. To add to this, Veyron has a divider and doesn't have a means to react, yet Curren has a high opinion of him. Personally, I think Curren and Veyron are actually a Book/Gunblade duo that could react, but the only reasons we haven't seen it is because they lost that ability to preform it out incompatibility. In addition to this theory...
She wants Thoma, but seems to ignore any significance Lily has. While it mostly seems to be because of Lily being seen as "damaged" by the family, it can also been seen that Curren wants Thoma personally so she can react with him and make use of the "Zero Gene" she has been seeking. This will lead to her special ability "Force React".
If you pay attention to the chapters where the two groups were battling, her dialogue sounded very sincere compared to the other Hückebein, who came off as having ulterior motives. In reality, it's because she feels she has to come off as a cool older sibling to the younger Hückebein members, such as the possibility of Thoma joining. In Chapter 26, Sonica notes she has an "embarrassing secret" that she utilizes as blackmail. This "secret" will be the first bit of her backstory, in which the first people she killed was her own younger brother, who was dying to the virus. Long story short: Arnage is a Stepford Smiler and sees a person she loved in Thoma and hangs out with Stella mostly due to seeing her as a little sister she never had.
The reason he is acting friendly towards them and trying to disapprove of their behavior is because he is trying to grow in as a Morality Pet. Chapter 23, he actually managed to influence Cypha from killing Quinn, in which her excuse is that she was in a good mood that day. Unfortunately, he has no idea it's a mostly doomed endeavor given the situation.
- It looks more like a reverse example. Arnage didn't know her Teenage Mode, and Curren mentions that it's a long time since she's in that mode.
- Nanoha's Out of the Inferno scene inspired the makers to give Stern devilish treats like Nanoha herself.
- Stern got Signum's personality and fire powers, but Levi got her weapon finesse.
- Destruction is usually associated with fire. Nanoha was the most destructive of the three Aces next to Hayate, and Stern later got fire as a form of destruction.
- Due to an overdevelopment of Vita's Flammeschlag, the attack that caused the Out of the Inferno scene. Then, the fire powers became her main element besides stars.
- They are based of the arianote of Luciferion Breaker.
- This is unlikely, since Curren and Hades already met face to face and neither has shown any signs of recognition, even though he had a "date" with his daughter just a few chapters prior.
- Fortis, whose abilities have yet to be revealed.
- Stella, whose Reactor is the fortress. So, Wave-Motion Gun vs Cool Spaceship. Also, Nanoha has the tendency to fight children. And Stella looks really similar to Vivio.
- In that case, Vita could also have a rival in Stella. It's not the first time Vita would fight a spaceship. It also helps that both of them are lolis.
- Hades, the other Big Bad.
- Kana Hanazawa for Sieglinde Jeremiah. Seriously, there is a reason why fans call her Black★Rock Shooter. The main problem is Sieg's Kansai dialect.
- Kana Asumi for Fabia Crozelg. Asumi already voices Asteon, Isis and Yuri. It wouldn't hurt to voice another character in this franchise. Also, Fabia reminds me a lot of Yuri, even though they don't look alike or haven't the same character.
- Miyuki Sawashiro for Victoria Dahlgrün. Sawashiro already played some Ojous. And with the two above, we will get the whole BRS anime main cast in that season (Einhart aka Black Gold Saw, Rio aka Chariot).
- Aoi Yūki and Ai Nonaka will join the cast. Just because to complete the Puella Magi Holy Quintet. And Kana Asumi is there too (at least as Asteon).
- So, Emiri Katou, too.
- So, as a suggestion: Aoi Yūki as Chantez, Ai Nonaka as Harry, and Emiri Katou as Els.
- So, Emiri Katou, too.
- Kaori Mizuhashi for Olivie Sägebrecht. It wouldn't make sense if the original would get another seiyuu.
- Yui Horie will voice someone. Just to have another relationship with Yukari Tamura.
- Maybe Micaiah?
- So, who will voice him? Tetsuya Kakihara?
- She calls him even "shishou/master". Maybe because of respect. Or maybe something else.
- That much is pretty obvious. Fate is still Arf's master and even in her emotionally dead state at the time, she would have never allowed such excessive cruelty.